2025年世界新闻测验🌍 与SEND7播客的斯蒂芬 [969]

那么，那个聊天机器人的名字是什么？

So what is the name of that chatbot?

那个让世界震惊的中国人工智能聊天机器人，或者创建它的公司，但它们的名字是一样的。

The Chinese AI chatbot, which surprised the world or the company which creates it, but it's the same name.

所以听众们，你们很可能已经知道答案了，但如果你仔细听了，我在前面那段冗长的开场白里已经提到过。

So listeners, of course, you may well already, know the answer, but, if you were listening carefully, I said it in my little rambling, monologue intro earlier.

是的。

Yeah.

这是一个以非常深入的方式搜索信息的聊天机器人。

So the it's this is a chatbot that searches in a very profound way for information.

它是一个大型语言模型。

It's a large large language model.

它是ChatGPT和其他大型语言生成式AI模型的竞争对手，包括谷歌的Gemini等。

It's a rival to ChatGPT and other large language generative AI models, including Google Gemini and stuff.

它是DeepSeek。

It's DeepSeek.

它的名字叫DeepSeek。

DeepSeek is the name of it.

完全正确。

That is absolutely right.

两题全对。

Two out of two.

哇。

Wow.

你表现得太棒了，卢克。

You're flying, Luke.

真不敢相信。

Can't believe it.

两题全对。

Two out of two.

到目前为止，起飞相当成功。

Takeoff has been reasonably successful so far.

让我们看看我能否保持这个轨迹，冲上测验大气层的高层。

Let's see if I can keep this trajectory going and blast up into the upper levels of the quiz mousphere.

测验测验大气层。

Quiz quizmosphere.

那就是测验的氛围。

That's the atmosphere of a quiz.

我不知道自己在说什么。

I don't know what I'm talking about there.

但我刚刚又编了一个叫‘新闻欢乐测验大气层’的东西。

But I just made up just made up a news merry quizmous as well.

嗯。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

对。

Right.

我们继续吧。

Let's move along.

第三题，这是最后一个基于美国的问题，以防有人在想，为什么他总停留在这里？

Number three, this is the last United States based question just in case anybody's thinking, why is he sticking there?

不。

No.

我们马上就要环游世界了。

We're going around the world in a minute.

但在整个一月，美国一个沿海城市发生了大规模野火，摧毁了大量住宅和商业建筑，超过18,000栋房屋和建筑物被毁，造成的损失估计达500亿美元。

But throughout January, there were massive wildfires which destroyed homes and businesses in a coastal city in The United States, destroying over 18,000 homes and buildings and causing an estimated $50,000,000,000 worth of damage.

这些火灾主要发生在哪个城市？

Which city were the fires mostly based around?

对。

Right.

加利福尼亚的听众们，你们一定在报纸上看到过这个新闻。

California City listeners, you must have seen this in the newspapers.

在报纸上。

In the newspapers.

他们还做报纸吗？

They don't do they are there still newspapers?

我不知道。

I don't know.

我买所有卖出去的报纸。

I I I buy all of the newspapers that are sold in yeah.

我是唯一还读纸质报纸的人，卢克。

I'm the only person that still reads physical newspapers, Luke.

是的。

Yes.

它们还在继续。

They're still going.

不。

No.

它们还在继续。

They're going.

是的。

Yeah.

它们让我维持生计。

They're keeping me afloat.

公平地说，当我回到英国时，我特意在超市里停下来翻看报纸，感受一下英国报纸的头条新闻。

To be fair, when I do go back to The UK, I make a point in the supermarket of stopping by the newspapers and just having a good look at them, just getting my feel of newspaper British newspaper headline.

如今它们存在的主要目的就是如此。

Mostly what they exist for these days.

就是为了像你这样的人走过报纸区，看看封面，然后离开。

It's just for people like you to walk past the newspaper section, look at the front covers, and then then walk off.

但，没错。

But, yeah.

其中总有一张凯特·米德尔顿的照片。

There's always a picture of Kate Middleton on there on one of them somewhere.

《每日快报》？

The Daily Express?

是的。

Yes.

通常是。

Usually.

嗯。

Yeah.

那不就是他们的主要卖点吗？

That that's that's their main stock in trade, isn't it?

就是刊登凯特的照片。

It's just publishing pictures of Kate.

Anyway，我们跑题了，问题是美国西海岸哪个沿海城市发生了野火？

Anyway, we're getting distracted from the question, which is Which wildfires in which coastal city on the West Coast Of The United States?

在加利福尼亚。

It's in California.

我表亲住在那里。

My cousin lives there.

那是洛杉矶。

It's Los Angeles.

完全正确。

That is absolutely right.

就是洛杉矶。

It is Los Angeles.

干得好，卢克。

Well done, Luke.

干得好。

Well done.

第三。

Third.

干得好。

Well done.

到目前为止，你赢得了三连胜，这让别人很难与你竞争。

You're making it quite difficult for people to to compete against you so far because you got three out of three.

但话说回来，也许有些听节目的人也取得了三连胜。

But hey, maybe some people who are listening have got three out of three as well.

