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我是罗格。
It's Rog.
听我说。
Listen.
我相信你知道我非常喜欢New Balance的一切，从他们的运动员到他们的休闲服装，当然还有他们的足球鞋。
I'm sure you know I adore all things New Balance from their athletes to their lifestyle clothing and, of course, their football boots.
他们出色的团队刚刚推出了Furon v9，这款鞋是为球场上最快、最果断的球员打造的。
Their incredible team has just launched, the Furon v nine, The boot built for the game's fastest, most decisive players.
它轻便透气，贴合脚型，穿着感觉像袜子一样。
It's lightweight and breathable with a form fitting bootable feel.
这是一款为那些能瞬间拉开差距的球员设计的鞋。
This is a boot for players who create separation in an instant.
它的流线型设计。
It's streamlined fit.
轻量化的手感和精准的抓地力，都是为了让你每一步都发挥出最大作用。
Lightweight feel and precision traction are designed to make every movement count.
想成为速度快的足球运动员，这事儿急不来。
Becoming a fast footballer, it can't be rushed.
但你可以赶紧去newbalance.com/soccer，给自己或者你认识的人挑一双合适的球鞋。
But you can rush to newbalance.com/soccer to find the boot for you or someone you know.
你现在收听的是Men In Blazers媒体网络的Suboptimal Radio。
You're listening to the Men In Blazers media network, Suboptimal Radio.
这周末英超强势回归。
Premier League's back with a vengeance this weekend.
史上最火药味十足的宿敌对决。
The grudgiest grudge match of all time.
利物浦对阵曼城，这场 rivalry 曾经定义了一个冠军时代，现在更像是在草地上进行的法庭听证会。
Liverpool, Manchester City, a rivalry that once defined an era of championships, and more like an evidentiary court hearing on grass.
另外，在纯足球方面，阿森纳突然迎来文森特回归，他们希望主场对阵利兹联能反弹。
Also, in mere football, Arsenal suddenly, Vincent will return to action hoping to bounce back at home against Leeds.
而三场不胜的曼联，主场迎战在生活里也不胜的热刺。
And winless in three Manchester United, host winless in life, Tottenham Hotspur.
这里是《周末大预览》。
This is Big Weekend Preview.
我们来分析一下这个超长的、充满律师的国际比赛间歇期。
We'll break down the supersized lawyer filled international break.
和我一起的是罗里·史密斯先生。
I'm joined by misters Rory Smith.
哦，还有光彩照人的汉弗莱·克尔，两位先生。
Oh, and looking resplendent, Humphrey Ker, gents.
这个国际比赛间歇期比该死的世界杯还长。
This international break fell longer than the bloody World Cup.
我几乎都不记得国内足球长什么样了。
I barely remember what domestic football looks like.
球队都是谁啊？
Who are the teams?
什么……
What...
他们可以有任何国家的人吗？
They can have people from any country?
这太疯狂了。
This is mad.
等你们发现我们不在的时候发生了什么再说吧。
Wait till you find out what happened while we were away.
先从法庭德比开始，利物浦对曼城，周日东部时间上午11:30，NBC直播。
Beginning with the courtroom derby, Liverpool versus Manchester City, Sunday 11:30AM eastern on NBC proper.
我们说话的时候，距离教练们的第一轮新闻发布会只有几个小时了。
We're speaking just hours before the first salvo of managerial press conferences.
每个球员、每个教练，只要靠近麦克风，都会被问到曼城那114项指控的事。
Every player, every manager near a microphone will be grilled about the Manchester City 100 and fourteen charge ordeal.
两位，先问罗里，如果你在新闻发布厅，面对莫雷斯卡，在夏姆菲尔德这种创伤的情况下，你会问什么问题？
Gents, to start, Rory, if you're in the press room facing Moresca amidst this Shamfield trauma, what one question would you be asking?
我会像天空新闻那个执着的记者罗伯·哈里斯一样，他在一次发布会上直接问了安妮·索里亚诺。
I would channel the energy of Rob Harris, the dogged Sky News reporter who asked for Anne Soriano at a conference.
你们是不是个假俱乐部？
Are you a sham club?
我觉得那是我见过的最有种的问题了，居然有人敢这么问。
I think that's the that's the ballsiest question I've ever seen anybody ask anybody.
但罗格，你知道的，我其实是个胆小鬼。
But I famously, Rog, I'm a I'm a coward.
所以我觉得，周五他面对媒体的时候，最可能被问到的问题，应该是他有没有跟球员们聊过这件事。
So I think what the question that will will go to Maresco the most when he speaks to the the assembled media thron on Friday, I believe, is has he talked to the players about it?
我特别好奇这个。其实上周我去看了曼城女足对皇马的欧冠赛前发布会。
That's what I'm really fascinated by that, you know, I I went to City last week, actually, to to the press conference before their Women's Champions League game against Real Madrid.
加拿大后卫杰德·罗斯是曼城第一个不得不公开回应这些指控的人，说实话，我觉得这对她有点不太公平。
And Jade Rose, the Canadian defender, was the first representative of Manchester City who had to publicly address the charges, which I thought was a little bit a little bit mean on Jade Rose, if I'm honest.
她和女足主教练安德烈亚·埃德勒茨显然都统一了口径，就是说我们不需要讨论这件事。
And both she and Andrea Edelerts, the the women's team's manager, they clearly had a line which was, we haven't needed to talk about it.
我们……
We...
你知道，就是……
You know, it's...
我们专注于比赛。
We're focusing on the game.
就是……
It's...
我们对外界的噪音无能为力，只能控制自己能控制的事情。
We can't do anything about the noise, control the controllables.
我觉得马雷斯卡不可能没跟球员们讨论过这件事，毕竟国际比赛日结束后他们都会陆续归队训练。
I don't think it's feasible that Maresco won't have discussed it with the players when they all kind of drip back into training after the international break.
这是他们必须面对的事情，我想知道他会怎么说。
It's something they will have to address, and I would like to know what he says.
你知道，他只会说这对我们来说不是新闻。
You know, he's just gonna say it's not news to us.
我们都知道会发生这种事。
We all knew it was happening.
这就是我们加入的原因，所以一切照旧。
It's why we joined, so it's just business as usual.
哼，你是我们当中最像律师的。
Humph, you're the most barrister like amongst us.
你会怎么提问？
What would your line of questioning be?
我同意罗里的看法。
I agree with Rory.
有趣的是，比如……
The the fascinating thing is, like, what...
他们让这件事在对话中渗透了多少？
How much have they allowed this to bleed into their conversations?
你知道，他们已经……
You know, they've...
大概已经进行了两三次训练了吧。
Would have had, what, probably two or three training sessions so far.
我想问的是，你们觉得自己下赛季会在哪里踢球？
I think my question would be, where where do any of you think you're gonna be playing next season?
你觉得呢？
How would you thought?
看看希尔·迪金森，厄林。
See the Hill Dickinson, Erling.
你知道吗，这很有意思，因为托马斯·图赫尔已经承认，这次集训影响了他手下的曼城球员。
You know, it is fascinating because Thomas Tuchel has already admitted that the camp, it affected his Manchester City players.
这是集训营里大家都在谈论的话题。
It was the talk of the camp.
我感觉马雷斯卡的说法会是，这不会影响到我们。
I've got a feeling the Marescas line will be more like this doesn't bother us.
你知道，俱乐部已经说了，他们会提出上诉。
You know, the club have said, that they're appealing.
我们相信俱乐部。
We trust the club.
这就是……
This is...
我觉得他们就会这么说。
That's the line I think they will put out.
但英国媒体那边，我的天哪。
But the English press, oh my lord.
这简直是场噩梦，前所未有的黑暗。
This is a fever dream, the unprecedented darkness.
他们可劲儿地报道。
They are feasting.
足球圈里每个人都被拉去问看法。
Everyone in football is getting asked for comment.
老天保佑。
God bless.
我觉得他们连托尼·普利斯都挖出来征求意见了。
I think they've exhumed Tony Poolis to get his opinion.
杰西·马什把他们彻底打趴下了。
Jesse Marsh has leveled them.
杰西·马什确实火力全开。
Jesse Marsh went really strong.
他真是拼了。
He went hard.
他有两把刷子。
He's got two gears.
而且我……
And I...
他……
He's...
下周末我要和他一起在多伦多登台亮相。
I'm gonna appear with him in Toronto on stage next weekend.
他确实……
He does...
他确实很喜欢按下核按钮。
He he he does love to push the nuclear button.
昨天，伟大的哲学家国王卡尔·沃克最后发言，他说得很精彩，他说，小伙子们，我们度过了很多很多美好的岁月，庆祝了很多奖杯。
The mighty philosopher king, Carl Walker, latest to speak yesterday, said quite eloquently, the lads, we spent many and many a great year celebrating many trophies.
不管发生什么，他们都不能夺走这些，因为我们经历过那些夜晚。
Whatever happens, they can't take that away from us because we've experienced them nights.
我不确定事情是不是这样，凯尔。
I'm not sure it works like that, Kyle.
罗，前两周事情爆发的时候，你和我录了很多内容。
Raw, you and I have taped a ton of content when it broke the week before last.
最近那期特别节目链接在下面，没看过的人可以看看。
That most recent special's linked below for those who haven't seen it.
我们真的详细分析了。
We really break it down in detail.
为这次节目做准备，我有了一些新的想法。
I have had some new thoughts preparing for this show.
最让我对这个黑暗话题感到困惑的一点是，曼城队虽然上诉了有罪判决，这是他们的权利，但整个过程中他们几乎没有表现出任何悔意。
One of the things that baffles me most about this dark, dark subject is that Manchester City, they've appealed the guilty judgment which is their right, but they've shown so little remorse through this entire process.
事实上，恰恰相反。
In fact, quite the opposite.
他们表现得好像自己才是受害者。
They played it as if they're the injured party.
判决书的附录还没公布，那里面会揭露每一封邮件、每一条消息，你知道的，事实真相，还有我认为非常具有毁灭性的细节。
The appendices of the judgment are yet to drop which will reveal every email, every message, know, the facts in the reality and I think quite damning minute detail.
