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真正成功的人不会八卦。
Feel successful people don't gossip.
成功人士在保守秘密方面确实非同寻常,他们不会向任何人泄露信息。
Successful people actually are extraordinary keeping secrets they gossip to no information.
你永远不会看到一个不擅长保守秘密的富人。
You will never see a wealthy person who is terrible at keeping secrets.
当富二代或富三代不擅长保守秘密时,他们的财富就会流失。
The moment second third generation who is not good at keeping secrets they wealth will move away.
你从小就擅长保守秘密吗?
Were you good at keeping secrets from childhood?
不,我擅长赢得人们的信任。
No, I was good at keeping people's trust.
等等,你确实做到了。
Wait that you did.
生活中最快被称作愚蠢的方式,就是对政治权力发表意见。
Fastest way to be called stupid in life is to have an opinion about power of politics.
为什么?
Why?
因为什么?
You will notice that people who talk a lot about politics are usually powerless in life.
如何实现这个功能?
What is your fear today?
请参考以下步骤
Fearr or poor.
没人真正想和穷人混在一起。
Nobody really wants to hang around with poor people.
你还在某个地方说过,大多数印度人满足于平庸的职业。
You've also said somewhere, most Indians settle for average career.
关于纪律和野心的真相是什么?
What's the truth about discipline and ambition?
因为很多人自认为很有野心。
Because lot of people think they're ambitious.
真正有抱负的人从不会说自己有抱负。
Most ambitious people will never say they're ambitious.
他们只是埋头做事,创造价值。
They're just doing stuff, building stuff.
他们不会在推特、Instagram或领英上写满这些标签词。
They don't write all these tag words on their Twitter or Instagram or LinkedIn.
有很多人因为言行尴尬而出名。
There are many people who are famous for being cringe.
你不会尊重他们0。
You won't respect them.
你有什么不安全感吗?
Do you have any insecurity?
有时候,即使你做对了所有事,还是会出现问题。
At times, even when you're doing everything right, something still goes wrong.
比如,你已经准备好拍摄,却发现忘了带麦克风。
Like, you are already for a shoot but you realize you forgot the mic.
或者队友需要一份文件,但没人有空去送。
Or a teammate needs a document but there's no 1 free to go drop it.
这些问题会拖慢你的进度。
These problems slow you down.
这就是为什么我使用Porto。
That's why I use Porto.
它通过按需提供两轮车和卡车送货服务,帮助我节省时间和精力,满足我所有大小物品的配送需求。
It helps me save time and effort by offering on demand 2 wheeler and truck delivery services for all small and big things as per my needs.
他们的即时取件和可靠配送不仅省力,还能让人安心。
Their instant pick up and reliable deliveries not only reduce effort, but also bring peace of mind.
无论你是自由职业者、初创公司还是成熟企业都适用。
And it doesn't matter if you are a freelancer, a startup or an established company.
Portus से delivery है, हो जाएगा。
Portus से delivery है, हो जाएगा.
我们今天的嘉宾Cred创始人库纳尔·沙阿也认同这种思维方式。
And our today's guest कुनाल शाह, founder of Cred also agrees with this way of thinking.
他不仅比别人更早发现问题,还会质疑它们为何存在以及如何解决。
He doesn't just spot problems before other people, he questions why they exist and how he can fix them.
在本期节目中,他将谈及目前最大的恐惧是什么?
In today's episode, he talks about what is his biggest fear right now?
他在追求什么?
What is he chasing?
名誉、权力还是金钱。
Fame, power or money.
一个人能否像培养技能一样培养野心?
Can someone build ambition like a skill?
为什么我们的社会无法接受失败?
Why are we not acceptable of failure as a society?
一个人如何从平庸之辈跻身精英之列?
How can a person go from being mediocre to earning a place with an A plus crowd?
为什么诚信是成功的重要基石?
And why is being a trustworthy person a huge part of success?
请完整观看这一集,并在评论区告诉我你从这次对话中学到了什么?
Watch this episode till the end and tell me in the comments what did you learn from this conversation?
就像我第一次做大型播客时,我只是在问我的团队'这是真的吗?'
Like my first big podcast I was just telling my team Oh is that true?
(混合语言部分,保留原文)मेरा first उसके पहले I have done 50 60 episodes.
मेरा first उसके पहले I have done 50 60 episodes.
(肯定回应)हां。
हां.
(印地语部分)कोई भी hundred k views भी नहीं गए थे。
कोई भी hundred k views भी नहीं गए थे.
(连接词)And
And
(混合语言部分)yours was the first जो hundred k से बाहर गया
yours was the first जो hundred k से बाहर गया
(印地语肯定)था and did it.
था and did it.
我记得第一句话,我们也把它放进了播客里,那期播客的开头说的是‘我很紧张’。
I remember the first line and we put it out in podcast as well view में उस podcast में start होता है कि I am nervous.
