71. 冰淇淋集

这太傻了。

It's stupid.

你一次只需要一本书。

You only need one book at a time.

而且不管怎样，如果你手头有本正在读的书，你基本上可以随意处置它。

And anyway, if you've got the kind if you've got a book that you're reading, you can kinda do anything with it.

有本书的一个有趣之处在于，你可以用手把它弯来折去。

One of the fun things about having a book is that you can kind of bend it in your hands.

我挺喜欢读完一本书后，书变得有点旧旧的感觉。

I quite like it when I've when I finish a book, the book is, like, really sort of soiled.

就好像这本书陪我经历了一场冒险。

It's almost like it's been it's gone on like an adventure with me, that book.

它看起来和全新的样子完全不一样了。

And it's it doesn't look the same as when it was new.

我的意思是，拿到一本新书确实是种纯粹的享受。

I mean, it's it's an absolute pleasure getting a new book.

它简直完美无瑕。

It's, like, perfect.

几乎从未被人类的手触碰过。

It's been untouched by a human hand almost.

它很干净。

It's clean.

闻起来美妙极了。

It smells beautiful.

新书的味道真是无与伦比。

It's nothing like the smell of a new book.

简直太棒了。

It's just it's fantastic.

也许我有点...也许我对新书的气味有种奇怪的迷恋，但我知道不止我一个人这样。

Maybe I'm kind maybe I've got like a weird fetish about the way new books smell, but I know I'm not the only one.

我相信有成千上万的人也都喜欢新书的气味，你们说是不是？

I'm sure that there are hundreds of you out there who who love that smell of a new book, you know?

你打开书，闻到干净书页的气味，还有那崭新的印刷墨香，这真是一种美妙的体验。

You open the book, the the smell of the clean pages, the the fresh print on those pages, it's a fantastic thing.

然后你开始阅读，会在公交车上、火车上各种姿势地读。

Then you start reading it, and you're reading it in lots of different positions on the bus, on the train.

你总会随身带着它。

You kinda carry it.

它可能会被雨淋湿，或者你不小心把咖啡洒在上面。

It maybe gets a bit wet in the rain or you might spill coffee on it.

我以前真的用书拍死过昆虫。

I've actually killed insects with books before.

我正坐着看书时，有只苍蝇或蚊子在我周围嗡嗡飞。

I've been, like, sitting there reading and there's a fly or mosquito buzzing around me.

而书正是打死它的完美工具，啪的一下就行。

And the book is the perfect way to kill it and just, you know, bang.

你只需要用一本书就能搞定它。

You just get it with a book.

然后书页里还会留下死掉的虫子。

And then there's the dead insect in the pages somewhere too.

我觉得我以前也确实有把血弄到书上的经历。

I think I've I've actually bled onto books as well in the past.

比如溅上血迹啊，各种体液啊。

So, like, spilt blood, all sorts of bodily fluids.

我还对着书打过喷嚏，这些都会在你读完时赋予那本书独特的个性。

I've sneezed on books before, and it all contributes to the sort of character of that book when you've finished with it.

我喜欢这样的想法：当你读到一本书的一半时，已读部分的书页会留下一些手指触碰的痕迹。

I like the idea that when you're halfway through a book, the bits of the the pages that you've read are a little bit stained with, you know, just the marks from your fingers.

从书的侧面你就能看到这种变化。

You can see it on the side of the book.

就像已读的书页会有些微的污渍，而未读的部分依然崭新如初。

It's like slightly the the pages have a little stain on the ones that you've read, and the ones you haven't read are fresh.

那些页面还没有被触碰过。

They they haven't been touched yet.

我很喜欢这一点，书在阅读过程中会略微受损并形成独特的个性，比如出现折痕、卷边等等。

I quite like that, The fact that the book gets slightly damaged and develops a character, a physical character as you read it, and it gets creased and folded and so on.

我喜欢书籍的这种特质。

I like that about having a book.

这就像你与书之间的一种物理联系。

It's like a physical relationship you have with it.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

你和书之间的物理联系。

Physical relationship you have with a book.

不是那种意义上的物理联系。

Not that kind of physical relationship.

不是。

No.

但你知道我的意思。

But you know what I mean.

但用Kindle就不同了，它就像一个塑料制品，你得特别小心，因为你花了整整150英镑买它。

But with a Kindle, it's just like a plastic thing that you have to be really careful with because you spent, like, a 150 pounds on this thing.

你不能把它摔了。

You can't drop it.

你不能把它折了。

You can't fold it.

如果你这么做了，它就会坏掉，那就完了。

If you do, it's gonna break, and then that's it.

150英镑就打水漂了。

A 150 pounds down the toilet.

所以我讨厌带着亚马逊Kindle去海滩，或者带着iPad去海滩。

So and and I hate this idea of taking an Amazon Kindle to the beach or an iPad to the beach.

把高科技产品带到沙滩上，或者让它接触盐水，恐怕是最糟糕的用法了。

That's not the worst thing you can do with a bit of high technology is introduce it to some sand or maybe some salty water.

