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各位听众,大家好,欢迎回到卢克的英语播客。
Hello, listeners, and welcome back to Luke's English Podcast.
这是我为全世界英语学习者制作的播客。
This is my podcast for learners of English all around the world.
欢迎收听本期节目。
Welcome to the show.
你今天过得怎么样?
How are you doing today?
希望你一切都好。
I hope you're doing fine.
那么,这一集,哇,这集肯定会很精彩。
So, this episode, wow, this is going to be a good one.
今天我给你准备了一集超棒的节目。
I've got a cracking episode lined up for you today.
这集是关于听众分享的真实鬼故事和未解之谜。
So, this is true ghost stories and unexplained mysteries from listeners.
在这一集里,我会朗读一些听众写来的故事。
In this episode, I'm going to read out some stories written by listeners of this podcast.
我要读的这些故事都是之前我发起的一个写作比赛收到的投稿,那个比赛是很久以前的事了。
All the stories I'm going to read out here were sent to me as part of a writing competition, which I launched ages ago.
比赛暂停了几个月,但终于,现在它来了。
The competition was put on hold for a few months, but finally, here it is.
你还记得这个吗?
Now, do you remember this?
在今年早些时候的第984期节目中,我采访了作家安娜·布鲁克,她跟我们讲了她家里发生的一些极其奇怪的事情。
In episode 984, earlier this year, I spoke to author Anna Brooke, and she told us about some extremely strange experiences she had in her home.
她认为那些都是超自然现象,包括她所住楼里一些死于悲惨遭遇的人的鬼魂来访。
She believes they were paranormal experiences, including visitations by the spirits of people who lived in her building and who died in tragic circumstances.
你还记得那期节目吗?
Do you remember that episode?
所以,那些经历就成了她最新一本书的灵感来源。
So, those experiences were the inspiration for her latest book.
说实话,那是一本给孩子看的趣味书,并不吓人,但灵感确实来自她亲身经历的那些事,那些事给她留下了很深的印象。
Now, admittedly, it is a fun book for children and not really scary, but the inspiration came from these things which she really experienced and which left quite an impression on her.
在那期节目里,安娜跟我们详细讲了这些事,而我本人对超自然现象其实是个挺怀疑的人。
In the episode, Anna told us all about it, and I personally am a sort of a skeptic really when it comes to paranormal things.
但尽管如此,我实在无法解释安娜经历和描述的那些事情。
But nevertheless, I don't know how to explain the things that Anna experienced and described.
如果你想听她聊聊那些事,可以去听听第984期节目。
Check out episode 984 if you'd like to hear her talking about those things.
不过话说回来,是的,她确实从那些经历中获得了灵感,写了她的下一本书。
But anyway, yes, she was inspired by some of those things to write her next book.
她是写儿童书的。
She writes books for kids.
所以,这本书叫《巧克力之死》,适合大约8到12岁的孩子阅读。
So, this book in question is called "Death by Chocolate," and it's appropriate for children aged around 8 to 12 years old.
这本书更多是趣味性而不是恐怖,是一种侦探悬疑故事,你的孩子会非常喜欢的。
It's more fun than scary, and is a sort of detective mystery that your children will enjoy very much.
我女儿很喜欢这本书,尤其是那种自己推理出谁是凶手的感觉。
My daughter loved it, especially the sense that she was working out who had committed the crime.
这是一本儿童谋杀悬疑故事。
It's a sort of murder mystery story for children.
但它的灵感确实来自安娜亲身经历的一些事情。
But it was inspired by some of the things that Anna genuinely experienced.
就像我们创作的大多数好作品一样,灵感都来自我们真实经历的事情。
And like most of the best work that we produce, is inspired by real things that we experience.
在《巧克力之死》这本书里,有个酒店被一个厨师、巧克力师傅,也就是做巧克力的人闹鬼,他死得很惨。
So, in "Death by Chocolate," there's a hotel which is haunted by a chef, a chocolatier, a chocolate maker, who met a sticky end.
主角可可要查明他的遭遇,让他安息,这样他才能离开,不再骚扰酒店。
And the character of Coco has to find out what happened to him in order to give him peace so he can move on and stop haunting the hotel.
这就是这本书的构思。
That's the idea behind the book.
这本书现在由鸡舍出版社出版,你可以在任何一家好的书店找到它。
It's available now from Chicken House Publishing, and you should be able to find it in any good bookshop.
当然,这是一本英文书。
It's an English language book, of course.
《巧克力之死》,作者安娜·布鲁克。
"Death by Chocolate" by Anna Brooke.
你会在描述里找到链接,了解更多信息。
You'll find a link in the description for more information.
在跟安娜的那期节目里,我们发起了这个比赛,鼓励听众分享你们遇到的诡异经历。
So, during that episode with Anna, we launched this competition to encourage my listeners to share any stories of creepy experiences that they, I mean you, have had.
我和安娜聊了聊,我们就在想,不知道我的听众们有没有类似安娜那样的故事可以分享。
Anna and I talked together, and we kind of thought, I wonder if my listeners have got any stories that they could share that are similar to Anna's.
好的。
Okay.
现在你可能会想,卢克,那都是很久以前的事了。
Now, you might be thinking, Luke, that was a long time ago.
那为什么拖到现在呢?
Now, why the delay?
嗯,生活总是有各种事情,所以我就一直没时间弄这个比赛。
Well, life got in the way, as it does, and that meant that it just took me ages to work on the competition.
而且这种比赛其实需要很多准备工作,因为我得收集故事,然后整理好,诸如此类的事情。
And competitions like this always require a lot of work, actually, because I've got to gather the stories and then put it all together and stuff like that.
而且我每周的日程都很紧,这意味着我得不停地推出新节目,有时候需要很多心思的节目就会被推迟,结果这个比赛就被推迟了好多次。
And then I have a tight schedule every week, which means that I have to pump out new episodes all the time, and sometimes an episode that requires a lot of attention gets sort of postponed and put off, and it got put off quite a lot, actually.
基本上就是生活太忙了。
Life got in the way, basically.
然后我心想,九月到了,我就想,为什么不等到万圣节再做这期节目呢?
And then I thought to myself, kind of September arrived, and I thought to myself, why not wait until Halloween to do this episode?
这个时候讲一些恐怖、诡异的故事似乎很合适,因为根据民间传说,这个时候我们世界和灵界之间的那层帷幕,或者说隔阂,变得非常薄。
It seems appropriate to talk about creepy and spooky stories at this time of year, when according to folklore, the veil, the sort of curtain or separation between our world and the spirit world becomes very thin.
所以,十月正是讲恐怖故事的好时机。
So, the time is right for creepy tales in October.
那么,获奖的故事是——
So, the winning story.
所以我让听众们发来他们自己遇到的诡异、无法解释或者可能超自然的经历。
So, I asked my listeners to send in stories of their own creepy, unexplained, or potentially paranormal experiences.
获奖的故事,也就是我和安娜最喜欢的那一个,会得到一本安娜的书。
The winning story, the one that Anna and I like the best, will receive a copy of Anna's book.
这就是奖品,而且这个故事还会在播客里读出来。
That is the prize, and it will also be read out on the podcast.
另外,我和安娜还会挑选一些其他故事,在节目里读给大家听。
But also, Anna and I will make a selection of other stories to read out in the episode.
所以,这就是当时的计划,说实话,我没想到会收到那么多故事。
So, that was the plan, and I didn't expect to get that many stories, to be honest.
这是因为,作为一个怀疑论者,我以为不会有那么多超自然经历可以分享,因为那些经历很少见,对吧?
This is because, as a skeptic, I assumed that there wouldn't be that many paranormal experiences to share because they're rare, aren't they?
我是说,那种奇怪、毛骨悚然、超自然的经历确实很少见,对吧?
I mean, sort of weird, creepy, paranormal experiences are quite rare, aren't they?
但令人惊讶的是,我收到了好多好多故事,总共有74个。
But amazingly, I got absolutely loads of stories, 74 stories in total.
现在,也许你发来了一个故事。
Now, maybe you sent in a story.
是的,我花了很长时间才完成这一集。
Yes, it has taken me ages to finish this episode.
很抱歉让大家等了这么久。
I'm so sorry for taking so long.
我本来没想这样的,但不管怎样,迟到总比不到好。
I didn't intend for this to happen, but anyway, better late than never.
总的来说,这些故事的质量都很高,但我们真的得把故事数量缩减到一个可控的范围。
Now, in general, the quality of writing that I got in these stories was high, but we really had to narrow down the list of stories to a manageable number.
一个可控的数量,方便我们评判和朗读。
A manageable number of stories to judge and to read out.
所以最后,我成功把故事数量缩减到了九个。
So in the end, I managed to reduce the number to just nine stories.
从74个一直减到9个。
So from 74 all the way down to nine stories.
这确实很难,尤其是从大约20个减到9个的时候,特别难。
And that was difficult, especially getting from about 20 stories down to nine was especially difficult.
但在这一集里,我会把九个故事全部读出来,包括获胜的那个。
But in this episode, I'm going to read out all nine of those stories, including the winner.
所以,如果你的故事没有进入这个短名单,我非常抱歉。
So I'm very sorry if your story was not included in this shortlist.
如果你给我发了故事,但没进这九个,那我真的很抱歉。
If you sent me a story and it's not included in this nine, then I'm really sorry.
不过,我确实想展示我收到的每一个故事。
However, I do want to showcase every single story I received.
所以在本集的PDF里,你首先会看到我现在说的这些内容,然后是我们入围的九个故事,我会在本集里读出来,而且马上就要开始了。
So on the PDF for this episode, you will see, first of all, all this stuff that I'm saying to you now, but also the nine stories in our shortlist, which I will read out during this episode, and that's going to start very soon.
还有所有其他入围但本集不会读到的故事。
And all the other stories that were included in the list and which I won't be reading out during this episode.
不过那些故事也都会在PDF里,你也可以自己读,我鼓励大家去读。
But all those other stories will be on the PDF too, so you can read them as well, and I encourage you to do so.
好吗?
Okay?
所以全部74个故事都在里面,供你阅读欣赏。
So all 74 stories are included there for your reading pleasure.
我喜欢在这个播客里搞比赛,但真的不喜欢只挑一个赢家。
Now, I like doing competitions on this podcast, but I don't really like picking one single winner.
我觉得这很难,而且我想鼓励每一个花时间写故事并寄给我的人。
I find it very hard, and I want to encourage everyone who took the time to write a story and to send it to me.
我想鼓励你们,同时再次向那些写了故事但没进入我候选名单的人道歉。
I want to encourage you, and again, apologies to those people who wrote a story which didn't get included in my shortlist.
我不得不拒绝很多故事,但我仍然觉得它们很棒。
I had to reject quite a lot of stories, which I still think are great.
所以如果你没被选中,别觉得难过或什么的。
So if you didn't get picked, don't feel bad or anything like that.
好吗?
Okay?
现在,获胜的故事就是我和安娜选出的我们最喜欢的那一个。
Now, the winning story is simply the one that Anna and I decided was our favorite.
就是那个感人、扣人心弦、有趣,而且读起来很享受的故事。
So the one that was moving, gripping, entertaining, and simply enjoyable to read.
但当然,这只是我们个人的看法和选择,你可能有不同的最爱。
But of course, this is just our humble opinion and our particular choice, and you might have a different favorite.
好吗?
Okay?
如果是这样的话,请在评论区告诉我们你最喜欢哪个故事,以及你为什么喜欢它。
If that is the case, please say in the comments which story is your favorite and why you like it.
我相信作者会很感激收到这样的反馈。
I'm sure that the writer will appreciate getting the feedback.
好吗?
Okay?
现在,我很抱歉不能给每位参与者都提供奖品,但无论如何,我们真的很享受阅读所有这些描述。
Now, I'm very sorry that we can't offer prizes to everyone who took part, but in any case, we've really enjoyed reading all these descriptions.
现在,关于信仰以及我们是否相信超自然现象这个话题,我个人对超自然事物持怀疑态度,我相信大多数事情一定有某种合理的解释,或者有些事情只是超出了我们的理解范围,但不一定是因为超自然或灵异的原因。
Now, on the topic of beliefs and whether or not we believe in the paranormal or not, I personally remain skeptical about paranormal things, and I believe that there must be some kind of rational explanation for most things, or perhaps some things are just beyond our understanding, but not necessarily due to paranormal or supernatural causes.
但我仍然觉得所有这些描述都令人着迷。
But I still find all of these descriptions fascinating.
假设写这些的人说的是实话,没有在某些方面出错,那么是的,我真的无法解释每个案例中发生的事情。
Assuming that the people who wrote these were telling the truth and not mistaken in some way, then yes, I am genuinely unable to explain what happened in each case.
生活是神秘的,世界也是一个神秘的地方。
Life is mysterious, and the world is a mysterious place.
总之,我是那个持怀疑态度的人,而安娜比我更相信这些,你可以在第984集里听到。
Anyway, I am the skeptical one, and Anna is much more of a believer than me, as you can hear in episode 984.
