Morbid - 沃茨家族谋杀案(第一部分) 封面

沃茨家族谋杀案(第一部分)

The Watts Family Murders (Part 1)

本集简介

2018年8月13日,34岁的莎南·沃茨错过了一次医生预约,她的朋友们向科罗拉多州弗雷德里克警方报告她失踪。警方搜查房屋时,发现莎南的车停在车库里,她的物品——包括钱包、手机和药物——散落在房子各处,但莎南和这对夫妇的两个孩子却毫无踪迹。 第二天,联邦调查局对莎南、贝拉和塞莱斯特的失踪案展开调查,克里斯则登上当地电视台,接受了有史以来最臭名昭著且最可疑的采访之一。他请求任何掌握他们下落信息的人前来提供线索。然而就在第二天,克里斯在测谎测试中失败,最终承认谋杀了妻子,但他最初否认杀害了他们的孩子。 本集提及内容 在我们的Sirius和Podswag商店购买MORBID周边商品,享受25%折扣!促销活动截止至5月11日! 6月27日购买我们在无线电城音乐厅的现场演出门票!我们有惊人的嘉宾和超酷周边! 想要一本亲笔签名的《屠夫遗产》?点击此处从Premiere Collectibles订购! 克里斯·沃茨发现文件 肢体语言分析视频 参考资料 Baker, KC. 2018. 孕妇与两名幼女失踪,当局称可能面临危险。8月15日。访问于2026年4月15日。https://people.com/crime/colorado-pregnant-mom-daughters-vanish-medication-left/。 Glatt, John. 2020. 《完美的父亲:克里斯·沃茨、他的全美家庭与一场震惊谋杀的真实故事》。纽约:圣马丁出版社。 Helling, Steve. 2018. 孕妇失踪,丈夫求助——随后三具尸体被发现:沃茨一家谋杀案始末。9月18日。访问于2026年4月15日。https://people.com/crime/shanann-chris-watts-family-murder-timeline/。 McDonnell-Parry, Amelia. 2018. “科罗拉多男子称在妻子勒死女儿后将其杀害。”《滚石》,8月20日。 Swanson, Sady, 和 Nick Coltrain. 2018. “克里斯托弗·沃茨因谋杀怀孕妻子及两名女儿被判三个终身监禁。”《科罗拉多州福尔柯森报》,11月20日:1。 克里斯·沃茨发现文件 由Alaina Urquhart、Ash Kelley与Dave White联合撰写(自2022年10月起) 制作与剪辑:Mikie Sirois(自2023年起) 研究:Dave White(自2022年10月起)、Alaina Urquhart与Ash Kelley 听众来信与协作:Debra Lally 听众故事视频剪辑:Aidan McElman(自2025年6月起) 由Simplecast(AdsWizz公司)托管。有关我们为广告目的收集和使用个人信息的详情,请参阅pcm.adswizz.com。

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Speaker 0

嘿,怪人们。

Hey, weirdos.

Speaker 0

我是阿什。

I'm Ash.

Speaker 1

我是艾琳娜。

And I'm Alaina.

Speaker 0

这是莫布里德。

And this is Morbid.

Speaker 1

今天确实挺阴森的。

This is indeed very morbid today.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

艾琳娜已经花了整整六个小时翻阅调查文件了。

Alaina has been sifting through discovery documents for the last six hours.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我昨晚也通宵干了。

I did it all night last night too.

Speaker 1

结果还做了些怪梦。

And I had weird dreams because of it.

Speaker 0

我根本没看那些取证文件。

I didn't even sift through discovery documents.

Speaker 0

我就知道

I just knew that

Speaker 1

我们在处理这个案子。

we were doing this case.

Speaker 1

所以我就

So I

Speaker 0

一直在旁边看着,毕竟这可是

was kinda like watching on obviously, you know, this is the

Speaker 1

你点开了克里斯·沃茨的案子,所以才看到这个。

Chris Watts case because you've clicked on it.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

克里斯·沃茨案子的第一部分。

Part one of the Chris Watts case.

Speaker 0

第一部分。

Part one.

Speaker 0

我们看了些跟这个案子相关的超自然内容。

We watched some of the paranormal stuff that goes along with this case.

Speaker 0

对。

Yes.

Speaker 0

那段视频里有一件事,我昨晚一直放不下。

And there was one thing in that video that I couldn't stop thinking about last night.

Speaker 0

我昨晚一整晚醒了好多次。

I woke up, like, multiple times throughout the night last night.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

你看吧。

See.

Speaker 1

我其实已经大概翻过一遍了。

And I've been I've so we I went through it a little bit.

Speaker 1

关于案件中那些超自然的部分,我们留到第二部分再聊,因为确实有些诡异的地方。

We'll talk about it in part two, the paranormal aspects of it because there is some strange ones.

Speaker 1

但我更关注的是他认罪之前的一些访谈内容。

But I was, like, more going into, like, the the interviews, like, before he admitted to what he did.

Speaker 1

那些东西真能把你搞崩溃。

And that shit'll fuck you up.

Speaker 0

哦,没错。

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1

还有那些调查文件,我们会在节目笔记里附上链接,你们都可以去看看。

And just looking at those discovery documents, which we'll link in the show notes, you can all look at them.

Speaker 1

你们可以看遍他和珊南之间,还有他和情妇妮可之间发送的每一条短信。

You can all look at every goddamn text that was sent between him and Shanann, between him and his mistress Nicole.

Speaker 1

我的意思是,

I mean, it's

Speaker 0

有很多内容值得一看。

There's a lot to be seen.

Speaker 1

不仅内容丰富,而且他完全缺乏人性,看得人真的很心寒。

There's a lot to be seen and a lot of just complete lack of humanity on his part, which is really upsetting to see.

Speaker 1

我以前一直发誓不碰这个案子,因为细节实在太令人难过了。

I always swore I wasn't gonna do this case because the details are very upsetting.

Speaker 1

但我知道你们非常想听这个案子。

But I know you guys really want this case.

Speaker 1

这是你们点播最多的一个案子。

This is one of our most highly requested cases.

Speaker 1

我也知道,你们是希望我讲的,对吧?

And I'm you know?

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我这么做是为了你们。

I'm doing this for you.

Speaker 1

我也知道,这个案子迟早会把我拖垮。

I also knew this was going to be one of those cases that just ate me up.

Speaker 1

让我停不下来。

Like that I could not stop

Speaker 0

对。

Mhmm.

Speaker 1

越陷越深,结果真的就是这样。

Getting deeper and deeper into, and that has happened.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

所以我期待着能早点抽身。

So I'm gonna look forward to disconnect.

Speaker 1

这个案子对我来说就像摩尔家族谋杀案一样,我真盼着早点结束,好跟它说再见。

This is like the Moores murders case for me where it's like I'm really looking forward to the end of it where I can say, bye.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

天哪,真是让人受不了。

Because, oh my goodness.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

不过没错,今天我们就来聊这个。

But yeah, so that's what we'll be doing today.

Speaker 1

但在那之前,还没买六月现场演出票的朋友注意了,6月27号,纽约市,蜂蜜。

But before we get to that, before we get to all the horror and terrible shit, if you haven't gotten your tickets to the live show in June, June 27, New York City Honey.

Speaker 1

无线电城音乐厅。

Radio City Music Hall.

Speaker 0

我们会去的。

We're gonna be there.

Speaker 1

这场会特别盛大。

It's gonna be big.

Speaker 1

规模会非常大。

It's gonna be huge.

Speaker 1

剩下的票已经不多了。

And there's only so many tickets left.

Speaker 1

我们马上就要到终点了。

We're getting to that end point.

Speaker 1

我希望你们都能来,好好玩一场,因为只此一夜。

I want you guys to come and have fun because it's one night only.

Speaker 1

我们已经想好了个很酷的主题。

We got a cool theme in mind.

Speaker 1

我们有超棒的周边商品。

We have cool fucking merch.

Speaker 0

我们刚开完一场关于周边的会。

We just had a whole meeting about the merch.

Speaker 1

确实如此。

It is.

Speaker 1

简直太棒了。

It's fucking killer.

Speaker 1

这些周边一定会超赞。

This merch is gonna be killer.

Speaker 1

真的吗?

Really.

Speaker 1

而且只在演出现场才有。

And it's only gonna be at the show.

Speaker 0

只在演出现场。

Only at the show.

Speaker 1

一定要买好票。

Can only get Make sure you get your tickets.

Speaker 1

肯定会特别好玩。

It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1

我向你保证。

I promise you.

Speaker 1

我们

We're

Speaker 0

哦,我们还请了一位超棒的嘉宾。

Oh, we also booked a sick guest.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我们请了一位特别嘉宾。

We got a special guest.

Speaker 1

有一位特别嘉宾会

Have a special guest that's

Speaker 0

让你大吃一惊。

gonna blow your goddamn socks off.

