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这是iHeart的播客。
This is an iHeart podcast.
百分百真人制作。
Guaranteed human.
我是迈尔斯·特纳。
I'm Miles Turner.
我是布里安娜·斯图尔特。
And I'm Brianna Stewart.
我们的播客《实至名归》可是头一回这么干。
And our podcast, game recognized game has never been done before.
我们俩现役球员，带你看看球场内外真实的生活和想法。
Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.
啥都敢聊。
Nothing's off limits.
我们聊摆烂。
We talk tanking.
我这话说了可能要挨骂，但我真觉得这事儿在WNBA里肯定在发生。
I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA.
我们也会聊自己的失误。
We talk about our mistakes too.
他们把我拉到一边，说：兄弟，你这不行啊。
They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man.
昨晚我们接到电话了，兄弟。
We got a call last night, man.
比赛前夜你可不能在城里这么瞎晃悠。
You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games.
赶紧去iHeartRadio应用、Apple Podcasts，或者你平时听播客的地方，收听Stewie和Miles的《Game Recognized Game》。
Check out game recognized game with Stewie and Miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
威尔·法瑞尔的《大钱球员》和iHeart播客联合呈现：足球妈妈。
Will Ferrell's big money players and iHeart Podcast presents soccer moms.
我叫莉安。
So I'm Leanne.
是的
Yeah.
这是我最好的朋友珍妮特。
This is my best friend Janet.
嗨。
Hey.
从高中起我们就形影不离了。
And we have been joined at the hips since high school.
没错。
Absolutely.
这么多年过去了。
A redacted amount of years later.
我们还是黏在一起。
We're still joined at the hip.
只是屁股大了点。
Just a little bit bigger hips.
这是一档播客。
This is a podcast.
我们一边在本田奥德赛的车后头为孩子们的青少年足球赛做赛前准备，一边录这个节目。
We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.
各种零食饮料都备齐了。
With all the snacks and drinks.
你怎么不买啤酒，偏选了硬苏打酒？
Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?
因为搞买一送一啊。
Well, they hit a BOGO.
那你就
Well, then you
顺手拿了。
got them.
听听这些足球妈妈们。
Listen to soccer moms
在 iHeartRadio 应用、Apple 播客，或者你平时听播客的任何平台都能找到我们。
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
这儿大多数人觉得互相照应特别重要，谁家要是遇到难处，大伙儿都会主动伸手帮一把。
Most people out here think that taking care of one another is important, and most people would step up for a neighbor going through a tough time.
邻里朋友家要是有需要，这儿的人从来都不袖手旁观。
Most people around here help out friends and family when they need it.
可有意思的是，真轮到自己需要帮忙的时候，大多数人反而开不了口。
But the funny thing is, most of us won't look for help when we need it.
要是你心理上觉得撑不住了，别憋着，找个人聊聊吧，
Talk to someone if you're struggling with mental health,
因为这儿的人，真心都在乎你。
because most people out here really care.
更多资讯请上 loveyourmindtoday.org 查看。
Find more information at loveyourmindtoday.org.
网址是 loveyourmindtoday.org。
That's loveyourmindtoday.org.
本节目由亨茨曼心理健康研究所和广告委员会联合呈现。
Brought to you by the Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council.
从纸面上看，尼克·迪肯波尔节目的三位主持人都是天才。
On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dickenpole show are geniuses.
我们能讲清楚人工智能和数据中心的原理，但有些事我们自己也搞不明白。
We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand.
更好的说法是：玩蠢游戏，就得认蠢结果。
Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
没错。
Yes.
对。
Yeah.
顺便说一句，第一个说这话的其实不是泰勒·斯威夫特。
Which which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time.
我本来还以为是她呢。
I actually I thought it was.
我搞错了。
I got that wrong.
但话说回来，没人是完美的。
But, hey, No one's perfect.
不过咱们也差不多了。
We're pretty close, though.
在 iHeartRadio 应用、Apple 播客或者你常用的播客平台收听《Nick、Dick 和 Paul 的节目》。
Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
家庭法院法官做出裁决后，大家等了很久，看劳拉会不会被刑事起诉。
After the family court judge made her ruling, there was a long wait to see if Laura would be criminally charged.
克莱顿希望劳拉付出代价。
Clayton wanted Laura to face consequences.
我们也在想，要求起诉她，是不是要求太高了？
We also were like, are we asking for too much to get her prosecuted?
唯一的胜利，就是让她承担责任。
The only win is her being held accountable.
不只他一个人这么想。
He wasn't the only one who felt that way.
克莱顿受审后不久，内容创作者梅根·福克斯发起了一场写信运动。
Shortly after Clayton's trial, content creator Megan Fox launched a letter writing campaign.
目的是想引起马里科帕县检察官蕾切尔·米切尔的注意，让她的办公室对劳拉·欧文斯提起刑事指控。
The goal was to try to get the attention of Maricopa County attorney Rachel Mitchell so that her office would pursue criminal charges against Laura Owens.
我就是提了个想法，写了几个模板给那些不知道怎么写的人，然后请他们帮忙写信。
All I did was put the idea out there, write a couple of templates for people if they had a problem writing, and ask them to do it.
大家真的坐下来去写，这才是自发的。
The fact that people sat down and did this, that's organic.
他们贴邮票、装信封，一封封寄出去。
They licked stamps, put them on envelopes, and sent them in.
我知道米切尔检察官，她确实收到了一大堆信。
I know that attorney Mitchell, well, she got a lot of letters.
劳拉得罪了很多人，不管是直接的还是间接的，这正是他们发声的机会。
Laura had offended a lot of people, directly and indirectly, and this was their chance to be heard.
再来听听梅根怎么说。
Here's Megan again.
我特别支持写纸质信，发邮件根本没人看。
I'm a big believer in writing paper letters because if you send emails, nobody reads them.
但要是寄传真或者纸质信，像《奇迹发生在34街》里那样堆到他们桌上，他们想装看不见都不行，真会开始琢磨：这事儿不对劲。
But if they get faxes and paper letters that you have to dump on their desks just like in Miracle on 34th Street, they can't ignore you, and they really start to think, wow.
这问题确实严重。
There's a real problem here.
有人愿意专门跑去邮筒给我寄信，这说明他们真在乎，你必须让人听见你的声音。
People cared enough to walk to the mailbox and send me a letter, and you have to be heard.
一眨眼，事情就开始有动静了。
And the next thing you know, action starts happening.
写信给蕾切尔·米切尔的，可不只是随便几个Reddit网友。
It wasn't just random Reddit users writing letters to Rachel Mitchell.
有些信是被劳拉·欧文斯直接伤害过的人写的，比如迈克的老婆丹妮尔·马里奇尼。
Some of the letters were from people who'd been personally impacted by Laura Owens, like Danielle Maricchini, Mike's wife.
这是丹妮尔写的内容。
Here's what Danielle wrote.
我写的是：亲爱的拉切尔·米切尔，我是丹妮尔·马里奇尼，我写这封信不仅是作为迈克尔·马里奇尼的妻子，更是作为一个被劳拉·米歇尔·欧文斯持续伤害的家庭成员，一个母亲，一个女人。
I said, Dear Rachel Mitchell, my name is Danielle Maricchini, and I am writing to you not only as the wife of Michael Maricchini, but as a mother and a woman deeply affected by the ongoing trauma inflicted upon my family by Laura Michelle Owens.
迈克尔一直是劳拉·欧文斯操纵和恶意行为的直接目标，这给我们的家庭带来了严重的感情、心理和声誉上的伤害。
Michael has been the direct target of Laura Owens' manipulative and malicious behavior, and it has caused serious emotional, psychological, and reputational harm.
她的所作所为早就超出了普通争执或分歧的界限。
Her actions have gone far beyond the boundaries of conflict or disagreement.
这完全是蓄意折磨、精准打击，而且极具破坏性。
They have been tormenting, targeted, and entirely destructive.
她一直在想办法破坏我们的生活，散播谣言，挑拨我们亲友圈和工作圈的关系。
She has continuously made efforts to disrupt our lives, spread falsehoods, and create division within our personal and professional circles.
过去几年里，我不得不参加了两次法庭听证会，一次是2020年，另一次是2024年，都是因为劳拉·欧文斯捏造的指控。
Over the past several years, I have had to sit through two separate court hearings, one in 2020 and another in 2024, both initiated by Laura Owens' falsified claims.
这两次庭审期间，我都怀着孕，分别是我两个女儿出生前。
I was pregnant with each of my daughters during those proceedings.
在怀孕期间还要应付这么 stressful 又情绪激烈的官司，真的太摧残人了。
To endure such stressful and emotionally charged legal battles while expecting our children was incredibly traumatic.
因为她的所作所为，我长期承受着巨大的压力和焦虑，我们全家也一直活在恐惧和不安中，太久太久了。
As a result of her actions, I have endured intense stress and anxiety and our family has lived in fear and uncertainty for far too long.
劳拉这种没完没了的骚扰，让我们夜不能寐、关系紧张，甚至让我们在自己家里都感觉不到安全。
The relentless nature of Laura's behavior has caused sleepless nights, strained relationships, and has affected our ability to feel safe in our own lives.