就像BBC的播客系列《Uncanny》一样,安娜特别推荐这个节目,她是那档节目的超级粉丝。
And like in the BBC podcast series, "Uncanny," which is especially recommended by Anna, she's a big fan of that show.
如果你喜欢这类内容,那就是BBC的《Uncanny》。
If you like this kind of thing, that's "Uncanny" from the BBC.
就像那个播客里一样,我们可以把自己分成怀疑派和相信派。
Like in that podcast, we can divide ourselves into the skeptics and the believers.
所以你有怀疑队和相信队。
So you have team skeptic and team believer.
那你属于哪一队呢?
So which one are you?
我个人属于怀疑队。
I am personally in team skeptic.
安娜属于相信队。
Anna is in team believer.
那你属于哪一队呢?
But which team are you in?
你可以在评论区告诉我们。
You can kind of tell us about that in the comments section.
每个故事讲完之后,我会简单总结一下发生了什么,确保你们都听懂了,但我会尽量简短。
Now, after each story, I will briefly summarize what happened just to make sure that you understood everything, but I will try to keep that short.
我也很乐意对每个故事进行推测,并尝试给出理性的解释,但我不会这么做。
I would also happily speculate about each one and attempt to give my rational explanations, but I'm not going to do that.
我只会把故事读出来,然后让作为听众的你们自己来判断每一个故事。
I'm just going to read out the stories, and I will let you, the listener, make up your own mind about each one.
这里的目标是展示我的听众们写的一些精彩故事和描述。
The aim here is to showcase some fantastic stories and descriptions written by my listeners.
我对这些作品的整体写作质量印象非常深刻。
I was very impressed by the overall quality of writing here.
我对入围的这些故事做了一些语言上的修正,只是为了把意思表达清楚,但其实我并没有改太多,也没有做大的重写。
I've made a few language corrections to the stories in this shortlist just to clear things up, but I didn't have to change very much, and I didn't do any major rewriting.
我只是把邮件里收到的那些故事里的一些小错误稍微改了一下。
I just corrected a few small errors here and there, which were in the stories as they were emailed to me.
而且,大部分故事都附带了作者们写的一些温馨的小留言,表达他们对这个播客的真诚感谢。
Also, most of these stories had lovely little messages attached to them from the writers expressing their sincere gratitude for the podcast.
我把那些留言都去掉了,只把故事本身呈现出来,不加其他评论。
I've removed those, choosing instead just to present the stories without any other comments.
不过,如果你写了什么,非常感谢你的暖心话语。
But thank you very much for your lovely words if you did write something.
我一直都非常珍惜这样的心意。
I always appreciate that sort of thing very much.
再说一次,这是我们个人挑选出来的故事短名单。
Again, this is our personal shortlist of stories.
如果你想看我收到的所有故事,可以查看PDF。
If you want to read all the ones I received, check the PDF.
其他所有故事都在里面,没有经过任何修改或编辑。
They're all there presented without any corrections or edits to all the other ones.
现在,有一个内容提示。
Now, there's a content warning.
我需要给你们一个内容提示。
I need to give you a content warning.
这里我要提醒你们,接下来要听的一些故事内容可能会有些敏感。
This is where I warn you about the content of some of the stories which you're going to hear.
有些故事非常个人化,涉及失去、悲伤和情感创伤等强烈主题。
Some of these stories are very personal and contain strong themes of loss, grief, and emotional trauma.
明白吗?
Okay?
这些不仅仅是恐怖故事。
These are not just creepy stories.
它们也是关于人们深刻经历的感人故事。
They're also moving emotional stories about people's profound experiences.
所以在开头先给你们一个小小的内容提示。
So here is a little content warning at the beginning.
有些故事里不仅描述了吓人的经历,还涉及一些创伤性的事件,包括家人或挚爱的离世,以及其他类似的情感冲击很大的经历。
Some of these stories contain descriptions of not only scary experiences, but also some traumatic ones, including the deaths of family members or loved ones, and similarly emotionally charged experiences.
所以,如果这些内容会让你情绪波动很大,那听这期节目的时候请多加小心。
So if those things trigger strong emotions and feelings in you, then please do continue with caution while listening to the episode.
明白吗?
Okay?
这只是一个小小的提醒。
So that's just a little warning.
这期节目里有一些强烈的情感主题,如果你自己有过类似的经历,可能会觉得很难受。
There are some strong emotional themes in this episode that could be upsetting if you have had similar experiences yourself.
那么,一共九个故事。
So nine stories.
我们开始吧。
Let's begin.
好,我们开始第一个故事,我给它起名叫《阳台上的邂逅》。
Okay, let's begin with story number one, which I am calling "Encounter on the Balcony."
现在,我会在节目里告诉你哪个故事是获胜者,好吗?
Now, I'll tell you which story is the winner during the episode, okay?
但我们先从第一个故事开始。
But let's kick off with story number one.
这个故事是由H投稿的,就一个字母H,不是全名,只是首字母H。好,那我们开始吧。
This was sent in by H, simply H. Not the full name, just the initial H. Okay, so here we go.
现在很多人对鬼魂持怀疑态度,这并不奇怪。
It's not surprising that many people are skeptical about ghosts nowadays.
孩子们对恐怖故事很敏感,也喜欢听,但他们在学校学到的科学知识越多,对神秘主义的免疫力就越强。
Kids are perceptive to scary tales and like them, but the more science they learn at school, the stronger their immunity to mysticism becomes.
然而,确实会发生一些不同寻常的事情。
However, different things do happen.
可能每个人都能讲出几个灵异故事。
Probably everyone has a few spooky stories to tell.
我可以告诉你,没有什么比在傍晚的森林里散步更能颠覆你的科学认知了,尤其是当你抄近路时,突然发现一具人的骷髅,空洞无底的眼窝正死死地盯着你。
I can tell you that nothing blows away your scientific knowledge like a nice walk in the evening forest, especially if you take a shortcut and suddenly discover a human skeleton staring piercingly at you with empty, bottomless eye sockets.
奇怪的是,科学并不能帮你应对腿软的感觉,而且当树枝碰到你的肩膀时,你的想象力立刻就会描绘出一只骨瘦如柴的手死死抓住你的画面。
Strangely enough, science cannot help you cope with the weakness in your legs, and when a tree branch catches your shoulder, your imagination immediately draws a picture of a bony hand clutching you with a death grip.
当然,真正的鬼魂确实存在。
Real ghosts do exist, of course.
我记得小时候,我和奶奶住在一楼。
I remember when I was a child, we lived with my grandma on the first floor.
还是说在英国叫底层?
Or was it the ground floor in British?
嗯,说得清楚一点,我们有底层,然后上面一层是一楼,再上面是二楼。
Well, to be clear, we have the ground floor, then the next floor up is the first floor, then the second floor.
所以底层就是在地面那一层的。
So the ground floor is the one that's at the ground level.
所以我们和奶奶住在一栋公寓楼的一楼。
So we lived with my grandma on the first floor of an apartment building.
那里有个凹进去的阳台,是个很有用的地方。
There was a recessed balcony, a very useful place.
阳台上堆满了家里放不下的值钱东西,空罐子、锅、园艺工具、滑雪板。
It held all the valuables that didn't fit in the apartment, empty jars, pots, garden tools, skis.
不是奶奶的,是我哥哥的。
Not grandma's, but my brother's.
还有一辆自行车,也不是奶奶的,是我的,还有天知道的其他东西。
A bicycle, also not grandma's, mine, and God knows what else.
到处还拉着晾衣绳。
There were also clotheslines strung everywhere.
奶奶非常节俭,很会过日子。
Grandma was very provident and thrifty.
这一整套东西,被细心的人手仔细安排着,暂时维持着一种脆弱但稳定的平衡。
This entire system of things, carefully arranged by caring hands, maintained a fragile but stable balance for the time being.
一个冬天的晚上,外面天色已经暗了下来,我们坐在客厅里。
One winter evening, when the darkness had thickened outside, we were sitting in the living room.
有人在看书,有人在看电视。
Someone was reading, someone was watching TV.
突然,这平静的一幕被阳台上传来的一阵巨响粗鲁地打破了,东西摔落的声音和锅碗瓢盆的叮当声混在一起。
Suddenly, this peaceful scene was rudely disturbed by a terrible noise on the balcony, the crash of falling things and the clanging of pots.
当我们终于从恐惧中回过神来,往外一看,只见那个不速之客正沿着街道匆匆逃走。
When we finally emerged from our stupor caused by the horror that had gripped us and looked out, we saw our uninvited guest rushing off down the street.
他飞快地滑行而去,仿佛被风带走,雪地上似乎没留下任何痕迹。
He glided away swiftly, as if carried by the wind, and it seemed to leave no traces in the snow.
那无疑是个鬼。
It was undoubtedly a ghost.
嗯,所以那是H写的。那我简单总结一下,对吧?
Hmm, so that was from H. So let me just summarize that, right?
H一开始用幽默的方式谈了对鬼、恐惧和科学思维局限的思考,然后回忆起小时候和奶奶合住的一套公寓里的经历,阳台上堆满了精心摆放的家用品。
So H begins with some humorous reflections on ghosts, fear, and the limits of scientific thinking, and then H recalls a childhood experience in a flat shared with grandma, whose balcony was packed with carefully arranged household objects.
一个漆黑的冬夜,家人听到阳台上传来一声巨响,往外一看,看到一个神秘的身影逃走了,沿着街道跑掉,似乎在雪地上滑行而没有留下脚印。
One dark winter evening, the family heard a tremendous crash outside on the balcony, and when they looked, they saw a mysterious figure fleeing, escaping down the street, apparently gliding over the snow without leaving footprints.
H得出结论,那个来访者一定是个鬼。
H concludes that the visitor must have been a ghost.
我之所以从这个故事开始,是因为我觉得它为本集定下了一个有趣的基调,我想就那段描述的基调做个说明。
Now, I've started with this one because I feel like it sets an interesting tone for the episode, and I want to just make a note about the tone of that particular description.
我喜欢这个故事,是因为它探讨了这样一个想法:鬼故事不可能是真的,因为它们必须有科学的解释,对吧?
So I like this story because it plays with the idea that ghost stories can't be true because they must have scientific explanations, right?
故事就是这样开头的。
That's how the story begins.
但当你真正经历一次令人毛骨悚然的事情时,这种理性思维很快就会离你而去,突然间你的大脑开始把事情解读为超自然的、有威胁性的。
But this rational thinking quickly escapes you when you have a genuinely creepy experience, and suddenly your mind starts to interpret things being supernatural and threatening.
所以我想用这个故事来引出本集,因为它讲的是我们本来是理性的,但那些令人毛骨悚然的经历可能会让你的大脑开始以不那么理性的方式去解读事物。
So I wanted to introduce the episode with this one because it is about the idea that we are rational, but then creepy experiences can kind of cause your brain to start interpreting things in a less rational way.
我觉得最后那句“那无疑是个鬼”几乎肯定是个玩笑。
And I think the final sentence, "It was undoubtedly a ghost," is almost certainly intended as a joke.
是吗?
Is it?
幽默来自于H自信的结论与现实的对比,比如“哦,那一定是个鬼。”
With the humor coming from the contrast between H's confident conclusion, like, "Oh, it must have been a ghost.
那肯定是个鬼," 而我们可以想象一个更普通的解释。
It was definitely a ghost," with a more ordinary explanation that we can imagine.
我觉得这很讽刺。
I think it's ironic.
不是吗?
No?
很明显,那肯定是个鬼。
It was obvious it was definitely a ghost.
嗯,可能是一只鸟。
Well, it might have been a bird.
可能是一只乌鸦,它落在阳台上,然后没碰地面就飞走了,沿着街道飞远了。
It might have been a crow, which had landed on the balcony and then flown off down the street without touching the ground.
这有可能。
That's possible.
我们总是把无法解释的事情归咎于超自然现象。
We assume supernatural explanations for unexplained events.
不过,这只是我个人的怀疑态度在作祟。
However, that's just my skepticism coming through.
这个列表里的其他故事肯定更难解释,我们马上就会看到,我也很好奇你们对这些故事有什么看法。
Other stories in this list are certainly harder to explain, as we are about to see, and I'm curious to see what your interpretations are of these stories.
请在评论区留下你们的评论。
Leave your comments in the comments section.
我打算忍住,不再像刚才那样过度解读了。
I'm going to resist the temptation to interpret any more than I did just now.
好了,那就是第一个故事,"阳台上的遭遇"。
Okay, so that was number one, "Encounter on the Balcony."
我们接着看第二个故事,叫做"祖母的奖章"。
Let's move on to story number two, which is called "Grandmother's Medallion."
祖母的奖章。
Grandmother's Medallion.
这是西尔维娅分享的。
This is from Sylvia.
好,那我们开始吧。我的西西里祖母是个个子矮小、驼背的人,留着长长的白发,紧紧盘成一个发髻。
Okay, so here we go My Sicilian grandmother was a tiny, hunchbacked person with long white hair she wore tight in a bun.