Speaker 1

真的。

It's true.

Speaker 1

这肯定会特别精彩。

So it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1

赶紧去下单吧。

Do it.

Speaker 1

如果你还没预购《屠夫传奇》,你还在等什么?

And if you haven't pre ordered The Butcher Legacy yet, what are you doing?

Speaker 0

亲爱的。

Honey.

Speaker 0

哦,如果你想找更多签名版的话。

Oh, and if you're looking for more signed copies.

Speaker 1

哦,其实还有不少,只是没几个人知道。

Oh, There's still more Few people are.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我知道你们一直在找,我也跟你们说了,只要我手还撑得住,就会一直签下去。

Because I know you guys were looking for them and I told you I'll keep signing them as long as my hand works.

Speaker 1

已经开始了。

It's on.

Speaker 1

只要我的手还听使唤,我就会继续为你签名。

So as long as my hand is on my body, I'll keep signing them for you Mhmm.

Speaker 1

只要你还需要。

As long as you want them.

Speaker 1

你可以在Premiere Collectibles买到。

And so you can get them at Premiere Collectibles.

Speaker 1

那里有一些签过名的,我向你保证,我就在这里亲手签。

There's some signed ones, and I promise you, I'm signing them right here.

Speaker 1

没错。

Yes.

Speaker 1

每一本我都会亲眼盯着签。

I watch With my hand each one.

Speaker 1

所以

So

Speaker 0

我老是说,太厉害了。

that's I always say, wow.

Speaker 0

这真是

That's a

Speaker 1

签了这么多啊。

lot of signing going on.

Speaker 1

我老是说,太厉害了。

I always say, wow.

Speaker 0

我老是说,太厉害了,亲爱的。

I always say, wow, honey.

Speaker 1

不过得说清楚,我知道有些人会想,你真的一个个亲手签吗?

But just to be clear, because I know some people are like, aren't do you really sign them?

Speaker 1

是不是批量生产的?

Are they much produced?

Speaker 1

不是。

No.

Speaker 1

他们会的。

They do.

Speaker 1

我的签名绝不会大规模量产。

There will never be a mass produced signature of mine.

Speaker 1

所以

So

Speaker 0

别担心,你还是能分辨出来的,当然。

worry about feel be able to tell but Yeah.

Speaker 1

那太离谱了。

That'd insane.

Speaker 1

但确实如此。

But yeah.

Speaker 1

总之,好好享受吧,如果感兴趣就提前预订吧,你应该这么做。

Anyway, Enjoy that and preorder it if you want and you should.

Speaker 1

这很有趣。

It's fun.

Speaker 1

现在我们来谈这个话题。

And now we're gonna get into this.

Speaker 1

我尽量别太激动。

I'm gonna I'm gonna try not to get too worked up here.

Speaker 1

祝你好运了。

Good luck with that.

Speaker 1

昨天我特别激动,跟房间里所有人都聊了这事。

Yesterday I was so worked up and I was just talking to everybody in the room about it.

Speaker 1

我会觉得

I'm gonna feel

Speaker 0

很激动,因为我对这个案子的来龙去脉都挺上心的。

worked up because I felt worked up about I don't know, like, all of the ins and outs of this case.

Speaker 1

我之前一直躲着没碰,因为你可能也不想知道。

I avoided it a lot because You probably don't want it.

Speaker 1

很明显,这事牵扯到孩子。

Obviously, children are involved.

Speaker 1

所以我特别讨厌这样。

So I hate that.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

但确实如此。

But Yeah.

Speaker 1

我会和你一样感到愤怒。

I'll get outraged right along with you.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

所有内容都在那份取证文件里,你可以随便翻一翻。

And everything is gonna be I mean, everything's right in that discovery document that's available for you to take a peek through.

Speaker 1

文件很长,这点很明显,但该有的全在里面。

It's very long, obviously, but it's all there.

Speaker 1

没错。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

这些都是官方的材料。

So this is all the official shit.

Speaker 1

我们先来说说克里斯·沃茨这个人吧,可惜得很。

Now, let's start with who Chris Watts is, unfortunately.

Speaker 1

非得讲吗?

Do we have to?

Speaker 1

我觉得得讲,因为你得知道他是谁。

I think we have because you gotta know who

Speaker 0

这个混蛋是谁。

this fucker is.

Speaker 1

你得知道这个畜生是谁。

You gotta know who this piece of shit is.

Speaker 1

他出生于1985年5月16日。

So he was born 05/16/1985.

Speaker 1

真讨厌,他居然和我同年出生。

Hate that he was born in the same year as me.

Speaker 1

我知道。

I know.

Speaker 1

他还是个游客。

A tourist too.

Speaker 0

我通常挺喜欢游客的。

I usually love a tourist.

Speaker 1

这个不行。

Not this one.

Speaker 1

不行。

No.

Speaker 1

这个不行。

Not this one.

Speaker 1

他出生在北卡罗来纳州的费耶特维尔。

He was born in Fayetteville, North Carolina.

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他是家里的第二个孩子,父母是罗尼和辛迪·沃茨,我对他们有太多情绪,但我不打算全说出来。

He was the second to two children, born to Ronnie and Cindy Watts, who I have so many feelings about, but I'm not going to spill all of them.

Speaker 1

小声点。

Keep it quiet.

Speaker 0

但你一定能感觉到,你会的。

But you you can feel some You will.

Speaker 1

这不过是感觉而已,你知道的。

That's just feelings, you know?

Speaker 1

就是一种感觉。

Just a feeling.

Speaker 1

他小时候和爸爸特别亲。

Growing up, he was very close to his dad.

Speaker 1

他们俩都喜欢运动和汽车,就是那种男人之间的共同爱好。

They had they shared a love of sports and cars, like, you know, that kind of thing.

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男人之间的那点事。

Dude stuff.

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就是典型的哥们儿。

Very just Dude bros.

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运动和汽车。

Sports and cars.

Speaker 1

就还行吧。

It's just alright.

Speaker 1

但克里斯和他父亲的关系,可不只是建立在这些共同爱好上。

But Chris' relationship with his father was built on more than just these shared interests.

Speaker 1

他们的性格非常相似。

They had very similar personalities.

Speaker 1

你到现在都能看出来,他们确实有点像——当然不是那种凶残的性格,别误会。

And you can see even now that they still, like, not the murderous personality, obviously.

Speaker 1

但总的来说,他是个特别安静、内敛的人。

But I mean, like, he's a very quiet, like subdued guy for the most part.

Speaker 1

他爸爸也有点儿那种气质。

And his dad seems a little bit like that as well.

Speaker 1

所以周围人都说,克里斯觉得父亲懂他,因为他们俩本质上是一类人。

So I think what everybody said around them was that Chris felt like he was understood by his dad because they were kind of the same.

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他是个普通的學生。

He was like an average student.

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他運動挺不錯的。

He was a good athlete.

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我真討厭他。

I fucking hate him.

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是啊。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

他沒做過什麼特別的事。

He he didn't do anything remarkable.

Speaker 1

我也不覺得有什麼特別的。

Like I wouldn't think so.

Speaker 1

沒什麼值得誇耀的。

Nothing to write home about.

Speaker 1

他特別內向,從來不顯山露水,就這麼默默無聞地過日子,因為他就是個廢物。

He was super shy, so he didn't really like stand out in any way, and he just kinda flew under the radar because he was a fucking loser.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

但我得好好说说他。

But I'm gonna be so mean about him.

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我就是想让你去告诉他。

I just need you to tell him that.

Speaker 1

如果你是那种会给他写信、在监狱里探视他的女生,或者

If you are one of those girls who like writes to him in prison or

Speaker 0

你得把这个关掉

You're gonna wanna turn

Speaker 1

关掉它

this off.

Speaker 1

你得关掉它,然后去找真正专业的帮助

You're gonna wanna turn this off and you're gonna wanna go seek some real help.

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因为读了越来越多关于他的资料后,我觉得他是我做研究以来见过最烂的人之一

Because this man, after reading more and more about him, I think is one of the biggest pieces of shit I have ever come across in my entire existence of research.

Speaker 0

如果你能杀死自己三个孩子,其中一个还是未出生的,连怀着孩子的妻子也一起害死,那你身上根本找不到一丝善意,你整个人就是彻底的恶。

If you can kill your own three children, one of which was unborn and your own wife while pregnant with one of those children, there's not a good bone in your there's nothing good about you.

Speaker 0

没错。

No.

Speaker 0

从来就没有过。

And there never was.

Speaker 1

这件事的细节简直超出了人类的想象。

And the details of it all are just beyond human comprehension.

Speaker 1

他对此事的反应,应该让你从心底感到毛骨悚然。

And how he reacted to all this should horrify you to your very fucking core.

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真的应该如此。

It really should.

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是的。

Yeah.

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但上了高中之后,他就变得非常孤僻了。

But when he got to high school, he had become pretty withdrawn.

