伊朗猛烈抨击特朗普和拜登的癌症惊天内幕及FBI对爱泼斯坦的震惊调查 | PBD播客 | 第588期

整个关于86、47和詹姆斯·科米谈论特朗普的对话，他要么是愚蠢、天真，要么就是在新书发布前最精明的营销高手。

This whole conversation of 86, 47, James Comey talking about Trump allegedly, he's either foolish, naive, or the most brilliant marketer right before a book launch.

如果我错了，这本书对我有什么好处？

How does book do me if I'm wrong.

他有一本书本周即将发布。

He has a book that is launching this week.

是的。

Yeah.

他是前FBI局长。

And he's the former FBI director.

对。

Yeah.

你居然说你不知道86、47是什么意思？

And you mean to tell me that you don't know what 86, 47 means.

听好了。

Listen.

我住在迈阿密。

I've I live in Miami.

那里到处都是海滩。

There's beaches everywhere.

我一辈子都在海滩上散步。

I've walked on beaches my whole life.

我从未在海滩的贝壳上见过86,47。

I've never seen an 86, 47 in seashells on the beach.

所以它可能有几种不同的含义。

So it can mean a couple different things.

如果你在餐厅工作，86代表牛油果没了，我们没牛油果了。

If you work in the restaurant, eighty eighty six, the guac, we're out of guac.

好吧。

Alright.

牛油果酱没了。

There's no more guacamole.

好的。

Okay.

不错。

Cool.

你知道吗，我以前在酒吧工作过。

You know, I've worked in bars before.

我以前也去过酒吧。

I've been to bars before.

嘿。

Hey.

那边有个86号顾客。

We got an eighty six customer over there.

他喝醉了。

He's drunk.

咱们把他请出去吧。

Let's get him out of here.

或者在军事领域，我们必须除掉奥萨马·本·拉登，奥萨马·本·拉登是谁？意思就是消灭他。

Or in the military world, we're gonna have to 86 of Osama Bin Laden, who's Osama Bin Laden, that means to eliminate.

他不是个傻子。

He's not an idiot.

他也不是个蠢货。

He's not a fool.

在我看来，这本质上是他为了推广自己的书而进行的一次营销行为。

This is a, in my in my opinion, a marketing endeavor for him to basically promote his book.

顺便说一下，这位就是詹姆斯·科米，他在2016年特朗普上任白宫的第一周，曾躲在一面巨大的蓝色幕布后面装高大。

By the way, this is the same James Comey who tried to hide behind a big blue curtain being six eight when, first Trump's first week in the White House in 2016.

你记得那个片段吗？

Do you remember that clip?

罗布，你有那个片段吗？

Rob, do have that clip?

我根本不知道。

I don't even know.

它就在这时发生了。

It just hit this point.

就放这段。

Play this right here.

这是特朗普上任的第一周。

This is Trump's first week in office.

嘿，詹姆斯·科米。

Hey, James Comey.

过来一下。

Come on over here.

他躲在窗帘后面。

He's hiding in a curtain.

六英尺八英寸的他走向特朗普。

Six eight walks over to Trump.

我们能看见你，伙计。

We can't we could see you, buddy.

我觉得他当时很激动。

I think he was fired up.

太庞大了。

Huge.

他试图躲在窗帘后面，简直大得离谱。

He was humongous trying to hide in a curtain.

我不知道他当时是

I didn't know he was

那就是FBI的手段。

that FBI tactics right there.

但能

But can

我说我觉得他完全知道

I say I think he knew exactly what

不过，那件事？

he thing, though?

特朗普不是已经被射中头部了吗？

It's not as if Trump wasn't shot in the head already.

没过一个月、两个月，或者多久，又有人躲在灌木丛里想杀他。

It's not like a month later or two or however long another guy was in the bushes trying to kill him.

明白吗？

Okay?

而且这些家伙，别装了。

And this is what guys, let's not pretend.

这就是左派。

This is the left.

这就是他们的做派。

This is how they do.

他们只会庆祝。

They celebrate.

特朗普被枪击时，他们在干什么？

When Trump was shot, what were they doing?

他们在跳舞。

They were dancing.

他们在庆祝。

They were celebrating.

杀了他。

Kill him.

有多少人在TikTok上发视频，盼着这事发生，结果有些人还因此被封号了。

How many clips of people on TikTok and everything hoping and getting because some of them got canceled.

Tenacious D的那个家伙呼吁枪杀总统。

The guy from Tenacious D calling for the president to be shot.

这就是左派。

That's the left.

哪个政党举着总统被割下的头颅，脸上还沾着血？

Which party holds severed head of the president with blood on his face?

哪个喜剧演员？

Which comedian?

