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Darkcast Network, indie pods with a dark side.
你有没有想过，我到底是怎么走到这一步的？
Have you ever wondered how in the hell did I get here?
你不是一个人。
You're not alone.
我的播客叫《真实犯罪连线》，这是一个倡导类播客，我会和有毒关系、虐待婚姻的幸存者对话。
My podcast is called True Crime Connections, an advocacy podcast where I talk with survivors of toxic relationships, abusive marriages.
我们都有一个共同点。
We all have one thing in common.
我们到底是怎么走到这一步的？
How in the hell did we get here?
又该怎么走出来？
And how do we get out?
怎么才能重新找回自己的价值？
How do we find our self worth again?
如果你有这种感觉，那就来看看我的播客吧，因为你不仅能得到切实可行的步骤来帮你重新掌控生活，还能听到别人是如何应对他们自己的困境的，包括成瘾、自杀念头，以及自我价值感和自尊心低落的问题。
Well, if you feel that way, come check out my podcast because not only do you get actionable steps to take to help you take your life back, but you can listen to how others have dealt with their own situations, including addiction, suicidal ideation, and low self worth and respect.
我们能帮你走上正轨。
We can get you on the right track.
一定要去看看《True Crime Connections》。
Make sure to check out True Crime Connections.
我们到时候见。
See you there.
恶魔要来了。
Devil is on his way.
恶魔要来了。
Devil is on his way.
恶魔要来了，混蛋。
Devil is on his way, motherfucker.
恶魔会让你付出代价。
The devil gonna make you pay.
跪下。
Fall to your knees.
魔鬼要来了。
Devil is on his way.
跪下。
Fall to your knees.
魔鬼会让你付出代价。
Devil gonna make you pay.
跪下。
Fall to your knees.
魔鬼要来了。
Devil is on his way.
混蛋，他来了。
Motherfucker, he's on his way.
嘿，大家好。
Hey, y'all.
欢迎回到《山》
Welcome back to Mountain
谋杀案。
Murders.
我是希瑟。
I'm Heather.
我是迪伦。
And I'm Dylan.
嘿，迪伦。
Hey, Dylan.
怎么了？
What up?
最近怎么样？
How's it hanging?
你知道的，就是随便混混。
You know, just chilling.
你就在这儿闲着？
You just chilling?
看着夏天慢慢过去。
Watching the summer go by.
看着，是啊。
Watching the yeah.
好吧，我觉得这也是一种过法。
Well, I guess that's one way to do it.
对。
Yeah.
就看着它一天天过去。
Just watch it roll on by.
我就是这么过的。
That's how I do it.
我就坐着看。
I sit and I look.
潮水。
The tide.
当我在
When I'm
潮水上。
on tide.
我看到一些东西。
And I see things.
好吧。
Alright.
你最近是不是经常坐着发呆？
You've been doing a lot of sitting and looking lately?
没有。
I haven't.
其实我一直没机会。
I haven't had a chance to actually.
哎，别在我们院子里坐太久，不然会被蚊子咬得满身包。
Well, don't sit too long in our yard or you'll be ed up with mosquito bites.
对。
Yeah.
在我们院子里坐着看风景，最多待十五分钟。
You can't sit and look in our yard for more than about fifteen minutes.
到处都是蚊子。
There's skeeters everywhere.
它们都出来了，
They are out
成群结队的。
in full force.
而且你知道吗，
And you
迪伦？
know what, Dylan?
它们会咬人，这可不行。
They bite, and it is not okay.
对。
No.
它们就是不让你好过。
They don't want you to have a good time.
蚊子就是不让你好过。
Skeeters do not want you to have a good time.
迪伦，我们知道上一期节目很有争议，因为我们表达了自己的看法。
Dylan, we knew our last episode was controversial as we expressed our opinions.
天哪，有个人对我们非常不满，说我们的话太恶心了。
And man, we had we had someone who was very upset with us and told us our comments were so disgusting.
哦。
Oh.
就是说到密西西比那个小男孩，他妈妈在车里把他晃来晃去，结果他被枪击了。
When speaking about the the little boy who was shot in Mississippi after his mother, you know, waved him around the car.
她对我们的评论感到非常恶心。
She was so disgusted by our comments.
她再也听不下去了。
She just can't listen to us anymore.
好吧，我得承认，在讨论那件事的时候，我确实没有充分表达出这起事件有多惨。
Well, one thing I would say I failed at when we were discussing that is expressing what a terrible tragedy this situation is.
一个小孩就这样失去了生命，而且是在你能想象到的最离奇的情况下。
And you have this little child who has lost their life in just the weirdest set of circumstances you could imagine.
但话说回来，我真的觉得责任还是在母亲身上。
But again, I really think the responsibility falls back on the mother.
就像希瑟说的，警察在这种情况下的决策时间只有一瞬间。
And like Heather talked about, you know, cops have these split seconds to make decisions in these situations.
我觉得这两个女人几乎把能犯的错都犯了，把事情搞得越来越糟。
And I think it's almost like these two women did everything wrong in the situation that they could to make it worse.
好吧，这是我的看法。
Well, here's my input.
你可以生气。
You can be mad.
你可以非常生气。
You can be big mad.
你可以说我们是恶心的人。
You can tell us we're disgusting human beings.
相信我。
Trust me.
你可能不是第一个对我说这种话的人。
You're probably not the first person that's ever said that to me in my life.
你其实伤不到我的感情。
You actually can't hurt my feelings.
如果你见过我父母，你就会知道，你伤不到我的感情。
If you've met my parents, then you would know you can't hurt my feelings.
不过我想指出的是，你们对两个播客主持人表达观点感到愤怒，而且你们对我们的愤怒，比对那个母亲的愤怒还要大。那个母亲没有尽到责任，没有保护好她的孩子：第一，她把孩子带进了一个可能正在发生犯罪的商店，而那个犯罪的人还是她的朋友；第二，她没有把孩子固定在车里的安全座椅上；第三，她还在警察拔枪的情况下，把孩子抱起来，像挥舞一样地晃来晃去，而她的朋友正开车逃走。
I would like to point out, however, that you are angry at two podcasters for expressing an opinion, and you are more angry at us than you are at the mother who failed her child and failed to protect her child by a, bringing the child into a store where a crime is possibly being committed by your friend, b, not strapping that child into a safety seat, into a car seat in the car, and then, c, picking the child up and, like, waving the child around at police who have guns drawn as your friend is driving away.
所以这意味着你跳上了一辆可能开得摇摇晃晃的车。
So that means you jumped into a car that may be driven erratically.
你的孩子没有正确系好安全带。
Your child's not in a proper restraint.
没有坐在合适的儿童座椅里。
It's not in a proper seat.
什么事都可能发生。
Anything could happen.
你可能会出车祸，从停车场飞驰而出，你知道，从停车场冲出去，可能发生的事太多了。
You could get into a car wreck, driving out of the park, you know, flying out of the parking lot, like a million things could happen.
就像我说的，他们几乎把所有能让情况更糟的做法都占全了。
And like I said, it's almost like they checked every box for what can you do to make the situation worse.
但我觉得这挺有意思的，或者说挺让人不安的。
But that's what I find amusing, I guess, or just disturbing.
因为这事儿既好笑，但说到底又有点让人不安，人们竟然会因为一个观点而这么激动。
Because it's amusing, but also a little disturbing at the end of the day when people get so riled up about, like, an opinion.
所以你对我们的火气这么大，但对那个本该保护孩子的母亲却没那么生气。
So you're mad at us, but you don't have that same anger toward the mother who was supposed to protect the child.
这就是真正让我——我们继续吧。
And that's what really and we'll move on.
但真正让我抓狂的是，你就认了吧，兄弟。
But that's what really drives me crazy in this situation is just take the charge, man.
就认了这个该死的轻罪入店行窃指控吧。
Just take the damn misdemeanor shoplifting charge.
对吧？
Right?
你这是在干嘛呢？
I mean, what are you doing?
迪伦，我还觉得特别有意思的是，有些种族正义倡导者也在公开反对这件事。
Well, what I find really interesting too, Dylan, is that there are some racial justice advocates that are speaking out against this.
其中一位说，一个家庭因为一些可以重新上架、可以注销、可以替换的东西而破碎了。
And one of them said that a family was shattered over items that could be restocked, written off, and replaced.
好的。
Okay.