我们恳求你们办公室能认真看看这个案子，别只把它当个法律问题，更要当成人命关天的事来对待。
We are pleading with your office to take a closer look at this case, not just as a legal matter, but as a human one.
劳拉·欧文斯干的这些事，不只是害人，简直是不公到极点。
What Laura Owens has done is not only harmful, but unjust.
我们不仅要问责，更重要的是，我们需要保护。
We need accountability, and more importantly, we need protection.
请你们好好想想，劳拉·欧文斯长期对我们的精神虐待和操控，可不是一次两次了。
I ask that you consider the long standing pattern of emotional abuse and manipulation of Laura Owens.
我是斯蒂芬妮·杨，欢迎收听《情感陷阱》。
I'm Stephanie Young, and this is lovetrapped.
克莱顿的审判结束后，有很多人站出来支持那些被劳拉·欧文斯伤害过的人。
After Clayton's trial, there was a groundswell of support for people who'd been victimized by Laura Owens.
迈克·马里奇尼也给检察官写了一封信。
Mike Maricini wrote a letter of his own to the prosecutor.
这不仅是恳请他们认真对待劳拉的行为，还主动提出愿意全力配合调查。
It was not only a plea for them to take Laura's actions seriously, but an offer to help their investigation in any way he could.
我说：听着，我这儿有一大堆资料。
I said, listen, I have all of this information here.
我很愿意把这些都给你们看看。
I would love to share this with you.
她肯定会让我们所有人日子没法过。
She's gonna try to make all of our lives hell.
你们一定要看看这些材料。
Please look at this information.
她两小时内就回复了，说已经把调查人员加进这个案子了。
And she responded within, I would say, two hours and said, I'm including my investigators on this case.
他们会主动联系你的。
They'll be reaching out to you.
又过了一小时，他们就给我打电话了，问：‘我们什么时候能去你那儿？’
They called me within another hour, and they're like, when can we come to you?
迈克把收集到的证据发给了他们，包括他旧笔记本电脑里的内容。
Mike sent them evidence he had collected, including what he had on his old laptop.
一周之内，调查人员就飞到加州来见他。
Within a week, the investigators flew to California to interview him.
我们在我家聊了好几个小时，但他们没透露任何关于调查的具体细节。
We talked for several hours at my house, and they didn't give me any details of what they were looking into.
但他们说，他们已经跑遍了全美。
But they'd said they traveled all over The U.
美国。
S.
而且他们真的把这案子当回事儿。
And they were taking this case very seriously.
他们在找任何犯罪行为的证据。
They were looking for proof of any criminal behavior.
我联系了蕾切尔·米切尔的办公室，想看看他们愿不愿意为这个播客做个评论。
I reached out to Rachel Mitchell's office to see if they would weigh in for this podcast.
他们回信说，因为这是个未结案，她不能发表任何评论。
They wrote back saying that she's unable to comment given that this is an open case.
不过，蕾切尔·米切尔确实在2024年8月的一场新闻发布会上做了公开通报。
But Rachel Mitchell did give a public update at a press conference in August 2024.
今天早上我跟负责这个案子的一位调查员聊了聊，知道他们正在火速推进。
I was talking to one of the investigators working on it this morning about an update, and I know they're going through it quickly.
他们已经访谈了不少人，你也知道，信息来源五花八门——医疗记录、法庭文件什么的。
They've talked to a number people and as you can imagine, it's gathering information from a number of different sources, medical courts, etc.
所以他们现在忙得不可开交。
So they're busy working on that.
在第七集结尾，你听到了克莱顿的家事法庭审理和法官的裁决。
At the end of episode seven, you heard Clayton's family court trial and the judge's ruling.
之后，Rachel Mitchell的团队花了好几个月时间做调查。
After that, there were months of waiting while Rachel Mitchell's office carried out their investigation.
就像上集我们聊到的，Laura一直忙着在网上发帖，讲她这边的故事。
As we talked about in the last episode, Laura stayed busy by posting online, telling her side of the story.
2025年1月29日早上，十二名全副武装的警察突然闯进了欧文斯家。
Then, on the morning of 01/29/2025, 12 police officers in tactical gear showed up at the Owens family home.
他们是来执行搜查令的，想找到能支持对Laura Owens提起刑事指控的证据。
They were there to execute a search warrant of the Owens property, looking to find evidence that would support their growing criminal case against Laura Owens.
你们搜查令上写的是啥？
What are you searching warrant?
这十二个警察分成了两组，一组绕到后头，去Laura住的那间独立小屋。
The 12 cops split up with one group going around back to the casita where Laura lived.
就是主屋后面那间独立的工作室公寓。
It's a detached studio apartment behind the main house.
另一组人去了前门，那里是Laura父母住的地方。
Another group of officers went to the front door, where Laura's parents lived.
丹、罗恩、劳拉，把搜查令给我们看看。
Dan, Ron, Laura, please search warrant.
请开门。
Open the door, please.
我们不打算现在宣布他。
We're not gonna announce him right
你听到的是警察随身摄像头录下的真实录音。
What you're hearing is the real audio from the officers' body cams.
这可不是斯科茨代尔警局第一次来欧文斯家了。
This wasn't the Scottsdale PD's first trip to the Owens home.
过去几年里，他们至少来过四次，都是为了对劳拉进行心理状况检查。
Over the last few years, they'd been there at least four times to conduct welfare checks on Laura.
大多数报警都来自匿名举报，有人担心她在网上发布的自杀倾向内容。
Most of those calls were triggered by anonymous tips from people concerned about the suicidal ideation she'd been posting online.
这一天，警察一直在前门反复敲门。
On this day, the police stood at the front door repeatedly knocking.
警方搜查令。
Police search warrant.
简、劳拉、罗恩，开门。
Jan, Laura, Ron, open the door.
你能听到门后有动静。
You can hear motion from behind the door.
那是劳拉的妈妈简，但她就是不开门，哪怕来的是警察。
It's Laura's mom, Jan, but she's not opening it, even for the police.
我们是警察，简。
We're the police department, Jan.
我是斯科茨代尔警局的巴克纳警探，我们有搜查令。
Scottsdale Police is detective Buckner with the Scottsdale Police We have a search warrant.
我们是代表马里科帕县检察官办公室来执行这份搜查令的。
Okay, we're serving it on the behalf of the Maricopa County's attorney's office.
你得把门打开。
You need to open up the door.
真是怪了，十二个警察都围在她家院子里。
In an odd turn of events with 12 police officers on her property.
她说她要报警。
She says she's calling the police.
但简还是不肯开门。
But Jan still won't open up the door.
简，我们真不想强行破门，但如果你不开，我们只能这么做了。
Jan, we do not wanna breach your door, but we will if we have to.
你必须把门打开。
You have to open the door.
简，我们就要撞门了。
Jan, we will ram your door.
我们真不想这样。
We are not we wanna do that.
我们不想弄坏你的门。
We don't wanna damage your door.
你把门打开，跟我们说说话就行。
Just pop the door and talk to us.
过了整整两分钟，简终于开门，跟门外等着的警员们说话了。
After two long minutes, Jan finally opened the door to speak with the group of officers waiting outside.
你好。
Hello.
嗨。
Hi.
所以你是……
So you're of
警察局的，对吧？
the police department, okay?
好。
Okay.
我们不是来伤害你的。
We're not here to hurt you.
要是你愿意和你女儿谈的话，我们不会为难你的，行吗？
We're not here to do any hard job if you talk to your daughter, okay?
这
The
警员们走进了主楼里。
officers made their way into the main house.
可没过多久，现场就彻底乱套了。
Almost immediately, the scene turned chaotic.
当时大家七嘴八舌抢着说话，现场乱作一团，气氛特别混乱。
Everyone was talking over one another, and the confusion was palpable.
是罗恩吗？
Ron?
我们是斯科茨代尔警局的警察。
Scottsdale police.
你好。
Hi.
你怎么样？
How are you?
这是斯科茨代尔警察的报告。
This is the Scottsdale police report.
好。
Good.
好。
Good.
好。
Good.
好。
Good.
好。
Good.
关于劳拉，我这就打开幻灯片，好吧？
Regarding Laura, I'm gonna turn on the slide, okay?
对。
Yeah.
我们已经登记了。
We made entry.
现在就联系我们的父母。
Contacting our parents right now.
你可以去卡西塔了。
You're good to move to the casita.
警察靠近卡西塔时，发现劳拉站在一扇推拉玻璃门后面。
When the cops approach the casita, they find Laura standing there behind a sliding glass door.
劳拉。
Laura.
警察。
Police.
是警察。
It's the police.
什么？
What?
是警察局。
It's the police department.
劳拉，斯科茨代尔警察。
Laura, Scottsdale Police.
什么？
What?
你看到我的警徽了吗？
You see my badge?
劳拉只把玻璃推拉门开了一条缝，防护纱门还关着。
Laura cracks open the sliding glass door but leaves the screen door in place.