凯西·格里芬？

Cathy Griffin?

那就是左派。

That's the left.

不是我们。

It's not us.

是他。

It's him.

现在我们知道我们终将到达那里。

And now we're I know we're gonna get there.

总统病了。

The president's sick.

不。

No.

我们说，天哪。

We're like, oh my god.

你知道，总统病了。

You know, the president's sick.

你知道吗？

You know?

我们在为他祈祷。

We're praying for him.

这不是这个政党该做的事。

That's not what this party does.

他不傻。

He's not stupid.

他很清楚自己在做什么，所以让

He knows exactly what he was So let

告诉我我刚做了什么。

tell what I just did.

罗布，你能帮我个忙吗？

Rob, can you do me a favor?

代码给ChatGPT，它由萨姆·阿尔特曼和OpenAI运营，他和马斯克未必是好朋友，然后在这里输入接下来的内容。

Code to chat GBT, which is ran by Sam Altman, OpenAI, him and Elon are not necessarily best of friends and type in the follow on thing here.

我说，如果有一天我考虑担任FBI局长，你能给我描述一下我的日常是怎样的吗？

I said, if one day I'm thinking about being the director of the FBI, can you give me an idea of what my day to day looks like?

我会处理哪些事情？

What things do I work on?

好的。

Okay.

ChatGPT会说，这人有一天想当FBI局长。

Chad GPT is going to be like, this guy wants to be the director of FBI one day.

好的。

Okay.

所以，罗布，你和我目前都是候选人。

So Rob, both of you and I are two candidates right now.

他们正在评估我们是否适合担任FBI局长。

They're sizing up to see if we're going be directors of FBI.

这里写着呢。

Here's what it says.

然后我有一个后续问题，非常有趣。

And then I got a follow-up question, which is very interesting.

好的。

Okay.

它说，你的一天从早晨的情报简报开始，即每日威胁概览。

It says your day to day starts off with morning intelligence briefings, your daily threat overview.

你会以最高机密简报开始你的一天，内容涉及国家安全威胁、国内和国际恐怖主义。

You'll start your day off with top secret briefings, one national security threats, domestic and international terrorism.

你好。

Hello.

国内威胁。

Domestic threat.

这是一起刚刚发生的国内威胁。

That's a domestic threat that just happened right now.

间谍活动、网络攻击、有组织犯罪、局势更新、重大调查进展、持续的反恐行动协调，包括与CIN、SADHS等其他机构的合作，以及危机管理。

Espionage, cyber attacks, organized crime, situation updates, updates on high profile investigations, ongoing counter in terms of operations coordination with other agents like CIN, SADHS, crisis management.

如果发生持枪行凶、恐怖阴谋、重大网络入侵或国家紧急事件，你将处于应对行动的最前沿。

If there's an active shooter, terrorist plot, a major cyber breach, or national emergency, you're the front and center in the response.

你处于最前沿。

You are the front and center.

你可能需要与总统、司法部长、国家安全官员进行保密通话。

You may be on secured calls with the president, attorney general, national security.

监督。

Oversight.

联邦调查局拥有超过三万五千名员工。

FBI has over 35,000 employees.

你将负责管理这一切。

You'll run that.

对国会和公众的责任。

Congressional public accountability.

砰。

Boom.

好的。

Okay.

太好了。

Great.

政治压力与独立性。

Political, pressures and independence.

FBI本应保持独立，但现实中，你将不断在来自各方的政治雷区中周旋。

FBI is supposed to be independent, but in reality, you'll constantly navigate political minefields from both sides.

每个涉及政治人物、民权的调查。

Every investigation involving politicians, civil rights.

好的。

Okay.

太好了。

Great.

高层会议。

High level meetings.

你会定期参加这些会议。

You'll regularly have these meetings.

很好。

Great.

七、人事和政策决策。

Seven, personnel and policy decisions.

你会签署重大事项。

You'll sign up on major.

好的。

Okay.

很好。

Great.

明白了。

Got it.

辉瑞公司作出保证。

Pfizer warrants.

你还需要危机管理能力、保持冷静、法律与宪法专业知识、政治敏锐度、强大的心理素质、高层领导力以及绝密级别安全许可。

You'll also need crisis management, stay calm, legal and constitutional expertise, political savvy and thick skin, executive level leadership, top secret clearance.

没问题。

No problem.

这是我的后续问题。

Here's my follow-up question.

你准备好了吗？

You ready?

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

我的后续问题是，联邦调查局局长应该知道86的含义吗？

My follow-up question was, should the director of the FBI know what 86 stands for?

留意查德·GBT怎么说。

Watch what Chad GBT says.

如果我们知道86的含义，那FBI会怎样？

What FB if we know what 86 stands for.

