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我就知道我想和你在一起。
I knew I wanted to be with you.
所以我跟我妈说,就算我们最后只能住在一个很小的房子里,我也知道我想和他共度一生。
And so I was like to my mom, even if we end up living in a really tiny house, I know that I want to spend my life with him.
从一开始,我们就那么执着地去做你想做的任何事。
Even from the beginning, like, were so driven to do whatever you wanted to do.
我就知道,我们注定要在一起的事情一定会发生。
I just knew whatever we were meant to be was what was going to happen.
你想牵手吗?
You want hold hands?
对,我不擅长在公共场合秀恩爱,所以我就不牵了。
Yeah, I'm not good at PDA, so I'm going to not do that.
天哪。
Oh, my God.
你拒绝了我们的镜头。
You rejected our camera.
这就对了。
There you go.
欢迎收听《On Purpose》。
Welcome to On Purpose.
我是杰伊·谢蒂,非常感激你能来到这里。
My name is Jay Shetty, and I'm so grateful that you are here.
我一直致力于打造一个由有目标的人组成的社区。
I'm all about creating a community of purposeful people.
这些人想要找到自己的目标,并通过它来服务他人。
People who want to find their purpose and serve others through it.
我很兴奋能和你分享我的第一期节目。
I'm so excited to share my first ever episode with you.
感谢你的到来。
Thank you for being here.
希望你已经订阅、评分并留下了评论。
I hope you've subscribed, rated and reviewed.
这对我来说意义重大。
It would mean so much to me.
我希望这个播客是私人的、诚实的,并且是脆弱的。
I wanted this podcast to be personal, honest and vulnerable.
所以我先从介绍我的妻子开始。
So I'm starting off by introducing you to my wife.
她是我的目标伴侣,一直支持我度过一切。
She's my purpose partner and has stood by me through everything.
你会了解到我们如何相遇,是什么让我们合拍,以及我们的挑战和我们如何克服它们。
You will find out about how we met, what makes us click and also our challenges and how we've overcome them.
我还分享了一些关于关系的关键原则,帮助你处理你自己的关系。
I also share some really key principles of relationships to help you with your own.
大约进行到一半时,我们还玩了一个游戏,来展示我们有多了解对方,或者不了解。
Around halfway in, we also play a game to show you how well we know each other or don't.
我们是两个非常不同的人,却一起创造了特别的东西。
We're two very different people who have created something special together.
我很激动能把这个作为我的第一期节目分享给大家。
I'm so excited to share this as my first ever episode.
再次提醒大家,记得订阅、评分和评论,好好享受节目。
Again, make sure you've subscribed, rated and reviewed and enjoy the show.
嘿,大家好。
Hey, guys.
我叫Radhi,我是Jay的妹妹。
My name is Radhi and I'm Jay's sister.
你绝对不是我的妹妹。
You're definitely not my sister.
对,我知道,但这就是其中一点。
Yeah, know, but that's why one thing is.
我们完全没有血缘关系。
We're not related at all.
没有。
No.
我们总是得这么说。
We always have to say that.
我们俩真的没有任何相似之处。
We have nothing related about us whatsoever.
所以我要做个开场白,因为这是我们节目的惯例。
So I'm going to do an intro because it's the way we do the show.
那哪个是我的镜头?
So which one's my camera?
那个吗?
That one?
这个。
This one.
我们节目的第一位嘉宾,是我生命中最重要的人。
So our first guest on the show is the number one person in my life.
她是一位素食食谱开发者、植物性饮食营养师,也是阿育吠陀的爱好者。
She's a vegan recipe developer, a plant based dietitian, and an Ayurveda enthusiast.
她那些搞笑、有趣又好看的视频,每周都在Instagram上俘获我们的心,她的食谱也让我们垂涎欲滴。
Her hilarious, fun, and entertaining videos steal our hearts every single week on Instagram, and her recipes make our mouth water.
我的第一位嘉宾不是别人,正是我的妻子,我的挚爱,我的一切,我的灵魂,拉迪·谢蒂。
My first guest is none other than my wife, my love, my everything, my soul, Radhi Shetty.
哦,谢谢。
Oh, thanks.
我爱你。
I love you.
这个开场介绍真不错。
That was a nice intro.
谢谢你来参加。
Thanks for doing
我可没花钱让他这么说。
I didn't pay him to say that.
我们会用美食来让他这么说。
We'll make him food to say that.
谢谢你为我做这些。
Thanks for doing this for me.
谢谢。
Thanks.
所以让我做你的第一位嘉宾。
So having me as your first guest.
我很兴奋。
I'm excited.
我们要聊什么
What are going to talk
呢?
about?
你会发现,无论我们走到哪里,人们总是问我们的第一件事就是我们是不是兄妹。
So as you're going to find, one of the first things people always ask us wherever we are is if we're brother and sister.
这种事经常发生。
That happens all the time.
就算我们手牵手或者像情侣一样走路,人们也会问,嘿,你们是兄妹吗?
Even if we're like holding hands or walking in a couple way, people will be like, hey, are you guys brother and sister?
你们是亲戚吗?
Are you related?
我们就会想,如果我们真是亲戚,现在这样不就很奇怪吗?
And we're like, is that not be really weird right now if we were related?
但是手牵手的时候,你还靠在我肩膀上。
But holding hands you're like lying on my shoulder.
在玩的时候。
On a play.
但绝对,绝对不是亲戚。
but definitely, definitely not related.
没有血缘关系。
No relation.
而且,我们的眼睛颜色也不太一样。
Anyway, the eyes are not exactly the same color either.
没有。
No.
不过话说回来,跟自己的老婆聊天准备起来从来都不容易。
So but but anyway, so it's never easy to prepare for a conversation with your own wife.
所以我们做的是,请了一些朋友列了一堆话题,觉得这些话题你们听我们聊起来会最感兴趣。
So what we did is that we asked some of our friends to make a list of topics that we thought would be most interesting for all of you to hear us talk about.
然后我们就按着这个单子一个一个来。
So we're going to go down the list.
朋友们觉得我们第一个该聊的话题是,我们是怎么认识的。
So the first thing that our friends thought we should talk about is how did we meet?
好,那我们是怎么认识的?
Okay, so how did we meet?
你想讲这个故事吗?
Do you want to tell the story?
不,你来讲吧。
No, you tell it.
没事,没关系。
No, it's Okay.
你讲得更好。
You can tell better.
好,那我来跟他们讲。
Okay, I'll tell them.
好,那你来讲吧。
Okay, you tell them.
好,其实我第一次见到Radhi是在我出家之前。
Okay, so the first time I actually met Radhi was before I became a monk.
当时只是匆匆见了一面。
And I met her very briefly.
我觉得她长得漂亮,也很有魅力,但当时也没多想。
I thought she was beautiful and and attractive, but I didn't really think anything of it.
就是,我当时真的特别专注于自己那时候的生活和事情。
Like, I just I genuinely just was so focused on what I was doing at life at that time.
我当时特别专注于灵性修行,所以根本没往那方面想。
And I was so spiritually inclined and spiritually focused that I literally didn't think anything of it.
然后我妈把你介绍给了我。
And my mom introduced me to you.
对。
Yes.
那我应该讲讲这个故事。
So I should tell that story.
其实,我甚至在认识拉迪之前就先认识了她妈妈。
So actually, I met Radhi's mom even before I met her.
那时我正在接受僧侣训练。
And so I was training to become a monk.
我遇到了拉迪的妈妈,有人让我教她在寺庙里做一项特定的服务。
And I met Radhi's mom, and I was asked to show her how to do a particular service at the temple.
所以我得带她到处转转之类的。
So I had to take her around, etcetera.
最不可思议的是,那是我唯一一次
Now, the incredible thing about this is that that is the only time
你曾经
you ever
在那里被要求教别人做这个服务。
while I was there that I was ever asked to show another person how to do this service.
所以,我唯一一次需要教别人做这个寺庙的志愿服务的日子,恰好是她妈妈来的那一天。
So the one day that I had to show someone how to do this particular service, this voluntary service at the temple, it was the one day that her mom turned up.
那时候,我还不知道她有个女儿。
And at that time, I didn't know she had a daughter.
我对这位女士一无所知。
I didn't know anything about this lady.
我当时想,哦,她跟我妈妈年纪差不多。
I was like, oh, she's around my mom's age.
而且她人非常好。
And she was she was wonderful.
我们相处得挺好的。
And we got along.
但我只是教她怎么做,之后基本上就没跟她说过话。
But I was just showing her what to do and then literally didn't speak to her.
不会吧。
No.
后来我妈想让我更多地参与,我自己也很想在精神生活方面多投入一些。
And then my mom wanted me to get more involved in, and I really wanted to get more involved in, like, the spiritual side of my life.
所以她认识了他,想让我认识那边的青年社区。
And so she met him and wanted me to get introduced to the youth community there.
于是她把我的号码给了你,但你转给了你妹妹。
And so she passed on my number to you, but you passed on to your sister.
对,没错。
Yeah, absolutely.
所以我把它转给了我妹妹。
So I passed it on to my sister.
我当时想,不行,我得专心做自己的事。
I was like, no, I need to stay focused, do my thing.
而且我妹妹在灵性方面特别有天赋,要特别感谢艾米。
And my sister is very spiritually inclined to a big shout out to Amy.
