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该来个简短的了。
It's time for a quickie.
Podcast One 带来《Lady Gang》——好莱坞女生团体，现在是 Lady Gang 短讯环节。
Podcast one presents the lady gang, the Hollywood girl posse with lady gang quickie.
接下来是凯尔蒂·奈特、贝卡·托宾和杰克·范尼克。
Here's Keltie Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanick.
咱们赶紧开始吧。
Let's make this quick.
你好。
Hello.
你好。
Hello.
你好。
Hello.
欢迎收听《LadyGang 短讯》。
Welcome to LadyGang Quickie.
我是贝基
I am Becky here
还有杰克和凯尔蒂。
with Jack and Keltie.
你好。
Hello.
最近事情真多。
So much is going on.
我先得说一下。
I just need to, like, discuss first of all.
首先，真庆幸你们没让我去剪刘海，因为昨天我刚接到电话，E电视台要拍一组新照片，要做全新的品牌形象。
First of all, thank you guys for not letting me get bangs because I just got a call yesterday that they're doing a new photo show for E and they're like, we're doing new like branding and everything.
我真是松了口气。
I was like, thank God.
幸好没在拍照片前去剪刘海。
Didn't cut a bang before the photoshoot.
所以真的很感谢。
So thank you.
但我们得聊聊流行文化里的一件事。
But we need to talk about something that's happening in pop culture.
泰勒·斯威夫特的刘海。
Taylor Swift's bangs.
对。
Yes.
杰克，现场发回报道。
Jack, reporting live from the scene.
泰勒·斯威夫特的刘海到底怎么了？
What is happening with Taylor Swift's bangs?
首先，我也不清楚。
So number one, I don't know.
但她最近老在外面晃悠，和特拉维斯一起在纽约市到处逛。
But she has been out and about like her and Travis are just like bopping all over New York City.
我不明白这到底有什么意义。
I don't know what the what the point is of that.
当然，背后肯定有原因，谁知道呢？
Know, there's always a motive, who knows?
但不管怎样，每次她公开露面，刘海都好像越来越长了。
But anyways, every time she steps out in public, somehow her bangs are getting bigger.
越来越长了。
They're getting bigger.
也越来越浓密了。
They're getting fuller.
是假的刘海，贴上去的。
It's a clip on.
有时候它们
Sometimes they're
和她婚礼上的样子对不上。
not matching for her wedding.
哦，你是这么想的啊。
Oh, you think Yeah.
她是为了婚礼才让刘海自然长出来的。
She's growing them out for her wedding.
现在刘海长得挺尴尬的。
They're at an awkward length.
所以她现在用假刘海，就是想在摘掉刘海亮相的时候制造巨大反差，你肯定会想：等等，她怎么突然从有刘海变成没刘海了？
So right now she's doing clip ons because she wants to make a big impact when she comes out with her no bang look and you're like wait a second how did she magically go from bangs to no bangs?
这是你有内部消息，还是只是你的推测？
Is this do have insider info or is this your theory?
我可能认识去参加婚礼的人，所以大概知道发生了什么，但这跟刘海没关系。
I may or may not know somebody going to the wedding so I may or may not have an idea of what's happening but that has nothing to do with the bangs.
只是个推测而已。
With a theory.
这个推测挺有道理的，但我有点糊涂了。
I mean that's a really good theory but I'm kind of confused.
这就像是
It's like
或者她为什么不去试试看呢？
Or why don't she's you find experimenting.
那为什么
Well why
你干脆找一个合适的假刘海不就行了？毕竟这些假刘海都不一样。
don't you just find the one clip on bang that works because these are different clip ons.
每次看起来都不一样。
Every time they look different.
不是的，
No,
我觉得情况是这样的，
I think that what's happening okay.
如果真是假刘海的话，作为用假刘海的行家，你要是把它往后戴一点，看起来会更轻盈，因为发尾刚好扫到脸上。
If it is a clip on, I would say being a connoisseur of a clip on bang, if you put it farther back, they do look more wispy because the ends are hitting you.
如果你的假刘海戴得太靠前，又卷起来了，看起来就会更厚一些。
If by chance your clip on bang is a little too far forward and then they curl it up, it could look thicker.
我觉得大家困惑就在这儿：星期二她戴的是轻薄款，星期三就变成厚重款，接着又变回轻薄款。
Like I think that's where everyone's confused is because like on a Tuesday she'll come and she's got a wisp and on a Wednesday she's got a very heavy bang and then she's back to wisp.
我当时就在想，或者是不是
And I was like, or is
这真的是假刘海吗？因为最近这次的颜色根本对不上。
this for sure a clip on because the color in the most recent one, it's not even the right color.
这正是问题所在。
That's what
我就是这个意思。
I'm saying.
确实不一样。
It does.
而且发质看起来也不像她自己的头发。
It's like and it doesn't look like the same texture of her hair.
还有一个贴片刘海的女生。
And also a clip on bang girl.
如果我那么有名，我绝对不敢戴假刘海。
I would just be really scared to wear a clip on bang if I was that famous.
我也是。
Me too.
一阵风一吹，它肯定会被吹到特别难看的位置。
Like a way a gust would definitely come and blow it in a unfavorable position.
但如果这是真的，我真的很喜欢。
But I do love if this is true.
我喜欢她为了婚礼留出刘海，因为她那样看起来特别好看。
I love that she is growing up her bangs for the wedding because I think it's very she looks really good with like that Have
我们有见过她完全不戴刘海的样子吗？
we seen her without a bang at all?
从来都没有吗？
Ever?
是的。
Yeah.
我们刚认识她的时候，她没有刘海。
She didn't have bangs when we first met her.
很久都没有。
Not for a really
很长一段时间。
long time.
后来她在《Elle》杂志的拍摄中留了刘海，之后就再也没剪掉过。
Then she got bangs on the Elle magazine photoshoot and she like really never went back.
但我们不是讨论过吗？婚礼可不是尝试新发型的好时机。
But haven't we had like a conversation where your wedding is not the time to do something new with your hair?
不过我觉得，让刘海自然长出来，恰恰相反。
Well, but I think a growing out of a bang is like the opposite.
对。
Yeah.
我觉得是啊。
I feel like yeah.
对。
Yeah.
没错。
Yeah.
不过，如果那是个重大惊喜，
Well, won't
那确实会是个大惊喜。
be if that's the big reveal, that's gonna be a big reveal.
她那
How her
在婚礼上以不留刘海的造型亮相，
hair shows up to her wedding like with a no bang look.
简直像换了个人。
It's gonna be like a new woman.
我真想直接去把头发染了
I would love mean, go hair
看起来头发特别健康，而且像我这样有九英寸发根的人，真希望婚礼前能加点高光。
is looking very healthy and also, like as someone who has nine inches of roots, like, God put some highlights in that before the wedding.
我特别需要那种修饰脸型的高光，简直比出新专辑还迫切。
I need a face framing highlight like I need a new record.
明白了。
Okay.
等等，我有个问题。
So wait, now I have a question.
我们大概知道婚礼什么时候办吗？是不是在夏天？
Do we know like is there a general idea of when the wedding's gonna be the summer sometime, right?
是的，七月。
Yeah, it's July.
大家都在忙着准备了。
And people are getting like ish.
是的
Yeah.
好
Okay.
我听好几个渠道都这么说。
I've heard multiple sources.
我们觉得会有什么内幕内容吗，还是说会是
Do we think Are we going to get like insider content or is it gonna be
我觉得那种秘密的，肯定不会是赞达亚。
one I of those secret think it's gonna be very I don't think it's gonna be Zendaya.
我觉得她，他们就是管不住自己。
I think she's they they can't help themselves.
他们肯定会发点什么。
They're gonna post something.
是的
Yeah.
会登上……
Will it be on
《Vogue》的封面吗？
the cover of Vogue?
我不清楚。
I don't know.
但肯定会有什么动静。
But there'll be something.
好的。
Okay.
有意思。
Interesting.
我不清楚。
I don't know.
我完全不知道。
I have no idea.
我的意思是，他们根本不是直接飞去婚礼地点，而是包了私人飞机。
Speaking I of don't think that they show up to where they're going for the wedding and they're actually chartering a plane.