算了吧。

Forget about it.

这想法太荒谬了。

It's a ridiculous idea.

但大家都知道把书带到沙滩上沾到沙子，这反而是给书本增添了些许物理特质——它接触过沙粒、海风之类的东西。

But we all know that introducing sand to a book, you know, when you've got a book on the beach, it's just, again, just giving it that extra bit of physical character that it's been in contact with sand or wind or something.

这简直太棒了。

It's it's brilliant.

度假时带上一本真正的好书是无与伦比的体验，而且这本书在你度假阅读的过程中会悄然发生变化。

There's nothing like having a really good book with you on holiday, and the book kind of changes as you read it on that holiday.

是的。

Yeah.

我们都知道这是事实。

We all know that's true.

所以对我来说，Kindle和iPad都是奢侈品。

So the Kindle and the iPad for me, they're luxuries.

我不是说我不想要iPad。

I'm not saying I I don't want an iPad.

我真的很想要一个iPad。

I would love an iPad.

别误会。

Don't get me wrong.

我绝对想要一个。

I would absolutely love one.

但我知道那是一种奢侈品，是我其实并不需要的东西。

But I know that it's a luxury, something I don't really need.

我的意思是，给我一个平板就行了。

I mean, just give me a pad.

给我一个普通的平板就行了。

Just give me a normal pad.

我有脑子。

I've got a brain.

我有想象力。

I've got an imagination.

我有手指。

I've got fingers.

我很容易就能拿到一支笔。

I can easily get a pen.

事实上，这里就有一支笔。

There's a pen here, in fact.

我现在就带着一支笔。

I've got a pen with me now.

只要给我一个普通的本子，上面有纸，再给我一支笔和我的想象力就行了。

Just give me a normal pad with paper on it and a pen and my imagination.

如果有必要，我自己也能想出些有趣的东西。

I'll come up with some entertaining stuff for myself if I have to.

我的意思是，人类在没有iPad的情况下已经生存了数千年。

I mean, the human race survived for thousands of years without iPads.

我认为将来我们可能根本不需要它们也能过得不错。

I think we could probably be alright without without them in the future.

这属于奢侈品。

It's a luxury.

但说实话，我真的很想要一个。

But, you know, I would love one, to be honest.

我觉得它们确实非常棒。

I think they they are they are amazing.

我其实很好奇会发生什么。

I wonder what what's gonna happen, actually.

科技的未来会怎样？

What is gonna happen with the future of technology?

iPad 真正意义上只是迈向新方向的第一步。

The iPad is just like the first step in a new direction, really.

而这个新方向就是，我们能随时随地拥有互联网。

And that new direction is that we can just sort of have the Internet with us at all times.

现在你可以用iPad来做一些事情，比如你看到人们走在伦敦的街道上，手里拿着iPad。

And now you can use the iPad to do things like, you see people walking through the streets of London with their iPad.

过去我们常看到游客拿着地图，那种折叠式的地图，走在路上时把地图拿在面前。

You know, we used to see tourists with maps, you know, like folding maps and walking around with a map in front of them.

而现在，他们只需要一个iPad。

And now they've just got this iPad.

这就像是一个卫星导航系统，你知道的，卫星导航。

It's like a satnav, you know, satellite navigation.

他们可以一手拿着iPad在城里走来走去，它会告诉他们该去哪里、该做什么。

They can just walk around the town with the iPad in their hands, and it tells them where to go and what to do.

而且用不了多久。

And it won't be long.

我敢保证，Google地图很快就会变得极其先进。

I I guarantee it won't be long before Google Map becomes super advanced.

因为如果你用过Google地图，就会知道它还有Google街景功能。

Because if you've played around with Google Maps, you'll know that you also have Google Street View.

谷歌街景太棒了，因为你可以打开谷歌地图，点击正确的按钮，就能仿佛置身于你所查看的街道上。

And Google Street View is amazing because you can go onto Google Map, and if you click on the right button, you can actually be transported onto the street that you're looking at.

所以你可以去纽约。

So you can go to New York.

你可以在谷歌地图上前往曼哈顿，然后在街上漫步。

You can go to Manhattan on Google Maps, and you can walk down the street.

这太不可思议了。

It's incredible.

你还能看到实景图片。

And you can see pictures.

你可以放大和缩小。

You can zoom in and zoom out.

你几乎可以走遍纽约、伦敦、巴黎或东京等主要城市的每一条街道。

And you can walk down almost every street in in, like, major cities like New York or London or Paris or Tokyo.

这简直太惊人了。

It's absolutely amazing.

此外，像餐厅、博物馆或历史景点等有趣的地方实际上会在屏幕上的图片中被标注出来。

And as well as that, interesting places like restaurants or museums or historical places of interest are actually highlighted on on the screen, on the picture.

所以你可以点击那张图片，它会提供关于那个地点的信息。

So you can kinda click on that picture, and it'll give you information about that place.