她非常严厉,说话只说最必要的话。
She was very severe and spoke only the bare essentials.
那时候是五十年代,我们家每年夏天都去西西里看她。
At that time, it was the '50s, and my family went to Sicily every summer to visit her.
祖父已经去世了。
The grandfather was already dead.
我很享受在西西里的假期,虽然我很怕祖母。
I enjoyed the Sicilian holiday very much, though I was afraid of my grandmother.
她脖子上戴着一条金链子,上面挂着一个象牙小盒,雕刻着精美的花朵浮雕。
She wore around her neck a golden chain with an ivory medallion, beautifully carved with a flower relief.
但让我好奇的是,这个小盒可以像小盒子一样打开。
But the fact that excited my curiosity was that it could be opened as a small box.
“里面是什么?”
"What's inside?"
我问过祖母一次。
I asked grandmother once.
她不满地看了我一眼,说:“女孩子不应该好奇。”
She gave me a disapproving look and said, "Girls should not be curious."
我祖母在我15岁时去世了。
My grandmother died when I was 15.
葬礼后几天,我问父亲能不能把她的吊坠给我,他给了我。
Some days after the funeral, I asked my father if I could get her medallion, and he gave it to me.
我迫不及待地想打开它。
I couldn't wait for the moment to open it.
我太激动了,手都在发抖。
I was so excited that my hands were shaking.
终于,我拨开小钩子,盖子弹开了。
Finally, I moved the tiny hook, and the lid popped off.
我首先注意到一股浓烈的香味,我不由自主地把头往后仰。
The first thing I noticed was a perfume so intense that I involuntarily pushed my head away.
闻起来像枯萎的茉莉花,有点像墓地里腐烂的花。
It smelled like withering jasmine, something like rotting flowers in a cemetery.
我定了定神,往吊坠里面看。
I pulled myself together and looked inside the medallion.
底部有一张旧照片。
There was an old picture on the bottom.
是一张那种老式的棕褐色照片,几乎都模糊了,但还是能认出来。
One of these old sepia-colored photographs, almost erased, but still recognizable.
照片里是个小女孩,长发披在肩上,穿着蕾丝裙。
It was a little girl with long hair falling on her shoulders and a lace dress.
她用一双大大的、浅色的眼睛看着我。
She looked at me with large, light eyes.
但这个小盒子里还有别的东西,一束用天鹅绒丝带绑着的金发。
But the small box held something more, a lock of blonde hair bound with a velvet ribbon.
但这还不是全部。
But that wasn't all.
我一打开盒子,就感觉耳朵里好像听到了什么声音。
The moment I opened the box, I had the impression I could hear something in my ears.
那不是耳鸣那种简单的噪音。
It wasn't a simple noise like tinnitus.
我听到的像是祈祷声。
I heard something like a prayer.
是的,我听到女人们在唱那种西西里守灵时唱的祷文。
Yes, I heard women praying that kind of litany they used to sing in Sicily to watch the dead.
我跑到父亲那里,把照片给他看。
I ran to my father and showed him the picture.
“她是谁?
"Who is she?
你认识她吗?”
Do you know her?"
他仔细看了看。
He looked attentively.
他说:“这头发,跟我母亲的一样,是蜜金色的。”
"The hair," he said, "is of the same color as my mother's, honey blonde.
还有那个小女孩,我记得小时候有一次听到两个女佣在窃窃私语。
And the little girl, I remember that once when I was a child, I heard two maids whispering to each other.
她们说女主人自从那件事后就变了,还暗示有个死去的孩子。
They said that the mistress hasn't been the same after the fact and alluded to a dead child.
我父亲说:“我立刻想到,这可能是我出生前就神秘死去的姐姐。”
I thought immediately that it could be a sister who died in mysterious circumstances before I was born," said my father.
我被这个故事弄得一头雾水,以至于忘了问他关于盒子里气味和声音的事。
I was so baffled by the story that I forgot to ask him about the smell and the noise coming from the box.
同一天我又打开盒子,发现气味变得非常浓烈,整个房间都充满了。
The same day as I opened it again, I found that the smell became so strong that the whole room was filled with it.
声音也是一样。
The same happened to the noise.
我清楚地听到脚步声走进树林或穿过灌木丛,而且我觉得我能听到一个声音,或者更确切地说,是一声压抑的哀叹。
I clearly heard steps going into a wood or through bushes, and I believed I could hear a voice, or better, a stifled lament.
我害怕了,就把那个徽章收了起来,但我没忍住多久。
Scared, I put the medallion away, but I didn't resist very long.
我又忍不住把它拿了出来。
I had to take it again.
我面对着那股腐烂花朵的气味,等着那个声音出现,结果它真的来了。
I faced the smell of rotting flowers, waiting for the noise to come, and it came.
这次,是一个清晰的孩子的哭声。
This time, it was a clear child crying.
我心里非常难受。
I was deeply upset.
我确信那不是我的幻觉。
I was sure that it was not a figment of the imagination.
那是在给我传递一个信息,让我回到祖先的老家去。
It was a message to me to go back to the home of my ancestors.
我必须了解更多。
I had to know more about it.
后来发生了一些大事,我父亲去世了,母亲也病了,这些让我暂时忘了那枚奖章。
Dramatic events, my father died and my mother became ill, made me forget the medallion.
当它再次回到我手里时,我知道是时候回西西里了。
When it ended up in my hands again, I knew it was time to go back to Sicily.
我订了去卡塔尼亚的航班,还在莫迪卡订了一家民宿,那是祖父家族曾经住过的美丽小镇。
I booked a flight to Catania and a B&B in Modica, the beautiful town where the grandfather's family once lived.
第二天,我去了市档案馆,要求查看关于我家族的文件。
The next day, I went to the municipal archive and asked for the documents they had about my family.
工作人员难以置信地看着我,似乎有些犹豫。
The clerk looked at me incredulously and seemed to hesitate.
我问为什么,他说:“呃,这事很奇怪。
As I asked the reason, he said, "Well, it's very strange.
几个月前,有人在几公里外的乡下发现了人类遗骸,引起了很大轰动。”
A couple of months ago, there was a lot of talk about the discovery of human remains in the countryside some kilometers away."
他用手臂指了指方向,“而且跟一个同姓的家族有关。”
He showed with the arm the direction, "And about a family of this name."
“为什么?”
"Why?"
我非常惊讶地问。
I asked, very surprised.
“一座老农舍卖给了几个游客。
"An old farmhouse was sold to some tourists.
在开始建新房的时候,他们在地窖下面的一个洞里发现了一个小女孩的骨架。
As the construction of the new house began, they found in a hole under the cellar the skeleton of a small girl.
她大概在80年前去世了。
She must have died 80 years ago.
我们怎么知道她的名字呢?
How do we know her name?
因为她戴着一条项链,一面是圣母像,另一面刻着她的名字和出生日期。
Because she wore a necklace with the image of the Holy Mother on one side and her name and the birth date on the other side.
宪兵队查明,她应该是地主家的第一个女儿,五岁时被绑架,尽管支付了赎金,却再也没有找到。”
The Carabinieri found out that it had to be the first daughter of the landowner's family, who was kidnapped at the age of five, and despite the payment of the ransom, was never found."
我问店员那具骸骨埋在哪里,他给我指了去墓地的路。
I asked the clerk where the skeleton was interred, and he showed me the way to the cemetery.
所以,我没去档案馆,而是去了市立公墓,向一位女孩的姑妈表达了敬意。
Therefore, instead of an archive, I visited the municipal cemetery, where I paid tribute to a girl aunt.
回到民宿后,我打开那个小圆盒,发现香味几乎没了,耳边也听不到任何声音。
When I was back in my B&B, I opened the medallion, and I noticed that the perfume was almost gone, and no noise came to my ears.
照片还在原位,但看起来非常苍白,当我碰到那缕头发时,它化成了金色的粉末。
The photograph was still in its place, but it seemed to me very pale, and as I touched the lock of hair, it dissolved into a golden powder.
好了,就是这样。
Well, there you go.
这就是西尔维娅讲的关于祖母小圆盒的故事。
That's Silvia's story of the grandmother's medallion.
听众朋友们,你们怎么看?
What do you think of that, listeners?
你们觉得这故事怎么样?
What do you make of that?
我觉得我应该做个总结,而且这次总结会相当详细,因为,嗯,我只是想知道你听懂了多少。
I think I should give a summary, and this is going to be quite a detailed summary, this one, because, well, I'm just wondering how much you understood of that.
但我觉得那是个很吸引人的故事。
But I thought that was a fascinating story.
那我先来总结一下。
Let me give the summary then.
所以这是一个超自然悬疑故事,主角是西尔维娅,她在故事中继承了一个奇怪的奖章,一种项链,上面挂着一个圆形的、比较大的硬币形状的饰品,我觉得正面还有装饰。
So this is a supernatural mystery by Silvia, who, in the story, inherits a strange medallion, a kind of necklace with, I guess, a round, large, coin-shaped piece of jewelry with, I think, a decoration on the front of it.
但这种奖章是可以打开的,它像个吊坠,里面有个小盒子。
But it's the sort of medallion that can be opened, and it's like a pendant, so it has a little box inside.
所以西尔维娅在她祖母去世后继承了这个奇怪的奖章。
So Silvia inherits a strange medallion from her grandmother when she dies.
这个奖章似乎传递着一个死去孩子的信息,让西尔维娅不得不揭开一个悲剧性的家庭秘密,涉及她小姨被绑架和死亡。
The medallion seems to contain messages from a dead child, leaving Silvia to uncover a tragic family secret involving the kidnapping and death of her young aunt.
一旦真相大白,西尔维娅去看了孩子的坟墓,超自然现象就停止了。
Once the truth is discovered and Silvia visits the child's grave, the supernatural activity stops.
那我再把这个故事讲一遍,换个说法,确保你听懂了细节。
So let me tell that story again, in other words, just to make sure you understood the details.
话说西尔维娅小时候,也就是1950年代,每年夏天全家都会去西西里看望她的祖母。
So when Silvia was a child in the 1950s, her family visited her grandmother in Sicily every summer.
她祖母个子矮小,为人严厉,有点吓人,话也不多。
Her grandmother was a small, strict, rather frightening woman who didn't speak very much.
西尔维娅说她祖母是个驼背。
Silvia said her grandmother was hunchbacked.
驼背这个词是用来形容一个人背部有明显的永久性前倾,总是弯着腰,可能背是圆的,或者背上有个大包,就在背上部。
So hunchbacked is an adjective that describes someone with an obvious permanent forward bend in their back, someone who always bends forward, and maybe their back is round, or it has a hump, like a large lump on the top of the back, the upper part of the back.
这就是驼背的人。
So that's a hunchbacked person.
驼背的人通常得向前弯着腰,背上可能有个大圆包。
A hunchbacked person typically has to bend forward and might have a large rounded bump on their back.
我想,对小孩子来说,这看起来可能有点奇怪,甚至有点吓人,尤其是这位祖母,显然很严厉,话又少。
And I suppose to a child, that might seem a little bit strange and possibly frightening in the case of this grandmother, who was apparently quite strict and didn't talk a lot.
总之,那就是他们每年夏天去看望的祖母。
So anyway, that's the grandmother who they visited every summer.
她的祖母总是戴着一条金链子,上面挂着一个漂亮的象牙小圆盒,挂在脖子上。
Her grandmother always wore a beautiful ivory medallion on a gold chain around her neck.
那个小圆盒就像一个小盒子,可以打开。
The medallion was like a tiny box that could be opened.
西尔维娅小时候非常好奇里面装了什么,但祖母拒绝告诉她,而且似乎很保护它,说:“小女孩不应该好奇。”
Silvia was very curious about what was inside when she was a child, but her grandmother refused to tell her and seemed to be quite protective of it, saying, "Little girls should not be curious."
后来,西尔维娅15岁时,祖母去世了。
Then when Silvia was 15, her grandmother died.
葬礼后,西尔维娅问父亲她能不能要那个小圆盒,父亲同意了。
After the funeral, Silvia asked her father if she could have the medallion, and he agreed.
西尔维娅兴奋地第一次打开了那个小圆盒。
Silvia excitedly opened the medallion for the first time.
里面,她发现了一张小女孩的旧照片和一缕金发。
Inside, she found an old photograph of a little girl and a lock of blonde hair.
一绺头发,意思就是一小撮头发,就是很多根头发聚在一起。
A lock of hair, that means just a piece of hair, like lots of hairs all together in one bit.
想象一下,如果你抓住一个人的头发,用剪刀剪下一部分,你手指间夹着的就是那一绺头发。
So imagine if you just grab someone's hair and snip, you snip some of that hair off with scissors, what you would have between your fingers, you would have a lock of hair.
所以,这个吊坠里面有一张女孩的照片,还有一绺用丝带扎起来的金发。
So there was the photograph of the girl and a lock of blonde hair tied together with a ribbon inside this medallion.