然后你问我‘为什么紧张?’
And you tell me कि क्यों nervous हो रहा है?
你还记得那是在CRES吗?
You remember it was in cres?
是的,我确实记得。
Yes, I do remember.
但真的得夸夸你,老兄。
But like it's it's like kudos to you, man.
这绝非易事,你所达成的是绝对精英运动员级别的成就。
This is not, it is absolutely elite athlete level achievement what you have done.
相当厉害,伙计。
Pretty cool, man.
谢谢。
Thank you.
这对我意义重大。
It means a lot.
不,这是,这是,这是应得的赞誉,伙计。
No, it is, it is, it is whatever is like credit where it's due, man.
这真是,这是非凡的工作。
This is, this is extraordinary work.
非常感谢你。
Thank you so much.
而且我可以告诉你,从外表看可能觉得很简单,我知道。
And and I can tell you it may look easy from outside, I know.
要达到这个位置一定经历了噩梦般的艰辛。
Itहत must have been an nightmar getting to this place.
你现在多大了?
How old are you now?
28岁。
28.
这更值得称赞了,老兄。
That's even more commendable man.
干得漂亮。
Good stuff.
谢谢。
Thank you.
完成了。
Done.
我其实很开心,你知道,मैं start
I am actually happy and you know, मैं start
कर रहे हैं.
कर रहे हैं.
我是
I am
紧张 क्योंकि 我更多是作为一个粉丝,甚至超过了对库纳尔·沙亚这个人本身,我是库纳尔·沙亚推文的粉丝。
nervous क्योंकि I am a fan more than, and more than the कुनाल शायद the person, I am fan of कुनाल शायद the person who tweets.
你在哪里出生和长大的?
कहां पर born and brought up, आप कहां पर हुए?
我其实出生在艾哈迈达巴德。
I am actually born in Ahmedabad.
我妈妈是本地人,但我一直住在这里。
My mom's from here but I have always been here.
所以女士,我是在这里长大的。
So ma'am, I was like raised.
班加罗尔还是孟买?
बैंगलोर Bombay?
不,只有孟买。
No, Bombay only.
好的。
Ok.
班加罗尔只是少部分。
Buanggal is only less.
那么
तो
为什么从孟买来的不说印地语
Bombay से हिंदी क्यों
没有做?
नहीं किया?
是的,只是我从来没学好过。
Yeah, it's just that I never got like good at it.
好的。
Ok.
我会说。
I can speak.
并不是我不会说印地语,但我知道我会在措辞上有些吃力。
It's not that I can't speak हिंदी but I know that I will struggle with words.
你用英语思考吗?
You think in English?
这是个好问题。
It's a good question.
我不知道自己是用什么语言思考的。
I don't know what language I think in.
但你阅读和吸收的所有内容都是英文的。
But you read and consume everything in English.
不,不是这样的。
No, ऐसा नहीं है.
我确实使用多种语言,但仅此而已。
I I do consume multiple languages is just that.
我不知道自己是用哪种语言思考的?
I don't know what language do I think in?
我觉得现在这已经变成了一种混合状态。
As just become a, I think it's become a mixture now.
好的。
Ok.
你在工作中用英语思考,在个人生活中用印地语思考吗?还是和家人交谈时用印地语思考?
Is it work में English में सोचते हो और personal life में हिंदी में सोचते हो या family से जब बात कर रहे होते तब हिंदी में सोचते हो?
我不知道。
I don't know.
我靠。
I shit.
可能我没有...我并没有自言自语的习惯,我是在思考。
Maybe I don't, I don't have conversations with myself and I am thinking.
好的。
Ok.
我正在用这个作为触发器。
I am using this as a triggers.
然后我会转向外部。
Then I go externally.
这是个好问题。
A good question.
哇,也许我已经停止了。
Wow, maybe I have stopped.
哇,我试着思考我现在用哪种语言思考,我做不到,我觉得现在已经进入了一种无语言的思考方式,更像是触发点,而且我认为这是多种语言的。
Wow, I am trying to think on which language I am thinking, I am not able to, I think it's reached into some kind of like languageless thinking approach now which is just a more of like triggers and I think it's multiple languages.
好的。
Ok.
多种事物触发。
Multiple things triggers.
是啊是啊。
Yeah yeah.
就像是一个完全的ADHD大脑。
It's like a full A DH D brain.
所以它是
So it's
一个非常重要的。
a very important.
你好,试着描述一下你的的
Ok, try to break it down for me.
例如,假设我看过你很多关于社会、行为、人类行为等方面的推文,对吧?
For example, let's say, मैने बहुत सारा आपके tweets देखे हैं जो society पर, behavior पर, human behavior, all of these things, right?