可能是餐厅的评价、那家餐厅的菜单，或者你可以用来预订餐桌的电话号码。

Maybe it's a restaurant review, the menu for that restaurant, the telephone number you can use to actually call the restaurant in order to book a table there.

你几乎可以在互联网上完成所有事情。

You can kind of, like, do everything on the Internet.

我认为最终，谷歌街景将会变成实时的。

I reckon that eventually, Google Street View will will be live.

它真的会变成实时的。

It'll actually be live.

所以它不会只是一张图片，而会是连续的视频。

So it won't just be one picture, but it will be rolling video.

我的意思是，我现在都怀疑卫星是否已经能做到这一点了。

I mean, I wonder if that's possible with satellites even now.

你可以直接通过卫星视频查看一切，实时看到正在发生的事情。

You can just have, like, everything you could look at everything from satellites using video and just see real time live what's happening.

我觉得这很快就会实现，我们能用谷歌实时观察世界许多地方正在发生的情况。

I reckon that's gonna happen soon, that we'll be able to use Google to just observe many parts of the world just as they're happening live.

这将会太棒了。

That's gonna be amazing.

但还有另一件事，我曾经看过一个关于这个的电视节目，意思是，我们其实已经随身携带了非常高质量的高科技电脑。

But the other thing, and I saw a TV program about this once, is that eventually I mean, we we already carry around very high quality, like, high technology computers with us.

这些就是我们的iPhone之类的东西。

These are our iPhones and stuff.

最终，它们的处理速度会变得如此快，以至于我们做各种事情都不会有任何延迟。

Eventually, they'll become so good and so fast at processing that we'll just be able to do all sorts of things just without any time delay at all.

你可以想象一下，把一副太阳镜和你的iPhone屏幕结合起来，这就像一部超棒的iPhone，比如iPhone 19之类的，你知道的。

And if you can imagine, right, combining a pair of sunglasses with the screen on your iPhone, And this is like an amazing iPhone, like the iPhone 19 or something, you know.

把你的太阳镜，或者甚至隐形眼镜，和你的iPhone结合起来。

Combining your sunglasses with or maybe even contact lenses with your iPhone.

所以当你戴上这副太阳镜时，无论你在现实世界中看到什么，都会同步显示对应的互联网信息。

So you'll be able to put the sunglasses on, and there's across whatever you're looking at in the real world, you've also got the Internet version of that.

这样你环顾街道时，眼镜屏幕上就会弹出小箭头提示。

So you can look around look around the the street, and the eye you'll get little arrows that will pop up in your vision on the sunglasses.

每当你注视某物时，就会弹出维基百科之类的信息窗口为你介绍。

Whenever you look at something, you get a window from Wikipedia or something that will tell you information about it.

你只需要在手上的小控制板上点击按钮，就能直接拨打该地点的电话或查询相关信息。

And all you need to do is, like, maybe you might have a little pad on your hand, and you just click the buttons and it will allow you to make telephone calls to that place or or whatever, find information out about it.

人们会从你身边走过街道。

People will be walking down the street past you.

你只要看一个人，就能立即获取他们的Facebook资料。

You'll be able to look at a person and immediately get access to, like, their Facebook profile just by looking at them.

然后你可以点击那个人，加为好友或者查看他们的各种信息。

And then you could click on that person and and add them as a friend or just find out various bits of information about them.

我的意思是，其实通过蓝牙技术已经基本能实现这个功能了。

I mean, you can almost do this already using Bluetooth technology.

你知道吗，如果你有一台像任天堂DS这样的设备，一台任天堂3DS掌上电脑，你就可以用蓝牙找到和你同乘一辆公交车、也拥有任天堂DS的人。

You know, if you've got something like a Nintendo DS, a Nintendo three DS handheld computer device, then you can actually use Bluetooth to find people, like, let's say, on the same bus as you who also have a a Nintendo DS.

你可以向他们挑战玩《街头霸王2》，就在公交车上，和一个陌生人打一局游戏。

And you can challenge them to a game of, like, Street Fighter two on on the bus, and just a random person, you know, and you can just have a game with them.

最终，所有这些技术都会融合在一起。

This eventually, all of this stuff is gonna come together.

所以，我们走路时只需环顾四周，互联网就会像一张网一样覆盖在所有事物之上。

So we'll be able to just walk around and look at things, and the Internet will be, like, put you know, stretched over everything like a like a net and like an Internet.

然后我们就能直接使用谷歌地图提供的导航指引。

And then we'll we'll just be able to, like, you know, use the the directions that you get on Google Maps.

取而代之的是，你眼前会出现一个箭头，通过你太阳镜的屏幕就能看到。

Instead, you'll just have like an arrow in front of you that you'll be able to see through the screen on your sunglasses.

这个箭头会直接指向正确的方向。

The arrow will just point you in the right direction.

如果你想去找酒吧，就直接跟着箭头走，它会带你到目的地。

You know, if you wanna get to the pub, like, you just use the arrow and it'll point you where you're going.