我们是斯科茨代尔警察局的。
We're with the Scottsdale Police Department.
好的。
Okay.
您能出来跟我们谈谈吗？
Can you come out and talk with us, please?
不行。
No.
县检察官有对您财产的搜查令，所以我们需要您出来一下。
The county attorneys have a search warrant for your property, so we need you to come out.
好吧。
Okay.
对不起。
I'm sorry.
现在还没到早上七点呢。
It's it's not even seven in the morning.
是啊。
Yep.
没关系。
That's fine.
我不太舒服让你进来。
I'm not comfortable having you.
我不认识你们是谁。
I don't know who you guys are.
我刚说了，我是斯科茨代尔的。
I just told you with the Scottsdale
警察局。
Police Department.
我真不放心打开门帘。
I I'm not I'm I'm not not comfortable even opening my screen.
她身后，你能看到她的附属小屋。
Behind her, you can see into her casita.
这段执法记录仪的视频，是我们第一次真正看到劳拉的私人生活。
This body cam video is our first real look into Laura's private world.
地上到处都是衣服，厨房和浴室里也全是。
The floor is covered in clothes, even in the kitchen area and bathroom.
对面的墙上，那堆衣服高得都顶到窗框了。
On the opposite wall, the pile of clothes is so high, it reaches the bottom of the window.
抽屉全敞着，快溢出来了。
The drawers hang open, overflowing.
说实话，哪儿哪儿都堆满了东西。
Honestly, every single surface is covered in stuff.
台面和床头柜上全被纸张、乱七八糟的电子设备，还有好几瓶药给埋住了。
The counters and bedside tables are buried under papers, random electronics, even multiple pill bottles.
最上面放着一个看起来像是粉红色的维多利亚的秘密购物袋。
Resting on top is what looks like a pink Victoria's Secret shopping bag.
墙上挂了不少励志海报，比如她床头那张写着‘你能行’。
The walls are decorated with those motivational art prints, like one by her bed that reads, you got this.
厨房里还有一张，上面写着‘啥事儿都能搞定’。
Another in her kitchen that seems to read, everything is figureoutable.
警察正在努力安抚劳拉的情绪。
The cops are trying to calm Laura down.
好吧。
Okay.
如果我们真要强行介入，早就冲进来了，但我们现在没打算那样做。
Well, if we were gonna handle this more escalated, we were just forced our way in, but we're not doing that.
我们尽量低调处理这件事。
We're trying to handle this as low key as possible.
有人告诉我，要是警察来，也会选在营业时间来。
I was told that if the police were gonna come, they would come during business hours.
我能打个电话给我的律师吗？
Can I call my attorney, please?
我感觉不太舒服，
I'm not comfortable with
去打电话找你的律师吧。
call your attorney.
没问题。
That's fine.
让我给我律师打个电话。
Let me call my attorney.
我能冲进去吗？或者干点什么？
Can I break in or something?
我担心我爸妈。
I'm concerned about my parents.
你们现在都盯着我看呢。
You guys have your eyes drawn right now.
我们的枪都没拿出来。
Our guns are not drawn.
没人指着你。
Nobody's pointing.
没人对准任何人，我没法确认屏幕那边的情况。
Nobody's I can't tell for anybody's screen.
谁也没把枪对着你。
Pointing a gun at you?
你知道吗？
You know what?
我是劳拉？
I Laura?
我爸妈知道有人在这儿吗？
Do my parents know that somebody's here?
知道的。
Yes.
我们现在有警察正在和他们父母沟通。
We have officers talking with their parents right now.
这段视频我看了二十多遍，从每个可用的随身摄像头角度都仔细研究过。
I've seen this footage more than 20 times, studying it from every available body cam angle.
我想说清楚一点。
And I wanna be clear.
虽然警察都带着枪，但枪都还在枪套里，没拔出来。
While the officers are armed, their guns are holstered, not drawn.
但劳拉很不安。
But Laura is shaken.
她的手明显在发抖。
Her hands are visibly trembling.
我给你一个机会。
I'm giving you an opportunity.
我跟你说过，我们有搜查令，要
I told you we have a search warrant for
你让我爸妈进来，让我律师上电话，我只想听一听
you to let have my my parents out here and my attorney on the phone because I don't I am just listen to
听我说。
me.
你就听我说。
Just listen to me.
明白吗？
Okay?
我对你一直都很尊重。
I've been nothing but respectful to you.
就是普通情况。
Ordinary.
现在连早上七点都还没到。
It's not even 07:00 in the morning.
让我给我的律师打个电话吧。
Let me just call my attorney.
行吗？
Okay?
你可以
You can
给你的
call your
律师打电话。
attorney.
我有权联系我的律师。
I'm allowed to call my attorney.
劳拉开始一个接一个地提要求。
Laura starts firing off demands.
但哪怕她嘴上说个不停，也死活不肯把门打开。
But even as she's talking, she's still refusing to actually open the door.
开门。
Open the door.
我能不能先……
I can I just
我们准备切屏进来，要是你……
We're gonna cut the
切屏进去，要是你……
screen and come in if you
不配合的话？不对啊，我正在跟我的律师通电话呢？
don't get off screen isn't even I'm on the phone with my attorney?
我马上让他接电话。
I'll put him on the phone right now.
这是我律师，大卫·景雷斯。
This is my attorney, David Jingress.
我律师，大卫·景雷斯。
My attorney, David Jingress.
我不认识你们是谁，现在连七点都还没到。
I don't know who you guys are, and it's not even seven.
早上七点前，他们有权搜查吗？
Do they have authority to search before 07:00 in the morning?
警察已经在那儿了，劳拉。
The police are there, Laura.
你得让他们该干嘛干嘛。
You need to let them do whatever they're gonna do.
好。
Okay.
行吧。
Fine.
就这些了。
That's all.
我需要这个。
I need it.
这儿有差不多七个人。
There's, like, seven of them in here.
听了律师的话后，劳拉打开了纱门。
After hearing from her attorney, Laura opens the screen door.
其中一个男人一把抢走了她的手机。
One of the men grabs her phone out of her hands.
别抢我手机，还给我。
Don't grab my phone and take it.
得能
Need to be able
你们跟玛雅说话的方式不一样，你们还带枪了？
to speak to Maya different you guys have guns?
你们肯定知道。
You would know.
你们明明就是知道。
You guys literally know.
劳伦，老兄。
Lauren, man.
我们不会伤害你的。
We're not gonna hurt you.
来吧。
Come on.
来吧。
Come on.
我狗还在里面呢。
My dogs are in here.
我们得确保
We're make sure
它们待在里面。
they stay inside.
明白吗？
Alright?
什么？
What?
这边？
This way?
你妈在里面。
Your mom's inside.
我在屋里。
I'm inside the house.
是的。
Yep.
我去跟我妈说。
I'll speak to my mom.
你们有枪啊。
You guys have guns.
我去跟我妈说。
I'll speak to my mom.
是的。
Yeah.
我现在就给她送去。
I'm taking it to her right now.
行吧？
Okay?
好。
Okay.
我们和她有联系。
We have contact with her.
我们送她出去。
We are escorting her out.
监控录像显示，警察带着劳拉走进主屋。
The body cam continues as officers escort Laura into the main house.
与此同时，早就待在主屋里的那群警察正在叫醒劳拉的父亲罗恩·欧文斯。
Meanwhile, the group of officers who were already inside the main house were waking up Laura's dad, Ron Owens.
罗恩问警察为什么来这儿。
Ron asked why the police were there.
劳拉是法院正在调查的对象。
Laura is a a subject of an investigation by the the courts.
所以这事就跟这个有关。
So it's regarding it's regarding that.
明白吗？
Okay?
所以他们会进来，跟你解释清楚，还会给你一份搜查令的副本。
So so it's gonna be they're gonna come in here, they'll explain it to you, and they'll give you a copy of the search
罗恩要求看看搜查令，还问警官的工号是多少。
Ron asks to see the search warrant and wants to know the officer's badge number.
能让我看一下你的警号吗？
Can I see your badge for a second?
你工号是多少？
Your number is what?
我的警号是1422。
1422 is my badge number.
明白吗？
Okay?
我这就把文件放这儿给你。
We're gonna I'll leave it here for you.
负责跟罗恩沟通的警官特别有耐心，也很帮忙。
The officer attending to Ron stays incredibly patient and helpful.
你得知道，罗恩这些年身体一直不太好，刚才连下床都得人扶着。
You have to remember, Ron has dealt with a lot of health issues over the years, and he actually needed a hand just getting out of bed.
我帮你把助行器拿过来，好吗？
Let me get you your walker, okay?
对。
Yeah.
警察把他的睡袍递给他，平静地解释了正在发生的事。
The officer hands him his robe and calmly explains exactly what's happening.
是啊，因为劳拉好像不太配合，是不太配合吧？
Yeah, because I guess Laura's been a little bit uncooperative and they Uncooperative?
对，你可以去跟调查人员聊聊，好吧？
Yeah, you can talk to the investigators, okay?
他们那儿有所有细节。
They'll have all the details.