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就是一直特别安静、不爱说话。

Like, was always very quiet and withdrawn.

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并不是有什么具体事件被记录下来,导致他变成这样。

And it wasn't like there something happened that is on record that made this happen.

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他一直都是这样。

He just was always like that.

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这挺奇怪的。

That's weird.

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他当 teenager 的时候就有点冷漠。

And he was kind of aloof as a teenager.

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他成年后也还是这样冷漠。

He was kind of aloof as an adult too.

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他对什么都不在乎。

He didn't give a fuck about anything.

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对。

Mhmm.

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从他家人所谓失踪时的采访中就能看出来。

As evidenced by his interview when his family was quote unquote missing.

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别担心,我们待会儿会说到这个。

And don't worry, we'll get into that.

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他妹妹杰米说,他从不跟朋友出去玩。

His sister Jamie said he didn't go out with friends.

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我比较爱社交,而他则安静,对机械和汽车特别感兴趣。

I was more of a social butterfly and he was quiet and interested in mechanics and cars.

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他就是个特别专注的人。

He was just a focused person.

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我觉得这说明,他本质上就是个早晚要出事的混蛋。

And I think that just means, like, he was piece of shit in the making.

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是的。

Yeah.

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没错。

Absolutely.

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直到他报了汽车技术课,才慢慢找到了一点自信。

It wasn't until he enrolled in an automotive technology class that he started to find, like, some kind of confidence.

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他对汽车的热爱和对纳斯卡的深入了解,让老师乔·达蒂——拼写是D-U-T-E-Y——很欣赏。

His love of cars and his deep knowledge of NASCAR impressed the teacher of the class, Joe Dutty, who and it's d u t e y.

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明白了。

Okay.

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别光顾着笑啊。

So to stifle all of your giggles.

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于是老师就把克里斯带在身边,慢慢成了他的导师。

He took Chris under his wing and kinda became like a mentor to him.

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老师说,很难找到比他更合适的孩子了。

The teacher said it's hard to find a more perfect kid.

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我觉得未必。

I'd argue it's not.

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这事儿其实特别简单。

It'd be super easy.

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我觉得说的就是我。

Think that's that's me.

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但他提到,我是他教过的学生里前10%的那类人。

But he said he was in the top 10% of students I ever had.

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他说的是在汽车技术课上,不是在整个学校里。

And that was in the automotive technology class, not in the school.

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明白。

Okay.

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我可不想给他过多的夸奖。

Don't wanna give him any undue accolades here.

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别这样,真的别这样。

Don't don't be doing that.

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还有,杜蒂老师说,他看得出来克里斯在社交上很吃力,那时候朋友特别少。

Also, this the teacher, mister Doody, said, he could see that Chris struggled socially, and he had very few friends at the time.

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这种状况一直持续了他很久。

That kind of remained something through his life.

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如你所见,没几个人愿意为沃茨先生挺身而出,真不错。

As you'll see, not too many people were willing to go to bat for, mister Watts here Good.

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他这一生都是这样。

Throughout his life.

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所以我觉得,爸妈才是他最坚定的支持者。

So I think, mom and dad were really his, like, number one people who were gonna go bat for him.

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很好。

Great.

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老师多次说过,我看着他时总会想,他脑子里到底在想什么?

So the teacher said many times I would look at him and think, what's going on in his head?

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哦。

Oh.

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他就像脑子里转个不停,却一个人孤零零的。

It was like the wheels were spinning, but he was by himself.

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这问题可不简单。

That's a loaded question.

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我当时就说:哎呀。

And I said, whew.

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你真不想知道他脑子里在想什么。

You don't wanna know what's going on in his head.

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是的。

Yeah.

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我很好奇,那时候他脑子里到底在想些什么。

I wonder what was going on in his head even back then.

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大概什么都没想。

Probably a whole lot of nothing.

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对。

Yeah.

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说实话,他就是那种人。

Honestly, I he seems like one of those dudes.

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你要是看过他的任何采访,就会发现,他就像那种——你冲他耳朵吹口气,气都能从另一头出去的人。

If you watch any interview with him, he's like one of those guys that if like if you like blew wind through his ear, it would like come out the other side.

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就是随随便便的。

Like, just freely.

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他根本就心不在焉。

Like, he just nothing Lights are out of it.

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脑子里空空如也。

No one's home.

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对。

Yeah.

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就是没什么动静。

Like, just not a lot going on.

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高中毕业后,他对汽车的热爱让他报名了位于北卡罗来纳州穆尔斯维尔的NASCAR技术学院。

Now after graduating from high school, his passion for cars led him to enroll at the NASCAR Technical Institute in Mooresville, Carolina.

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这是一个由NASCAR赞助的项目,专门培养赛车和汽车维修方面的技能。

It was a NASCAR sponsored program that specialized in motor sports and, like, automotive training.

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车子。

Cars.

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就是车。

Just cars.

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他还找了一份兼职,在汽车经销商那里工作。

He also found a part time job look working at a car dealership.

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车。

Cars.

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因为喜欢车。

Because cars.

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当他不在上课或上班的时候,就利用空闲时间研究汽车。

And when he wasn't in class or at work, he was using his free time to study cars.

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车。

Cars.

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所以你

So You

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你得做,你得搞车。

have to do You have to Cars.

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车。

Cars.

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你得说。

You have to

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就像安迪·贝尔弗尔那样说,出自

say it like Andy Belflur from

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《真爱如血》。

True True Blood.

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我不确定你有没有注意到这一点。

I don't know if you're picking up on something here.

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他心里只想着车。

All he cared about was cars.

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他所有的一切都围绕着车。

That's all That's he all he had.

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他有三辆车。

He had three looks.

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是的

Yeah.

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就这么简单。

And that's it.

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汽车。

Cars.

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汽车。

Cars.

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汽车。

Cars.

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纳斯卡、赛车学校和一家经销商。

NASCAR, Car school and a dealership.

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就是这样。

That's it.

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真是个废物。

Fucking loser.

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他以前的室友理查德·霍奇斯说,他特别专注修车,根本不是那种爱出去玩乐的人,因为他整天都泡在车里。

His former roommate, Richard Hodges, said he was very dedicated to his work on cars and wasn't the kind of guy that went out and partied because he was too busy with cars.

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车子。

Cars.

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但他最终完成了NASCAR的培训,随后找了一份全职汽修工作。

But he eventually finished the NASCAR program and started a full time job as a mechanic.

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这跟当初他想象中那种充满激情的NASCAR职业生涯完全不一样。

It wasn't exactly the exciting career in NASCAR that he thought he was gonna be going forth with.

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他能力一般,所以……

Well, he's mediocre, so

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但他挣得还不错。

But he made decent money.

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他挺喜欢这份工作的,因为他真的爱车。

He enjoyed the work, because he loves a car.

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所以他从不抱怨,只是觉得总有一天会升上去——这本来就是对待这类工作的正确态度。

So he didn't complain and he just kinda like thought he would move up someday, which is how you should go into something like that.

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你得从最底层做起。

You start at the bottom.

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对。

Yeah.

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一步步往上走。

You work your way up.

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差不多在同一时期,他出人意料地开始了第一段恋爱关系。

Around the same time, he surprised everyone by starting his first romantic relationship.

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和车?

With a car?

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我也觉得是这样。

I would have thought so.

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和车?

With a car?

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但并没有,就连车都对他摆手,说:不了,谢谢。

But no, unfortunately, even the cars were like, no, thank you, sir.

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但他就是这样,特别古怪。

But he's so This is how weird he was.

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所有人都愣住了:什么?

That everybody was like, wait, what?

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据大家说,不过我本人没在现场。

By all accounts, like, again, I wasn't there.

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我根本不认识这个人。

I don't know this man.

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可据所有人说,他当时特别拘谨,有点冷淡,害羞又封闭。

But by all accounts, this is how like off put, like a little aloof and just like, shy and not and like withdrawn he was.

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大家都问:你跟个女生约会?

That everyone was like, you're going out with a girl?

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啥?

Like what?

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跟个活人?

Another human?

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你确定吗?

Are you sure?

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跟一个普通人约会,你还真打算和她出去?

Like another human and you are gonna hang out?

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他当时就是这么不合群。

Like that's how off he was.

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这也太惨了。

That's bleak.

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不过他确实开始了人生第一段恋爱关系。

But yeah, he started his first romantic relationship.

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克里斯交往的那位女士刚结束一段糟糕的婚姻。

And the woman Chris was dating had just come out of a bad marriage.

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他从来没带她去见家人、同事或朋友。

And he never brought her around to meet his family or his coworkers or friends.

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所以她确实是存在的?

So she existed though?

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我想她是真实存在的吧。

I guess she existed.

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克里斯后来说,我当时只是帮她度过离婚的难关,结果她却跟别人走了。

Chris later said, I was helping her to get through her divorce and then she went off with someone else.