我们来看看他给我的回答是不是和给你的答案一样。

Let's see if it's gonna be the same answer that he gives me as it gives you.

是的，当然。

Yes, absolutely.

FBI局长绝对应该知道86的含义。

The director of the FBI should absolutely know what 86 means stands for.

俚语的定义。

Slang's definition.

86的意思是取消或拒绝，清除或消除。

86 means to cancel or reject it, get rid or eliminate.

好的。

Okay.

在执法和情报领域，它可能带有更严重或致命的含义。

Law enforcement, intelligence means it can carry a more serious or lethal connotation.

目标已被86，已清除。

Target was 86, neutralized.

FBI的语境。

FBI context.

它继续说，这是一种代码语言，街头俚语。

It continues saying, code of language, street slang.

FBI直接向海外行动，不仅限于自身行动，还包括跨机构协作。

The FBI direct to overseas, not only operations, but interagencies.

所以你很清楚86的含义。

So you know exactly what 86 stands for.

看看这个。

Look at this.

根本不需要验证它。

Don't even validate it.

所以，是的，绿色对勾。

So, yes, green check mark.

是的

Yeah.

但是

But

我从没见过LGBT上有绿色对勾标记。

I don't think I've ever seen a green check mark on LGBT.

这种就是

This is the kind of

你这么做会失去公信力。

stuff that you do that you lose credibility.

我认为民主党人知道这一点。

I think democrats know it.

看。

Look.

有些民主党人知道并支持这一点。

There's democrats that know it and support it.

K？

K?

什么意思？

Meaning meaning what?

意思是把他们除掉。

Meaning meaning take them out.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

Of course.

有一些民主党人

There's Democrats that

你认为真正支持特朗普的民主党人占多大比例？

What percentage do you think of actual Democrats, Trump paying Democrats?

和你想象的一样多。

As big as you think.

没你想象的那么大。

I I It's not as big as you think.

我觉得有。

I think it is.

我跟你说，没你想象的那么大。

I'm telling you it's not as big as you think.

那么，文尼，你觉得有多大？

Well, Vinny, how big do you think it is?

我个人认为，而且我很确定，罗布，以及大多数民主党人，如果唐纳德·特朗普今天被枪杀的话

I I personally think, and I'm pretty sure, Rob, and the majority of Democrats, if Donald Trump was shot and killed today

不会。

No.

不会。

No.

这不是问题所在。

That's not the question.

什么？

What?

暗杀？

Assassinated?

有多少比例的民主党人希望特朗普被暗杀？

Percentage of Democrats would want Trump to be 86?

超过50%。

More than 50%.

不。

No.

我甚至觉得这完全不对。

I don't I don't even very wrong.

我不同意。

I disagree.

我觉得这个比例很高。

I I think it's high.

是的。

Yeah.

等等。

Wait.

等等。

Wait.

通过

By the

顺便问一下，你现在在哪？

way, that is where where you at?

我在低位。

I'm at I'm low.

你知道为什么吗？

You know why?

如果现在特朗普输了

If you if if if there was a loss of Trump right now

是的。

Yeah.

死亡、暗杀，不管是什么，但愿别发生，猜猜谁会当总统？

Death, assassination, whatever, God forbid any of it, guess who's president?

J。

J.

D。

D.

万斯。

Vance.

那不是他们想要的，因为现在他正在获得支持，他们根本不想这样。

That's not what they want because now he's getting they don't want that at all.

他们没想那么远。

Don't think they're thinking that far

ahead.

in advance.

这将在保守派一方成为一个激励性的转折点，而此时我们刚刚经历了一些经济不确定性并略有复苏。

It would be a galvanizing point on the conservative side at a point where we've had some economic uncertainty, a little bit of bounce back.

我们仍在等待关于中国的永久性解决方案，但我认为民主策略家们

We're still waiting for a permanent solution on China, but I don't think democratic strategist

想要谁

want Who's

最后一个被暗杀的共和党总统是谁？

the last who's the last Republican president that got assassinated?

他们被暗杀了？

They got assassinated?

肯尼迪。

JFK.

哦，共和党。

Oh, Republican.

共和党。

Republican.

肯尼迪本该是共和党人。

JFK would've been Republican.

他今天本该是共和党人。

He would've been Republican today.

但是

But

嗯，里根遇刺事件中的塔姆

Well, Reagan assassination of Tam

亚伯拉罕·林肯。

Abraham Lincoln.

好吧。

Okay.

亚伯拉罕·林肯遇刺后，继任总统是谁？

And when Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, who was president afterwards?

尤利西斯·S。

Ulysses S.

格兰特。

Grant.

尤利西斯·S.是谁？

Who was Ulysses S.

格兰特？

Grant?