我觉得我能理解那个观点。
I mean, I guess I see that point of view.
是的。
Yes.
但与此同时，入店行窃是一种犯罪，你不能——我觉得你只是在说，人们可以进商店偷东西，而与其指控他们、试图追回商品或者报警，不如就让那些小偷拿走东西然后走人，因为可能会发生这样的事。
But at the same time, shoplifting is a crime and you cannot I mean, I feel like all you're doing is saying that it's okay for people to go in a store and shoplift and that instead of charging them or trying to retrieve your items or calling police, that you should just let those people steal from you go about their day because something like this could happen.
你看，这就是社会堕落时会发生的事情。
And see, this is what happens in as your society degrades.
所以我们正在
So we're
淡化最初引发这件事的罪行或问题，现在焦点转移到了后来发生的另一起事件上，但那起事件之所以发生，完全是因为之前的选择和行为。
watering down the crime or the issue that started this, and now the focus is on this other incident that occurred, but only occurred because of the choices and things that were done before.
但那是稻草人论证，因为你也可以选择进店不偷东西。
That's a straw man argument though, because you could also go in there and not shoplift.
我的意思是，我真的不明白，你的观点到底是什么？
I mean, I really don't what is your point?
你看，这就是当你开始觉得公司都是坏的时候会发生的事情。你知道，有些公司确实很烂，为了利润不择手段。
And and see, this is what happens when you start thinking like, corporations are bad, you know, which corporations are shit and they do terrible things for the bottom line.
但它们也提供我们每天都要用的服务。
But also they provide services that we all use daily.
而且当你开始
And when you get
进入这个话题，它们雇佣了你社区里成百上千的人。
into And it they are employing hundreds or thousands of people in your community.
那些每周的工资支票，最后又流通回你的社区。
Those are paychecks every week being collected that are being circulated back into your community.
所以归根结底，也许他们应该付更高的工资，但他们还是为很多人提供了服务。
So at the end of the day, maybe they should pay higher wages whatever, but they're still providing services for lots of people.
好吧，你总是听到人们说，哎呀，他们付的工资不够。
Well, you see everyone say these things like, oh, they don't pay enough.
他们没做这些。
They don't do this.
我同意很多观点，但这并不意味着偷窃就是对的。
And I agree with a lot of that, but that doesn't make the other that doesn't make shoplifting okay.
你看，还是那个种族正义倡导者，我是说，你怎么申请那种工作？
And see that's that same racial justice advocate, which I mean, how do you apply for that job?
我得去了解一下。
I need to look into that.
我觉得我肯定能胜任。
I think I'd be great at that.
他们会第一个指责商店或企业关门，说他们抛弃了社区，可他们明明在亏钱，你知道吗，亏得血本无归。
We'll be the first one to admonish a store or business for closing down and say they're abandoning the neighborhood when they're losing money, you know, you know, rupturing money.
而且还有人进去跟员工打架什么的。
And and people are in there trying to fight the employees and stuff.
他们不安全。
They're not safe.
所以，我的意思是，这太荒谬了。
So, I mean, it's ridiculous.
这真的是一种荒谬的心态。
It's a really a ridiculous mindset.
嗯，当我读到那份声明时，感觉就像是在给罪犯开绿灯，说你们就让他们偷吧，因为如果不让他们偷，他们可能会伤害自己的孩子。
Well, when I read that statement, I mean, it's like giving the green light to criminals and saying, you've gotta just let them shoplift because if you don't, they could harm their child.
或者他们的孩子可能会受到伤害，那……
Or their child could get harmed that
他们可能不把孩子绑在安全座椅上，把孩子抱给警察看，结果孩子被枪杀了。
They they they could not strap their child in a car seat and show their their child to cops and get the baby shot.
这太荒谬了。
It's ridiculous.
我喜欢从逻辑和理性的角度来看问题。
I like to approach things from a logical, reasonable standpoint.
我看到这些论点，就觉得它们根本说不通，而且你有点没抓住重点。
And I just see some of these arguments and I think, you know, they don't make sense and you're kinda missing the point.
而且，是的，我可能是个让人恶心的人。
And, yes, I am probably a disgusting person.
我知道。
I know that.
嗯，不是的。
Well, no.
就像当你看到
It's like when you see
我确实有很多恶心的想法，只是没在播客里说。
I do have disgust there are plenty of disgusting thoughts I have I don't share on the podcast.
所以，孕妇。
So pregnant woman.
你们应该庆幸没听到那些想法。
Just be grateful you don't hear those thoughts.
你看到一个大肚子的女人在外面胡闹，惹是生非。
You see a pregnant woman out somewhere acting a fool, getting into some BS.
然后，比如说警察来了，或者有人受够了他们的胡闹，因为他们整晚都在喋喋不休之类的。
And then, like, say the cops show up or someone's, like, had enough of their shit because they've been running their mouth all night or something.
然后突然之间，他们就说，天哪，我怀孕了。
And then all of a sudden they oh god, I'm pregnant.
对我温柔点。
Be easy with me.
但作为母亲，你有责任时刻保护那个孩子，即使他还在肚子里。
But the burden is on you as the mother to be protecting that child at all times, even when it's in the womb.
所以你应该找个地方好好休息。
So you're the one that should be somewhere chilling out.
你应该尽量避免冲突，即使错在别人。
You should be avoiding confrontation at all costs, even if the other people are in the wrong.
责任在父母身上。
And the burden's on the parents.
我不知道。
I don't know.
我们继续吧。
Let's move on.
作为父母，大多数人都会同意，我们的道德责任不仅仅是让孩子活着、吃饱，还包括保护他们。
Well, mean, as parents, most people would agree that our moral obligation goes beyond just simply keeping children alive and fed, that it involves, like, protecting them as well.
所以我不明白，为什么你会对那些对没有保护孩子的人有意见的人生气，而那个孩子最终受到了伤害，你却对我们生气，而不是对那个没能保护孩子的人生气。
And so I don't know how you can be mad at other people who have an opinion on someone not protecting their child and that child ends up harmed and that you're angry at us, but not at the person who failed to protect their
好吧，我最后说一句。
Well, I'll end with this.
这就是让你听《山间谋杀案》时生气的原因吗？
That's the thing that set you off listening to Mountain Murders?
你坚持了这么久。
You made it all this time.
是的。
Yes.
你坚持了这么久。
You made it all this time.
为了你。
For you.
经历了这么多事情。
Through all the things.
鼓掌。
Clap.
鼓掌。
Clap.
经历了这么多事情。
And through all the things.
好的。
Alright.
但谢谢你一直以来的收听。
But thank you for having been a listener.
是的。
Yeah.
我们很感激你。
We appreciate you.
我们很感激你。
We appreciate you.
抱歉。
Sorry.
我们太恶心了。
We're disgusting.
我现在感觉很不舒服。
I I feel gross right now.
是吗？
You do?
是的。
Yeah.
好的。
Okay.
对。
Yeah.
没错。
That's right.
那我可以用四零九喷一下。
Well, I can spray down with some four zero nine.
粘在上面了。
Sticking to it.
或者用那种强力去油剂。
Or some grease lightning.
你现在需要更多的强力清洁剂。
Now you need some more purple power.
我需要点东西。
I need something.
你需要那种强效的。
You're need the strong stuff.
我需要那个带笑脸的小刷子，或者类似的什么东西。
I'm gonna need the little smiley mister scrubby brush or whatever.
对。
Yeah.
就是那个笑脸刷子。
The little smiley face brush.
把手指放进去的那个。
Put the little finger holds.
对。
Yeah.
这个你可能需要魔术擦。
You might need a magic eraser for this.
这个用魔术擦也没用。
There is no magic eraser for this.
相信我。
Trust me.
我查过了。
I've looked into it.
迪伦，这周我们暂停一下真实犯罪案件。
Dylan, we are taking a break this week from true crime.
过去几周我们讲了一些非常沉重的案子，比如伊芙琳·博斯韦尔案。
We have covered in the last few weeks some very heavy cases, the Evelyn Boswell case.
说实话，那个案子让我有点吃不消。
And I'll be honest, that case kind of took it out of me.
感觉就像被抽走了精气神一样。
Like it took the wind down of my sails a little bit.
嗯，那个案子确实很难深入挖掘，因为它真的……
Well, that was a really hard case to go into a deep dive on because it kind of really
在那之前，我们还讲了拉丽莎·拉德案。
Before that, we had the Raleisha Rudd case.
