BABY FOR BECCA

该来个快速环节了。

It's time for a quickie.

Podcast One 带来 LadyGang，好莱坞女生天团的 LadyGang 快速秀。

Podcast one presents the LadyGang, the Hollywood girl posse with LadyGang Quickie.

今天出场的是凯尔蒂·奈特、贝卡·托宾和杰克·范尼克。

Here's Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanick.

咱们赶紧来吧。

Let's make this quick.

嗨。

Hello.

嗨。

Hello.

嗨。

Hello.

欢迎来到 LadyGang 快速秀。

Welcome to LadyGang Quickie.

我是贝卡，和杰克还有海莉在这儿。

I am Becca here with Jack and Healthy.

你好。

Hello.

嗨。

Hi.

你这件是

You have

一条可爱的浅蓝小开衫？

a cute little periwinkle.

是件浅蓝色的开衫吗？

Is it a periwinkle cardigan?

哦，这是Aerie家的。

Know, it's from Aerie.

你

You

他们根本没赞助这个播客，真是烦人。

They are of my don't sponsor this podcast, which is so annoying.

或者

Or

我每次 tagged 他们，他们都没反应，可我穿的全是他们的衣服。

they don't notice any time I tag them and all of my clothes are from there.

因为我们超过三十了。

Because we're over 30.

就是因为你——

It's because you're

对。

Yeah.

不是什么千禧一代。

Not Gen Sorry.

但我真觉得，我要是做博主，Aerie 应该找我，我从十五岁就开始买他们的衣服了。

But like I feel like I would be even more of an influencer for Aerie because I've shopped at them since I was 15.

所以我花在他们身上的钱，比任何Z世代都多。

So I've given them way more money than any Gen Z would.

你以前没怎么买过吧？

You didn't have like a

购物上确实断过一阵。

little break in the shopping.

我觉得中间是有个节点的。

I feel like there was a point.

没错，确实断了。

No, there's definitely a break.

明白了。

Okay.

我正想说就是断过一阵呢。

I was gonna say a break.

断了差不多十五年。

It was like a fifteen year break.

然后我就回到我以前常逛的那些店，就像我说的，那些店靠谱。

And then I went back, like I said, to all of my stores I used to shop at because they're just reliable.

等等，我先说个特别搞笑的事行不？

Wait, can tell you before we start something so funny?

好啊。

Yeah.

就是啊。

Just

一想到这个我就忍不住。

thinking about that.

行吧。

Okay.

你知道吗，2026年这儿啥都不容易，真的一点都不轻松。

So, you know, I've been on a big, listen, everything's hard out here in 2026.

咱们现在可是在经济衰退期呢。

Like we're in a recession.

大家都知道，工作机会少多了。

Everybody knows, like, the jobs are down.

咱们来点实在的吧，兄弟们。

The podcast like, let we can be real about this guys.

你日子也不好过。

Like, you're struggling.

咱们都不好过。

We're struggling.

我有个蠢问题。

I have a dumb question.

对。

Yeah.

到底算不算经济衰退啊？官方是这么说的吗？

Are we in do they say like we're in a recession or just like, are we in one?

我觉得咱们确实处在衰退中。

Think we are in a recession.

所有迹象都表明是的。

Think all signs are pointing yes.

但说真的，我们真的在吗？

But like, are we?

我个人的生活已经陷入衰退了。

My personal Keltie is in a recession.

我也是，过得特别艰难。

I am in a recession as well.

我觉得咱们根本不用再说了，这事儿现在就是板上钉钉了。

I'm pretty sure that we don't even have to say it anymore because this is now just it is.

没错，就是这样。

It is.

我们确实身处其中。

We are.

说实话，关税对播客和电视广告主的打击都特别大。

And I think like to be real, like the tariffs were really hard on the advertisers for the podcast and the tariffs were hard on the advertisers for the TV.

可惜啊，我们这行全靠品牌撑着，你懂的。

Unfortunately, all of us make our our life in entertainment, which is like you need brands, you know?

总之说白了，我一直在想各种法子，像很多人一样，想让手头的东西睡着了也能赚钱。

So anyway, long story short, I have been getting creative in ways to just maximize like, you know, like so many people, like what I own, what I have, make money when I'm asleep.