我们只是帮他们执行搜查令而已。
We're just helping them out with the service of the warrant.
罗恩起床时看着警察，提醒他小心劳拉。
As Ron gets out of bed, he looks at the officer and warns him about Laura.
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她基本上已经想死了。
She is basically suicidal.
这事一来，她就真撑不住了。
This will put her over.
她想自杀？
She's suicidal?
她提过几次。
She has mentioned it.
你别去搭话，她真会为这事寻短见的。
Don't be there and say anything because she she will commit suicide over this.
在那之前——
Before
警官还没跟罗恩说完，劳拉就被两名警察搀着进了屋。
the officer could finish his conversation with Ron, Laura comes into the house, guided by two officers.
你能看出来他们对她特别小心，用的是标准的护送握法——一只手抓手腕，另一只手托在肘部上方，既稳住她，又不让她乱动。
You can see they're handling her with extreme care, using what's known as an escort grip one hand on the wrist and the other just above the elbow to keep things controlled but steady.
看着不像用了什么过猛的力道，但劳拉觉得不是这么回事，而且她一点都没忍着。
It doesn't look like they're using excessive force, but Laura feels otherwise, and she's not quiet about it.
求你们了，你们弄疼我了。
Please, you're hurting me.
你们真的在弄疼我。
You are hurting.
不是这样的。
No.
你们要是换位想想就会懂。
You would.
你们真的弄疼我了。
You are hurting me.
他们从她爸爸卧室门口直接走过。
They pass right by her father's bedroom.
我想看看
I wanna see
我爸爸。
my dad.
手铐？
Handcuffs?
是的。
Yeah.
我就要这个。
That's what I want.
我想见我爸爸。
I wanna see my father.
为了一个房间。
For a room.
你弄疼我了。
You are hurting me.
我没有。
I'm not
我根本就没怎么碰你。
I'm barely touching you.
你干的事儿肯定会有报告，我向你保证。
And there's going to be a report for what you have I guarantee you confirmed.
我身上肯定会留下淤青。
I will have bruises from this.
我跟你保证。
I guarantee you.
我肯定会的。
I will.
劳拉，别这样。
Laura, come on.
我想见我爸爸，求你了。
I'd like to see my father, please.
你儿子是谁？
Who's your son?
劳拉。
Laura.
不，我不知道我妈妈在哪。
No, I don't know where my mom is.
我就在这儿。
I'm right over here.
劳拉一看到她妈妈简，就立刻慌张地冲了过去。
The moment Laura sees her mom, Jan, she frantically runs straight to her.
她说警察太糟糕、太不妥当，但2021年到2025年间，劳拉前后差不多二十次主动联系斯科茨代尔警方求助。
She says the police are horrible, inappropriate, but between 2021 and 2025, Laura reached out to the Scottsdale police for help nearly 20 times.
都是她自己主动报的案，说她遭到了骚扰、媒体泄露和禁令违规。
She was the one contacting them, saying she'd been the victim of harassment, press leaks and restraining order violations.
可现在形势反转，轮到她被调查了，她反倒觉得警察在场很不合适。
Now that the tables had turned and she was the one being investigated, Laura suddenly finds their presence inappropriate.
她哭着对妈妈说，她都不确定那些警察是不是真的。
She cries to her mother that she's not sure if the police are real or not.
我叫你是因为我说不清楚他们是不是真的。
I asked for you because I said I didn't know if they were real or not.
我真的到现在都不明白，他们居然全副武装对着我。
I really still don't even know they put all their guns drawn on me.
然后，劳拉彻底崩溃了。
And then Laura hits her breaking point.
她转过身，说出了那句在很大程度上定义了整个案件的话。
She turns and delivers the one line that, in many ways, has come to define this entire case.
你知道吗
You know
什么？
what?
我才七个月，我什么都没做，就只是跟那个该死的单身汉怀了孕。
It's not even seven I have done done nothing except get pregnant by the fucking bachelor.
明白吗？
Okay?
我又没去杀人，这能一样吗？
It's not like I've gone and killed somebody.
劳拉，劳拉，你去跟克莱尔说清楚。
Laura, Laura, you just talk to Claire.
注意啊，这段视频是2025年1月录的。
Now remember, this video was recorded in January 2025.
六个月前，法院已经判定克莱顿——那个单身汉——根本不是劳拉所谓双胞胎的爸爸。
Six months earlier, it had been adjudicated that Clayton, the bachelor, wasn't the father of Laura's alleged twins.
因为法官说，她根本就没怀孕，可她还是死咬着不放。
Because, according to the judge, she was never pregnant, but she's sticking with her story.
这时，劳拉听见爸爸拖着步子往屋里走，立马把注意力转到他身上。
Laura then hears her dad beginning to shuffle into the room and shifts her focus to him.
我得去帮帮我爸。
I need to help my father.
他根本站不起来。
He cannot get up.
我爸爸行动不便。
My dad is handicapped.
不行。
No.
他起不来。
He can't get up.
你别起来。
You don't get up.
我爸爸起不来，他在里面急得不行。
My dad can't get up, and he's all panicked in there.
他真的起不来。
He can't get up.
他有残疾。
He's handicapped.
你坐下来。
Have a seat.
别做那事。
Please do not do something.
不，他做不到。
No, he can't.
他打算帮他一把。
He's he's gonna help him with.
什么？
What?
他啥也干不了。
He nothing.
我可怜的爸跟这事儿完全没关系。
He has my poor dad has nothing to do with this.
能帮上忙。
Can help.
你们全给我滚蛋。
Fuck all of you guys.
认真的，你们都滚吧。
Seriously, fuck you guys.
这事儿太离谱了。
This is not cool.
我都说了，我现在早上七点。
I said, I'm at 07:00 in the morning.
不行。
No.
我知道。
I know.
就是啊
It's just
你搞得好像我杀了人似的。
You're acting like I murdered somebody.
你说得对，宝贝。
I agree, honey.
你能听到她妈妈简在安慰她，附和她的话。
You can hear her mom, Jan, comforting her, agreeing with her.
接着，劳拉对警察说了这句话。
Then Laura says this to the police.
是啊，你们看看你们干了什么？
Yeah, do you guys see what you've done?
你们真没意识到自己做了什么吗？
Do you see what you've done?
我的家人居然要承受这些？真的吗？
I mean, really, that my family is dealing with this?
当
As
她爸爸走进房间时，劳拉突然醒悟了。
her father walks in the room, Laura has a realization.
这一切都被录下来了。
All of this is being recorded.
这些人真让人火大。
Oh, fuck these people.
这简直太离谱了。
This is insane.
你知道吗？
You know what?
我敢打赌他们早就说了
Oh, I'm sure they they already told
他们
me they
有体戴摄像头。
had body cams.
我肯定他们会把录像交出来。
I'm sure they're gonna give
给我看那段视频。
me the footage.
不行。
No.
他得坐这儿。
He needs to sit in this.
要是这段录像公开了，里面还有我父亲，他们肯定得交出来。
-If this footage becomes public record with my father on it, they're -Please, gonna please have it.
那个一直骚扰我的团体马上就要——
-The group that is harassing me is going
就在一片混乱中间，出现了一个近乎荒诞的时刻。
-In to get the middle of the chaos, there's an almost farcical moment.
他们没去跟那12个特警沟通，反而跟警察争起来，说哪把椅子才适合罗恩坐。
Instead of addressing the 12 tactical officers in their living room, Laura and Jan start arguing with the police about which chair is best for Ron to sit in.
他不能坐那把椅子。
He can't sit in that chair.
好。
Okay.
等一下。
Wait one.
那个不行，带轮子的。
That one he can't use because it's on rollers.
行。
Okay.
你说那个椅子要坐多久？
How long do you say to use that chair?
哦，那个黑椅子。
Oh, the black chair.
黑椅子。
The black chair.
黑椅子。
The black chair.
罗尼，你就坐吧。
Ronnie, just sit
接着，劳拉有了另一个发现。
Then, Laura has another realization.
警察已经没收了她妈妈的手机。
The police have already confiscated her mom's phone.
哎哟，等等，等等，等等，等等。
Oh, woah, woah, woah, woah.
哎哟，等等，等等，等等，等等。
Woah, woah, woah, woah.
上面可没说你们能拿我妈妈的手机。
It does not say you guys can take my mom's.
根本没这规定。
It doesn't.
你能听出来，劳拉的声音开始慌了。
You can hear the panic rising in Laura's voice.
她突然变得特别担心，怕警察在她妈妈的设备上发现什么。
She seems suddenly, desperately concerned about what the officers might find on her mom's device.
警察给了她一份搜查令的副本，但她只是匆匆扫了一眼。
The police hand her a copy of the warrant, but she only glances at it.
行。
Okay.
我们确实看了。
And we read it.
是的，我刚看完。
Yes, I just did.
上面写的是搜查劳拉·米歇尔·欧文斯，可哪儿写着你们能拿我妈妈的手机？
On the person Laura Michelle Owens, where does it say you can take my mom's phone?