我是说，这纯粹是猜测。
Like I don't this is a speculation.
名人婚礼通常都是这样。
But this is what happens with celebrity weddings.
我觉得确实如此。
This does I feel
他们会被通知一个地点，等到了那儿，才会被转送到完全不同的地方。
like they're given a location and then when they get there they are going to be transported to somewhere totally different.
婚礼明明说在卡波，大家都以为在卡波，结果到了卡波，才被告知上大巴或接驳车，然后直接飞去意大利。
It's like the wedding is in Cabo, and everyone's like, The wedding's in Cabo, the wedding's in Cabo, and then you get to Cabo, and they're like, Okay, get on the van or the shuttle, and then they take you to a private airport, and they fly you to Italy.
谁干的这种事？
Who did that?
肯定是有人这么安排的。
Someone did that.
我不清楚。
I don't know.
总之。
Anyway.
好了。
Alright.
太聪明了。
Genius.
接下来要说的是库普怀孕了，各位。
Next up is Coop's pregnant, guys.
库普怀孕了，而且
Coop's pregnant and
亚历克斯·库珀。
Alex Cooper.
以前从来没人叫过她库普。
Nobody's ever called her Coop before.
亚历克斯·库珀怀孕了。
Alex Cooper's pregnant.
她这个周末刚宣布的。
She just announced it this weekend.
首先，恭喜她。
And first of all, congratulations to her.
这真是一个了不起的重大人生转折。
That is a fantastic monumental life change.
我真心觉得，怀孕这事没法像发新闻稿那样精心策划，但假如真能策划，她这简直就是教科书级别的生活转向。
I was truly, I don't think you can plan a pregnancy the way you plan a press release, but if you could, this is a master class in changing the direction of what's happening in your life.
事情一度糟透了。
Like, it was so bad.
真的糟糕透顶。
It was so bad.
而唯一能扭转这种负面局面的，就是这样的好事——而且她本来就已婚了。
And then the only thing that could really save this like real negativity was something like this and she's already married.
但其实，大家之前提到的那些负面情绪，并没有因为这件事就消散。
And it actually didn't save the negativity people brought up again.
我不知道你们还记不记得这件事。
Like, I don't know if you guys remember this.
你们还记得她和索菲亚当时狠狠怼那个《单身汉》节目的女孩的事吗？
Do you remember the story of like when her and Sofia really went in on the girl from The Bachelor?
那件事到底怎么回事？
What was that all about,
我其实也只是最近刷到一些TikTok视频才知道的，说的是《单身汉》里的劳伦和阿里。
I mean, I I only know from like seeing recent TikToks about it, but it was Lauren and Ari from The Bachelor.
他们俩是在《单身汉》里认识并在一起的。
They like got together on The Bachelor.
到现在他们还在一起。
They're still together.
那还是他们第一次怀孕。
And it was like their first pregnancy.
我的意思是，他们还真搞了个Instagram账号，专门给还没出生的孩子用。
I mean, they did, you know, they made an Instagram like for their unborn baby.
然后还老发帖，说肚子里的宝宝现在有芒果那么大之类的。
And then they were like posting about it, like in the womb being like, I'm I'm the size of a mango now.
我也干过这种事。
And I do that.
就是挺随性的吧。
It's the whatever.
他们这么做，确实挺符合千禧一代的风格。
It's very like millennial of them to do.
不过后来听说，亚历克斯和索菲亚在《Call Her Daddy》节目里，每期都搞个叫‘小Alessi’的环节，但最初好像只是拿这个开玩笑。
But then I guess Alex and Sofia, when they were together on Call Her Daddy, were like, like every show they would have like a segment about like baby Alessi, but I think that they started like just by making fun of it.
结果慢慢就变成一堆低俗又露骨的性暗示言论，真的越过界了。
And then I thought I think that they got to be doing these like really vulgar, like sexual comments about it, like really crossing a boundary in a line.
我本人根本没听过《Call Her Daddy》这个节目。
I obviously didn't listen to Call Her Daddy.
我从来没听过。
I've never listened to it.
但据说这节目
But, apparently it
相当冒犯，简直太离谱了。
was pretty offensive and like kind of fucked up.
让我直说吧。
So let me just say this.
如果你不想让人知道某件事，就选周五下午四点公布。
If you don't want people to know something, you announce it on a Friday at 4PM.
那时候大家都下班走了。
Everyone's gone home.
她是在那时候做的吗？
Is that when she did it?
不是，不是，不是。
No, no, no.
她是在那会儿发布的。
She did
周日当天或者周日晚上。
it on Sunday night or Sunday.
周日是那种你想制造话题、吸引关注时选的日子——我不是说这是内幕消息，但确实是个热门观点。
Sunday is the day that you announce things when you want to like publicity wise insider inform I mean, this is not insider information, but hot take.
周五下午四点以后，才是你发布离婚消息之类事情的时候。
Friday is like after four is when you announce your divorces, you know, something Or
就像在12月31号那样。
like like on December 31.
对。
Yes.
因为那时候大家都回家了。
And it's because everyone's gone home.
所以新闻杂志、《今日秀》、TMZ这些媒体的人都在过周末，只有值班的编辑在更新网站，除非有人去世或者出了特别严重的新闻，否则根本不会出现连续48小时的滚动报道，像《观点》和《早安美国》那种轮番讨论的情况。
So everyone from the news magazines, everyone from the Today Show, everyone from TMZ is on like weekend and all that's happening is like a weekend editor is there like updating websites if someone essentially dies or like horrible news, but there's not going to be like the incessant forty eight hour news cycle of like then on The View they're talking about it and Good Morning America, they're talking about it.
所以周末的时候这事就慢慢淡了，你选周五发布，就是希望到了周日，已经有新消息出来，成了更热门的头条。
Like, so it kinda dies over the weekend and what you hope is why announcing something on Friday is that by Sunday, something new has happened that is like a better top story.
对。
Yeah.
如果你选在周日发布，那显然是故意的，就是想让周一早上人人都在讨论这件事。
If you announce something on Sunday, it is on purpose because you want everyone to be talking about it on Monday morning.
当新闻编辑、网站编辑，还有《早安美国》和《观点》那些节目的编辑们翻看周末哪些话题最火时，最新鲜的新闻就是你怀孕了，一切顺利。
So like when your news editors and when the website editors and the editors of GMA and The View and whatever are going through what are the stories trending over the weekend, the freshest story is you're pregnant and everything's fine.
这时候没人再提你跟那个女孩过不去，或者你公司出了什么丑闻之类的事了。
And they're not now talking about you like going after this girl or what horrible things happen at your company or whatever.
这简直是一堂教科书级别的操作。
So it's it's a masterclass.
说实话，真该给她点个赞。
Honestly, give it to her.
作为反方观点。
Devil's advocate.
她不可能从一开始到现在就怀上并变得这么明显。
She could not have gotten pregnant and become this pregnant from when it all started.
我的意思是，
Like,
她当时怎么可能，是Alex Cooper还是Alex No，
she would've What, the Alex Cooper or the Alex No,
那个Alex女孩刚开始引起关注的时候，她其实已经怀孕了，那时候事情才刚变得热闹起来。
the Alex Girl started to really drum up, but it would have been she would have already been pregnant when things really started to get spicy.
不是，不是这样的。
No, no.
但那些TikTok视频，
With But she the TikToks.
就是最近那些TikTok视频，
Like with all the like the newest TikToks.
她怀孕不是为了躲公众的审视。
She didn't get pregnant to avoid the scrutiny of the public.
我觉得有意思的是，她是在一个月前的科切拉音乐节期间开始闹出这些事的。
Well, what I think is interesting is she started all of this drama over Coachella weekend, which was a month ago.
所以她一边怀孕，一边还搞了这么多事，
So all she was doing all this while she was pregnant and
我当时就想，她肯定是荷尔蒙失调了。
I was like, she's hormonal.
是啊，大概吧。
Yeah, I guess.
她就是说，
She's like,
我觉得她彻底崩溃了。
think she just lost it.
她真的撑不住了。
She just lost it.
而且她还说，谁在乎啊。
Well, was also like, get who cares.
这只是一种新的看法而已。
Like, it's just a new perspective.
大概是吧。
I guess so.