我试过一个办法，说起来有点傻，但正好咱们在聊衣服，我觉得挺有意思的——洛杉矶有家叫Janet Mendel的店，还有个叫Albright的，她专门收你穿过的旧礼服，然后帮你出租。

And so one of the ways that I did that, sorry, this is so dumb, but I just want to tell you it's because it's kind of funny we're talking about clothes, is that there's a company in LA called Janet Mendel, and they also have like Albright, but Janet Mendel, she'll take your old gowns and things you've already worn, and then she rents them.

她就是干这个的。

And that's like what she is.

我租过她家上百万件裙子了。

She's a showroom and I've rented a million dresses.

后来她推出个新服务：你衣柜里那些压箱底的设计师单品，不穿也别闲着，她帮你租出去，你就能分钱。

And she started this thing where she will take your designer pieces that you have in your closet that you're not wearing and she'll rent them out and you can make money.

每租出去一件上千美元的礼服，你就能拿一百块。

And like every time someone it's a thousand dollars to rent a gown there, you make a $100.

我当时就想，我这儿一堆宝贝啊，尤其是那些Bob Mackie的。

And I was like, well, I have all these pieces, my Bob Mackie.

我这些年买了很多礼服，或者别人送的，反正堆了一大堆。

Like I have a lot of gowns that I've bought or been, you know, over these years.

我就想，哎，这么多人要办婚礼，正好用得上。

And I was like, all these people have weddings.

我打算把我那些不穿的名牌衣服，比如那件迪奥夹克，一口气拿出去十五件。

I was like, I'm going to take over like 15 things like a Dior jacket that I'm not wearing.

这样每个月能赚个几千块，反正大家都会来租我的衣服。

And I was like, and I'm going to make a couple thousand dollars a month because everyone's going to rent my stuff.

结果呢？就租出去了一件。

Not one.

刚收到账单。

Just got my invoice.

就一单。

One rental.

不过也还不错了。

That's good.

这东西是干嘛用的？

What is it for?

他们想要白色的。

They wanted the white.

那件白裙子我只穿过一次，就是那个小租赁用途。

I've only worn it once that white and ox like little rental thing.

那是我在Net-a-Porter买的一条裙子。

It's a it's a a dress I got in net a porte.

它是白色的。

It's white.

说实话，我得跟你讲真话。

But I honestly was like, I gotta be honest with you.

这裙子我肯定不会再穿了。

I'm never gonna wear that dress again.

一次租出去能赚一百块。

A $100 at a pop.

我就打算上Poshmark把它卖了。

I'm just gonna go sell it on Poshmark.

我就直接挂到RealReal上卖了。

I'm just gonna go sell it on real real.

我打算把那些礼服全收回来。

Like, I'm I'm I'm retaking back the gowns.

后来我想，这衣服都搁那儿半年了，才租出去一次。

And then I was like, so they've been there for six months and I was like, one rental.

我心想，根本没人想要我的东西。

And I was like, nobody wants my stuff.

她说，现在大家都只想要古董款。

And she goes, they just all want archival.

人人都想穿古董迪奥，古董什么的。

Everyone wants to be wearing archival Dior, archival, whatever.

总之，现在这行情真是不好混啊。

Anyway, so times are tough out here.

我不明白为啥要给那么多

Don't know why should give

给你超过百分之十。

you more than 10%.

我也这么觉得。

I do too.

我觉得分成应该这样：

I feel like that the split should be

他们可是啥活儿都干，还得负责修修补补。

a They're little doing all the work and then they repair it.

还得送去干洗。

They dry clean it.

哦，这样啊。

Oh, okay.

行吧。

Alright.

总之，这就是为什么

Anyway, that's why

你不能这么做

you can't have

但我心想，整个颁奖季根本没人想租我的鲍勃·麦基衣服，根本没人要租。

but I was like, nobody wants to rent during the entire award season, no one wants to rent my Bob Mackie.

大概只有我想穿那件独角兽造型的鲍勃·麦基吧。

I guess only me wants to wear the unicorn Bob Mackie.

太显眼了。

Too recognizable.

总之，简而言之，是Aerie。

Anyway, long story short, Aerie.

算了。

Anyway.

你简直就是詹妮弗·蒂莉，还记得她当年在比佛利山庄重聚时穿的那条裙子吗？上面直接印着她的脸。

You are so Jennifer Tilly because remember her reunion dress for Beverly Hills was the it was her face on it.

是比蒙特吗？

Was it Beaumont?

对，没错。

Oh, yeah.

