93. 奇怪……还是只是不同？（与詹姆斯和亚伦）

好的。

Okay.

非常棒。

Very nice.

那你为什么在帐篷里住了六个月呢？

And so how come you were living in a tent for six months?

哦，这说来话长。

Oh, that's It's a long story.

好的。

Okay.

但简单说，你当时是住在帐篷里的。

But let's just say you were living in a tent.

是的。

But Yeah.

那法国的生活方式呢？

What about the French lifestyle?

有什么让你觉得特别奇怪或不寻常的地方吗？

Was there anything that struck you as being a bit odd or stranger?

我不这么认为，尤其是关于法国人，因为作为英国人，我们从小就很熟悉，该怎么说呢？

I don't think so, particularly about the French, because we kind of as English people, we grow up with quite a familiar quite how can I put it?

我的意思是，我们对法国文化相当熟悉。

I mean, we're quite familiar with French culture.

没错。

Exactly.

所以我们预期去超市时，会买些美味的布里奶酪和一根法棍当午餐。

So we expect to, you know, to go to the supermarket and buy some nice brie and a bit of and a bit of a a baguette for lunch.

是的。

Yeah.

你知道，这很正常。

You know, that's quite normal.

所以我认为你很容易适应法国的生活方式，因为你对它已经很熟悉了。

So I think it's you adapt to French the French rustle quite quite easily because you're quite au fait with it.

好的。

Okay.

对。

Yeah.

荷兰与英国文化也有很多相似之处。

Holland, again, is has a great deal of similarities to to to to the culture of the British.

对。

Yeah.

不过有点怪异。

Although it's slightly skew whiff.

怪异？

Skew whiff?

对。

Yeah.

你什么意思？

What do you mean?

嗯，这就像有一种……

Well, it's there's a it's like a there's a kind of

有些事情略有不同。

Some things are slightly different.

有些，是的。

Some yeah.

有些事情相同，但略有差异。

Some things are the same with a slight difference.

好的。

Okay.

那举些例子呢？

So what examples?

很明显，像咖啡馆这样的地方，你知道，虽然现在可能没那么普遍了，但我说的是很久以前，荷兰每个城市都有些区域，你可以去那里吸大麻，这完全没问题，也不被排斥。

Quite obviously, there's things like coffee shops where, you know, probably less so nowadays, I'm going back quite a long time, where, you know, each city in Holland has areas where you can go and smoke cannabis, and that's perfectly fine and not really frowned upon.

是的。

Yeah.

我刚搬到荷兰时觉得奇怪的一件事是，那里有这种小型自动售货机。

One of the things that I found strange when I first moved to Holland was the you have these little, like, vending machines.

嗯。

Mhmm.

它们卖的不是一包薯片或巧克力棒，而是——

And rather than selling packets of crisps or, like, chocolate bars Yeah.

你当时投的是盾币，不是欧元，投几枚盾币，打开一个小门，就能拿到弗里肯达尔或克罗克特，这些是肉质小吃，有点像奶酪香肠或奇怪的汉堡，搭配一种叫‘kitch up’或者‘two’的酱料吃。

You put, like, what was then Gilders, actually, not euros, and you put, like, a couple of Gilders in, and you open this little door, and you get either Frickindale or Crockett, and they're like these kind of meat based snacks, like a kind of cheesy sausage thing or or a kind of weird burger, and and you have them with, like, ki it's called kitch up, I think, or two.

这其实就是一种奇怪的蛋黄酱、番茄酱和番茄沙司的混合物，对吧。

It's basically some kind of weird mayonnaise, tomato, ketchup hybrid Right.

我觉得这很奇怪，但我其实特别喜欢这种犒劳自己吃一个炸肉丸的感觉。

Which I find really odd, but I actually really it there was something really nice about treating yourself to a freaking adult croquette.

所以我猜对你来说奇怪的是，在英国，我们不会有那种自动售货机卖新鲜食物、肉类或奶酪制品。

So I imagine the the strange thing for you is that, well, in England, we don't have, like, let's say, fresh food or meat or cheese based products in a vending machine.

你肯定不会有。

You certainly don't.

通常是可乐罐、巧克力棒和薯片。

Usually, cans of Coke or chocolate bars and crisps.