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哦。

Oh.

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我说,这倒说得通。

And I said, that checks.

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明白了。

Okay.

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另外,我现在想提一下。

Also, I'd like to point out right now.

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你知道离婚是什么意思吧?

So you do know what divorce is?

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知道。

Yep.

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你明明知道克里斯·沃茨的事,那你怎么就不直接跟你老婆离婚呢?

So you you have seen the Because basis of Chris Watts, why the fuck didn't you just divorce your wife?

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我这辈子都搞不懂这一点。

I will never understand this as long as I live.

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有太多这样的情况了

There's so many

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你明明知道离婚是怎么回事。

You did know what a divorce was.

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有太多例子让人想问,你干嘛不干脆分开、离了算了?

There's so many cases where it's like, why did you not just separate and divorce?

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确实如此。

Truly.

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真的。

Truly.

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当然,我知道这事儿没那么简单。

Obviously, it's like, I know it's complicated.

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我知道。

I know.

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我知道有钱的问题。

I know there's money.

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不用解释,我清楚离婚是怎么回事。

Don't need to explain We it to know what I'm divorce

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我是离婚家庭长大的。

a child of divorce.

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我明白。

I get it.

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这种滋味要持续整整十八年,真够惨的。

It sucks for like eighteen whole years.

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但比起杀了怀孕的妻子和两个孩子,离婚可好多了。

But it's a hell of a lot better than murdering your pregnant wife and your two children,

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我也是这么想的。

I would say.

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是的

Yep.

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我知道这很难。

I know it's tough.

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我会坚持下去,但是

I will stand But

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也没那么难。

it's not that tough.

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我会坚定地站稳脚跟。

Will stand 12 toes down

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从这一点来说。

from Yeah.

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总比杀人强。

That it's better than murder.

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总比灭门惨案强。

It's better than family annihilation.

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是的。

Yep.

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我觉得如果你连这个都不同意,那就有问题了。

And I think if you can't agree on that, it's a problem.

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是的。

Yep.

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在他没能得到理想的工作,加上第一段认真感情以混乱的方式结束之后,他感到很沮丧,根本不想再约会了。他觉得:我都陪她熬过了离婚,结果她却跟别人走了。

But between his failure to land the job of his dreams and the messy end to his first real relationship, he was feeling discouraged and he wasn't really like psyched to go date again because he was like, I got her through this divorce, and then she just kinda went off with someone else.

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她不是一辆车。

And she's not a car.

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她不是一辆车。

She's not a car.

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但他的表妹辛迪——不是他妈妈那个辛迪——成功劝克里斯给一位女同事发了好友请求,这位女同事叫珊南。

But his cousin Cindy, not to be confused with his mama Cindy, was able to convince Chris to send a Facebook friend request to one of his her coworkers, named Shanann.

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她的姓氏,我记得应该是祖彻。

And her maiden name, I believe it's pronounced ZUTCHER.

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好的。

Okay.

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我查过很多次了。

I looked it up many, many times.

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但接下来的大部分故事里,她都叫莎南·沃茨。

But obviously, for the rest, most of the story, she go unfortunately goes by Shanann Watts.

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好的。

Okay.

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和克里斯一样,莎南也刚结束一段糟糕的恋情,辛迪觉得他们俩可能挺合得来。

Like Chris, Shanann was also just coming off of a bad breakup, and Cindy thought the two of them might hit it off.

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他们在这方面挺像的。

They have something in common there.

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是的。

Yeah.

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现在回头看,她觉得他们能合得来其实有点奇怪,因为两人明显是完全不一样的类型。

In retrospect, it is a little weird that she thought that they were gonna get along because they were kind of like very obvious opposites.

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好吧。

Okay.

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显然这种情况是可能的。

And obviously that can work.

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对。

Yeah.

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所以也许她就是这么想的。

So maybe that's what she was thinking.

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有可能。

Maybe.

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克里斯一向安静、内向、拘谨,我们之前也说过。

Chris was very quiet, shy, reserved, withdrawn, like we've said.

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珊南则很随和。

Shanann was friendly.

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她特别外向。

She was gregarious.

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她性格外向。

She was outgoing.

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她简直就是个充满活力的人。

Like, she was just she was pizzazz.

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你懂的。

You know?

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对。

Yeah.

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珊南在新泽西长大,但九十年代末她父亲失业后,就搬到了北卡罗来纳。

Shanann had grown up in New Jersey, but moved to North Carolina, in the late nineteen nineties when her father was out of work.

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我特别喜欢新泽西女孩。

Love one thing I love is a Jersey girl.

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新泽西的跨性别者。

A Jersey trans person.

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我特别喜欢新泽西女孩。

Love a Jersey girl.

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是的

Yeah.

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我们特别喜欢

We love it.

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这次搬家让珊南换了新学校,她开始就读派恩克雷斯特高中

And the move meant a new school for Shanann, and she started attending Pinecrest High School.

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这是一所注重艺术教育的开放型学校

This was a progressive school with a focus on the arts.

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明白了

Okay.

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不错

Cool.

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在这样支持性强、合作氛围浓的环境里,她逐渐成长起来,找到了真正的自己

In that supportive and collaborative environment, she kind of thrived and really came into her own.

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她结交了一大群朋友

She developed a large circle of friends.

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她在社交方面表现得非常出色。

She excelled socially.

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她在学业上也表现得非常出色。

She excelled academically.

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和克里斯不一样,他简直就是个无足轻重的人,没人会记得他。

Unlike Chris, who was just a literal nothing and no one would probably remember him

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没错。

Yep.

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珊农简直太棒了。

Shanann was like just killing it.

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她过得特别好。

She was thriving.

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真好。

Love that.

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她一直保持着紧密的女性朋友圈,贯穿了她的一生。

And she maintained big close groups of girlfriends, especially her entire life.

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这其实说明不了什么

Which says so much about It doesn't say a lot

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但关于她,我知道一些细节,比如她的朋友们有多支持她

about her.

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但确实,她的朋友们对她特别仗义

But like, I know, like, some of the details about the way that her friends just rode for her

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这真的太能说明她这个人了

and that says so much about her.

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她的朋友们有多支持她,怎么强调都不为过

It cannot be stressed enough how much her friends fucking rode for her.

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而且特别爱她

And loved her.

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她的朋友们,我们待会儿细说

Like, her friends, like, we're gonna get into it.

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她们都是真心待她的女孩

They are girl.

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我觉得她和邻居内特都是这场事件里的英雄。

Them and Nate, her neighbor, heroes of this whole situation, in my opinion.

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我也是这么想的。

Same.

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好吧。

Okay.

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我觉得她的朋友们都特别给力。

So like, I think her friends were on it.

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所以,她后来结识了一大群朋友。

So again, she developed this huge circle of friends.

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她过得特别好。

She was really thriving.

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她的朋友科尔比说,她是那种你见过最温柔的女孩。

Her friend Colby said she was one of the sweetest girls you could ever encounter.

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真暖心。

Aw.

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她高三那年,开始和另一位pinecrest的学生伦纳德·金交往。

In her senior year, she started dating Leonard King, another Pinecrest student.

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这段关系发展得特别快,快得谁都没想到。

And the relationship moved pretty fast, like faster than anyone expected.

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还没到学年结束,两人就订婚了。

Before the end of the school year, they were engaged.

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天啊,真没想到。

Oh, wow.

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他们已经开始规划未来了。

And they were discussing, like, future plans.

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科比说,她特别坚定地想早点成家,过上自己的生活。

Colby said she was adamant about starting her life and having a family.

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毕业几个月后,他们就结婚了。

And a few months after graduation, they got married.

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真不可思议。

Wow.

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婚姻刚开始还不错,但很快,高中刚毕业就结婚的现实问题就开始浮现了。

Now the marriage started out great, but soon, the realities of getting married right outside of high school started creeping in.

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是的。

Yeah.

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这种模式当然对有些人管用,但我毫不怀疑,这种情况下会带来很多额外的压力,毕竟你们还没站稳脚跟。

Which obviously this works for some people, but I don't doubt that there's a ton of extra stressors that come from that because you're not exactly established yet.

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没错。

Right.

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如果你们本来就不合适,这种压力只会让关系暴露问题。

So if you're not meant to be, I don't think it's gonna It's gonna be the thing that kind of pressure tests your relationship.

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毕业后,珊农上了大学,伦纳德则参了军。

After graduation, Shanann started college and Leonard joined the army.

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但当生活开销增加,单靠一份收入撑不下去时,珊农就退学了,去卖手机。

But when their cost of living went up and they couldn't afford life on one single income, Shanann dropped out of school and got a job selling cell phones.

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虽然这并不是她当时想要的人生,但她在这行干得非常出色。

Although it wasn't what she wanted for herself at the time, she excelled in sales.

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明白了。

Okay.

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因为她就是这样的性格。

Because of her personality.