然后,对,你们就联系上了,成了朋友。
And and then, yeah, and then you guys got connected and you became friends.
其实那时候,我妈跟我说,哦,你知道吗,我在寺庙遇到一个特别好、特别好的人。
And actually, that point, my mom had said to me, oh, you know, I met this really nice, really nice guy at the temple.
她跟我说,哦,我见到他之后,我就祈祷了。
And she was like to me, oh, after I met him, I prayed.
我当时想,哦,我希望我女儿能遇到像他这样的人。
And I was like, oh, I hope my daughter meet somebody like this.
我知道他会出家,但我希望她能遇到像他这样的人,因为他看起来真的很好。
I know he's gonna be a monk, but I hope she meets someone that's like this because he seems really nice.
他当时可没想到后来会发生什么。
Little did he know what was gonna happen.
我知道。
I know.
继续说。
Go on.
然后……
And then...
然后发生了什么?
And then what happened?
他出家了。
Became a monk.
我听过你讲话。
I heard you speak.
哦,我经常听他讲话,因为他以前经常做很多青年项目或者大学讲座。
Oh, I heard him speak all the time because he used to do lots of youth programs or university talks.
关于哲学、冥想之类的。
So on philosophy, meditation.
对,哲学和冥想。
Yeah, philosophy, meditation.
我当时就想,天哪,他讲得太棒了。
And I was just like, Oh my gosh, he's such an incredible speaker.
而且他能把那么深奥的智慧讲得跟我们这些年轻人特别相关。
And the way that he makes such incredible wisdom so relevant to us who were like young teenagers or them.
对,不是年轻人。
Yeah, not young teenagers.
我当时是青少年。
I was a teenager.
是青少年。
Was a teenager.
不,你
No, you
都80岁了。
were 80.
不是。
No.
是。
Are.
不会吧。
No way.
我当时多大?
How old was I?
有件事你听了会放松的。
One thing you're gonna relax
我对时间太没概念了。
I'm so bad at time.
谁记得住那么多日期啊。
I'm so who remembers all the dates.
我就觉得
I'm like
我是那个记得的人。
I'm the one who remembers it.
我什么都不记得。
I don't remember anything.
我连两年前发生的事都记不太清。
I barely remember things happened like two years ago.
所以不是。
So no.
我当时不是青少年。
I wasn't a teenager.
我已经大学毕业了,感觉那都是很久以前的事了。
I was out of university, which feels like a long time ago.
所以当时我二十多岁。
So I was in my 20s.
对,我听过他演讲,觉得太不可思议了,他能把那么深刻的智慧讲得那么透彻,而且对那么年轻的人来说还特别有共鸣,那些人可能根本不会对读一本相关的书感兴趣。
And yeah, saw him speak, I just thought it was so incredible how he was able to articulate such deep wisdom in a way that was so relevant to people who were so young and and probably wouldn't have been so interested in reading a book about it.
所以我当时对他非常敬佩,而且他看起来也很酷。
And so I was in awe of him, and he also looked really cool.
他有个光头。
He had, like, a bald head.
他看起来不像那种会谈论这些事情的人。
He didn't look like the type of person who was going to be speaking about these things.
他有纹身,还剃了光头,但穿着僧袍。
He had, like, tattoos and a bald head, but then he was in robes.
我当时觉得这真的很酷,但同时也很奇怪。
And I said, this is really, really cool but weird at the same time.
确实很奇怪。
It was so strange.
然后,当我离开僧侣生活时,那本身就是一段故事。
And and then it was then when I left being a monk, which is a whole story in itself.
我们可以改天再聊这个。
We can talk about that another day.
当我离开寺院的时候,她和我的妹妹关系非常非常好。
When I when I left being a monk, her and my sister were really, really close.
而我和我妹妹也特别特别亲近。
And me and my sister are really, really close.
我信任我妹妹。
I trust my sister.
她是我最好的朋友之一。
She's one of my best friends.
有一天我和她坐下来聊,她说,你知道吗?
And I sat down with her one day and she said, well, you know what?
Radhi喜欢上了一个人。
Radhi likes someone.
我当时就说,哦,是谁啊?
And and I was just like, Oh, who?
我还以为她会说别人的名字呢。
And I was thinking she was going to say some other person's name.
然后她说,她真的很喜欢你。
And she's like, She really likes you.
我当时就说,哦,我也真的很喜欢她。
And I was like, Oh, I really like her.
就是,我很想更深入地了解她。
Like, I'd love to get to know her better.
我们之前确实有过一些互动。
And we'd we'd interacted.
我们彼此也稍微了解了一些,因为我们一起组织过慈善活动之类的。
We'd had we'd got to know each other a bit better because we'd organized charity events together, etcetera.
所以我看她的时候,当然不是把她当成女朋友或者约会对象来看。
And so I'd seen her not in the role of being a girlfriend, obviously, or someone that I was dating.
我看到的是她在项目管理组织里跟其他人互动,组织活动时的样子。
I'd seen her interact with other people, other other humans inside a project management organization, organizing events.
所以我见识过她的性格,观察过她在某些人面前的表现,她怎么跟人说话,怎么跟人打交道。
So I'd seen her personality and like observed how she behaved around certain people, how she had talked to people, how she interacted with people.
基于这些,我觉得她是个很好的人。
And based on all those things, I thought she was a great person.
所以我姐姐告诉我那件事的时候,我其实心里也挺高兴的。
So when my sister told me that, was secretly quite happy as well.
我经常通过他姐姐听到他的消息,他姐姐说起他的时候总是充满爱意和温情。
And I always heard about him through his sister, and his sister would talk about him with so much love and affection.
他把她当成自己的宝贝一样对待。
And he treats her like she's his baby.
不管她多大,她在他眼里永远是个宝贝。
No matter how old she gets, she's literally like his baby.
我以前还看过他们之间的对话。
And I used to see conversations between them.
我当时就想,天哪,她太可爱了。
Used be like, Oh my gosh, she's so sweet.
他也很贴心,尽管他……
Like, he's so sweet, even though he's...
他虽然出家了,但对妹妹和家人还是特别关心、特别有爱。
He's gone off being a monk, but he was still really, really caring and loving towards towards his sister and his family.
然后,是的,我告诉他我喜欢他,是在他知道之前,或者你可能都还没想到的时候。
And then, yeah, I told her that I liked him before before he knew about it or before you'd probably even thought about it.
所以,事情就是这样了。
So then that was it, really.
我们就是这样认识的。
That's how we met.
在我出家之前,我们差点就见面了。
We almost met before I became a monk.
然后我们聊了聊,等等。
Then we had conversations, etcetera.
对,我们没聊过,没说过话,但只是在各自的状态下见过对方。
Yeah, never had conversations, never spoke, but but had just seen each other in our own elements.
然后那年晚些时候我还俗了,我们就在一起了。
And then when I left, left being a monk later that year, we we started going out.
所以那大概是在……
And so that was around the...
2013年底的时候。
Towards the end of twenty thirteen.
然后进展就非常快。
And then it just went really fast.
我们俩都有点……
We both we both kind of...
一聊起来,我们就都知道彼此想在一起,而且非常确定。
As soon as we spoke about it, we both knew that we wanted to be with each other, and we were really certain about it.
本来可能会搞砸的,但我们就像……
And it could have gone really wrong, but we were like...
我们俩本来都可能很疯狂,但最后就是顺利走到了一起。
We could have both been really crazy, but it ended up just working out.
我想,我们俩其实都是通过观察对方,就彼此很了解了。
We both really had kind of understood each other just by observing one another, I guess.
肯定有一些惊喜。
There were a few surprises, I'm sure.
但是我们……
But we...
我们很快就合得来,而且我们俩都从,对,真的很喜欢你,到,对,我爱你,只用了一天。
We got along straight away, and we were both went from, yeah, really like you to, yeah, I love you in a day.
然后就像,对,我们想在一周内结婚。
And then it was like, yeah, we want to get married in a week.
就是说我们不是真的在一周内结婚了,但我们在那之后的一周里说我们最终想结婚。
As in we didn't get married in a week, but we said we wanted to get married eventually in a week after that.
然后我们开始在彼此家里待很长时间。
Then we ended up spending a lot of time at each other's homes.
他,对吧?
He Right?
在我家待了很久很久。
Was spending a lot of time at my house for ages.
我的意思是,我约会基本都带他去我家附近,因为我喜欢和家人在一起。
I mean, that's pretty much where I took him to have all of our dates because I loved being around my family.
我觉得这样两全其美。
And I was like, best of both worlds.
既能和想共度余生的人待在一起,又能和陪伴我大半辈子的家人团聚。
I can be around the person that I want to spend the rest of my life with and the people that I've spent most of my life with.
所以,对,我们大部分约会都会带上我爸妈、我妹妹和我当时的妹夫。
So, yeah, most of our dates would would involve my parents and my sister and my brother-in-law at the time.
所以我们很快就在各自熟悉的环境里了解了彼此,我觉得这让我们的关系推进得轻松多了。
And so we got to know each other kind of in our own environments as well really fast, which I think helped us fast forward a lot easier.
对,确实如此。
Yeah, absolutely.
我记得我姐姐当时还给我列了个行动指南。
And I remember that my sister gave me like an action plan.
她说你就照着这个做就行。
She's like, this is what you're going to get along on.