但再谈谈那些洛杉矶火灾，这些是那些在火灾中失去家园的人。

But to say something else about those Los Angeles fires, these are some of the people who lost their homes in those fires.

梅尔·吉布森、杰夫·布里吉斯、比利·克里斯托、帕里斯·希尔顿、安东尼·霍普金斯、尤金·列维、亚当·布罗迪，还有很多非常有名的人物。

Mel Gibson, Jeff Bridges, Billy Crystal, Paris Hilton, Anthony Hopkins, Eugene Levy, Adam Brody, there are loads of really big names.

那些火灾让我深受触动的一点是，你只会想，如果这种事情能发生在他们身上，那也可能发生在任何人身上。

One thing that really struck me with those fires was that you just think if if it can happen to them, it can happen to anybody.

这真的让你重新审视自己的生活，思考你所拥有的所有物品和类似的东西。

It really makes you kind of put put your life into perspective of all of the, objects that you own and, and things like that.

而且在自然灾害的情况下，往往受到影响的是穷人或没有钱的社区。

And often in in the case of natural disasters, it's like kind of like the poor people or the communities with no money that are affected.

是的。

Yeah.

你可以看到，像这样的气候灾难会影响每一个人。

You can just see the, you know, climate catastrophes like this just affect everyone.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

我想也许只有那些极其富有的人，比如那0.01%的超级富豪，他们拥有好几处位于马里布的房产，即使被烧毁了也不会受到太大影响。

I guess maybe except, like, the very like, the super rich, like, the 00.1% who who are so rich that they can have, like, a couple of properties in Malibu burned to the ground, and they're not that badly affected by it.

但没错，这真是可怕的事情。

But, yes, it's it's terrifying stuff.

所以，我表亲住在洛杉矶，幸运的是，他们的房子没有被烧毁。

So, yeah, my cousin lives in Los Angeles, and luckily, their home didn't burn.

但他们不得不疏散，不得不逃离这座城市，当时部分城区着火，空气中到处都是浓烟。

But they had to evacuate, and they had to escape the city, you know, with parts of it on fire, lots of smoke everywhere in the air.

一定非常吓人。

Must be very frightening.

是的。

Yeah.

被烧毁的区域非常大。

The the area that was burned was just was huge.

我的意思是，那么多房屋，那么多地方，一切都消失了，这真是令人惊讶。

I mean, so so many homes where just and so many areas where everything was was gone, which was just so surprising about it.

而且看到，正如你所说，富人基本上流落街头，或者至少不得不找地方避难，这种景象非常罕见。

And seeing well, yeah, as you say, like rich people basically out on the streets or not on the streets, but, you know, having to take shelter somewhere, which is such a rare thing to to see.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

但是

But

但你表弟还好吗？

but he was alright, your your cousin?

幸运的是，他和家人在家中安然无恙。

Thankfully, him, his family were absolutely fine in his home.

是的。

Yes.

他们从火灾中幸免于难。

Was saved from the fire.

他们正好位于两场大火之间的一个区域。

They were just, like, between two of the fires in an area just between.

幸运的是，火势没有向那个方向蔓延，两场火都没烧到那里。

And just luckily, it didn't spread in that neither of them spread in, that direction.

但对他们和孩子们来说，一定非常可怕。

But it must have been terrifying for them and his kids.

你知道，他有年幼的孩子。

You know, he's got little kids.

是的。

Yeah.

所以，是啊。

So Yeah.

太可怕了。

Horrible.

是啊。

Yeah.

绝对。

Absolutely.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

对。

Right.

第四个问题。

Question number four.

我们现在直接跳到四月，但4月28日，为什么西班牙和葡萄牙的火车上的人必须疏散？

We're jumping all the way ahead to April now, but on the April 28, why did people have to be evacuated from trains in Spain and Portugal?

4月28日，为什么西班牙和葡萄牙的火车上的人必须疏散？

On the April 28, why did people have to be evacuated from trains in Spain and Portugal?

火车。

Trains.

只有火车吗？

Only trains?

嗯，我知道，我们仍然处于与气候相关的灾难范畴内，我想，除非我搞错了方向。

Well, so well, I know that they're again, we're still in the sort of area of climate related catastrophes here, I think, unless I'm barking up the wrong tree.

我知道西班牙发生过一些环境灾难。

I know that there were some environmental disasters in Spain.

如果我没猜错的话，这同时也包括了葡萄牙的部分地区。

I guess it's if I'm right, then this also included it also included Portugal, parts of it.

我想，如果我在想洪水的话，人们一定从很多地方被疏散了。

I I suppose people were must have been evacuated from a number of things if I'm thinking about floods.

洪水肯定也会让人们从家中撤离。

Surely, floods would make people evacuated from their homes as well.

但我很难想象，洪水怎么会让人从火车上撤离呢？如果洪水来得这么快，火车被困住甚至被水包围，那可能是多列火车。

But I can imagine how how could how could a flood make people evacuated from a train if the floodwaters came in so quickly, the train got stranded or even surrounded by water, trains, multiple plural trains.