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对。

Right.

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几年内就当上了店长,真厉害。

And within a few years, was managing the store Wow.

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还负责所有行政事务。

And handling all the administrative duties.

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她真不错。

Good for her.

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这简直是我的噩梦。

It's my nightmare.

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我绝对做不到。

Could never.

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她在手机店的成功,让店主聘她去新公司工作。

Her success at the cell phone store led to the store's owner to hire her for his new company.

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真的吗。

Wow.

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这家公司叫‘Dirty South’。

This company was called the Dirty South.

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简直太有代表性了。

Absolutely iconic.

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这是一家专门给高端客户改装汽车的公司。

It was an automobile customization company that catered to high end clientele.

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给他们的车做改装。

For their cars.

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给他们的车做改装。

For their cars.

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如果要说伦纳德和莎南婚姻开始出问题的转折点,大概就是她接下那份工作的时候。那时候她一边管着手机店,一边打理新公司,经常一天之内往返130英里,来回奔波。

If it was possible to identify the point where Leonard and Shanann's marriage kinda started to fall apart, it was probably when she took that job at the At the time, she was managing the cell phone store and the new business, often traveling the 130 miles between the two in the same day.

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哦,天哪。

Oh, wow.

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这也太多了吧。

That's a lot.

Speaker 1

所以他们俩其实很少见面。

So they were not really seeing a lot of each other.

Speaker 1

实在撑不下去了。

It just wasn't working.

Speaker 1

他们试过婚姻咨询,也用了其他各种办法想挽救这段婚姻。

They tried couples counseling and various other ways to save their marriage.

Speaker 1

他们确实努力过,你知道的,该做的都做了。

They did give it a go, you know, like they did what they could.

Speaker 1

但到了2007年,伤害已经太深,最终还是离婚了。

But in by 2007, too much damage had been done and they divorced.

Speaker 1

后来,Shanann 对朋友说:我经历了一段特别糟糕的离婚,那段关系把我掏空了。

Shanann later told a friend, I went through a real awful divorce, and that relationship took a lot from me.

Speaker 1

它真的耗尽了我所有的一切。

It literally took everything.

Speaker 1

我不得不从零开始重新打拼财务。

I had to start financially all over.

Speaker 1

这太残酷了。

That's brutal.

Speaker 1

但珊南拒绝让这段经历击垮她。

But Shanann refused to let the experience drag her down.

Speaker 1

她依然努力工作。

She continued working hard at her job.

Speaker 1

她报名参加了女王大学的夜间课程,还开始在夏洛特物色房产,打算盖属于自己的理想家园。

She enrolled in some night classes at Queen's University, and she started looking for property in Charlotte where she could start building her own dream home.

Speaker 0

真不错。

Nice.

Speaker 0

她赚到了钱。

She was making money.

Speaker 0

走吧。

Let's go.

Speaker 1

因为她特别擅长销售。

Because she was real good at sales.

Speaker 0

我们喜欢独立的女性。

We love an independent lady.

Speaker 1

她一直在拼命打拼。

And she's she was hustling.

Speaker 1

几年后,她签下了所有房贷文件,开始建造一栋占地四千平方英尺、十二个房间、四卧四卫的家。

A few years later, she signed off on all the mortgage paperwork and started construction on what would be a 4,000 square foot 12 room home with four bedrooms and four bathrooms.

Speaker 1

天哪。

Wow.

Speaker 1

她做得太出色了。

She was doing incredible.

Speaker 1

这太不可思议了。

That's crazy.

Speaker 1

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 1

但这份兴奋——成为房主、开启新生活——很快就被长期的疲惫和身体不适所抵消。

So the excitement of all this, becoming a homeowner, starting a new life, it was soon offset by long periods where she was feeling really exhausted and kind of unwell.

Speaker 1

哦。

Oh.

Speaker 1

她自己也开始察觉到了。

And she was starting to notice it.

Speaker 1

2010年,她终于去看医生,结果被诊断出患有红斑狼疮。

In 2010, she finally went to see a doctor and she was diagnosed with lupus.

Speaker 1

天哪。

Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1

这是一种自身免疫性疾病,身体的免疫系统会攻击自己的器官和组织。

It's an autoimmune disease where the body's immune system attacks its own organs and tissues.

Speaker 1

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 1

狼疮可不是闹着玩的。

Lupus is no joke.

Speaker 1

狼疮真是够呛。

Lupus sucks.

Speaker 1

她后来说,确诊狼疮的时候,她完全懵了。

She later said when they diagnosed me with lupus, I was lost.

Speaker 1

哎呀。

Aw.

Speaker 1

她根本不知道这是什么病,也不知道接下来会发生什么。

She didn't know what it was or what to expect.

Speaker 1

所以,她自然做了我们每个人都会做的事。

So of course, she did what any of us would do.

Speaker 1

她上网搜索,结果一看到那些内容就吓坏了。

She went to the Internet and tried And to search it she was immediately terrified by what she found online.

Speaker 1

但就在那段时间,珊南收到了克里斯·沃茨的好友请求。

But it was during this period that Shanann received the friend request from Chris Watts.

Speaker 1

她刚结束一段糟糕的婚姻,又长期受健康问题困扰,这时候根本没心思认识任何人,哪怕同事辛迪觉得他们俩特别般配。

Having recently come out of a bad marriage, followed by chronic health problems, she wasn't exactly interested in getting to know anyone at this point, regardless of how well her coworker Cindy thought they would get along.

Speaker 1

所以她就当没看见。

So she kind of just ignored it.

Speaker 1

她心想:算了吧。

She was like, no.

Speaker 1

结果呢,天哪。

And it's like, oh, gosh.

Speaker 1

我真希望她一直别理他。

I just wish she had forever ignored it.

Speaker 1

是啊。

I know.

Speaker 1

但几个月后,当克里斯的第二条消息出现在她邮箱里时,她想,不如就给他个机会吧。

But a few months later, when a second message from Chris appeared in her inbox, she figured she might as well give him a chance.

Speaker 1

几周后,他们第一次见面,地点是夏洛特市中心一家高档餐厅兼娱乐场所——中心点。

And a few weeks later, they met for their first date at the epicenter, which is an upscale dining and entertainment place in Downtown Charlotte.

Speaker 1

好吧。

Okay.

Speaker 1

和辛迪说的完全不一样,他们俩根本没什么共同点,第一次约会时连一点火花都没有。

Contrary to what Cindy had told them both, they had very little in common and they had a complete lack of chemistry on this first date.

Speaker 0

我的意思是,从你描述的他们俩的情况来看。

I mean, from everything you've described about each of them.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

我真的看不出来哪儿有戏。

Like, I don't see it.

Speaker 1

就我对他那点了解,我觉得一块湿抹布都比他有性格。

Personally, anything I've seen of him, I'm like, a wet rag has a bigger personality than he does.

Speaker 1

你想想,她心里肯定在想:这到底是什么情况?我完全能理解。

Like, you're I don't I don't blame her for being like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

尽管那个晚上很失望,但克里斯还是成功地继续追求她。

Despite the disappointing evening though, Chris did manage he pursued.

Speaker 1

明白了。

Okay.

Speaker 1

他设法让珊南同意再给他一次机会。

He managed to convince Shanann to give him another chance.

Speaker 1

几天后,他们一起去听了场音乐会。

And a few days later, they attended a concert together.

Speaker 1

明白了。

Okay.

Speaker 1

他后来说,我一直很坚持,努力追求她。

He later said, I was persistent trying to pursue her.

Speaker 1

真没想到。

Wow.

Speaker 1

这后来成了一个常态。

Which does become A theme.

Speaker 1

这对他来说是个执念。

A thing for him.

Speaker 1

他对女人着了魔。

He becomes obsessed with women.

Speaker 1

他眼里只剩下女人。

He becomes focused solely on women.

Speaker 1

我们会在他的情人妮可身上看到这一点。

We'll see it with his mistress Nicole.

Speaker 1

我们也会在珊南身上看到。

We'll see it with Shanann.

Speaker 1

我们之后还会看到。

We'll see it with, later.

Speaker 1

当他开始对监狱里的人感兴趣时,他就变得特别偏执,真的。

When he becomes interested in in prison, he becomes very obsessive Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为对某个人如此执着,他就是个失败者。

With somebody because he's a fucking loser.

Speaker 1

大概吧。

Probably.

Speaker 1

尽管上次约会失败了,他还是深深被珊南吸引,决心要让她相信他们俩很般配。

But despite the failure of the previous date, he found himself really drawn to Shanann and was determined to convince her that they were a good match.

Speaker 0

如果你得说服别人你们很配,那我只能说……

If you have to convince somebody that you're a good match, I'm sorry.

Speaker 0

你们根本不配。

You're not.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

花了一些时间,但他最终还是打动了她。

It took some time, but eventually he did win her over.