是的。

Yeah.

所以对你来说，从自动售货机里拿出像是新鲜食物的东西很奇怪。

So it's strange to have what felt like fresh food coming out of a machine for you.

嗯，我不会称它为新鲜的。

Well, I wouldn't call it fresh.

对。

Yeah.

热食。

Hot food.

比如热食，像肉或奶酪，是的。

Like hot food, like meat or cheese Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

从机器里出来的。

In coming from a machine.

肉类，基本上就是那种。

Meats, like, basically.

它是一种两者混合的东西。

It was a kind of mixture of both.

一种非常难吃的奶酪。

A cheese highly unpleasant

好的。

Okay.

而且。

And

当你赶时间，只是需要快速吃点东西的时候，还挺不错的。

quite good when you're, you know, when you're in a rush and you just need to kinda eat something quickly.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

好吧。

Alright.

我问你这个问题，是因为我想聊聊当人们第一次接触到其他文化的生活方式时，会觉得很奇怪的体验。

Well, I I ask you that because I thought that we talk about the experience of how how the lifestyle of other cultures when you first encounter it strikes you as being weird.

或者当你听说别人的生活方式时，会觉得那很奇怪。

Or when you hear about the way other people live, you think that's weird.

这些人真奇怪。

These people are strange.

嗯。

Mhmm.

但事实上，当你仔细观察他们的生活方式时，很可能背后都有其原因，他们并不奇怪。

But, actually, when you look at their lifestyle, there is probably a reason for it, and it's not that they're weird.

只是他们和我们不一样而已。

It's just that they're different.

对吧？

Right?

我现在一直在想这个问题，因为我看了一个在TED网站上的视频。

Now I've been thinking about this because I saw a video on the website TED.

我不知道你

I don't know if

是否知道TED。

you're aware of TED.

不知道。

No.

我没听说过。

I'm not.

这是一个在美国举办的会议，他们把演讲内容发布在互联网上。

There it's it's I think it's a conference in America, and they publish their their talks on on the Internet.

我认为TED是技术、教育、设计的缩写。

And TED, I think, stands for technology education design.

听起来像是某个邪恶组织的幌子。

So Sounds like a front for some evil organisation.

你觉得是这样吗？

You think so?

是的。

Yeah.

这根本不是邪恶的。

It's it's not evil at all.

实际上非常好，因为他们免费分享所有的想法之类的东西。

It's actually really good because they they share all their ideas for free and stuff.

真的非常好。

It's it's really good.

他们关于山达基教的想法。

Their ideas on Scientology.

完全没有涉及山达基教。

There's no Scientology involved.

那是谁？

Who is that?

真有这个人叫泰德吗？

Is there actually a Ted?

有一个主要的泰德。

There is a main Ted.

人物。

Person.

不。

No.

没有叫泰德的人。

There's no person called Ted.

就像一个巨大的邪恶泰迪熊。

It's like a giant evil teddy bear.

是的。

Yeah.

它正在试图

It's trying

统治世界。

to take over the world.

我觉得听起来还不错。

I reckon that sounded alright.

我不觉得 Mech Mech

I don't think Mech Mech

机械泰德。

Mech Ted.

机械机械。

Mech Mech.

就像电影《阿基拉》那样。

Like Akira, the film Akira.

你看过吗？

Have you seen that?

是的。

Yes.

我看过。

I have.

好吧。

Okay.

它是个巨大的泰迪熊。

It's a giant teddy bear.

什么？阿基拉熊？

What what Akira bears?

我不知道我的听众中有没有人知道阿基拉，除了那些在日本了解阿基拉的人。

I don't know if any of my listeners, except for those people in Japan who know about Akira.

阿基拉？

Akira?

会知道我哥哥的阿基拉

Will know what my brother's Akira

在全球范围内相当有名。

is pretty well globally known.

你这么认为吗？

You think so?

我相信你会惊讶于知道《阿基拉》的人其实并不多。

And you'd be surprised that how not many people will know about Akira, I think.

不管怎样，这是部日本动漫，你不能称之为

Anyway, it's a it's a Japanese cartoon, You which can't call

不能叫它动漫。

it a cartoon.