对。
Yeah.
关于他们婚姻不顺的说法，其实也说得通。
Well, goes the theories of them not doing well in their marriage.
我的意思是，也许他们确实过得不好。
I mean, I guess you could not be doing well.
贝卡·托宾，你知道多少？
Becca Tobin, how much
你知道多少？
do you know?
我刚查过。
I just did.
我只是说，据我们所知，他们还在一起。
I I am just saying they're staying together as far as we know.
如果你觉得你们的关系出了问题，不会特意发一张和丈夫并排展示孕肚的美照吧。
You don't post a beautiful picture of your pregnant belly and your husband next to you if you know I don't think
我觉得他一直就想结婚生子。
I think he's always wanted to be married and have children.
他们真想要孩子的时候，就是那种态度。
That is the way that when they really wants to have kids.
不管是前期的准备，还是他们一起做的那些事，看起来都挺认真的。
Whatever like up fronts or whatever that they went to together looked like
她一直在隐瞒怀孕的事。
she was hiding a pregnancy.
她整个孕期都在藏肚子。
She was hiding her bump the whole time.
她看起来特别不舒服。
She looked so uncomfortable.
两个人在一起。
Two together.
是啊，但他们摆拍时她却藏着孕肚。
Yeah but they were posing with her hiding a bump.
藏着孕肚。
Hiding the bump.
这种处境真够尴尬的。
That's an awkward situation to be in.
我觉得如果她得在孕期头三个月经历这场风暴，那真的太不幸了。
I also think like just as I think it's really unfortunate if she had to go through her first trimester with this shit storm.
对啊。
Yeah,
但她自己可是积极参与其中的。
but she was a very vocal participant of it.
到了四月倒是确实如此，但那时候她已经怀孕好几个月了。
Well eventually in April, but she's already, by that point she was already months and months pregnant.
所以她在那之前就已经在应对一大堆这种事了。
So she would have been dealing with a lot of this stuff leading up to it.
比如，厄尔点赞或转发了那个短视频。
Like, Earl liked or reposted whatever that TikTok was.
亚历克斯那时候已经进入孕早期了。
Alex was already in her first trimester.
在孕早期还要面对全网的人对你口诛笔伐，压力得多大啊，确实。
So to be in your first trimester and have the stress of every single person turning on you and talking shit about you on the Internet would be Yeah.
这真的很糟糕，尤其是如果你做的事根本没那么严重。
A really shitty thing, especially if the thing that you did is actually not that humongous of a deal.
我想吧，不过我们其实也不确定。
I guess, well, we don't know, though.
我觉得到现在为止。
Well I think by now
《名利场》那篇文章还没发布呢。
the Vanity Fair article is still coming out.
如果凯尔蒂·奈特和她与亚历克斯·库珀之间的事被写进了《名利场》那篇文章里，那我们就知道他们其实并没有
Well if Keltie Knight and what she went through with Alex Cooper is included in the Vanity Fair article we know that they No don't have a
不是的，不是的。
no no.
不是因为你这个人，而是因为发生了什么事。
Not because of who you are but because of what happened.
对。
Yeah.
不是。
No.
我没在里面。
I'm not in it.
我没在里面。
I'm not in it.
你没在里面？
You're not in it?
不是的。
Uh-uh.
我以为你刚才说你在里面呢。
I thought you said you were.
我确实接受了采访，不过算了。
I got interviewed for it but I'm Oh okay.
有更多合适的人选。
There's way better people.
我的意思是，听听这个。
No, I mean like the listen.
祝你好运。
Good luck to you.
咱们换个项目，说说约翰·特拉沃尔塔的贝雷帽吧。
Let's let's switch gears to John Travolta's beret.
拜托了。
Please.
因为我真的对这个特别感兴趣，请说吧。
Because that's what I'm I'm really interested Please.
我当时就想，杰克，
I was like, Jack,
你到底想聊点啥关于这个事的？
what do you want to talk about for allegedly?
然后她说，
And she goes,
约翰·特拉沃尔塔的贝雷帽。
John Travolta's beret.
那你就开始吧，雅克琳。
So take it away, Jacqueline.
我的意思是，这个
I mean, this
对我来说真是特别奇怪的情况。
is just such a bizarre circumstance to me.
他上周去了戛纳。
He was at Cannes last week.
他带着自己执导的首部电影去首映，女儿在里面主演，结果他一现身红毯，造型简直怪到不行。
He was premiering his directorial debut of a movie that his daughter is starring in and he shows up to the red carpet and he is sporting such a bizarre look.
他戴着一顶贝雷帽，一副眼镜，整个人看起来像换了张脸。
He was sporting a beret and a pair of spectacles and what I would say a brand new face.
他是不是做了面部拉皮？这副打扮，戴着眼镜、假鼻子，分明是想分散别人对他整容疤痕的注意。
It seems like he may have gotten a facelift and this is his disguise like wearing one of those glasses with the fake nose on it to try to distract from him having a facelift and having those scars.
不对，最奇怪的是他的胡子。
No, it's the beard that's weird.
他那胡子像是植的，假胡须似的。
Well, has like a fake beard, like a beard transplant.
这到底是
Is this
假胡子，还是
a fake beard or is it
这大概就是杰瑞德的想法。
just That's what like Jared thinks.
这胡子长度真怪。
It's a weird length
确实如此。
for sure.
太完美了，反而不对劲。
It is too perfect.
胡子得有胡子的样子才行。
Beards have to be like beardy.
这胡子像是被染过，还特意塑了形。
This beard is like, it's it's like dyed in the shape.
就像你去修眉毛，眉毛修得整整齐齐那样。
Like, you know, when you get your eyebrows done and your eyebrows
这胡子肯定染过色，这一点毫无疑问。
It's are probably definitely dyed, which
一看就是染过的。
makes For it seem like sure dyed.
肯定是染的。
For sure dyed.
所以啊，就是觉得怪。
So no, it's just weird.
现在他还戴上了好几顶贝雷帽。
And then now he's like sporting many berets.
是的。
Yeah.
不是只戴了一顶，他确实看起来特别棒。
No, this is new It wasn't just the one, but he does look amazing.
他的脸看起来特别有神。
Like his face looks amazing.
如果他真做了面部提升，那他都72岁了。
So if he did get a facelift, he's 72.
他看起来不错。
He looks.
这整容做得真好。
It was a really good facelift.
那顶帽子戴起来一点不违和。
Like it's no bad at the beret.
他说戴这顶帽子是因为他现在当导演了。
He's saying the beret is because he's now a director.
对。
Yes.
所以他想向老派导演致敬，还说每次看到自己的照片，几乎都记不起是哪部电影、哪个场合拍的。
And so he wanted to like do an homage to old school directors and then he said because I want to know when I see pictures of myself I can very rarely place like what movie, what thing, what whatever.
所以现在看到这些照片，他就能想起这是自己导演首秀的时刻。
So he's like so now when I see these pictures I'll be reminded of this date directorial debut and like this moment in time.
所以是这样。
So Yeah.
他现在是个古怪的老头了。
He's an eccentric old man at this point.
他简直是在扮演上世纪90年代的导演，我超喜欢这个风格。
He's like cosplaying a 19 director, which I'm very into.
确实如此。
Mean Yeah.
我太喜欢了。
I love it.
今年戛纳的穿搭简直乏善可陈，除了黛米·摩尔之外。
I mean, the fashion has been so boring at Cannes this year other than Demi Moore.
还好他带来了点亮点。
Like, thank God he gave us something.
我觉得挺可爱的。
Think it's cute.
我觉得特别讨喜。
I like think it's adorable.
我不确定。
I don't know.
也许他是个坏人。
Maybe he's a bad guy.
我不太确定。
I'm not sure.
我得好好说说山达基教，我觉得这里面有很多值得怀疑的地方。
I need to do Speaking well, Scientology, I think we can have a lot of question marks there.
出去吃饭会不会让你感到压力，比如吃完后身体不舒服的那种感觉？
Does going out for a meal make you stressed out, you know, because of how you might feel after the meal?
有了Fodzyme，你就能尽情享受最爱的食物，再也不用担心不适。
With Fodzyme, you can enjoy your favorite foods without the pain.