Speaker 1

几个月后,她对他非常满意,甚至称他是自己梦中的男人。

And with a in a few months, she was very happy with him and she was calling him the man of her dreams.

Speaker 0

天啊。

Wow.

Speaker 0

所以他确实这么做了。

So he Yeah.

Speaker 0

听起来他努力去

It sounds like he tried to

Speaker 1

成为她理想中的样子。

become what she wanted.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

他试着去迎合,也许他本身有点……

Like he tried to Maybe he's gay and little bit.

Speaker 0

研究她的喜好,还上网搜怎么表现才对。

Qualities and did some Google searches of how to act.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为等会儿你会看到,他真的去搜过:当你对一个人说我爱你,对方会有什么感受?

Because as we'll see later, he literally has to Google, what does someone feel when they tell when you tell them you love them?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为他真的不懂。

Because he literally doesn't know.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为他根本不是正常人。

Because he's not a human being.

Speaker 1

他就像个外星生物。

Like, he's a lizard person.

Speaker 1

这说不通,我敢打赌他一直在搜,男生对女生该说什么话。

That doesn't it doesn't make any I'm sure he was googling, what does human boy say to girl?

Speaker 1

他根本就不是真实的人。

Like, he is not a real thing.

Speaker 1

他就像在看爱情喜剧,然后逐字记笔记。

He's like watching, like, rom coms and taking notes.

Speaker 1

他可怕得要命。

He's scary as hell.

Speaker 1

我敢肯定他能做到,因为这种可怕的人其实就是空壳,只会拼命模仿别人的情感表达。

And I'm sure that he was able to because one thing about these scary as hell fucking They people who are just empty husks that just look to fill themselves with other people's ideas of emotions.

Speaker 1

他们能完美伪装。

They can blend.

Speaker 1

他们也很擅长操控。

They can manipulate too.

Speaker 1

他们会变成你想要或需要的样子,因为这才是他们接近你的手段。

And they become for you what you need or want because that's how they want to get you.

Speaker 1

对。

Mhmm.

Speaker 1

但骨子里,他们根本不是那样的人。

But deep down, they are not that.

Speaker 1

所以他们没法长期维持那个虚构出来的假象。

So then they can't live up to that that fake thing that they've created for can't continue on like

Speaker 0

就是这样。

that.

Speaker 1

然后这就变得危险了。

And then it becomes dangerous.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

她根本无从知晓,不可能知道。

So she had no way of knowing No.

Speaker 1

这个男人根本就是个空洞的垃圾,迟早会崩塌。

Of that this man is just this empty husk of bullshit that is gonna crumble.

Speaker 1

随着时间推移,他们之间那些契合的地方慢慢显现出来,这让人们更容易产生一种想法:也许我们真是天生一对。

Now over time, the various ways that they were compatible started to show themselves, which made it a little easier to, like, go down this path of like, maybe we are meant for each other.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

照顾她的狼疮需要依赖大量药物,还要频繁看医生,尤其是专科门诊。

Because managing her lupus meant relying on a lot of medications and attending a lot of doctors appointments and like specialist appointments.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

珊南不是那种人,她有很多优点,但从来不是个有条理的人。

And Shanann was not she was a lot of things, but she was never a very well organized person.

Speaker 1

我们每个人都有自己的特点。

We all have our

Speaker 0

我也不是,姐妹。

I'm not either, sister.

Speaker 1

克里斯一生都特别爱整理,这确实没错。

And Chris's lifelong compulsive hyperorganization, which yeah.

Speaker 1

这在当时派上了用场,因为没过多久,他就开始帮她管理药物。

It it did come in handy here because before long, he would manage her medications for her.

Speaker 1

他还帮她安排医生的预约,提醒她吃药,或者告诉她该去哪个医生那里,乍一看,你可能会觉得,哇,这人真体贴,真关心她。

He would kinda keep her doctor schedule under control, remind her, you gotta take your meds or like, you gotta go to this doctor's appointment, which at first glance, you would look at and say, wow, that's really kind and like thoughtful and that's somebody who cares about you.

Speaker 0

他居然帮她管医生的预约,这简直太离谱了。

It's actually insane that he used to manage her doctor's appointments.

Speaker 0

我们会到那一步的。

We'll get there.

Speaker 1

我们会到那一步的。

We'll get there.

Speaker 1

与此同时,莎南弥补了克里斯在社交方面的不足,他这方面的问题可不少。

So Shanann, meanwhile, made up for Chris's social struggles and deficiencies, of which he had plenty.

Speaker 1

对。

Mhmm.

Speaker 1

她带他认识自己的朋友,让他参与所有活动,相当于给他搭起了一个朋友圈,没错。

She introduced him to her friends and, like, included him in all their activities, kinda, like, gave him a friend group Right.

Speaker 1

差不多就是这么回事。

Essentially.

Speaker 1

没过多久,克里斯就搬进了莎南的家,大家也都渐渐觉得,这段关系或许真能成。

And before long, Chris moved into Shanann's house and everything everyone kinda started to feel pretty confident that like, this might work out.

Speaker 1

他们俩看起来确实是在好好相处。

Like, think they're actually working together.

Speaker 1

随着克里斯慢慢但坚定地融入了珊南的生活,有些人——尤其是克里斯的家人——并不完全认同这段关系。

And as Chris was slowly but surely becoming integrated into Shanann's life, some people, especially Chris's family, were were not entirely on board with this.

Speaker 1

他们觉得两个人并不合适。

They did not feel like they were a good fit for each other.

Speaker 0

是立刻就看出来了吗?

Just like immediately?

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

没错。

Okay.

Speaker 1

另外,我想提醒一下,这两个人都是成年人。

Also, I wanna remind you, these are two grown adults.

Speaker 1

你觉不觉得他们合适,根本没人在乎。

So no one gives a flying fuck if you think that they're fit for each other.

Speaker 1

他们自己得弄清楚。

They gotta figure that out.

Speaker 1

对。

Yep.

Speaker 1

我只是想提醒一下,别觉得他们俩在一起有什么不对。

Just putting that out there for anybody who thinks that this is this makes sense.

Speaker 1

克里斯的妹妹杰米说,我们见面后其实也没把握。

Chris' sister Jamie said, we met and we weren't sure.

Speaker 1

这真不是你能说了算的。

It's really not up to you.

Speaker 1

好吧。

Okay.

Speaker 1

因为你根本没在那段关系里。

Because you're not in the relationship.

Speaker 1

没错。

Right.

Speaker 1

好吧。

Okay.

Speaker 1

两家第一次见面时,克里斯的父母立刻对珊农的生活方式产生了怀疑。

When the families got together for the first time, Chris's parents were immediately suspicious of Shanann's lifestyle.

Speaker 1

什么?

What?

Speaker 1

他们说,这么年轻的人不可能买得起这么豪华的房子。

They said it didn't seem possible that someone so young could afford such a lavish home.

Speaker 0

好吧。

Okay.

Speaker 0

她可是拼命工作才赚到的。

Well, she works her ass off.

Speaker 1

关键是,

Here's the thing.

Speaker 1

就算你儿子是个废物,

Just because your son is a fucking loser

Speaker 0

对。

Right.

Speaker 1

并不意味着所有人都这样。

Does not mean everyone is.

Speaker 1

Shanann 工作非常拼命。

Shanann worked her ass off.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

你说她该去干点什么,你觉得呢?

And it's like, what do you think Some people she should do

Speaker 0

有些人拼命工作。

work their asses off.

Speaker 0

有些人则不然。

Others don't.

Speaker 1

所以她以为他们觉得她花钱大手大脚。

So she assumed they assumed that she was reckless with money.

Speaker 1

她凭空建起了你梦想中的家,一无所有,全靠自己,这哪是随便能猜到的。

That's quite the assumption to make She built you her know dream with nothing no about more power.

Speaker 1

她有两份工作,但花钱大手大脚。

Two jobs, but she was reckless.

Speaker 0

每天还要来回奔波130英里。

And traveling a 130 miles back and forth per day.

Speaker 1

但她确实乱花钱。

But she was reckless with money.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

当然了。

For sure.

Speaker 1

还有,她二十多岁就离过一次婚。

Then there was the fact that she had already been married and divorced by her mid twenties.

Speaker 1

谁在乎啊?

Who gives a fuck?

Speaker 1

人人都这样,你倒一副大惊小怪的样子。

Everybody's well, you clutch the pearls.

Speaker 1

冷静点。

Get a grip.

Speaker 1

但最大的问题,至少在克里斯妈妈看来,是珊农的妈妈桑迪。

But the biggest problem, at least as far as Chris's mother was concerned, was Shanann's mother, Sandy.

Speaker 1

哦。

Oh.

Speaker 1

这两个女人一见面就合不来。

The two women clashed immediately.

Speaker 1

真的吗?

Really?

Speaker 1

桑迪离开那次会面时,根本没觉得这事能成。

And Sandy did not walk away from that meeting feeling good about potential for success here.