所以你提到你会受到某些触发。
तो you said कि you get triggers.
当你观察到某些东西,比如某个词或某条推文时,它就会触发你产生某种观点,比如‘好吧,这是我的看法’。
कहीं पर कुछ observe करते होगे, कोई word या कोई tweet and it triggers something in your like, ok मेरा यह opinion है.
是的。
हां.
发生什么了?
What goes on?
读了点东西,那会有什么效果?
कुछ पढ़ा, उससे क्या होता है?
所以,我认为
So, I think
一步一步地,某些事情。
Step by step by step by कुछ.
实际上,观点是在经过可能数月甚至数年的思考后才形成的。
Actually opinion comes after thinking about for probably months and years.
我并不认为观察到某件事就能立刻形成观点。
I don't think एक कुछ observe किया and I get an opinion.
通常,我会持续观察、观察、再观察,直到某种模式逐渐成形。当我发现这个模式能反映更广泛的规律时,就会尝试用一句话来概括它,以便将其记录为一个可识别的模式,明白吗?
I usually, I am observing observing observing observing and एक फिर एक pattern बनता है and then I see the pattern being a larger pattern about something and then I try to capture it in 1 sentence so that I can register it as a pattern, right?
举个例子,我观察到历史上任何可耻的事物,为了将其正常化,一个常用的方法就是将其转化为骄傲的象征。
So example देता हूं कि I I observed कि जो भी चीज़ historically shameful थी, उसको normalize करने के लिए एक बहुत common method use किया गया था is to convert that into pride.
明白吗?
Ok?
懂了吗?
ठीक है?
所以你会发现,过去吸烟曾被视为一种可耻的行为。
तो आप देखोगे कि जब cigarettes used to be back in the day something as a shameful behavior.
所以他们展示了男性气概、兄弟情谊、骄傲等等,然后将其转化为常态行为。
So they showed mal bro man, this that, pride, all of that and then converted that into normalized behavior.
对吧?
Right?
如果你看看最近的时代,我们现在接受同性恋这件事,它经历了首先为此感到骄傲的阶段。
If you see the the recent times where we now accepted homosexuality as a thing it went through a moment of first being proud about it.
对吗?
Right?
就像如果你看看骄傲游行之类的,它们都是一种方法。
And like if you see the the pride pride or whatever are are a method.
所以你会注意到,任何关于人类历史上被视为羞耻或遭受羞耻对待的事物,都先转化为骄傲,然后变得正常。
So you will notice that anything about human beings that was historically, shameful or treated shamefully, converted into pride and then became normal.
所以这是个有趣的现象,这种模式如何一次又一次地重复出现。
So it's an interesting thing that how is this pattern repeats again and again and again.
因此,我总是观察这些事情并感叹,然后验证它是否属实。
So, I always observed these things and say यार and then I see if it's true.
所以,我的做法是,如果发现一个模式,我就会尝试寻找更多例子来验证这个模式是否普遍存在。
So, what I do is अगर एक pattern दिखा, then I try to find more examples कि यार यह तो बहुत जगह हो रहा है.
现在有了Chat GPT,我实际上能轻松获得10个相关案例。
And now with chat GPT, I can actually get 10 examples of it.
然后你就会感叹,哦,哇。
And then you're like, oh, wow.
看,这种模式一次又一次地重复出现。
Like, this is again and again and again repeating.
所以我尝试做的是寻找观察现象,看看它是否普遍存在,然后捕捉其本质,即正在发生什么
So what I try to do is find observations, see if it's widespread and then capture the essence कि क्या चल रहा
是吗?
है?
看,因为你在谈论观察和羞耻。
See, because you are talking about observation and shame.
如今有一件非常羞耻的事就是当众失败。
1 thing which is very shameful today is failure when you fail in public.
好吗?
Ok?
这可能正是我们需要关注的,因为我刚读了你的一堆推文。
And that probably is something that we need to because I was reading bunch of your tweets.
这是我们为了尝试更多或可能以更好的方式推动社会进步而必须克服的事情。
That is something that we need to get over in order to try more or maybe succeed our society in a better way.
对吧?
Right?
你认为这种情况会如何发生?
How do you think that will happen?
首先,为什么你认为失败在我们国家被视为羞耻的事情?
First actually, why do you think failure is seen as a shameful event in our country?
你看,首先我们要明白我们是如何被养育的。
See the thing is, first of all let's just understand how we are raised.
这种永恒的恐惧一直存在。
There is this perpetual fear.
每个人都生活在某种恐惧之中。
Everybody is living in some version of fear.
社会的恐惧、考试的恐惧——这个会怎样,那个会怎样,会挂科,会耽误一年,诸如此类。而且你也是用恐惧来养孩子的——如果你不做这个,就会发生那个。
Society का fair, exam का fair कि यह हो जाएगा, वह हो जाएगा, fail हो जाएंगे, एक साल miss कर देंगे, यह हो जाएगा and and you also raise kids through fear कि if you do not do this, this will happen.