他是他的副总统。

Was his vice president.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

他是他的副总统。

He was his vice president.

首先，任期很短。

First of was a short term.

我不认为安德鲁·约翰逊是这样的，我完全不把民主党人看作邪恶的。

Don't think Andrew Johnson was I completely don't look at Democrats as evil.

我真觉得人天生就是左脑或右脑主导。

I literally think people are born left brain, right brain.

许多富有创造力的右脑型人会倾向于左翼。

And many of the creative right brains will lean left.

而许多左脑型、逻辑性强、擅长数字和数据分析的人最终会倾向于右翼。

And many of the left brain logical analytical numbers data will eventually lean right.

我认为其中一部分与你的成长环境有关。

I think a part of it is your upbringing.

我认为其中一部分与你的族裔背景有关。

I think a part of it is your ethnicity.

你被灌输了什么，有哪些肯定性话语，所有这些东西。

What's been fed to you, affirmations, all this stuff.

宣传的力量非常强大。

There's so much power in propaganda.

宣传的力量非常强大。

There is so much power in propaganda.

其中一些是好的。

Some of it is good.

其中一些是坏的。

Some of it is bad.

它的力量非常强大。

There's so much power in it.

我不认为情况是这样的。

I don't think that's the case.

我认为，那些不知道8647含义的人群不到5%。

I think I think this is something where the group of people that didn't know what eighty six forty seven means is less than 5%.

95%的人完全明白8647的含义。

95% knows exactly what eighty six forty seven means.

嗯。

Mhmm.

而那5%不知道它意思的人，很可能不是在美国出生的。

And the 5% that doesn't know what it means probably wasn't born in America.

明白吗？

K?

他们是在其他地方出生的。

They were born somewhere else.

懂吗？

Okay?

所以他们就会说，是的。

So they're like, yeah.

86号公路是我以前在墨西哥、伊朗或别的地方开车时走过的路。

'86 was a road I used to drive back in, you know, Mexico or Iran or whatever.

我以前常走86号高速公路。

I used to drive on the 86 Freeway.

他们对它的理解方式是不一样的。

They look at it in a different way.

但联邦调查局局长竟然这么说，我当然希望他们能进一步深入调查。

But for the director FBI to say this, I certainly hope they investigate a little bit more.

罗布，这件事有点奇怪的原因是，总统接下来三天的推文会说什么？

And the reason why this is a little bit weird, Rob, because what are what are the president's tweets the next three days?

首先，他针对的是科米。

First, he goes after Comey.

然后他又攻击希拉里·克林顿，并在Truth Social上发布了一段神秘的视频。

Then he goes after Hillary Clinton and post this video, this cryptic video on his Truth Social.

就是这段视频。

This one right here.

播放一下这个片段。

Play the clip.

看看这段视频。

Watch this one here.

约翰·F。

John F.

小约翰·肯尼迪。

Kennedy junior.

他在1999年被宣布为纽约参议员席位的领先候选人。

He was declared the front runner for the New York senate seat back 1999.

几天后，他的飞机坠入大西洋，他的对手希拉里·克林顿当选为参议员。

Days later, his plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean, and his rival, Hillary Clinton, was elected senator.

好的。

Okay.

玛丽·马奥尼曾是克林顿白宫的

Mary Mahoney was a Clinton White

参议院议员。

House senator.

好了，罗布。

There, Rob.

所以他发布了这个。

So he post this.

所以看这个。

So watch this.

科米，按顺序来。

Comey, sequencing.

然后他针对希拉里，按顺序来。

Then goes after Hillary, sequencing.

希拉里之后，他接下来针对谁？

Right after Hillary, he goes after who?

卡玛拉。

Kamala.

他发帖说卡玛拉正在调查碧昂丝那边发生了什么。

He posts about Kamala investigating what's going on with Beyonce.

我想知道你为什么骗人，让他们付钱来换取选票。

I wanna find out why you were scamming people to pay them to get their vote.

所以这就是用欺骗手段获取他人选票的方式。

So that is scamming ways of getting someone's vote.

所以是卡玛拉。

So Kamala.

那在卡玛拉之后，你接下来找谁？

Then after Kamala, you go to who?

卡玛拉之后，他接着针对谁？罗布。

He goes after who after Kamala Rob.

所以他接下来针对的是谁？我们先看谁？

So he goes after so you got, who do we have first?

他先针对科米，然后是希拉里，接着是卡玛拉，最后是奥巴马。

He goes after Comey first, then Hillary, then Kamala, and then Obama.

奥巴马。

Obama.

所以你按照这个事件序列一个接一个地追溯。

So you go in this sequencing of events back to back to back.

这是那条推文。

This is the tweet.