我们一方面看到，一个俱乐部作为一个机构，正准备在球场上踢球，而它存在的真相正在被撕碎。
We've got on one level a club as an institution about to try and, you know, kick a football around the field while it's very existential truth is being eviscerated.
你说的那种缺乏悔意，感觉就是当下的风气，不是吗？
That lack of remorse as you say feels that is the spirit du jour, is it not?
就像，这就是过去十年教给我们的，比如，我们所有公共生活中的领袖，全世界都一样，就像，你不要……
Like, this is this is what the lessons of the last ten years have taught us, like, all our leaders in public life across the across the world, everywhere is like, you don't...
永不道歉，永不解释。
Never apologize, never explain.
而且，你质疑我的不良行为，恰恰说明你道德上有问题，你对我真的很不好。
And actually, you questioning me on my bad behavior is a sign of your moral shortcomings and you're treating me really badly.
我试着用这套说辞对付我老婆，当她抱怨我买了太多战锤模型的时候，我就说，嘿。
I've tried to run this line with my wife when she complains about how many Warhammer miniatures I buy and I say, hey.
嘿。
Hey.
我这是在支持一个伟大的英国传统品牌呢。
I'm supporting a great British institution here.
这是……
This is...
115项战锤指控。
The 115 Warhammer charges.
是的。
Yes.
一套完整的克里格死亡军团战斗套装要170英镑。
It is a £170 for a full Death Corps of Krieg battle set.
而且说实话，这要怪你自己，要我说的话。
And actually, that's that's on you, if anything, I say.
而且……
And...
不。
No.
但我的意思是……
But I mean...
听起来你被压迫了，Hump。
It sounds like you're being oppressed, Hump.
听起来你被压迫了。
It sounds like you're being oppressed.
这招对你管用吗？
How's that working for you?
这招对你管用吗？
How's that working for you?
不太好。
Not great.
不太好。
Not great.
不太好。
Not great.
所以我才又一次在BBC这个灰色小盒子里录播客，而不是在我温馨的家里，和家人在一起。
That's why I'm once again podcasting from this gray box of the BBC rather than from the bosom of my my loving family home.
你是不是……
Did you did you...
你要介绍的那个确凿证据，你打算说说吗？
Do you talk about conclusive evidence that you're about to introduce?
嗯，她说了，是的。
Well, she she said, yeah.
她说我确实有114项罪名，都是因为花太多钱买玩具了。
I've I've got you banged to rights on a 114 charges of spending too much money on toys.
然后我就说……
And I go...
我就说，好吧，我有十二周的上诉期。
And I just say, well, I've got a twelve week appeal period.
所以在这期间，我打算发表一系列声明，声称我没做错任何事，尽管看起来我可能确实做错了。
So in the meantime, I'm gonna roll out a series of statements claiming that I've done nothing wrong even though it seems like I probably have.
稍微严肃一点说，你说有一家足球俱乐部即将回归他们最擅长的事情，那就是踢足球。
In a more slightly serious note of, you you say that there is a football club who is about to return to what it is that they do, which is playing football.
而且，你知道，我经常……
And, you know, as I so often...
你知道，你确实会为那些球迷感到难过，比如那些在缅因路球场看台上的人，他们见证了曼城在英乙时的岁月，见证了那段辉煌的成长和激动人心的时期，他们的所有梦想一下子都实现了。
You know, you you do feel for those fans like the, you know, those people that were in the stands at Main Road that were going when, you know, when when Manchester City were in league two who who saw this glorious period of of growth and and excitement and all their dreams come true at once.
而现在，这一切都被蒙上了一层非常不幸的阴影。
And now it's casts a very unfortunate pallor on the whole thing.
史上最悲伤的波兹南舞，慢动作版。
The saddest posnan of all time in slow motion.
一个悲伤的波兹南。
A mournful posnan.
一个悲伤的波兹南。
A mournful posnan.
顺便说一句，这听起来像是一个很棒的乐队，一个自赏摇滚乐队。
I mean, That, by the way, sounds like an amazing band, shoe gazing band.
简直不可思议，几乎是因果报应般的正义，英超联赛的编剧们，或者检察官们，我们不知道，确保曼城回归赛场的第一场比赛是客场对阵世界足坛最不评判的场地，客场去安菲尔德。
In an incredible, karmic, almost stroke of justice, Premier League script writers, and or prosecutors, we don't know, have ensured Manchester City return to action with an away game at the least judgmental venue in world football, an away trip to Anfield.
我不是编的，去面对利物浦足球俱乐部。
I'm not making this up to face Liverpool Football Club.
这可能是体育意义上最受委屈的机构之一。
One of the institutions probably most aggrieved in a sporting sense.
佩普·瓜迪奥拉和尤尔根·克洛普之间的那种竞争，我们曾经觉得它定义了足球。
That rivalry between Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp, we once felt it defined football.
我觉得它已经被一种黑暗所超越和覆盖，你知道，那种吞噬人的黑暗。
I think it's been transcended by and coated in just a sense of, you know, the darkness that consumes men.
我预计曼城队从大巴转弯的那一刻起就会听到这些声音。
I expect the City squad will be hearing it from the moment their bus turns down.
安菲尔德路……
Anfield Road to be...
会有一两个烟火被放出来。
There'll be a flare or two unleashed.
我跟你说。
Let me tell you.
加里·内维尔说，这将是莫雷斯科和他的团队残酷的一天。
Gary Neville said it will quote be a brutal day for Moresco and company.
各位，你们觉得这会在球场和赛场上如何体现？
Gents, how do you think this is gonna show up in the stadium and on the pitch?
安菲尔德将不再像一个足球场，而更像一个法庭，陪审团一边倒，前所未有。
Anfield's gonna feel less like a football stadium, more like a courtroom with the most one-sided jury ever wrote.
安菲尔德不是……
Anfield's not
其实很多时候，安菲尔德并没有像它的名声那样那么吵。
as noisy as as its reputation kind of suggests quite a lot of the time.
至少过去一年左右是这样。
It has been for the last year or so.
大多数时候它相对安静，一部分是因为利物浦表现不佳，一部分是因为进入体育场的后勤问题之类的，他们一直在应对这些。
It's been relatively subdued more often than not, partly because Liverpool aren't very good, partly because of, like, logistical problems with getting into the stadium and stuff that they're that they're battling with.
我觉得这次会非常非常吵，理论上曼城有可能在这种压力下崩溃。
I think it will be very, very noisy, and it's it's theoretically possible that City wilt in that.
我觉得你会看到很多歌声，罗格。
I think you're looking at looking at chants, Rog.
我觉得会有很多歌声。
I think there'll be a lot of chants.
我觉得很多歌声里会用到“骗子”这个词。
I think a lot of them will use the word cheat.
我觉得可能还会有横幅。
I think there might be banners.
我们可能已经进入横幅的范畴了。
We may be in banner territory.
我见过最好的提议是《What's the Story Stolen Glory》，我觉得这个在多个层面上都挺合适的。
The best one I've seen suggested is What's the Story Stolen Glory, which I think I think works on a number of levels.
不过这确实毁了我最喜欢的一首歌，但那是……
It does ruin one of my favorite songs, but that's a...
那……
That...
总会有附带损害的，罗格。
There's always collateral damage, Rog.
安菲尔德应该是全国愤怒的发泄口。
Anfield's meant to be the meant to be the vent for national outrage.
这就是这周末它要扮演的角色。
That's the role it has to play this weekend.
你觉得曼城球员上场时应该向利物浦致敬吗？
Do you think Manchester City players should be made to give Liverpool a god of honor when they take the field?
是的。
Yes.
但是带着……
But with the...
头顶上悬着巨大的星号，因为可能是，也可能不是。
Holding giant asterisks over their heads because it may it may be a god of It may not.
我的意思是，这确实是……
I mean, it is it it is...
就像你说的，剧本都不可能写得比这更好，把曼城安排到一个这样的场地，面对一支球队和一群球迷，他们觉得自己确实被抢走了几个冠军，可能是一两个，甚至更多，而且这个地方还以尖刻的幽默和用更巧妙的方式辱骂对手而自豪。
As you say, you couldn't have written a script better to to put City into a venue, you know, of a team and a fan base who feel like, you know, they were very specifically robbed of a couple of titles, of potentially a couple of a couple of a couple or two here and there, And you know, into a place that also prides itself on its acerbic wit and its capacity to to come up with slightly more sophisticated forms of hurling abuse at the opposition.
稍微有点。
Slightly.
对，确实。
Mean, yeah.
就像你说的，回到之前的问题，曼城的政策到底是什么？
As you say, referencing back to the previous question, you know, what is Citi's policy?
曼城的策略必须是，我们感到委屈，你知道，采取那种‘所有人都恨我们，我们不在乎’的态度，然后努力拼出一条路，拿到一个结果，让他们还能保住一点尊严。
Citi's policy has to be, we're aggrieved that, you know, to adopt the Immillewal approach, everybody hates us and we don't care kind of situation and just try and fight their way through and get a result that leaves them, you know, clinging on to the vestiges of some kind of pride.
我觉得霍兰德会到处喊，‘手套不合，你就得退出。’
I think Holland is gonna walk around just shouting, if the glove don't fit, you must have quit.
太棒了。
Amazing.
那太好了，尤其是如果他受伤了的话。
That would be great, especially if he's injured.
就像，绕着三面走一圈……
Like, just to go around all three sides of...
利物浦那边，手里拿着手套。
The Liverpool side with a glove.
就是……
Just...
天哪。
Oh my god.
顺便说一句，我另一边的想法是，曼城应该干脆把那个球场给毒蛇队，然后在开球前直接把英超奖杯递过去。
By way, the other side of me thinks City should just defangle the Venom by just taking that field and handing over a Premier League trophy before kickoff.
我不知道他们的……
I don't know what their...
罗格，关于这个的法律建议会是什么。
What the legal advice on that would be, Rog.
说实话，我觉得帕尼克大人可能得先被咨询一下，才能决定这是不是正确的做法。
If I'm honest, I feel like Lord Panic would probably have have to have to be consulted on that before deciding whether it was the correct course of action.
但我……
But I...
我觉得你可以期待曼城会稍微夺回一些话语权。
I think you can expect City to try and reclaim the word a little bit.
我会……
I'd...