这要是我不信，真没见过这么 Kelty 的操作。

I mean, that is a Kelty move if I have ever seen one.

你们俩简直是灵魂伴侣。

You guys are really kindred spirits.

太疯狂了。

Insane.

我们俩简直一模一样。

Like, we're we're the same.

不过我不想把话题扯到我身上。

Anyway, I don't wanna make this about me.

重点是你们。

It's about you.

好的。

Okay.

行吧。

Alright.

嗯，我前两天跟凯尔蒂说了。

Well, Kelty, I told her a couple nights ago.

我说：嘿，我给你准备了个超有趣的短篇节目。

I said, hey, I have a really fun episode planned for the quickie.

你这回就别干活了，难得偷个懒。

You don't have to work for once in your life.

我来扛重活。

Will do some heavy lifting.

我来把这期搞定。

I'll produce this out.

结果我真把她吓着了。

And so I did kind of scare her.

她问我：你打算搞什么名堂？

She's like, what do you have planned?

你猜猜看？

And are there any guesses?

你猜我会在这儿干点啥？

Like, what did you, what do you think I'm gonna do here?

我真不知道，因为你以前从来没这么干过。

I truly don't know because I don't think you've ever done this before.

我觉得你可能是要辞职了。

Like, I think maybe you're gonna quit.

不是，我是为了别人做的。

No, I did it for someone's.

我是为了你们，为了妈妈才这么做的。

I did it for you guys for mother.

是吗？

Was it yeah.

是为了妈妈的纪念日。

Had to mother's anniversary.

你们都是为了妈妈。

You guys with your mom's.

哦，原来是这样。

Oh, that

太暖心了。

was so sweet.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

太棒了。

That was amazing.

咱们下次还得再去。

Oh, we should go again.

真好啊。

So nice.

好吧。

Okay.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我觉得你觉得这玩意儿一文不值，所以你直接插手，非得重做不可，还老想聊些奇奇怪怪的东西。

I feel like you think it's trash and you're taking over because you're like, we got to redo this and you want to talk about weird.

你八成在看《罗德岛主妇》吧？

Like you're probably watching Real Housewives of Rhode Island.

要不要聊聊这个？

Do want to talk about that maybe?

我还没开始看呢，但听说特别棒。

I actually haven't started yet, but I hear it's wonderful.

行。

Okay.

不用了。

No.

要不我直接跟你们说吧，我打算退下来了。

What if I was like, you guys, I am actually going to be stepping down.

你啊。

You

你要是真想直播宣布，趁着最后这点机会冲一波广告和下载量嘛。

would do it live for the right for you're like, and in my last fleeting trying to get ads and downloads Yeah.

我得在《LadyGang》上爆个大料了。

I'm now gonna break new I'm gonna break news on the LadyGang.

是的。

Yeah.

好。

Okay.

我这就给你们看张照片。

So I'm getting ready to show you a picture.

然后我想听听你们最真实的反应。

Then I just want your honest reactions.

不行。

No.

不行。

No.

等等。

Wait.

这是谁的孩子？

Whose baby is this?

这是我孩子。

This is my baby.

别说了。

Shut the up.

她是LadyGang的第四位成员，因为她是个女生。

It's the fourth member of the LadyGang because she's a lady.

我要哭了。

I'm gonna cry.

她八月份来。

She's coming in August.

别闹了。

Stop it.

不行。

No.

你是在追你女朋友吧。

You're after your girl.

天哪。

Oh, my God.

等等，这也太让人激动了。

Wait, this is so exciting.

天哪。

Oh, my God.

我太兴奋了。

I'm so excited.

天哪。

My God.

她

She

脑袋都长全了。

has a whole head already.

她脑袋可真大。

She has a whole big head.

身子倒是小巧玲珑，但也不算太小。

So her body is measuring like small petite, not too small.

可脑袋却大得吓人，跟扎克和福特一样，是全世界最大的脑袋。

But then she has a big head, which Zach and Ford have like the world's largest heads.

她长得简直跟福特一模一样。

And she looks exactly like Ford.

所以我把这张照片跟那张并排放在一起。

So I put this side by side.

这就是她。

So here's that was her.

说实话，所有婴儿刚出生时都差不多，但你生过一个之后，再看不同孩子的侧脸，就能一眼认出——那是福特，他们简直像同一个娃。

And like, yeah, sometimes all babies look the same, but once you've had one and you see different profiles of different, that's Ford, they look like the same baby.