Fodzyme是一种无味的粉末，直接撒在食物上就行。
Fodzyme is a tasteless powder you sprinkle right onto your food.
它能帮助分解食物中的FODMAPs，这些成分难以消化，容易引起胀气、腹胀和疼痛。
It helps break down FODMAPs, the hard to digest components in food that can cause bloating, gas, and pain before they cause discomfort.
你可以把它想象成乳糖酶，只不过它是针对大蒜、洋葱、小麦、豆类、奶酪这些含FODMAP的常见食物的。
Think of it like lactate, but for garlic, onions, wheat, beans, cheese, and other common foods with FODMAPs.
它能快速融入食物，而且包装小巧便携，随身带着去哪儿都方便。
It mixes into your food fast, and it comes in portable packets you can take with you everywhere.
我跟你说，这真是我的新宠，因为我特别敏感。
Let me tell you, this is my new best friend because I am very sensitive.
出去吃饭的时候，要是吃完感觉胀气、不舒服，我根本享受不起来。
And when I go out to eat, I don't enjoy the feeling after if I am bloated, feeling icky.
结果整顿饭都让我后悔。
I just regret the meal altogether.
用了这个，我才能真正吃得开心。
This makes it so I can really enjoy myself.
每位顾客都能免费获得一位注册营养师的一对一咨询，帮你量身指导如何使用Fodzyme。
Every customer gets access to a free product consultation with a registered dietitian who can walk you through how to use Fodzyme for your specific needs.
另外，很多使用者反馈，用了Fodzyme之后，吃饭时更自信、更放松了。
Plus, many people report feeling more confident and relaxed around food after using Fodzyme.
现在，你和你的肠胃终于可以好好享受生活了。
So now you and your stomach can go live your best life.
我们非常高兴能与 Fodzyme 合作，只要你访问 icaneatagain.com/ladygang，首单立享七折优惠。
We're so excited to partner with Fodzyme and offer you 30% off your first order when you go to icaneatagain.com/ladygang.
记得去 icaneatagain.com/ladygang，首单享受七折优惠。
That's icaneatagain.com/ladygang for 30% off your first order.
终于，你可以无忧无虑地享用最爱的食物了。
Finally, you can enjoy your favorite foods without the pain.
直接访问 icaneatagain.com/ladygang 就行。
Just go to icaneatagain.com/ladygang.
LadyGang 由
LadyGang is brought
Progressive 保险公司倾情呈现。
to you by Progressive Insurance.
今天你选择点开这个播客。
You chose to hit play on this podcast today.
真是个明智的选择。
Very smart choice.
Progressive 很乐意帮大家做出明智的决定。
And Progressive loves to help people make smart choices.
所以他们推出了一款叫 Auto Quote Explorer 的工具。
That's why they offer a tool called Auto Quote Explorer.
你可以用它来对比 Progressive 的车险报价和其他公司的价格，这样能省下不少调研时间。
It allows you to compare your Progressive car insurance quote with rates from other companies, and that's gonna help you save time on research.
选到最适合你的报价，还能实实在在省钱。
And you can enjoy savings when you choose the best rate for you.
听完这期节目后，去 progressive.com 试试吧。
Give it a try after this episode at progressive.com.
Progressive 伤亡保险公司及其关联公司并非在所有州或情况下都提供服务。
Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates not available in all states or situations.
价格会根据您的购买方式有所不同。
Prices vary based on how you buy.
你是不是也觉得
Do you feel like a lot
很多蛋白粉喝起来都特别粉粉的，味道也很普通？
of protein powders are just really chalky and generic?
我今天特别想跟大家分享一款我最近超爱的。
I am excited to tell you about the one that I have been loving.
它成分很干净。
It's clean.
味道真不错。
Tastes great.
我们说的是 Clean Simple Eats。
We're talking about Clean Simple Eats.
我每天早上都会在咖啡里加香草蛋白粉。
I put the vanilla protein powder in my coffee every morning.
特别美味。
It is delicious.
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这就像早上起来的一点小享受，接下来我给你讲点科学知识。
It's like a little treat first thing in the morning, and I'm gonna give you a little science.
Clean Simple Eats 使用的是草饲乳清蛋白分离物。
Clean Simple Eats uses grass fed whey protein isolate.
品质很高，效果也很显著。
It's high quality and highly effective.
乳清蛋白分离物是一种完整蛋白质，含有全部氨基酸。
Whey protein isolate is a complete protein with a full amino acid profile.
那这到底意味着什么？
So what does that mean?
这意味着，每份提供的20克蛋白质，你的身体都能充分利用，帮助维持肌肉、减少馋嘴，促进恢复。
It means your body can utilize all 20 grams of protein per serving to support lean muscle, curb cravings, and aid recovery.
你可能担心乳糖的问题。
Maybe you're concerned about the lactose factor.
Clean Simple Eats 吸收快、乳糖含量低，还添加了消化酶，对肠胃很友好。
Clean Simple Eats is fast absorbing low lactose and made with digestive enzymes, making it easy on digestive.
而且不含任何人工色素、甜味剂或添加剂。
Plus, no artificial colors, sweeteners, or ingredients.
你大概也喜欢蛋白粉有几种不同的口味吧。
And you like a little variation with your protein options.
他们还推出了蛋白粉混合装。
They even have a protein powder variety pack.
你可以先试吃不同口味的小包装。
You can try individual servings of multiple flavors.
我就是这么做的。
This is what I did.
味道简直太棒了。
It is divine.
Clean Simple Eats 真正纯净，而且百分百美味。
Clean Simple Eats is undeniably clean and a 100% delicious.
去 cleansimpleeats.com 购买口感最好的蛋白粉吧。
Shop the best tasting protein powders at cleansimpleeats.com.
这个推荐给所有爱看剧的朋友。
This one's for all my TV lovers.
我的DirecTV娱乐套餐包含60多个频道，还有迪士尼、Hulu和HBO Max，全都打包在一起。
My entertainment from DirecTV gets you 60 plus channels and Disney plus Hulu and HBO Max all in one pack.
但关键是这样一件事。
But here's the thing.
有了这么多精彩的剧集，你肯定忍不住想跟人聊聊你最近看的节目。
With so much great TV in My Entertainment, you're gonna want to talk about everything you've been watching.
不过别忘了，朋友可能没你追得那么勤。
Just remember that your friends might not be as well watched as you.
别剧透，鼓励他们也订个My Entertainment套餐，每月只要34.99美元。
Don't be a spoiler and encourage them to get My Entertainment for just $34.99 a month.
去directtv.com/genre packs注册吧，现在就行动。
Go to directtv.com/genre packs and sign up today.
仅限新用户。
New customers only.
服务按月自动续订，除非您主动取消。
Service renews monthly unless canceled.
需要提供信用卡信息。
Credit card required.
应用程序相关条款适用。
Conditions apply to apps.
HBO Max基础版（含广告）将在DirecTV五天试用期结束后开始。
HBO Max basic with ads begins after DirecTV five day trial.
了解更多，请访问directv.com。
Learn more at directv.com.
具体限制条件请见说明。
Restrictions apply.
《The LadyGang》。
The LadyGang.
说到黛米·摩尔，我真为互联网感到骄傲，因为有人写了篇标题叫‘看看黛米·摩尔的气场’。
Speaking of Demi Moore, I am very proud of the Internet because someone had a headline saying check out Demi Moore's tone.
对。
Yes.
天啊，这些女性都一直在说，别再把那种手臂叫做紧致的手臂了。
Oh my All of these women have been like please stop referring to that as a toned arm.
那根本不是紧致的手臂。
That is not a toned arm.
我们不知道那到底是什么，但那绝对不该是追求的目标。
We don't know what it is but that's not that's not a goal to have.
我真的很想说，我不会去猜测任何人正在做什么，或者她的健康状况如何，我根本不清楚。
And I'm really like, I I'm not gonna speculate on anybody in what they're doing or what her health I don't know.
但关键是，我很高兴互联网上有人站出来说：不，不，不，别再用这种说法，好像拥有这种身材是什么值得向往的事。
But the fact of the matter is is I'm really happy with the Internet for saying, no, no, no, like let's not use that verbiage like it's something that's aspirational to be having.
是啊，而且这真的很离谱。
Yeah, well and it's like It's wild.