怎么
How
这些涉及儿童的犯罪案件，真的让人心力交瘁。
about These these crime cases involving children, they really do take their toll.
天哪。
Gosh.
那真是个可怕的故事。
That was a terrible story.
所以我们要稍微休息一下，换个心情，如果你愿意的话。
So we're gonna take a little break, have a little palate cleanser, if you will.
下周我们会带着一个我正在处理的全新真实犯罪案件回来。
And next week, we'll be back with a brand new true crime case I'm working on.
非常有趣的故事。
Very interesting story.
对我来说算是个新案子。
Kind of an like a new to me case.
所以我想和大家分享一下。
So I would like to share it with everybody.
我们要读一些听众的故事。
We are gonna, read through some listener stories.
迪伦，好久不见了。
Dylan, it's been a minute.
有一些人给我们发了邮件，还在我们的Mountain Murders Instagram账号上发了私信，
We have had some folks send us emails, shoot us a DM at our Mountain Murders Instagram account,
还有
and
我来给你读一些。
I'm gonna read you some of these.
你准备好听听众的故事了吗？
Are you ready for listener stories?
他们一直在给你发私信呢。
They've been all up in your DMs.
你知道吗，挺有意思的。
You know, it's funny.
我前几天还在想，不知道她有没有足够的听众故事来凑一期节目，因为我特别喜欢听听众们分享的故事。
I thought just the other day, I wonder if she has enough listener stories for an episode because I absolutely love to hear our stories from our listeners.
我也很喜欢听听众们的故事，Dylan。
I love to list I love to hear from our listeners as well, Dylan.
他们真的太棒了。
They're so awesome.
我们身边有这么多优秀的人。
We have so many great people out there.
最近Sarah和Amy给我发了一些消息，我特别喜欢读这些。
Sarah, Amy have recently sent me some messages, and I just love to read through those.
大家会给我发一些有趣的小视频或者表情包，我真的很感激。
People will send me little funny videos or memes, and I always appreciate that.
或者有人会说你很恶心。
Or people will tell you you're disgusting.
或者我会收到一封充满仇恨的信，说我是一个卑鄙、恶心的人。
Or I get a hate ful note that I'm a despicable, disgusting human being.
这倒没什么。
Which is fine.
我的意思是，你知道的。
I mean, you know.
对。
Yeah.
我们什么都想要。
We we we want it all.
就像人行道上的虫子一样把我的肠子挤出来。
Just squish my guts out like a worm on the sidewalk.
我真是可恶。
I'm despicable.
我们想要互动。
We want interactions.
当然。
Sure.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
好了，迪伦。
Alright, Dylan.
我对这些很期待。
I am excited about these.
有些简直太疯狂了。
Some of them are off the chain.
好的。
Okay.
就像我之前说的，好吧。
Like I had okay.
这挺有意思的。
This is interesting.
其实有两位听众，两位不同的听众，每人给我发来了两个故事。
I actually had two listeners, two separate listeners both send me two stories each.
哦。
Oh.
对。
Yeah.
但其中一个故事的标题是“史上最佛罗里达的故事”。
But one of those was titled the most Florida stories ever.
所以我迫不及待想把这封邮件读给你听。
And so I cannot wait to read that email to you.
哦，哇。
Oh, wow.
那个肯定是个经典。
That one's gotta be a classic.
没错。
Right.
光是那个标题就够吸引我了。
I mean, just the title alone got my attention.
好。
Alright.
那我们就从这里开始吧。
So let's begin here.
五年来，我一直帮忙照顾我的保姆罗斯，她患有痴呆症。
For five years, I helped care for my nanny, Rose, who had dementia.
大部分时间是在白天，比如早上8点到下午4点，但有几次，我妈妈不在的时候，我晚上也照顾她。
Mostly during the day, like 8AM to 4PM, but a few times, I took care of her overnight when my mom wasn't there.
我晚上待在那里特别害怕，我讨厌那样。
I got so freaked out staying overnight, I hated it.
我妈妈住在一个偏僻的地方，房子四周都是大树。
My mom lives in the middle of nowhere, and the house is completely surrounded by huge trees.
很多个晚上，我会醒来，听到奶奶卧室里有人在说话。
Many nights, I would wake up and hear talking in my grandma's bedroom.
我走进去，她就在一片漆黑中跟不知道什么东西说话。
I would go in there, and she would be talking to who knows what in the pitch black.
我问她的时候，她总是说，引用一下，我在跟这些男孩或那些小男孩说话。
When I would ask, she would always say, quote, I'm talking to these boys or those little boys.
哦，天哪。
Oh, wow.
有天晚上我醒来，发现她站在我旁边，盯着睡在沙发上的我看。
I woke up to her standing over me and staring at me as I slept on the couch one night.
还有一晚，我凌晨两点左右被敲玻璃的声音吵醒。
Another night, I woke up at like 2AM to a knocking on the glass.
我害怕又困惑地四处张望。
I looked around scared and confused.
他们有一扇带百叶窗的滑动玻璃门，我能看到有人站在门和百叶窗之间。
They have a sliding glass door with closed blinds, and I could see someone standing between the door and the blinds.
于是我拉开百叶窗，发现我的保姆正敲着玻璃，盯着外面的漆黑一片。
So I pushed the blinds back, and my nanny is just knocking on the glass, staring out into the pitch black.
这把我吓坏了。
It terrified me.
我都不敢碰她。
I was so afraid to touch her.
最后我抓住她的肩膀，问她干什么，她说：“我们得让那些小男孩进来。”
I finally held her shoulder and asked what she was doing and she said, quote, we need to let those little boys in.
我当时就想，绝对不行，哈哈。
I was like, hell, no, we don't, lol.
现在想起来还起鸡皮疙瘩。
I still get goosebumps thinking about it.
她对我妈和我姐也做过同样的事。
She's done the same thing to my mom and sister.
有一次他们带她去外州参加家庭聚会，全家都在同一个地方租了小木屋，我姐醒来发现我保姆——她们住一个房间——光着身子站在后门廊上。
Once they took her on a trip to a family reunion out of state, the family all rented cabins in the same area, my sister woke up to find my nanny, they were sharing a room, naked on the back porch.
我姐问她干什么，还试着帮她穿上睡袍。
My sister asked what she was doing and tried to help her get into a nightgown.
然后我的保姆开始大喊，你想赚钱就得让人看看你的屁股。
And my nanny started shouting, you got to show them your fanny if you wanna make money.
哦，天哪。
Oh, damn.
我们从来都不无聊。
We never have a dull moment.
这就是个标志，杰米。
And that is sign, Jamie.
天哪。
Damn.
保姆在赚钱呢，伙计。
Nanny getting that bag, son.
我好久没听人把屁股叫成fanny了。
I haven't heard people refer to their bottom as a fanny in a while.
是啊。
No.
就是
It's
不是那样的。
Not like that.
我们得把“fanny”这个词带回来。
We need to bring fanny back.
说到痴呆症，就我所见，虽然它没有直接影响到我，但我确实看到它给那些照顾亲人、亲戚的人带来了多大的影响。
Now dementia is just a from what I've seen, I've never had it directly impact me, but I certainly see how much it impacts people that deal with this with loved ones, relatives.
这真的很难办，你知道吗，因为你永远不知道那个人到底在想什么。
It's a really tricky thing, you know, because you never know exactly what the person's really thinking about.
但现在我在想，也许那层纱越来越薄了，她说的那些男孩，到底是她过去记忆里的，还是她真的看到了什么。
But now I wonder if maybe the veil's getting a little thin, if that's just something that she's thinking about, you know, from the past or if she's really seeing some boys.
我不会让那些男孩进来的。
I'm not gonna let the boys in.
不。
No.
你会让那些小男孩进来吗？
Are you gonna let the little boys in?
我不会冒险的。
I'm not gonna take a chance.
嗯，她反复提到那些小男孩，确实让人费解。
Well, the fact that she's repeatedly Yeah.
她反复提到那些小男孩，真是让人摸不着头脑。
Made reference to some little boys is mystifying.
挺瘆人的。
It's creepy.
好吧。
Alright.
那你准备好听下一个故事了吗？
So are you ready for our next story?
这是来自Courtney的。
This is from Courtney.
她发了两部分。
She sent two parts.
第一部分。
Part one.