这是你会遇到的困难。
This is what you're going to struggle with.
这也会是个挑战。
And this is going to be a challenges.
我确实得感谢她让我们走到一起。
And and I definitely owe it to her to bring us together.
我觉得她
I think she
起了很大的作用
was a huge part
她确实
of she was
让我们在一起,我姐姐,绝对是。
us being together, my sister, definitely.
而且她说,因为她太了解我了,我觉得她也慢慢了解你了。
And and she was like, because she knows me so well and I feel she got to know you well as well.
她当时就说,这就是你们俩会达成一致的地方。
She was just like, this is what you guys are going to agree on.
这就是你们俩不会达成一致的地方。
This is what you're not going to agree on.
对,能有这样的了解真是太好了。
Yeah, it was just it was so nice to have that.
因为这样你就能在进入一段关系时,对对方有更多的了解。
Because you could go into a relationship having more understanding of the other person.
我能说一句吗?她当时说我们合不来的其中一件事就是宝莱坞,因为那时候我超爱宝莱坞的歌曲和电影。
Can I just say one of the things she said that we wouldn't get along on is Bollywood because I loved Bollywood songs and films at the time?
但你喜欢一首好的宝莱坞歌曲。
But you like a good Bollywood song.
不好说。
Questionable.
不好说。
Questionable.
不好说。
Questionable.
但我决定克服这一点。
But I decided to get over that.
而你,你几乎没怎么。
And you you barely.
你得走了。
You've got to go.
我还是很喜欢它。
Still have a love for it.
不过,是的,我们花了很多时间在彼此父母家里,和家人在一起,这很好,因为你必须做自己。
But, yeah, we spent a lot of time in each other's parents' homes and with our families, which was great because you had to be yourself.
我以前很喜欢你妈妈常对你说的话。
I used to love what your mom used to tell you.
我妈妈很有趣。
My mom was so funny.
所以很明显,对她来说,那个人就是……
So obviously, like, it was a person to her that was...
你知道,我们当时在约会。
You know, we were dating.
通常来说,当约会对象来家里的时候,你会花很多心思在穿着和发型上。
And so usually, you would put in a lot of effort in the way that you dress and doing your hair when the person you're dating comes over.
但说实话,我整天都穿着同一套衣服,基本上就是睡裤和一件很邋遢的上衣。
But, yeah, I would literally be in the same clothes that I was wearing the whole day, which was pretty much like pajama bottoms and a really scruffy top.
我妈就会说,你难道不想换件上衣吗?
And my mom would be like, do you not wanna maybe put a different top on?
或者你不想换条裤子吗?
Or you don't wanna change your trousers?
我就说,不,妈。
I was like, no, mom.
如果他不能接受我现在穿的样子,那以后他大概也会一直看到我这样,那我们就注定不合适。
If he can't love me in what I'm wearing right now, which is what he's probably going to see me for the rest of his life, then it's just not meant to be.
对吧?
Okay?
我们……
We...
就是说,他必须爱我的……
Like, he has to love me for...
然后她说,好吧。
And she went, okay.
但你可以稍微试试嘛,你知道的。
But you could try, you know, a little bit.
我说,不。
I was like, no.
结果还真管用。
And it worked.
所以……
So...
而且她又漂亮又可爱。
And she's so beautiful and cute.
就算她穿得像个流浪汉风格,我也觉得,我超喜欢。
Like, even when she's dressed all hobo chic, I'm just like, I love it.
你知道吗?
You know?
其实这还挺好的。
And and it's quite nice, actually.
就像,我……
Like, I've...
我真的这么觉得。
I genuinely believe this.
我很少看到她化妆。
Like, I rarely see her with makeup on.
对。
Yes.
所以,当你因为一个人的本质、性格和能量而爱上他们时,那种美会自然流露出来,这真的很美好。
So, like, it's it's fun when you when you fall in love with someone based on who they are and their personality and their energy and all of that beauty shines through.
所以,是的,我爱你。
So, yeah, I love you.
所以,这正好引出了我们朋友想讨论的下一个话题:一段关系要开个好头,关键是什么?
So that leads us nicely on to the next point that our friends wanted to discuss, which is what's the key to starting off a relationship well?
开个好头的关键是什么?
What's the key to starting off?
就是说,怎么才能开个好头?
Like, what's the key to starting off well?
对我来说,有一点是,因为我们没有在约会场合见过面。对。
So one thing for me was was this, that because we didn't see each other in dating environments Yeah.
我觉得约会场合会给人一种面试的压力。
A lot, I feel like dating environments put this pressure of being in an interview.
所以我把约会比作面试。
So I compared dates to interviews.
这几乎就像你必须展现出最好的一面。
It's almost like you have to put your best foot forward.
穿上最好的衣服。
You wear your best clothes.
尽量说最好的话。
You try and say all the best things.
即使不是最好的,实际上,我们也是在努力表现正确。
And even if it's not the best, actually, it's us trying to be right.
这就是我们在面试中做的事情。
And that's what we do in interviews.
当你去面试工作时,你希望自己是合适的人选。
When you go and interview for a job, it's like you want to be the right fit
对那个人来说。
for that person.
在约会场景中也是如此。
And that's what happens in a dating scenario.
就像你坐在桌子对面,跟面试时一样。
Like you're sitting opposite a desk just like you do in an interview.
然后有人问你问题,你就在想,好吧,我得说什么才能让他们喜欢我,或者说对话?
And then someone's asking you a question and you're like, Okay, well, what do I have to say to make them like me or to say the right thing?
但我们其实没机会那样做。
Whereas we didn't really get to do that.
我不是说那是我们有意选择的。
And I'm not saying that that was a conscious choice.
但现在回头看,反思一下,我就觉得,我们其实没有真正意义上的约会机会。
But now when I look back at it and I reflect on it and introspect on it, I'm like, we didn't really get an opportunity to date in that sense.
所以我能看到真实的她,要么是在慈善组织里见到她,要么是在现实生活场景中。
And that means that I got exposed to the real her, either by seeing her in a charity organization, seeing her in a real life scenario.
她对普通人怎么样,对家人又是什么态度?
How does she treat normal people and then how she is with her family?
我觉得这是了解一个人最好的方式。
And I'm like, that's the best view you can get of someone.
所以如果让我给建议或者分享经验的话,我的建议是,多和那些你考虑交往的人在一起,而且是在他们最自然、做自己的环境里。
And so when I look at that in terms of giving advice or tips or whatever, my recommendation is be around people that you're thinking about being with in an environment where they're just being themselves.
因为很有可能,如果你喜欢他们在别人面前展现出的样子,那么他们和你在一起时,你也大概率会爱上他们。
Because chances are, if you like them the way they are when they are with other people, then you're likely to love them when they're with you, too.
很多时候,我们只看到那些我们正在考虑发展恋爱关系或约会的人。
And so often we only see people that we are considering being romantic with or dating, etcetera.
我们通常只在约会、吃饭、看电影这些场合见到他们,对吧?
We only see them in dates and dinners and movie nights and whatever it is, right?
对,我同意。
Yeah, I agree.
我觉得你能看到这一点,我也见过有人在他们最亲近的人面前展现真实的一面,因为在你最亲近的人面前是装不出来的。
I feel like you see and I also have seen people with the people that they're closest to because you can't really fake it with the people that you're closest to.
我的意思是,如果你能装,那也只能维持很短的时间。
I mean, and if you can, you could do it for a really short period of time.
而且你也会看到他们最好和最坏的一面,因为你可能会把最温柔的一面留给家人,但也可能成为对家人最糟糕的人,因为他们会包容你的一切。
And you also end up seeing them being probably at their worst and at their best because you can be the most loving to your family, but you can also be the worst person towards your family because they're the ones that accept it.
所以,是的,我觉得通过这种方式和对方互动,你能很好地了解这个人。
And so, yeah, I feel like you get a good image of who the person is through through interacting with them that way.
完全同意。
Absolutely.
说得好。
Good point.
谢谢。
Thanks.
讲得真好。
Nicely said.
确实如此。
It's true.
还有一点,我们刚在一起的时候,我大概分手七个月了。
And and the other thing is, so when we first got together, I'd left being among probably like seven months before.
所以中间隔了七个月,而且我当时还没工作。
So it'd been like a seven month gap And I didn't have a job.
我当时没有工作。
I had no job.
也没有钱。
I had no money.
是啊。
No.
我到处找工作,但到处碰壁,因为我有三年当和尚的经历,没人愿意雇一个简历上写着“和尚”的人。
I was getting rejected left, right and center from every single place that I was applying to because I'd been a monk for three years and no one wanted to hire someone who had monk written on their resume.
没人会说,哦,我真喜欢你的可转移技能。
Like, no one's like, Oh, yeah, I would love your transferable skills.
你知道,他们会说,你懂什么?
You know, like, what do you know?
然后就说,哦,你能打坐四个小时。
And so, Oh, you can meditate for four hours.
真棒。
Great.
我们组织里就需要这样的人。
We need that in our organization.
所以那时候我真的是什么都没有,一无所有。
So it was just there was no I had nothing, really.
而这样开始约会其实挺好的,因为记得我以前会攒钱。
And that's a great way to start dating someone because I remember I used to save up.
我以前会尽量找兼职,做所有能做的事。
So I used to like try and work part time and I was doing everything I could do.