对吧？

Right?

根据新闻报道，碧昂丝被支付了1100万美元，上台支持卡马拉，然后大声离开。

According to news port, Beyonce was paid $11,000,000 to walk on stage, endorse Kamala, and walk off loudly.

记住，民主党与卡马拉非法支付了数百万美元，用于这种非法的竞选活动。

Remember the Democrats and Kamala illegally paid millions of dollars like this illegal elections campaign.

布鲁斯·斯普林斯汀、奥普拉·邦邦·波诺，或许还有其他人，都需要好好解释一番。

Bruce Springsteen, Oprah Bon Bon Bono Bono, and perhaps many others have a lot of explaining to do.

那么，他接下来针对的是奥巴马。

So then the next person he goes after is Obama.

你有奥巴马的那个吗？没有。

Do you have the Obama one, No.

我可以找到。

I can find it.

是的。

Yeah.

然后他针对奥巴马。

Then he goes after Obama.

他在说什么？

What's he saying?

他在说什么？

What's he saying?

他在做什么？

What's he doing?

他想抢先说什么？

What's he getting ahead of?

他想表达什么？

What's he trying to say?

也许他知道些什么。

Maybe he knows something.

也许他得到了一些内部消息。

Maybe he got some intel.

也许他正在采取这种进攻策略。

Maybe he's playing such offense.

所有线索都指向奥巴马。

All roads lead to Obama.

如果你想要公开的军事法庭，就重新核实。

Retruth if you want public military tribunal.

所有真相都指向奥巴马。

All truths lead to Obama.

所以接着拜登的故事被曝光了，我们听到了这个消息。

So you got then Biden's story comes out, which we hear about.

罗布，如果你准备好了，拜登的故事被曝光了。

And Rob, if you want to get this one ready, Biden's story comes out.

美国总统乔·拜登被诊断出患有侵袭性前列腺癌。

President Joe Biden diagnosed with aggressive form of prostate cancer.

好的。

Okay.

侵袭性前列腺癌。

Aggressive form of prostate cancer.

我们来看看这个。

Let's see this one here.

所以，你知道，前总统乔·拜登，82岁，于周五被诊断出患有侵袭性前列腺癌，其特征为格里森评分9分、分级组5级，并伴有骨转移，医生在发现前列腺结节后，结合其尿路症状加重的情况作出诊断；他的发言人表示，尽管这代表了疾病的一种更具侵袭性的形式，但癌症似乎对激素敏感，因此可以有效控制。

So, you know, former president Joe Biden, aged 82, was diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer on Friday, characterized by Gleason score of nine, grade group five with, metastasis, to the bone after doctors found a prostate, nodal, following increased urinary symptoms with his spokesperson stating while this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows the effective management.

特朗普总统发表声明说：“梅拉尼娅和我听到这个消息感到难过。”

President Trump came out and said, Melania and I are saddened to hear this news.

最近的医疗诊断。

Recent medical diagnosis.

我们向吉尔和家人致以最温暖和美好的祝愿，并祝愿乔早日康复。

We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.

对吧？

Right?

他说的是这个。

He says this.

罗布，这个片段是哪个？

Rob, what clip is this one here?

所以，我在MSNBC和News Nation上看到医生们讨论，考虑到这种癌症的侵袭性和分期，乔·拜登今天才得知这个诊断结果是不可能的

So I have, doctors on both MSNBC and News Nation talking about how it would be impossible for Joe Biden to just find out about this diagnosis today considering how aggressive the cancer is in the stages that are

就在里面。

in there.

明白。

Go it.

说吧。

Go for it.

我们来看看。

Let's see it.

前列腺癌已经扩散到骨骼，他可能已经患病长达十年，但至少可以说，他很可能已经患病数年了？

Prostate cancer has spread to the bone that he could have had it for up to a decade, but certainly it's likely would it be fair to say it's likely to have had this for at least several years?

远远不止数年。

Oh, more than several years.

你不会得前列腺癌吧？

You don't get prostate cancer?

我只想打断你一下。

I I can I I just I just wanna stop you?

你的意思是，这并不是猜测。

So yours you this is this is not speculation.

如果你得了已经扩散到骨骼的前列腺癌，那么正如你所说，他当美国总统时就已经患上了。

If you have prostate cancer that is spread to the bone, then he's most certainly, you were saying, had it when he was president of The United States.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

他不是在最近的一百天或两百天才得上的。

He did not develop it in the last, hundred, two hundred days.

他在任总统期间就已经患上了。

He had it while he was president.

他很可能在2021年刚就任总统时就已经患上了。

He probably had it at the start of his presidency, in 2021.

是的。

Yes.

这一点，我认为没有人会对此有异议。

That, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.