我去过一些曼城作为客队的比赛。
I've been to games where City have been the away team The
主要的口号。
chief word.
在最近几年里。
In the last few years.
你是说他们引以为傲的地方。
To where where they pride, you mean.
他们高唱，你知道的，我们知道我们是什么。
Where they have chanted, you know, we know what we are.
我觉得这是足球界传统的防御方式，通过说‘实际上，这伤不到我们’来应对毒液。
And I think that that is a traditional football reflex of defended venom by by saying, actually, doesn't hurt us.
这伤不到我们。
This doesn't hurt us.
不管这是真的还是只是装出来的姿态，罗格，只有有毒的男子气概才能告诉你。
Whether that's true or whether it's just a posture, Rog, only toxic masculinity can tell you.
但他们还有另一件事……
But the other thing that they're...
我觉得曼城球迷还打算带一堆充气香蕉，这虽然不是英国人表达不满的传统方式，但这是对九十年代曼城经历另一段困难时期的致敬。
The other thing that that I think the City fans are are planning on doing is taking a load of inflatable bananas, which is which is not a traditional British way of indicating distress, but is is a reference to the to the nineteen nineties when City went through a different type of difficult time.
当时他们把主场缅因路和客场之旅变成了一种庆祝，庆祝他们在英格兰低级别联赛中挣扎的时光。
And they they turned their kind of main road, their old stadium, and their away trips into a kind of celebration of of the fact that they were trawling through the lower leads in England.
充气香蕉就是那个时期的象征。
And the inflatable banana is a symbol of that.
我觉得这挺……
And I think it's quite...
这其实是一种很有说服力的表达方式，意思是：我们支持我们的俱乐部。
It is quite an eloquent way of saying, like, we we stand by our club.
我们的历史比这一切都早，而且会一直存在。
We have a history here that that predates all of this, and that remains.
我觉得这本身就是曼城球迷一个很有力的形象，但别忘了，尽管他们在网上有些行为不太妥当。
I think that in itself is quite potent image from the City fans who are not, we should remember, despite some of their behavior online.
他们也是这件事的受害者，因为被抹黑的是他们俱乐部的名字。
They are also victims of this because it is their club's name that has been dragged through the mud.
我是说，充气香蕉是在曼城还在低级别联赛时流行起来的，那时候球迷依然热情，人数依然庞大，他们把这些充气香蕉抛来抛去，几乎是在表达这一切有多荒诞——支持、狂热、千里迢迢去看球。
I mean, the inflatable banana was was kind of broken out when City were in the lower leagues, where the fan base stayed passionate, stayed massive, and they'd bounce these inflatable bananas around almost to the sign of how surreal all of this was, support, fandom, traveling miles for this.
他们高唱“我们其实不在这里”。
They chant we're not really here.
这一切都那么超现实，充满了欢乐、联结和痛苦。
I mean, was all such a surreal, act of joy, connection, suffering.
他们过去经历过这些。
They've been there in the past.
我是说，当第一只充气香蕉在安菲尔德上空被抛起时，那种欢呼声里承载着多少层历史——在这个真正创造历史的时刻，这些历史都被唤醒了。
I mean, the layers of history, when that first inflatable banana strikes the Anfield air roar, It's the levels of history, that are being broken out in this in this truly history making moment.
这真的很了不起。
It is truly remarkable.
你提到了一个我正想说的点。
And you've hit upon one point I do wanna hit.
你觉得球员们在这种高度关注下上场，会有什么影响？
What impact do you think it will have for the footballers to take the field and this level of scrutiny?
你知道，这可能是最终团结一致的时刻，但也可能……
You know, the ultimate potentially circle the wagons moment, but it can all...
也真的会让人泄气。
Also be truly deflating.
世界杯上那次糟糕的‘巴利根’事件之后，和美国球员交谈时，他们说所有人都喜欢他们。
Speaking to the American players post the balligan awful affair in the in the World Cup, They said everyone loved them.
他们当时表现很好，然后‘巴利根’事件发生了，他们上场时被现实压垮了，感觉全世界突然都讨厌他们，他们几乎连球都踢不好了。
They were doing great, and then the balligan thing happened, and they took the field crushed by the realization that the whole world suddenly hated them and they couldn't barely kick a football.
这些都是细微差别的事情，对吧？
These are fine margin things, aren't they?
所以不需要太多……
So it doesn't take much to...
你不需要，比如，10%或15%或20%的表现下滑来……
You don't need, like, a 10 or 15 or 20% drop off in performance to...
来对结果产生影响。
For it to have an impact on the result.
你只需要百分之零点零五的表现下滑。
You need a naught point naught 5% drop off in performance.
你的注意力稍微不集中，或者被什么事情打断了专注。
Your focus to be just slightly off, your concentration to be broken by something.
我觉得所有这些球员以前都在非常令人紧张的氛围中比赛过，而且足球运动员总会告诉你，汉弗莱比我知道得更清楚。
All of those players, I think, will have played in really intimidating atmospheres before, and footballers will always tell you, Humphrey will know this better than I do.
他们会告诉你，当气氛积极时，观众会同时激励他们，但当气氛消极时，观众完全没有任何影响。
They'll tell you that the crowd simultaneously urges them on when it's positive, but makes absolutely no difference at all when it's negative.
这是球员们总是说的关于球场的两件事。
Those are the two the two things that players always say about about stadiums.
我认为主场优势在足球中是真实存在的，所以观众肯定有影响。
I think home advantage is a real thing in football, so the crowd must make a difference.
那……
That...
那是唯一可能的解释。
That's the only possible explanation for it.
我觉得安菲尔德会很有敌意。
Anfield, I think, will be hostile.
对于英超比赛来说，这种敌意会异常强烈。
It will be unusually hostile for for a Premier League game.
可能更像安菲尔德的欧冠之夜，而不是国内联赛的安菲尔德。
Might be more kind of champions league night on Anfield than than domestic game Anfield.
但话说回来，曼城确实有一支充满高水平球员的球队，我觉得他们有能力应对这种情况。
But that said, City do have a team full of high quality players who who I think are capable of dealing with that.
但我们不知道的一件事，这是唯一的……
But the one thing we don't know, and this is the only...
这就是当莫雷斯塔最终开口时我们会发现的，那就是这件事在多大程度上影响了他们作为俱乐部？
This is what we'll find out when when Moresta does eventually speak, is is to what extent has this got under their skin as a club?
他们开始多大程度地担心自己的未来？
To what extent are they starting to worry about their futures?
因为他们终究是人，很难把这种事情抛在脑后。
Because that they are ultimately human, and it's difficult to put stuff like that out of your mind.
这个夏天我们在美国经历了很多足球的美好回忆，之后我被问得最多的一个问题是，我怎么才能让这种魔力持续下去？
The one question I get most after all that football memory making we experienced across America this summer is, how do I keep the magic going?
首先，明确说出你最喜欢的是什么，然后在这个基础上继续发展。
Let's start by saying, articulate what you love the most and then build on it.
第一步，找到那支最可能让你心碎的球队，然后再加上所有必要的配套，来打造你的周末传统。
First step, find the team that will most probably break your heart and then add all the supporting necessities to build your weekend tradition.
我很多美好回忆的关键就是沃尔玛。
The key to so many of mine is Walmart.
那里什么都有，零食、咖啡、派。
The place that has it all, the snacks, the coffee, the pies.
你还可以在沃尔玛买到电视，还有坐在沙发上穿的连帽衫。
You can also get the TV at Walmart, the hoodie to wear on your couch.
如果需要的话，还可以买沙发，然后等着。
Get the couch if you need it and wait.
更棒的是，他们的快递服务可以直接送到你家门口，这样你就能准备好迎接开球了。
It gets better because their express delivery can get it right to your door so you're all set for kickoff.
无论你比赛日需要什么，都能在walmart.com/soccer找到。
Whatever your match day needs are, you can find them at walmart dot com slash soccer.
配送时间因订单大小、交通、天气和需求而异。
Delivery timing varies by order size, traffic, weather, and demand.
视供应情况而定，费用和条款适用。
Subject to availability, fees, terms apply.
所以几乎容易忘记这场比赛还有第二支球队。
So almost easy to forget there's a second team in this game.
利物浦足球俱乐部仍然不败，但在好人安多尼·伊劳拉的带领下，仍是一支正在建设中的球队。
Liverpool Football Club undefeated still, but also still a working football in progress under nice guy, Andoni Irola.
他最大的问题，就像许多教练在这次国际比赛日之后遇到的一样，都是关于球员体能状态的，因为这次国际比赛日几乎每个俱乐部都有球员受伤。
His biggest problems, like so many managers after this international break, which had been ridden with injuries for almost every club are fitness related.
本赛季表现出色的新中卫杰里米·雅克，在法国队时拉伤了腿筋。
A standout new performer of the season center back, Jeremy Jacques, picked up a hamstring strain with France.
亚历山大·伊萨克，刚从瑞典回来，大腿有点小伤，得记住球门在哪。
Alexander Isaac, just remember where the goal is with his return from Sweden with thigh knack.
重生的科迪·加克波在脚踝上还要接受一次最后的体能测试。
Born again Cody Gakpo faces a late fitness test on his ankle.
如果最后这两位中的任何一位能进入大名单，我觉得对曼城来说就是无限准备的机会。
If either of the last two make the squad, think it's gonna be unlimited preparation on the city side.
你提到那位著名的动物标本爱好者埃尔林·哈兰德的健康状况是个问题。
You noted that famous taxidermy enthusiast, Erlin Haaland's fitness is a question.
他在国际比赛日期间因疲劳提前离开了挪威队的比赛，但这是一场宿敌之战。
He left a Norway game with fatigue during the break, but this is a grudge match.
你觉得在这种超现实的情况下，赫尔城会怎么踢？
How do you expect Hull City to play it under these surreal circumstances?
这是……
This is...
还记得他在利物浦对阵一支强大的英格兰对手时的第一次大考验吗？
Remember his first big text against a massive English opponent at Liverpool.
曼城一直进球如麻。
City have been free scoring.
利物浦会得到忠实球迷的全力支持，他们满怀期待，斗志昂扬。
Liverpool are gonna be roared on by the faithful expecting justice with fire in the belly.