我的意思是，这背后当然有更深层的讨论，但现在红毯上一出现，又回到2000年代初那种瘦骨嶙峋、厌食症的状态，而媒体还把这种样子称作‘紧致’。
I mean there's obviously a bigger conversation to be had about that but it's like with all the red carpet and then now we're back to like early 2000s of like being emaciated anorexia, whatever, and then the way that news reporter, the news outlets are reporting on that as being toned.
这简直就是在重演2000年代初的那一套，我们又被操纵、被洗脑了，太离谱了。
And it's like, are we, we're being like manipulated and gaslit all over again, like it's the early 2000s and then it's just It's wild.
太荒谬了。
It's insane.
真是让人无语。
It's wild.
当时真的特别
It was really
凯尔蒂？
Keltie?
我脑子里想法一堆，之前一直憋着没说。
I have so many thoughts and I'm from once keeping them to myself.
为什么？
Why?
别藏着了，说吧。
Don't hold back.
我是真的站出来为一个现在人人都讨厌的女性说话了。
I mean I just like literally stood up for a woman that everybody hates right now.
这正是LadyGang的宗旨。
Like that's the point of LadyGang.
明白了。
Okay.
我对这个话题有太多感受和想法，因为我自己也经历过，只能说，谁陷入这种状况我都理解。
I really feel very I have so many feelings and thoughts about this topic because I myself have been I just would say like it's I don't blame anyone for getting caught up in it.
比如那些所谓的‘垮掉’，或者她现在在做什么，还有艾玛·斯通之类的——我可以列出三十个去年还胖一圈、今年突然瘦了整整三个码的女明星。
Like the demise or whatever she's doing or like whatever Emma Stone like, I mean, I could list 30 women that are three sizes smaller than they were last year.
尤其是在颁奖季期间。
I would say going through award season.
我想说这话的时候尽量谨慎一点。
I just wanna be thoughtful in how I say this.
所以刚才我才停顿了一下。
So that's why I was like pausing.
但就是会发生一些事情。
But there's something that happens.
我自己其实并不特别有身体自信，从小在这样的环境里长大，突然之间，我发现自己明明是健康正常的体型，可一抬头看周围，所有人都在瘦身，于是我也觉得，我得瘦下来。
And I know myself not being a particularly like strong person in the body confidence, like, oh, having grown up at answer and growing up in this world, like there was something really weird that happened where all of a sudden I was like my normal healthy size and you start looking around you and when everyone started doing all this stuff, it's like everyone shrunk and then it was like, oh, I have to shrink.
这真的特别奇怪，简直是个荒诞的潮流。
Like there was it's such a weird it really is like a weird bizarre trend.
我不太想说身体也能跟风，但就像你刚才说的，现在又回到二月了。
And I hate to say that bodies are trends, but like you just said back here, like we're back in this February.
这感觉就像，要么就别干，要么就干到底。
It's like, it feels like shit or get off the pot.
既然大家都这样亮相，那我也不知道该怎么办了。
Like, oh, well, if everyone is gonna show up and be this way, then like, I don't know.
这确实挺奇怪的，我不怪任何人陷进去，但我们自己早就深陷其中了。
It's such it's a weird, like, I don't blame anyone for getting wrapped up in it, but we are absolutely wrapped up in it
没错。
for sure.
是的。
Yeah.
就像棒球里的兴奋剂问题。
It's like juicing in baseball.
你要是赢不了他们，那就加入他们吧。
It's like if if you can't beat them, join them.
如果大家都用类固醇，那你自己也扎几针也无所谓了。
If everyone's using steroids, you might as well be jabbing yourself too maybe.
是的。
Yeah.
所以我理解，但我也在想，咱们是不是也该看看那些没跟着这么做的其他人。
So it's like, I get it, but then I also am like, but let's all look at the people who are not still.
是的。
Yeah.
我觉得媒体该重新把聚光灯打在那些真正健康的身体上。
Like, I think the media's job is to start putting spotlights on really healthy looking bodies again.
是的。
Yeah.
而且呢，
And like,
真的要大力庆祝，搞得特别热闹，甚至有点过头了。
really celebrating, going crazy, like overcompensating.
别在任何平台上连续放45张同一个瘦骨嶙峋的女人的照片。
And don't put 45 pictures of the same emaciated woman on whatever it is.
这得是大家共同的决定才行。
It's like it's a it's it has to be like a collective decision Yeah.
去赞美那些不再只有四公斤重的身体。
To celebrate the bodies that are not like four pounds anymore.
挺奇怪的，比如我们报道Met Gala的时候，芭蕾舞者米丝蒂·科普兰是红毯上身材最丰满的人。
It's just so strange when like we were covering Met Gala and Misty Copeland, the ballerina was like the curviest person on the red carpet.
你都会忍不住说：天哪。
Like you're like Oh my god.
这女士身高一米六，体重才九十斤。
This woman is five three and she's about ninety pounds.
她本人真的特别瘦小。
Like, she is tiny in real life.
我当时真的很难理解，一直在琢磨这事，还去做了不少心理辅导。
Like, it was just it's such a weird I'm like actually wrapping my head around it and doing a lot of therapy.
所以我才停了下来，因为实在不知道该怎么形容那种感觉。
That's why like I paused because I just like, I don't even know how to describe the feeling of it.
这情况太奇怪了，我也同意，贝卡，我看到那些评论了，那些礼服确实美，但我就是……
Like it's just, it's like the most up situation and I agree like I saw those comments too, Becca, and I was I love the dresses and like I just
她的风格和整体造型看着都让人觉得压抑，但……
She looks like her her style or fashion, all of it's crushing but
这事儿真的挺怪异的。
It's just such a weird thing.
社会很容易就重新接受这种体型，看着这些名人不仅越来越瘦，连脸都变了样，感觉我们整个审美都扭曲了。
It's so easy for a society to slip back into normalizing that look and to looking at these celebs who not only get smaller but their faces completely change and it's like we're all warped.
我们每个人其实都有身材焦虑的问题。
Like, we obviously all have our own body image issues.
我每天都在跟自己的这种想法作斗争。
Like I constantly fight mine.
你还会看到有些人一下子瘦了十个码数。
And it's like, you also see people getting 10 sizes smaller.
就算你自己已经够瘦了，还是会忍不住想：我能不能再瘦一点？
And even as a small person, you're like, well, could I get a little bit like looking at other people?
但你得不断跟自己较劲，才能保持心理健康。
And then it's like, have to fight that in your own mind just to like, stay sane.
不过说回来，真的很容易不知不觉就又掉进这种思维里，大家还说：你看她多漂亮，脸多精致。
But anyways, it's just so easy to like, kind of get slipped back into that and people being like, they look so look how beautiful their face looks.
可实际上，人家都瘦得面颊凹陷，像十岁小孩一样。
It's like people are looking gaunt and 10 years old.
他们都
They all
看起来老多了。
look old.
被误导了。
Tricked.
她们看起来真的好老。
They look so old.
简直像老奶奶一样。
Like old ladies.
真的就像奥利维亚· Wilde 那样。
Literally like Olivia Wilde.
我是说，我本来不喜欢挑女性的毛病，但这次真的不行。
I mean, is we're like, I hate picking apart women, but like No.
但那也太离谱了。
But that was crazy.
她从二十多岁刚入行起，就一直被认为是最美的人之一。
She was she is one of the most arguably beautiful people on Like, the from the moment she started in this business in her twenties or whatever.
她真的太美了。
She's so gorgeous.
我猜她是今年要去参加大都会慈善晚宴，心里有个目标——不管她是怎么瘦下来的，反正她确实瘦了。
My assumption is she was going to the Met Gala this year and she had a goal in a way she wanted to look whether she I don't know how she lost the weight, but to she lost weight, period.
我们来猜猜看。
We're gonna guess.
我们来猜猜看。
We're gonna guess.
你看她的脸，明明以前是那么充满活力、美丽又光彩照人，现在却瘦得像街上一个干瘪的老太太，真的就是个瘦骨嶙峋的老太太。
Like her face, I'm like, you went from being one of the most full of life, gorgeous, glowing humans to looking like just a skinny old lady walking down the street, like just a skinny old lady.