而且她长得像你？等等，那是福特？

Well, and she has your wait, that's that's Ford?

对，那就是福特。

That's Ford.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

看侧脸就知道。

Like profile.

鼻子一模一样，还有

So same nose, same

嘴唇。

lips.

这是

This is

首先，你居然瞒着我们？

so first of all, how dare you keep this from us?

你知道的，贝卡，

Well, you know, Becca,

每次见到你，我都会问你最近怎么样，

you know, every time I see you, I always ask you about, I'm like, what's going on?

好吧，

Okay.

我得跟你说件事，

I have to tell you something.

不，我得告诉你发生的事，

No, I need to tell you something that happened.

我当时就想，你疯了吧。

And I was like, you're fucking crazy.

几周前，大概两周前吧，我本来没打算提这事儿。

So a few weeks ago, like two weeks ago, and I didn't bring this up.

是的。

Yeah.

我去参加一个摄影拍摄，碰上了苏·马多尔，她是我们这边的公关，也帮过很多人，还跟播客一号线合作。

I was at a photo shoot and I ran into Sue Madore, who is a publicist and she works with us and she works with everyone and she works with Podcast One.

她跟我说：天哪，我真为贝卡高兴。

And she was like, oh my god, I'm so excited for Becca.

我说：对啊，我知道。

And I was like, yeah, I know.

她看起来一切都顺顺利利的。

She seems like everything's going great for her.

可她却说：不是这样的。

And she goes, no.

就是那个新生的孩子。

And like the new baby.

我当时说：不是，不是这样的。

And I was like, I No.

等等。

Wait.

你搞错了。

You told No.

不是。

No.

我当时心想：哦，我知道了。

I was like I was like, oh, I know.

我觉得我们可能会多做点妈妈主题的播客。

I think she's I think we're gonna do more mom podcasting.

我的意思是，你看，我们LadyGang里有好多当妈的都在摸索该干嘛。

Like, I think we're gonna you know, because like there we have so many LadyGang moms who are trying to figure out what to do.

我当时想，她说的‘新宝宝’，应该不是指真的婴儿。

And I was like, I think she meant that like her new baby, but not like a baby.

我当时就想，我怎么可能不知道。

I was like, I would know.

她就说：‘哎呀，我是不是不该说这个？’

And she was like, oh, she's like, oh, maybe I wasn't supposed to say anything.

我就说：‘哦，对啊。’

And I was like, oh, yeah.

她看着我说：‘天啊，她居然没告诉你？这也太劲爆了吧。’

And I was like, she looked at me and she was like, wow, she didn't tell you that's dark.

我就想：‘那她是不是早就知道了？’

And I was like, oh, so does she know?

因为……

Because

她可能知道，毕竟这期节目是BabyGang上线的第二天播的。

she may know only because, okay, so this is airing the day after the BabyGang launch.

昨天才是BabyGang的第一期。

So yesterday was the first episode of BabyGang.

那期节目里，我带着我的代理妈妈一起，我们聊了聊当时是怎么公布这个宝宝要来的消息的。

And on that episode, I had my surrogate on with me and we were talking about that's how we announced that this baby was coming.

所以我在Podcast One那边也得跟人谈，说要发个公告，后面可能会有媒体关注。

And so I did have to have conversations at podcast one in regards to like an announcement and that there's gonna be some press around it.

说不定今天一点动静都没有，谁知道呢？

I mean, maybe today there's crickets, who knows?

但为了让大家有个心理准备，毕竟这事嘛，你也懂的。

But, you know, just to prepare everybody because it's like, you know, whatever.

还有跟赞助商、品牌那边，也得聊一聊我即将当爸、要养娃这些事。

And then and then with sponsors and brands and stuff, having the conversation around like being a having a new baby and all that stuff.

所以我早知道这事儿有风险。

So I knew it was risky.

我确实跟Podcast One那边的苏说了，我们还没告诉那两个姑娘，就是想拍下她们的反应。

And I did tell, like I told Sue at pod the other Sue at podcast one, I did tell her like, we're not telling the girls yet because I wanted to get their reaction on camera.

你这小家伙可真够皮的。

You've little spanked.

我快不行了。

I'm dying.

这太离谱了，我完全懵了。

This is wild because I was so confused.

我当时就想，Sue……

I was like, Sue.