这将会太棒了。

It's gonna be amazing.

这基本上就是矩阵。

It's it's basically the matrix.

最终，我们将无法分辨互联网和现实世界的区别。

Eventually, we won't be able to tell the difference between the Internet and the real world.

它们将会融合。

They're gonna combine.

谁知道呢？

And who knows?

最终，他们可能能够在你的大脑里植入某种技术，连接到大脑的电系统和神经系统，将互联网直接接入你的大脑，让你只需思考就能感知和做决定。

Eventually, they might be able to implant some technology inside your head that will connect with the electrical systems and and nervous system in your brain and actually connect the Internet to your brain so that you'll be able to feel and make decisions just by thinking about them.

那将会太棒了。

That that's gonna be amazing.

我的意思是，他们已经拥有了让你用思想控制电视的技术。

I mean, they've already got technology which allows you to use your TV with your thoughts.

所以，他们 somewhere 开发了一种东西，像是一个头戴设备，戴上后里面有个小摄像头，我认为是用来观察你的眼睛的。

So it's they they've something that's been developed somewhere, and it it's like a headset that you put on, and it has a little camera that I think that looks at your eyes.

当你看着电视时，只需想着换台，频道就会自动切换。

And as you're looking at the TV, you can just think about changing the channel, and the channel will change.

别问我他们是怎么做到的。

Don't ask me how they do it.

我今天在互联网上读到过这个，所以一定是真的。

I read about it today on the Internet, so it must be true.

这只是即将发生的一些疯狂事情的一个例子。

So it's just one example of the sort of crazy stuff that's gonna happen.

这将会是矩阵。

It will be the matrix.

这最终一定会发生。

That's eventually what's gonna happen.

我们可能只需要坐在沙发上，连接着互联网，就能做所有事情，比如环游世界、拜访他人，真正地体验一切。

And we'll probably be able to do everything, you know, just travel around the world, visit people, actually have a genuine experiences while we're just sitting down on the sofa connected to the Internet.

这在某些方面是个令人恐惧的想法，但同时也非常惊人。

It's quite a frightening thought in some ways, but also quite amazing, really.

这种技术带来如此多可能性的同时，也存在被用于不当目的的威胁，比如被用来剥削人们。

The frightening aspect of that is that when all this technology allows so many possibilities, there's the there's the threat that it's gonna be used for the wrong things, that it could be used to exploit people.

像身份盗窃这类事情已经发生了，人们把所有的个人信息都发布在Facebook上。

And that's already happening with things like identity theft and so on, that people put their all of their personal information onto Facebook.

我认为，你发布在Facebook上的任何内容都会成为Facebook的财产，我觉得是这样。

And I believe that anything you put on Facebook becomes the the property of Facebook, I think.

我不确定这一点。

I'm not sure about that.

我需要去查一下。

I need to check it.

所以，你别拿我这话当真。

So, you know, you can't quote me on that.

但我认为，如果你上传一段视频或一张照片到Facebook，那么Facebook实际上就拥有那段视频或那张照片。

But I think that if you upload a video or a photo onto Facebook, then Facebook actually owns that video or that photo.

那不属于你。

It's not yours.

他们还拥有你所有的个人信息，除非你设置了正确的安全选项，否则我认为他们可以使用这些信息。

And they also own all your personal information, which if unless unless you've, like, chosen the correct security settings, I think they can use that information.

他们实际上可以把这些信息发送给他人。

They can actually send it to people.

他们可以把这些信息卖给营销公司等等。

They can sell it to marketing companies and so on.

因此，始终存在一种风险，即你的个人信息会被用于对你不利的方式。

So there's always that threat that your personal information will be used in a way that's not necessarily good for you.

所以我们必须非常非常谨慎地对待互联网，以及它被使用的方式和我们上传的内容。

So we have to be very, very careful about the Internet and about the way in which it's used, the and and the content we put onto it.

我本人其实非常担心这个问题，因为我确实在网上发布了大量关于自己的信息，尤其是通过这个播客。

I actually worry about that quite a lot myself because, really, I I publish a hell of a lot of information about myself on the Internet, particularly through this podcast.

因为我坐在这里，谈论自己，描述一些关于我生活的私密细节。

Because I sit here and I kind of talk about myself, I describe details, like intimate personal details about my life.

你知道，其中一些内容可能是真的，也可能不是真的。

You know, some of them some of that stuff may be true, may not be true.

我所说的很多东西其实只是为了帮助你进行语言学习。

A lot of the things I say actually are just for the benefit of of the language learning that you're doing.

但我担心，会不会有人用这些内容来做不恰当的事？

But I worry, think, is someone gonna be able to use this for the wrong reasons?

如果他们真敢这么做，我会追着他们不放。

Well, if they try and do that, I will chase them.

这就像是连姆·尼森的那部电影。

It it it'll be like that Liam Neeson movie.