我去做家教。
I was tutoring.
就是辅导年轻人准备考试或者大学入学考试之类的。
So I would like I'd be tutoring young people for their exams or university exams, etcetera.
然后一小时能赚个15块左右吧。
And I'd be making like, you know, 15 an hour or whatever it was.
我记得我会攒钱,这样月底就能带她出去约会,做点好玩的事。
And I remember I'd save up so I could take her out on a date at the end of the month and so that we could do something fun.
我很喜欢这一点,因为我在一无所有的时候遇见了她,而她接受了我。
And I love that because I met her at a time when when I had nothing and she accepted me for it.
我因此很爱她。
And I love her for that.
而且她的父母对此也一直很开明。
And also, her parents were always really cool about it.
有时候父母的期望会带来很大的压力。
So sometimes that can be a big pressure from parents and expectations.
但她的父母对此真的很开明。
But her parents were really cool about it.
他们从来没有让我感到不自在或尴尬。
They never made me feel uncomfortable about it or anything.
而我父母显然对我很放心。
And my parents obviously were very comfortable with me.
他们就说,跟着你的心走,做对你自己好的事。
They were just like, follow your heart, do what's right for you.
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非常非常鼓励。
Very, very encouraging.
而且我并不是来自富裕家庭,完全不是。
And I'm not I don't come from a well off background at all or anything.
所以并不是说我有后备计划,但我的父母仍然非常非常鼓励和支持我。
So it's not that I had a backup plan, but my parents were still very, very encouraging and supportive.
对,说实话,我从来没想过这些。
Yeah, that was never in my mind, to be honest.
我知道我想和你在一起。
Knew I wanted to be with you.
所以我跟我妈说,即使我们最后住在一个很小的房子里,就在我以前常去的寺庙旁边,我也知道我想和他共度一生。
And so I was like to my mom, even if we end up living in a really tiny house, just by near the temple that I used to go to and just I know that I want to spend my life with him.
所以无论结果如何,你都非常非常热情,而且你很有目标感。
So whatever ends up being and you are really, really enthusiastic, and you have so much purpose.
而且从一开始,你就非常有动力去做你想做的事。
And even from the beginning, you were so driven to do whatever you wanted to do.
当时我还不知道那是什么。
I didn't know what that was at the time.
但你那么有干劲,我就知道不管是什么,不管我们注定要成为什么样的人,那都会发生。
But you were so driven that I just knew whatever it was, whatever we were meant to be was what was gonna happen.
所以……
And so...
而且我知道你永远不会……
And I knew you would never...
你总会一直在那里照顾我,我从一开始就感觉到了。
You'd always, like, gonna be there to take care of me, and I felt that from the beginning.
我一直觉得有你在支持我。
Like, I always felt supported.
你想牵手吗?
You want to hold hands?
我不太擅长在公共场合秀恩爱,所以我还是不牵了。
I'm not good at PDA, so I'm going to not do that.
天哪。
Oh, my God.
你在镜头前被拒绝了。
You're rejected on camera.
就是这样。
There you go.
所以那真的很好。
So that was it was it was really nice.
我觉得他有很多我从小到大一直希望丈夫拥有的品质,就像我爸爸那样。
And I feel like he had a lot of the qualities that I always felt I would always grow up saying, oh, I really want a husband that was like my dad.
我很爱我爸爸,他总是让我感到被保护和被支持。
Like, I love my dad, and he was always someone that I felt very protected and supported by.
所以现在回想起来,我在了解他的过程中确实感受到了那些品质。
And so I definitely now looking back at it, I felt those qualities in him as I got to know him.
所以我想,是的,那真的很好。
And so I thought, yeah, that was that was nice.
而我父母,是的,我父母他们并没有那种想法。
And my parents, yeah, my parents my parents didn't carry that.
我一直以为会是……
I always thought it would be...
你知道,在印度家庭里,你总会觉得这会是个问题。
You know, you always think in Indian families that's gonna be an issue.
但他们从一开始就很喜欢他。
But they loved him from the start.
他真的很擅长……
He's got really good...
我不知道你们有没有注意到,但他真的很会说话,能用言语赢得别人的好感。
I don't know whether you guys have noticed, but he's got a really good way of saying things and and winning people over by his words.
这是真的。
It's real, though.
我知道,所以这很真诚,也很暖心。
I know that's why it's genuine and it's sweet.
所以通过这些互动,我觉得我父母也很容易就信任了他。
So from those interactions, I think my parents trusted him very easily as well.
我真的很喜欢你父母。
I really get along with your parents.
我知道。
I know.
他们超棒的。
They are the bomb.
我觉得在一段关系开始时,另一件很重要的事就是自我认知和设定期望。
Another thing I think that's really important at a start of a relationship is self awareness and setting expectations.
所以我觉得,作为僧人修行过,并且亲身经历过那段经历,我获得了大量的自我认知。
So I feel that having done the work as a monk and having been through that experience myself, I'd gained so much self awareness.
所以我非常清楚自己需要什么样的伴侣。
So I was really aware of what type of partner I needed in my life.
我非常清楚自己需要什么才能在生活中茁壮成长。
I was really aware of what I needed in my life to flourish, to thrive.
所以当我遇到某个人时,我很容易就能把我的期望告诉她,比如我记得我说过的一件事,这完全没有冒犯的意思。
And so when I met someone, it was very easy and simple for me to communicate my expectations to her and be like, I remember one of the things I said, and this is not offensive at all.
这确实是我当时的真实感受。
It's it's genuinely how I felt at the time.
我说过,如果你想要一个周末去宜家、去电影院的丈夫,那我可不是那种人。
And I said that if you want a husband who goes to IKEA on the weekends and and to the cinema, like, I'm not that guy.
我并不是说那样不好,如果有人是那样的话。
And I didn't mean that as a bad thing if anyone is that.
我的意思是,我想成为一个有目标地生活的人,我希望我的生活是服务于他人的。
What I meant that as is I want to be someone who lives a life of purpose, and I want my life to be about service.
我希望我的生活能对人们产生影响。
And I want my life to have an impact on people's lives.
我需要一个能理解、接受并配合这一点的伴侣,她也想过不平凡的生活,因为如果我真的想产生影响、想有所作为、想服务他人,那平凡的生活对我来说是行不通的。
And I need a partner that's going to understand that, embrace that and roll with that as well and wants to live not a normal life because that wasn't going to work for me if I really wanted to have an impact, if I really wanted to make a difference, if I really wanted to serve.
所以那并不是出于自负。
And so that wasn't an ego thing.
这不是我觉得自己更好、更高人一等或者特别。
It wasn't me thinking I'm I'm better or above or special.
我只是在说,这对我来说是优先事项。
It was me saying this is a priority for me.
我不需要它成为你的优先事项,但我需要你理解这是我的。
And I don't need it to be your priority, but I need you to understand it to be mine.
我觉得这很重要,如果我们真的对某件事有承诺,当你让对方知道,同样地,她也会分享她的。
And I think this is really important that we should feel that if we're genuinely committed to something, when you make someone aware and same back from her side to like when she and she will share hers.
但是当她让我知道她的优先事项和她看重的东西时,你开始尊重对方看重的东西,而不是期望他们放弃自己的。
But when she's made me aware of what her priorities are and what's important to her, you start respecting what's important to the other person rather than expecting them to trade theirs.
在关系初期,通常发生的是,不是尊重对方的热情,而是期望他们改变热情来迎合你,或者妥协,并对你的东西感到兴奋。
And that's usually what happens in relationships in the beginning is instead of showing respect for the other people's passion, you expect them to change their passion for yours or compromise and be excited about your stuff.
我觉得这不是正确的做法。
And I don't think that that's the right way.
我认为是我们对自己有清晰的认识,沟通出来,然后尊重对方沟通的内容。
I think it's us being clear about ourselves, communicating that and then respecting what the other person communicates.
其实我们很早就聊过这个了。
I think we discussed that really early on, actually.
对,确实是这样。
Yeah, for sure.
说清楚一下,他周末确实陪我去过宜家。
Just to be clear, he has come to IKEA with me on the weekends.
还一起看过电影。
And movies too.
不过,我明白他的意思。
But yeah, no, I understood the point of it.
我记得那时候他特别想做成自己的事,忙得不得了。
And I remember at that time when he was really pushing for what he wanted to do, he was very, very busy.
所以有些事情就顾不上了。
And so there were certain things.
不过,他确实花了很多时间陪我和我的家人。
I mean, he spent a lot of time with me and my family.
但我们当时就说好了,你看,如果有一些我必须参加的额外活动,因为家里嘛,总有各种事情要去,比如亲戚家或者朋友家,每个节日都得去。
But we had just agreed that, look, if there was extended things that I had to go to because with families, there's always other things that you have to go to, like family friends or relatives houses for every event possible.
如果发生这种情况,我知道他不用来参加这些活动,我也没关系。
And if that happened, then I knew that I was Okay with him not coming to them.
我从一开始就跟他说过,你
And I said that to him from the beginning that You're
也很棒,因为
amazing as well for
这个。
this.
如果你需要去做一些事情,我知道对你来说更重要,不是因为你想活下去,而是因为那个目的,那我完全理解,那比你来参加另一个可能没人记得的聚会更重要。
If you need to go and do something which is, I know for you, more important, not because for the purpose that you want to live, then I totally understand that comes above you just coming to another party, which people are not probably going to remember.