该死。

Damn.

而且

And

他们甚至不知道该说什么。

and and and They don't even know what to say.

我只是好奇

I'm just curious

再次。

again.

如果你会跌跌撞撞，如果你

If you will stumbling If your

从医生到美国总统

doctor to a president of The United States down

同样的钉子，我喘不过气。

the same nail I can't breathe.

那是一位年长的男性，会进行前列腺检查，而我们只是在讨论PSA筛查，一种可以和其他血液检查一起做的血液检测。

That is an older man, would a prostate test and again, we're we're we're just talking about a PSA screening, a blood test that you could do along with all the other blood tests.

所以，这根本算不上侵入性检查。

And so it's not even that it would be intrusive.

作为白宫医生，这不应该是你做的第一项检查吗？

Would would this not be one of the first tests that you would conduct as a White House doctor?

如果你是这位情况下的白宫医生，我认为你肯定会与总统讨论这项检查的利弊。

If you're a White House doctor in this situation, I think, you would certainly discuss it with, the president and talk about the pros and cons.

我认为，如果你接着问总统本人

I think if you then ask both if president

拜登，我们来看看News Nation另一方面怎么说。

Biden Let's see what News Nation says on the other hand.

你是说，即便是在医疗条件不足的人群里，突然被诊断出格里森评分为9的前列腺癌也很反常。

You're saying even in a medically neglected population, it would be surprising to to have a surprise diagnose diagnosis with a Gleason score of nine.

那你的意思是，哪怕在他还在椭圆办公室履职时，你都认为他早就知道自己患有前列腺癌？甚至在2020年参选、还没上任的时候他就可能知情了？

So you're saying that certainly as in he was the Oval Office, you believe that he knew that he had prostate cancer and even potentially as he was running in 2020 before he assumed office?

呃，他罹患前列腺癌应该有很长一段时间了，而且他这种侵袭性的前列腺癌，在80岁的患者身上，是经过很长时间才发展成现在这样的。

Well, likely he had prostate cancer for a long time and aggressive prostate cancers such as this at age 80 grows over a long period of time.

我的意思是，通常就算是侵袭性最强的前列腺癌，从确诊到癌细胞扩散也需要5到10年的时间。

I mean, usually it takes, from the first diagnosis of prostate cancer to spread, would take five to ten years, even in the most aggressive form.

对我来说，首次确诊就直接是转移阶段的癌症，而且还是格里森评分9分的前列腺癌，甚至都没有查看过他的PSA历史记录，这实在太令人意外了。

It's just to me, it seems very surprising that it would the first diagnosis would be a metastatic diagnosis, especially Gleason nine cancer, without, you know, having his PSA history.

汤姆，你怎么看？

Tom, thoughts?

是这样的，我读过很多关于前列腺癌的资料，不光是这48小时里为这件事查的，之前就了解过，因为对男性来说，我们应该在40岁出头就开始做PSA检测，建立一个基准值，之后还要定期复查。

So, you know, I've read a lot about prostate cancer and not only in the last forty eight hours on this, but previously, because for men, you you want to start a PSA test and get a baseline in your early forties, and then you continue that.

如果PSA值哪怕只出现一点点波动，都要重视，帕特，这就像每个人的静息脉搏都不一样是同一个道理。

And if that PSA moves even a little bit because all of our p just like all of us have a different resting pulse, Pat.

你明白我的意思吗？

You know what I mean?

你的可能是80，而长跑者的可能是67。

My your may be 80, distance runner may be 67.

每个人都会有一个基线PSA值。

Everyone will have a baseline PSA score.

如果这个数值上升，那么你就需要进行更积极的血液筛查和其他前列腺检查，以查明情况。

And if that score goes up, then you now go to aggressive blood screening and other forms of prostate tests to find out what's going on.

所以最后一位医生说，是的，如果你正在接受积极治疗，通常需要五年左右才会转移到骨骼。

And so the last doctor said, Yeah, if you're in active treatment, it takes about five years to metastasize to bone, typically.

我不是医生。

I'm not the doctor.

这是医生们说的，也是文章里写的。

This is what the doctors are saying, and this is what the articles are saying.

因此，他很可能在就任总统时就已经有升高的PSA值和前列腺癌的迹象，而公众对此一无所知。

So he likely entered the presidency with elevated PSA, signs of prostate cancer, and the public didn't know about it.

他不仅表现出精神衰退的迹象——这些迹象已无可争议，且长期以来被隐瞒，有关隐瞒的说法曾被视为阴谋——他还患有前列腺癌，并已发展到骨转移，却依然竞选总统。

And not only did he have the signs of mental decline, which are no longer debatable and have been hidden and were conspiracies behind the hiding of it, he had prostate cancer escalating to metastasizing to the bone and he ran for president.