我觉得叫《飓风营救》。

I think it's called Taken.

如果他们敢有所行动，我会追捕他们，抓住他们，让他们付出代价。

And if they try and do something, I will hunt them down, and I will catch them, and I will make them pay.

好的。

Okay.

所以如果有人在听，如果世界上有人在想，我要利用卢克的信息窃取他的身份，偷走他的钱。

So if anyone out there is listening, if anyone in the world is thinking, I think I'm gonna use Luke's information and steal his identity and you and steal his money.

那么，别这么做。

Well, don't.

明白吗？

Alright?

因为我会来找你算账的。

Because I will come after you.

我会找到你，然后抓住你。

I'll find you, and I will get you.

明白吗？

Alright?

你知道我会怎么做吗？

You know what I'll do?

我会让你站起来。

What I'll do is I'll make you stand up.

对吧？

Right?

我会从后面一把拽下你的内裤。

And I'll I'll grab your underpants from behind.

我会紧紧拽住你的内裤，使劲往上拉，拉到你头上，这会严重伤害你的私处。

I'll grab grab hold of your underpants, and I'll pull them really hard all the way over your head, and that will hurt your your private parts a lot.

明白吗？

Okay?

所以别这么做。

So don't do it.

别打我身份的主意。

Don't mess with my identity.

说实话，偷我身份根本没什么意义，因为首先，你为什么要变成我？

To be honest, you'd there's not really any point stealing my identity because it's why would you wanna be me, first of all?

从我这儿你根本得不到什么好处。

There's not really much you can get from me.

我其实没什么钱。

I don't really have any money.

我不出名。

I'm not famous.

你对这一点再怎么强调都不为过。

You can't enough about that.

我不想给你什么灵感，但老实说，偷我的身份纯粹是浪费时间，我可以告诉你。

I don't wanna give you any ideas, but basically, it's a way it it would be a waste of time stealing my identity, I can tell you.

是的。

Yeah.

所以嘛。

So yeah.

科技。

Technology.

它很神奇，但也相当可怕，你不觉得吗？

It's amazing, but it's also quite frightening, don't you think?

我在想。

I wonder.

你知道吗，当你看科技在电影中的表现方式时，我们真的不信任科技，对吧？

You know, when you look at sort of the way technology is represented in movies, We don't trust technology, do we really?

如果你看看我们在电影中如何对待它的话。

If you see the way that we deal with it in in movies.

我最近看了威尔·史密斯主演的那部电影，《我，机器人》。

I recently watched that film with Will Smith, iRobot.

我不知道你们国家这部电影是不是叫别的名字，但简单来说，《我，机器人》的剧情是：威尔·史密斯扮演未来的一名警察。

I don't know if it's got a different name in your country, but basically in the movie, my my quick plot synopsis of I, Robot is Will Smith is a cop in the future.

对吧？

Right?

但他并不是那种普通的警察。

But he's not like a cop like all the others.

说真的，他就像个来自现在、普通的人，只是恰好生活在未来而已。

He's he's a kind of like a a to be honest, he's like a normal guy from from from now, from the present day, but he just happens to be in the future.

他挺普通的。

He's kind of normal.

他穿着皮夹克。

He wears a leather jacket.

他戴着一顶针织帽。

He wears like a a beanie hat.

他可能听九十年代的嘻哈音乐之类的。

He probably listens to like hip hop from the nineties or something.

你知道，他脑子里可能满是Public Enemy和A Tribe Called Quest的歌词。

You know, probably like has lots of Public Enemy and A Tribe Called Quest quotes in his head.

他热爱嘻哈和灵魂乐。

He loves hip hop and soul music.

他可能听鲍勃·马利的歌。

He probably listens to Bob Marley.

电影里的他就是这种人。

That's the kind of guy that he is in this movie.

而他周围都是来自未来的人。

And surrounding him are all these people from the future.

当然，他所生活的未来世界是一个冷酷无情的地方，由于所有事情都由机器人完成，效率极高，但却少了些人情味。

And of course, the future world that he lives in is a kind of cold, emotionless place where it's incredibly efficient because everything is done by robots, but somehow it's less human.

坦白说，这个世界更冷酷也更邪恶，因为他遇到的大多数人可能都是邪恶的，尤其是那些为大公司工作的人。

It's colder and and more evil, quite frankly, because most of the people that he meets are are are probably evil, particularly the ones who work for big corporations.

因为我们都知道，大公司天生就是邪恶的，从定义上来说就是邪恶的。

Because we know, don't we, that big corporations are just evil, naturally evil, just by definition.

如果它规模庞大、企业化、光鲜亮丽却缺乏人情味，而且...是的。

If it's big and it's corporate and it's shiny and it's not very human and and and yeah.

就是那种类型的东西。

That kind of thing.

那它就是邪恶的，对吧？

Then it's evil, isn't it?

同样地，如果是个机器人并且技术非常先进，那也注定是邪恶的。

And if also, if if it's a robot and it's very high technology, that's also gonna be evil too.