我那时候17岁。
So I'm 17 years old.
我在百思买工作，那个防损员也在一个俱乐部上班。
I was working at Best Buy, and the loss prevention guy also worked at this club.
他让我和一个朋友——一个只是朋友的男生——过去，说会确保我能进去，因为我还没到法定年龄。
He tells me and this friend, a dude who was just a friend, to come out and he would make sure I got in, sing as I was underage.
我朋友本来要在那里跟我碰面，所以我就一个人先去了。
My friend was supposed to meet me there, so I was riding solo deep.
跟大多数俱乐部一样，我所在的地方不是城里最好的区域。
Like most clubs, I was not on the best side of town.
我在停车场等啊等，等我的朋友，结果一直没来。
I'm there in the parking lot waiting and waiting for my friend, nothing.
那是1995年，所以还没有手机。
This is 1995, so there are no cell phones.
我开着我那辆红色的小Geo Metro掀背车，到最近的有灯光的加油站，用公用电话。
I drive my little red Geo metro hatchback over to the closest well lit gas station to use the payphone.
现在我能说这是夜店黄金年代吗？
Now can I say this is prime club years?
95年？
'95?
那时候正是最火的时候。
This is when it was happening.
我要给那辆红色Geo Metro点个赞。
I wanna give a shout out to the Red Geo Metro.
对。
Yeah.
我知道。
I know.
这真是个九十年代的故事。
This is such a nineties story.
作为一个17岁的少年，我当时没觉得半夜独自在贫民区用该死的公用电话有什么问题。
As a 17 year old, I didn't see the issue with being alone at midnight in the hood using a fucking payphone.
我下车，打完电话，赶紧跳回那辆老式Metro车里，然后砰的一声。
I get out of the car, use the phone, hop my ass back in the old metro, and bam.
一个家伙走过来，打开副驾驶门，拿枪指着我，说：“把你所有的钱都给我。”
Dude walks up, opens the passenger side of the car, and points a gun at me, quote, give me all your money.
把那个戒指给我。
Give me that ring.
把手表给我。
Give me that watch.
把那本CD册子给我，还有车钥匙。
Give me that book of CDs, and give me your car keys.
天哪。
Damn.
他要把她的CD夹拿走了。
He's gonna take her CD folder.
我赶紧把东西都递给他。
I'm just handing shit over as fast as I can.
那个戒指很小，估计连20美元都不值。
The ring, it was tiny, not even worth $20, I'm sure.
那块表，是个化石表，还不是我的。
The watch, a fossil watch that didn't belong to me.
那些CD，我当时正迷乡村音乐，所以他拿走了好多乔治·斯特雷特、克林特·布莱克、贾德斯的歌。
The CDs, I was in my country music stage, so he got a lot of George Strait, Clint Black, the Judds, etcetera.
好吧。
Okay.
那听起来真是超棒的CD收藏，他根本不配拥有。
Well, that sounds like a bomb ass CD collection, and he did not deserve this.
他自己。
Himself.
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她倒是挺麻利地把别人的手表交出去了。
She was quick to hand over somebody else's watch.
这精选的音乐收藏。
This curated collection of of musics.
这会有多吓人？
How scary would this be?
对吧？
Right?
突然之间，你就进入了那种派对模式。
Just out of nowhere, you're you're in club mode.
非常吓人。
Very scary.
你本来是想开心的。
You're trying to have fun.
你脑子里什么都没想，你知道，暴力什么的，根本没想过。
You're not thinking about anything, you know, violent or anything like that.
然后突然之间，你就成了受害者。
And just out of nowhere, you're becoming a victim.
在那边城区，我觉得他对我的音乐类型本来就不感兴趣。
Being on that side of town, I don't think he was interested in my kind of music anyway.
我身上只有20美元，给了他，最后还有我的车钥匙。
I only had $20 on me, gave that to him, and lastly, my car keys.
他下车跑掉，把我的钥匙扔在加油站旁边的草地上，跑的时候还把我的20美元掉在了地上。
He gets out and takes off running and throws my keys in the grassy area next to the gas station and dropped my $20 on the ground while running away.
有个好心人找到了我的车钥匙，我捡起我的20美元放回了后口袋。
Some nice man found my car keys, and I picked up my 20 and put it in my back pocket.
我本来想说报警了，但我觉得我当时太慌乱了，只想赶紧离开那里。
I was about to say I called the cops, but I think I was so frazzled I just wanted to get out of there.
这个混蛋本来可以杀了我的，为了什么？
This motherfucker could have just killed me or and for what?
一些乔治·斯特雷特的演唱会门票。
Some George Strait seats.
啥都没有。
Not shit.
这就是原因。
That's why.
我心爱的乔治·斯特雷特套装？
My beloved George Strait box set?
是的。
Yes.
你可以拿走。
You can have it.
经历了这一切，我只想去个安全的地方。
After all of that, I just wanted to go somewhere safe.
我去了我朋友的公寓。
I went to my friend's apartment.
虽然那里还在贫民区，但至少我不是一个人。
And while it was still in the hood, I wasn't alone.
但为什么我第二天早上醒来回家时，四个轮胎全被划破了？
But why did I wake up to go home the next morning and all four of my tires were slashed?
到现在我都不知道是谁干的。
I have no idea who did it to this day.
可能是我朋友的哥哥，因为他是个不稳定的混蛋。
It was probably my friend's brother because he was an unstable piece of shit.
快进到十六年后，我在废品场工作。
Fast forward to sixteen years later, and I'm working at a scrap yard.
现在还在那里工作。
Still work still where I work today.
哦，对。
Oh, yeah.
她是管事的头头。
She's the head bitch in charge.
哦，哇。
Oh, wow.
考特尼，就是那个管事的女老大。
Courtney, head bitch in charge.
对。
Yeah.
她就是个女老大。
She is a HBIC.
所以我在废品场工作，正在给一个顾客付钱。
So I'm working at a scrap yard, and I am paying a customer.
当我看到这个男人的时候，我就知道他就是那个抢劫我的人。
When I looked at this man, I knew he was the man that robbed me.
他那双淡褐色的眼睛我永远忘不了，而且他给我一种特别奇怪的、不安的感觉。
He had these hazel eyes that I will never forget, plus he gave me the strangest uneasy feeling.
没有任何东西能改变我的想法。
There wasn't a single thing that could change my mind.
既然我知道了他的名字，我就上网搜了一下，发现他因为同样的行为在同一时间、同一地区对另一个女孩做过，还被逮捕过。
Now that I had his name, I googled him and saw that he had been arrested for doing the same shit, same time frame, in the same area to another girl.
幸好，有一份禁止收购废品的名单，上面列了那些被抓到偷废品的人，他就在名单上。
Thankfully, a no scrap list was put out for the people that have been caught stealing scrap, and he was on it.
我们很痛快地让他滚蛋，永远别再来。
We had the joy of telling him to fuck off and not ever come back.
对。
Yes.
你看，最后她把他给镇住了。
See, in the end, she strong armed him.
那太吓人了。
That's very scary.
确实吓人。
It is scary.
过了这么多年再见到那个人。
To see that person all those years later.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yes.
你只要知道这一点。
And just know that this.
你对我做了这件事。
You did this thing to me.
我小时候你吓到我了。
You scared me when I was young.
而且，你知道，说不定你当时还可能杀了我，或者伤害我。
And for, you know, for all I know, you could have killed me or harm or hurt me.
这让我想起有一次我去镇上的社区学院做头发。
This reminds me of one time I had gone to the community college in town to get my hair did.
因为美容专业的学生会给你剪头发、染头发、挑染头发。
Because the cosmetology students would, you know, cut your hair, dye your hair, highlight your hair.
你还可以做指甲。
You could get your nails did.
对吧？
Right?
你可以做所有这些美容项目，价格非常便宜，因为他们是学生。
You could get all these like, beauty treatments, I guess you could say, at a very reduced price because they're students.
我认识那个项目里的人，她说，上来吧，我给你修剪一下头发。
And I know someone in the program and she was like, come up and I'll trim your hair.
那时候我还很年轻。
So and I was very young.
我当时大概二十、二十一岁吧。
I was, you know, probably 20, 21 at this time.
去修剪头发，出来的时候。
Go get my hair trimmed, come back out.
有人进了我的车，可能是我自己的错。
Someone had gotten into my car and it was probably my fault.