但接着又有人说，她看起来简直太棒了。
But then and then it's like, but then people are like, they look so amazing.
然后你就被强行灌输这种观点。
And then you get this shoved down your throat.
他们看起来太棒了。
Like, they look amazing.
他们看起来真棒。
They look amazing.
看看他们多精神。
Look how great they look.
但这就很奇怪了。
But it's like, it's, it's crazy.
这简直是在对女性进行集体洗脑。
Like it's like mass manipulation to women.
你说你明明知道不对，可又忍不住被这些画面不断冲击，搞得你开始动摇。
And it's like, it's such a mind because you know better, but then you don't because it's getting shoved in your face so much.
最荒谬的就是，你看看几年前的人，那么多人都健康有活力，可现在却告诉我们，这种样子才叫好看。
Like that's the craziest thing that's happening where it's like, you look at people from a few years ago and so many people looked so healthy and vibrant and then it's, but now we're being told now that this looks good.
是啊。
Yeah.
哪里
Where
这真的太离谱了。
it's, it's just so crazy.
我想不出还有谁看起来是正常的，我真的不知道还有谁是这样的。
I can't think of anybody, I don't know about I'm like, who looks normal still?
我也不清楚了。
I don't even know.
那个女孩，
The girl,
我跟你说，
I will tell you,
那个女孩，《穿普拉达的恶魔》里的助理，叫什么来着？
will tell you, the girl, Devil Wears Prada, the assistant, what's her name?
她是今年新来的。
She's new this year.
像新来的演员？
Like a new actor?
我得说，我真的很喜欢希拉里·达夫最近的新风格。
I will say I really do love what Hillary Duffs her like new thing.
她现在更强势了，而不是更娇小了。
It's like stronger, not smaller thing.
她明显在往坚强的方向发展。
She's like really leaning into like being strong.
她确实瘦了不少。
She has shrunk.
她真的瘦了很多。
She has shrunk.
是吗？
Has she?
她现在特别小巧。
She's pretty tiny.
对。
Yeah.
但问题是
But the thing is
她看起来真的很好。
that She like looks great.
我只是说，网上很多人对此很不满。
I'm just saying she's still that's another thing that people on the internet are like pissed about.
他们说，没错。
They're like, let's yeah.
强壮不等于瘦弱。
Stronger is not skinny.
因为她本来就瘦。
Cause she's already small.
她本来就是个娇小的人。
She's like a small person.
而且她确实没有瘦到脱相。
And yes, she's not emaciated.
她看起来很棒。
She looks wonderful.
我可不是在挑刺。
I'm not hating on it.
但问题是，现在好莱坞里，还没人能代表那些没减掉体脂比例的人。
But it's like there's still no example of anybody who has not lost a percentage of their body weight that is representing what Hollywood looks like right now.
是的。
Yeah.
确实如此。
It's so true.
就是说啊。
It's just
我想不出有谁。
why I can't think of anybody,
比如奥卡菲娜和西蒙妮·阿什利。
like from Oh, carpet and it's Simone Ashley.
我不认识这个人。
I don't know who that is.
对，你认识这个女孩。
Yeah, you know this girl.
她非常漂亮。
She's very beautiful.
你看过吗
Did you
《魔鬼玫瑰·普拉达》？
see Devil Rose Prada?
她在《布里奇顿》里演过，长得真美。
She's in Bridgerton She's beautiful.
她太迷人了。
She's gorgeous.
我也没看过《布里奇顿》。
I also did not see Bridgerton either.
好吧，不管怎样。
Okay, well, anyway.
总之，事情已经发生了，我知道作为媒体，我在这事里扮演了很负面的角色，所以我正在努力想清楚我们该怎么解决，该做点什么，到底该怎么做。
Anyway, it's up and I know that I play a very dark part in this as a media, so I'm you know, wrapping my head around how we fix it, what we do, like, what big.
我不知道。
I don't know.
咱们换個話題吧，最后再聊一件事儿，哈里·斯泰尔斯现在麻烦大了，你们知道吗？
Can we just like, can I switch gears to something, one last thing I wanna discuss, which is Harry Styles is in big trouble, guys?
我知道。
I know.
为什么？
Why?
我不清楚发生了什么。
I don't know what's happening.
到底出什么事了？
What's going on?
好吧。
Okay.
杰克，给我们详细说说。
Jack, give us the whole rundown.
简单说，他开始了全球巡演。
Well, so basically, he started his world tour.
他搞了规模巨大的驻场演出。
Like, he's doing these massive residencies.
在麦迪逊广场花园连演十场。
Like, he's playing ten nights at Madison Square Garden.
他搞了这么多场，大家都在议论。
Like, he's doing all of these, like, and people are thinking about it.
这简直是继泰勒的巡演之后最大的现象。
It's like the next big thing that's come since Taylor Eras.
对。
Yeah.
没错。
Yes.
首先，他一开始就被卷入争议，因为作为艺人，你本来可以选择是否参与Live Nation和Ticketmaster的票价炒作这套操作。
So number one, he started getting in trouble in the beginning because I think as an artist, you can opt in to like, be part of the price gouging Live Nation Ticketmaster scam or not.
但他选择了参与，因为这样卖票能赚更多钱。
And he opted in because he makes more money by doing that by selling.
这种叫动态定价，根据需求涨票价。
I think it was called dynamic pricing tickets where like the by demand, they cost more.
原本300美元的票，现在涨到3000美元，所以大家特别不满——因为地板区的座位反而只要3美元。
Tickets that would cost $300 are now $3,000 So we got in a lot of trouble about that because the floor seats are like $3.
巡演一开始，人们去阿姆斯特丹的第一场演出，就出了不少问题。
The tour starts, people go to the first concert in Amsterdam, and there's a lot of things that happened.
其中一个问题是，那些最贵的地板座位，因为舞台设计的关系，他整个舞台就像个田径场。
One of the things are all of the floor seats that cost the most amount of money, the way that the stage setup is, he basically has like a huge track and field situation.
他的舞台就是这么大。
That's his whole stage.
那儿有个巨大的方形区域，地上画着好几条线。
There's like, it's a massive square with different lines on it.
简直就像在玩马里奥赛车。
Basically like you're playing a game of Mario Kart.
就像你在玩马里奥赛车一样。
Like you're at the Mario Kart.
对。
Yeah.
车子往下冲，然后又
Like goes down and then it
往上冲，接着再往下，路上还有好几个小坡。
goes up and it goes down and there's humps.
可惜的是，这些地板座位正好在坡道上升的那一侧。
But unfortunately, these floor seats are on the side where it goes up.
所以你根本什么都看不到。
So you literally can't see anything.
整个视野都被挡住了，因为舞台抬高了整整六米。
The whole view is obstructed because the stage goes up 20 feet.
你唯一能看见他的时候，就是他跑到了你身边那一小块舞台上，其他地方什么都看不到。
So the only time you will ever see him is if he's running on your little part of the stage right by you and you can't see anything else.
这真是最让人失望的地方。
So that's the biggest thing that's happened.
而且很多人都说，这场演出简直太差了。
And then also people are just saying like the show kind of sucks.
他只唱了二十首歌。
He only plays 20 songs.
除了那个怪异的马里奥赛车舞台，根本没什么其他制作效果。
There's no like production other than that weird Mario Kart stage.
他带着两个舞者，就在舞台上到处跑来跑去，就这么简单。
He has two dancers with him and he basically just runs around the stage and that's it.
根本没什么舞台制作。
There's no production.
啥都没有。
There's no nothing.
而且他的服装让我觉得挺刺眼的。
And then his outfits are pretty offensive to me.
我不太想翻出这个来说。
I hate to pull this up.
嗯，这个——
Well, this
现在他就是这个风格。
is his style now.
你希望他按套路来。
Like you want him in sequence.
他根本没按套路走。
He's not doing sequence.
他这是在给我们还个托宾。
He'd he's giving us back a Tobin.
他给我们一件西装外套。
He's giving us a blazer.
他给我们一条裤子。
He's giving us a trouser.
不，他穿得像个幼儿园老师，还穿着……
No, he's giving us like kindergarten teacher that's wearing a
他就是这种搞怪风格。
wacky Yeah.