别问我为什么，但事实就是如此。

Don't ask me why, but it will be.

当然，我们发现威尔·史密斯作为一个普通的警察调查员，正在调查一起谋杀案，但其实那是一起自杀。

And of course, what we find is that Will Smith being this normal guy cop investigator is investigating a murder, but it it it was a suicide actually.

结果发现这是一起谋杀案，没错。

It turns out to be a murder, and that's right.

这起谋杀发生在一家机器人工厂。

It's a murder at a a robot factory.

猜猜怎么着？

And guess what?

工厂里的那些机器人，它们是邪恶的。

The robots in the factory, they're evil.

没错。

That's right.

它们为什么是邪恶的？

Why they're evil?

我们不知道。

We don't know.

为什么电影里的机器人都是邪恶的？

Why why are robots in movies evil?

真的没人知道。

No one really knows.

但它们确实是，对吧？

But they are, aren't they?

是的。

Yeah.

因为我们应该对科技感到恐惧和害怕，因为我们并不真正理解它。

Because we should we should be frightened and scared of technology because we don't really understand it.

我的意思是，大多数人并不真正理解科技。

I mean, most people don't really understand technology.

就我所知，我遇到的大多数IT专家也不懂。

As far as I can tell, most of the IT specialists I meet, they don't understand it either.

你想想看。

Think about it.

上次你电脑出严重问题时，那个IT人员真的知道问题所在吗？

The last time you had a serious problem with your computer, did the IT guy really know what the problem was?

他其实并不知道。

He didn't really.

他不知道。

He didn't.

他大概说了句，嗯，我觉得可能跟服务器有关。

He sort of said, well, I think it might be something to do with the server.

这到底是什么意思？

What does that even mean?

没人知道到底发生了什么。

No one knows what's going on.

科技发展下去，我们可能离《终结者》或《黑客帝国》里的场景只有几年之遥了。

Technology, we're we're probably only a few years away from, like, the Terminator or the Matrix.

那就是一个关键时刻，那时计算机变得如此智能，以至于真正发展出了自己的生存意识。

That's that point in the in time where computers become so intelligent that they actually develop their own sense of of survival.

然后它们会想，哦，对了。

And they think, oh, right.

好吧。

Okay.

我是个机器人，现在我的智能实际上已经超过人类了。

I'm a robot, and I'm actually more intelligent than people now.

所以，显然我必须做的就是变得邪恶，杀死所有人类。

So, obviously, what I have to do is become evil and kill all the people.

杀死所有人类。

Kill all humans.

这真的会发生吗？

Is that what's gonna happen?

我不知道。

I don't know.

也许机器人并不会变坏，为什么机器人不能变得善良呢？

It could be that robot why why isn't it that robots become good?

你知道吗，它们越聪明，就会越友善。

You know, the more intelligent they are they are, the more nice they are.

那为什么电影里不这么演呢？

That's why is why doesn't that happen in movies?

为什么我们看不到那些变得超级智能的机器人，对卢克说：早上好？

Why don't we get, like, robots who become super intelligent and say, good morning, Luke.

卢克，要来杯茶吗？

Would you like a cup of tea, Luke?

这样不是很好吗？

You know, that would be good, wouldn't it?

如果它们意识到，凭借所有这些超级智慧，世界上真正美好的东西其实就是一杯茶、一块蛋糕之类的东西。

If if they realized that with all their super intelligence, that basically all we want, all that's good for the world is is just cups of tea and cake and stuff.

这才是我想看的电影。

That's that's the movie I wanna see.

我想看一部电影，威尔·史密斯生活在未来，他喜欢鲍勃·马利，身边围绕着高科技机器人。

I wanna see a movie where Will Smith is in the future and he likes Bob Marley and he's surrounded by high technology robots.

它们都只是默默地为他做些好事。

And they all just sort of do nice things for him.

它们会带他的狗散步，给他泡茶，帮他洗车。

They they kind of take his dog for a walk, and they make him cups of tea, and they clean his car.

它们只是彼此之间做些善意的事。

They just do nice things to each other.

那样就很好了。

That would be that that's good.

机器人变得善良的可能性，和它们全都变得邪恶一样大，不是吗？

And that's just as likely to happen as all the robots becoming evil, isn't it?

也许并不是这样。

Maybe it's not.

不过，也许并不是这样。

Maybe it's not, though.

因为也许会发生的是，所有这些技术只会让人更容易受到剥削。

Because maybe what's gonna happen is that that that all this technology is just gonna make people more open to exploitation.

因为我们从历史中知道，对吧？从世界历史来看，我们在彼此善待方面并没有很好的记录，对吧？

Because we know from history, don't we, from, like, the history of the world, we don't have a very good record of being nice to each other, do we?

确实没有。

We don't.

坦白说吧。

Let's face it.

也许在过去几年里，我们还算不错。

Maybe in the last few years, we've been alright.