这场比赛会是什么样子？
What kind of game is this gonna be?
这真的很难说，对吧？
It's so hard to say, isn't it?
因为这种比赛，教练们往往会突然冒险，或者做出一些奇怪的调整，试图利用这种特殊的情况。
Because because these are the sorts of games where managers suddenly roll the dice or suddenly do something quite strange in an attempt to kind of harness the particular set of circumstances.
我觉得，阿里奥拉要传达的信息肯定是，要利用好这种气氛。
I mean, think, Ariola's message has got to be, you know, harness this this atmosphere.
抓住对手的失误，一开始就全力以赴，高位逼抢。
Pounce on mistakes, go hard early, press high.
感觉在国际比赛日之前，利物浦的逼抢体系已经开始有点成型了。
Like, felt like Liverpool was starting to get their pressing game together a little bit before the international break.
看看谁能不能上场，谁不能上场，会很有意思。毕竟这个国际比赛日特别长，而且俱乐部和国家队之间可能有协议，如果有一点点不对劲的迹象，就会……
It will be really interesting to see who's available, who's not, like, with this vast eons long international break, like, whether there's part of the agreement between clubs and and countries was to say if there's the slightest suggestion that something has gone wrong.
所以也许有些伤病比之前看到的要轻一些。
So perhaps some of these injuries are are smaller than previously observed.
从利物浦的角度来看，如果没有首发球员准备好上场，真的很难判断。
It's gonna be so hard to tell without without having, you know, from Liverpool's perspective, without having necessarily their first choice players ready to go.
这是否意味着他们会采取更谨慎的策略？
Does that suggest an element of caution will be inserted?
对我来说，我觉得就该放手一搏。
For me, I think go for it.
你必须主动出击，想办法让他们不舒服。
You got you gotta go at them and try and discomfort them in some way.
我觉得完全正确，在这种情况下，伊劳拉应该利用安菲尔德球场内的那种能量。
I think that's absolutely right that that in the circumstances, Iriola should be looking to harness kind of kind of the energy that will be inside Anfield.
这……
It's...
感觉这场比赛需要快速开局来打乱曼城的节奏。
It feels like a a game for a fast start to unsettle City.
而且还要试着在心理上稍微占点优势，去……
And to try and win that, like, psychological battle a little bit to...
他们肯定会处于心理上很脆弱的状态。
That they they will be in be in a psychologically delicate place.
他们不可能不是这样。
There is no way they are not.
所以你需要……
So you need...
说白了，你需要……
Looking at it brutally, you need...
得尽量利用这一点。
Kinda need to exploit that as much as you can.
来，给我预测一下。
Hit me with the predictions.
剧透警告。
Spoiler alert.
这场比赛会怎么发展？
How's this game gonna go?
直接说？
Raw?
我觉得结果再明显不过了，利物浦1比0，曼城2比0，哈兰德梅开二度。
I think there has never been a more obvious outcome, which is Liverpool one, Manchester City two, Erling Haaland twice.
如果他上场的话，老浣熊先生，哼。
If he plays old raccoon meister humpf.
我已经……
I have gone...
像所有古代英雄一样，我大胆预测2比2。
Like all the great heroes of old, I've gone bold and predicted two two.
你会看到的，一场非常不绅士的2比2，而且是个绝佳机会，让我们推出最新的STNG杰作，基于汉弗莱在上一集里说的那句话：放出平局猎犬。
You'll see, a very ungentlemanly two two and an amazing opportunity to tee up our latest STNG masterpiece based on the phrase Humphrey coined in our last episode, release the draw hounds.
放出平局猎犬。
Release the draw hounds.
想想还有人批评AI呢。
And to think people criticize AI.
你是怎么让AI做到那点的？
How do you get AI?
做到那个？
To do that?
那些是真狗。
Those are real dogs.
不是AI。
It's not AI.
我不是那个意思。
I'm not.
是真狗。
Real dogs.
只是训练得非常好的狗。
Just really well trained dogs.
彼得，如果你在看的话，那些是真的狗。
Peter, if you're watching, they were real dogs.
这个节目不用AI。
They don't do AI on this show.
我们可是把整个十月的制作预算7.23美元都花在那个宝贝身上了。
We did blow our whole October production budget $7.23 on that beauty.
说到这儿，我花了很多时间思考曼城球迷的感受。
To cap this story, I've spent a lot of time thinking about how City fans feel.
我们聊过，现在的播客比以往任何时候都多。
We talked about there was more more pods than of all time.
读和听那些内容真的很有意思……
It's fascinating reading and listening to...
看他们发的推文，试着理解他们对这支球队、对老板、对自己情绪和回忆的感受。
Reading their tweets as they try and process how they feel about this team, their owners, their own emotions, and memories.
我得说，我发现利亚姆·加拉格尔的推特真的让人感觉很有人情味。
I must say, I'm finding Liam Gallagher's Twitter feed very enriching humanly to experience.
天哪，罗里，老兄，我挑了几条。
And gosh, Rory, dude, I I pulled a couple.
第一条你来念怎么样？
Can you do the honors on the first one?
我？我可以吗？
I mean, can I?
我不知道。
I don't know.
我不确定在节目上该不该说这些话。
I'm not sure if I'd say any of these words on a broadcast.
这是利亚姆·加拉格尔说的，他是绿洲乐队的主唱，那支乐队本该成为披头士那样的传奇。
This is from Liam Gallagher, front man of Oasis, the band that the Beatles could have been.
英超应该把他们降级，抓住他们，然后把钥匙扔掉。
The PL are relegate them, find them, and throw away the key.
那这里的“他们”指的是谁呢？
Now, who is who is the them and the they in that?
我不知道。
I don't know.
我觉得他是在说他的……
I think he's his...
他是想把整个英超联赛都降级并罚款吗？
Does he want the whole Premier League relegated and fined?
我觉得他把宾语和主语搞混了。
I think he's got his objects and his subjects mixed up.
不管他在说什么，不管那个“他们”指的是谁，我觉得可以肯定的是，他非常……
I do think it's safe to say from that, whatever he's saying, whatever the them and the they, he's very much...
看起来他正处于悲伤的第一阶段，震惊和否认之中。
Seen he's in the shock and denial first stage of grief here.
他真是典型的罗西风格。
He's tubular Rossi.
再来一个。
T up another.
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其他俱乐部对曼城的这些仇恨，应该冲着阿森纳、曼联和利物浦去。
All this hatred directed at Man City from other clubs should be directed at Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool.
他们才是腐败的，想阻止其他球队夺冠，而不是曼城。
They're the ones who are corrupt and trying to stop other teams from winning things, not Man City.
我们是在帮你们所有人，就像耶稣准备在十字架上牺牲一样。
We're we're trying to help you all out like Jesus prepared to die on Crocs.
这个口音有点乱。
It's a bit all over the place, that accent.
但还是很有气势。
But it's still demanding.
我是说，再想想我的《新约》，我们的主和救世主耶稣基督，他在所罗门圣殿里掀翻了兑换银钱之人的桌子，对吧？
I mean, again, when I think of my New Testament, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I mean, turned over the table of the money lenders in the in the Temple Of Solomon, didn't he?
他把那些假法利赛人赶了出去。
He cast the the false pharisees out.
他说，曼城，滚出去。
Sham city, he said.
耶稣说，这是假的。
Jesus said, sham.
耶稣说这是个骗局，是场政治迫害。
Jesus said that this is a sham and it's a and it's a witch hunt.
然后，当然，他出了名地搞了一堆空壳公司，给自己转了一大笔钱。
And then, of course, he famously created a series of shell companies to pay himself a loads of money.
那些鱼和面包，都是从哪儿来的？
All those fish and loaves, where do they come from?
大家都得吃鱼和面包。
Everyone must have you eat the fish and loaves.
你不会想问它们是从哪儿来的。
You don't wanna ask where they came from.
你懂我的意思吧？
Do know what I mean?
我觉得他……
Think he...
我觉得你把他跟杰瑞·福尔韦尔搞混了。
I think you're confusing him with Jerry Falwell.
这很容易搞混。
I think easy to do.
很容易搞混。
Easily done.
确实容易搞混。
It's easy to do.
你是在指控耶稣洗钱吗？
Are you accusing Jesus of miracle washing?
是不是这个意思？
Is that is that what it is?
有可能。
Possibly.
罗里，用第三个，可能是最精彩的一个，来给我们收尾吧。
Rory, take us home with a third and possibly the masterpiece.
这些球探给了我，还有我的乐队……
All these scouts has given me and my band...
绿洲乐队为利物浦这座城市做的贡献，比他们一辈子做的都多。
Oasis have done more for the city of Liverpool than they than they will ever do.
绿洲乐队让披头士重新回到了大众视野，他们无疑从中直接获益。
Oasis put the Beatles back on the map, which they no doubt directly profit from.
忘恩负义的小崽子们，曼城、LG、KISS。
Ungrateful little sods, MCFC, LG, KISS.
这是我们公认的音乐历史版本，作为一个社会和一种文化，我们曾经把披头士给忘了。
That's an accepted version of musical history that we had, as a as a society and a culture, we had forgotten the Beatles.
然后绿洲乐队在九十年代中期出现了。
And then Oasis came came along in the in the mid nineteen nineties.
把这个小众乐队给捞了出来。
Pluck them out, this obscure band.
没错。
Exactly.
他们当时……
They were...
在绿洲之前，披头士根本不算什么。
The Beatles were not a thing before Oasis.
我想我们都同意这一点。
I think we can all agree on
对。
that.
我还是不太清楚披头士是谁，但有时候在苹果音乐或者其他流媒体服务上，我的绿洲歌曲放完之后，会自动播放一些关于潜艇之类的歌。
I still don't really know what the Beatles are, but every now and then on on Apple Apple Music or whatever or other streaming services are available, when my Oasis song finishes, it will sometimes auto play me to some other song about a submarine or something.
全是胡说八道。
A load of nonsense.
这不是算法说那首歌抄袭了这首歌。
It's not the algorithm saying that song ripped off this song.
不过，伙计们，那句名言是什么来着？
What was the famous quote though, lads?