所以没关系。
Like, it's Okay.
我觉得这对我们来说真的很重要,因为你总能听到别人怎么说。
And I think that was really actually really important for us because you can always hear what other people say.
比如说,家人或者朋友什么的,总会有不同的看法。
Like, family members or friends or whatever will always have a different opinion.
所以,只要你觉得你们已经讨论过了,而且你真的理解那个人的观点,那么当别人说些什么的时候,你就不会轻易被影响,因为你理解得很透彻。
And so as long as you feel like you have discussed it and you really understand that person's point of view, then you don't feel kind of it doesn't rub off on you when people say things because you understand it deeply.
但如果你没有做到这一点,我觉得就很容易被别人的生活观、恋爱方式或者其他什么所左右。
Whereas if you don't, then I think it's really easy to get swayed by other people's view of life or other people's way of relationships or whatever it is.
比如,你可能会……
Like, you can get...
那很容易影响到你。
That can rub off on you very easily.
但如果你真的理解那个人,理解他们为什么这么做,我觉得这会对你支持他们产生很大的不同。
But if you really understand that person and why they're doing it, I think that can make a big difference to you supporting them in why they're why they're doing it.
天哪。
Oh, my God.
这个牵手的事。
This holding hands thing.
而且我们当时必须意识到这一点,我真的很感激她。
And had and we had to realize and I really appreciate that from her.
我真的很看重这一点,因为这不是把某件事看得更低。
Like, I really valued that because it wasn't about seeing something as less.
而是把某件事看作是我的优先事项。
It was about seeing something as a priority for me.
有一个人能理解这一点,信任我,并且允许我有那个空间,这让我们关系更紧密了。
And and having someone who understood that and trusted me and and allow me to have that space strengthened us.
而且我们很快就变成了一个团队。
And we also very quickly became our we became a team.
所以当涉及到我们的家庭或者各种要求时,任何来自亚洲家庭或印度家庭的人都知道,
So when it came to our families or like demands and for anyone who's from an Asian family or an Indian family knows that
这是件大事。
it's a big deal.
这是件大事。
It's a big deal.
家庭是很重要的事情。
Like family is a big deal.
而且它会在感情中牵扯很多。
And it gets very involved in a relationship.
我记得很早的时候就跟她说,我就说,就你和我,我们是一个团队,就是我们俩。
And I remember saying to her really early on, I was like, it's me and you like, we're a team like it's us.
我们必须这么想,因为我们这辈子每天都要一起醒来。
And we have to think like that because we've got to wake up next to each other every single day of our lives.
我们这辈子每天都要一起入睡。
We've got to go to sleep together with each other every day of our lives.
我们这辈子每天都要面对面,待在一起。
We've got to be in each other's face and space every single day, each of our lives.
所以就是我们俩。
So it's it's us.
我们必须是一个团队。
We have to be a team.
然后很快我就发现,只要是涉及到我的家人或者我的承诺之类的事情,我都会站在她那边。
And then very quickly, like I found that when it was anything to do with my family or my commitments, etcetera, then I would have her back.
然后每当她遇到关于我的事情时,她也会站在我这边。
And then whenever she was anywhere and it was about me, she would have my back.
这就在早期建立了一种非常牢固的纽带。
And that built like a really strong bond early on.
对,我完全同意。
Yeah, I completely agree.
而且即使我们之间想讨论这件事,并且我们对对方有不同的看法,至少在我们交谈的人面前,如果我们互相支持,对方就会感到被支持和安慰。
And even if we wanted to discuss it between us and we had a different opinion to the other person, at least to the like people that we were speaking to, if we had each other's back, the other person felt supported and comforted by that.
而我觉得如果你……
Whereas I feel if you're...
在你爱的人和你一辈子相处的人之间战斗,真的太难了。
It's just so hard to fight that battle between the person that you love and the people that you've spent your whole life with.
但我觉得当你知道你要……
But I think when you know you're going to...
当你理解背后的原因时,我总是回到这一点。
When you understand the reason behind it, I just I keep coming back to that.
但我真的觉得这有很大的不同。
But I really think it makes such a difference.
我们朋友想让我们讨论的第三个话题是爱的语言,以及认识和识别我们自己的爱的语言和别人的爱的语言。
Third topic that our friends want us to discuss is love languages and realizing and recognizing our own love languages and the love languages of someone else.
如果你不知道爱的语言是什么,那是盖瑞·查普曼的一本很棒的书。
So if you don't know what the love languages are, it's a great book by Gary Chapman.
我做了很多关于它的视频。
I've made lots of videos on it.
有五种爱的语言。
There are five love languages.
它们是优质时间、身体接触、肯定的话语、服务的行动和礼物。
They are quality time, touch, words of affirmation, acts of service and gifts.
我们每个人都有多种爱的语言,但我们有一个优先级,一个等级顺序,我们俩大多把其中一两个作为我们最重要的爱的语言。
So all of us have multiple love languages, but we have a priority, a hierarchy order, and we both mostly value one or two as our top love languages.
每个人都有。
And everyone has them.
所以你也可以想想自己的。
So you can think about yours as well.
我记得我们关系早期,在讨论怎么和对方家人相处,或者我们俩怎么相处的时候,你对我说过一句话,我一直记到现在。
I remember earlier on in our relationship when we were talking about spending time with each other's family or even each other, you said something to me which has stuck with me for a really long time.
我害怕。
I'm scared.
到现在还怕。
Until now.
害怕。
Scared.
不,那真的很好。
No, it was really good.
他说,我们可以花很多时间和人在一起,而且可以做很多不同的事情。
He was saying how we can spend so much quantity of time with people, And it can be spent doing so many different things.
你们虽然在一起,但实际上呢,比如在看电影或者玩手机,或者一整天都待在一起,但你们真正互动的有多少呢?
You're with each other, but you're actually doing like, okay, you're watching a film or you're on your phones or you're spending the whole day together, but how much are you actually interacting with each other?
所以我真的很喜欢他总是选择高质量的相处时间,而不是非得……
And so I really loved that he would always choose quality time over necessarily...
不是说不要数量。
Not over, like, quantity.
所以即使他和我、我的家人或朋友相处的时间很短,他也总是确保自己……
So even if he's spending a short amount of time with me or my family or my friends, he would always make sure he's got...
就是,他们能得到他的全部注意力。
Like, they've got his full attention.
就是,他真的会让他们觉得……
Like, he would really make them feel...
而且他确实是真心实意地,把自己完全投入到那个时刻里。
And he genuinely felt that way, that he was investing his full self into that moment.
我觉得那让……
And I think that made...
这差别真的很大。
Makes such a difference.
当时我其实不太理解,总觉得和家人在一起就是理所当然的陪伴嘛。
I never understood that at the time because it was always like, you know, when you're spending time with family, it's just family time.
但这让我开始反思,我是把时间花在与人相处上,而不是单纯计较待了多久。
But it really made me think about how I spend time with people rather than the amount of time I spend time with people.
看着你一直这么做,我也注意到大家有多感激你全神贯注的陪伴,哪怕时间很短,也能和人建立很深的连接。
And as I've seen you do that while we've been together, I just think I've noticed how much people appreciate your full attention and how deeply you connect to them even in such a short space of time.
而我属于那种人,哪怕跟别人待上一小时,心思可能早就飘到别处去了。
Whereas I've been like the type of person who can spend an hour with someone and my mind can be somewhere else.
这其实是一种……
It's a training...
确实有这种情况。
There is.
这绝对是需要刻意练习的。
It's a training thing, definitely.
我从你身上学到了这一点,但能够全身心投入到对话或一个人身上,这真的是一个非常了不起的品质。
And I've learned that from you, but it's an incredible quality to have to be able to invest your full self into conversation or a person.
这就是为什么他……
And that's why he...
其实挺烦人的,但他什么都记得。
It's actually really annoying, but he remembers everything.
比如,他记得每个人的名字,记得我五周前说的每句话,记得我当时穿什么。
Like, he remembers everybody's name, everything I said, like, five weeks ago, everything I was wearing.
这确实是个很棒的能力,但有时候也很烦人,因为我没有那样的记忆力。
Like, it's an amazing quality, but it can also be very annoying because I don't have that memory.
所以他就说,不对。
So he's like, no.
你三周前说过这个。
You said this, like, three weeks ago.
我就说,不对。
It's like, no.
我没有。
I didn't.
但我没有那种记东西的本子,所以只能信他说的。
But I don't have, like, a book that I write things down in, so I have to take his word for it.
不过,
But,
对,每天五颗杏仁,各位。
yeah, five almonds a day, guys.
五颗杏仁。
Five almonds.
是的。
Yes.
这是我妈会跟我说的。
That's my mom would tell me.
不过,不,谢谢你。
But, no, I thank you.
我真的很感激。
I really appreciate it.
记得那是从美好时光里来的。
Remember that from quality time.
这就是发挥你技能和才华的时候了。
And this is where it comes to using your skills and talents.
她总是很用心,比如给我家人做超好吃的东西。
Like, she'd always make an effort to, like, cook amazing stuff for my family.
我记得你给我妹妹做过一个小黄人蛋糕。
I remember when you made my sister a minion cake.
哦,对。
Oh, yeah.
为了她的生日。
For her birthday.