我可能没锁车门。
I probably didn't lock the doors.
那也不是你的错。
Well, that's not your fault.
因为我没有，你知道，我们住在一个小镇，那时候犯罪不是什么大事。
Because I didn't you know, we lived in a small town and crime just wasn't a big deal back then.
对。
Yeah.
但不管怎样，他们偷东西就是他们的错，他们就是混蛋。
But still, it's their fault for being a piece of shit.
对。
Right.
所以有人偷了我的CD，就像那种笔记本，几乎像一个文件夹。
So someone stole my CDs, like one of those note like a a binder, almost like a trapper keeper.
我在想那叫什么。
I'm trying to think of what you would call that.
是大号的还是半号的？
Is it a big one or is it the half ones?
你知道，就是那种大的。
You know, it's like a big one.
哦，哇。
Oh, wow.
你知道，那种可以放四张CD左右的
You know, that has like you can put four CDs or so per
正反面。
Front and back.
里面的塑料夹层。
Plastic slip that's inside.
对。
Yeah.
对吧？
Right?
装满CD的那种。
Full of CDs.
大部分都是刻录的，因为你知道，那时候可以刻录CD。
Most of them were burned because, you know, you could burn CDs back then.
哦，对。
Oh, yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
而且我上大学的时候，我的电脑有刻录机。
And I had gone to college and my computer had a CD burner.
你知道，我当时从LimeWire下载各种歌曲，染上各种病毒，还刻录CD。
And you know I was downloading all the LimeWire songs, catching all kinds of viruses, and burning CDs.
那时候我们根本不用花钱。
And we didn't pay for shit back then.
而且我
And I
字迹很特别，我还会给音乐贴上奇怪的标签。
had very distinct handwriting, and I would also label my music, like, weird stuff.
你知道，就是那种吃冰淇淋时听的歌，或者随便什么。
You know, like songs to eat ice cream to or, you know, whatever.
所以几年后，夏天我在一家餐厅当服务员，认识了一个年轻女孩。
So fast forward a few years later, I am waiting tables in the summertime at this restaurant and befriend this, you know, a young woman.
我高中时
I had gone to high
跟她同校，但当时不太熟，不过后来我们开始一起玩。
school with her and had not really known her that well back then, but we kinda started hanging out together.
有天晚上，我们正要去某个地方，她说，挑张CD吧。
And one night we were on our way someplace and she was like, pick a CD.
我打开她的小CD包，就是你说的那种半开式的小套子。
And I opened up her little CD, one of those little half half sleeves that you're talking about.
对。
Right.
那种套子。
A sleeve.
原来叫这个名字。
That's what it's called.
所以我打开那个CD包，翻了一下，发现里面有我三四张CD，都是之前被偷的。
So I I opened that up and flipping through, and there's like three or four of my CDs that were in that case stolen.
你当时说什么了吗？
Did you say something?
说了。
Yes.
你是不是问她，这些是从哪儿来的？
Was you were you like, where'd you get these from?
对。
Yes.
然后她说，是我前男友给的。
And she said, my ex boyfriend.
然后她笑了笑，说“嗯，这倒不让我意外”。
And then she kinda giggled and was like, well, that doesn't really surprise me.
他就是个烂人，老是撬别人车门偷东西。
He's a piece of crap, and he was always breaking into people's cars.
所以他说偷了，我一点都不意外。
So I'm not surprised that he stole
你的CD。
Your CDs.
CD。
CDs.
那么小。
In such small
他的CD。
his CDs.
然后她说，我老是怀疑他。
And she's like, I always question him.
比如，这东西你从哪儿弄来的？
Like, where did you get this?
很明显，那不是你的笔迹。
Obviously, that's not your handwriting.
对。
Right.
你的笔迹看起来像女生的。
Your handwriting looks like that of a female's.
对。
Right.
对。
Right.
天哪，你知道乔治的前男友，那个叫杰森的混蛋，在两三年前偷了我的CD。
Man, you know So George's ex boyfriend, this dirtbag named Jason, had stolen my CDs, like, two or three years before.
你知道，以前一张超棒的刻录CD比任何买来的东西都珍贵。
You know, a bomb ass burnt CD back in the day was coveted more than anything you could buy.
天哪，混音带？
Man, a mixtape?
对。
Right.
一张好听的。
A Something good
就是那种让你喜欢的混音带，或者他们给你刻一张CD。
that makes you like a mixtape or they burn you a CD.
那感觉真的很浪漫。
There was just something so romantic about that.
我有一张。
I had a Hint.
我有一张CD。
I had a CD.
名字叫《脱裤神器》。
The title was The Panty Dropper.
我猜你肯定有。
I bet you did.
是的，我确实有。
I did.
那真的叫这个名字吗？
Is that really what it was called?
对。
Yeah.
是你自己刻的歌，还是别人帮你做的？
Did you put the songs on it or did someone make it for you?
哦，我自己做的。
Oh, I made it.
里面有什么歌？
What was on there?
这个我不能告诉你。
I can't tell you that.
你只能自己去听
You just have to listen to
哦，好的。
Oh, okay.
那这样我就可以做了。
Then that lets me do it.
当然，这音乐肯定会让我哭得稀里哗啦的。
Definitely, it's music that's just gonna dry my shit up.
不。
No.
不。
No.
不。
No.
不，姑娘。
No, girl.
你走在那儿就会想，这是怎么回事？
You'd be just walking down through there and be like, what happened?
亲爱的，对不起。
Honey, I'm sorry.
但他叫什么名字？
But what's his name?
乔？
Joe?
那不是你喜欢的歌手吗？
Ain't that the singer you like?
哦，你不喜欢乔？
Oh, you don't like Joe?
他就叫乔？
Just Joe is his name?
对。
Mhmm.
是的。
Yeah.
那对我来说可不行。
I that's not gonna do it for me.
哦，那好吧。
Oh, well.
路德·范德罗斯？
Luther Vandross?
嗯哼。
Mm-mm.
不。
No.
有才华，但我觉得不行。
Talented, but I don't don't think so.
好吧，那你的内裤就继续穿着吧。
Well, guess your panties is gonna stay on then.
韦恩·牛顿，我的内裤要……天哪。
Wayne Newton, my panties is gonna Oh god.
你知道为什么吗？
You know why?
因为我是韦恩的超级粉丝。
Because I'm a Wayneiac.
你在干什么？
What are you doing?
好的。
Okay.
或者汤姆·琼斯。
Or Tom Jones.
你准备好听第二部分了吗？
Are you ready for part two?
考特尼有第二部分。
Courtney has a part two.
是的。
Yes.
我想听考特尼故事的下半部分。
I wanna hear part two of Courtney's story.
那是1999年。
The year is 1999.
我跟我那个有暴力倾向的混蛋男朋友住在一起。
I have an abusive piece of shit boyfriend that I live with.
我在一家宠物诊所当前台。
I work the front desk at a vet clinic.
那是十一月。
It's November.
有个卡罗莱纳黑豹队的球员带着他的两只小狗来打疫苗和做检查。
One of the Carolina Panthers players comes in to get his two puppies shots and their checkups.
拉特里斯是一只全黑的比特犬。
Latrice is an all black pit bull.
泰是一只浅黄和白色相间的比特犬，鼻子上的斑点特别可爱。
Tay is a fawn and white pit bull with the cutest freckle nose.
它们俩大概都14岁了。
They are both about 14 old.
我一看到Tay就爱上了它。
Now I saw Tay and fell in love.
我需要这只狗。
I needed this dog.
我当时经历了很多波折，我的心和她连在了一起。
I was going through so much turmoil and my heart just connected with her.
它们去了诊室，打了疫苗，做了检查，然后该结账回家了。
They went to the exam room, got their shots and exams, and it's time to check out and go home.
那个球员付了钱，把Tay递给我，说，我知道它在你这儿会过得好。
The player pays for the services and hands me Tay and says, I know she will have a good home with you.
不会吧。
No way.
天哪，我写这个的时候都哭了。
Jesus, I'm tearing up as I write this.
我简直不敢相信。
I could not believe it.
那是我很久以来最开心的时候。
I was the happiest I'd been in a long time.
大约一周后，我下班回家，打开电视，你猜我看到了什么？
About a week later, I get home from work, turn on the TV, and guess what I see?