起初，他们冲着我们的披头士来，我没说话，因为我不是披头士。
First, they came for our Beatles and that did not speak out because I was not a Beatle.
但后来，他们冲着我们的杰米·卡拉格来，等等等等。
But then they came for our Jamie Carriggers and dot dot dot.
他要把所有借口都收走。
He's coming for all the excuses.
哈哈……
He he...
利亚姆·加拉格尔在这件事上已经成了个很有口才的发言人了。
He's become a very eloquent spokesman on the matter, Liam Gallagher.
顺便说一句，有人一直尽量不夸张。
By the way, someone that tries not to be hyperbolic at all times.
我看看利亚姆对耶稣和披头士做了什么。
I look at what Liam's done with Jesus and the Beatles.
我就想说，先生，我脱帽致敬。
I'm like, sir, I take my hat off.
接下来是阿森纳。
Next up, Arsenal.
好的。
Okay.
利兹联队可是个难缠的对手。
It's a pugnacious Leeds United.
提醒一下，记得把咖啡机设成自动煮。
Reminder to set your coffee machine to auto brew.
这场比赛是周六早上7点半，美国东部时间，在USA频道播出。
This one kicks off 07:30AM eastern on Saturday on USA.
由于赛程安排，这是阿森纳自9月5日以来在英超的首个主场比赛。
By quirk of schedule, this is Arsenal's first home game since September 5 in the Premier League.
我们离开卫冕冠军时，他们刚刚挨了本赛季最重的一记重拳。
We left our reigning champions after taking their first heavy punch in the downblows of the season.
真是普罗米修斯式的命运，被布莱顿的海鸥们三比零啄死。
A proper Promethean fate, three nil death by pecking against the Seagulls of Brighton.
这周他们宣布了与米克尔·阿尔特塔续约四年，使他成为英超薪水最高的教练，年薪高达2640万克朗。
This week, they announced a new four year contract for Mikel Arteta made the Premier League's highest paid manager sweet 26,400,000 cronky dollars a year.
这是对米克尔这位大款教练本赛季的第一次考验。
This is first test for old Mikel moneybags this season.
利兹联队意外地紧握拳头，目前排名第五，还没有输过，但他们自2003年以来从未在阿森纳主场赢过球。
The surprise clinched fist, fifth place lead still yet to lose themselves, but they haven't won away at Arsenal since 2003.
那场比赛他们以3比2获胜。
They came out of that game with a three two win.
罗里·史密斯，查理·约克郡。
Rory Smith, Charlie Yorkshire.
你能猜到那天利兹联队进致胜球的英雄是谁吗？
Can you guess the Leeds hero who scored the winning goal on that day?
我记得那场比赛。
I remember that game.
我觉得是马克·维杜卡进的球。
I feel like Mark Vedutra scored.
你刚才是瞎猜的吧？
Did you just pull it out of your anus?
我是凭经验猜的，可不是瞎蒙的。
It was an educated guess, but it was not from my anus.
大杜克可是澳大利亚的传奇人物。
Big Duke's Australian legend.
你说对了，先生。
You are correct, sir.
是吗？
Was it
是维杜特拉进的制胜球吗？
was it Vedutra scored the winner?
追加一个问题。
Follow-up question.
你……
Do you
你知道大杜克现在在做什么吗？
know what Big Dukes does now?
他在萨格勒布开了一家咖啡店。
He runs a coffee shop in in Zagreb.
在克罗地亚的山里。
In the Croatian mountains.
你能想象吗，每个2000年代的英超传奇球员都应该开一家糖果店。
Can you imagine every naughties Premier League cult hero should open some kind of confectionery shop.
他就像维杜卡一样，是个真正的老派人物，回到了足球隐士的时代。
He's a proper throwback, as Viduka, to the days of the footballing recluse.
所以，他没有像其他球员那样在退役后当教练、做评论员或者成为TikTok明星，马克·维杜卡就完全消失了。
So rather than launch a a kind of post playing career as a coach or a pundit or as a TikTok star, Mark Viduka has just disappeared completely.
他拒绝接受采访。
He will not do interviews.
他从不说话。
He does not speak.
他不追求聚光灯。
He does not seek the limelight.
他显然……
He's obviously...
他为澳大利亚踢过球，但现在人在克罗地亚。
He played for Australia, but he's in Croatia.
他就是个曾经踢过球的人，我觉得这种态度真的很难不让人敬佩。
He's just a guy who used to play football, and I think it's really hard not to admire that.
他都不说话的。
He doesn't speak.
如果你……
If you are...
如果你跟他要一杯大杯拿铁，他不会……
If you ask him for a venti latte, he doesn't...
他就默默做给你。
He just silently makes it.
首先，他在欧洲。
For a start, he's in Europe.
没人会点超大杯拿铁。
Nobody's asking for a venti latte.
那种事根本不会发生。
That is not a thing that's happening.
你像个大人一样点一杯正经咖啡，他就会给你做。
You ask for a proper coffee like a grown up, then he'll give you one.
他不会给你做小孩喝的饮料。
He won't give you a child's drink.
你能想象走进星巴克，发现你的咖啡师是戴维·希曼吗？
Can you imagine going into a Starbucks and having David Seaman just as your barista?
哈里·凯尔在咖世家。
Harry Kuehl in Costa.
行吧。
Fine.
他在高加索山脉深处开了一个荷兰糖浆华夫饼摊。
He runs a Stroopwafel station in in the in the interior mountains of the of the of the caucuses.
回到足球，阿森纳，他们能反弹吗？
To the football, Arsenal, can they bounce back?
这是对他们阵容深度的第一次考验。
Feating a first test of their depth chart.
新边锋兼万人迷，水晶宫的索利斯，凯·哈维茨，两人都在国际比赛日期间因肌肉伤病接受了扫描。
New winger and heartthrob, Crystal Solis, Kai Havitz, both reports have undergone scans for muscular injuries during the international break.
也许维克托·约查雷斯或米克尔·马里诺会在酋长球场领衔锋线。
Perhaps either one of Victor Jocharez or Mikel Marino will lead the line at the Emirates.
对了，我们这周请到了布莱顿的主帅法比安·赫泽尔。
Raw, we had Brighton manager, Fabian Hertzel, join us this week.
他谈到了如何击败阿森纳。
He talked about how to beat Arsenal.
那个采访周五会在本YouTube频道上线，他详细讲解了赢得比赛的诀窍，让球队相信自己能踢出自己的风格。
That interview drops on Friday on this YouTube channel, and he broke down the art of winning jewels, making a team believe they can play their own game.
那场比赛，布莱顿的转换进攻，是偶然一次，还是海鸥队给其他球队提供了一套模板，比如利兹联，他们也喜欢直接进攻，喜欢在转换中快速推进？
In that case, in transition for Brighton, Was that a one off, or did the Seagulls deliver a blueprint that other teams, let's say Leeds, who love to play directly, love to play at pace in transition themselves?
他们能照着做吗？
Is it something they can follow?
我觉得制定一套模板很容易，布莱顿可能确实找到了一种办法，希望能从之前那台坚不可摧的阿森纳机器身上捞到点什么。
I I think it's very easy to have a blueprint, It may well be that Brighton have have identified a way that you can hope to get kind of something out of this this previously impermeable arsenal machine.
但照着模板做真的很难。
But following that blueprint is really difficult.
这需要一切完美运转，需要你的球队对对手产生那种必要的心理影响。
It relies on everything working perfectly, on your team having the requisite like psychological effects on on the opposition.
所以，尽管利兹联会带着一个可能行得通的计划进入那场比赛，丹尼尔·帕克也会带着计划上场，而且可能和布莱顿的有些相似，但你需要太多事情都顺顺利利，才能得到那样的结果，所以可能性仍然很小。
So as much as Leeds will go into that game, Daniel Parker will go into that game with a plan that could conceivably work and might have some similarities to Brighton's, you need so many things to go right for you for for that to be the to be the outcome that it's still very unlikely.
不过话说回来，利兹联拥有英超并列最好的防守。
But that said, the Leeds have the joint best defense in the Premier League.
他们保持不败。
They are unbeaten.
他们这个赛季看起来确实很顽强，进攻端也很有威胁。
They have looked really kind of dowty this season and dangerous going forward.
所以这对阿森纳来说是个挑战，但毕竟对手是阿森纳。
So it it is a challenge for Arsenal, but then it's Arsenal.
所以我觉得我们应该记住，他们……
So I think we should remember that they are...
他们往往能克服挑战。
They tend to overcome challenges.
对于利兹联来说，选择什么时候面对阿森纳，什么时候才是理想时机？
For field leads and choosing when to face Arsenal, when is the ideal time?
是不是永远都不是时候？
Is it never?
我的意思是，是的。
I mean, yes.
这很难……
It's hard to...
赛程里确实有那么一小段空隙，是碰他们的好时机。
There's a tiny there's a tiny crack somewhere in the schedule where it's a good time to face them.
我是说，这可能就是那个时机，就像你说的，那种经典的长时间……
I mean, this this could be it, as you say, with that classic thing of a long...
又是那种漫长的国际比赛日，让阿森纳有时间去消化他们对阵海鸥队的失利。
Again, a long long time international break for Arsenal Stew on their misadventures against the Seagulls.
法尔克也有大把时间去研究那场比赛的战术模板。
There is a little blueprint there at which Farker has also had a lot of time to look at.
而且我……
And I...
就像我之前在节目里说的，我觉得丹尼尔·法尔克是个很出色的教练，而且我觉得这场对决会很有意思。
As I said, I think on the show a while ago, I think Daniel Farker is a great manager, and and I think it's quite an intriguing matchup.
我们接下来要聊预测了。
We're gonna get to predictions.
丹尼尔·法尔克也是我见过的所有足球教练里，腿最亮的。
Daniel Farker also has the shiniest legs of any football manager I've ever...
他享受一个非常温暖的家庭环境。
Enjoys a very warm domestic environment.
他是个很有意思的人。
He's a fascinating man.
直接说预测吧。
Raw predictions.
这是一个……
This is a...
对阿森纳来说，这场比赛有点难。
It's a difficult one for Arsenal.
我觉得他们会踢得比较艰难，但最终会以2比0获胜。
I think it will be a bit of a grind for them, but I think they will come through it with a two goals to nil victory.