那花了我一天半的时间。
That took me a day and a half.
而且特别值得。
And it was so worth it.
看起来真的很好看。
Like, it looks so good.
我也很喜欢小黄人。
And I love minions, too.
所以特别可爱。
So it was it was so cute.
而且我妈妈还记得你做的第一个蛋糕
And and my mom still remembers the first thought you ever made
当我第一次来
when I first came
的时候。
over.
你第一次来的时候。
When you first came over.
就是那些东西。
It's just it's those things.
所以,你知道,发挥你的才能,运用你的技能,人们会更感激这些,而不是花一周或花时间,就像她说的,数量,但想法质量。
So, you know, using your talents, using your skills and and people appreciate that even more than like taking a week or taking time, like she's saying, like quantity, but the the quality of a thought.
即使人们说,重要的是心意,其实不是。
Even when people say like, it's the thought that counts, it's not.
重要的是心意的质量。
It's the quality of the thought that counts.
这才是我们能在人们生活中产生影响的地方。
Like, that's that's where we make an impact in people's lives.
所以回到爱的语言这个话题。
And so going back to love languages.
这对我来说是人际关系中一个有趣的教训。
So this was an interesting lesson for me in relationships.
花了一段时间。
It took a while.
花了很
It took a
久才走到那一步。
while to get there.
对,确实花了很长时间。
Yeah, definitely took a while.
是的。
It did.
而且我们很长一段时间都搞错了。
And we got it really wrong for a long time.
就像,那真是。
Like it was.
对,这绝对是一段旅程,因为你总是想给对方你想要的东西。
Yeah, it was definitely been a journey for sure, because you always end up trying to give the person what you want.
这真的是很自然的事情。
Like it's it's such a natural thing.
哦,抱歉。
Oh, sorry.
我忘了这是你的节目。
I forgot it's your show.
不。
No.
不。
No.
我刚才只是在说,这太……
I was just saying that it's so...
我回想了一下,因为我在想我搞砸的所有事情。
I'm just thinking about it back because I'm thinking about all the things I got wrong.
但人们总是很容易把自己喜欢收到的东西,或者自己喜欢为对方做的事情,强加给别人。
But it's so easy to always want to give other people what you love receiving or what you love doing for that person.
我觉得你的爱的表达方式可能不同,你给予别人的和你喜欢从别人那里得到的可能不一样。
And I feel like your love languages can be different in what you giving to other people and what you like receiving from other people.
我喜欢为别人做饭,而且我真的很享受一顿好饭。
I love cooking for people, and I really appreciate a good meal.
但我不一定会说那就是我表达爱的方式。
But I wouldn't necessarily say that that's my way of showing love.
那也不一定是我感受到被爱的方式。
It's not necessarily my way that I feel love given to me.
而且,是的,我觉得这经历了很多尝试和错误。
And, yeah, I think it took a lot of trial and error.
那几年真是一场严肃的实验。
It was a serious experiment going on for a couple of years.
她现在在忍着呢。
And she and she's holding back right now.
但和Radhi在一起的时候,她真的超搞笑。
But lips with Radhi is hilarious.
就像,她是我认识的最有趣的人。
Like, she's she's the funniest person I know.
她最让我开心。
She makes me laugh the most.
我有点紧张。
I'm a nervous.
对,她现在开始投入了。
When I yeah, and she's she's getting into it.
她开始投入了。
She's getting into it.
你得去Instagram上找些故事看看。
You need to go find some stories on Instagram.
但当我第一次见到她时,你会觉得,哦,她是个优雅的人。
But when I when I first met her and when you see her, you're like, Oh, she's an elegant.
哦,是的。
Oh, yeah.
优雅、端庄的年轻女性。
Elegant, graceful young woman.
我当时就想,好吧,也许她喜欢那种大场面,喜欢高档优雅的地方。
And I was just like and I was just like, Okay, so maybe she likes like like, oh, grand gestures and elegant posh places.
我当时就是这么想的。
Like, that's what I thought.
这正好说明了媒体是怎么让我们根据一个人的外表去猜测他们喜欢什么的。
And this just shows us how a the media makes us assume what people like or we based on how someone appears, we assume what they like.
所以我就那么做了。
And so that's what I did.
结果我完全搞错了。
I got it completely wrong.
我记得我安排了我们的第一次约会。
And I remember organizing our first day.
我们去看了一场戏剧表演,其实挺有意思的。
We went to watch a theater show, which is actually really fun.
然后我们去了我订的那家餐厅,叫Lakanda Locatelli。
And then we went to this restaurant that I booked and this restaurant's called Lakanda Locatelli,
他为了那一天的约会,估计得辅导差不多一个月的课才付得起。
which he must have like tutored for about a month to afford that one day date.
真的。
Literally.
对,确实很贵。
Yeah, it was expensive.
而且这家餐厅特别难订。
And this restaurant is like highly in demand.
贝克汉姆都去那儿。
Like David Beckham goes there.
就是那种特别高档、特别气派的餐厅。
And it's it's one of these, you know, very posh, very grand restaurant.
我当时觉得就得这么做。
I thought that's what I needed to do.
结果我完全想错了。
And I was totally wrong.
我们坐在那里。
Like we sat there.
她看起来对这个地方完全不感兴趣。
She looks so uninterested in this space.
我还得穿高跟鞋,我平时根本不穿。
And I had to wear heels I don't wear heels.
说实话,我穿了一条平时不会穿的裙子,因为我觉得那是他想要的。
Literally, I was in a dress I wouldn't normally wear because I thought that's what he wanted.
所以我真的穿了那种……
So I was literally in a that...
一条特别淑女的裙子,平时我不会穿,还有高跟鞋,平时我也不会穿。
A really girly dress, which I wouldn't normally wear, and heels, which I normally wouldn't wear.
所以我们俩坐在那家餐厅里,最后我饿得不行了。
So we were both sitting in this restaurant and I was really hungry at the end of it.
最后我跟他说,就算你只是带我去一家好超市里走走……
And I said to him at the end, I was like, look, even if you just take me on a walk in a really good supermarket...
或者这里怎么说来着?
Or what do they call it here?
杂货店?
Grocery store?
超级...
Super...
杂货店超市。
Grocery store supermarket.
我就觉得,那简直是你带我去的最棒的约会了。
I was like, that is, like, the most epic date you could take me on.
从货架上给我拿点好吃的。
Get me a few treats from, like, the from the shelves.
我们去无麸质素食区逛逛。
We'll go down the gluten free vegan aisle.
那会是最棒的一天。
That would be the best day.
所以在那之后,我觉得你开始有点明白了。
And so after that, I think you kind of started understanding.
我觉得我还是搞错了。
Think I still got it wrong
几次。
a few
对,几次。
times.
我觉得我就是——这就是我想说的。
I think I was just and this is my point.
你看,我们都会因为过去的经历、媒体、我们的想法之类的搞错事情。
Like, we all get stuff wrong because of previous experiences, the media, what we think, like all that kind of stuff.
我错了好一阵子,因为我一直在想。
I just kept I got it wrong for a while because I just kept thinking.
然后我就想,好吧,她喜欢吃的。
And then I was like, Okay, she likes food.
好,然后我突然明白了,哦,她喜欢美食。
Okay, let's then then I had a moment where it's like, Oh, she likes foods.
然后我就只给她买带食物梗的卡片和食物,
Then all I did was buy her cards with food puns and food,
这个我真的很喜欢。
which I really like.
然后我们约会就只去跟吃有关的地方。
And then we only went to like food places for all our dates.
关系开始变得更近了。
Was starting to get closer.
你确实做到了。
You did.
你带我去约会,我们去了一个类似杰米·奥利弗那种烹饪活动。
You took me on a date where we went cooking at like a Jamie Oliver thing.
对,那是一次
Yeah, that was
真的很好玩。
really fun.
哦,那天过得真不错。
Oh, that was a good day.
对,你做得很好。
Yeah, you did good.
你做得很好。
You did good.
不过确实,我们拍了很多照片。
But yeah, we did take a lot.
而且即使在我……他是个喜欢送礼物的人。
And even when I was and he's a gift person.
所以我的爱语是礼物和肯定的话语。
So I'm gifts and words of affirmation.
我觉得我肯定是肯定的话语和共度时光,可能主要是共度时光。
And I think I'm definitely words of affirmation and quality time, maybe quality time.
我不是那种特别喜欢礼物的人。
I'm not so much of a gift person.
我觉得我从来都不是。
I don't think I ever really have been.
比如我过生日的时候,我印象里最深的其实是小时候我爸会专门请一天假,陪我一起度过。
Even, like, on my birthdays and stuff, like, all I really remember growing up is my dad would just take a day off and spend that time with me.
我那时候特别喜欢的是这个,而不是礼物本身。
And I used to just love that aspect of it rather than the gifts.
我也喜欢礼物,但那不是我最看重的。
I do like gifts, but they're just not my main thing.
所以我当时想给你买礼物,他想要的是那种平板电脑之类的东西。
So I was trying to buy a gift for you, and he wanted, like, an iPad type thing.
不是。
No.
我确实想要一台iPad。
I wanted an iPad.
你想要……
You want...
好吧。
Okay.
行吧。
Fine.
我以为我们想要的是iPad那种东西。
I thought we wanted an iPad type thing.
所以我就到处看了看。
And so I was like looking around.