我觉得是洪水。

I think it's the floods.

我觉得我该说是洪水或泛滥，但我也不太确定具体是怎么回事。

I think I'm gonna say floods or flooding, but I'm not quite sure how.

老实说，我对这个事件的细节并不完全了解，但我还是选洪水这个答案。

And I to be honest, I don't know all the ins and outs of the story, but I'm gonna go with the answer of flooding.

哦。

Oh.

不对。

It's not right.

不。

No.

我们错了一个。

We've got one wrong.

我们错了一个。

We've got one wrong.

一下子从100%跌到了75%。

Dropped from a 100% to 75% in one, in one swell foop.

突如其来。

Fell swoop.

突如其来。

Fell swoop.

就是这样。

That's the way.

swell foop。

Swell foop.

我喜欢这个。

I like that.

不，恐怕不是这样。

No, I'm afraid not.

并不是洪水。

It was not floods.

实际上，虽然你说得对，今年西班牙确实发生了许多火灾，但也不是这个原因。

It actually, it actually, although you're quite right that there were a lot of, fires as well in Spain this year, it wasn't that either, actually.

特别是4月28日，第二天还有一点余波，但在4月28日当天，西班牙和葡萄牙几乎完全断电。

There was on the April 28, in particular, hangover a little bit on the next day, but on the April 28, there was almost complete power cuts in Spain and Portugal just for that day.

影响了伊比利亚半岛几乎所有的地区。

And affected virtually everything on the whole Iberian Peninsula.

哇。

Wow.

因此，你不得不从地下地铁站、地铁列车和地面列车中疏散人员，这就是为什么我选择以列车为切入点，让情况变得稍微复杂一点。

And so you had, people who had to be evacuated from the, underground metro stations, metro trains, overground trains, which is why I stuck to the trains idea to kind of make it a little bit, a little bit more complicated.

当然，当时交通信号灯也无法工作。

And, there was, of course you didn't have traffic lights working.

所以街上必须有警察指挥交通，处理各种状况。

So you had to have, people in the streets, police in the streets, navigating all of the traffic and things like that.

为了准备这个问题，我试着查找停电的原因。

And do you know what, in preparation for this question, I was trying to find what the cause of the power cuts were.

但到目前为止，这似乎仍是一个未被完全理解的问题。

And it's it just still doesn't seem to be a fully understood thing.

似乎是在某个特定地点发生了故障，引发了一系列连锁反应：电力 surge 传到下一个地方，导致它断电，接着又引发下一个地方的 surge 和断电。

It seems to be a bit of a random event that there was something went wrong in one particular pace place, and it had a bit of a domino effect of, like a surge in power going to the next one, which knocked that one off, which surged the power to the next one and knocked that one off.

最终，这场停电蔓延到了整个西班牙和葡萄牙，甚至波及了法国东南部的一小部分地区。

And it eventually went spread to the whole of, Spain and Portugal and a little bit of the Southeast Of France as well.

因此，第四个问题的答案很简单：停电。

And so, the answer to question four is simply power cuts.

所以，如果你回答类似‘电力下降’、‘停电’、‘断电’或‘大范围停电’这样的说法，都能得分。

So, or if you said something like a drop in electricity, power cuts, electricity cut, something like that, blackouts, that will get you the point.

所以，你现在要赢过卢克，你得答对第四题。

So for you to be beating Luke right now, you need to have, have have got number four.

就是这样。

There you go.

停电之类的。

Power cuts or something like that.

卢克，你没听到吗？

Did did you miss that, Luke?

你不知道发生这件事了吗？

Did you did you not know that that happened?

我想这解释了4月28日伊比利亚半岛播客收听数据的下滑，斯蒂文，你在查看播客数据时不可能没注意到。

Well, I suppose this explains, the dip in podcast listening statistics for the April 28 in in the Iberian Peninsula, which you can't have you can't have missed, Steven, when looking at your podcast stats.

这一天的数据怎么突然归零了？

What happened here on just zero for this particular day?

我这是在开玩笑的。

I'm joking there, really.

我没注意到。

I didn't notice.

是的。

Yeah.

所以我不知道那件事。

So I wasn't aware of that.

但话又说回来，我确实听说那个地区发生了一次大规模停电。

But having said that, I I did hear I did hear about a massive power outage, in that area.

我只是没把那件事和那个特定的日期联系起来。

I just hadn't quite placed it on that date on that particular date.

你说他们到现在还不知道确切的原因。

You say that they they still don't know exactly what caused it.

我想那就只有一个可能的答案了。

I think there's only one possible answer then.

肯定是外星人干的。

It must be aliens.

嗯。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

当我们……时，这是唯一的合理结论。

That's the only logical conclusion when we

这是唯一合理的假设。

It's the only reasonable thing to assume.

嗯。

Yeah.

嗯。

Yeah.

我也这么想。

I think so.

确实很对。

It's it's Quite right.

嗯。

Yeah.