当西尔维娅打开吊坠时,她注意到一些奇怪的事情,一股浓烈的凋谢花朵的气味,似乎充满了整个房间。
And when Silvia opened the medallion, she noticed some strange things, a very strong smell of dying flowers, which seemed to fill the room.
她还觉得自己能听到女人祈祷的声音,所以她听到了声响。
She also thought she could hear women praying, so she heard noises.
她觉得自己能听到女人祈祷的声音,就像她们在参加葬礼一样。
She thought she could hear women praying as if they were attending a funeral.
她把照片拿给父亲看,父亲记得曾听仆人们说起过一个孩子,那个孩子死因不明。
She showed the photograph to her father, and he remembered hearing servants talking about a child who had died in mysterious circumstances.
这种事情确实会发生。
This sort of thing does happen.
我不知道你有没有经历过,但家里有人去世时,有时候秘密会突然冒出来。
I don't know if you've experienced this, but when a member of the family dies, sometimes secrets suddenly come out.
有时候,藏了好多年的家庭秘密,等那个人走了以后才被说出来,对吧?
Sometimes family secrets that have been hidden for years are then told when the person has moved on, right?
就像这里的情况。
Like here.
所以父亲后来透露,他曾经听到仆人们说话,那肯定是个有钱人家,才有仆人。
So the father then reveals that he once heard servants, so it must have been a rich family that had servants.
他小时候偷听到那些仆人谈论某件事,说类似“哎呀,自从那件事发生后,她就再也不一样了”这样的话。
He overheard those servants when he was a child talking about some sort of incident that had happened, saying something like, "Oh, she's never been the same since the thing happened."
他大概猜出来,或者怀疑,照片里的小女孩应该是他出生前就去世的姐姐。
And he kind of worked out or suspected that the little girl in the picture must have been his sister who had died before he was born.
所以他推断或者怀疑,他母亲之前生过一个女儿,那个女孩死了,但她从来没提过。
So he worked out or suspected that his mother had had a daughter previously, and that girl had died, and she'd never spoken about it.
每次西尔维娅打开那个纪念盒,那股味道就更浓,她还会听到更多奇怪的声音。
Every time Silvia opened the medallion, the smell became stronger, and she heard more strange sounds.
她听到脚步声穿过灌木丛,有人在低声哭泣,最后是清晰、确凿的孩子哭声。
She heard footsteps moving through bushes, someone crying quietly, and eventually the clear, definite sound of a child crying.
这一定相当——太不可思议了,听到幻听甚至还有特定的气味。
And this must have been quite-- That's extraordinary, hearing the auditory hallucinations and even a particular smell.
这很奇怪。
It's very strange.
西尔维娅越来越确信这些声音不是凭空想象的。
And Silvia became convinced that the sounds were not imaginary.
她相信那个小女孩试图与她沟通,她需要回到西西里去查明真相,仿佛那个女孩在呼喊着要这个谜团彻底解开。
She believed that the little girl was trying to communicate with her and that she needed to return to Sicily to discover what had happened, as if the girl was crying out for this mystery to be solved once and for all.
不幸的是,她的父亲去世了,母亲也病倒了。
Unfortunately, her father died, and her mother became ill.
生活发生了变故,死亡也降临了。
Life happened And death happened.
这些事让西尔维娅暂时放下了这个谜团,她把吊坠收起来了一段时间,我想,这些年她一直在处理这些事情。
These events then distracted Silvia from the mystery, and she put the medallion away for some time, I guess, while over the years she dealt with these things.
后来,西尔维娅终于决定是时候搬回西西里,回到她祖先的家了。
And then eventually Silvia decided that it was time to move back to Sicily to the home of her ancestors.
她飞到卡塔尼亚,住在莫迪卡,那里是她祖父家族曾经住过的地方。
She flew to Catania, stayed in Modica, where her grandfather's family had once lived.
她去当地的档案馆调查家族历史。
She visited the local archives to investigate her family's history.
这个地方大概保存着镇上居民的相关记录。
Presumably, this is a place that has records of information about the people who lived in the town.
档案馆的一名员工告诉西尔维娅,工人们最近在一座旧农舍的地窖下面发现了一具小女孩的骸骨,骸骨大约有80年的历史,女孩戴着一条项链,上面刻着她的名字和出生日期,这让警方确认她是当地一个地主家庭的女儿。
An employee at the archives told Silvia that workers had recently discovered the skeleton of a little girl buried beneath the cellar of an old farmhouse, and the skeleton was about 80 years old, and the girl had been wearing a necklace with her name and date of birth on it, and this allowed the police to identify her as the daughter of a local landowning family.
所以当西尔维娅去档案馆时,她跟一名工作人员交谈,给他们看了那个名字,这时那名工作人员似乎有点震惊,说:“哦,最近发现了一具80年前的小女孩骸骨,名字就是这个。”
So when Silvia went to the archives, she spoke to a member of staff, showed them the name, and that's when the member of staff seemed to be kind of shocked and said, "Oh, an 80-year-old skeleton of a girl was discovered recently with this name."
那个小女孩五岁时被绑架了。
The little girl had been kidnapped when she was five years old.
她的家人付了赎金给绑匪,但她再也没有回来。
Her family had paid money to the kidnappers to get her back, but she had never returned.
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在发现那具骸骨之前,没有人知道她到底发生了什么。
Nobody had known what happened to her until the skeleton was discovered.
西尔维娅这才意识到,那个死去的女孩其实是她的姑姑,比她父亲出生得早,是她父亲的姐姐。
And Silvia then realized that the dead girl was her aunt, born before her father was born, her father's older sister.
她没有继续在档案馆里做研究,而是去了墓地,看望那个女孩的坟墓,表达她的敬意。
Instead of continuing her research in the archives, she then went to the cemetery to visit the girl's grave and to pay her respects.
西尔维娅回到住处后,又打开了那个小盒子。
When Silvia returned to her accommodation, she opened the medallion again.
这一次,那股难闻的气味几乎消失了,她也再也听不到任何奇怪的声音。
This time, the terrible smell had almost disappeared, and she could no longer hear any strange sounds.
照片变得非常苍白,当她触摸那缕金发时,它化成了金色的粉末。
The photograph had become very pale, and when she touched the lock of blonde hair, it turned into golden dust.
哇,这个故事真是有个不寻常的结局,头发就这样分解了,我觉得这是有可能的,如果它一直被锁在那个小盒子里那么久,现在再次打开,你可以想象它会分解掉。
Wow, what an extraordinary ending to the story, that the hair just sort of disintegrated, which I think is possible if it's been locked in this medallion for all that time, and now after being opened again after all that time, you can imagine it would break down.
所以我觉得这是有可能的。
So I think that's possible.
不过话说回来,这个故事最终暗示的是,那个死去女孩的灵魂一直试图通过那个吊坠来沟通,她的记忆一直保存在那里。
But anyway, the story suggests ultimately that the spirit of the dead girl had been trying to communicate through the medallion where her memory had been kept all this time.
既然她的遗骸被发现了,而且西尔维娅也去墓地看过她,女孩终于可以安息了。
Now that her remains had been discovered and Silvia had visited her grave, the girl could finally rest in peace.
这就是西尔维娅讲的关于祖母吊坠的故事。
So that is Silvia's story of the grandmother's medallion.
真是非常特别的故事。
Quite extraordinary stuff.
而且我得说,听众朋友们,这就是获奖故事。
And I have to say, this is the winning story, listeners.
顺便说一下,这就是那个获奖故事。
This is the winning story, by the way.
我和安娜都觉得这个故事非常感人,写得也很好。
Both Anna and I thought that it was very moving and well-written.
现在,我们先不谈这个故事的可信度,因为重点不是写最可信的故事,而是写最有趣的故事,而且这也不是在考验这些故事的真实性。
Now, putting aside the believability of this, because this is not about writing the most believable story, just the most interesting story, and this is not a test of the truthfulness of these stories.
这是另一个可以聊的话题。
That's another thing to talk about.
这个就留给你们自己判断了。
I will let you decide yourselves about that.
但是安娜和我都觉得,那些对神秘超自然时刻的生动描写在讲故事方面非常有效,而且它们服务于故事的情感核心,本质上就是发现一个家庭秘密并让它安息。
But Anna and I found that the evocative descriptions of the mysterious paranormal moments were very effective in terms of storytelling, and they served the emotional heart of the story, which was essentially about sort of discovering a family secret and putting it to rest.
而且我觉得这个故事在恐怖元素和情感元素之间取得了很好的平衡。
And I think the story has a good balance between spooky elements and emotional elements.
神秘感很清晰,结尾有一种令人满意的解决感,整体上还有一种令人毛骨悚然的神秘氛围。
The sense of mystery is clear, and there is a satisfying sense of resolution at the end and an overall kind of creepiness and mysterious spookiness.
所以安娜和我都特别选中了这个故事,这也是为什么我们都同意它是获胜者。
So both Anna and I picked this one as a particular favorite, and that's why we both agreed this one was the winner.
但是我收到的其他很多故事也有类似的品质,你们会在这一集里看到,这一集看起来会很长,因为我才讲了两个故事,而我们已经播了挺长时间了。
But so many other stories which I received were of a similar quality, as you will see in this episode, which promises to be a long one, it seems, because I've only done two stories, and we're already quite a long time into the episode.
不过无论如何,恭喜你,西尔维娅。
But anyway, congratulations, Silvia.
我真希望你在听。
I do hope that you are listening.
我会通过电子邮件联系你,获取你的邮寄地址,这样就能把安娜的书寄给你了。
I will be in touch by email to get your postal address so that a copy of Anna's book can be sent to you.
你可以自己读读看,也可以当作礼物送人。
You might enjoy reading it yourself, or you can offer it as a gift.
就这样吧。
So there you go.
听众朋友们,请继续收听,因为我接下来准备了一些很棒的故事。
Now, listeners, stay with me because I've got some great stories lined up now.
现在我们已经决定了谁是赢家。
So now we've decided who the winner is.
让我们好好享受剩下的这些故事吧。
Let's just enjoy the rest of these stories.
我们还有七个故事,每个故事的风格都略有不同。
And we've got seven more stories with slightly different tones in each case.
那么,你准备好听第三个故事了吗?
So are you ready to discover story number three?
好,我们开始吧。
Okay, here we go.
这个故事叫《我们干得真不错》,作者是Yoan。
This one is called "We Did a Really Good Job," and it's by Yoan.
《我们干得真不错》,作者Yoan。
"We Did a Really Good Job" by Yoan.
开始吧。
Here we go.
很多年前,我爱上了木工活。
Many years ago, I fell in love with woodworking.
我最初是在YouTube上看了一个视频,讲的是一位名叫Ishitani的著名日本木匠。
I first watched a video on YouTube about a famous Japanese woodworker named Ishitani.
之后,我又看了很多不同创作者的视频,直到我决定自己动手做第一件家具。
Then after that, I watched a lot of different videos from different creators until I decided to create my first piece of furniture myself.
在继续讲我的故事之前,我得先回到过去。
Before going any further in my story, I have to go back in time.
我爷爷在15年前去世了,那时候我还只是个 teenager。
I lost my grandfather 15 years ago when I was still a teenager.
爷爷对我来说是个特别的人。
My grandfather was a special person to me.
我非常爱他,也很敬佩他,尽管小时候和他相处的时间太少了。
I loved him and admired him a lot, even though I spent too little time with him during my childhood.
那对我来说是个巨大的损失,但我从来没跟人提起过,连我妈妈都没说。
It was an awful loss for me, but I never spoke about it, not even to my mother.
我本来就不是个话多的人,也不怎么善于表达情感。
I'm not a particularly talkative person, nor even an expressive one.
回到我们的故事,我现在是个自学木工的人,想通过做我的第一件家具——一个书架——来开启我对这个新爱好的旅程。
Going back to our story, I'm now a self-apprentice woodworker, and I want to start my journey through my new passion by creating my first piece of furniture, a bookcase.
相信我,我是个非常理性的人,至少以前是。
Trust me, I am a fully rational person, or at least I was.
但当我开始做这个项目的时候,我脑子里能听到爷爷在跟我说话。
But when I started working on this project, I could hear my grandfather talking to me in my head.
就像在和他聊天一样。
It was like having a conversation with him.
他给我建议,那些建议可能是我自己先在脑子里想出来的,但我还是听了。
He gave me advice, advice that I had probably created by myself in my head before he gave it to me, but I listened to it.
这个项目我做了整整两个星期,每天他都在我脑子里,一整天都在,就像一个我可以对话的虚幻人物,像小孩子和他的想象中的朋友一样。
I worked on this project for two weeks long, and every day he was in my head all day long, like an imaginary person I could talk to, like a child with his imaginary friend.
虽然我觉得这有点奇怪,但我没多想,还挺享受那段时光的。
Even though I felt it was odd, I didn't ask myself too many questions, and I enjoyed the moment.