我也预测了2比0。
I too have gone for two goals to nil.
感觉阿森纳很容易就能回到正轨。
It does feel as though, you know, Arsenal will be very easy to get things back on track.
我觉得利兹联这个赛季表现得很出色，但话说回来，这可是阿森纳啊。
I think Leeds have done brilliant this season, but again, it's blinking Arsenal.
你知道吗，如果你照着罗的预测来，你显然就是这么做的，那你……
You know, if you copy Raw's results, which you're clearly doing, you...
你永远追不上那个疯狂的家伙。
You'll never catch up with that mad bastard.
我只是罗格，我们都是
I'm just Rog, we're all
不得不，不得不采取一种策……
having to having to take a tact...
策略性的方法来应对这个。
Tactical approach to this.
大卫·德雷尔。
David Dreyer.
我正在采取
I'm taking
把它带到角旗区。
it into the corner flag.
我就是阿维德雷亚。
I'm just Avidreya.
这个联赛降级了。
This league down.
你对第三名很满意。
You're very happy with third place.
我就是要拖时间。
I'm just gonna run the clock down.
阿维德雷亚被击败了，就在……
Avidreya was beaten right...
是不是被布莱顿两次远射打败了？
Was it twice from long distance by Brighton?
DCL只会捡漏。
DCL only does tap ins.
这球会是阿森纳2比1。
This is gonna be two one to Arsenal.
现在转到两支球队，他们就像被困在一部北欧独立黑色喜剧里，讲的是情感继承、代际衰败和心理包袱。
Moving now to two teams trapped in an indie Scandinavian dark comedy film about emotional inheritance, generational decay, and traumatic baggage.
曼联对阵热刺，周六东部时间中午12点半，NBC播出。
Manchester United against Tottenham, 12:30PM eastern Saturday on NBC.
这两支球队该从哪儿说起呢？
Where to start with these two teams?
曼联自从对伊普斯维奇进了五个球之后，平了两场，输了一场，而且本赛季每场比赛几乎都是先丢球。
United, since putting five past Ipswich have drawn two, lost one, conceded first in all but one of their games this season.
与此同时，热刺，老天保佑他们，好像每前进一步就要后退一步。
Meanwhile, Spurs, god bless them, seem to take a step backwards for every step forward.
他们十月初在英超垫底。
They begin October rock bottom of the Premier League.
我为热刺球迷感到心疼，但每当我想到他们本赛季的表现，我不想夸大其词，但他们确实让我想起那场在俄罗斯蔓延的鼠疫。
I ache for Tottenham fans hump, but when I do think about their team this season, don't like to be hyperbolic, but they do remind me of that pneumonic plague spreading across Russia.
什么能让这支球队有所改变？
What can animate change in that squad?
是教练的问题吗？
Is it coaching?
还是球员们要站出来？
Is it individuals stepping up?
我是说，他们需要怎么做才能重新连接这种明显的脱节？
I mean, what do they need to reconnect to this evident disconnection?
很明显，他们急需一次彻底的调整。
It's clear that a reset is desperately in need.
而且，也许这段时间足够让他们喘口气，不再被一场接一场的比赛压得喘不过气来。
And, perhaps this this window of time will have been enough for them to kind of not be overwhelmed by the relentless run of game after game after game.
而且，你知道，很多球员都去参加国际比赛了，不管是什么比赛。
And, you know, many of their players have gone away in internationally, whatever it may be.
但显然，德塞尔比和他的教练组应该有时间好好想想，怎么才能止住颓势，阻止下滑。
But, obviously, De Serbia and his coaches would have had a bit of time to desperately try and get their heads around how do we stop the rot and stop the slide.
说‘止住颓势’其实不太准确，因为……
Stopping the rot is not even the right phrase because it's...
这么说好像他们曾经是一艘健康的船似的。
That makes it sound like they were at one stage a healthy ship.
其实他们从来就没健康过。
They haven't been really at at any point.
我对他们抱有希望。
I'm hopeful for them.
我有很多朋友是热刺球迷。
I have lots of friends who are Spurs fans.
我对热刺有点偏爱。
I have a sort of slight soft spot for Spurs.
我希望他们能表现得好一些。
I hope they'll they'll do better.
话虽如此，等你看我的预测就知道了，我不觉得这周六他们一定能赢。
That said, as you'll see when my prediction comes up, I don't think it's gonna come this Saturday necessarily.
哦，真够呛。
Oh, raw.
看看曼联接下来的赛程。
Looking ahead at Manchester United's upcoming schedule.
你看，十一月国际比赛日之后，他们这周末要打热刺，然后是马德里竞技、利兹联、难缠的科莫、罗马、阿斯顿维拉。
See now in the November international break, they have to face, yes, Spurs this weekend, then Athletico Madrid, Leeds United, feisty Como, Roma, Aston Villa.
简单问题：这一轮比赛结束后，迈克尔·卡里克还会是曼联的主教练吗？
Simple question, will Michael Carrick be manager at Manchester United by the end of this run?
会。
Yes.
我觉得这个问题答案挺简单的，尤其是因为我挺喜欢亨弗。
I think I think you can give a relative relatively easy answer to that, not least because I I like Humpf.
我……
I...
我……
I...
剧透警告。
Spoiler alert.
我觉得他们会赢热刺。
I think they'll beat Spurs.
但曼联现在处于这种状态，既在永久危机中，又在永久从危机中恢复中。
But United are in this situation now where they exist both in a state of permanent crisis and permanent recovery from crisis.
如果他们赢了，我们就会被告知他们回来了，而且，你知道，卡里克已经解决了……
If they win, then we will be told that they are back and that, you know, Carrot has got the...
已经解决了所有问题，我们又回到了，你知道，一帆风顺的状态。
Has has got rid of all the problems, and and we're back back on, you know, smooth sailing.
然后他们又会输给马竞或者科莫，或者在利兹联输球。
And then they'll lose again to Atletico or to Como or they'll lose at Leeds
或者其他什么的，那是一场……
or whatever, which is a
一场重要的比赛，一个充满敌意的环境，那又会引发新的危机。
a huge game, a kind of hostile environment, and that will start the crisis again.
这就是曼联的节奏。
That is the the rhythm of Manchester United.
看看其他球队，除了上周安东尼奥·孔蒂嘴里发出的某些声音，而不是他身体其他部位发出的声音。
Looking around other than certain noises coming out of Antonio Conte in the last week from his mouth rather than any other part of his body.
那可能更好。
That's probably better.
他不是在做那种事。
He's not doing one of those.
孔蒂在发出“我可用”的信号。
Conte's sending out the I'm available signal.
我不知道该怎么从那种情况中恢复过来。
I don't know how to recover from that.
孔蒂似乎说了类似……
Conte seems to have said kind of...
孔蒂接受了播客的朋友詹姆斯·霍恩卡斯尔在《The Athletic》的采访。
Conte gave an interview to friend of the pod, James Horncastle in The Athletic.
我不理你了，罗格。
I'm ignoring you, Rog.
然后他大概说了，听着，其实我现在有空，我喜欢那些失去历史感的俱乐部，也许我能帮他们找回历史。
And and sort of said, look, actually, I'm available, and I like clubs where they've lost a sense of their history, and maybe I could help them rediscover their history.
我觉得曼联不会轻易决定解雇卡里克，而且我也不认为卡里克会表现差到让俱乐部不得不动手。
I don't think United would make the decision to sack Carrick that lightly, and I don't think Carrick will have a run of form bad enough to force their hand.
太搞笑了。
It's so funny.
他说那句话的时候，我还以为他指的是迈阿密，快来接我。
When he said that, I just thought he meant into Miami, come and get me.
罗，给我们你的比分预测吧。
Raw, hit us with your score prediction.
我的比分预测是，罗格，这场比赛会由曼城主导，机会很多。
My score prediction is I think it will be a game dominated, Rog, by chance about Manchester City.
而且我觉得比赛会相当好看，比较开放，两支球队都喜欢进攻但都不太擅长，曼联会以二比一赢下比赛。
And I think it will be actually quite entertaining, quite open, two teams who like to attack but aren't very good, and Manchester United will win by two goals to one.
我也觉得那场比赛你会听到很多关于曼城的话题。
I also believe that you'll hear a lot about Manchester City in that game.
我选的是曼联干净利落地赢2比0。
And I have gone for a cleaner two nil to Manchester United.
我还是担心热刺在那种比赛里进不了球。
I still worry that Spurs don't go to goal in them.
我觉得热刺会进球的。
I think Spurs are gonna score.
可惜曼联会进三个球，3比1。
Unfortunately, United does score three times, three one.
热刺，有一盏永不熄灭的灯。
Tottenham, there's a light that never goes out.
各位，现在是我们的听众互动环节。
Gents, it's time for a segment in which we get to hear from you, the listeners.
欢迎来到足球俱乐部。
This is welcome to the football club.
小心了，Rob和Ryan，因为我们和沃尔玛的朋友们联手打造了一个俱乐部。
Look out, Rob and Ryan, because we have teamed up to build a club with our friends at Walmart.
我们的俱乐部为这个美丽国家的足球迷们喝彩。
Our club celebrates football fans across this beautiful nation.
所有听众都可以把你们的故事发给我们。
All of you listeners can send your stories in.
本周，我们欢迎来自俄勒冈州波特兰这座美丽城市的Amanda Jane和Lily。
This week, we welcome Amanda Jane and Lily from the magnificent city of Portland, Oregon.
Raw，你来主持吧。
Raw do the honors.
我叫Amanda Jane，不是我的名字。
My name is Amanda Jane, not mine.
我和我女儿Lily从她小时候起就喜欢每四年收看一次世界杯。
And my daughter Lily and I have loved tuning into the World Cup every four years since she was a kid.
但今年是Lily搬出去之后的第一届世界杯。
But this year's was the first World Cup that has happened since since Lily moved out.
现在她有自己的小孩了，说实话，我之前不确定我们还能不能像以前那样一起看这届世界杯。
Now she has young kids of her own, and I honestly wasn't sure if we'd watch this World Cup together in the same way we had in the past.
幸好，也许是因为这届在美国举办，她挺感兴趣的。
Thankfully, perhaps because it all went down in America, it captured her interest.