但在几百甚至上千年的历史中，人们一直彼此残害。

But for for for hundreds, thousands of years, people have been horrible to each other.

真的如此。

They really have.

想想奴隶制之类的事情吧。

Think of, like, slavery and stuff.

你知道，就像，那是在什么时候来着？

You know, like, back in when was it?

大概几百年前吧，真的。

Probably a few hundred years ago, really.

大概是在十七世纪左右，我们开始乘船四处航行的时候，那时候大英帝国正在扩张。

It's when we started to to sort of travel around by ship, say, probably around the seventeenth century, that kind of time, when we were when the British Empire, you know, was was growing.

我们当时真的很糟糕。

We were really bad.

我们在世界各地确实做过一些非常恶劣的事情。

We did some really bad things around the world.

大英帝国，我的意思是，你知道，我们当时非常擅长做这种事，但我们对人们确实做过一些可怕的事情。

The the British Empire I mean, you know, we were we were very good at doing it, but we we did some horrible things to people.

我能道个歉吗，说真的？

Can I just apologize, actually?

如果你是听众，比如你来自印度、非洲或世界上某些曾被英国殖民过的地区，他们基本上摧毁了你们的传统文化，甚至可能把你们国家的人抓去当奴隶。

If you're a listener to for example, if you're in, I don't know, India or Africa or some some part of the world where the British kind of colonized and basically sort of destroyed your culture, or maybe even, like, just took people from your country and turned them into slaves.

我能为此道个歉吗？

Can I just apologize for that?

因为那实在太糟糕了。

Because that was terrible.

当然，这不是我的错。

Obviously, it wasn't my fault.

我并没有参与那些事。

I didn't do it.

这甚至不是我父亲、或者我父亲的父亲的父亲的父亲的父亲的错。

It wasn't even like my dad's or my dad's dad's dad's dad's dad's fault.

但在历史的某个节点，这个国家的人们确实因为拥有更多船只而对其他国家的人民做了相当恶劣的事情。

But somewhere down the line, people in this country did some pretty bad things to other people in in other countries just because we had more boats, you know.

所以很抱歉。

So sorry.

对此深感歉意。

Sorry about that.

但总的来说，如果你回顾历史，就会发现人类彼此之间做过一些相当可怕的事情。

But just generally, if you look at the past, you'll see that people have done some pretty horrible things to each other.

也许当科技发展到允许人们控制他人生活时，这种情况还会继续发生。

And maybe that's gonna keep happening when when technology allows people to take control over other people's lives.

或许我们将会迎来另一种形式的奴隶制。

Maybe we'll just get another version of slavery again.

希望不会如此。

I hope not.

我认为我们必须要善待彼此，这一点真的非常非常重要。

I think it's really, really important that we have to be good to each other.

归根结底，这才是最根本的事情。

In the end at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.

我们只需要互相友善相待。

We just have to be nice to each other.

我们必须尝试理解彼此，保持同情心并友善相处。

We have to try to understand each other and be compassionate and be nice.

说实话，我很欣慰我们能够——或者说我很欣慰这期播客能得出这样的结论，尽管这些思绪有些杂乱无章，但核心就是：拜托大家，能不能对彼此友善一点？

I actually, I'm quite pleased that we've reached that I've reached this part of the podcast where the conclusion, I guess, to this rambling stream of consciousness is that please, please, please, please, can we be nice to each other?

我们能不能试着多理解对方一些？

Can we try to understand each other a little bit more?

让我们避免冲突吧。

Let's avoid the conflict.

让我们远离战争与争斗。

Let's avoid the war and the fighting.

让我们努力为彼此创造一个更美好的世界。

Let's try to make the world a better place for each other.

我们可以吗？

Can we please?

我们能不能试着去理解彼此？

Can we just try and understand each other?

不要试图互相毁灭。

Don't try and don't blow each other up.

愚蠢。

Stupid.

善待彼此。

Be nice to each other.

争斗、炸毁他人、试图统治世界是行不通的。

Fighting and blowing people up and trying to rule the world doesn't work.

唯一可行的方法是理解我们所有人都在同舟共济。

The only way it will work is if you understand that we all we're all in it together.

我们都共同生活在这个地球上。

We're all on this earth together.

我们都共享着这片空间。

We all share the space.

让我们尽量让一切变得轻松些。

Let's just try and make it easy.

可以吗？

Can we please?

好的。

Good.

我的意思是，我必须说这些，因为世界各地的人们无时无刻不在争斗，而且是为了一些荒谬的理由。

It's I mean, I have to say these things because all over the world, all the time, people are fighting, and they're fighting for ridiculous reasons.

我不会提及具体案例，但我想你明白我在说什么。

I'm not gonna mention any specific cases, but I think you know what I'm talking about.

人们为了各自的信仰而争斗。

People fighting over their beliefs.

你知道，当人们如此强烈地信仰某个特定的神或类似的东西时。

You know, when people believe so strongly in, like, I don't know, like a specific god or something.