我想要的是平板电脑。
I wanted a tablet.
我以为你想要的是平板电脑。
I thought you wanted a tablet.
所以我真的在到处找最好的配置,还有特别好的细节,看哪个好,而且价格也合适。
And so I was literally looking around for the best spec and like really, really good like details of whatever was good and also good pricing.
因为很明显,好价钱很重要,如果你在卡德里,亲爱的。
Because obviously, like a good bargain is is you need that if you're in Kadri, love.
如果你在卡德里,你需要一个好价钱。
If you're Kadri, you need a good bargain.
所以我一直在看,然后我找到了这款很棒的华硕平板电脑。
And so I was looking around, and I found this amazing Asus tablet.
华硕是什么?
What is Asus?
华硕对大家来说都是个好品牌。
And Asus is a good brand to everybody.
所以我想,看。
And so I thought, look.
这款看起来真的很不错。
This looks like a really good one.
让我买下它。
Let me buy it.
买到了。
Got it.
包装好了。
Packed it up.
送给他了。
Gave it to him.
我从来没见过有人拆礼物时失望成那样,因为他说的想要一个……
I have never seen disappointment, like, so bad in my life from opening a gift because when he says he wants an...
比如平板电脑,他想要的是iPad。
Like, a tablet, he wanted an iPad.
所以我就明白了,他喜欢那种高品质、昂贵的礼物,我可能到现在还没送对过。
And so I learned that he likes really, like, good quality, expensive gifts, which I probably still haven't got.
现在,我就直接让他自己买礼物了。
Now, now I just tell him to buy some gifts.
但去年,她组织了一场最棒的惊喜生日派对。
But last year, she organized the most incredible surprise birthday party.
所以我一直很喜欢惊喜。
So I've loved surprises.
这也是我们童年时期的另一件事,等等。
And this is another thing about our childhood, etcetera.
我从小就喜欢惊喜,因为我妈妈总是在我生日时给我惊喜。
I've loved surprises since I was a kid because my mom would always surprise me my birthday.
所以我真的鼓励你反思一下你的偏好、优先事项和你喜欢的东西,它们是从哪里来的?
And so I'd really encourage you to reflect on where your preferences and priorities and things that you love get like, where does that come from?
对我来说,我对生活中和一切事物中的惊喜的热爱,来自于我妈妈在我生日时给我的惊喜。
So for me, my love for surprises in life and in everything comes from my mom surprising on my birthday.
而且随着你长大,给别人制造惊喜变得越来越难。
And I've never as you grow up, surprises become harder and harder to do for people.
去年,她组织了一场最史诗般的生日惊喜。
And last year, she organized the most epic birthday surprise ever.
那是在我生日两个月后发生的,所以我完全没有预料到。
So it happened two months after my birthday, so I was not expecting at all.
她跟我说她是在给一个朋友的活动做饭和准备餐饮。
She told me she was like cooking and catering for a friend's event.
所以她整个星期都在做饭,特别辛苦地忙这些事。
So she was cooking this whole week, like working so hard on all of this stuff.
我当时就想,这个朋友到底有多重要?
I was just like, how important is this friend?
因为她真的是费了很大的劲。
Because she was going through extreme lengths.
我心里想,哇,她对这个朋友真是尽心尽力。
And I was like, wow, like, she's really dedicated to this friend.
那也挺好的。
And that was cool.
我挺欣赏她这样做的。
Like, I appreciated it.
我喜欢看她沉浸在自己擅长的事情里,为她爱的人做饭,那画面真的很美。
And I was like, I love seeing her in an element and loving cooking for someone that she loves and that was beautiful.
然后我想我那天晚上要跟我的经理和团队去参加一个活动。
And then I think I'm going to an event with my manager and my team the same night.
所以我就说,哦,抱歉,我去不了你的活动了,等等。
So I'm like, Oh, sorry, I won't be able to make it to your event, etcetera.
就像,我有这个事,你有那个事。
Like, I've got this, you've got that.
玩得开心。
Have fun.
希望一切顺利,真的非常顺利。
Like, I hope it goes really, really well.
然后我到了,打开活动的大门。
And then I turn up, I open the door to this event.
里面全是我在洛杉矶的朋友。
It's like all of my friends from L.
就像所有我爱的人,所有真正爱我、相信我的人。
A, like everyone that I love, everyone that really loves and believes in me.
他们全都在场。
They were all there.
每个人都来了。
Everyone showed up.
她确保我关心的每一个人
She made sure that literally every single person that I care about
都在那里。
was there.
就像个跟踪狂女友,翻他手机,把他提过的每个人都找出来。
It was like a stalker girlfriend looking through his phone at everyone that he mentioned.
我当时就想,我得找到那个人的号码。
I was like, let me find that person's number.
我得拿到那个人的邮箱。
Let me get that person's email address.
而且说实话,那真的就是在我婚礼之后。
And literally, it was just genuinely after my wedding.
再说一次,当然是和她结婚了。
Again, married to her, obviously.
在那之后,发生在我身上最好的事,就是那场婚礼,真的太好了。
After that, the best thing that's ever happened to me, like, was that good.
简直太棒了。
It was just amazing.
那是最美的时刻。
Like, it was the most beautiful event.
真的非常感人,非常有意义。
It was really heartfelt, really meaningful.
我们请了一位幻术师。
We had an illusionist.
我特别喜欢魔术师和幻术师。
I love magicians and illusionists.
而且我
And I
有一场非常棒的表演,还有一个超棒的DJ用小提琴演奏了我最喜欢的几首歌。
had an incredible show, an incredible DJ playing violin to some of my favorite songs.
我所有喜欢的人都从L来了。
All my favorite people were there from from L.
A。
A.
因为婚礼就在L。
Specifically because it was in L.
A。
A.
我完全被震撼到了。
And I was just so blown away.
真的,我这辈子第一次说不出话来,因为她完全超出了我所有的预期。
Like, genuinely, I was, like, speechless for the first time in my life because she'd completely outdone any expectation I could have ever had.
这对我来说是最难的事情,因为这是我第一次想让他知道我真的懂他的爱的语言,也懂为了办成这样的事要付出的努力。第一,我直到真正开始准备才知道有多难。
Which was the hardest thing ever for me because it was the first time I wanted to show him that I really understood his love language and also like the effort that goes that that you go through to make something like that happen, one, I had no idea until I actually started going through it.
通常,我会遇到一个障碍,然后我会想,你知道吗?
And usually, I would get to a point where I would find an obstacle, and I'd be like, You know what?
我还是带他去别的地方吧。
I'll just take him somewhere instead.
算了。
Forget it.
我不需要做这个。
I don't need to do this.
但他计划很多约会时,都会投入很多心思。
But he puts in a lot of thought into a lot of the dates that he plans.
所以我真的很想让他知道,我理解他的爱语,也观察到了他的一些特点。
And so I really, really wanted to show him that I really understand it and that I've observed things about him.
我真的注意到他喜欢和欣赏什么。
And I really notice what he loves and appreciates.
所以那是我这辈子做过最难的事情。
And so it was the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life.
这太难了。
It was so hard.
我不是个会做计划的人。
I'm not a planner.
我不擅长组织安排。
I'm not good at organizing.
这绝对不是我擅长的前三项技能,就这么说吧。
I wouldn't say it's my top three skills, let's just say that.
但我真的很高兴我做到了,因为我对他的爱是唯一支撑我完成这件事的动力,不然的话,我根本不会去做,千万别找我策划派对。
But I was just so happy that I did it because and it was genuinely the love that I have for him is the only thing that got me through it because otherwise, I would have just basically never call me for party planning.
绝对不。
Never.
我不是个……
I'm not a.
我真的很幸运能遇到她,因为她还为大家做了饭。
I'm so blessed to have her in my life because and she cooked for everyone, too.
所以我
So I
做了。
did.
对,确实。
Yeah, it was.
她组织了整个活动。
Everyone she organized the event.
那里大概有80个人。
There were like 80 people there.
太棒了。
It was amazing.
我非常感激你做了这件事。
And I'm so grateful to you for doing that.
这真的是最棒的事情。
Literally is the best thing.
你喜欢就好。
I'm glad you liked it.
谢天谢地,要是你不喜欢那就尴尬了。
Thank God, because imagine you hate it.
不,我超喜欢的。
No, I loved it.
我真的很喜欢。
I loved it.
太棒了。
It was amazing.
对,真的,简直难以置信。
And and yeah, it was just it was incredible.
这也说明我们在一起快六年了。
And it just shows like we've been together now for nearly six years.
了解彼此是需要时间的。
And it takes time to learn about each other.
彼此成长需要时间。
It takes time to grow each other.
但关键是,你每天醒来时,是不是充满热情和活力,想要再次爱上那个人?
But the point is, are you waking up enthusiastic and energetic every day to fall in love with that person again?
这就是你必须问自己的问题。
Like, that's the question you have to ask yourself.
你是在寻找更多理由,让对方为你改变吗?
Like, are you looking for more reasons to get that person to change for you?
还是你在寻找更多理由,让自己说,不,我希望我们更相爱。
Or are you looking for more reasons to be like, No, I want us to feel more in love.
我希望我们更了解彼此。
I want us to learn about each other.
我希望每天都能给你更多。
I want to give more to you every day.
我希望每天都能为你变得更好。
I want to be better for you every day.