这充分说明，他的健康状况存在多个问题，本不该参选总统。

It just shows you that his health had multiple angles he should not have run.

文尼？

Vinny?

首先，就像科米的8647事件一样，真的有人相信他们对此一无所知吗？

Well, first and foremost, do like, just like with Comey with his eighty six forty seven, does anybody believe that they didn't know, honestly?

没有。

No.

比如，感谢你，汤姆。

Like, did any thank you, Tom.

他的精神衰退、他的癌症，也请想想这一点。

His mental decline, his cancer think about this too.

他是历史上最年长的总统。

He's the oldest president in history.

他在总统任期内患有皮肤癌。

He had skin cancer during his presidency.

你们还记得吧。

You guys remember that.

他脚骨折过，两次严重感染新冠，当选前还经历过两次脑动脉瘤，我们却要相信他没有得到24小时不间断的监护。

He had a broken foot, COVID really bad twice, two brain aneurysms before he got in, and we're supposed to believe that he wasn't monitored around the clock.

是的。

Yeah.

对，对，帕特？

Right right, Pat?

我不清楚你身边得有多少医生才能照顾这个人。

I I don't know how many doctors you must have around this guy.

他在竞选期间就已经治好了皮肤癌。

He beat already got rid of skin cancer during his election.

我要让罗布播放这段，帕特。

And I'm gonna have Rob play this, Pat.

他在2022年承认了，他说，你们会听到的，我在一次演讲中得了癌症，地点是在马萨诸塞州，等等，是弗吉尼亚州，7月20日。

He admitted in 2022, he says, you're gonna hear it, I have cancer during a speech in in Massachusetts in I'm sorry, in Virginia, July 20.

继续吧，罗布。

Go ahead, Rob.

播放这个片段。

Play this clip.

因为那是一条四车道的高速公路，可以通行，我母亲开车带我们，而不是让我们走路。

And because it was a four lane highway that was accessible, my mother drove us and rather than us be able to walk.

猜猜怎么着？

And guess what?

第一场霜冻来了，你知道发生了什么吗？

The first frost, you know what was happening.

你必须打开雨刷器，才能把窗户上的油膜彻底擦掉。

You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.

这就是为什么我和我成长过程中认识的那么多人都得了癌症。

That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer.

为什么这么长时间都没人问呢？

And why can't for the longest time?

特拉华州曾是全美癌症发病率最高的州。

Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation.

罗布，再播放最后十秒。

Play the last ten seconds again, Rob.

就在这里。

Right there.

是的。

Yeah.

很好。

That's good.

用雨刷器清除窗上的油污。

Wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.

这就是为什么我和我成长过程中那么多人都得了癌症。

That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer.

那为什么这么久以来都不行呢？

And why can't for the long time?

主流媒体说，什么啊，他根本就没说过这种话。

The mainstream media said, well, he wasn't saying this.

和我一起长大的所有人都得了癌症。

All the other people I grew up with had cancer.

那时候他们就是这么说的。

At the time, that's what they said.

好的。

Okay.

当时他们对我说起这件事的时候，你也知道

At the time, when they say, to me but, you know

因为他确实切除过某种皮肤癌的病灶。

because he did have some sort of skin cancer removed.

还有，亚当，你现在

And, Adam, you're

准备好了吗？

ready for this?

我们简直惊呆了，天哪。

We're so like, oh my god.

他在说胡话。

He's talking crazy.

人们忽略了这一点，因为我们觉得他疯了。

People brushed over this because we thought he was nuts.

但事实上，有两件事。

But, like, it's there's two things.

要么他们骗了我们，要么甚至可能是这样。

Either they lied to us or maybe even this.

我在想，反过来，汤姆，如果他们根本没告诉他呢？

I was thinking on the on the flip side, Tom, what if they never told him?

如果计划就是，别对他隐瞒这件事呢？

What if the plan was, like, don't keep this shit from him.

我们本来就不太喜欢他。

We don't like him anyway.

好的。

Okay.

那那个四分卫是谁？

Then who is that quarterback?

吉尔？

Jill?

哪个四分卫？

Who quarterback

那场进攻？

that play?

汤姆，问得好。

Tom, great question.

也许是安东尼·布林肯？

Maybe Anthony Blinken?

也许是安东尼·布林肯。

Maybe Anthony Blinken.

那个总和他一起坐飞机的小个子另一个人是谁？

Who was the other other guy the other little guy that was always on the plane with him?

因为如果你仔细想想，奥巴马并不喜欢他。

Because if you think about it, Obama doesn't like him.

在2016年希拉里参选时，尽管他是副总统，奥巴马也没有支持他。

Obama didn't endorse him in 2016 when Hillary ran even though he was his VP.