外星人试图阻止我们所有人，或者阻止我们认识到地球是平的这个真相。

Aliens trying to prevent us all under or or trying to stop us from realizing the truth that the earth is flat.

我认为这就是正在发生的事情，很明显。

I think that's what's going on there, obviously.

就是这样。

That's what it is.

说到外星人，第五个问题。

Speak speaking of aliens, question five.

外星人知道吗？

Do aliens know?

好啊，哦，该死。

Good oh oh, damn.

我还以为这是要自然过渡到关于外星人的问题了。

I thought that was a genuine transition to a question about aliens.

是的。

It is.

有一半是。

It half is.

问题五。

Question five.

四月，还发生了一次由杰夫·贝佐斯的私人航天公司蓝色起源运营的全女性太空飞行。

Also in April, an all female spaceflight took place using Jeff Bezos' private space company Blue Origin.

谁是这次飞行的流行歌手？

Which which pop star was on board?

四月，还发生了一次由杰夫·贝佐斯的——是叫贝佐斯吗？你怎么念的？

So also in April, an all female spaceflight took place using Jeff Bezos' is it Bezos or how do you say that?

杰夫·贝佐斯。

Jeff Bezos.

贝佐斯。

Bezos.

如果是所有格，那就是杰夫·贝佐斯的。

If it's if it's possessive, Jeff Bezos's.

对。

Yeah.

杰夫·贝佐斯的私人航天公司蓝色起源， onboard 的流行歌手是谁？

Jeff Bezos's private space company Blue Origin, which pop star was on board?

不。

No.

我知道这个。

I do know this.

这就对了。

There we go.

亲爱的。

And, dear.

我觉得，老实说，他们有点让自己出洋相了，因为她下来后，拍了一个Instagram视频之类的，说：‘我做这一切是为了世界。’

I think, to be honest, I feel like they made fools of themselves a little bit because she came down, and then she made this she she did this video on Instagram or something where she was talking about how, oh, I just this I did this for the world.

我这么做是为了全世界的人。

I did this for everyone in the world.

你的意思是，你乘坐了一次极其昂贵的太空飞行，消耗了成千上万吨的火箭燃料，将大量排放物倾入大气层，污染了整个地球，只是为了能升到太空边缘看看地球——甚至都不是真正的太空，我觉得。

You mean you took an incredibly expensive, flight into space that burned up, like, however many, kilos or tons of rocket fuel, pouring all of the emissions into the atmosphere, polluting it all for the world's population so that you could go up and see the Earth from the edge of space, not even full space, I think.

然后她告诉我们，她这么做是为了我们。

And then she told us that she did it for us.

这怎么可能是为了我们呢？

How is that for us?

我不明白。

I don't understand.

这让我很反感。

So it annoyed me.

这让我很反感，正因如此，我才记得是凯蒂·佩里。

It annoyed me, and and that's why I remember, that it was Katy Perry.

对。

Yeah.

就是凯蒂·佩里。

It was it was Katy Perry.

你精准地抓住了这个问题，也准确指出了她从太空回来后人们对她的主要批评。

And you have nailed this question, and you've also nailed the main criticism that people had of her when when she came down from that.

没错，完全正确。

Yeah, exactly right.

当时观众对她的反应似乎负面远多于正面，她不仅飞上太空，还在途中和返回时唱歌。

There was it seemed to be much more negative than positive, the the, audience reaction to her going up, into space, singing on the way and singing on the way back.

但那确实算太空，因为她飞越了那个特定的界限——我现在想不起名字了，这意味着他们确实进入了太空。

It did count as space though because she went above that certain, barrier, which I can't remember the name of now, which means that she they did go into space.

但没错，就是这样。

But yeah, that's right.

那是和杰夫·贝佐斯的公司，还有他妻子——我记不起她名字了——以及几位其他人一起的。

It was, with Jeff Bezos' company with his wife that I can't remember the name of, and a few a few others.

给你。

Here you go.

我本该知道这些事的。

I should know these things.

对吧？

Right?

但嘿，我确实不知道。

But, hey, I don't.

嗯。

Yeah.

干得好。

Well done.

干得好。

Well done.

那就是凯蒂·佩里。

It is Katy Perry.

就是这样。

There you go.

所以你答对了五个中的四个。

So you've got four out of five.

所以你是对的。

So you're right.

卢克，为什么？

Luke, why?

表现得很好。

Doing very well.

很好。

Very well.

那是80%吗？

Is that 80%?

是80%。

It is 80%.

是的。

Yeah.

五分之四。

Four out of five.

80%。

80%.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

让我们看看能否保持这个水平。

Let's see if we can keep that up.

第六个。

Number six.

所以，除了伊比利亚半岛电力崩溃之外，4月28日还发生了另一件事。

So another thing that happened on the April 28 apart from the Iberian Peninsula power collapse.

同样在4月28日，加拿大举行了大选。

Also on the April 28, Canada had a general election.

自由党领袖贾斯汀·特鲁多几个月前已经辞职，因为他的自由党在民调中远远落后于保守党。

Liberal leader, Justin Trudeau had resigned a couple of months before and because the Liberal party, his Liberal party was way below the Conservative party in the polls.