你花三分钟把
Take three minutes and read the
整份搜查令看完。
whole warrant.
然后你告诉我，你们能拿我妈妈的手机？
And it says you can take my mom's phone?
好好读，别随便扫两眼就完事。
Read it, don't just look through it.
那些警员根本没心思管他们拌嘴。
The officers aren't interested in the bickering.
他们只想推进流程，赶紧完成现场查封，好把这里移交给办案的调查人员。
They're just trying to move forward and finish securing the property so they can turn it over to the investigators.
我们现在是代表马里科帕县检察官办公室，正式执行这份搜查令。
So we're we're serving the search warrant on behalf of the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.
这个是
That's
写清楚的。
right.
法官阁下，我从头到尾都没看到哪条写了可以拿我妈妈的手机，您刚才说的依据在哪？
Your honor, I'm not seeing where it says But at what you say?
早上六点半？
06:30 in the morning?
天哪。
My god.
什么什么什么？
What what what
先生，根据法律规定，我们可以在早上六点半到晚上十点之间执行白天搜查令。
So, sir, so per statute, we can serve a daytime search warrant between the hours of 06:30 in the morning and ten at night.
这对我来说很重要，我必须亲眼看看。
And and this is important enough to me to see.
是的。
Yeah.
肯定有不少这样的情况发生。
There's I'm sure some of those happen.
你们在找什么？
What are you looking for?
他们是负责调查的人员。
So they they they are the investigators.
我们这儿的任务只是看守住现场。
Our role here was just securing the property.
调查人员才掌握所有细节，搜查令也是他们起草的。
So the investigators have all the details that they drafted the search warrant.
明白了。
Okay.
我们有调查人员在。
And the We have the investigators.
我这个……
I this.
没什么……
There's nothing
你们没权利
that says you guys can
搜我妈妈的手机。
search my mom's phone.
劳拉，你
Laura, you
还没看过呢。
haven't read it.
我看了的。
I did read it.
别跟我说你做不到。
Don't tell don't you tell me you can't.
我没看。
I didn't read it.
哪儿写着你们能搜我妈妈的手机？
Where does it show that you can search my mom?
劳拉，我跟你说过，搜查令不是我们起草的。
Laura, like I said, we did not draft the search.
但上面也没写你们能搜我妈妈的手机啊。
But it doesn't say you guys can search my mom's phone.
我根本没碰过你妈妈的手机。
I haven't gone from your mom's phone.
他们拿走了你的手机，你
They took your phone, you
说的。
said.
劳拉，你听我说。
Laura, just listen to me.
行吗？
Okay?
我们把手机放一边，不代表就在查它。
Just because we've set a phone aside doesn't mean that we're searching it.
天哪。
Oh my god.
这简直太离谱了
This is the most insane
我这辈子见过最离谱的事了。
thing I've ever seen.
我们这么做，只是因为把你们请到这里，不代表……
Just because we've done that, just like because we've put you guys in here
等等。
Wait.
那你们就不能……
So then you can't
你们到底在找什么？
What are you looking for?
这正是我想知道的。
That's what I wanna know.
先生，我真的得再三跟你们强调一下。
Sir, I I I can't tell you guys this enough.
我们没有在搜查你们的财产。
We are not searching the property.
负责起草这份搜查令、寻找案件证据的是马里科帕县检察官办公室。
Maricopa County attorney's office is the one responsible for drafting this warrant and searching for evidence for their case.
我们只是替他们暂时保护了现场。
We have merely secured the property on their behalf.
这段时间，调查人员一直站在几英尺外，随时准备进场工作。
This whole time, the investigators have been standing a few feet away, ready to get to work.
这些才是县检察官办公室的侦探。
These are the county attorney office detectives.
他们掌握着案件的全部情报和信息。
They have the intelligence and the information on the case.
你们有什么问题，他们可能能答，也可能不能答，这要看案件的严重程度或者他们在查什么，但真正掌握信息的是他们。
Any questions that you have, they may or may not be at liberty to answer based on the severity of the case or whatever they're investigating, but they are the ones with the information behind it.
我这边没有任何信息可以提供给你们。
I do not have any information to provide you.
尽管发生了这么多事，欧文斯一家还是死死盯着其中一个细节。
Despite everything else that is happening, the Owens family is still fixated on one detail.
他们一直纠结于时间点，反复问为什么警察早上七点前就来了。
They keep coming back to the timing, asking again why the police came before seven in the morning.
是的，先生。
Yes, sir.
我们可以在早上六点半执行搜查令。
We can serve a warrant between 06:30.
我当然知道规定，但难道这方面就不能有点灵活余地吗？
I already can, but I mean, isn't there a little bit of discretion about it?
我们没在讨论这个。
We're not we're not talking about it.
你是希望我们等到中午，让所有邻居都看见警察上门吗？
Would you rather we serve it at noon where all your neighbors see the police here?
哦，那倒不用。
Oh, yeah.
你真希望那样？
You would rather that?
天哪。
Oh my god.
对。
Yeah.
早上六点半，我爸妈那时候还在睡呢。
At 06:30 in the morning, Well, my parents are
我们这么做完全合法。
we're well within our within the law to do that.
明白吧？
Okay?
关于这个案子，你们有什么问题，可以问县检察官办公室的侦探们。
So any questions that you have pertaining to the case, the county attorney's office detectives can answer those.
警察把现场交给了调查人员，他们得费劲地搜查整栋房子找证据。
The police turn the scene over to investigators who have the cumbersome task of searching the house for evidence.
我觉得咱们跟你们这边还没打通通讯。
I don't think we have comms with you guys.
好的。
Okay.
要是你们需要我们到场，你们知道的，
If you needed us to respond, you know,
对。
Yeah.
901或者别的什么号码。
901 or whatever.
没问题。
Sounds good.
谢谢。
Thank you.
嘿，各位。
Hey, guys.
谢谢。
Thank you
非常感谢。
very much.
对。
Yep.
谢谢。
Thank you.
非常感谢你们的帮助。
Appreciate all your help.
再见。
Bye bye.
这段警用摄像头的录像到这里就结束了。
This is where the body cam footage ends.
除了执法人员和欧文斯一家，没人知道这次突袭发生过。
Apart from law enforcement and the Owens family, no one knew this raid happened.
克莱顿、他的律师，还有那些网络侦探，全都不知道。
Not Clayton, his lawyer, or any of the online detectives.
接下来的三个月，外界看起来调查劳拉·欧文斯的事好像没什么进展。
Three months passed where, on the outside, it looked like not much was happening with the investigation into Laura Owens.
直到2025年4月23日的一场新闻发布会才有了转机。
That was until a press conference on 04/23/2025.
一位当地记者直接质问马里科帕县检察官，问她调查进行得怎么样了。
A local reporter put the Maricopa County attorney on the spot and asked her about the status of the investigation.
蕾切尔·米切尔是怎么回应的？
Rachel Mitchell's response?
我的意思是，我们还在积极调查中。
I mean, we are still actively investigating it.
我只能说，大家继续关注吧。
What I will simply say is stay tuned.
那场发布会两周后，劳拉·欧文斯的情况彻底变了。
Two weeks after that press conference, everything changed for Laura Owens.
今晚我们首先关注一起涉及前《单身汉》参赛者的亲子鉴定案的新进展。
And we begin tonight with new developments in the paternity case involving a former bachelor contestant.
马里科帕县突发新闻：劳拉·欧文斯已被起诉诈骗罪。
Breaking news at Maricopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.
欧文斯被指控篡改超声波图像、在法庭上作伪证，并伪造怀孕视频，涉嫌诈骗。
Owens is accused of altering an ultrasound image lying under oath and fabricating a pregnancy video as part of her alleged scheme.
至于艾克特，他这两年来打的这场仗，现在交到检察官手里了。
As for Eckert, the battle he's been fighting for two years is now in the hands of prosecutors.
男人这辈子有两条铁律得记牢。
There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
第一条：千万别招惹乡下姑娘。
Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
你玩花招，就别怪吃哑巴亏。
You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
第二条：
And rule two,
她朋友也别碰。
never mess with her friends either.
我们一直都得信自己的闺蜜团。
We always say that trust your girlfriends.
我是安娜·辛菲尔德。
I'm Anna Sinfield.
欢迎来到
And in
《闺蜜视角》的全新一季
this new season of The Girlfriends
我的天呐。
Oh my god.
就是同一个人啊。
This is the same man.
一群
A group
女的发现她们全都跟同一个惯骗交往过。
of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
我感觉自己像被卡车撞了一样。
I felt like I got hit by a truck.
我心想，这种事怎么可能会发生在我身上？
I thought, how could this happen to me?
警察根本不当回事，她们只好自己动手了。
The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands.
我当时就说：这事儿没门。
I said, oh, hell no.
我发誓。
I vowed.
他再也不能害别人了。
I will be his last target.
他早晚得付出代价。
He's gonna get what he deserves.
收听《Girlfriends》播客《Trust Me Babe》，在 iHeartRadio 应用、Apple 播客，或者你常用的任何播客平台都能找到。
Listen to the Girlfriends, Trust Me Babe, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
大家好啊！
What's up, everyone?