原来，把泰伊给我的那个卡罗莱纳黑豹队球员是雷·卡鲁斯。
Well, the Carolina Panther that gave me Tay was Ray Carruth.
不会吧。
No way.
他居然
He had
因为涉嫌杀害怀孕的女友而被捕了。
been arrested for having his pregnant girlfriend killed.
我想他当时是在处理掉所有东西，因为他知道下周自己会做什么。
I guess he was trying to downsize everything he had because he knew what he was going to do the following week.
他做的事太可恶了。
He is a horrible person for what he did.
别误会我的意思。
Don't get me wrong.
我明白这一点。
I recognize that.
但他为我做的，我永远不会忘记。
But what he did for me, I will never forget.
不久之后，我和泰伊把那个有暴力倾向的男朋友赶走了，我们有了自己的住处，她一直过得很好，直到12岁那年被安乐死。
Shortly after, me and Tay kicked the abusive boyfriend to the curb, got our own place, and she lived a good life until she was put down at 12 years old.
那是2011年的事了。
That was back in 2011.
她是最好的狗，再也不会有像她一样的了。
She was the best dog, and there will never be another like her.
天哪。
Damn.
这太疯狂了。
That's crazy.
对吧？
Right?
哇。
Wow.
她居然和一个杀手混在一起。
What she's rubbing elbows with a killer.
嗯，你知道，在夏洛特，碰到纳斯卡赛车手并不稀奇。
Well, you know, in Charlotte, it's not uncommon to bump into NASCAR drivers.
我是说，我认识很多人，他们在外面玩的时候会说，哦，对。
I mean, I've known plenty of people who've been out and about and they're like, oh, yeah.
小戴尔在酒吧里。
Dale Junior was in the bar.
我看到他在那儿闲逛，诸如此类的。
I saw him hanging out, whatever.
或者橄榄球运动员、篮球运动员。
Or football players, basketball players.
对。
Yeah.
你知道吗？
You know?
那会很疯狂，因为他们在人群中会非常显眼。
That would be wild because they'd really stand out in a crowd.
对。
Yeah.
因为你不会意识到那些家伙到底有多高。
Because you don't realize how tall those guys really are.
因为即使是矮个子也有六英尺二英寸、五英寸。
Because even the short guys are, you know, six two five
我的
My
六尺六。
Six six.
我妈妈的男朋友，在一起很多年了，我把他当继父看待，因为他们在一起十四年，所以他对我成长影响很大。
Mom's boyfriend for many many years, and I consider him to be like my stepdad because they were together like fourteen years, so he had a good hand in raising me.
他的父母住在北卡罗来纳州的加斯托尼亚。
His parents lived in Gastonia, North Carolina.
詹姆斯·沃西的妈妈是他们邻居，你有时候会看到他在外面洗他妈妈的车。
And James Worthy's mother was their neighbor, and you would sometimes see him outside washing his mom's car.
真不错。
Nice.
他站起来的时候，是个大个子。
And when he would stand up, he was this huge guy.
对。
Yeah.
大概六尺六的样子。
Like six six or something.
橄榄球运动员都是怪物。
And football players are monsters.
就像那些特别显眼的篮球运动员。
Like just stand out basketball players.
然后你就会觉得，天哪。
So and you're like, oh my gosh.
他真是个巨人。
He's a giant.
对。
Yeah.
我来到南卡罗来纳州的沃福德学院，参加黑豹队的训练营。
I came down to Wofford College here in South Carolina for the Panthers training camp.
那些家伙，我们拿着那种小小的VIP通行证。
And those guys, we had, like, the little VIP pass.
我哥们帮我搞到的。
My dude my buddy hooked me up.
他和百威的那个人关系不错。
He was cool with the Budweiser guy.
而且那些人真的特别高大。
And those guys are just so big.
对，这就是关键。
Well, that's the thing.
我觉得很多时候我们都忘了这些球员有多高大。
I feel like a lot of times we forget how huge these players are.
是的。
Yeah.
你在电视上看他们，但当你真正在现实中看到他们时，你会觉得，天哪。
You see them on TV, but when you actually see them in real life, you're like, holy crap.
我们去了那个鸵鸟场。
We've the ostrich field.
非常高大。
Huge.
在普通人旁边的时候。
Around regular sized people.
就算是在球场或赛场上看起来个子小的球员，其实也都是大个子。
Even the guys who look small on the field or the court, they're big guys.
嗯，考特尼，你那段经历真是够传奇的。
Well, Courtney, you have a hell of a story there.
雷·卡鲁斯。
Ray Carruth.
那太疯狂了。
That's crazy.
不过我很高兴，听起来泰伊救了你，而且在某些方面，你也救了她。
But I am glad that Tay it sounds like she rescued you, and in some ways, you rescued her.
对。
Yeah.
我觉得她……我们大家都……
I think she's We all
互相救了对方。
saved each other.
她跟你在一起，肯定比跟那堆烂事在一起有更好的未来，因为那个人的整个人生都毁了。
She certainly had a better, future with you than around that craziness and that mess because, I mean, that guy's whole life unraveled.
真是个蠢货。
What a dumbass.
对。
Yeah.
如果你对雷·卡鲁斯的故事感兴趣，我们几年前做过一个多集的节目，我记得是两集还是三集，讲的就是那个案子。
And if you're interested in hearing the Ray Carruth story, we did a multi part I believe it was a two parter or maybe three parts on that that case a few years ago.
所以你可以去翻翻以前的存档，听听看。
So maybe dig that out of the archives, check it out.
我知道那小子不在那个后备箱里。
I know that boy ain't in that trunk.
天哪。
Oh, goodness.
好的。
Alright.
这封邮件来自克里斯蒂。
So this email comes from Christy.
她说，她的狗有三次突然把她从睡梦中弄醒，然后趴在她身上，把胸和前腿放在她的胸口，抬头看着房间的角落，每次都是同一个角落，然后开始咆哮，好像那里有什么东西。
She says, my dog has on three different occasions woke me up from nowhere, positioned herself over me, like put her chest and front legs over my chest, and looked up at the corner of the room, it's the same corner each time, and started growling like something was there.
然后她安抚了狗，大约五分钟后，狗站起来，蜷缩在她身边，像个小球一样，又睡着了。
I then calmed her down, and after like five minutes, she stands up, curls up next to me like a little ball, and falls back to sleep.
这是你经常从养猫养狗的人那里听到的故事。
This is a common story you hear from people with cats and dogs.
而且它们经常抬头看房间的角落，你不得不怀疑它们看到了什么，因为它们的反应就是这样。
And often they look up into the corner of a room, and you just have to wonder what are they seeing because this is the kind of reaction they have.
迪伦，你相信动物能看到我们看不到的东西吗？
Do you believe animals can see beyond the veil, Dylan?
你是想告诉我这个吗？
Is that what you're trying to tell me?
对。
Yeah.
我觉得，也许它们确实能看到。
I think I think maybe they can.
好的。
Okay.
因为我觉得，尤其是在现代，我觉得人类以前可能拥有更多能力。
Because I I see, I think as a and especially in the modern day, I I think humans could have more I think humans had more abilities back in the day.
也许只是更多的经历？
Just more experiences perhaps?
我们现在很少能有平静的头脑。
Get We what you're rarely have quiet minds today.
我们总是在听点什么、看点东西、听点什么。
We're always hearing something, watching something, and listening to something.
总有东西在分散我们的注意力。
There's always something to distract us.
我们很少能有几个小时安静地坐着，让大脑自由地想象各种可能性，可以这么说吧？
Rarely do we just have hours where we're sitting in quiet stillness and opening our brains up to possibilities, I guess you could say?
嗯，是的。
Well, yeah.
再看看我们接触的东西，各种化学物质，还有人类造成的环境问题。
And you look at our exposures, the various chemicals and, you know, environmental things like caused by humans.
你可以看看研究，比如氟化物对体内松果体的影响。
And you you can look in the studies like fluoride on the pineal gland in your body.
我听说当你停止使用氟化物后，会开始做非常生动的梦。
I've heard that when you stop using fluoride, start having these very vivid dreams.
对。
Yeah.
我不知道
And I don't know
这是真是假，但我确实听好几个人这么说过。
if that's fact or fiction, but I have heard multiple people say that.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
他们改用不含氟的牙膏，而牙膏正是人们摄入氟的一个途径。
They go with a non fluoride toothpaste, which is a place where people get fluoride.