然而，不知怎的，自由党最终反弹并赢得了这次选举。

However, somehow the Liberals did come back and win that election.

接替贾斯汀·特鲁多并现任加拿大总理的人是谁？

What is the name of the leader that took over from Justin Trudeau and is today Canada's prime minister?

哦，这个我真的没法靠猜测来得出答案。

Oh, see, this is just one where I'm not gonna be able to speculate my way towards the answer.

这属于那种你知道那个人的名字，或者你不知道的情况。

This is a you know the person's name or you don't know the person's name.

坦白说，听众朋友们，我不知道那个人的名字。

And, frankly, listeners, I do not know the person's name.

加拿大总理叫什么名字？

What's the name of the Canadian prime minister?

现在还是总理。

Still the prime minister now.

对吧？

Right?

到现在还是。

Still today.

是啊。

Yeah.

好吧。

Okay.

所以这绝对是我不知道的，但我应该知道的事。

So this is definitely something I should know.

世界上西方主要国家之一的总理，你知道的，世界主要国家之一的总理。

The prime minister of one of the Western world's, you know, major nations, one of the major nations in the world.

我不知道，史蒂文。

I don't know, Steven.

我真的不知道。

I don't know.

我丢了一分。

I've I've lost a point.

该死。

Damn it.

你确实丢了一分。

You have you have lost a point.

我猜如果我告诉你他曾是英格兰银行的行长，你可能还是不知道，对吧？

And I suppose if I tell you that he was formerly the, governor of the Bank of England, that's probably not gonna help, is it?

英格兰银行的行长？

Governor of bank of the Bank of England?

是的。

Yes.

还有加拿大，不过是在不同时间。

And Canada as well, but, yeah, at separate times.

是的。

Yeah.

不。

No.

这对我没有帮助。

That's not helping me.

这不会有帮助。

It's not gonna help.

这不会有帮助。

It's not gonna help.

好吧。

Okay.

他叫马克·卡尼，加拿大总理。

His name is Mark Carney, prime minister of Canada.

马克·卡尼。

Mark Carney.

马克·卡尼。

Mark Carney.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

关于这件事最令人惊讶的地方在于它的发生方式。

The the thing that was so surprising about about this was the way that it happened.

贾斯汀·特鲁多的支持率出现了明显下滑。

There was this real dip in support for Justin Trudeau.

贾斯汀·特鲁多担任加拿大总理大约十年左右。

Justin Trudeau was Prime Minister of Canada for about ten years or something.

他在去年年底和今年年初变得非常不受欢迎。

And he became really unpopular at the end of last year and the beginning of this year.

因此他退位了，马克·卡尼接替他成为自由党的领导人。

And so he stepped aside and Mark Carney came in and took his place as the leader of the Liberal Party.

但保守党在民调中遥遥领先。

But the Conservative Party was so far ahead in the polls.

然后在二月到四月这短短两个月内，他们彻底失去了支持。

And then within the space of two months of between say February and April, they just lost it completely.

自由党卷土重来。

And the Liberals came back.

情况大概是，原本几乎有一半的人打算投票给他们，结果支持率跌到了20%、30%左右。

It was something like, you know, they went from almost half of the people wanting to vote for them down to 20% or some or 30% or something like that.

而自由党却逆势而上，最终赢得了选举。

And the Liberals did the opposite and actually ended up winning.

这背后有好几个可能的原因，但其中一个主要因素，你先说吧。

And there's a few different factors that this could be attributed to, but one of the main ones go ahead.

我本来想说，如果你允许的话，我想推测一下这些因素。

I was gonna say, I'm just if you can let me speculate on the factors.

请说。

Please do.

嗯。

Yeah.

你说保守党之前领先很多，但到了二月到三月再到四月，他们的民调突然大幅下滑。

You're saying that conservatives were were way ahead, and then February into March into April comes along, and suddenly they there's their their their polling dips dramatically.

没错。

Exactly.

是因为保守党在天冷的时候表现特别好吗？

Is is it that the conservatives do very well when there's when it's cold?

而当天气变暖、雪融化时，大家就开始想，你知道吗？

And when the when the weather warms up and the snow melts, everyone's like, you know what?

我感觉舒服多了。

I'm I'm a bit more comfortable.

我觉得我该投自由党了。

I I think I'm gonna vote liberal.

这是原因吗？

Is that the reason?

加拿大降雪量和保守党支持率之间有相关性吗？

Is there a correlation between snowfall and support for the conservative party in Canada?

基于我有限的知识，这是我能想到的唯一原因，但你马上就要告诉我们其他可能的因素了。

That's the only thing I can think of based on my basic knowledge, but you're about you're gonna tell us what the other factors could be.

我正等着你这么说呢。

Expecting you to say that.

我得说，我本来以为你要提到那几个真正相关的观点之一，但不，这个并不在其中。

I've gotta say, I I thought you were about to say, one of the couple of ideas that that that genuinely, are, but, no, that that is not one of them.