漫画。

Manga.

抱歉。

Sorry.

它是部漫画。

It's a manga.

动画

Anime.

动画

Anime.

是的

Yeah.

好的

Alright.

好吧，泰德，不管怎样吧。

Well, Ted, anyways, whatever.

它也在YouTube上。

It's also on YouTube.

这是由一个叫德里克·西弗斯或西弗斯的人做的演示。

It's a it's a presentation by a guy called Derek Sievers or Sivers.

所以我是西弗斯。

So I'm Sievers.

我是说，德里克·西弗斯。

I mean, Derek Sievers.

就是西弗斯。

Like Sievers.

好的。

Okay.

是的。

Yeah.

我相信他来自美国。

He's I believe he's from The States.

他也可能是来自加拿大。

He could be from Canada.

对。

Right.

这个演讲的标题很奇怪，或者说是与众不同。

And the title of the presentation is weird or just different.

那我们来看一下，然后我们再讨论其中的一些内容。

So let's have a look at it, and then we're gonna talk about various bits of

我们不会去看。

We're not gonna have a look.

你才会。

You're gonna

我们会看一下。

We're gonna have a look.

我们会看一下，而且会听一下。

We're gonna have a look and and listen.

是的。

Yeah.

你将在播客里听到这个，然后我们再讨论。

Be able to you'll be able to hear this on the podcast, and then we'll talk about it.

好吗？

Alright?

这是视频。

So here's the video.

值得传播。

Worth spreading.

嗯嗯。

Mhmm.

想象一下，你正站在美国任何一条街上，一个日本男人走过来对你说：打扰一下。

So imagine you're standing on a street anywhere in America, and a Japanese man comes up to you and says, excuse me.

这个街区叫什么名字？

What is the name of this block?

我说：不好意思。

And you say, I'm sorry.

哦，这是橡树街。

Well, this is Oak Street.

那是榆树街。

That's Elm Street.

这是第26街。

This is 26th.

那是第27街。

That's 27th.

他说，好的。

He says, okay.

但那个街区叫什么名字？

But what is the name of that block?

他说，街区是没有名字的。

He say, well, blocks don't have names.

街道才有名字。

Streets have names.

街区只是街道之间没有名称的区域。

Blocks are just the unnamed spaces in between streets.

他有点困惑和失望地离开了。

He leaves a little confused and disappointed.

现在想象你正站在日本任意一条街道上。

So now imagine you're standing on a street anywhere in Japan.

你转向身边的人，说：不好意思，请问这条街叫什么名字？

You turn to a person next to you and say, excuse me, what is the name of this street?

他们回答：哦，这是17街区，这是16街区。

And they say, oh, well, that's Block 17, and this is Block 16.

你又说：好吧，但这条街到底叫什么名字？

And you say, okay, but what is the name of this street?

他们回答：街道是没有名字的。

And they say, well, streets don't have names.

街区才有名字。

Blocks have names.

你看看这里的谷歌地图。

Just look at Google Maps here.

这里有1415街区、16街区、17街区、18街区、19街区。

There's Block 1415, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen.

这些街区都有名称，而街道只是街区之间的无名空间。

All of these blocks have names, and the streets are just the unnamed spaces in between the blocks.

好吧。

And you say, okay.

那你怎么知道你的家庭住址呢？

Then how do you know your home address?

我说，这很简单。

I said, well, easy.

这是第8区。

This is District 8.

这是第17街区，1号房屋。

There's Block 17, House Number 1.

他们说，好吧。

They say, okay.

但我在 neighborhood 里散步时发现，门牌号并不是按顺序排列的。

But walking around the neighborhood, I noticed that the house numbers don't go in order.

他说，当然了，它们是按这个顺序排的。

He said, of course, they do.

它们是按照建造的先后顺序排列的。

They go in the order in which they were built.

一个街区上最早建成的房子就是1号。

The first house ever built on a block is House Number 1.

第二座建成的房子就是2号。

The second house ever built is House Number 2.

第三座就是3号。

Third is House Number 3.

这很简单。

It's easy.

这很明显。

It's obvious.