我心想：别闹了。

I was like, come on.

然后她说：天啊，你们俩现在关系这么淡了？

And I was like, she's like, wow, you guys really aren't close anymore.

我当时就说：不是，怎么可能。

I was like, no, are.

我们可亲密了。

We are close.

什么事都互相知道。

We know everything.

我知道杰克有第三个乳头。

I know about Jack's third nipple.

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And they ended up coming back and saying, absolutely.

现在你们去oneskin.co/lady，用代码LADY就能享受15%折扣。

So you can try OneSkin with 15% off using code LADY at oneskin.co/lady.

这个品牌的核心是他们的OS1肽成分。

And at the core of this brand is their OS1 peptide.

这是首个被证实能直击皱纹、细纹和肌肤松弛根源的成分。

It is the first ingredient proven to target a key driver of wrinkles, fine lines, and loss of elasticity.

听好了，OneSkin的产品上过《快公司》、《彭博社》、《今日秀》等各种媒体，它们的设计就是能无缝叠加，或者直接简化你护肤步骤里的好几环，我们超爱这点。

Listen, there have been everywhere, Fast Company, Bloomberg, Today Show, all of OneSkin's products are designed to layer seamlessly or replace multiple steps in your routine, which we love.

这款OS1肽基于十多年抗衰老研究开发，经证实能直击衰老的外在表现，帮你从现在开始，一直到老，都拥有最健康的状态。

Born over a decade of longevity research, OneSkin's OS1 peptide is proven to target the visible signs of aging, helping you unlock your healthiest skin now and as you age.

限时优惠，用代码 LADY 在 oneskin.co/lady 购买，立减15%。

For a limited time, try OneSkin with 15% off using code LADY at oneskin.co/lady.

去 oneskin.co，用代码 LADY，直接省15%。

That's 15% off at oneskin.co with code LADY.

买完之后，他们会问你从哪儿听说的，记得告诉他们是LadyGang推荐的。

And after you purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them and tell them the LadyGang sent you.

这个推荐给所有爱追剧的姐妹。

This one's for all my TV lovers.

我用DirecTV的娱乐套餐，六十多个频道，Disney+、Hulu、HBO Max全包了，一个搞定。

My entertainment from DirecTV gets you 60 plus channels and Disney plus Hulu and HBO Max all in one pack.

但重点来了。

But here's the thing.

My Entertainment 有这么多好剧，你肯定忍不住想跟人聊你最近看的那些。

With so much great TV in My Entertainment, you're gonna want to talk about everything you've been watching.

不过别忘了，你朋友可能没你追得那么勤。

Just remember that your friends might not be as well watched as you.

别剧透啊，鼓励他们也来订 My Entertainment，每月只要 34.99 美元。

Don't be a spoiler and encourage them to get My Entertainment for just $34.99 a month.

赶紧去 directtv.com/genrepacks 注册吧。

Go to directtv.com/genrepacks and sign up today.

仅限新用户。

New customers only.

服务自动按月续费，除非你主动取消。

Service renews monthly unless canceled.

需要提供信用卡信息。

Credit card required.

应用相关条款另见。

Conditions apply to apps.

DirecTV五天试用结束后，HBO Max广告版自动开始。

HBO Max basic with ads begins after DirecTV five day trial.

更多详情请访问 directv.com。

Learn more at directv.com.

条款限制适用。

Restrictions apply.

The LadyGang。

The LadyGang.

我就知道你要说这个。

I knew you were going

我早猜到了。

to keep this from us.

我就知道你会觉得。

I just knew it.

我就知道你会觉得。

I knew You felt

是吧，杰克？

it, Jack?

对。

Yes.

我是认真的，真没骗你。

Well, I literally, I'm not kidding you.

只要一有机会，我就去问贝卡：代孕那边怎么样了？

Like anytime I get the chance, I ask Becca like, what's going on with the surrogate?

每次都是这样。

Like every single time.

我就直觉觉得，这事儿会是个惊喜。

And I'm like, I just had an inkling that like it was going to be a surprise

因为你之前有动静，但我还以为你放弃要第二个孩子了。

because you had I but then I thought you gave up on a second baby.

我就是这么想的。

That's where I was at.

我当时就想，她说不行，这负担太重了。

I was like, oh, she's like, no, it's too much.

我不干了。

I'm not doing it.