我一个人在车库里,和我那已经去世的想象中的爷爷一起做东西。
I was here alone in my garage, creating something with my imaginary dead grandfather.
但回到家之后,就什么都没有了。
And when I got home, nothing.
那些声音消失了。
The voices disappeared.
我完成了我的书架,并把它安装在了餐厅里。
I finished my bookcase and installed it in my dining room.
我对自己的作品感到非常自豪。
I was really proud of my creation.
你猜怎么着?
And guess what?
我爷爷也很自豪。
So was my grandfather.
几周后,我妈妈来到我家。
A few weeks later, my mom came to my house.
她不知道我一直在做这个项目,甚至不知道我有这个新爱好。
She didn't know I'd been working on this project or even that I had this new hobby.
她走进屋子,看到书架,愣住了。
She entered the house, saw the bookcase, and froze.
她问我这个书架是在哪里买的。
She asked me where I'd bought this bookcase.
我告诉她这全是我自己做的,她就开始哭了。
I told her I'd built it all by myself, and she started crying.
那天我才知道,我祖父很多年前在我妈妈还是小孩的时候,也做过一模一样的家具。
On that day, I learned that my grandfather had built exactly the same piece of furniture many years before when my mother was still a child.
我完全不知道我祖父曾经喜欢木工,甚至不知道他是个手巧的人。
I had no clue that my grandfather had once enjoyed woodworking, or even that he was a handyman.
怎么可能我做出了和我祖父40年前一模一样的书柜,而且他偏偏在这个时候回到我脑海里,帮助我,然后在我完成后就离开了?
How is it possible that I created exactly the same bookcase as my grandfather did 40 years ago, and that he came back in my head at this exact period of time, helped me, and then left me when I'd finished?
从那以后,我祖父就再也没有回到我脑海里。
Since then, my grandfather has never come back into my head.
他对我说的最后一句话,或者也许是我们对我说的,是:“我们做得真不错。”
The last thing he said to me, or perhaps we said to me, was, "We did a really good job."
我现在有太多问题,但我还不想知道答案。
I have too many questions now that I still don't want answers to.
约安。
Yoan.
好,这就是约安的祖父如何回到他身边,帮他做了一个和他祖父大约40年前做的一模一样的书柜。
Okay, so that's how Yoan's grandfather came back to him and helped him build a bookcase that was exactly the same as one that his grandfather had built, say, 40 years before.
好,这就是那件事的总结。
Okay, so here's the summary of that.
这是一个感人又神秘的故事,讲的是约安发现了自己对木工的热爱,在制作他的第一个书柜时开始听到已故祖父的声音。
So this is a touching and mysterious story about Yoan, who discovers a passion for woodworking and begins hearing his dead grandfather's voice while building his first bookcase.
在制作过程中,他的祖父一直在和他说话。
So while building it, his grandfather is talking to him the entire time.
完成后,他把书柜给妈妈看,妈妈非常震惊。
After completing it, he shows his mom the bookcase, and she is shocked.
原来约安的祖父在40年前就做过一模一样的家具。
It turns out that Yoan's grandfather had built exactly the same piece of furniture 40 years earlier.
约安不禁在想,这究竟是不可思议的巧合,他只是在脑海里想象出了祖父的声音,还是祖父的灵魂真的回来帮他做了这个书柜。
Yoan is left wondering whether this was an extraordinary coincidence and that he'd simply imagined his grandfather's voice in his own head, or whether his grandfather's spirit had somehow returned to help him build the bookcase.
好了,听众朋友们,你们怎么看?
Well, listeners, what do you think?
你自己决定吧。
I'll let you make up your own mind.
现在我们进入第四个故事,名字叫《书店里的诡异巧合》。
Let's move on now to story number four, which is called "Creepy Serendipity at the Bookshop."
听这个故事的时候,我希望你们想一想它的基调。
And as you listen to this story, I just want you to think of the tone of the story.
这个故事的基调是什么?
What is the tone of this story?
好的。
Okay.
我们之前听过的故事有的很有力量、很感人——第一个故事有点讽刺地探讨了恐怖故事到底是什么,是真的还是想象出来的,诸如此类。
We've had sort of powerful, emotional-- The first one was a sort of slightly ironic look at what creepy stories really are, whether they're true or if they're imagined or something like that.
科学和超自然视角的对比。
Science versus a more paranormal outlook.
第二个故事明显是关于家族历史的感人故事。
Second one was clearly a powerful emotional story about family history.
第三个故事有点像那种平时很理性的人,却无法理解发生在自己身上的这件事。
Third one was kind of like someone who's normally rational who can't understand this thing that happened to them.
而且实际上还挺暖心的。
And it's heartwarming, actually.
是个相当暖心的故事。
Quite a heartwarming story.
那这第四个故事的氛围是什么样的?
What is the tone of this fourth one?
好,这就是亚历克斯写的《书店里的诡异巧合》。
Okay, so this is "Creepy Serendipity at the Bookshop" by Alex.
我们开始吧。
Here we go.
这个故事简直吓死人了,我发誓它完全是真的。
This story is creepy as hell, and I swear it is entirely true.
这里没有鬼魂,也没有僵尸。
No ghosts or zombies here.
那些东西就留给小孩子吧。
Let's leave that stuff for kids.
我要跟你说的这件事,比那还要让人毛骨悚然,更让人不安。
What I'm about to tell you is much more disturbing and unsettling than that.
这件事发生在我独自在圣彼得堡闲逛的时候,因为我就想暂时逃离家人几个小时,跟这座城市面对面地交流一下。
It happened to me when I was out and about walking around St. Petersburg alone because I just wanted to break free from my family for a few hours and communicate with the city face to face.
因为圣彼得堡值得这样对待。
Because St. Petersburg is a city that deserves that.
它曾经是俄罗斯的首都,一个宏伟却又忧郁、阴郁的地方。
It used to be the capital of Russia, a magnificent and yet melancholic, gloomy place.
这座城市有自己的个性。
This city has a character.
它会把你吸引进来,然后随时把你抛弃,或者比你的亲妈抱得还紧,让你永远无法脱身。
It will lure you in and spit you out at the drop of a hat or hug you tighter than your own mother and never let go.
它会跟你玩游戏,如果你不太擅长玩游戏,你可能会觉得一座城市这样做有点不太礼貌。
It plays games with you, and if you're not much of a player, you might find it a bit impolite for a city to do that.
那天,我偶然发现了一个书市,那里有成千上万本独特又古怪的书,还有那种常见的通俗小说、言情、戏剧之类的。
On that day, I stumbled upon a book market where they had thousands of unique and peculiar specimens alongside your typical pulp fiction, romance, drama, and whatnot.
我有个特点,就是在这种地方能轻松待上好几个小时,甚至更久。
One thing about me is that I could easily spend hours and hours on end in places like that.
我得承认,我算不上是个爱读书的人,但把书拿在手里、翻翻书页、欣赏封面,甚至趁老婆不注意的时候买上几本,对我来说都是一种纯粹的享受。
I have to confess, I'm not much of a reader, but holding books in my hands, skimming through pages, admiring the covers, even buying them when my wife is not looking, is one of the purest forms of pleasure for me.
我还喜欢往我的阅读清单里加书。
I also like adding titles onto my reading list.
那些我总有一天会读的书。
The books I will read one day.
一本一本来,虽然慢,但确实会时不时读上一两本。
One at a time, and slowly but surely, I do read a book or two every now and again.
我的阅读清单目前有572本书。
My reading list currently features 572 items.
根据我粗略的估算,我要把这些书全读完,得等到地狱结冰、魔鬼冻在里面的时候。说到这个,我遇到的那件事,就算不是地狱魔王亲自安排的,也跟他脱不了干系。
According to my modest calculations, I will read all of these books by the time hell freezes over with the devil in it Speaking of which, the thing that happened to me was directly related to, if not set up by, his infernal majesty.
我阅读清单上的下一本书是一出叫《浮士德》的戏剧,作者是约翰·沃尔夫冈·冯·歌德,一位著名的德国作家。除了知道他是个聪明人,对魔鬼、人类欲望的本质、自由意志这些话题有见解之外,我对他的了解几乎为零。
The next book on my reading list was a play called "Faust," written by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, a prominent German author whom I know nothing about apart from the fact that he is considered to be a clever man with something to say about the devil, the nature of human desires, free will, and all that.
于是我就站在那里,欣赏着成百上千本书,看看有什么能吸引我的眼球,同时也在琢磨有没有可能找到我想要的那一本。
So there I was, admiring hundreds and hundreds of books, seeing what would catch my eye, and trying to figure out if there was any chance I could find the one I was after.
我不想打扰书商,原因有两个。
I didn't want to disturb the bookseller for two reasons.
第一,那个书商可能真的会把《浮士德》卖给我,那样我欣赏书的美好时光就结束了。
First, the salesman could have actually sold me "Faust," and that would've been the end of my book-admiring session.
因为很明显,一旦你找到了需要的东西,你就该离开了。
Because obviously, as soon as you find what you need, you're supposed to leave.
至少在我这种社交尴尬的人心里是这么想的。
At least that is how it works in the mind of a socially awkward person such as myself.
第二个原因是,书商根本不见踪影,这让我非常满意。
The second reason is that the bookseller was nowhere to be seen, to my great satisfaction.
所以我可以自由自在地浏览,甚至亲手翻阅成百上千本好书,完全没有任何压力。
So I had the liberty of browsing and even holding in my hands hundreds of gems without experiencing any pressure.
没过几分钟,我就注意到余光里有个人影。
Just a couple of minutes later, I noticed a figure in my peripheral vision.
仔细一看,我发现那只是个普通男人,跟我一样随便逛逛,看看有什么。
Upon closer inspection, I concluded it was just a regular man casually looking around and seeing what's what, just like me.
突然,连我自己都没想到,我直接问他知不知道哪里能找到《浮士德》。
Suddenly, and surprising even myself, I immediately asked him if he knew where I could find Faust.
这本身就挺不寻常的,因为我可不是那种会跟陌生人搭话的人。
Now, that is extraordinary in itself because I'm not the sort of person who strikes up a conversation with strangers.
我有点太害羞了,而且一向只管自己的事,真的。
I'm a bit too shy for that and tend to mind my own business, thank you very much.
再说了,这算什么问题啊?
And in addition to that, what kind of question is that?
一个陌生人怎么会知道我要找的书在哪儿呢?
Why would a stranger know where to find a book I needed?
他又不是在那儿工作的。
He doesn't work there.
他又不是书店老板的朋友什么的。
He's not a friend of the owner or anything.
说不定他跟我一样,这辈子就来这一次,以后也不会再来了。
For all I know, he's probably there for the first time and the last time in his entire life, just as I am.
回想起来,我当时脱口而出要找《浮士德》,可能纯粹是为了显摆,想证明自己不是那种只会找动作惊悚片的肤浅读者。
Thinking back, I might have blurted out that I was on a mission to get Faust just out of snobbery, to demonstrate that I wasn't some simpleton looking for an action thriller.
可即便如此,我什么时候变得一见到陌生人就急着展示自己多有文化了?
Even so, since when am I letting strangers know how intellectually developed I am the very second I see them?
我为什么会开口问那句话,到现在都让我想不通。
The reason I opened my mouth does not cease to puzzle me.
但接下来发生的事,至今想起来都让我后背发凉。
But what happened next still sends shivers down my spine to this day.
那个男人看起来像是被雷劈了一样。
The man looked as if he'd been struck by lightning.
他嘴里嘟囔着:“绝对不可能。”
He said something like, "There is no way in hell."
他在背包里翻找了一下,然后掏出了我问的那本书。
He fumbled in his backpack and pulled out the very book I was asking about.
他说他来那个市场,就是为了找个人把这本书卖出去。
He said that he'd come to that market with the sole purpose of finding someone to sell that book to.
我当时很困惑,但我想让那一刻在记忆里显得像电影一样,所以表面上我冷静得很,只是说:“好吧,你现在不是找到了吗?”
I was baffled, but I wanted that moment to look cinematic in my memory, so on the surface, I was as cool as a cucumber, and I just said, "Well, you've found someone now, haven't you?"
然后我拿起书,通过银行应用给他转了一欧元左右,我们就分道扬镳了,之后再也没见过。
I then grabbed the book, sent him something around one euro through a banking app, and we parted ways, never to see each other again.
现在回想起来,我总有一种诡异的感觉,觉得那本书注定要落到我手里。
Now, when I think about that story, I can't shake off an eerie feeling that somehow that book was meant to fall into my hands.
而且考虑到那部剧讲的是魔鬼与学者打交道、买走他的灵魂,我不禁想,那天是不是魔鬼想跟我打交道呢?
And given the context of the play, which is about the devil interacting with a scholar, purchasing his soul, I can't help but wonder, wasn't the devil trying to interact with me that day?
故事讲完了。
The end.
好的。
Okay.
那这个故事的氛围是什么样的?
So what's the tone of that story?
听众朋友们,你们怎么看?