我是埃戈·博达姆。
I'm Ego Bodham.
接下来这位嘉宾，你们肯定熟悉——《超级名模》《安可曼》《周六夜现场》，还有《大钱玩家网络》的威尔·法瑞尔。
My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network, it's Will Ferrell.
我的
My
我爸给过我最棒的建议。
dad gave me the best advice ever.
有天我去跟他吃午饭，就跟他说：‘爸，我想认真拼一把。’
I went and had lunch with him one day, and I I was like, and dad, I think I wanna really give this a shot.
我也不太清楚那具体什么意思，但我就是知道Groundlings。
I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
我想一步步往上走，我知道那儿是专门发掘新秀的地方。
I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent.
他说，如果光看天赋的话，我根本不用为你担心，这话真暖心。
He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
是的。
Yeah.
他还说，这行里运气占的比重太大了。
He goes, but there's so much luck involved.
他就让我别想太多，先去试试看。
And he's like, just give it a shot.
他说，但如果你哪天干得头都快撞墙了，一点乐趣都没有了，那放弃也没关系。
He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
要是写成励志格言，根本没人会信。
If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspir it would
不应该是
not be
那种‘猫都坚持住’的日历标语。
on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there.
是的
Yeah.
不会是那样
It would not be
对
Right.
不会是那种情况
It wouldn't be that.
运气成分挺大的
There's a lot of luck.
对
Yeah.
去 iHeartRadio 应用、Apple 播客或者你常用的播客平台收听 Thinkstat 吧
Listen to Thinkstat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
大家好
Hi, everyone.
我是谢丽尔·斯特雷德，《走出荒野》和《微小的美丽事物》的作者。
I'm Cheryl Strayed, author of wild and tiny beautiful things.
我很兴奋地告诉大家，我新开了一档播客，叫《心过群山》。
I'm excited to share that I have a new podcast called mind over mountain.
每期节目里，我会采访运动员、冒险家和极限爱好者，聊聊那些塑造并激励他们完成非凡壮举的内心世界和人生经历。
In each episode, I interview athletes, adventurers, and adrenaline seekers to discuss the inner landscapes and life experiences that informed and inspired their extraordinary feats.
我也会加入一些实用的建议，帮我们更好地理解如何面对自己生活中看似无法逾越的难关。
I also bring a bit of advice into the mix so we too can better understand how to face our own seemingly insurmountable challenges.
你知道我打算干嘛吗？
Do you know what I'm gonna do?
我就把你心里本来就有的东西挖出来。
I'm gonna pull out what you already have inside.
我们来到这个世界，从一开始就在为生存拼命。
We're coming into this world fighting for our lives.
我做的，不过是把你心里本来就有的东西掏出来而已。
All I'm gonna do is pull out what you already got inside.
我们聚在一起是为了互相支持、互相鼓劲，这不是谁的故事比谁的故事更精彩。
We're there to support and celebrate each other, and that is not like a your story versus my story.
你一定能一步步走上山顶，翻过那座山。
You're gonna walk up and over that dang mountain.
你不是光靠想就能越过它。
You're not just gonna put your mind over it.
对。
Yep.
没错。
Yep.
就是这样。
Exactly.
如果我走不过去，我就穿过去。
And if I can't walk up and over it, I'm gonna go through it.
每周四记得收听《Mind Over Mountain》，在iHeartRadio应用、Apple播客，或者你常用的任何播客平台都能找到。
Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
嘿，赚钱的朋友们。
Hey, earners.
最近咋样？
What's up?
听好了。
Look.
钱是我们每个人都得面对的东西，但财商才是把收入变成真正财富的关键。
Money is something we all deal with, but financial literacy is what helps turn income into real wealth.
在《Earn Your Leisure》这档播客里，每期我们都拆解那些让你真正懂钱、懂投资、懂创业的关键对话。
On each episode of the podcast, Earn Your Leisure, we break down the conversations you need to understand money, investing, and entrepreneurship.
从股票、房产，到信贷、做生意、代际财富，我们把那些复杂的金融概念，变成大伙儿都能听懂的真心话。
From stocks and real estate to credit, business, and generational wealth, we translate complex financial topics into real conversations everyone can understand.
说实话，大多数人压根没人教过钱到底是怎么运作的。
Because the truth is, most people were never taught how money really works.
但只要你搞懂了这套系统，就能开始在里面搭自己的东西了。
But once you understand a system, you can start to build within it.
这意味着拥有资产、更聪明地投资，不仅为自己，也为下一代创造机会。
That means ownership, smarter investing, and creating opportunities not just for yourself, but for the next generation.
如果你想学会如何积累财富、理解市场、像所有者一样思考，那《Earn Your Leisure》这个播客就是为你准备的。
If you wanna learn how to build wealth, understand the markets, and think like an owner, Earn Your Leisure is the podcast for you.
可以在 iHeartRadio 应用、Apple 播客，或者你常用的任何播客平台收听《Earn Your Leisure》。
Listen to Earn Your Leisure on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
2025年5月6日，新闻爆出劳拉·米歇尔·欧文斯被起诉七项刑事罪名。
On 05/06/2025, the news broke that Laura Michelle Owens had been indicted on seven criminal charges.
一位曾指控前《单身汉》选手让她怀孕的斯科茨代尔女子，如今被控诈骗。
A Scottsdale woman who previously accused a former bachelor contestant of impregnating her is now indicted on fraud charges.
这项调查持续了将近一年，起因是主审这起亲子关系案的高等法院法官，案件涉及前《单身汉》明星和一名叫劳拉·欧文斯的女子。
It was almost a year long investigation sparked by a superior court judge presiding over this paternity case involving the former bachelor star and a woman named Laura Owens.
大陪审团对她提起多项重罪指控，包括诈骗、伪造、伪证和销毁证据。
The grand jury indicted her on several felony counts, including fraud, forgery, perjury, and tampering with evidence.
县检察官办公室表示，欧文斯为了操控艾克德，简直不择手段。
The county attorney's office says Owens went to extreme lengths to manipulate Eckerd.
经过两年的法律拉锯战，艾克德现在等着检方接手了。
After a two year legal battle, Eckard is ready for prosecutors to take over.
欧文斯发表声明说，她对这些指控感到震惊，坚持自己确实怀孕过，只是后来流产了。
Owens released a statement saying she is stunned by the charges and maintains that she was in fact pregnant, but had a miscarriage.
她觉得之所以被起诉，完全是外界施压的结果。
She believes she was only charged because of public pressure.
欧文斯的首次出庭定在5月29日。
Owens has her arraignment hearing set for May 29.
从头就开始关注这件事的网友们都炸锅了。
The online community who'd been following this story from the beginning was freaking out.
戴夫·尼尔甚至在棒球赛现场直接开了直播。
Dave Neal even went live while at a baseball game.
惊天大新闻，简直不敢信。
Unbelievable breaking news.
我们刚得到的消息。
We just found out.
劳拉·欧文斯被控欺诈。
Laura Owens charged with fraud.
七项罪名。
Seven counts.
真是让人难以置信。
Unbelievable stuff.
正义终于得到了伸张。
Justice is served.
这次，她终于摊上大事了。
Now for the first time, she's in trouble.
她现在面临七项重罪指控。
She has seven felony counts against her.
劳拉·欧文斯被起诉七项重罪。
We have a seven count indictment, seven felonies for Laura Owens.
如果你还没听说，她这回彻底完了。
If you didn't get the news, she's going down.
对于那些被劳拉·欧文斯直接伤害过的人来说，这个消息掀起了强烈的情感波澜。
For those who'd been personally affected by Laura Owens, the news brought an intense wave of emotion.
这是迈克·马里奇尼的说法。
Here's Mike Maricini.
我记得清清楚楚我当时在哪儿。
I know exactly where I was.
我正和家人度假呢。
I was on vacation with my family.
我们在酒店房间里，所以那个场景我印象特别深。
We were in a hotel room, So I remember the setting.
我看见两个女儿瘫在沙发上看着卡通片，然后突然看到她被起诉的消息。
I remember seeing my daughters both on the couch watching cartoons, and I saw that she had been indicted.
我立马给那两个哥们儿发了消息，又紧紧抱住了我老婆。
But I remember immediately texting both of the guys and giving my wife a big hug.
这是迈克的妻子丹妮尔。
Here's Mike's wife, Danielle.
我们终于被看见了，我们的痛苦。
We were finally seen in our pain.
有人告诉你‘我相信你’，就这么一句话，什么都不用再多说，那种天然的疗愈力量真的很强。
Just the innate healing that comes from somebody telling you that they believe you, just that, nothing else, is powerful.
感觉特别不真实，我就觉得正义终于站起来了。
It was surreal because I felt like justice was finally prevailing.
克莱顿的律师格雷格·伍德尼克也记得他听到这个消息的那一刻。
Clayton's attorney, Greg Woodnik, also remembers the moment he heard the news.
我当时在车里，刚从办公室回家。
I was in my car on the way home from my office.