实际上，我觉得我们比以往任何时候看的比赛都多，而且完全爱上了，这其实也是我和罗格一起看世界杯的感受。
In fact, I think we watched more games together than ever before and fell completely in love, which is actually my experience of watching the World Cup with Rog.
真的。
For reals.
这就是你想让我读这篇的原因吗？
Is that why you wanted me to read this one?
嗯，我知道。
Well, I know.
这其实是在讲……
It's really about...
这是一个很明显的隐喻。
It's a thinly veiled allegory.
只是，你写了
It's just, did you write
这个，罗杰？
this, Roger?
嗯，
Well,
我是阿曼达·简吗？
am I Amanda Jane?
我不知道。
I don't know.
你是阿曼达·简和罗里·莉莉吗？
Are you Amanda Jane and Rory Lily?
我是……
Am I...
我们都是。
We all.
也许吧。
Maybe.
你知道，
You know a
我们每个人身上都有点阿曼达·简的影子。
bit of Amanda Jane in all of us.
继续，
Roar, keep
加油。
going.
随着比赛接近尾声，我遗憾地意识到，没有它，我就会失去和女儿之间这种新的联系和共度的美好时光。
As the tournament neared the end, I realized with sadness that without it, I would lose this new connection and quality time shared with my daughter.
想象一下，当莉莉问我们是不是该找一支英超球队来支持时，我有多高兴。
Imagine my delight then when when Lily asked if we should find a Premier League team to support.
我们开始寻找。
We started to search.
我有种不祥的预感。
I've got a sinking feeling.
我们不想要一支总是赢球的球队。
We didn't want a team that would be winning all of the time.
对。
Yep.
我知道接下来会发生什么。
I know where this is going.
我们喜欢体验各种情绪。
We like to experience all of the emotions.
最后，不是别人，正是乔丹·皮特福德，红牌，赢得了我们的心。
In the end, no lesser character than Jordan Pittford, red flag, won our hearts.
所以长话短说，我们现在是狂热的埃弗顿球迷。
So to cut a long story short, we are now fanatical Evertonians.
我不想发表评论。
I don't wanna editorialize.
这可不是跟孩子保持联系的好方式。
This is a terrible way of keeping in touch with your children.
太妃糖队给了我们想要的一切。
The Toffees give us everything we were looking for.
高潮、低谷、紧张到咬指甲。
The highs, the horrors, the nail biting.
我整个星期都在期待……
I get to spend all week in anticipate...
期待着我们这周末会怎么输。
In anticipation of how...
期待着我们这周末会怎么输。
Of wondering how we are going to lose this weekend.
最重要的是，现在我们每场比赛都一起看。
Most importantly, now we watch every game together.
这周末我要在她家过夜，这样我们就能一起看对阵赫尔城的比赛了。
I'm sleeping over at her house so we can watch the game against Hull this weekend.
埃弗顿帮助我们以非常积极的方式改善了关系。
Everton has helped change our relationship in such a positive way.
每周，我看着房间里的女儿和她的小孩子们，不仅看到三代足球迷，还看到足球将带来的成千上万小时的相聚时光，以及意识到这不仅仅是关于足球，也不仅仅是关于埃弗顿，更多的是关于这项运动带来的快乐，让我们成为彼此生活中更重要的一部分。
Each week, I look around the room at my daughter and her small kids and see not only three generations of football fans, but the thousands of hours that football will bring us together with regularity and the realization that it's less about the football, it has to do with Everton, and more about the joy of this game making us a bigger part of one another's lives.
我无法形容我对世界杯、对英超联赛有多么感激，因为它们让这一切更加紧密。
I can't describe to you how thankful I am for the World Cup, for the English Premier League, for bringing this together even more.
是的，甚至包括埃弗顿。
And yes, even the Toffees.
然后有一个四个字母的缩写，我拒绝……
There's then a four letter acronym which I refuse to
读出来。
read.
UTFT。
UTFT.
是UTFT，我不喜欢它。
It's UTFT, and I don't like it.
这封信写得真美。
It's a beautiful letter.
通过共同的痛苦把几代人聚在一起，这努力真不错。
Efforts bringing generations together through shared trauma.
我我我欣赏这份心意，但我觉得这选择太糟糕了。
I I I admire the sentiment, but I just think it's a terrible choice.
你……
Do you...
我得说，作为一个非常肤浅的利物浦球迷，我很欣赏这一点。
I admire, I have to say, is as someone who is a very plastic Liverpool fan.
比如，我就是那种人，我支持一支球队，除了看他们比赛让我心里舒服之外，我跟他们没有任何联系。
Like, I'm someone who has that perspective of I I came to support a team that I didn't have any connection to other than just they made me feel nice in my tummy when I watched them.
我觉得选埃弗顿这样的球队，你最好的期待就是在安菲尔德客场拿到一场1比1的平局，然后庆祝得像赢了欧冠一样。
I think to pick a team like Everton where the best you've got to look forward to is getting a one one draw away at Anfield and celebrating like you've won won the Champions League.
这有点非常……
There's something very...
这其中有某种崇高的东西。
There's something noble about that.
这就是纯粹。
That's the purity.
这就是足球的魅力，我对此表示钦佩。
That's the magic of football, and I admire that.
我喜欢沃尔玛，从厄德高时代起就是最佳超市。
I love Walmart, Best Mart since Erdegaard.
没有哪家商店能像沃尔玛那样，帮助足球迷囤积足球周末所需的一切。
No store helps a football fan stock up on everything you need for the football weekend at Walmart.
我得说，我期待每周赛前去那里采购，零食、咖啡、馅饼，甚至还有太妃糖队临近终场时需要的抗酸药。
I've got to say I look forward to my weekly haul from there before the games, the snacks, the coffee, the pies, even the antacids for when the toffees approach full time.
无论是从货架上选购，还是通过沃尔玛的快递直接送到家，都能在最大胜利和最惨失利后满足你的需求。
Get it all from the aisles or via Walmart's express delivery directly to your home following the greatest of wins and the worst of losses.
如果你像阿曼达·简和莉莉那样，在世界杯期间深深爱上足球，请把你的故事告诉我们。
If you like Amanda Jane and Lily fell deeply in love with football during the World Cup, Send us your story.
我们很想听听。
We wanna hear it.
我们会把最好的故事在节目里读出来，发到MenInBlazers@Gmail.com就行。
We'll read the best ones out via MenInBlazers@Gmail.com.
每位获奖者都会收到一份特别的定制礼物。
Each winner will be sent a special custom.
我们现在正在制作。
We're making them now.
正在缝制那种双色拼接围巾，庆祝你们之间的缘分。
Sewing them half and half scarf, celebrating your connection to each other.
曼迪·简和莉莉，这对足球来说很美好，对我们MIB来说也很美好。
Mandy Jane and Lily, it's beautiful to the sport and to us at MIB.
谢谢你们。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Thank you.
谢谢。
Thank you.
上帝保佑你，大沃尔玛。
And God bless you, Big Walmart.
接下来我们聊聊最后一件大事。
Moving right along to one last big thing.
带我们收尾吧，各位。
Take us home, gents.
来说说你们这周末关注什么，Raw。
Let's hear the thing you've got your eyes on this weekend, Raw.
所以，我，我搞定了布莱顿。
So I'm I'm done Brighton.
显然，我得提醒自己他们三周前3比0击败了阿森纳，因为我真的忘了这事。
Obviously, I had to remind myself that they beat Arsenal three nil three weeks ago because I'd literally forgotten it happened.
但他们本赛季开局非常出色。
But they've had a brilliant start to the season.
我觉得他们的进攻数据是整个联赛里最好的。
I think they've got the best attacking stats across the league.
我很想看看他们能不能保持下去。
I'm intrigued to see whether they can keep it up.
他们有帕斯卡尔·格罗斯，一个35岁的老将新星。
They have Pastel Gross, a 35 year old Wunderkind.
亚尔库耶表现一直很出色。
Yalcuye has been brilliant.
布莱顿现在是一支值得关注的球队。
They're a team to watch at the moment, Brighton.
桑德兰球迷正在为丹·巴拉德和布莱恩·布罗比的腿筋伤势等待扫描结果。
Sunderland fans holding breath for scans on Dan Ballard and Brian Brobbey's hamstrings.
没有布罗比的桑德兰。
Sunderland without Brobbey.
我不喜欢没有那个漂亮的、漂亮的贝托的埃弗顿，你知道贝托是个纯粹的前锋。
I don't like Everton without beautiful beautiful Beto if you know Beto was an out and out goal scorer.
嗯，那你呢？
Humph, what's yours?
我对水晶宫对阵森林队的比赛挺期待的。
I am quite excited about Palace versus Forest.
这两家俱乐部之间一直有点火药味。
Been a bit of a spicy relationship between these two clubs for one.
自从格拉斯纳来了之后，关系就更紧张了。
It got even spicier when Hare Glasner was...
他转会过去了。
Made the move.
往上走……
Up the m...
好吧，你得走了。
Well, you'd to go.
看看吧。
Let's see.
水晶宫的话，你大概得沿着M25公路往下走。
Crystal Palace, you'd probably go drop down the M 25.
你离开过伦敦吗？
Have you ever left London?
离开过。
Yes.
就是坐直升机去毁掉它。
Just helicoptering to wreck it.
我去过我的乡间庄园，我的各个庄园。
I've been to my my country estates, my various estates.
是M25转M1，汉普。
It's M25M1, Hump.
是M25转M1。
It's M25M1.
好吧。
Alright.
好吧，我到了。
Well, I got there.
如果你到了的话……
If you did...
如果你听我说，罗里，要不是你忙着看手机确认具体路线，我说的是，你大概应该从M25下去，然后上M1。
If you listen to me, Rory, if weren't so busy looking on your phone to check exactly what it was, I said, you probably wanna drop down to the m 25 you got in the m one.
不过，是的，这就是……
But, yes, this is the...
有点像……
It's a bit like...
这已经是个非常刺激的组合了。
This is this is already a deliciously spicy combo.
两支球队本赛季开局都不太顺利，尤其是在国内赛场，而且这……
Neither team has started the season brilliantly, certainly not domestically, and it...