他系着一条特别花哨的领带，就像这个人一样。
He's like wacky tie like this guy.
而且他还穿了我们球队的颜色。
And then it's like he's actually wearing our colors.
你们有没有发现，我们现在简直像哈里·斯泰尔斯。
You guys like we are Harry Styles right now.
天哪。
My god.
他穿着一件亮蓝色的西装，看起来像是从戏服店买来的，里面配了件明黄色的衬衫，系着一条亮绿色的领带，外面还套了件红色毛衣。
He's wearing like a bright blue blazer that looks like it's from a costume store, a bright yellow shirt with a bright green tie and a red sweater over it.
所以呢，我觉得他这种穿搭风格挺特别的，说实话，我从来不是哈利·斯泰尔斯的粉丝。
So it's kind of like people I think that his like big listen, I was never a Harry Styles fan.
真的不太能理解。
Don't really
他上一轮巡演太棒了。
understand His last tour was incredible.
那场演出是我看过最出色的演出之一，我特别喜欢他。
It was one of the best shows I saw and I love him.
真的吗？
Really?
我会去看看的。
I will
你说他这到底是怎么想的？
say what do you think is going on?
因为大家都觉得，他好像根本没用心。
Because people are just like, it seems like his heart isn't in it.
感觉他根本就不在乎。
It seems like he doesn't care.
那些铁粉看完演出后也是这么说的。
Like that's what his super fans are saying after going to the show.
你觉得凯尔蒂这是怎么了？
What do you think Keltie is going on?
我有点好莱坞圈内的消息。
So I little Hollywood insider.
我觉得，专辑还没出就搞世界巡演，这可不是什么好兆头。
I think it's always a very bad sign when someone puts up a world tour before an album is out.
他有新专辑吗？
Oh, does he have
有新专辑？
a new album?
哦，他确实有。
Oh, he does.
通常情况下，比如奥利维亚·迪恩，都是先发专辑，大家疯了一样追捧，然后两个月后才宣布巡演。
So normally what happens is like you put the album like Olivia Dean, you put out the album, everyone goes crazy for it, and then like two months later, you're like, and now I'm going on tour.
我一看到巡演票在专辑发布前就开卖，就知道不对劲了，这说明专辑肯定没那么出色。
I knew there was trouble in paradise when the tour went on sale before the album because I was like, oh, that means the album is Not that good.
有点可疑。
Questionable.
也可能是主办方和团队心里没底，不确定大家会不会真喜欢。
Or maybe not the promoters and the team is like, oh, we don't know if like people are gonna really like it.
不管专辑本身质量如何，它可能就是个商业上没把握的作品。
Like, regardless of if it's a good album or not, it may not be a commercial album.
第一支单曲出来后，反响平平，很快就淡出了。
And then the single came out and it the first single kinda came and went.
第二支单曲出来，也是悄无声息。
The second single came and went.
所以现在的情况是，他推出了新的巡演和新的音乐世界，但大家真正想沉浸的，还是他上两张专辑的世界。
And so what is happening is he sold this new tour, this new world, but the world people wanna live in is the last two records.
他们根本不想进入这个所谓的全新世界。
They actually don't wanna live in this whatever this new world is.
这个新世界充满了合成器音效。
And the new world is very synthy.
风格很像Coldplay，但不是早期那种，是后期的。
It's very like cold play ish, like not early cold play.
就是那种后期的Coldplay风格。
It's like later cold play like that.
我觉得问题其实是，大家现在手头都紧。
So I think the issue is like people are broke.
他们攒了好久的钱，就为了去看哈里·斯泰尔斯的演唱会，还期待着舞台上有一整支乐队。
They saved up forever to go to the Harry Styles concert and they're expecting the last show he had a band on stage.
结果他只是坐着，跟台下的每个人聊天。
He sat, he talked to everyone in the audience.
他把这弄成了一个盛大的时刻。
He made it like a big moment.
不幸的是，泰勒·斯威夫特已经把标准抬得太高了，现在没人敢再做纯粹的圈钱演出。
And like unfortunately Taylor Swift has in a great way up the bar where you can't just do a money grab anymore.
我敢肯定那个舞台造价不菲，但说实话，确实如此。
Like I'm sure that stage was so expensive, but like Oh, yeah.
像在温布利球场、在麦迪逊广场花园连演十场，这种级别的制作成本有多高。
The production value of like what it takes to do ten nights at Wembley, ten nights at Morrison Square Garden.
你得拿出每场三百万美元的制作水准才行。
You need to be putting on a $3,000,000 night show.
对啊。
Yeah.
这包含的内容可太多了。
And that includes a lot.
没错。
And like Mhmm.
现在大家都这么做了。
You know, are now doing that.
连麦迪逊·比尔都在用回声效果，表演《九支舞》。
Even Madison Beer is playing the echo and doing Nine Dances.
你是说
You
对吧
know what
是啊
I mean?
这可是有人评论过的。
That was one of the comments.
他们说，我去看了麦迪逊·比尔的演出，她的制作投入比哈里·斯泰尔斯还多。
They're like, I went to go see Madison Beer and she put way more into her production than Harry Styles did.
可她明明是个小众艺人啊。
And she's like a small artist.
演唱会请两个舞者，这太离谱了。
Two dancers for an arena tour is a joke.
就两个。
Two.
他还穿着那种怪里怪气的，像幼儿园老师一样的衣服。
And then also dressed in his weird like kindergarten teacher outfits.
我觉得这实在有点奇怪。
Like it's it's so bizarre to me.
而且他可能根本没用心。
And his heart may not be in it.
我的意思是，你看啊，
Like, I mean, there's
抱歉，别人说的是，他每次都说同样一套话。
a sorry, that's what other people are saying to their like, he did the same like speech that he does.
这根本就是背好的台词，每句话都死板得像排练过一样，一点即兴都没有。
It's like this is the rehearsed speech where it's like each and every like, blah blah There is no like ad lib.
这明显就是照搬复制，但更值得讨论的是，要是换成女性艺人，比如泰勒·斯威夫特或者莎碧娜·卡彭特这么搞巡演，大家肯定觉得根本没法接受，可换成男性，大家就觉得没什么大不了的。
It was definitely like a copy paste where and I think the bigger conversation is kind of like what's going on with sort of like the Justin Bieber Coachella performance where it's like if a woman did this, like if if Taylor Swift came out and this was her tour, if Sabrina Carpenter came out and this was her, if anybody did this, it would be unacceptable for a woman to do.
但对男人来说，大家就觉得这很正常。
But for a man, it's just like, okay, that's fine.
你
You
我真的很喜欢哈里·斯泰尔斯，我希望他能赢，我真的这么想。
know, so I really like Harry Styles and I want him to win and I do.
我算得上是他的铁粉。
I I would consider myself a big fan.
我觉得他得做些调整才行。
I think he's gonna have to make some changes before.
你觉得他是不是
Do you think he's
被钱宁·塔图姆欺负得有点懵，心思根本不在演出上？
just getting bullied by Channing Tatum and he's just like his head's in another place?
等等，为什么提到钱宁·塔图姆？
Wait, why with Channing Tatum?
因为佐伊，就是佐伊。
Because Zo, Zo or Zoey Zoey.
她才是他的对象。
Is to be his Yeah.
哦，你觉得他……我不太确定。
Oh, you think he I don't know.
你觉得他……
You think The he's
克里斯·奈特总跟我说，想一直保持巅峰根本不可能。
thing that Chris Knight always says to me is that, like, it is impossible to stay on top.
他说，你这一辈子只能有一次成为像切片面包一样革命性的人物。
He like, you can only be the greatest thing since sliced bread one time in your career.
哈里之前经历了一场巨大的转折，那场巡演规模空前，特别精彩，他还请了莎妮娅·特温出嘉宾，在科切拉音乐节上穿得闪闪发亮。
And Harry had such a big reckoning and that tour was so massive and so fun and him bringing out Shania Twain and his Coachella and the sequins.
那真是个大场面，说实话，我知道这根本不可能发生，但他本该做点不一样的事，彻底换个风格。
Like, it was such a big moment that it's like, what would have been cool, I know it would have never happened, but like he should have done something, he should have just gone like completely different.