大家往往忽略了这一点，而且还会避开自来水之类的。
They kind of forget about and, you know, get off tap water and things like that.
他们说，你会开始做非常非常生动的梦。
And they say that, you know, you start having very, very vivid dreams.
你的思维似乎也更清晰了。
Your mind just seems to work better.
所以我也说不准。
So I don't know.
也许我该做的就是停用含氟牙膏。
Maybe that's what I need to do is eliminate the fluoride toothpaste.
对。
Yeah.
它真的对你有害吗？
Is it really bad for you?
我一直以为那只是阴谋论。
Know I always just thought that was conspiracy theory.
嗯，我确实深入研究过氟化物这个话题。
Well, I've I've been down the fluoride rabbit hole.
很快就会发现里面非常疯狂和离谱。
It it gets very, very wild and crazy pretty quickly.
但你知道吗，它以前是工业副产品，处理掉还得花钱。
But you know that used to be an industrial byproduct they had to pay to get rid of.
然后有人，天哪，我想说是叫洛克菲勒吧，但可能我记错了，想出了个天才主意，说这玩意儿能对牙齿有好处。
And then they had to, you know, someone had to, gosh, I wanna say a rocker filler, but maybe I'm wrong, had the genius idea of that it could help people's teeth.
现在有科学证明它确实有帮助，比如那些能用到氟化物的社区，牙齿保健确实更好，或者说牙齿质量更好，随便你怎么说。
And now there is science to prove that it does help if, you know, in communities that have access to it have better, better dental care, but, you know, or dinner, dental quality, however you wanna say it.
但我是说，关于他们为什么要让所有市民都接触氟化物，有很多阴暗的阴谋论。
But I mean, there's a lot of dark theories out there as to why they expose all, you know, the all the citizens to fluoride.
他们为什么要来贫困乡村学校，让我们用氟化物漱口？
Why they would come to the poor country rural schools and make us do a little rinse with fluoride
对。
Yeah.
一年两次。
Like twice a year.
想治我们的“激浪牙”呗。
Trying to get rid of our Mountain Dew mouth.
那时候我们还是穷孩子。
When we were little poor kids.
我记得。
I remember that.
对。
Yeah.
我也是。
I do too.
好的。
Okay.
迪伦，再说一次，非常佛罗里达的故事。
Dylan, again, Very Florida Stories.
这封邮件确实引起了我的注意。
This email definitely got my attention.
你准备好了吗？
Are you ready?
两个非常佛罗里达的故事。
Two Very Florida Stories.
我说对了吗？
Did I say that right?
是松果体吗？
Pen is it pineal?
松果体？
Penial gland?
我一直说pineal，但可能我说错了，也许有人
I've always said pineal, but that's I probably don't Someone
在外面应该纠正我们。
out there should correct us.
打开你的第三只眼。
Get your third eye.
我甚至上过解剖生理学课。
I even took like a, you know, anatomy physiology class.
但我什么都说不出来。
I can't tell you shit.
你本来就不适合学那些。
You weren't cut out for that stuff.
对。
No.
嘿，我真的很佩服那些做护理、医生、医疗领域的人，我敢肯定我们的朋友Renee肯定也懂很多术语，对这些东西了解很多。
Hey, my hat's off to anyone in in nursing, doctors, medical field, even I'm sure our friend Renee probably has, you know, a lot of the terminology, knows a lot about all that stuff.
嗯，我确实记得一些拉丁语，比如前缀。
Well, I do remember some of the Latin, like the prefixes.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
但凡是跟人体或医学术语有关的东西，都特别多。
But there's a lot to anything dealing with the human body or medical terms.
那些我根本念不出来。
I can't pronounce any of the Yeah.
你能记住那些，真是了不起。
Hats off to you for remembering all that.
好的。
Okay.
准备好了吗？
Ready for this?
我25岁那年才知道关于我出生的一件非常重要的事。
I was 25 years old when I learned one very important detail about my birth.
大多数人都是在医院出生的。
Most people find out they were born in a hospital.
有些人在家里出生，还有少数戏剧性的人是在汽车后座出生的。
Some people were born at home, and a few dramatic souls are born in the backseat of a car.
等等。
Wait.
别告诉我你是在马桶里出生的。
Tell me you're not toilet baby.
我是在派对上出生的，约翰。
I was born in a party, John.
那是在威利·尼尔森的演唱会上。
It was at a Willie Nelson concert.
我倒希望是这样。
I wish.
不，迪伦。
No, Dylan.
我是在县监狱出生的。
I was born in county jail.
哦。
Oh.
而且不知怎么的，我父母一直没提过这事。
And somehow, my parents forgot to mention this.
那可真够离谱的。
Now that's pretty wild.
发现这件事是在一次家庭烧烤聚会上。
The discovery happened during a family cookout.
我们正围坐着吃汉堡，我叔叔随口说，你知道吗，就凭你出生的地方，你居然还挺正常的。
We were sitting around eating burgers when my uncle casually said, you know, considering where you were born, you've turned out pretty normal.
我笑了。
I laughed.
大家都笑了。
Everyone laughed.
然后我注意到没人停下来。
Then I noticed nobody had stopped laughing.
我就想，等等。
And I was like, wait.
你说考虑到我出生的地方是什么意思？
You know, what do you mean considering where I was born?
桌子周围一下子安静了。
The table got very quiet.
我妈突然对土豆沙拉产生了浓厚的兴趣。
My mother suddenly became fascinated with her potato salad.
我爸喝了一口茶，喝了很久。
My dad took a very long sip of tea.
我叔叔意识到自己不小心引爆了一个家庭秘密。
My uncle realized he had accidentally detonated a family secret.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
然后我就问，什么叫我在哪儿出生的？
And then I'm like, what do you mean where I was born?
最后，我妈叹了口气说，嗯，严格来说，你是在监狱里出生的。
Finally, my mom sighed and said, well, technically, you were born in jail.
我差点被汉堡噎住。
I nearly choked on a hamburger.
什么叫‘严格来说’？
What do you mean technically?
原来，二十五年前，我父母做了一连串可以说是糟糕透顶的人生选择。
As it turns out, twenty five years earlier, my parents had made what can only be described as a series of poor life choices.
他们那个‘聪明’的计划，就是去抢一个毒贩。
Their brilliant plan involved robbing a drug dealer.
先别急着问，他们可不是什么犯罪天才。
Now before you ask, no, they are not criminal masterminds.
犯罪天才不会被当场抓住，而我爸妈当场就被抓住了。
Criminal masterminds don't get called immediately, and my parents got caught immediately.
当时我妈正怀着我，这显然让执法部门对这件事印象更深刻了。
Mom was pregnant with me at the time, which apparently made the situation even more memorable for law enforcement.
我爸最终在监狱里服刑了十八个月。
Dad ended up serving eighteen months in prison.
我妈因为已服刑时间被释放，我出生后不久就出来了。
Mom received time served and was released shortly after I was born.
与此同时，婴儿时期的我在一个县级机构里来到这个世界，那里绝对不提供新生儿摄影服务。
Meanwhile, baby me entered the world in a county facility that definitely did not offer newborn photography packages.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
他们的妻子在一个小跳跳动物园里。
Their wife is in a little jump zoo.
那要是他们给婴儿拍了小犯人照片怎么办？
What if they took the little mug shots of the baby?
对。
Yeah.
那太棒了。
That would be awesome.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
所以，你知道，没有礼品店装饰，没有气球。
So, you know, no gift shop decorations, balloons.
没有“是个男孩”的牌子。
It's a boy sign.
你什么也得不到，
You're not gonna get any
那些都没有。
of that.
所以你妈妈当时怀着你在外面疯玩。
So your mom's out there wilding out, pregnant as hell with you.
你能想象在家庭聚会上听到这些，还得慢慢消化吗？
Now could you imagine hearing this at a family function and kinda having to digest all this?
当我问为什么没人告诉过我这个故事时，我父母看起来很尴尬。
When I asked why nobody had ever told me the story, my parents looked embarrassed.
我爸说，他们不想让这件事定义我的人生，这话挺暖心的。
My dad said, like, we didn't want that to define your life, which was sweet.
但话说回来，你怎么能忘了提你孩子是在监狱里出生的呢？
But also, how do you forget to mention that your child's literally born in jail?
这可不是什么小细节。
That's not exactly a minor detail.