这就有可能会擦出火花。
It's just a potential for fireworks.
我想看到大家在各个时刻互相指指点点。
I wanna see a lot of finger jabbing at various points between people.
天哪。
God.
奥利弗·格拉斯纳。
Oliver Glassner.
我是说，给国家德比加点料，我特别喜欢。
I mean, adding spice to El Casico, which I just adore.
他们这么叫是因为体育仲裁法庭判定水晶宫被淘汰出欧联杯。
That's what they call it because of the court of arbitration of sport who judge Palace were out of the Europa League.
国家德比，真是足球比赛里最技术性正确的法庭缩写之一。
El Casico, just genuinely one of the most technically correct courtroom acronyms for a football game ever.
当然，我关注的是赫尔城对阵埃弗顿。
Of course, my one thing is Hull against Everton.
哦，东部时间早上9点，在孔雀台播出。
Oh, 9AM eastern on Peacock.
我和阿曼达·简，咱们进去吧。
Me and Amanda Jane, get in there.
赫尔城有12名伤员，其中包括，谢天谢地，前埃弗顿球员，阿斯皮尔，蒂米·罗里·史密斯。
Hull have 12 injuries, including, thank God, ex Everton, Aspire, Timmy Rory Smith.
我得说谢天谢地。
I'd say thank God.
我希望……
I hope...
我祝他一切顺利，但如果他上场，他肯定会抓住机会对我们进球。
I wish him well, but he would definitely nail down and scored against us if he played.
我们保持不败。
We are unbeaten.
奇怪的是，各位，我们越是不败，我就越不喜欢看我们比赛，我越是每场比赛都带着一种甜蜜而令人作呕的恐惧。
The odd thing is, guys, the more we remain unbeaten, the less I like watching us, the more I just fear each and every game with a sweet sickening dread.
被老虎队撕咬疼吗？
Does it hurt to be mauled by the Tigers?
我是替朋友问的。
I'm asking for a friend.
我觉得被老虎咬死可能特别有意思。
I think it can be tremendous fun to be mauled by the tigers.
顺便说一句，在所有离开世界的方式里，你不觉得如果能自己选会很棒吗？
By the way, of all the all the ways to go, don't you think it'd be amazing if you could choose?
比如说，对，能不能让老虎把我咬死？
Like, yeah, could you have me mauled by a tiger?
那对我来说大概能排进前三。
That's probably top three for me.
但你得让它一开始就给你来个痛快的。
But you want him to get you real good early on.
你不想让它慢慢来。
You don't want him to work his way up.
你懂我的意思吧？
Do you know what I mean?
你懂吗？
You know?
别磨蹭。
Don't take your time.
尽管来咬我吧，小伙子。
Maul me by all means, lad.
但是夏·汗。
But Shia Khan.
我在想一个有名的老虎。
I'm trying to think of a a famous tiger.
但就从这儿开始。
But start here.
你明白我的意思吗？
You know what I mean?
别弄到...
Not get...
先把这件事解决了，然后再让我去，然后再深入。
Sort this out first and then have me go and then dig in.
告诉我们MenInBlaze@Gmail.com。
Tell usMenInBlaze@Gmail.com.
你宁愿在睡梦中自然离世，还是宁愿被老虎咬死？
Would you rather go naturally in your sleep or would you rather be mauled by the tiger?
我不知道。
I don't know.
人们真的很喜欢被海鸥啄。
People really like to be pecked by the seagulls.
我有很多选择。
I have all the choices.
当然，是老虎。
And it is the tigers, of course.
就是……
It is...
更像是……
It's more...
你更靠近……
You're more by the...
所以有好几只老虎。
So there's multiple tigers.
我觉得……
I think...
所以你肯定相信它们会很快搞定。
So you gotta believe they'll get the job done quick.
就像你会求它，说，快点带我走吧，兰斯。
Just like you'd greelish it and just say, take me quickly, Lance.
这是我们本周末的十个预测。
It is 10 of our predictions for the weekend ahead.
你可能还记得，有一场比赛是对我们预测排行榜的更新。
You may recall a game is a fort with updates to our predictions league table.
在上一轮英超比赛中，罗里居然精准预测了比分。
In the last round of Premier League action, Rory incredibly nailed the exact scoreline.
而且不止一场，是两场。史密斯先生现在以19分遥遥领先，而我只有可怜的16分，汉弗斯则以12分垫底，但他依然乐在其中。
No fewer than two games, and mister Smith is now in a commanding first place, 19 points to my own paltry 16, and bringing up the rear admirably as he loves Humph with 12.
汉弗，我们要让罗里领先多少分，才会开始说他的优势是假的？
Humph, how many points lead are we gonna allow Rory before we start calling his advantage a sham?
我
I
觉得，是的，我们确实需要开始调查，比如，启动一个漫长的法律程序，好好拖一拖……
think, yeah, we do need to start investigating, Like, just start a long protracted legal process to really drag...
让这件事变得痛苦不堪。
To make this a miserable experience.
你们这些人，别碰我的机密邮件。
You people, stay out of my incriminating emails.
非常感谢。
Thank you very much.
受害者，我想怎么做就怎么做，罗里·史密斯说。
Victim, I can do what I want, says Rory Smith.
我们问过你们，赛季结束时冠军应该得到什么奖品。
We asked you what the prize should be for the winner at the end of the season.
你们很多人建议同一个东西：一只浣熊标本，就像厄尔从得克萨斯回到合法州时胳膊下夹着的那只一样。
So many of you suggested the same thing, a stuffed raccoon, like the one tucked under Earl in Holland's arm when he returned from Texas to legit.
我们回到达拉斯的野比尔店，想买那只一模一样的，用来当奖杯。
We went back to Wild Bills in Dallas to ask for that exact one so we could use it as a trophy.
难以置信，听我说完。
Unbelievably, stay with me here.
他们卖光了。
They've sold out.
做标本的那个人已经退休了。
The one that does the taxidermy has retired.
这退休时机也太巧了吧。
What a crazy time to retire.
各位，店里剩下的唯一一只，就是这个。
The only one they have left in store, gents, is this.
我……
I...
我没在编故事。
I'm not making this up.
看好了，这就是野比尔店的‘旅行松鼠’。
Behold, Wild Bills tripper squirrel.
我把它买下来了。
I bought this.
这花了我450美元。
This cost me $450.
哦，不。
Oh, no.
我跟你说，现在这个阶段，我对自己拿第三名反而觉得挺得意的。
I tell you what, I'm actually feeling mustard about my third place finish at this stage.
我……我……
I I...
因为那……
Because that's...
我不想把它放在家里，但我也……
I don't want that in my house, but I also...
你不能毁掉那样一件美好的东西。
You can't destroy a thing of beauty like that.
把它围上战锤模型。
Surround it with Warhammer.
让它为战锤爱好者们跳舞。
Make it dance for the Warhammer people.
哦，对。
Oh, yeah.
也许我可以把它融入进去。
Maybe I could incorporate it into it.
把它退给狂野比尔，先生。
Take it back to Wild Bill, sir.
斯克里普斯的松鼠没在跳舞。
The Scripps squirrel is not dancing.
我要退钱。
I want my money back.
它死了。
It's dead.
450美元。
$450.
就说我在说，脱衣舞松鼠比汽油还贵。
Just say I'm saying stripper squirrels are more expensive than gas.
严肃问题，快问。
Serious question, quickly.
你觉得狂野比尔知道这只松鼠生前是脱衣舞娘，所以才选了这么个姿势吗？
Do you think Wild Bill knows this squirrel was a stripper in its life, and that's why he chose this pose?
还是说这只松鼠永远被困在这个姿势里，违背了它自己的意愿？
Or is this squirrel forever trapped in this pose against its values?
这是个很棒的哲学问题。
That's a great philosophical question.
我觉得野比尔是根据动物的性格来给它们摆姿势的。
I I would imagine that Wild Bill stuffs the animals in a pose that he's discerned from their personalities.
是它们自己选的，是松鼠自己的意愿。
Of their choosing from their squirrel will.
我想他对他那片区域的所有小动物都很熟悉，原因有很多。
I I presume he's very familiar with all the small animals of his area for a variety of reasons.
所以，他能推断出它们生前是什么样子，死后又会是什么样子。
And therefore, he's able to to extrapolate what they were like and what they would be like in death.
罗格，等等。
Rog, hang on.
那个标本师已经退休了。
The taxidermist has retired.
对。
Yes.
所以他们不能再做标本了，任何
So they can't taxidermy any any
更多的东西？
more stuff?
真的是最后一个了。
Legit the last one.
我的意思是，剩下的只有野比尔的不良松鼠系列了。
I mean, the only things left are from Wild Bill's vice squirrel series.
GTA的GTA松鼠。
GTA's GTA squirrel.
那个……
The...
那这是不是让厄林的回报投资更有价值了？
Does that make Erling's investment in the return more valuable?
这难道不是世界杯赛场上一个挺不错的小片段吗？
Was it not only kind of a good little bit of World Cup pitch?
这其实是不是一笔挺明智的投资？
Was it actually quite a wise investment?
这个我们留到今天的另一个播客节目里再聊，那个节目我们紧接着就会录。
We'll save that for our other podcast taxidermy today, which we're gonna take right after this one.
顺便说一下，这周末我们在Peacock上的最新一期《Men In Blazers》节目是切尔西特辑，我们和非常欢乐的乔·佩德罗聊了聊，他真是个与众不同的人。
By the way, then our newest episode of the Men In Blazers show on Peacock this weekend is a Chelsea special conversations with incredibly joyous Joe Pedro, a man like no other.
是的。
Yes.
还有强大的科尔·帕尔默，一位新的领袖传奇，以及加比·阿隆索。
The mighty Cole Palmer, a new leader legend, Gabby Alonso.
这真是一个让人感到生活美好的节目。
It's really quite a life affirming show.
本周日首播。
Debuts this Sunday.
我们下周再见，继续带来新一期节目。
We'll be back next week for another episode.
汉弗莱，见到你真好，你这个大好人。
Humphrey, it's so good to see you, you beautiful human being.
罗里，我的兄弟们，朋友们。
Rory, my boys, friends.
好好享受足球吧。
Enjoy the football.
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