Speaker 1

桑迪后来说,我得指出,桑迪这次完全说对了。

Sandy later said, and, I'd like to point out that Sandy was 100% correct here.

Speaker 1

叫她先知吧。

Call her Nostradamus.

Speaker 1

她说,她早就知道这人会成为婚姻里的刺。

She said, I knew she was gonna be a thorn in the marriage.

Speaker 1

结果还真是。

And she was.

Speaker 1

当妈的?

A mama?

Speaker 0

典型的那种。

Most mamas.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

不是。

No.

Speaker 1

不是。

No.

Speaker 1

我觉得她心里想的是:哦,你这人麻烦大了。

And I think she was like, oh, you're gonna be a problem.

Speaker 1

天哪,不行。

Oh, no.

Speaker 1

到了2011年,珊南当时最要好的两个朋友,吉娜和查理·迪茨,搬到了科罗拉多州的布卢姆菲尔德。

Now in 2011, Shanann's close two closest friends at the time, Gina and Charlie Dietz, moved to Broomfield, Colorado.

Speaker 1

几周之内,他们就对珊南说:你得搬过来。

And within weeks, they were saying, Shanann, you have to move here.

Speaker 1

他们说,这清新的山地空气对你的狼疮简直太有好处了。

They said this fresh mountain air will be fucking awesome for your lupus.

Speaker 1

我觉得这对你有帮助。

I think it's gonna help you.

Speaker 1

那地方特别美。

It's a beautiful area.

Speaker 1

而就在前几个月,她刚经历了一次严重的病情发作。

Like, there and she had just experienced a really bad flare up of the illness in the previous months.

Speaker 1

明白了。

Okay.

Speaker 1

所以从这个角度看,搬过去确实挺有吸引力的。

So the idea of moving was appealing in that sense.

Speaker 1

但她刚建好自己的理想之家,你知道的。

But she had just finished building her dream house Right.

Speaker 1

而且她和克里斯的关系也挺顺利的。

And things were going well with Chris.

Speaker 1

所以她就说,我不确定。

So she's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1

这

That's

Speaker 0

我可不想说走就走,扔下这一切。

a know big that I wanna just, like, up and leave.

Speaker 0

对吧?

Right?

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

那年八月,克里斯和莎南在北卡罗来纳州的海洋岛海滩租了一栋房子,还邀请家人一起去海边度假。

That August, Chris and Shanann rented a house in Ocean Isle Beach, North Carolina and invited family to spend some time at the beach with them.

Speaker 1

度假开始几天后的一个下午,克里斯找到莎南的父亲弗兰克,告诉他打算向莎南求婚。

One afternoon, a few days into the vacation, Chris approached Frank, who is, Shanann's father, and told him he wanted to ask Shanann to marry him.

Speaker 1

对。

Okay.

Speaker 1

不过前提是得先得到弗兰克的同意。

But only if Frank gave his permission.

Speaker 1

不是的。

Uh-uh.

Speaker 1

弗兰克可不是那种会阻拦女儿幸福的人,他马上就同意了。

Not, you know, one to stand in the way of his daughter's happiness, Frank immediately gave his blessing.

Speaker 1

没过多久,克里斯就在海滩上向香南求婚,她答应了。

And a short time later, Chris proposed to Shanann on the beach and she said yes.

Speaker 1

真好。

Nice.

Speaker 1

那时候。

At the time.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

几个月后,克里斯和珊农飞往科罗拉多州去看望吉娜和查理。

Now a few months later, Chris and Shanann flew to Colorado to visit Gina and Charlie.

Speaker 1

这是珊农的朋友第一次见到她的未婚夫。

And it was the first time Shanann's friends had met her now fiance.

Speaker 1

大家都很高兴,经过那段糟糕的感情后,她终于找到了一个人,据所有人说,他对她非常专一。

And they were pleased that after such a disastrous relationship, the marriage, she had found someone who seemed, by all accounts, everyone said he seemed very devoted to her.

Speaker 1

明白。

Okay.

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吉娜回忆说,他非常体贴、细心、善良,但有点害羞和内向。

Gina recalled he was very doting, attentive, kind, but shy, and introverted.

Speaker 1

大家都这么说。

They all say this.

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他母亲说起这事时语气里满是愤怒,说他对莎南特别体贴。

His mother says this with much ire in her voice that he was very doting on Shanann.

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但你可能会觉得,你应该为此感到骄傲。

But you would think that you'd be proud

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儿子能当个体贴的丈夫,你该高兴才对。

of your son for being a doting husband.

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这是我的看法。

I That's my opinion.

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我也会这么想。

That's what I would think.

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要是我儿子是个体贴的丈夫,我肯定得说,太棒了。

Like, I had a son and he was a doting husband, I'd be like, hell yeah.

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这孩子教得真好。

Raised him right.

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对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

当然了。

Like, hell yeah.

Speaker 0

好好对待你的伴侣。

Treat treat your Treat

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对待你的另一半,就得像对待女王或国王一样,你知道的吧?

your partner like a fucking queen or king or whatever, you know?

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但就是在这次旅行中,搬去科罗拉多的事又被提了出来。

But it was during that trip that the question of moving to Colorado came up again.

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吉娜坚信这对珊农的健康有好处,而克里斯对此没什么态度,既不支持也不反对,因为

Gina was convinced it would be better for Shanann's health, and Chris didn't seem to have an opinion one way or another because

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他根本没反应。

He tracks.

Speaker 1

他就像个空壳子。

He's an empty husk.

Speaker 1

大家都觉得,这事儿迟早得提出来。

Everybody like, this the idea is gonna come up here.

Speaker 1

他妈妈总喜欢这么说,你看看任何关于他的采访,她说自己特别强势。

And, like, you know, his mom likes to say it and stuff that, look at any interview with him, that, she said she was domineering.

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就是珊南·沃茨。

That Shanann Watts.

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或者说她就是那种人,你知道的,太强势了。

Or that she was too, like, you know, that kind of person.

Speaker 1

这不只是我的看法。

I don't this is just my opinion.

Speaker 1

她看起来并不像特别强势的人。

It's not that it looks like she's very domineering.

Speaker 1

相反,我觉得克里斯·沃茨就是个空壳,我再说一遍,他什么都接受。

It looks that Chris Watts is an empty, again, I say husk that will just take anything Yeah.

Speaker 1

只要还行,他就随波逐流,直到实在受不了了。

And just roll with it until it doesn't work for him anymore.

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然后他就爆发了。

And then he explodes.

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而且他好像对女人特别着迷。

It also seems that he becomes obsessed with women.

Speaker 0

这是我的看法。

That's my opinion.

Speaker 0

所以如果他着迷的那女人想搬去科罗拉多,

So if the woman that he's obsessed with wants to move to Colorado, of

Speaker 1

那肯定就跟着去了。

course, gonna go with it.

Speaker 1

他到底有什么打算?

Well, he just What does he have going on?

Speaker 0

没错。

Right.

Speaker 1

他根本不在乎。

He doesn't care.

Speaker 1

当然了。

Sure.

Speaker 1

我们走吧,那儿

Let's go There's to

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到处都是车。

cars everywhere.

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到处都是。

Everywhere.

Speaker 0

那边就是科罗拉多。

There's Colorado.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

科罗拉多也有很多车吗?

Is there cars in Colorado?

Speaker 1

咱们去科罗拉多吧。

Let's go to Colorado.

Speaker 1

看起来确实如此。

That's how it seems to be.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

你懂的。

You know?

Speaker 1

所以他当时说,嗯,根本不在乎。

So he was like, yeah, don't really give a shit.

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所以度假期间,这对夫妇请了一位房产中介带他们四处看看,挑了几处房产。

So during the vacation, the couple hire hired a realtor to take them around the area and look at some properties.

Speaker 1

等他们准备启程回北卡罗来纳时,已经决定尽快搬去科罗拉多。

And by the time they were leaving to go back to North Carolina, they'd made the decision to move to Colorado as soon as possible.

Speaker 1

好吧。

Okay.

Speaker 1

事实上,他们还没到家,就已经想好了计划。

In fact, before they'd even gotten home, they'd already come up with a plan.

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克里斯会先搬去科罗拉多,住进吉娜和查理家,而珊南则留在北卡罗来纳,处理卖房和收拾东海岸的其他事务。

Chris would move to Colorado first and stay with Gina and Charlie, while Shanann remained in North Carolina to sell the house and kind of wrap up all the affairs on the East Coast.

Speaker 1

明白了。

Okay.

Speaker 1

因为这时候他们还没孩子。

Because again, they don't have kids at this point.

Speaker 1

这样简单多了。

It's much easier.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

现在,克里斯和莎南搬去科罗拉多的计划,又成了他们和双方家庭之间新的矛盾点。

Now Chris and Shanann's plan to move to Colorado became yet another point of contention with the families.