不过，也许你该做个政治分析师，开始把气候和政治投票联系起来。

Although, maybe you should become a political analyst and start, right, you know, mixing the, the the climate and the and the politics political voting in there.

气候正在驱动一切，史蒂文。

Climate's climate's driving everything, Steven.

确实如此。

It is.

某种程度上是的。

It is in a way.

也许没那么直接，但是

Maybe not quite as directly as that, but

嗯。

Yeah.

不。

No.

我刚才说的，你提到的更像是天气而不是气候。

I've I've been what you were talking about was slightly more weather rather than climate.

如果只是 day to day，比如今天稍微暖和一点，我可能还是会投自由党。

If it's just a day to day, you know, or a bit bit warmer today, maybe I can vote liberal anyway.

不。

No.

总之，那不是我要说的。

Anyway, that was not it.

不。

No.

我就觉得是这样。

I thought so.

当时有几件事。

There was there was a few there were a few things.

我的意思是，一方面是有新面孔，但部分原因可能是，大多数分析人士都同意，这与唐纳德·特朗普谈论加拿大成为第51个州、对加拿大加征关税之类言论有关。

I mean, one thing is just having a fresh face, but part of it was probably, you know, for most of analysts seem to agree that it was the way that Donald Trump was talking about Canada becoming the fifty first state and putting tariffs on Canada and things like that.

当时出现了强烈的反弹，加拿大民族主义情绪复兴，而这实际上有利于自由党——也就是不被唐纳德·特朗普支持的一方，因为特朗普希望保守党获胜。

And there was this backlash, this kind of revival of of Canadian nationalism, which happened, which actually benefited the party which was, well, liberal, you know, the the the side which was not supported, by, Donald Trump, who Donald Trump wanted the conservatives to to win.

而保守党领袖皮埃尔，发现很难与特朗普划清界限。

And the conservative, leader, Paulievre, he found it quite difficult to distance himself from Trump.

而且他还需要那些喜欢特朗普及其类似想法的人的选票。

And also he needed the votes of people who did like, like Trump and that kind of idea.

因此，有一种观点认为，特朗普正是通过激发这种民族主义情绪，间接帮助自由党赢得了那次选举。

So so there is this kind of way of seeing it where you can actually say, that, Trump actually helped the liberals to win, that election in that way by driving this this this nationalism, which actually helped the, Liberals.

事实上，我不太想过多宣传我的播客，因为我在本集开头已经提过了。

And in fact, I I I don't wanna plug my podcast too much because I already did that at the beginning of this episode.

不过，你之前是不是请过布里做过嘉宾？

But with, Brie you've had Brie on on here before, haven't you?

是的。

Yes.

我们谈过如何让孩子成为双语者。

We we talked about, raising kids to be bilingual.

哦，真好。

Oh, lovely.

布里·艾西。

Brie Aisy.

嗯。

Yeah.

布里·艾西。

Brie Aisy.

嗯。

Yeah.

她几周前上过《简单英语每日新闻》，我们当时聊过这个话题。

She was on, Simple English News Daily, a few weeks ago, and we spoke about this.

这是一份非常非常好的分析。

And, it's a really, really good analysis.

所以她能比我更好地描述当时发生的事情。

So she can describe it much better than than I just have of what happened.

Brie说，她一生中从未在加拿大见过这种民族主义的兴起，而这种兴起正是由这件事引发的。

And it was really interesting to see this rise in, in Canadian nationalism, Brie said she hadn't seen in Canada during her lifetime, and it was kind of caused by by this.

就是这样。

There you go.

我本该猜到的，因为显然，特朗普上台对全世界各国都产生了深远影响，尤其是对加拿大，毕竟我们是邻国，而且他们还说加拿大是第五十一个州，发表了各种极具攻击性的言论，甚至还谈到了格陵兰。

I should have guessed that because, obviously, Trump coming in had profound effects on everyone, you know, in terms of nations in the world, but certainly on Canada because, obviously, next door neighbors, but also that they said that Canada was the fifty first state and making all of these sort of very, what's the word for, aggressive statements, and also talking about Greenland.

你知道，他们谈论占领格陵兰，自然地，加拿大人看到这些后会想，我们以前觉得他像个小丑，但如今他权力大增。

You know, talking about, occupying Greenland and just so naturally, of course, the Canadians, they look at that and they think, well, obviously, we used to see him as some sort of clown, but he's a lot more empowered these days.

也许他其实是认真的。

Maybe he's actually serious

嗯。

Mhmm.

考虑到他所做的一些事情。

Considering some of the things that he's done.

我们必须认真对待这一点。

We need to take that quite seriously.

因此，自然地，这促使了对保守派的迅速反击，正如你所说，他们曾受到特朗普的支持。

So, naturally, that caused a rather rapid move against, the conservatives who, as you say, were kind of backed by Trump.

是的。

Yeah.

你可以想象，加拿大人会如何几乎惊慌失措地远离这一选项，转而选择更具有加拿大特色、更偏向加拿大的方向。

You can imagine how how the Canadians would run essentially run screaming from that option towards, you know, something a lot more, Canadian you know, Canada oriented.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

就这样了。

That's it.