还是你在寻找那个人能为你变得更好的方式?
Or are you looking for how that person can be better for you?
如果是反过来,那这段关系很可能不会持续太久,或者会变得非常单向。
And if it's the other way around, then most likely that relationship is not going to last too long or it's going to be very one way.
但如果是想着,我每天怎么能为那个人变得更好?
But if it's like, how can I be better for that person every single day?
这可能需要时间,我们也花了不少时间来更全面地理解彼此,等等。
And it may take time and it has taken us time to completely understand each other more, etcetera.
我们经历了很多,我也想达到那个状态。
And we've been through a lot, and I want to get to that as well.
但你知道,这需要时间,只要你每天带着那个意图、那个动机、那个渴望醒来,就没关系。
But that, you know, it takes time and it's Okay as long as you're waking up every day with that intention, with that motive, with that desire.
对,我确实觉得关键在于你觉得自己能给对方带来什么,而不是你能从对方那里得到什么。
Yeah, I definitely think it's about what you feel you're bringing to the other person rather than what you feel you can get from the other person.
我觉得这会有很大的不同,因为
I think that makes such a difference because
当两个人都这么做的时候。
when both people do that.
当两个人都这么做的时候,你会觉得,好吧,这就是我能提供的。
When both people do that, when you feel like, Okay, well, this is what I can provide.
我很喜欢你刚才说的,每个人都有不同的技能,因为即使在恋爱关系中,我觉得我有……
And I love what you say about everyone having different skills because even in a relationship, I think I have...
我们在很多方面都很不一样。
We are very different in a lot of ways.
在大多数方面,我们都很不一样。
In majority of the ways, we're very different.
我得说我们完全不一样。
I had to say we're totally different.
所以,我们没有把这种差异看作是把我们分开的东西,而是真的努力去说,好吧,行。
So instead of seeing that as things that are taking us apart from each other, I think we've really tried to say, Okay, cool.
比如,我喜欢待在厨房里,而你特别擅长处理那些跟账单有关的数学问题,我真的很不想做那些事。
I love being in the kitchen, for example, and you're really good at doing all the math stuff to do with bills, I really don't want to do that.
所以与其纠结于‘哎呀,咱们在这件事上那件事上都得平分秋色’,不如干脆发挥各自的长处。
And so instead of trying to be like, Oh, no, we should be equal in doing this and doing that, no, let's just play to our strengths.
我觉得这带来了很大的改变,因为我不再被迫去做那些让我特别不自在的事。
And I think that made a huge difference because I didn't feel pressured to do things which I really don't feel comfortable doing.
要是非得让我做,我肯定也会做的。
If I had to do them, I would have.
不过谢天谢地,我们俩都自然而然地接手了对方不太擅长的那部分。
But, thankfully, we both kind of go to areas which the other person is maybe not so good at.
所以我们各展所长,也不会因为对方做不了这些事而觉得烦。
And so we just played to our strengths and we weren't annoyed at the other person for not being able to do those things.
我们很清楚彼此在不同领域各有擅长,能用这些长处为关系出力,而不是硬撑着在所有方面都当全能选手,那样对我们来说行不通。
We just understood that we have skills in different areas and we can contribute to the relationship with those skills rather than trying to be like all rounders in all areas, which doesn't work for us.
说到这个关键,我太喜欢了。
And the key to that, I love that.
关键在于,要把对方带来的价值视为同等重要。
And the key to that is valuing what the other person brings as equal
对你来说。
to you.
平等的。
Equal.
所以不是说,如果你的技能和我的不同,但我的技能能做到这个,或者我的技能能解决那个,那就更重要。
So it's like it's not saying, oh, if your skill is different to mine, but my skill does this like my skill fulfills this or my skill sorts this out like that's more important.
我觉得这就是难的地方,我们要么试图让技能平等,我同意你的看法,这不是个好主意。
And I think that's where it gets hard, where we either try and equalize our skills, which I agree with you, is not a good idea.
发挥自己的长处是好的。
It's good to play to your strengths.
或者人们做的相反的事情是,他们做自己的技能,但然后他们认为自己的技能给关系增加了更多价值。
Or the opposite thing people do is they do their skill, but then they think their skill adds more value to the relationship.
我觉得这又会毁掉一切。
And I think that, again, just ruins it.
就像你说的,你们是一个团队。
Like you said, you're on a team.
就像你看一支运动队,一个球员不能说‘我比队里其他人都重要’。
Like when you look at a sports team, one player can't say I'm more important than the rest of the team.
这是团队运动。
It's a team game.
我现在想试着用一个食物的比喻。
And I'm going to try and do a food analogy now.
我正试着用一个食物的比喻。
I'm trying to give a food analogy now.
别。
Don't
不,让我说完。
like, no, let me out.
听我说完。
Hear me out.
好,就像一种食材不能变成另一种食材。
Okay, like one ingredient can't be like the other ingredient.
我比你更重要。
I'm more important than you.
对,是的,
Yes, yeah,
对,因为你需要所有的
Yeah, because you need all of
它们。
them.
除非你是盐。
Unless your salt.
不,但即便如此。
No, but still.
但好吧,对,我承认这点。
But yeah, Okay, yeah, I'll give you that.
我承认这点。
I'll give you that.
你不能说一种食材比另一种食材更重要。
You can't have one ingredient that's more important than the other ingredient.
是的,我
Yes, I
完全同意。
totally agree.
不,我同意。
No, I agree.
你做到了。
You did.
你做得很好。
You did great.
那个食物比喻很棒。
That was a great food analogy.
但我其实记得这个,因为当我们……
But I remember this actually because when we...
我当家庭主妇有一阵子了。
I've been a housewife for a while.
就是,我在家工作,还在学习什么的。
Like, I I stay at work from home, and I'm studying and stuff.
所以我记得,你在家工作。
So I remember You work from home.
我在家工作。
I work from home.
但我还是……
But I still...
就是说……
As in...
我更像家庭主妇,而不是上班族。
I'm more of a housewife than I am working.
而且我很喜欢这样。
And I love that.
我喜欢做……
I love doing...
我喜欢做饭,也喜欢做我做的所有事情。
I love cooking, and I love doing all the things that I do do.
但我们在纽约的时候,我记得他当时在《赫芬顿邮报》工作。
But when we were in New York, I remember he was working at that time for Huffington Post.
所以他白天大部分时间都在外面,晚上才回来。
So he was out most of the day, he would just come back in the evening.
他回来的时候,我刚好做完饭。
And he would come back, and I would have just finished cooking.
他总是会说,哦,我能帮你做点什么吗?
And he would always be like, oh, like, can I do anything for you?
需要我洗碗吗?
Can I wash up?
你辛苦了一整天了。
Like, you've been working hard all day.
对我来说,这真的很重要,因为说实话,我心里想的是,他工作了一整天,但回到家还会问我需不需要按摩,或者要不要他洗碗,或者帮忙做点家务。
And that for me was such a big thing because it's like, actually, in my mind, was like, he's been working hard all day, but he would come home and ask me if I needed a massage or if I wanted him to wash up or do anything in the house.
很多人觉得这应该是理所当然的。
And a lot of people think that that should just be a given.
就像,哦,对,我整天都在做家务,所以你回家就该洗碗。
Like, oh, yeah, I've been doing the house stuff all day, so come home and you should be washing the dishes.
但我觉得,如果你看到我们,就会觉得他这么做真的很贴心,因为其实他完全可以不做。
But I just think, actually, if you see us, that's such a sweet thing for him to have done in my eyes because he could not do that.
我们都可以选择不做很多事情。
We could all just not do a lot of things.
但如果我们多付出一点努力,让对方感受到我重视你,也重视你所做的事,就像我重视自己做的事一样,那么人们……
But if we put in that extra bit of effort and show that person that I value you and what you're doing just as much as I value what I'm doing, like people...
你知道,去上班看起来是在外面辛苦工作,但你也看到我在洗衣服、打扫、做饭,而且你同样重视这些,就像重视上班一样。
You know, going to work seems like you're going out and doing the hard work, but you also saw that I was doing the washing or the cleaning or the cooking, and you valued it in the same way as going to work.
我觉得那真的很……
And I thought that was a really...
那对我来说真的很重要,而且他一直都是这样。
That was a that was a big thing for me, and he's he's been like that the whole time.
所以我觉得也是一样的。
So I I think it's the same.
对我来说也是,她真的很擅长做这件事。
I I think for me as well, like, was so good at doing that.
她会全身心投入进去,对吧?
Like she would put our heart into it, right?
不只是随便做做。
It wasn't just doing it.
我觉得这才是关键。
And I think that's the point here.
重点不在于做什么事情。
It's it's not about doing the activity.
而在于用心去做。
It's about putting your heart into it.
就像以前总是说,哦,让我给你看看,比如前几天我刚从印度回来。
Like it would always be like, oh, let me here's the like the other day I was just like we just got back from India.
在印度的时候,我经常吃多萨。
And when I'm in India, I eat doses a lot.
多萨真的超级好吃。
Doses are incredible.
如果你知道他们有多萨,就去吃一个吧。
If you know they have done all they are, go get a dose.
对。
Yes.
我超爱多萨。
And I love them.
我真的就是,我说,我想念多萨了。
And I was literally just like I was like, missed doses
每天,每天早上。
every day, every morning.
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