接到个电话，说她被起诉了。
I got a phone call telling me she'd been indicted.
她被起诉，我一点不觉得遗憾。
I was certainly not disappointed that she was indicted.
我并不希望劳拉垮掉。
I don't wish Laura a downfall.
我甚至不希望她坐很久的牢。
I don't even wish her a lengthy prison sentence.
我一直希望她能接受帮助，承认自己做过的事，但她被起诉这件事真的意义重大。
I've always wanted her to get help and acknowledge what she did, but her being charged was a big deal.
克莱顿从健身房回家的路上，接到了一家本地新闻台记者的电话。
Clayton was walking home from the gym when he got a call from a reporter at a local news station.
是她告诉克莱顿，劳拉被起诉了七项重罪，全都跟他案子有关。
She's the one who told him Laura had been indicted on seven felony counts, all related to his case.
我发消息告诉了那帮兄弟，他们简直炸了。
I texted the guys, and they're going ballistic.
突然间，我开始收到其他人的消息，然后我就直接上了Instagram。
And all of sudden, I started getting more messages from other people, and then I went straight to Instagram.
这是克莱顿当天发的内容。
Here's what Clayton posted that day.
正义终于得到了伸张。
Justice is finally served.
我太激动了，得跟大家说个重磅消息——就在大概二十分钟前，马里科帕县检察官瑞秋·米切尔正式宣布，对劳拉·米歇尔·欧文斯提起刑事指控，涉及她策划的亲子欺诈案。
I am absolutely amped to share this news with you all that today, as of, like, I think twenty minutes ago, Maricopa County attorney Rachel Mitchell has announced the indictment of Laura Michelle Owens on felony charges related to
的
the
亲子欺诈案。
paternity scheme.
一项二级重罪：欺诈计划；一项四级重罪：伪造文件；四项四级重罪：伪证；还有一项六级重罪：篡改物证。
One count of fraudulent schemes, a class two felony, one count of forgery, a class four felony, four counts of perjury, a class four felony, and one count of tamper ing with physical evidence, a class six felony.
这场噩梦终于结束了。
This nightmare is over.
我再也不想操心这破事了。
I am so ready to not have to think about this anymore.
真心感谢瑞秋·米切尔和所有调查人员，还了我们一个公道。
I wanna say thank you to Rachel Mitchell and the investigators for serving up justice.
也谢谢我的律师们。
I wanna thank my lawyers.
他们一直站在我这边，简直太棒了。
Oh, they've been incredible standing by my side.
如果没有格雷格·伍德尼克和他整个出色的团队，这事根本走不到这一步。
This wouldn't have gotten to this point if it wasn't for Greg Woodnik and his entire incredible team.
这下终于松了一口气。
And this is just such a weight lifted off.
我正看着来自其他几位兄弟的消息呢。
I'm really looking at messages coming through right now from the other guys.
我们真的非常感激，谢谢大家的支持。
We are so, so thankful, and thank you all for your support.
我从来没这么开心过——两年的重担终于从我肩上卸下，也终于从前面那些兄弟们肩上卸下了。
I have not been this happy as to say wait of two years lifted off my shoulders of these guys before me, years lifted off their shoulders.
感觉真好。
It feels good.
我让伍德尼克解释一下对劳拉的重罪指控。
-I asked Woodnik to explain the felony charges against Laura.
在亚利桑那州，重罪分六个等级，一级最重，六级最轻。
-In Arizona, we've got six levels of felony, with a class one being the highest level of felony and class six being the lowest.
针对劳拉的第一项指控是二级重罪，罪名是欺诈阴谋和诈骗。
Count one against Laura is a class two felony, charging her for fraudulent schemes and artifices.
二级重罪是非常严重的指控。
The class two felony is a very serious felony charge.
另外还有六项重罪指控，涉及伪造、伪证和篡改物证。
Then there were six more felony counts for forgery, perjury, and tampering with physical evidence.
像伪证这种重罪指控，非常罕见。
Charges like felony perjury are very rare.
我处理过不少在法庭上说谎的案子，但从来没遇到过像劳拉这样一路硬撑到底的，更没见哪个案子最后演变成这种级别的重罪起诉。
I've dealt with some challenging issues in people that have struggles telling the truth in a courtroom, but I've never seen someone go the distance that Laura did, and I certainly have never seen a case result in this sort of felony prosecution.
我觉得她被起诉，就是因为她的行为实在太恶劣了。
The reason why I believe it was prosecuted is because the behavior was so egregious.
我从没见过这么恶劣的行为。
I have never seen such egregious behavior.
但劳拉根本不觉得自己的行为有多过分。
Laura, however, didn't see her actions as egregious.
恰恰相反。
Quite the opposite.
indictment公布后的第二天，她就发布了一份正式声明予以回应。
The day after the indictments were handed down, she fired back with an official press release.
下面是一段由配音演员朗读的声明内容。
Here is a portion of that statement read by a voice actor.
我这辈子从来没被指控过任何罪行，所以对马里科帕县检察官办公室对我提出的七项重罪指控感到震惊。
As someone who has never been charged with a crime in my life, I am stunned by the seven felony charges announced against me by the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.
这些指控显然是在我对前《单身汉》明星克莱顿·艾卡德提起亲子诉讼后，有人有组织地抹黑、散布虚假信息、煽动公众舆论的结果。
These allegations appear to be the result of coordinated harassment, mis information, and public pressure in the aftermath of the paternity case I filed against former Bachelor star Clayton Eckard.
这些指控更像是公众情绪施压的产物，而不是公正的司法判断。
These charges appeared to be the product of intense public pressure, not impartial judgment.
这反映出一个被网络愤怒牵着走、无视程序保障、只凭舆论叙事而非事实推进的系统。
They reflect a system that responded to online outrage, ignored procedural protections, and moved forward based on narrative rather than fact.
很难不觉得，这一切是为了抹黑我、打压我，拿我当典型。
It is difficult not to see them as part of a broader effort to discredit me, discourage me, and make an example out of me.
我打算正面迎战这些指控，整个过程我都会全力以赴、毫不退让地为自己辩护。
I intend to meet these accusations head on, and I will defend myself fully and relentlessly through every step of this process.
针对劳拉的指控都不涉及暴力，所以她没被逮捕。
The indictments against Laura are considered nonviolent, so she wasn't arrested.
她只是收到了传票，要求她5月29日出庭受审，但她提前两天主动去自首了。
Instead, she was served a summons to appear in court for her arraignment on May 29, but she chose to self surrender two days early.
这很可能是为了向法官展示她的配合态度，争取在审判前不用交保释金就能获释。
This was likely a strategic move to demonstrate her cooperation to the judge and secure a release without bail until her trial.
劳拉在5月27日正式完成了登记手续。
Laura was officially processed on May 27.
她的逮捕照一公开，网上Reddit的网友就炸锅了。
And once her mugshot went public, the online Reddit community had plenty to say about it.
你懂的，她为这张逮捕照可没少花心思打扮。
You know she spent hours on her mugshot look.
她明明想装出一副可怜相，结果看起来还挺得意的。
Feels like she's trying to pull off a sad face, but still comes across looking smug.
谁会去特意涂唇膏、丰唇去拍拘留照啊？
Who plumps and glosses lips for a mugshot?
真是服了。
WTF.
厉害了。
Wow.
看到这一幕，真是意味深长。
Seeing this is a real sign.
希望正义和问责终会到来。
Justice and accountability will hopefully be coming.
两天后，劳拉出庭了。
Two days later, Laura had her arraignment.
跟往常一样，她是远程出庭的。
Per usual, she appeared virtually.
本案是法院今天排第一的案子，亚利桑那州诉欧文斯，案号CR20256831001。
This is number one on the court's calendar, state of Arizona versus Owens, CR20256831001.
女士。
Ms.
欧文斯女士，能请您报一下全名和出生日期吗？
Owens, would you please state your full name and date of birth?
劳拉·米歇尔·欧文斯。
Laura Michelle Owens.
法官之前已经收到了劳拉的认罪答辩。
The judge had already received Laura's plea.
今天上午，法庭将为被告就全部七项指控统一录入无罪答辩，并注明这是每项指控的首次出庭。
This morning, the court will enter pleas of not guilty on behalf of the defendant as to all counts one through seven, noting that this is the initial appearance on each of those counts.
接着，法官设定了劳拉的保释条件。
Then, the judge set Laura's release conditions.
女士，您将获准以个人具结释放。
The defendant will be released on her own recognizance, ma'am.
这意思就是，你得保证参加所有未来的庭审。
What that is, is your promise to attend all future court hearings.
你现在不需要交保释金。
You don't need to post a bond at this time.
但如果你没正当理由缺席任何一次庭审，法院可能会签发逮捕令，把你抓起来后，还得交了保释金才能放人。
However, if you fail to appear for any of your future court hearings, absent good cause, court could issue a bench warrant for your arrest and require that you post a bond if you are taken into custody before you can be released.
法院还会下令，你不得主动联系任何指控人或证人。
Court will also order that you not initiate any contact, with any alleged complainant or witness.