这种信息应该早点说出来，也许在25岁之前就该知道了。
That's the kind of information that should come up maybe before age 25.
我不知道，可能幼儿园的时候就该说了。
I don't know, maybe around kindergarten.
就像，嘿，伙计，在你上学之前，告诉你个有趣的事。
Like, hey, buddy, before you start school, here's a fun fact.
最搞笑的是，如果你今天见到我父母，你绝对不会相信。
The funniest part is that if you met my parents today, you would never believe it.
我爸经营着一家成功的公司。
My dad owns a successful business.
我妈帮忙打理。
My mom helps run it.
他们参与社区活动，给当地慈善机构捐款，赞助青少年体育项目，而且，你知道，半个镇的人都认识他们。
They're involved in community events, donate to local charities, they sponsor youth sports programs, and, you know, half the town knows them by name.
人们会向他们请教。
People ask them for advice.
请教。
Advice.
就是那些曾经看着一个毒贩，心想，你知道什么听起来是个好主意吗？
The same people who once looked at a drug dealer and thought, you know what sounds like a great idea?
生活真是奇怪。
Life is weird.
我年轻的时候，以为成功的企业家一直都是负责任的大人。
When I was younger, I assumed successful business owners had always been responsible adults.
但现在我知道，他们有些人显然一开始就是个彻底的傻瓜。
But now I know some of them were apparently complete idiots first.
嗯，这很难说。
Well, you never know.
而且人们看那些年纪大的人，老年人，就只是用他们老了这个眼光去看。
And people look at older older folks, elderly people, and just, like, look at them through that lens of them being old.
但我告诉你，如果你跟他们聊十分钟，真正地聊，你很快就会发现的。
But I'm telling you, if you talk to them for ten minutes, like, really talk to them, you'll find out real quick.
很多时候
A lot of times
人们很疯狂？
People's wild?
他们比你想象中还要疯狂，还干过不少离谱的事。
They were wilder and crazier than you ever thought about being or got into some
真的，我们有些朋友特别疯。
really We had crazy some friends.
我们当时在
We were out on
一艘船上和一些朋友在一起，他们比我们大一点，听他们讲四十年前的事，真是大开眼界。
a boat with some friends and they're a little older than us and just hearing some stories about forty years ago what was going on.
对。
Yeah.
特别有意思。
Very funny stuff.
那真是无法无天。
It's the Wild West.
就像有个女人说，然后我醒来，发现他带了个老相好在里面，就盯着我看。
Like a woman saying, and then I woke up and he had some old girl in there just staring at me.
我就想，我无法想象醒来时发现一个陌生女人在汽车旅馆房间里盯着你看。
And I'm like, I can't imagine waking up and there's a strange woman staring at you in your motel room.
不。
No.
好吧。
Okay.
我肯定受不了
I would not be okay
那样。
with that.
所以，是的，人们确实干过一些疯狂的事。
So, yeah, people did some wild stuff.
好的。
Okay.
说实话，这是我父母教过我的最好的教训之一。
And honestly, that's one of the best lessons my parents ever taught me.
不是抢毒贩那部分。
Not the robbing a drug dealer part.
那个教训很简单。
That lesson's pretty straightforward.
别那么干。
Don't do that.
但真正的教训是，人是可以改变的。
But the real lesson is that people can change.
那对把我带到这个世界上的夫妻，在接下来的二十五年里，从糟糕透顶的决定变成了做好事。
The couple that brought me into the world through a spectacularly bad decisions for the next twenty five years making good ones.
我把你带进县监狱，也能把你带出来。
I brought you into county jail, and I can take you out.
嗯，不是。
Well, no.
我喜欢，我喜欢那个故事。
I like I like that story.
不。
No.
是真的。
It's true.
是真的。
It's true.
人是可以改变的。
People can change.
而且说实话，我觉得你爸说得对。
And, honestly, I think your dad was right.
那确实可能。
That really could.
有些人可能会让那件事定义他们的一生，就像他们天生就低人一等似的，或者让它玷污自己的名声，影响他们对自己的看法，可那明明是完全无法控制的事情。
Some people could let that define their lives like they had a leg, you know, a leg a leg down or something or, you know, or let it kind of be like a tarnish their reputation or the way they thought about themselves just from, you know, something completely beyond your control, obviously.
在监狱里出生。
Being born in jail.
这是不是最有佛罗里达特色的故事了？
Is that the most Florida story ever?
我觉得算得上数一数二了。
I think it's up there.
确实挺不错的。
It's pretty good.
我们还有
We have
另一个特别佛罗里达的故事。
another very Florida story.
那个故事是谁讲的？
Who was that story from?
她叫什么来着，我觉得她叫泰勒。
What her name's I think her name is Taylor.
好的。
Okay.
泰勒，谢谢你。
Thank you for that, Taylor.
谢谢你的分享。
Thank you for sharing
对。
Yeah.
是泰勒。
It's Taylor.
你最深、最黑暗的秘密。
Your deepest, darkest secret.
泰勒还有一个故事，这个挺有意思的，迪伦。
Now Taylor has another story, and this one is amusing, Dylan.
好的。
Okay.
我阿姨唐娜是大家最没想到需要干预的人。
My aunt Donna was the last person anybody expected to need an intervention.
她不是什么落魄的烂摊子。
She wasn't some washed up train wreck.
她不会把退休金赌光，也不会凌晨三点在QVC上买豆豆娃。
She wasn't gambling away her retirement or buying beanie babies off of QVC at three in the morning.
唐娜阿姨其实挺成功的。
Aunt Donna was pretty successful.
我是说，真的非常成功。
I mean, like, really successful.
她经营着一家医疗咨询公司，开奔驰，住漂亮的海景公寓，一年赚的钱比大多数我认识的人都多。
She owned a medical consulting business, drove a Mercedes, lived in a beautiful waterfront condo, and made more money in a year than most people I know.
唯一奇怪的是，她总是手头紧。
The only weird thing was that she was always broke.
我是说，一直如此。
And I mean, always.
每次家庭聚会，我们都会听到类似的话，比如‘哦，这个月手头有点紧’之类的。
Every family gathering, we'd hear some version of like, oh, well, my money's a little tight this month.
这完全说不通，因为她赚的钱都够买个小岛了。
Which made absolutely no sense because this woman made enough money to buy a small island.
后来有一天，我无意中发现了她的钱都花到哪里去了。
Then one day, I accidentally discovered where all of her money was going.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
你准备好了吗，迪伦？
Now are you ready for this, Dylan?
因为接下来这件事会让你大吃一惊。
Because this is going to surprise you.
是那些通灵热线吗？
Is it the psychic hotlines?
那些可挺贵的。
They get expensive.
我在帮她从iPad上打印东西的时候，突然弹出一个通知。
I was helping her print something from her iPad when a notification popped up.
先别急着评判我，我真不是故意偷看的。
Now before anybody judges me, I wasn't snooping.
那条消息就那么直接弹在屏幕上了。
The message literally appeared on the screen.
是一个叫卢卡的男的发的。
It was from a guy named Luca.
消息大概写着：宝贝，想你了。
The message said something like, miss you, baby.
再给我八千美元，别墅那边要用。
Need another $8,000 for the villa.
什么？
What?
还附带一张光膀子的自拍，这第一个危险信号。
Along with a shirtless selfie, red flag number one.
我实在忍不住好奇，结果发现，卢卡并不是唯一一个这样的人。
Curiosity got the better of me, and let's just say Luca wasn't the only one.
有马库斯、达科他，还有个叫CJ的私人教练，还有个男的照片看起来全是在豪华酒店房间里拍的。
There was a Marcus, a Dakota, some personal trainer named CJ, a guy whose picture appeared to have been taken entirely inside luxury hotel rooms.
好的。
Okay.
感觉就像唐娜阿姨收集了一堆来自世界各地的帅气无业男。
It was like aunt Donna had assembled an international collection of handsome unemployed men.
接下来的几天，我和表兄弟姐妹们一起算了一下经济损失，最后的数字吓死人。
Over the next few days, my cousins and I pieced together the financial damage, and the final number was horrifying.
几十万美元。
Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
旅行、房租、名牌手表、机票。
Trips, rent payments, designer watches, plane tickets.
有个人说他的狗要做手术需要钱。
One guy apparently needed money because his dog was having surgery.
唐娜阿姨就把钱给他了。
Aunt Donna sent him the money.
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