What do you make of that, listeners?
我给大家简单总结一下。
Let me give you a quick summary.
这是一个既神秘又幽默的故事,是亚历克斯写的。他当时在圣彼得堡随便逛逛书市,无意中向一个陌生人打听哪里能找到《浮士德》这本书,也就是他一直在找的那本。
So this is a mysterious and humorous story written by Alex, who was casually exploring a book market in St. Petersburg when he unexpectedly asked a stranger where he could find a copy of "Faust," which is the book he was looking for.
没想到,那个陌生人背包里正好有这本书,而且他来书市就是为了把这本书卖给别人。
Amazingly, the stranger had that exact book in his backpack and had come to the market specifically to sell it to someone.
亚历克斯花了大约一欧元买下了这本书,但这次离奇的巧合让他一直耿耿于怀。
Alex bought the book for about one euro, but the extraordinary coincidence has troubled him ever since.
因为《浮士德》讲的是一个人和魔鬼做交易的故事,亚历克斯不禁怀疑,他们那次相遇是不是有什么超自然的力量在起作用。
Because "Faust" is a story about a man who makes a deal with the devil, Alex can't help wondering whether something supernatural was involved in their meeting.
他觉得那是魔鬼在暗中操控。
He felt the devil's hand at work.
所以表面上看,这其实只是个巧合的故事,对吧?
So on the face of it, this is actually just the story of a coincidence, right?
不过我很喜欢Alex描绘出的那种充满幽默、自嘲和戏剧性的生动画面,还暗示着这里有邪恶魔法在作祟。
But I do like the way that Alex has painted a much more colorful picture with lots of humor and self-deprecation and drama and suggestions of evil magic at work here.
总之,是的,他忍不住怀疑其中是否有什么超自然的力量介入。
So anyway, yes, he couldn't help wondering whether something supernatural was involved.
他感觉像是魔鬼在暗中操纵。
He felt the devil's hand at work.
其实读完这个故事后,我挺想知道更多的,所以我给Alex发了邮件,想了解一下这之后到底发生了什么。
Now, I wanted to know more, actually, after reading this, so I emailed Alex to find out what the consequences of this have been, right?
既然他在这么诡异的 circumstances 下得到了这本书,那自从以这种阴森又神秘的方式拥有这本黑暗神秘的书籍以来,都发生了些什么呢?
Now that he's in possession of this book in such creepy circumstances, what has happened since coming into possession of this dark and mysterious book in such dark and mysterious circumstances?
他那天是不是跟魔鬼签了什么契约?
Did he make some kind of pact with the devil that day?
那个契约到底是什么性质的?
What is the nature of that pact?
读了这本邪书的文字之后,亚历克斯获得了什么力量和秘密?
What powers and secrets have been revealed to Alex upon reading the words of this unholy text?
他自己是不是也成了著名作家?
Has he become a famous writer himself?
他现在是不是成了百万富翁,成了下一个斯蒂芬·金,或者在别的领域发现了无尽的财富?
Is he now a millionaire, the next Stephen King, or has he found untold riches in some other area?
但他的灵魂现在是不是已经归魔鬼所有了?
But is his soul now in the possession of the devil himself?
为了这份来自圣诞老人的恩赐,亚历克斯付出了什么代价?
What price has Alex had to pay for this honor from Saint Nick?
我想知道一切,所以就问了他。
I wanted to know everything, and so I asked him.
他回复了,你猜怎么着?
He replied, and guess what?
他到现在还没读那本书。
He still hasn't read the book.
所以我们不知道,就是这样。
So we don't know There you go.
所以亚历克斯的故事基调是幽默的,大体上很幽默,但中间还是有一个既让人好奇又有点毛骨悚然的巧合。
So the tone of Alex's story there was humorous, broadly humorous, but with still a curious and creepy coincidence in the middle of it too.
就是这样。
There you go.
那就是亚历克斯在书店的意外发现。
That was Alex's Serendipity at the Bookshop.
接下来是九个中的第五个。
Moving on to number five out of nine.
这个叫《鬼魂的治疗》。
This is Therapy of a Ghost.
这篇是米拉写的,M-I-R-A。
This one by Mira, M-I-R-A.
米拉,《鬼魂的治疗》。
Mira, Therapy of a Ghost.
好,那我开始读这篇了。
Okay, let me start reading this one then.
开始吧。
Here we go.
卢克,我不确定你会不会认可这个故事,因为它看起来有点吓人,但其实并不是。
I'm not sure you will acknowledge this story, Luke, because it seems to be creepy, but in truth, it isn't.
也许它更多是神秘而不是吓人,而且全都是真的。
Perhaps it's more mysterious than creepy, and it is all true.
所以这是一个真实的故事,不管你信不信。
So this is a true story, whether you believe it or not.
这件事发生在十多年前,当时我参与翻修伦敦一栋老式维多利亚风格的房子。
It happened over 10 years ago when I was involved in the renovation of an old Victorian house in London.
你知道那种房子长什么样。
You know what such houses look like.
从外面看显得很大,但里面感觉狭窄,可能是因为高天花板和内部布局的关系。
They seem large when you look from outside, but inside they feel narrow, perhaps because of the high ceilings and the internal layout.
这栋房子周围有一个大花园,里面长满了灌木丛和没人打理的树。
This house was surrounded by a large garden full of bushes and neglected trees.
它有四层楼,也就是四层,包括地下室、底层、一楼和阁楼。
It had four storeys, that's four floors, a basement, a ground floor, a first floor, and an attic.
几步台阶通向一扇旧门。
A few steps led to an old door.
一进门,你就发现自己站在一个相当狭窄的门厅里。
When you entered, you found yourself in a rather narrow hall.
左边只有一堵墙,尽头有一扇小窗户,然后有楼梯通向地下室。
On the left, there was just a wall with a small window at the end, and then stairs leading down to the basement.
右边又是一堵墙,然后是通往客厅的门,再往上走是楼梯,通向一个平台,平台上有两扇门,分别通向两个房间,再往上走还有楼梯通向阁楼。
On the right, a wall again, then doors to the saloon, and further stairs leading upstairs to a landing with two doors to two rooms, and then more stairs leading up to the attic.
虽然这栋房子面积很大,但主观上感觉挺挤的。
Although the house was large in square meters, subjectively, it felt tight.
主走廊左边那堵又长又实的墙,以及尽头向下延伸的楼梯,营造出一种不太欢迎人的氛围。
The long, solid wall on the left in the main corridor and the stairs descending at the end did not create a welcoming atmosphere.
你得走进一个房间才能找到稍微大一点的空间,或者爬上楼梯去找。
You had to enter a room to find a slightly larger space or climb the stairs searching for one.
但是楼上的楼梯似乎融入了下一条走廊,给人一种不确定感。
But the upstairs stairs seemed to melt into the next corridor, creating a sense of uncertainty.
而从楼梯往下看,只能看到最初的几级台阶。
While from the stairs down, you could see only the first few steps.
我负责这次翻新。
I was in charge of the renovation.
这个项目是要给房子带来一些光线,让它更现代,并消除那种被忽视的氛围。
The project was to put some light into the house, to make it more modern, and remove the atmosphere of neglect.
事实上,在翻新之前,房子本身就已经让人感觉有点阴森。
In fact, before renovation, the house itself already felt somewhat creepy.
我们非常希望能改变这一点。
We strongly hoped to change that.
一切都经过精心规划,包括颜色、灯具的长度和风格。
Everything was carefully planned, colors, length, and style of lamps.
重要的是在把它从废弃的废墟变成一座漂亮的贵族住宅的同时,保留原有的风格。
It was important to preserve the old style while transforming it from a neglected ruin into a beautiful aristocratic home.
为了实现这样的转变,我们必须改变所有造成房子当前氛围和外观的因素。
To achieve such a transformation, we had to change everything that contributed to the current atmosphere and appearance of the house.
故事发生在入口附近的客厅快要完工的时候。
The story happened when the saloon near the entrance had almost been done.
吊顶降低了,墙壁刷白了,水晶灯很漂亮,地板也换了新的,再加上几件精心挑选的家具,整个房间看起来就像公主的卧室,和之前相比完全认不出来了。
With a lowered ceiling, white walls, beautiful crystal lamps, a new floor, and a few carefully chosen pieces of furniture, it looked like a bedroom for a princess and was completely unrecognizable compared to before.
而且它和房子的其他部分形成了鲜明的对比。
It also stood in sharp contrast to the rest of the house.
也许是整天工作的疲惫,也许是别的原因,但走廊的施工现在进展不顺利。
Maybe it was the exhaustion from the whole day's work or maybe something else, but the work on the corridor did not go smoothly now.
任务看起来很简单,就是重新粉刷墙壁。
The task seemed simple, to repaint the wall.
然而,要做到这一点,必须先撕掉墙纸,而墙壁似乎强烈地抗拒着。
However, to do that, the wallpaper had to be removed first, and the wall seemed to strongly resist.
墙纸贴得特别牢,工人们得用各种办法,甚至用蛮力才能开始撕下来。
The wallpaper clung stubbornly, and the workers had to use various tricks and even force to begin removing it.
每撕下一块墙纸,就会带下一块灰泥,露出下面旧的花纹和颜色。
With every torn strip of wallpaper, a piece of plaster came off as well, revealing old patterns and colors beneath.
但撕掉一层,下面还有一层,接着又是一层。
But under one layer, another appeared, and then another.
它们一层接一层地冒出来,好像永远也撕不完。
They emerged one by one as if there were infinitely many of them.
最后,一天的工作结束了,只剩下一个工人瓦尔德克,想多赚点外快。
Eventually, the working day ended, and only one worker remained, Waldek, hoping to earn some extra money.
显然,这房子几十年没翻修过了,本来只是重新刷个墙这么简单的事,结果变成了一场费劲的折腾,就为了弄出一面平整、能刷漆的墙。
Obviously, the house had not been renovated for decades when a simple task like repainting the wall turned into a struggling attempt to achieve a smooth, paintable surface.
我看得目瞪口呆。
I watched in awe.
一层层的墙纸,仿佛在诉说着过去的岁月和曾经住在这里的人。
Layers revealed a touch to past years and past lives.
有一段时间,墙上只是粉色的。
There were times of just pink.
那时候谁会住在这里呢?
Who could have lived here then?
然后是强烈的黑白图案,接着是灰色调。
Then strong black and white patterns, then gray tones.
看起来没完没了。
It seemed endless.
晚上十点,瓦尔德克坐在楼梯上休息,拿出一瓶能量饮料。
At 10:00 PM, Waldek sat on the stairs to rest and took out a bottle of an energy drink.
我站在旁边,看着被破坏的墙壁,想着流逝的岁月和未知的生活。
I stood nearby, looking at the devastated wall, thinking about passing years and unknown lives.
突然,瓦尔德克转向我,声音颤抖着。
Suddenly, Waldek turned to me with a trembling voice.
“你听到了吗?”
"Do you hear that?"
“什么?”
"What?"
我刚才想得太入神了,什么都没注意到。
I'd been so lost in thought that I hadn't noticed anything.
“有敲门声。
"There's a knock.
有人在楼上敲门。
Someone is knocking upstairs.
你听。”
Listen."
然后我听到了,某个地方传来清晰的敲门声,像是有人在敲木门。
Then I heard it, a clear knocking sound somewhere, like someone striking a wooden door.
“是的,我听到了,”我说。
"Yes, I hear it," I said.
“你不害怕吗?”
"Are you not afraid?"
瓦尔德克问道。
Waldek asked.
“嗯,我听到了。
"Well, I hear it.
有人在敲门,”我回答。
There is knocking," I replied.
“那又怎样?”
"So what?"
敲门声又响了起来。
The knocking repeated.
“什么叫那又怎样?”
"What do you mean, so what?"
“就是有人在敲门。
"Well, there's knocking.
我听到了,所以我知道。”
I hear it, so I acknowledge it.
就这样。
That's all.
没有别的了。"
Nothing more."
"对不起,我今天不能再工作了,"他说着,收拾起自己的东西。
"Sorry, I can't work any more today," he said, gathering his things.
"你真的不怕吗?"
"You're really not afraid?"
"不怕,"我说,"我不怕敲门声。"
"No," I said, "I'm not afraid of knocking."
于是瓦尔德克走了,我一个人留在房子里。
So Waldek left, and I stayed alone in the house.
我在新装修的客厅里睡了。
I went to sleep in the newly renovated saloon.
我再也没听到敲门声了。
I didn't hear the knocking anymore.
他一走,敲门声就停了。
It stopped when he left.
也许是那个房间的门隔音更好,或者他只是想吓唬我。
Maybe the room's door was more soundproof, or he wanted just to scare me.
我也没在意。
I didn't care.
我就睡着了。
I fell asleep.
那天太累了,我很快就睡着了。
I must have fallen asleep quickly, tired from the day.
然后我做了一个奇怪的梦。在梦里,我并没有睡着,而是站在墙前,看着墙上的层一层一层地剥落。
Then I had a strange dream In my dream, I was not asleep, but standing before the wall, watching how the layers on it fell apart one after another.