所以我很喜欢这一点：有时候，我们必须走到世界的另一端，才能意识到自己从未察觉的假设，并明白这些假设的反面也可能成立。

So I love that sometimes we need to go to the opposite side of the world to realize assumptions we didn't even know we had and realize that the opposite of them may also be true.

例如，在中国有一些医生认为，他们的职责是让你保持健康。

So for example, there are doctors in China who believe that it's their job to keep you healthy.

所以只要你健康，你就支付他们费用；而当你生病时，就不必支付，因为他们的工作没有做好。

So any month you are healthy, you pay them, and when you're sick, you don't have to pay them because they failed at their job.

他们只有在你健康时才能致富，而不是在你生病时。

They get rich when you're healthy, not sick.

在大多数音乐中，我们把‘一’视为强拍，即乐句的开始。

In in most music, we think of the one as the downbeat, the beginning of the musical phrase.

一、二、三、四。

One, two, three, four.

但在西非音乐中，‘一’被视为乐句的结尾，就像句号一样。

But in West African music, the one is thought of as the end of the phrase, like the period at the end of a sentence.

因此，你不仅能从乐句的处理方式中听到这一点，还能从他们数拍子的方式中听到：二、三、四、一。

So you can hear it not just in the phrasing, but the way they count off their music, two, three, four, one.

而且这张地图也是准确的。

And this map is also accurate.

有一种说法是，关于印度，你可以说出任何真实的事实，而它的反面也同样成立。

There's a saying that whatever true thing you can say about India, the opposite is also true.

所以，无论是在TED还是其他任何地方，我们永远不要忘记，你所拥有或听到的任何精彩想法，其反面也可能成立。

So let's never forget, whether at TED or anywhere else, that whatever brilliant ideas you have or hear, that the opposite may also be true.

好的。

Alright.

所以你明白了基本概念。

So you get the basic idea.

TED什么时候出现？

When does when does the Ted

出现？

turn up?

我对存在一个巨大的机械泰迪熊这个想法着迷。

I'm obsessed with this idea of there being a huge mechanical teddy bear.

他看起来像一个巨大的机械

He looks like a huge mechanical

泰迪熊，你觉得德里克·西弗斯看起来像是被覆盖着

teddy You think Derek Sievers looks like Covering a

控制的皮肤吗？

poverning skin?

我觉得

I think

可能有一个东西从他的大脑内部控制着他。

there might be one controlling him from within his brain.

好的。

Okay.

还有一个迷你版的。

There's a mini one.

它在控制他的行为之类的东西。

There's a controlling his actions and stuff.

这太棒了。

That's that's brilliant.

好的。

Okay.

所以意思是，这很奇怪，还是只是不一样？

So the idea is, like, is it weird or is it just different?

对吧？

Right?

所以我这里有一份清单，是一些东西，就像一个测试。

So I've got a list of things here, which are things It's like a test.

不。

No.

这不是测试。

It's not it's not a test.

这是多项选择。

It's a multiple choice.

你可以放松一下。

You can relax.

这根本就是个‘不’。

The it's it's it's just a no.

没有正确答案。

There's no right answer.

这是那种事情。

It's one of those things.

有没有

Is there

一个惊喜？

a surprise?

错误的答案是：我们走着瞧。

The the wrong answer would be well, we'll see.

我们看看你怎么说。

We'll see what you say.

所以真的有惊喜？

And So there is a surprise?

我是在回应他刚才说的话。

I'm answering what he just said.

哦，抱歉。

Oh, sorry.

继续。

Keep up.

对。

Right.

所以让我们一起来看看我列的这个清单，以一种相对正常的方式，讨论一下你认为这些事情是奇怪的还是只是不同。

So let's just go through this list that I've come up with and so in a vaguely normal way, try and discuss whether you think these things are weird or or just different.

好的。

Okay.

明白了吗？

Okay?

那么，你认为这些事情中哪些是正常的，哪些是奇怪的？

And so but where which of these things do you consider to be normal or strange?

你为什么认为它们是正常的或奇怪的？

Why do you consider consider them to be normal or strange?

在哪些国家人们会做这些事，他们为什么这么做？

In which countries do they do these things, and why do they do them?

明白吗？

Alright?

你能重复一下问题吗？

Could you repeat the question?

不行。

No.