至少在没得到许可前，你不能离开这个州。
You're not to leave the state, at least not without permission.
看来你已经录完指纹了。
Looks like you've already taken care of your fingerprints.
好的。
Alright.
谢谢。
Thank you.
女士
Ms.
欧文斯女士，您可以挂断了。
Owens, you're free to disconnect.
劳拉挂断后，倒计时就开始了。
After Laura disconnected, a clock started ticking.
她被起诉，并不等于她被定罪。
Just because she was indicted does not mean she was convicted.
这一点很重要。
That's an important distinction.
就像我们刚才听到的，劳拉认的是无罪。
And as we just heard, Laura pled not guilty.
所以接下来，她有几个选择。
So going forward, she has a few options.
要么去庭审，努力证明自己无罪；要么改认有罪，承认检方指控的罪行。
Either go to trial to try to prove her innocence or change her plea to guilty and admit to the crimes the state charged her with.
这是克莱顿的律师，格雷格·伍德尼克。
Here's Clayton's attorney, Greg Woodnik.
如果她选择去审判，我希望劳拉能获得最公正的刑事审判。
If she chooses to go to trial, I hope Laura gets the fairest criminal trial she can get.
我希望她能抽到一群中立、愿意客观看待证据、正确适用法律的陪审员。
I hope she gets a wonderful jury of neutral people who wanna be open minded about the evidence and apply the law appropriately.
每个人都有权获得公平的陪审团审判，如果她决定走这条路，她完全有这个权利。
Everyone deserves a fair jury trial, and she's entitled to that in her criminal case should she choose to pursue that.
去审判就意味着把所有事情都摊到台面上。
Going to trial would mean dragging everything to light.
起诉书里对每项指控只给了很少的细节，比如‘在宣誓作证时声称那个超声波图像属于她’。
The indictments only gave a few small details about each charge, like, quote, claiming that sonogram image was hers during sworn deposition.
到底是哪个超声波图像？检方有什么证据证明那不是劳拉的？
Which sonogram in particular or the evidence the state had that it wasn't Laura's?
谁都不知道。
No one knew.
但有些内容创作者，比如Reality Steve，早就猜过。
But some of the content creators, like Reality Steve, had guesses.
我们知道那个B超是假的，但没人当面问过她。
The sonogram that we know is fake, but no one's had to ask her.
Laura从来没接受过我或者Dave，或者任何人的采访。
Laura's never done an interview with me or Dave or anybody.
Laura，我们找到那个B超了。
Laura, we found the sonogram.
你是从YouTube上偷来的。
You stole it from YouTube.
可你当初发邮件给我时还说，Steve，这可是我怀孕的证据。
Even though when you emailed it to me, you said, Steve, this is my proof that I'm pregnant.
大约一个月后，检方公布了证人名单，足足有64个人。
About a month later, the state released its witness list, which was 64 names deep.
如果Laura真的上庭，这些人都会被传唤作证。
If Laura goes to trial, these are the people who would be called to testify.
不出所料，这份名单里有克莱顿·埃卡德、迈克尔·马里奇尼和格雷格·吉尔克里斯皮。
As expected, the list features Clayton Eckard, Michael Maricini, and Greg Gillespie.
还包括一些熟面孔，比如劳拉的父母简·布莱克和罗恩·欧文斯，她妹妹莎拉，还有律师格雷格·伍德尼克和迪安德拉·阿雷纳，连内容创作者戴夫·尼尔也在里面。
It also includes some familiar names, like Laura's parents, Jan Black and Ron Owens, Laura's sister Sarah, attorneys Greg Woodnik and Deandra Arena, and even content creator Dave Neal.
但当时有些名字根本说不通。
But there were some names on there that didn't make sense at the time.
直到六个月后，州政府突然公布了一份长达118页的调查报告，详细披露了整个调查过程，解释了他们用来支持每一项重罪指控的证据。
That was until six months later when the state surprised everyone by releasing a public investigation report, a 118 page document detailing their investigation, explaining the evidence they'd found to support every felony count.
内容创作者们特别兴奋。
The content creators were especially excited.
天哪，这太震撼了。
This is, wow.
比我想象的还要离谱得多。
Way weirder than I thought it was gonna be.
明白吧？
Okay?
他们能登录劳拉的iCloud，找到一些东西。
They were able to go into Laura's iCloud and find stuff.
很多是调查期间做的访谈，其中有几次是采访克莱顿，还有一次是采访她妈妈。
A lot of them are interviews that they have done during their investigation, a couple of them with Clayton, one with her mother.
简，劳拉·欧文斯的母亲，曾试图偷偷约见调查人员。
Jan, the mother of Laura Owens, tried to have a secret meeting with investigators.
咱们开始吧？
Let's get into it, shall we?
这个啊，天哪。
This one, oh, boy.
赶紧泡杯茶。
Get your tea.
赶紧泡杯茶。
Get your tea.
这份调查报告，就像是官方把底牌亮出来了。
The investigation report is like the state showing their hand.
这里面包含了他们庭审时会用到的所有信息。
It's all the information that would be in their case at trial.
有些地方被删减了，但我们还是挖到了不少干货。
It's redacted in some places, but we learned a lot.
几乎什么都涵盖了，连一些我压根没想到能有答案的谜团，也都讲到了。
It addresses almost everything, including some mysteries I honestly never thought I'd see an answer to.
接下来是记者梅根·福克斯的采访。
Here's journalist Megan Fox.
天哪。
Oh my goodness.
内容太多了。
There's so much.
这里面有不少全新的料，你真得好好听听。
There are nuggets in here that are brand new that you really need to, you need to hear.
咱们来逐条看看马里科帕县检察官办公室的这份调查报告。
We're going to go through this investigation report from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.
我们请了一位配音演员来朗读这份报告。
We've had a voice actor read from the report.
顺便说一下，这可不是AI配音。
And just for the record, it's not an AI voice.
其实是我的丈夫，他声音特别有权威感。
It's actually my husband, who happens to sound very official.
我们还收录了劳拉本人在多个庭审中的真实录音。
We've also pulled in real clips of Laura herself from various court hearings.
咱们先说一个你可能早就猜到的小发现。
Let's start with a small revelation that you probably already saw coming.
还记得劳拉发给Reality Steve和Clayton的那个视频吗？视频里她爸罗恩躺在病床上，正摸着一个孕妇的肚子。
Remember that video Laura sent to Reality Steve and Clayton that shows her father Ron in a hospital bed, rubbing a woman's pregnant belly?
劳拉说视频里的人是她自己。
Laura claimed it was her in the video.
但根据这份调查报告：
But according to the investigation report:
在格雷格·伍德尼克——克莱顿·艾卡德的律师——的办公室进行的宣誓证词中，劳拉·欧文斯声称，那段视频里在病床上摸她肚子的人是她父亲罗恩·欧文斯。
During a sworn deposition at the office of Greg Woodnik, Clayton Eckard's attorney, Laura Owens testified to a video clip of her father, Ron Owens, in a hospital bed, rubbing her pregnant belly.
欧文斯坚持说视频里的人是她和她父亲，并补充说：
Owens maintained that this was her and her father by stating:
我爸爸在医院，他摸了我的肚子。
My dad's in the hospital and he touched my stomach.
但视频里根本看不到欧文斯的脸。
However, Owens' face was not visible.
调查过程中找到了原始视频，清楚显示，那个怀孕的人其实是欧文斯的妹妹萨拉·欧文斯·纳瓦罗。
The original video was located during this investigation, and it can be seen that Owens' sister, Sarah Owens Navarro, is the subject with the pregnancy.
我们还从同一份调查报告中了解到，那段原本没声音的视频，其实是有背景音的。
We also learned from the same investigation report that the video, which had no sound, actually has an audio track.
调查人员指出，视频里能听到劳拉和她母亲简·布莱克在背景中说话。
In it, investigators specify that Laura and her mother, Jan Black, can be heard talking in the background.
在6月10日的庭审上，你可能还记得，劳拉·欧文斯说她整个假怀孕期间只做过一次超声波检查，是在2023年7月于加州做的。
At the June 10 trial, you'll remember that Laura Owens said she only had one ultrasound during her alleged pregnancy, which was done in California in July 2023.
她承认用Adobe Acrobat修改了那份超声波报告上的地点、日期和姓名。
She admitted to altering the location, date, and name on that sonogram using Adobe Acrobat.
但整个过程中，她始终坚持那张超声波图是她自己的。
The whole time, she remained adamant that the sonogram itself was hers.
但根据调查报告
But according to the investigation report
劳拉·欧文斯在马里科帕县高等法院向法官朱莉·马塔作证时，就那张超声波图像作了虚假陈述，构成伪证。
Laura Owens committed perjury while testifying in Maricopa County Superior Court in front of Judge Julie Mata when she testified to a sonogram image.
欧文斯的律师问：
Owens' attorney asked,
你在加州做过超声波检查吗？
Did you have a sonogram done in California?
欧文斯回答说：
Owens responded by stating,
是的，我做过。
Yes, I did.
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