不只是油漆层和墙纸,还有灰泥、砖块,一层又一层,直到露出原始的木质结构。
Not just painting layers and wallpapers, but plaster, bricks, and more bricks until the raw wooden structure remained.
那结构是中空的,就像支撑起一切的骨架。
It was hollow, like a skeleton on which everything had been built.
风从中穿过,但我感到温暖。
Wind moved through it, but I felt warmth.
对我来说,那是一阵温暖的风。
It was a warm wind for me.
然后我非常真切地感觉到有人的存在,我知道那是曾在这栋房子里住了多年、无法离开的人,是我们拆迁时唤出来的。
Then I felt very vividly the presence of somebody, and I knew it was someone who'd lived in this house for years and can't leave, someone we called out by our demolition.
我并不害怕所谓的鬼魂。
I'm not afraid of so-called ghosts.
我甚至不确定自己是否相信它们。
I don't even know if I believe in them.
我只是不去质疑自己经历的事情。
I simply do not question the experiences I go through.
而且因为我是心理治疗师,我感受到了这个存在的痛苦和深深的孤独,我想安慰它。
And because I'm a therapist, I felt the pain and deep loneliness of this presence, and I wanted to comfort it.
所以我在梦里问它:“你需要什么?
So I asked it in my dream, "What do you need?
你想要什么吗?
Do you want something?
你害怕吗?
Are you scared?"
那一刻,木结构上出现了一颗心,一颗大大的心,像是用颤抖的手画出来的,我明白了它需要什么。
At that moment, a heart appeared on the wooden structure, a large heart, as if painted by an unsteady hand, and I knew what it needed.
我说:“我明白了,我认出你了。
"I see," I said, "I recognize you.
如果可以的话,请告诉我你的名字。”
Tell me your name if you can, please."
然后我脑海里感觉到了特蕾莎这个名字。
And then I felt the name Teresa in my mind.
它没有被写下来。
It wasn't written.
我只是直接接收到信息,这就是特蕾莎。
I simply received the direct information that this is Teresa.
“别担心,”我说,“我会记住你的。”
"Don't worry," I said, "I will remember you."
温暖的风环绕了我一会儿,然后就消失了。
The warm wind surrounded me for a moment, and that was it.
早上醒来,团队回来工作时,我开始寻找特蕾莎。
When I woke up in the morning and my team returned to work, I began to search for Teresa.
我找到信息的速度比预想的要快。
I found the information sooner than I expected.
那是以前一位住户妻子的名字。
It was the name of the wife of one of the former inhabitants.
他们没有孩子,她以坚强、内敛著称,不太友好,相当严厉,令人难忘。
They had no children, and she was known as a strong, reserved woman, not very friendly, rather strict, and unforgettable.
我还得知,房子的最后一位主人有个女儿,她常说没人在的时候感觉有人轻轻摸她的头。
I also learned that the last owner of the house had a daughter who often claimed she felt a gentle touch on her head when no one else was around.
她妈妈不相信这种事,告诉她那是她胡思乱想,但我知道那是特蕾莎,她很高兴房子里有个孩子。
Her mother didn't believe in such things, so she told her that she was imagining things, but I knew it was Teresa, happy that a child was in the house.
后来,我去了墓地,找到了她被人遗忘的坟墓,在上面放了花和蜡烛。
Later on, I went to the cemetery, found her forgotten grave, and put flowers and candles on it.
翻修工作顺利完成,没有再出什么岔子,房子也卖掉了。
The renovation was finished without any further disturbances, and the house was sold.
但问题依然存在:我的梦真的只是个梦,还是说那是被我们清醒的意识所掩盖的现实?
Still, the question remains, was my dream just a dream, or was it reality hidden before our critical conscious mind?
我发现特蕾莎纯粹是巧合,还是我真的帮助了一个因未被原谅、未被爱而无法安息的灵魂?
Was my discovery of Teresa a pure coincidence, or have I really helped a soul who could not rest unforgiven and unloved?
谁知道呢?
Who knows?
这是米拉的故事。
That is from Mira.
好了,听众朋友们,你们觉得这个故事怎么样?
Okay, listeners, what do you think of that one?
你们怎么看?
What do you make of that?
这太不寻常了。
That's extraordinary.
它们都很不寻常。
They're all extraordinary.
这些都是精彩非凡的故事。
All of these are wonderful and extraordinary stories.
非常感谢所有给我写信分享这些故事的人。
Thank you so much for everyone who wrote to me with these.
各位,我希望你们喜欢这些内容,因为我觉得这些真的很特别。
Everyone, I hope that you're enjoying this because this is special stuff, I think.
简单总结一下。
A summary of that.
所以我猜这里的米拉是男性,但我可能猜错了。
So I'm assuming that Mira is male here, but I might be wrong.
如果真是这样,如果我错了,米拉,你不是男性,而是女性,那我向你道歉。
And if that is the case, if I'm wrong and Mira, you're not a man, and you're in fact a woman, I apologize.
其实这也不重要,但希望我搞错了的话你别介意。
It doesn't really matter, I suppose, but I hope you don't mind if I got it wrong.
不管怎样,这个故事很棒。
In any case, the story is great.
这是一个神秘又感人的故事,讲的是米拉在伦敦翻新一栋维多利亚老房子时,和工人一起撕墙纸,突然听到莫名其妙的敲击声。
So this is a mysterious and touching story about Mira, who was renovating an old Victorian house in London, and while stripping layers of wallpaper from a wall, he and a worker heard unexplained knocking sounds.
那个工人瓦尔德克吓坏了,就跑了。
The coworker, Waldek, got scared and left.
于是米拉一个人留在了房子里。
And so Mira was left in the house alone.
那天晚上,米拉睡在房子里,做了一个很清晰的梦,梦里他站在之前干活的那面墙前,感觉到一个叫特蕾莎的孤独女人的存在,她似乎渴望爱和认可。
And that night, sleeping in the house, Mira had a vivid dream in which he was standing in front of the wall that they'd been working on earlier, and he sensed the presence of a lonely woman called Teresa, who seemed to want love and recognition.
米拉去调查,大概是查了以前住过的人的资料,发现确实有个叫这个名字的女人住过这栋房子。
When Mira investigated, presumably looking back through the records of who'd lived there previously, he discovered that a woman with that name had really lived in the house.
他还从前房主那里得知,确实,住在那里的女儿讲过一些灵异遭遇,但父母当时不太相信。
And also he learned from the previous owners that indeed, yes, the daughter who'd lived there had told stories of kind of ghostly encounters that the parents hadn't really believed.
但也有一些其他类似诡异事件的证据,还有一个叫特蕾莎的女人曾经住在那里。
But there was some evidence of other similar weird events and a woman called Teresa who used to live there.
所以米拉觉得,那个被特蕾莎造访的奇怪梦境,就是曾经住在那里的特蕾莎。
So Mira decided that this weird dream where he was visited by Teresa, this was the Teresa who'd lived there before.
他去了特蕾莎被遗忘的坟墓,留下了鲜花和蜡烛。
And he visited Teresa's forgotten grave and left flowers and candles.
之后,翻修继续进行,再也没有任何干扰。米拉现在不禁在想,他到底是做了一场奇怪的梦,还是真的帮助了一个孤独女人的灵魂找到了安宁。
Afterwards, the renovation continued without any further disturbances, and Mira is now left wondering whether he simply had a strange dream or whether he had genuinely helped the spirit of a lonely woman find peace.
好,我们接着看第六个。
Okay, let's move on to number six.
这个叫《那个哭泣的婴儿是谁?》
This one is called "Who is that Baby Who is Crying?"
那个哭泣的婴儿是谁?
Who is that Baby Who is Crying?
作者是斯维特兰娜。
And it was by Svetlana.
这就是斯维特兰娜的故事。
So this is Svetlana's story.
我们开始吧。
Here we go.
有时候,一些意想不到的事情会改变你生活的轨迹,把你带入一个全新的现实。
It can happen that certain unexpected circumstances change the current course of your life and put you in a completely new reality.
我就遇到了这样的事。
It happened to me.
突然腹痛,急诊,医院,手术室,然后就没有然后了。
Sudden onset of abdominal pain, emergency room, hospital, operating room, and then nothing.
我恢复意识时,首先感觉到的是天花板上射下来的强光,刺得我睁不开眼。
The reconstitution of my consciousness started with the feeling of a very intense light striking from the ceiling and preventing me from opening my eyes normally.
一阵有节奏的、机械的、没完没了的哔哔声不断提醒我,我周围都是机器。
A rhythmic, mechanical, endless beep, beep sound kept explaining to me how I was surrounded by machines.
我躺在床上。
I was lying in the bed.
我的两条手臂上都插着输液管。
From each of my arms, an infusion tube came out.
鼻子里有种很奇怪的感觉。
A very strange feeling in my nose.
还有一根管子从鼻子和喉咙穿过,我一意识到这一点就开始咳嗽。
Another tube passed through my nose and throat, and the moment I became aware of it, I started coughing.
天哪,太疼了!
Oh, Lord, what pain!
胃里疼得喘不过气来。
Breathless pain in my stomach.
我试着用手去摸,发现肚子上全是绷带。
I tried to touch it with my hand and realized that there were bandages all over it.
“冷静点。
"Calm down.
别动,亲爱的。”
Don't move, my dear."
我听到一个温柔的声音。
I could hear a gentle voice.
床边坐着一位年轻迷人的女士,她是一位护士,面容慈祥,还有一双蓝色的大眼睛,让人感到安心。
The young, charming woman was sitting by my bed, a nurse with a compassionate face and big blue comforting eyes.
“我是塔尼娅。”
"I'm Tanya.
“你感觉怎么样?”
How are you?"
“你能把灯关了吗?”
"Could you turn off the light, please?"
我说。
I said.
“很遗憾,我不能。”
"Unfortunately, I can't.
我们在重症监护室,病人必须被监护。
We're in the intensive care unit, and patients must be monitored.
对不起,"她回答说。
I'm sorry," she replied.
"那至少把灯光调暗一点行吗?"
"Could you dim it, at least?"
我几乎是在哀求了。
I was almost begging.
"真的很抱歉,但这是不可能的。"
"I'm deeply sorry, but it's not possible."
我闭上眼睛,感到被抛弃、绝望,仿佛自己是世界上最孤独的人。
I closed my eyes and felt abandoned, hopeless, and as if I were the loneliest being in the world.
然后我意识到,除了那些机器发出的哔哔声,还有另一种声音——婴儿的哭声。
Then I realized that at the same time, there was another sound present besides the artificial beep, beep sounds, a baby's cry.
有个婴儿在哭,我觉得那就像是我内心情感的回应。
A baby was crying, and it felt to me like an echo of my emotions.
还有人也同样孤独和绝望,不知怎的,我能和那个人分享那种感受,尽管那是个小婴儿。
Someone else was also lonely and desperate, and somehow I could share that feeling with that other person, although a small one.
我再次睁开眼睛,塔尼亚护士还在那里。
I opened my eyes again, and Nurse Tanya was still there.
一双温柔的蓝眼睛正看着我。
Gentle blue eyes were looking at me.
我含着泪说:“太疼了。”
"It hurts a lot," I said with tears.
“亲爱的,你要坚强。
"Darling, you must be strong.
你已经用了最大剂量的止痛药,我们得等你的身体准备好接受下一次用药。”
You were given the highest doses of painkillers, and we have to wait until your body is ready to receive another one."
她握住我的手。
She took my hand in hers.
婴儿的哭声还在继续。
The baby's crying continued.
哔哔声还在响着。
Beep, beep sounds continued.
疼痛还在继续。
The pain continued.
护士手上的温暖让我能撑下去。
The warmth of the nurse's hands made the waiting possible for me.
我闭着眼睛。
My eyes were closed.
婴儿的哭声变得让人心烦。
The baby's crying became disturbing.
有没有更多的手去照顾那个小宝宝?
Were there some more hands for that little child?
有一刻,我感觉有别人在,就睁开了眼睛。
At one moment, I could feel the presence of someone else, and I opened my eyes.
一位医生站在我的床边。
A doctor was standing by my bed.
“嗨,你怎么样?”
"Hi, how are you?"
她问道。
She asked.
“很疼。”
"It hurts a lot."
“是的,我知道。
"Yes, I know.
你得坚强一点。
You have to be strong.
今晚很难熬,但明天会好起来的,”她说。
Tonight is difficult, but tomorrow will be better," she said.
“医生,我能问你一个问题吗?”
"Doctor, can I ask you something?"
我说。
I said.
“当然可以。
"Sure.
什么事?"
What is it?"
"有人能帮帮那个整夜哭个不停的小可怜吗?"
"Can anyone help that poor baby who cries so much all night, please?"
"婴儿?"
"Baby?"
她用一种意想不到的语气重复道。
She repeated with an unexpected tone of voice.