总之，好吧。

Anyway, okay.

所以这是第六条。

So that was, number six.

所以你已经完成了六条中的四条。

So you've got four out of six.

所以我们只剩下66.66666了，我想。

So we're down to 66.66666, I think.

是吗？

Yeah?

是的。

Yes.

是的。

Yes.

没错。

That's right.

我刚刚高于及格线，目前还算安全，但我们还有14道题要回答。

I'm just hovering above the pass mark here, but I'm still safe at the moment, but we've got 14 questions yet to come.

没错。

That's right.

好的。

Okay.

一切皆有可能。

Everything to play for.

一切皆有可能。

Everything to play for.

第七题：根据联合国的数据，哪个亚洲城市超过了东京，成为世界上人口最多的城市？

Number seven, which Asian city overtook Tokyo to become the most populous city in the world according to the United Nations.

联合国最近调整了统计方式并进行了新的调查，宣布世界上人口最多的城市已经不再是东京。

So the United Nations did a new well, they slightly changed their way of counting and did a new survey, and they have declared that the most populous city in the world is not Tokyo anymore.

这是亚洲的另一个城市。

It's another city, which is in Asia.

是哪个城市？

Which city is that?

对。

Right.

让我再稍微绕开问题一点，让听众思考一下。

So let me again, let me just talk around the question a little bit while the listeners think.

是的，东京确实非常庞大。

So, yes, Tokyo, certainly massive.

我曾经住在那附近，也去过东京市中心的摩天大楼。

And I've been you know, I lived near there and have been up skyscrapers in the center of Tokyo.

当你站在东京市中心一座非常高大的建筑顶端俯瞰时，放眼望去，到处都是建筑和混凝土，直到地平线。

And you look out from the top of a very tall building in the center of Tokyo, and all you can see is sort of just built up area concrete, if you like, until the horizon in some directions.

你根本看不到绿色植被。

You know, you don't start to see greenery.

你根本看不到任何东西。

You just don't see any.

放眼望去，城市一直延伸到地平线，而你正站在一座非常高大的建筑顶端。

It's just city all the way to the horizon, and you're standing at the top of a very tall building.

这个大都市延展得令人难以置信。

It's quite unbelievable how the metropolis stretches out.

它包含了其他城市和城镇。

It incorporates other cities and towns.

这真的太不可思议了。

And just it's just unbelievable.

但显然，它已不再是世界上人口最多的城市了。

But no longer apparently the the most populous city in the world then.

但我想，我知道，因为我读过这方面的内容。

But I think well, I know because I read about this.

我做了一些功课。

I did a bit of homework.

我正在读那篇维基百科文章。

I was reading that Wikipedia article.

它是印度尼西亚的雅加达，印度尼西亚的首都。

It's Jakarta in Indonesia, the capital of Indonesia.

雅加达现在据联合国称是世界上人口最多的城市。

It is Jakarta, which is now apparently the most populous city in the world according to the UN.

是这样吧，对不对？

Is that that's right, isn't it?

没错。

That is right.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

干得好。

Well done.

干得好，卢克。

Well done, Luke.

那就是雅加达。

It is Jakarta.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

That's right.

印度尼西亚的首都。

The capital city of Indonesia.

是的。

Yeah.

根据联合国最新的数据，雅加达现在是世界上人口最多的城市。

Jakarta is now the most popular city in the world according to this new United Nations data.

事实上，根据这份数据，东京甚至已经不是第二了。

And in fact, Tokyo isn't even second anymore according to this.

现在第二是孟加拉国的首都达卡，第三是东京。

Second now is Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh, and third is Tokyo.

哦，哇。

Oh, wow.

但前三个城市都在亚洲。

But they go they're they're all in Asia, are the the top three.

是的。

Yeah.

就是这样。

That's it.

干得好。

Well done.

干得漂亮，卢克，作业完成得真不错。

Nice, nice homework doing there, Luke.

你答对了七个中的五个。

You've got five out of seven.

是的。

Yeah.

我表现得还不错。

I'm doing okay.

我表现得还不错。

I'm doing okay.

听众们，你们进展如何？

Listeners, how are you getting on?

你们在计分吗？

Are you keeping score?

如果你们在计分，肯定有人已经得了七分。

If you are, there'll be someone out there with seven.

某个聪明的人。

Some some clever person.

有位听众送了七，所以他得了七分，这位听众得了七分。

Some a a listener to send seven has got seven, And the listener's got seven.

你看，七就是送七。

You see seven is send seven.

所以我得了七分。

So I've got seven points.

我们喜欢数字七。

We love the number seven.

我们来看看你能不能拿到八分。

Let's see if you can get to eight, though.

嗯。

Yeah.

因为这不是送八的播客，对吧？

Because it's not send it's not the send eight podcast, is it?

不对。

No.

不是。

It's not.

不是。

It's not.

好的。

Okay.

5月8日，教皇利奥在教皇弗朗西斯去世后被选为新教皇。

On the May 8, Pope Leo was chosen as the new pope after the death of Pope Francis.