因为你刚才问了好几个问题。

Because you you know several questions.

是的。

Yeah.

那是几个不同的问题，都可以在网页上找到。

It was a few different questions, which could all be found on the web page

如果你对哦，我们需要一个蜂鸣器吗？感到困惑的话

if you're confused on the Oh, do we need a buzzer?

你不需要蜂鸣器。

You don't need a buzzer.

不需要。

No.

不需要。

No.

你只需要试着让这个东西运行起来就行了。

All you need to do is sort of just try and make this work.

明白吗？

Okay?

好的。

Alright.

说实话，这就像是有两个十几岁的男生跟我待在同一个房间里。

It's like honestly, this is like having two kind of teen teenage schoolboys in in in the room with me here.

好的。

Okay.

所以

So

先生，先生，我需要

Sir, sir, I need to have

气氛。

the mood.

闭嘴。

Shut up.

闭嘴，照我说的做。

Shut up and do as you're told.

首先，见面时要亲吻或拥抱对方。

So first thing is kissing or hugging someone when you meet them.

比如，见面时亲吻对方的脸颊或拥抱对方。

So, for example, kissing someone on the cheek or hugging someone when you meet them.

这很难判断

Do It's hard to get a

他们有多吸引人。

sense on how attractive they are.

你觉得真的是这样吗？

Do you think that's really?

是的。

Yeah.

这取决于你对他们的了解程度。

It depends on how well you know them.

或者不是。

Or no.

不一定是你对他们的了解有多深，而是你们之间的关系类型

Not necessarily how well you know them, what kind of relationship you

是什么。

have with them.

好的。

Okay.

所以，例如，我不会因为见到你就一定拥抱你，是的。

So, for example, I wouldn't necessarily hug you Yeah.

当我见到你的时候。

When I meet you.

这并不是因为你不够有吸引力，但我会在见到我的朋友戴夫时拥抱他。

It's not because you're not attractive, but then I would hug my friend Dave when I meet him.

好的。

Okay.

这并不是说，我比你更喜欢你之类的。

It's not Well, if like you any more than you.

我们只是会拥抱，我想你见到对方的频率可能比你见到我的频率低。

We just have a hug I think that you see each other maybe less than you see than me.

不是吗？

No?

不。

No.

不。

No.

不对。

Not true.

只是你和我之间的拥抱关系比你和我之间的要多一些。

It's just that you have more of a kind of hug type relationship than you do with me.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

我感觉有点失望。

I feel slightly disappointed.

想要一个拥抱吗？

Do want a hug?

我每次见到你的时候都得不到一个拥抱。

I don't get the hug when I meet when I meet you.

我不能抱你，因为你太有吸引力了。

I can't hug you because you're so attractive.

好吧。

Okay.

因为如果你抱了，你会兴奋起来的。

Because you you would get excited if you did.

没错。

Exactly.

但一般来说，在英国，你觉得见面时拥抱别人正常吗？

But generally in England, do you think that it's kind of normal to to hug someone when you meet them?

嗯，这还得看我喝了多少酒。

Well, that's Depends how drunk I am as well.

看你喝了多少酒。

Depends how drunk you are.

是的。

Yeah.

这很有趣。

That's interesting.

因为你必须喝酒才能放松到足以拥抱别人。

Because you have to be you have to use alcohol to get relaxed enough to be able to hug

朋友。

friend.

但通常就是这样发生的。

Too, but it just generally happens that way.

好的。

Okay.

所以当你喝了几杯酒后，你往往会更友好，也更愿意进行身体接触。

So you tend to be more friendly and more maybe sort of you you more more comfortable with physical contact when you're when you've had a few drinks.

我认为这对英国人来说大概是真实的。

I think that's probably true about English people.

是的。

Yeah.

我们通常比较拘谨。

We're quite uptight, generally.

是的。

Yeah.

我不算拘谨，但确实如此。

We're I'm not uptight, but yeah.

我们在喝酒前有点拘束。

We're a bit reserved before we have a drink.

然后我们就放开了。

And then we go over

到极致。

the top.