"是的,婴儿,"我说。
"Yes, baby," I said.
"你没听到那个婴儿在哭吗?"
"Don't you hear that baby crying?"
我有种感觉,自己好像做错了什么。
I had a feeling that I'd done something wrong.
"没有婴儿。
"There's no baby.
我们这是在成人病房。
We're in the adult ward.
这里没有婴儿。
There are no babies here."
医生一脸严肃地回答。
The doctor answered with a very serious face.
我说不清那一刻的痛苦和恐惧哪个更让我难受。
I cannot say whether the terrible pain that I felt or that moment was harder for me.
我仍然能听到婴儿的哭声。
I could still hear the baby crying.
我开始感到非常困惑和害怕。
I started to be very confused and afraid.
我转头看向塔尼娅,期待她能给我一些支持,却看到一双美丽的蓝眼睛里满是悲伤地望着我。
I turned my head to Tanya, expecting support from her, and saw two beautiful blue eyes full of sorrow watching me.
她沉默不语,比任何话语都更能说明问题。
The silence from her side said more than any word could.
我闭上眼睛,感到一片茫然。
I closed my eyes and felt lost.
我宁愿付出一切,只要能逃离那个地方。
I would have given anything to escape from that place.
到底发生了什么?
What was going on?
我是不是疯了?
Was I losing my mind?
我没有理由不相信他们。
I didn't have a reason not to believe them.
我也没有理由不相信自己。
I didn't have a reason not to believe myself.
我也开始哭了起来。
I started to cry, too.
就在那一刻,仿佛有什么东西突然明白了。
And at that moment, a kind of revelation happened.
那是我。
It was me.
从头到尾都是婴儿时期的我在哭。
It was baby me crying the whole time.
我住的那家医院以前是妇产医院,正好是我出生的那家。
The hospital I was in used to be a maternity hospital, exactly the one that I was born in.
那是很多年前刚出生的我在哭,刚和妈妈分开,又孤独又害怕。
It was the newborn me crying many, many years earlier, just separated from my mum, lonely and terrified.
就在那一刻,婴儿的哭声停了。
At that moment, the baby's crying stopped.
我真的不知道是什么让我产生了那种联想,但那一刻,直到现在,对我来说都那么合乎逻辑,是唯一的真相,唯一可能的现实。
I really didn't know what made me make that connection, but at that moment, and all the way until now, it seemed so logical to me and the only truth, the only possible reality.
第二天早上,我听到医生在跟她的同事说我晚上出现了幻听,当时她正在观察我。
The next morning, I could hear the doctor telling her colleagues how I had had audio hallucinations during the night while she was observing me.
我还听到另一个声音在说某些药物的副作用。
I could also hear another voice saying something about side effects of some drugs.
但对我来说,那完全不重要。
But for me, it was totally irrelevant.
我有我的经历。
I had my experience.
那是真实的。
It was real.
那是独一无二的。
It was unique.
即使后来,如果我向别人提起我生命中那个特别的夜晚——而且我只跟少数人提过——我也会毫不犹豫地用陈述事实的语气去说。
Even later, if I spoke to someone about that special night of my life, and that happened with only a few people, I would use an informative tone without hesitation.
我不会给任何后续的解释或对我经历的其他解读留出空间。
I didn't leave space for any subsequent explanations or other interpretations of my experience.
出院几个月后,我完全康复了,我想去看望塔尼娅,感谢她在医院那个难熬的夜晚为我所做的一切。
A few months after I left the hospital and recovered totally, I wanted to visit Tanya and thank her for all that she'd done for me during that heavy night in the hospital.
我买了一束花,去了医院。
I bought some flowers and went to the hospital.
我想知道能不能和重症监护室的一位护士简短聊几句。
"I'd like to know if it's possible to have a short conversation with one of the nurses from the intensive care unit."
我当时在医院前台。
I was at the hospital reception desk.
前台那位先生说:“你不能进去那里。”
"You're not allowed to enter there," said the gentleman at the desk.
“是的,当然,我知道,但你能不能查一下谭雅护士是否在值班,拜托了。”
"Yes, of course, I know that, but if you could check if Nurse Tanya is on shift, please."
说实话,我没想到前台会热情接待我。
Honestly, I didn't expect a warm welcome at the desk.
“等一下。”
"Wait."
那位先生拿起电话,和某人说了几句后,他说:“没有谭雅护士。”我说:“你是说谭雅护士今天不在医院吗?”
The gentleman took the phone, and after a few words he exchanged with someone, he said, "There is no Nurse Tanya "You mean Nurse Tanya is not in the hospital today?"
我试图纠正他。
I tried to correct him.
“医院的情况我不清楚,但重症监护室里没有叫塔尼娅的人,”他回答时声音里带着一丝紧张。
"I don't know about the hospital, but there is no Tanya in the intensive care unit," he answered with a trace of nervousness in his voice.
突然,那个让我永生难忘的夜晚的医生出现在走廊里,正好经过前台。
Suddenly, the doctor from the night I will remember forever appeared in the hallway passing by the desk.
哦,那真是太棒了。
Oh, that was so fantastic.
我真是太幸运了。
I was so lucky.
“打扰一下。”
"Excuse me."
我决定上前跟她说话。
I decided to address her.
“嗯?”
"Yes?"
“我是你的病人。
"I was your patient.
我不知道你还记不记得我。
I don't know if you remember."
她的微笑打断了我的问题。
Her smile interrupted my question.
当然记得。
"Of course I do.
你好吗?
How are you?
很高兴见到你。
Nice to see you."
她的善意让我非常开心。
I was so pleased by her kindness.
我很好,谢谢你。
"I'm great, thank you.
你呢?
How are you?
整个团队怎么样?
How's the whole crew?
坦尼娅护士怎么样?
How's Nurse Tanya?
她人很好,很温柔,也很热心。"
She was so kind and gentle, and helpful."
我继续说着,注意到她的情绪变了。
And as I kept talking, I noticed how her mood changed.
"坦尼娅?"
"Tanya?"
她重复了一遍,这让我想起之前她也曾这样重复过我的话。
she repeated, and that made me recall another moment when she'd also repeated my words in a similar way.
"是的,坦尼娅护士。"
"Yes, Nurse Tanya."
我的热情开始消退。
My enthusiasm started to melt.
你还记得吗?我手术后的那天晚上,她和你同一个班次。
"Do you remember she was on the same shift with you the night after my operation?"
她说:“那天晚上我记得很清楚。”然后她停顿了一下,才继续说。
I remember that night very well," she said, and there was a moment of hesitation before she continued.
“你知道吗,我们科室从来没有过叫这个名字的护士。”
"You know, we never had a nurse with that name in our department."
天哪,这真是个让人震惊的意外。
Oh, what a shocking surprise.
那个阳光明媚的日子,我想感谢那位在我最需要的时候照顾我的善良护士,但现在一切都变了。
No more the beautiful sunny day in which I wanted to thank the kind nurse for taking care of me when I really needed it.
我感到尴尬、困惑,有那么一瞬间,我几乎像住院的那个夜晚一样迷失,直到我意识到自己与过去的自己有着某种难以言说的联系。
I felt embarrassed, confused, and for a moment, almost lost as the night when I was in the hospital just before I realized that I'd had a kind of inexplicable connection with myself from the past.
但这次,我可以逃离那个地方,我也确实这么做了。
But this time I could escape that place, and I did it.
我简短地说了句:“哦,抱歉。”
After a short, "Oh, sorry.
拜拜,我就直接走出去离开了。
Bye," I just went out and walked away.
哎呀,斯维特兰娜,这真是一次非同寻常的经历。
Well, Svetlana, oh, what an extraordinary experience.
听众朋友们,让我来总结一下,然后简单说几点看法。
Listeners, let me summarize it, and then I'll just give a couple of comments.
所以斯维特兰娜在这个故事里,因为紧急手术——跟胃有关——醒来时躺在医院的重症监护室或重症病房里。
So Svetlana, in this story, wakes up in an intensive care unit or intensive care ward in a hospital after having emergency surgery, something to do with her stomach.
但她醒来后做了紧急手术。
But she woke up and had emergency surgery.
可能是阑尾破裂之类的情况。
Maybe it was like a burst appendix or something like that.
恢复期间,她听到婴儿的哭声,所以她非常不舒服,而且很疼。
While recovering, she hears a baby crying, so she's very uncomfortable and in a lot of pain.
在恢复过程中,躺在医院的病床上,在病房里,她听到婴儿在哭。
And in the recovery, lying on this hospital bed, in this hospital ward, she hears a baby crying.
尽管医生坚持说医院里没有婴儿,她却越来越确信自己听到的是自己刚出生时的哭声,而且就在她出生的那家医院。
Even though the doctors insist there are no babies in the hospital, she becomes convinced that she is somehow hearing herself crying as a newborn baby in the very hospital where she was born.
好吧,这挺诡异的,对吧?
Okay, this is pretty weird stuff, right?
我也不确定这到底是不是超自然现象。
Now, I don't know if this is exactly supernatural or what.
斯维特兰娜没有多谈这个。
Svetlana doesn't really talk about that.
她只是说,对她来说,那可能是个幻觉,但真是个奇怪的幻觉。
She just talks about the fact that for her, it was probably a hallucination, but what a bizarre hallucination.
我想,从全身麻醉中醒来时出现这样的幻觉,就像我们之前在播客里聊过的那个故事,那个人叫什么来着?
I suppose hallucinations like that when you're coming out of having had a general anesthetic, as we've talked about before on this podcast, in the case of this story of, what was his name?
我记不清了。
I can't remember.
但第799集里,有个类似的故事。
But episode 799, there was a similar story.
总之,这种情况偶尔会发生。
Anyway, this happens sometimes.
当一个人接受了全身麻醉,从麻醉中恢复过来可能会非常混乱,而且可能会伴随很多让人迷失方向的幻觉,尤其是如果还使用了像吗啡这样强效的止痛药。
When someone has had a general anesthetic, recovering from the anesthetic can be very confusing, and it can involve a lot of disorientating hallucinations, especially if you're being given powerful painkillers like morphine.
整个过程都可能导致幻觉。
The whole thing can cause hallucinations.
我们通常把幻觉说成只是看到和听到的东西,但我觉得那些幻觉以及那种状态,那种情况,可能是一个非常近乎神秘的地方,在那里真相会以令人惊讶和震撼的方式向你揭示,时间和空间的距离感也会被扭曲。
Now, we talk about hallucinations as if they're just things you see and hear, but I think those hallucinations and that state, that condition, can be a very almost mystical place where truths are revealed to you in surprising and shocking ways, and things like distance in time and space get distorted.
我可以想象,斯维特兰娜在那种情况下,发现自己不知怎么地重新与婴儿时期的自己连接上了,因为她意识到自己其实就在多年前出生的那家医院里,而婴儿的哭声在某种程度上是对她作为新生儿时所经历的创伤的闪回或记忆,那时她刚出生,与母亲分离,正在哭泣。
And I can imagine that Svetlana, in that situation, found herself somehow reconnected with herself as a baby because she realized she was actually in the same hospital that she'd been born in years earlier, and the crying sound of the baby was somehow some sort of flashback or memory of the trauma that she'd experienced as a baby, newly born, separated from her mother, and crying.
她听到的哭声,仿佛是过去经历的回声,而这段经历在她当时的状态下被唤醒了。
And this crying, she could hear it as if it was an echo of a previous experience, which had been brought back to her in this condition that she was in.
这真的很奇怪。
It's very weird.
但结果发现,那其实只是药物的副作用。
But it turns out that, but that was just, we think, a side effect of the medicine.
但斯维特兰娜其实并不在意。
But Svetlana doesn't really care.
她只知道,自己有过一次深刻的体验,而对她来说,那就是真实的。
All she knows is that she had her own profound experience, and it was true for her.
总之,那一整晚,一位名叫塔尼娅的善良护士安慰她,帮她应对疼痛。
Anyway, throughout the night, a kind nurse called Tanya comforts her and helps her to cope with the pain.
然而,几个月后,斯维特兰娜康复了,她回到医院想感谢塔尼娅。
However, when Svetlana returns months later, after she's recovered, she comes back to the hospital to thank Tanya.
结果她发现,重症监护室里从来没有一个叫这个名字的人工作过。
She discovers that nobody by that name has ever worked in the intensive care unit.
故事以两个未解之谜结束:那个哭泣的婴儿,以及那位似乎从未存在过的护士。
The story ends with two unexplained mysteries, the crying baby and the nurse who apparently never existed.
我个人的看法是,这些都是药物引起的幻觉,而且我觉得,正如我所说,这类幻觉往往带有强烈的情感氛围,这大概也是药物能产生如此深远影响的原因之一。
My personal theory is that they were hallucinations caused by medication, and I think that those, as I've said, those sorts of hallucinations can have powerful emotional atmospheres to them as well, okay, and which probably is part of why drugs can have such profound effects.
它们不只是让你产生幻觉什么的。
They don't just give you hallucinations and things.
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