你知道咱们那个‘BabyGang’吧？但其实德州关于找代孕的那些规矩、流程，简直太复杂了，我真觉得她就是干脆决定只生一个了——毕竟你以前一直为福特是独生子这事特别纠结，就像杰克一样。

And there was all these different you probably talk about our BabyGang, but like all the different laws of being in Texas and like how to get the surrogate and everything like it was just so much that I was like, oh, she's just decided to have one because you were very troubled by this for a long time about Ford being an only child like Jack.

天哪。

Oh my God.

可别这样。

God forbid.

千万别。

Forbid.

我倒是真想过一阵子。

No, I did for a minute.

来，我简单说点背景吧。

So, you know, just a little bit of backstory.

那个帮我们生下福特的天使住在得州，我们本来打算再找她一次。

The the incredible angel that carried Ford lives in Texas, and we were planning on doing it again.

第二轮她简直太棒了。

Round two, she was wonderful.

我们俩相处得特别投缘，你知道的。

And we had such a great, you know, rapport.

但福特出生后，得州的法律变了，现在让我找人代孕风险太大了——万一出事，我没法放心，怕她的命会比孩子更重要。说实话，不管别人怎么说，到现在我都觉得，代孕妈妈的生命比孩子更重要。

But then since Ford was born, laws have changed in Texas and it's too risky to have a woman carrying for me to carry my baby because if something were to happen, I didn't trust that her life would become would be more important than the baby because that to me, I mean, don't care what you say to me still at the in this moment, the surrogate, the woman carrying the baby is her life is more important.

她自己也有孩子，有家庭。

She has her own children, her own family.

这根本不是索菲的选择，根本不用想，答案很明显。

So I was like, it wasn't a Sophie's Choice because it's a no brainer.

但我就是太害怕了，之前也跟几个人聊过，一直在纠结：我们到底该不该冒这个险？

But because I was just too afraid, and I'd had conversations with a few people leading up to that, trying to decide, do we just risk it?

要不要冒这个险？

Do we not?

她说她愿意冒这个险。

And and she was like, I'm willing to risk this.

你知道的，我不想把这事搞得太沉重，但我真的没法安心让她待在那种地方。

Like, you know, But I I just to not make it too serious, I just felt like there was no world that I would feel comfortable with her living in a state that they really do.

只要你肚子里有心跳，很多人根本不在乎代孕妈妈会怎样。

If there's a heartbeat inside of your belly, it really doesn't have a they don't really some people don't really give a shit what's happening to the person carrying the baby.

后来我们找到了一位特别棒的代孕妈妈，但那件事之后，我特别心碎，整个人都垮了。

So we found a wonderful surrogate that after that happened, I was really heartbroken, and I was just so sad and defeated.

我就觉得，这大概是老天在告诉我，也许就到此为止了吧。

And I just felt like, you know, this is the universe telling me maybe this is it.

当我们决定结束这段旅程时，我们反而特别开心。

This is the part that you, you know, the and I'm and we were so happy when we made up our minds that we were gonna just put an put an end to the journey.

我们真的挺高兴的。

We were very happy.

我们特别期待能拥有福特，就他一个，就够了。

We were thrilled about the idea of having Ford and Ford alone.

然后我朋友发来一封随机的邮件，说他知道我们特别沮丧，但他认识亚特兰大一位特别棒的女士——那儿也是我老家，是扎克的家乡，我们全家的老家。

And then this random email comes through from my friend and he said I know that you guys are feeling very discouraged but there's this wonderful wonderful woman in Atlanta where I'm from where Zach's from where entire families are from.

这感觉就像个不可思议的好兆头，毕竟我们的家人都在那儿。

So it felt like a really crazy good omen because our families are there.

佐治亚州对孕妇的态度相对友好一点。

And Georgia is a little bit friendlier of a state with protecting pregnant people.

那儿还没全面禁止。

They're not a total banned state.

我真的讨厌自己得知道这么多事。

It's just so I like hate that I know all these things.

但我还是去见了她。

But so I met her.

我们去亚特兰大那会儿，她还专程来看了LadyGang的演出。

She came to see the LadyGang show in Atlanta when we were there.

我跟她当面见了面，人真的特别棒。昨天我们在BabyGang播客里聊了整段经历，聊得特别投缘。

And I met her in person and she's just so awesome and wonderful and that we had a conversation on the podcast of BabyGang yesterday where we chat about the whole journey.