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妈妈不希望她走。

Mama doesn't want her right

Speaker 1

不对。

No.

Speaker 1

解脱了。

Relief.

Speaker 1

虽然珊农的家人很支持她,帮她准备搬家和即将举行的婚礼,但克里斯的母亲却很难接受这件事。

While Shanann's family was supportive and helped her prepare for the move and the upcoming wedding, Chris's mom struggled to accept this.

Speaker 0

我能想象。

I bet.

Speaker 1

她说搬去科罗拉多是珊农的主意。

She said Colorado was Shanann's idea.

Speaker 0

你怎么会知道?

How do you know that?

Speaker 0

因为你没在饭桌上。

Because you're not at the dinner table

Speaker 1

那些对话你根本没参与。

You're not in those conversations are happening.

Speaker 1

就像你根本不在场一样。

Like you're Yeah.

Speaker 0

抱歉。

Sorry.

Speaker 0

滚吧。

Fuck off.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

其实我也不是他们关系中的一员。

Like, I'm not in the relationship either.

Speaker 1

所以我说不定她真有这个想法。

So I'm not saying it wasn't her idea.

Speaker 0

但你不清楚,我们都不清楚。

But you don't know We don't know.

Speaker 0

你真的不清楚。

You don't

Speaker 1

知道吗?

know that.

Speaker 0

我们都一样,谁都不清楚。

We all share the common thing that we don't know.

Speaker 1

你知道吗?

And you know what?

Speaker 1

他其实也配合了。

He was going along with it.

Speaker 1

对啊。

Mhmm.

Speaker 1

那问题出在哪?

So what's the problem?

Speaker 1

没错。

Right.

Speaker 1

他明明同意了,而且

It's like he agreed to it and

Speaker 0

他们在那里住了多久?

they lived there for how long?

Speaker 0

显然,那段时间过得还行。

Like, obviously, was fine for a little bit.

Speaker 1

还有不少成年人。

There were also, grown adults.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

所以她说,她为什么非要带他去科罗拉多?

So, she said, why did she want to leave and take him all the way to Colorado?

Speaker 1

带他走。

Take him.

Speaker 1

他都成年了。

He's a grown adult.

Speaker 1

他不是小孩子。

He's not a child.

Speaker 1

你根本没资格带他到处跑。

You should can't take him anywhere.

Speaker 1

我刚才在这儿写着呢,天哪。

And I literally just wrote here, Jesus.

Speaker 1

虽然克里斯其他家人的支持比他妈妈多一些,但还是能感觉到他们心存不满

And while the rest of Chris' family was a little more supportive than his mom was, they still seem to harbor resentment

Speaker 0

对啊

Mhmm.

Speaker 1

就是因为这事

For this.

Speaker 1

筹备订婚派对时,珊南请贾米——他妹妹——帮忙操办,特别交代她负责订餐

As they prepared for the engagement party, Shanann asked Jamie, his sister, to help in planning, specifically asking her to order the food.

Speaker 1

她明明让贾米订无麸质的食物,结果贾米没办,导致珊南在自己的订婚派对上一口饭都吃不上

And she had told Jamie to order gluten free food, and she failed to do so, which resulted in Shanann not being able to eat anything at the at the engagement party for her.

Speaker 1

天哪

Wow.

Speaker 1

是啊

Yeah.

Speaker 1

真不错

Cool.

Speaker 1

Jamie说这只是一个误会。

Jamie maintains that it was a mistake.

Speaker 1

这纯粹是沟通出了问题。

It was a it was a like miscommunication.

Speaker 1

这种事确实难免。

That can happen.

Speaker 1

没错。

For sure.

Speaker 1

这种事情是有可能发生的。

It can happen.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

你看啊,

Looking at, you know

Speaker 1

咱们得从双方的角度来看。

Looking at both sides here.

Speaker 1

但桑迪,珊农的妈妈觉得,这可能是出于一种微妙的报复心理,因为沃茨一家觉得珊农把克里斯从他们身边夺走了。

But Sandy, Shanann's mom suspects it was maybe could have been just in her opinion, a subtle attempt to punish her for what the Watts family did perceive as stealing Chris from them.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为他们很明显地表现出,觉得是珊农把克里斯从他们身边带走了。

Because they made it pretty obvious that they felt like she had taken him away.

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于是,两家之间的紧张关系在几个月后终于爆发了。

So the tension between the families finally came to a head several months later.

Speaker 1

他们认为珊农控制欲强、专横霸道,还操纵克里斯,让他在关系中的各种决定上顺从她。

They believed Shanann was controlling and overbearing and that she'd manipulated Chris to get her way when it came to all the decisions in the relationship.

Speaker 1

他们就是这么看她的。

That's just how they saw her.

Speaker 1

明白了。

Okay.

Speaker 1

当一切最终爆发时,克里斯和家人因此闹翻了。

When it all finally boiled over, Chris had a falling out with his family over it.

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多年后,他说,我跟家里彻底闹翻了,甚至说我不再需要他们任何人,因为我有Shanann。

Years later, he said, I blew up at my family to the point where I said I didn't need any of them anymore because I have Shanann.

Speaker 1

那你猜接下来发生了什么?

And then are you ready for it?

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听到这儿,你肯定觉得,天哪。

So you hear that and you're like, woah.

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就是这种感觉。

Like that.

Speaker 1

你真的站队了?

You actually took a stance?

Speaker 1

没有。

No.

Speaker 1

他说,我不确定是Shanann怂恿我这么做的,还是我头一回被怒火彻底吞噬了。

He said, I don't know if Shanann coached me to do it or if it was just rage like I'd never seen before.

Speaker 1

你也不确定?

You don't know?

Speaker 1

他真是个窝囊废。

He is such a pussy ass wet rag.

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我真的不知道该怎么道歉。

Like, I'm can't sorry.

Speaker 0

如果你是被她教唆的,你心里肯定清楚。

Like, you would know if she coached you to do that.

Speaker 0

她肯定会跟你说,去跟家人发脾气吧。

There would be instances where she would say, hey, freak out on your family.

Speaker 1

你偏偏选在Shanann没法反驳的时候说这种话,真是方便。

Hey, So your family convenient of you to say that when Shanann cannot dispute that.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

你也该成熟一点了。

And also, grow the fuck up.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

你居然还替她说话。

You got so you stood up for her.

Speaker 1

我不确定她有没有教过我。

I don't know if she coached me.

Speaker 1

我真的不知道。

I don't know.

Speaker 1

你也不知道?

You don't know?

Speaker 0

我也不清楚。

I do not know.

Speaker 1

你真是个混蛋。

You fucking idiot.

Speaker 1

你也不知道?

You don't know?

Speaker 1

我做不到。

I can't.

Speaker 1

他真让人反感。

He's so gross.

Speaker 1

确实如此。

He is.

Speaker 1

他就是特别让人反感。

Like, he's so gross.

Speaker 0

他就是个懦夫。

He's just a wimp.

Speaker 1

他啊,真是烦人。

He is ugh.

Speaker 1

他一说‘比利·卢米斯’,我就想到《惊声尖叫》里的兰迪,简直是个泳装里的窝囊废。

It just makes me think of Randy and Scream when he says, Billy Loomis, what a pussy ass wet rag in the swimsuit.

Speaker 1

他给我的感觉就是这样的。

That's literally what he feels like to me.

Speaker 1

她确实指导过。

She coached.

Speaker 1

你给我清醒点,你这个没用的废物。

You get a fucking grip, you fucking useless moose knuckle.

Speaker 1

到2012年4月,他早就不是什么废物了。

So by April 2012 Not a moose knuckle.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

一个废物。

A moose knuckle.

Speaker 1

胆小鬼。

Little pussy.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我说了算。

I said it.

Speaker 1

我坚持我的说法。

I stand I stand by it.

Speaker 1

到2012年4月,克里斯已经辞职,搬去和吉娜和查理一起住。

By April 2012, Chris had quit his job and moved in with Gina and Charlie.

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但他每天都和莎南保持联系,莎南留下来处理卖房的事。

But he stayed in daily contact with Shanann, who stayed behind to sell the house.

Speaker 1

结果房子卖得比他们预想的要慢一些。

And it turned out that the house took a little longer to sell than they thought.

Speaker 1

但到了八月,她终于找到了买家,还小赚了一笔,毕竟她是个销售出身。

But by August, she finally found a buyer and even made a little bit of a profit on the sale because she's a sales girl.

Speaker 0

没错。

Hell yeah.

Speaker 1

房子卖出去后,她就去科罗拉多和克里斯会合了。

With the house sold, she joined Chris in Colorado.

Speaker 1

他们一开始住在迪茨家地下室的小房间里,直到2013年10月,才在科罗拉多的弗雷德里克买了自己的房子。

And they first shared a small bedroom in the Dietz's basement until October 2013 when they bought the house in Frederick, Colorado Okay.

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