而当我们喝酒后，就会变得，嗯，有点太过

And then when we have a drink, we get, yeah, a bit too

我能说一句吗？其实我觉得如果我们能更经常地拥抱彼此，会很好。

Can I just say, actually, I think it would be nice if we hugged each other more often?

是的。

Yeah.

不只是你和我，而是普遍来说。

Not just you and me, but in general.

当然，不一定是在醉酒的时候。

Well, not necessarily when drunk.

我们见面时应该得意地拥抱。

We should gloat as we greet each other.

我喜欢我

I like I

喜欢抱女孩。

like hugging girls.

去拥抱。

To hug.

我们等着看你怎么做。

We'll see you do.

那当然。

That's for sure.

任何借口

Any excuse

都只是为了喜欢拥抱那些有点臭的男人。

to quite like hugging sort of smelly men that much.

我喜欢，我反正就这么做了。

I love I do it anyway.

这是其中一部分。

It's part of it.

这是工作的一部分。

It's part of the job.

我觉得这其实挺正常的，我的意思是，如果你和某人非常亲密，很久没见了，见面时可能会给他们一个拥抱。

I think it's it's it's pretty normal to I mean, it's if you're very close friends with someone, if you haven't seen them for a while, you might give them a a hug when you meet them.

当你见到一位女性朋友时，亲吻她的脸颊是很正常的。

When you meet a female friend, it's really normal to give them a kiss on the cheek.

这是

It's

不太适合拥抱她们。

not really appropriate to hug them.

你说谁？

Do you who?

一位女性朋友。

A female friend.

不。

No.

除非她们主动，否则我不会，除非是那种情况。

I don't unless they unless they instigate the Unless it's like

我觉得这是，是的。

I think it's Yeah.

我觉得亲女性朋友的脸颊两次是正常的。

I think it's normal to kiss a female friend on the cheek maybe twice.

不是在同一边脸颊亲两次。

Both not twice on the same cheek.

不。

No.

但两边各一次。

But one on both.

每边一次。

One on each.

继续。

Keep going.

每边脸颊亲一下。

One on each cheek.

我们来看看通常会发生什么。

Let's see what happens normally.

你就直接上吧。

You just go for it.

最坏的情况也不过如此。

It's the worst that can happen.

你其实应该试着和每一位女性朋友告别。

You actually try to you just get off each and every female friend.

试着和每一位女性朋友告别。

Just try to get off with each female friend.

那就是

That's

这不对。

That's not true.

有些是对的。

Some true.

作为听众，你听这段话时的任务可能是判断他们说的哪些是真实的，哪些只是他们临时编造的胡言乱语。

As a listener, maybe your task while listening to this is to try and decide which things are genuinely true that they're saying and which things are just just complete nonsense they're making up on the spot.

你一点线索都没有

You a clue

吉姆刚才说的其实是真的。

what Jim just said was actually true.

这完全不是真的。

It's not true at all.

部分是真的。

It's partially true.

不是的。

It's not.

当他遇到那些技能的时候。

When he he meets skills there.

所以那个部分真相是，过去你确实有过在不合适的场合试图亲吻女孩的行为。

That's why The the the partial truth there is that in the past, you have been known to try and kiss girls when the situation hasn't been appropriate.

这才是真相。

That's the truth.

你只要做了一次，就再也不会允许自己获得那种刺激了。

You do you do it once once, and you just never allow to get a rush.

一辈子都是这样。

For life.

他们是那种

They're they're which

说到底，我确实做过。

do we Ultimately, I've done it.

我只是胡乱说了一通。

I've just sluttered it

当着我所有朋友的面。

in front of all of my friends.

我担心我的听众根本没在听这个。

I'm I'm scared that my listeners aren't just following this.

好的。

Okay.

我们必须努力保持清晰。

We have to try and keep it clear.

明白吗？

Alright?

我们正在关注。

We're having an eye.

抱歉。

Sorry.

抱歉。

Sorry.

是的。

Yeah.

我们是耳朵。

We're ears.

别玩得太开心了。

Stop having fun.

好吗？

Okay?

而且试着画

And and try Just draw

在这一整段艰难的事情下面画一条线。

a line under the whole slogging thing.

你说得对。

You're right.

我认为在一些国家

I think in some countries

我们只是在玩得开心。

We're just having fun.