他本该搞个像麦迪逊广场花园的《哈利·原声演唱会》之类的活动，你知道的。
He should have done like, you know, Madison Square Garden, Harry Unplugged or whatever it is.
这还不够出人意料，确实没什么突破，简直就像原地踏步。
It's not a big enough, yeah, it's not a big enough departure and it's almost just like this.
这感觉更像倒退，好像他最初就是这种风格，后来才找到自己，变成了另一个样子。
It seems more like a regression where like maybe this is the vibe that he was in the beginning and then he like found himself and became this other thing.
这真的很难。
It's really hard.
那泰勒·斯威夫特接下来该怎么做？
Like tail what does Taylor Swift do now?
如果她下一场巡演不是四个小时，那真的就太难了。
Like if her next tour isn't four hours long and like it's just I mean the this it's very difficult.
所以哈利，你唯一能让我原谅你的办法，就是给我看你的私照。
So Harry, well, the only thing that will let me forgive you is if you show me the nudes.
你就真有私照？
Just you have nudes?
我是说，贾斯汀·汀布莱克，你知道吧，他的发展轨迹肯定差不了多少。
I mean, Justin Timberlake, know, I bet his trajectory was quite similar.
你同期单飞， solo 事业一炮而红，直接进入《未来性爱》那种风格。
You leave in sync, you go on your solo career, you explode into the Future sex love sounds.
大家都纷纷跟进，但接着就会不可避免地下滑，就像双胞胎一样，然后你开始搞他那些小动作。
So everybody's coming in, but then it's like you it's an inevitable dip like a twin and also And then you're doing his little
就是贾斯汀·汀布莱克跳的那个扭胯舞。
tootsie dance that Justin Timberlake did.
你还记得那个吗？
Remember that one?
对啊。
Yeah.
你那时候穿一身卡其色西装。
Like, you're in a ma'am khaki.
你穿着卡其色裤子。
You're in a khaki.
对。
Yeah.
给我们看看穿卡其色裤子的男士们，
Give us our men in a khaki,
你知道的，跳个小舞。
you know, doing a little dance.
我们想看你脱掉一切。
Want you stripped down.
我们想要你拿出一贯给我们的东西，是的。
We want you to give us what we've always gotten from you, Yeah.
就是亮片喇叭裤、深V领，还有那种又怪又性感的风格。
Which is bell sequin bell bottoms and a deep cut v and like weird and sexual.
还有那件羽毛夹克。
And that feather jacket.
对。
Yeah.
给我们一条羽毛围巾吧。
Give us like a give me a boa.
他就像一块冰。
And it's like he's ice.
我觉得他是在试图模仿那种感觉，就像是
It's like I think he's trying to like channel these like it's like
八十年代的那种风格。
eighties kind of.
但感觉挺沉闷的。
Well, it's like somber.
我觉得那声音听起来就像是
I feel like the sound like that like it's
有点沉闷。
kind of Somber.
好点了。
Better.
不错。
Good.
不是。
No.
我知道。
I know.
但那种音乐所处的世界，说实话，我也不太清楚它到底属于哪种氛围。
But that's like the world that the music is living in is it's like not really I don't know what that does live.
你懂我的意思吧？
You know what I mean?
音乐跳起来特别带感，但现场体验到底是什么样，我也说不上来。
Like, it's so fun to dance to, but I don't know what that experience is live.
问题就在这儿，全是电子合成音的时候，就像在看伊比沙岛上的DJ表演，你非得有点儿感觉才行。
That's the thing is that when you don't have like when it's all synth, it's like kind of watching a DJ and Ibiza, like you need to be on a drug.
你知道吗？这正是它厉害的地方。
You know what I And that's what makes it great.
所以你需要舞台布置、灯光效果、烟火、舞者，还有一支乐队，而不是就你一个人在那儿。
But that's why you need like stage setup and you need production and you need pyro and you need dancers and a band where it's like, it's just you.
就像他那样。
It's like him.
他看起来就像是，我猜他在这次巡演前跑过很多场马拉松。
It looks like he's just like, and I guess he ran a lot of marathons before this tour.
真的，我说的是真的。
And it's like, that's it's just I'm not kidding.
就是。
It's
他就是一直在台上跑来跑去，没错，但这对我来说没什么了不起的。
him It's just running around on like it's yeah, but that's not impressive to me.
没人要求我们这样，也没人指望
Nobody's asking us and that's Nobody
他们可能希望你在舞台上到处跑。
wants probably you to run around the stage.
他们来看你，可不是为了看你跑马拉松。
That's not what they're coming to watch you do the marathon.
泰勒也不会问我们她婚礼上该梳什么发型。
Taylor's not asking us about her, what her hairstyle should be for a wedding.
约翰·特拉沃尔塔也不会在出场前跑来问我们该戴什么帽子。
John Travolta is not running the beret by us before he comes.
我支持库珀，但他不是。
I'm supporting Cooper is not
没人来问我该怎么从这事儿里翻身，哈里也没来问过我巡演该怎么做。
asking my advice on how to come back from this and, you know, Harry is not asking me what the tour should be.
我们本来可以替你们把一切都安排好的。
We could have figured it out for you guys.
我全力支持泰勒正在做的一切。
I'm supporting Taylor's whole thing she's doing.
说实话，刘海确实还可以更好一点。
Granted, the bangs could be better.
我是真希望这事儿赶紧发生。
Like, I wish it was going on
现在就该让泰勒自己来定。
to type Taylor right now.
不。
No.
我简直太喜欢她了。
Obsessed with her.
如果真像有人说的那样，她会在婚礼当天露面，而且不带刘海，那我简直太期待了。
Loving the if the theory is that she's gonna come out wedding day, no bang, like, I'm so
哦，我觉得这主意太棒了。
Oh, I think that's genius.
真是绝了。
It's genius.
要是真那样，互联网得炸了。
If that would break the Internet.
她现在的穿搭简直太有魅力了。
And her style is so sexy right now.
她之前去佛罗里达的商场，穿了条小吊带，时不时又套件那种乱七八糟的衬衫，就像我那天在《娱乐 Tonight》刷 TikTok 时看到的，穿了件格子衬衫。
She was in this like Florida mall, like little slip dress, like, and then every once in a while, and then she wore that like bad dress shirt with the thing like Something in style like the day I was Tik Toking on Entertainment Tonight in like a plaid like dress shirt.
那样子真不怎么样。
It's like not cute.
但其他时候她又美得不行，我就想，这风格真是……
The other But things have been so sexy and I'm like, oh, this is like
那咱们就等着看吧。
I guess we'll see.
我挺期待的。
I'm very
我很好奇，每次她去伦敦，到底是谁在给她设计婚纱？
I'm interested seeing seeing every time she goes to London, who's making this wedding dress?
是啊。
Oh, yeah.
他们快到了。
They're coming.
我猜会是
I bet it'll
什么挺酷的人，比如丹尼尔·弗兰克尔之类的。
be something cool like Daniel Frankel or something like that.
我打赌
Like, I bet
她？我不这么认为。
she I don't think so.
不会。
No.
我好奇她那晚会换几套衣服。
I wonder how many she'll wear that night.
希望是六件。
Six, I hope.
我不确定。
I don't know.
不管怎样。
Anyway.
感觉好多啊。
Seems like a lot.
好了，各位。
Alright, guys.
我们生活中还有别的事要做，不能光抱怨别人，自己却什么也不干。
Well, we have things to do in our lives other than complain about other people while we do nothing.
这挺有意思的。
This was fun.
爱你们。
Love you.
下周二见。
See you next Tuesday.
不是。
Nope.
我们到了。
We're here
要待久一点。
for a longer time.
好好玩一玩。
For a good time.
夹子一夹，时间就到。
Clip on bang time.
《LadyGang》由凯尔蒂·奈特、贝克特·欧文和杰克·范尼克主持并制作，社交媒体支持由卡莉·卡雷拉提供，音频和视频剪辑由杰瑞德·蒙纳哥负责，额外支持来自史蒂夫·德尔梅特和PodcastOne。
LadyGang is hosted and produced by Keltie Knight, Beckettoven, and Jack Vanic with social media support from Carly Carrera, audio and video editing from Jared Monaco, and additional support from Steve Delameter and PodcastOne.
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