嗯。

Mhmm.

关于教皇利奥，以下哪一项不正确？

Which of these is not true about Pope Leo?

那么，以下哪一项不正确

So which of these is not true

关于听众，他要给一些有

about Listeners, he's gonna give some There's

四个选项。

four options.

四个选项。

Four options.

其中有一个是不正确的。

One of these is not true.

你需要选出哪个是不正确的。

You've got to choose what's not true.

他是第一位来自美国的教皇。

So he is the first pope from The United States.

他是第一位拥有秘鲁国籍的教皇。

He is the first pope to hold Peruvian nationality.

嗯。

Mhmm.

他是第一位出生于美洲的教皇，或者他是第一位以现代英语为母语的教皇。

He is the first pope born in The Americas, or he is the first pope with modern English as a first language.

其次，如果你能包含一种古老的英语版本。

Second, if you could include an old version of English.

我打算再把所有这些说一遍，因为这相当复杂，尤其是如果你面前没有笔和纸的话。

I'm gonna say that all of those again because it's quite complicated, yes, especially if you're not got a pen and paper in front of you.

所以我会再读一遍所有这些内容。

So I'm gonna read all of those again.

关于教皇利奥，以下哪一项是不正确的？

Which one of these is not true about Pope Leo?

我会用A、B、C、D的方式来表述，这样更清楚。

So I'll say it in the a b c d, make it easier.

A，他是第一位来自美国的教皇。

A, he is the first pope from The United States.

B，他是第一位拥有秘鲁国籍的教皇。

B, he is the first pope to hold Peruvian nationality.

C，他是第一位出生于美洲的教皇。

C, he is the first pope born in The Americas.

或者D，他是第一位以现代英语为母语的教皇。

Or d, he is the first pope with modern English as a first language.

其次，如果你包含古英语。

Second, if you include old English.

哦，好的。

Oh, okay.

因为曾经有一些古老的教皇使用的是古英语。

Because there have been some old popes who had old English A

一千年前。

thousand years ago.

真的吗？

Really?

好的。

Okay.

有可能。

Potentially.

有可能。

Potentially.

所以最后一个选项是第一位以现代英语为母语的教皇。

So that last option is the first pope with who speaks modern English as his first language.

是的。

Yes.

是的。

Yes.

好的。

Okay.

我以为你要说，我以为他会是第一位会飞的教皇。

I thought you're gonna add an I thought it was gonna be he he's the first pope who can fly.

他是第一位拥有超能力的教皇。

He's the first pope who who has been who's got superpowers.

那我们来看看。

I'd so let's see.

我们来看看。

Let's see.

他出生在美国，各位听众。

I he was born in in The United States, listeners.

他出生在美国。

He was born in the in The United States.

出生在美国。

Born in The USA.

他确实如此。

He was.

所以他出生在美国。

So he was born in The USA.

对吧？

Right?

我们都知道这一点。

We know this.

第一位来自美国的美国籍教皇。

First first American first pope from The US.

但他有秘鲁血统。

But he's got Peruvian roots.

我猜他的父母是秘鲁人，所以他可能拥有秘鲁护照和秘鲁国籍，同时也来自美国。

I guess his parents are Peruvian, so I guess he has a Peruvian passport, Peruvian nationality, as well as being, from The US.

而且他必须会说现代美式英语。

And he's gotta speak, you know, modern American English.

所以，你提到他是第一位出生在美洲的教皇，这确实是事实。

So it has to be the fact that he's you said first pope born in The Americas.

但当你说到‘美洲’时，这包括了美国。

When you say The Americas, though, that that includes The United States.

所以这是正确的。

So that is true.

那么怎么能，怎么能

So how can how how can

所以我们正在找那个不正确的说法。

So we're looking for the one which is not true.

没错。

Exactly.

所以如果他出生在美国，那么他也出生在美洲，因为美国就在美洲之内。

So so if he was born in The USA, then he then he is also born in The Americas because they're that's the same USA in The Americas.

我要不要再把它们全部读一遍，以便你澄清一下？

Shall read shall I read them all again just to so you can clarify this?

好了，开始。

Here we go.

它们都以‘他是第一个’开头。

They they all start with he is the first.

哦，第一个。

Oh, first.

对。

Right.

所以是三个。

So it's it's three

他是第一位出生于美国的教皇。

He is the first pope born in The United States.

B 是第一位拥有秘鲁国籍的教皇。

B is he is the first pope to hold Peruvian nationality.

C 是第一位出生于美洲的教皇。

C is he is the first pope born in The Americas.

D 是第一位以现代英语为母语的教皇。

And d is he is the first pope with modern English

对。

Right.

以英语为第一语言。

As first language.

我认为他是第一位来自美国的教皇，第一位拥有秘鲁国籍的教皇，但不是第一位来自美洲的教皇，因为显然我们之前有过其他教皇。

I think he's first pope from The US, first pope with the Peruvian nationality, but not first pope from The Americas because, of course, we had, we've had other popes.