奥巴马曾告诉人们，不要低估乔把事情搞砸的能力。

Obama told people, don't underestimate Joe's ability to f things up.

明白吗？

Okay?

我不觉得这像是一种牺牲，因为在2019年，他们

I don't think this is a it almost feels like a sacrifice because because in 2019, what they

说：你不觉得他心里清楚吗？

said You don't think he knew?

你难道觉得

You don't think

他……帕特，我觉得他当时确实被搞乱了，但那些人就只是——

he I think he felt messed up, Pat, but when they're like, just

我不太清楚。

I don't know.

我不信任他们。

I don't trust them.

我明白，我能理解这一点。

I don't I get that.

但在我看来，从这个角度出发的话，这件事该怪谁呢？

But but to me, I think so from from this perspective, who, who is it to blame?

你看过他上《观点》那档节目。

You watch him on The View.

罗伯，你还记得三周前他刚上过那档节目吗？

Rob, can you, do you have him on The View just like three weeks ago?

是的

Yep.

我可以去拿一个

I can grab a

片段。

clip.

在《观点》节目中，你看着他，当有人问他问题时，吉尔立刻就意识到情况不妙，马上插话。

And on The View, you watch him, when he's being asked a question and Jill sees that this is bad within no time, she jumps in.

她甚至都不让他把话说完。

And she she she doesn't even let him.

只有两分钟。

It's two minutes.

对。

Yeah.

让她提个开放性问题，然后快进。

Let let her app ask open ended question and then fast forward.

请说。

Go ahead.

是的。

Yeah.

总统先生，自从您卸任以来，出现了许多源自民主派消息来源的书籍，声称在您总统任期的最后一年，您的认知能力出现了显著下降。

Mister president, since you left office, there have been a number of books that have come out, deeply sourced from democratic sources that claim in your final year, there was a dramatic decline in your cognitive abilities in the in the final year of your presidency.

您如何回应这些指控？还是说这些消息来源是错误的？

What is your response to these allegations, or are these sources wrong?

什么来源？它们是错的。

What sources They are wrong.

首先，没有任何证据能支持这种说法。

There's nothing to sustain that, number one.

其次，您想想，我们最终剩下的是什么。

Number two, you know, think of what, what we're left with.

我们剩下的是一个发生了暴乱的局面。

We're left with a circumstance where we, we had a insurrection

他妈的这是什么

What the hell is

当我上任的时候。

when I started.

我们自内战以来从未有过。

We the not since the civil war.

吉尔怎么了？

What's Jill?

我们曾处于一种境地，

We had a circumstance where we were in a position that

她会再给他二十个

we She's gonna give him 20 more

由于上一届政府的无能，疫情才变得如此严重。

The pandemic because of the incompetence in the last outfit.

结束

End

往上

up over

她身边有很多人。

many people she's at.

很多人正在死去。

Many people dying.

半痛。

Semi pain.

我们还面临一种情况，发现自己无法应对许多基本问题，出于时间考虑，我就不详细展开了。

We're also in a situation where we found ourselves unable to deal with a lot of just basic issues, and which I won't go into in the interest of time.

于是我们开始行动。

And so we went to work.

她知道她会介入。

She she knows she's gonna jump in.

你知道，其中一件事是，呃，我我

And, you know, one of the things that that well, I'm I'm

而且，艾莉莎，我认为写那些书的人并没有和我们待在白宫里。

Well, and Alyssa, you know, one of the things I think is that the people who wrote those books were not in the White House with us.

你可以暂停一下

You can pause

这个问题。

the question.

看看有多难

See how hard

乔是

Joe is

当你照顾一个生病且状态不佳的人时，你就成了父母。

when you have somebody that's sick and they're not doing well, you become the parent.

当你成为父母时，昨晚我一直在急诊室待到十二点半。

And when you become the parent, last night I'm at ER till 12:30.

对。

Right.

我和我的一个孩子在一起，没什么大不了的，但我就在那儿。

And I'm with one of my kids, not a big deal, but I'm there.

好的。

Okay.

不，不，不。

It's like, no, no, no.

我说，听着，我现在最重要的责任是为家人做出正确的决定。

I said, listen, my responsibility is to make the right decision for the family right now.

我现在就带你走。

I'm taking you right now.

我们走。

We go.

已经安排好了。

Scored away.

很好。

Good.

准备好了。

Good to go.

我们继续。

We move on.

对吧？

Right?

就在那之前的同一周。

Same week before that.

嘿，我现在就带你走。

Hey, I'm taking you right now.

砰。

Boom.

我们现在就走。

We're going right now.

米奇带他走。

Mickey takes him.