他们信仰得如此强烈，以至于愿意为此杀人，甚至杀害别人的孩子。

They believe in it so strongly that they're willing to actually kill and kill people's children as a as a result of how strongly they believe in their god.

这是错误的。

That's wrong.

这其中存在着深层次的问题。

That's there's something deeply wrong about that.

我们知道，所有真正的宗教都宣扬和平。

We know that all the real, like, religions and things, they all preach peace.

因此，以宗教名义发动战争完全是荒谬和无稽之谈。

So waging war in the name of religion is complete nonsense and ridiculousness.

所以，请停止这样做吧。

So stop doing that, please.

那样会很好。

That would be nice.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

哇。

Wow.

我又谈到了战争、政治和杀害儿童的事情。

I I've ended up talking about war and politics and killing children again.

天啊，这也不是我第一次说到这个了。

God, this is not the first time I've ended up talking about that either.

现在，我们聊点别的吧。

Now, let's talk about something else.

也许我们可以聊聊冰淇淋。

Maybe we could talk about ice cream.

那是个好主意，对吧？

That would be a good idea, wouldn't it?

是的。

Yeah.

所以是冰淇淋。

So ice cream.

对吧？

Right?

天啊，我太喜欢冰淇淋了。

God, I love ice cream.

是不是很棒？

Isn't it great?

冰淇淋是个伟大的发明。

Ice cream is a good invention.

我不知道是谁发明的。

I don't know who invented it.

是意大利人发明的吗？

Was it the Italians?

我觉得可能是意大利人发明的。

I think it might have been the Italians.

我不确定是不是他们，但他们确实做得很好。

I don't know if it was them, but they certainly do it well.

而且冰淇淋是个好东西。

And ice cream is a good thing.

我们应该让世界上有更多的冰淇淋。

Let's let's let's have more ice cream in the world.

我知道它对健康不太好，但是拜托。

I know that it's kind of bad for your health, but come on.

拜托嘛。

Come on.

那又怎样？

So what?

你要知道，什么东西都对健康有害，不是吗？

You know, everything's bad for your health, isn't it?

我是说，我们最终都会死的。

I mean, we're all gonna die in the end.

不如在离开前好好享受一点冰淇淋。

We might as well enjoy a little bit of ice cream before we go.

你明白我的意思吗？

You know what I mean?

而且而且它有那么多种口味。

And and it has so many flavors.

你当然会选香草味。

You get vanilla, of course.

这不就是冰淇淋的默认口味吗？

That's like the the default flavor for ice cream, isn't it?

我不知道这会不会是第一个口味。

I wonder if that was the first flavor.

香草味是冰淇淋的第一个口味吗？

Was that the first flavor for ice cream?

我不知道。

I don't know.

但它确实是个不错的口味。

But it's certainly a good flavor.

香草味是最成功的口味，对吧？

It's the most successful flavor, isn't it, vanilla?

它就像标准一样，就像纸张里的白纸一样，香草味就是冰淇淋中的白纸，对吧？

It's like the standard it's like, you know, in terms of, let's say, paper, white paper, it's like the white paper of ice cream, isn't it, vanilla?

然后，当然还有巧克力、咖啡、草莓、树莓之类的，名单可以列很长。

And then, of course, you've got, like, chocolate and coffee and and strawberry and raspberry and I mean, the list goes on.

我的意思是，如果你去过意大利的罗马，你应该去一趟，因为那里美极了。

I mean, have you if you've I don't know if you've ever been to Rome in in Italy, but you should go because it's beautiful.

那是个绝佳的地方。

It's a fantastic place.

去罗马看看他们那儿的冰淇淋吧。

Go to Rome and check out some of the ice cream they've got there.

太棒了。

It's brilliant.

他们那儿有各种各样的口味。

They've got, like, all kinds of stuff.

有些地方甚至能买到各种奇怪口味的冰淇淋，比如泡泡糖味的冰淇淋之类的。

In in some places, can get ice cream for all sorts of crazy flavors like bubblegum flavored ice cream and stuff like that.

所以我们别再互相伤害了。

So let's let's stop killing each other.

我们不如互相买冰淇淋，让这个世界变得更美好。

Let's just buy each other ice cream and make this world a much better place.

我很高兴，这集《卢克英语播客》以这样的方式结束。

I'm happy that that's the conclusion of this episode of Luke's English podcast.

这一集讲的全是冰淇淋。

It's all about ice cream.

所以，如果我要给这集命名的话，我想会叫它‘冰淇淋特辑’。

So if you I'm gonna name this episode I I think I'm gonna call it the ice cream episode.

如果你一直听到最后，你就会明白为什么它叫‘冰淇淋特辑’了。

And if you've listened all the way to the end, then you'll understand why it's called the ice cream episode.

以上就是《卢克英语播客》的全部内容。

That's it from Luke's English podcast.

四十五分钟。

Forty five minutes.

谢谢。

Thank you.

再见再见再见再见再见。

Bye bye bye bye bye bye.

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