抱歉。

Sorry.

你对搭讪有什么看法？

What what do you believe about hooking?

它是，嗯，

Is it Well,

我只想说，在某些地方，这有点太随意了，等一下。

it's all I'm saying is that in some places It's a bit free for a Wait a minute.

等一下。

Wait a minute.

比如在意大利，朋友见面时身体接触非常多。

In in, like, Italy, for example, they they there's a lot of physical contact when you meet your friend.

当你见到女性朋友时，经常会亲吻对方的脸颊。

When you meet your female friend, like, you kiss on the cheeks a lot.

而在日本这样的地方，你绝对不会在见面时拥抱朋友或亲吻他们的脸颊。

And whereas in a place like Japan, you definitely wouldn't hug your friend or kiss them on the cheek when you meet them.

不会。

No.

不会。

No.

绝对不。

Absolutely not.

你会怎么做？

What would you do?

你只会说声嗨，这样更合适。

You would just say hi, it's much more

就尴尬地站在那里。

Just stand there awkward.

你会站在那里，或许有一点眼神交流。

You you'd stand there and and maybe a little bit of eye contact.

你就能感受到。

You just get the sense.

两个朋友正要

The the two friends are going

一点点。

a little bit.

也许稍微鞠个躬之类的，但你能明显感觉到朋友们重逢时非常开心。

Maybe a little bit of bowing or something, but you just get that sense that the friends are are really happy to meet each other.

他们不需要给对方一个大大的拥抱。

You don't they don't have to give each other a big hug.

他们不会太过肢体接触，但你能明显感觉到他们真的很高兴——这是个非常有趣的例子，因为我想要说明的是，当一个日本人遇到一个英国人时，比如你上去拥抱他们，他们可能会感到非常不自在。

They don't get really physical, but they just get the sense that you know when they're very glad to Very interesting example because So one of the what the point the points I'm making is that a Japanese person, when they meet an English person, for example, if you go to hug them, they might feel really uncomfortable.

谁对谁错？

Who's right and who's wrong?

哪一个才奇怪？

Which one is weird?

这取决于你是在英国还是在日本。

Which one is whether you're in The UK or Japan

是的。

Yeah.

或者在某个中间地带，比如说，我不知道。

Or somewhere in Bet I don't if you're in somewhere in between, so say, I don't know.

西伯利亚。

Siberia.

西伯利亚，

Siberia,

我，什么

I What

你去西伯利亚做什么？

would you be doing in Siberia?

这只是

It's just

在英国和日本之间的地方。

somewhere between England and Japan.

并不是。

It's not.

是英语的。

It's English.

它比看起来更靠近日本。

It's closer to Japan than it is.

哦，好吧。

Oh, okay.

我会说像是印度或者阿联酋这样的地方，有可能。

I would say somewhere like India or maybe The United Arab Emirates, possibly.

一个介于英国和日本之间的中立地带。

Just a neutral space between England and Japan.

我们稍微跑题了。

We we are digressing slightly.

是的。

Yeah.

我们完全跑题了。

We are completely.

让我继续下一个话题。

Let me move on to the next topic.

我这里有好多点要讲。

I've got so many points here.

我们根本不可能讲完所有这些。

We're never gonna get through all of them.

这一点我想知道你怎么看。

This one is, I wonder what you you have to say about this.

浴室里有两个水龙头。

Having two separate taps in the bathroom.

为澄清一下，在英国，我们通常会有热水龙头和冷水龙头。

So just to clarify that, in England, we often will have a hot tap and a cold tap.

你可能没有，因为你的厨房和浴室比较新，但热水和冷水是分开的，而在例如大多数欧洲国家，通常只有一个混合水龙头。

You probably don't because your kitchen's your bathroom's quite new, but hot tap and a cold tap separately, whereas in, for example, most countries in Europe, let's say, would have one single mixer tap.

我不明白为什么

I can't see why

这会是个大问题。

it's such a big deal.

是的

Yeah.

我知道。

I know.

我不觉得这有什么大不了的。

I don't think it's a big deal.

我从来都没注意到有什么区别。

I've never even noticed a difference.

是的

Yeah.

我不确定这个。

Not sure about this one.

我的意思是，看看你周围。

I mean, look around you.

是的

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

但你先听我说完。

But but just just bear with me.

我之所以这么说，是因为我觉得这根本不是什么大事。

The only reason I say that, I don't think that's that's a big deal.

但我听过很多人评论说，在英国他们不明白为什么我们会有两个独立的水龙头，我觉得这没什么问题。

But the number of times I've heard people make comments about how in Britain they don't understand why we have separate taps, I think it's fine.

我根本不介意，但一次又一次，来英国的人常常因为我们的两个独立水龙头感到困惑甚至沮丧。

I don't care at all, but it's time and time and time again, people who come to England often get confused and a bit frustrated by the fact we have two separate taps.

我觉得这并不是

I don't think it's a

一个重要的问题。

very important question.

我觉得

I don't think

这很重要，但似乎对很多人来说是个大事

it's a big deal, but it seems to be a big deal for a lot

很多人。

of people.

你怎么看？

What do you think?

我认为只要水龙头有明确的标识，哪个是热水，哪个是冷水，比如蓝色代表冷水，红色代表热水，是的。

I think provided that the taps still having very clear indication which is harm, which is cold, I e, with blue for cold and red for hot Yeah.

实际上这样更好，因为我用的是混合式水龙头。

It's actually better because I have the Mixer.

混合式水龙头意味着当你想快速从冷水切换到热水时，可能需要一些时间，基本上是这样。

The mixed taps, which means that when you wanna change quickly from cold to hot, it can take some time, basically.

所以，比如我想把水壶装满

So for instance, I wanna fill the kettle up

是的。

Yeah.

泡一杯茶，但我刚用热水把水槽装满准备洗碗。

To make a cup of tea, but I've just filled the the the sink up to be washing up with hot water.

从热水切换到冷水时，会浪费不少水。

You've gotta waste there's quite a lot of wastage there when you're actually switching from hot to cold.

所以是的。

So yeah.

我觉得这是其中一部分原因。

I think that's a part of it.

而且，水从水龙头流出的方式并不重要。

And, also, it doesn't matter how it comes out of the tap.

你应该把它混合在一起。

You're supposed to mix it

即使洗脸，也该在盆里混合，对吧？

in a bowl even if you're washing your face Are you?

用来把水槽装满。

To fill the sink up.

什么？

What?

因为这样能节约用水。

Because it saves water.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得这正是英国的特点。

I think this is the thing about The UK.

我们非常注重节约用水。

We we're very conscious of saving water.

是的。

Yeah.

但在其他国家，比如法国，他们会把水直接冲到街道的排水沟里，你知道吧？是的。

But in other countries, don't, like in France, for example, they run water down the through the, what do you call it, the gutters of the streets Yeah.

在巴黎经常这样，是的。

Often in Paris Yeah.

还有许多其他地方。

And and lots of other places.

你会发现他们只是让水从街道的排水沟流过。

You find that they just run water through the gutters of the streets.

所以否则

So otherwise

它是个浪费。

it's sting.

嗯，这是为了清洁街道，但对我们来说，如果在英格兰的任何城市这样做，他们会受到指责。

Well, it's to clean the streets, but for us, if they did that in any city here in England, they'd be outgrown.

你怎么能浪费这么多水呢？

Like, how can you waste all this water?

这表明，不知为何，我们这里更希望节约用水。

It just shows that here, for some reason, we want to conserve our water more.

我工作的地方

Where I work

我知道。

I know.

我们用雨水来冲厕所。

We use we use rainwater to flush toilets.

有一个系统收集雨水，然后

There's a system that collects rainwater and

用来冲厕所。

uses it

冲厕所。

to flush toilets.

是的。

Yeah.

我不知道我们是否因为某种地质原因，比其他国家更需要节约用水。

Don't know if there's some geological reason for why we need to conserve our water more than other countries.

我们不是有

Haven't we've got

目前实行的是软管禁令。

a it is a hose pipe ban at the moment.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得确实如此。

Think it's quite so.

历史上，我们需要非常

Historically, we we need to be quite

这个地区人口相当密集。

Quite high population in this population.

空间很小。

Small space.

是的。

Yeah.

我们必须非常小心。

We need to be quite careful.