如果这个不行,你就得不到这份工作,那个也不行。
यह नहीं होगा तो आपका यह नौकरी नहीं होगा, यह नहीं होगा.
没人会尊重你,诸如此类的事情,对吧?
Nobody will respect you all of that stuff, right?
所以,当你的默认状态是恐惧时,失败就成了最令人害怕的事情。
So, when your default state is fear, failure is the dreaded कि यार कुछ भी हो जाए यह नहीं होना चाहिए.
,
हां.
对吧?
Right?
而这在某种程度上让社会感到安全,对吧?
And that causes the society to feel safe in some ways, right?
但这在情感社会中非常普遍。
But it makes it is very common in the emotional society.
例如,在COVID期间你会看到,印度完全处于冷漠和全面恐慌之中。
For example, आप COVID में देखेंगे, India was completely appathy में था और complete panic में था.
从来就没有过海滩度假般的轻松状态,对吧?
कभी beach वाला state था ही नहीं, right?
你会注意到另一件事,
You will notice 1 more thing that Indians when they rate an apt they will do 1 star or 5 star.
我们不会给这个打234星,对吧?
यह 234 star नहीं करते हम, right?
因为那是一种情绪反应。
Because that's an emotional response.
YouTube早期的评分系统不同,如果你还记得的话,后来我们改用了点赞和点踩的方式。
YouTube used to be have earlier different ratings if you remember then we move to up thumbs up and thumbs down.
对吧?
Right?
因为情感反应就是这样。
Because that's how emotional reactions are.
对吧?
Right?
哎呀,我和...这就是会发生的情况,比如,哦,我是粉丝,然后如果他们表现不好,哦,我们就会讨厌。
अरे, I and and that's what happen like, oh, I am a fan and then if they don't do well, oh, we'll hate.
对吧?
Right?
因此,我经常说我们喜欢把人神化,然后再对他们进行'沉浸'。
And and therefore, I I often say that we like to create gods out of people and then do विसर्जन of them.
对吧?
Right?
这就是我们觉得事情没问题的方式,对吧?
And that's how we feel ok about things, right?
所以,我认为发生的是我们这部分关于失败的内容,对吧?
So, I think what happens is हम यह जो failure का part है, right?
这源于我们庆祝什么,对吧?
Comes from what do we celebrate, right?
历史上冒险行为会导致社会排斥,社会无法接纳你,你会被视为判断力差的人。
Now risky behavior historically resulted in you being left out in the society and the society had no way to bring you up or whatever and you would be like treated as somebody was bad judgement.
所以不要冒超过这个限度的风险,做简单的事情就好。
तो उससे ज़्यादा risk मत लो simple simple चीज़ करो.
例如,我们社会从储蓄账户转向定期存款,再到投资共同基金,最后投资股票的过程,就是一个旅程。
For example, let's say our movement as a society from saving account to fix deposits to investing in mutual funds to investing in stocks is a journey.
对吧?
Right?
你会看到不同社会中的不同群体。
And you will see that different communities in different society.
例如,商业家族与金钱的关系截然不同。
For example, business families had a very different relationship with money.
是的。
Yeah.
因为风险是天生的。
Because risk was inate.
所以你注意到他们是最早接受生活中冒险部分的群体。
तो you notice that they were the earliest to adopt the riskyr part of life.
确实如此。
True.
对吧?
Right?
但当你观察年轻人时,会发现他们现在更快地接受冒险事物,因为他们的家庭环境是安全的。
But when you see younger people, they are now adopting riskyr things faster because their household is safe.
例如,你不需要考虑‘饭怎么来?’这样的问题。
For example, you did not have to think about खाना कैसे आएगा?
费伊。
Faye.
所以你的容错能力或风险承受能力发生了实质性变化。
So your failure ability or your risk appetite change materially.
所以下一代对失败会适应得多,因为失败不再意味着没钱吃饭。
तो next generation will be significantly much more at tune to failure because the failure doesn't mean खाने के पैसे नहीं है.
比如,我经历过没钱吃饭的人生阶段。
Like, I have had stages of life where I did not have money to eat.
对吧?
Right?
我记得那时候要赊账买鹰嘴豆,赊账买辛格鹰嘴豆,这就是当天的饭。
And you are literally, I like, I would go, I remember like buying चना on credit, चना सिंह on credit कि आज का खाना यही है.
对吧?
Right?
所以这种经历造就了完全不同的承受力。
So that has a very different tolerance.
有时候失去一切也会让你变得特别能扛事。
Sometimes losing everything also makes you very good at failure.
对吧?
Right?
如果你注意到某人,比如有人在玩扑克,筹码很少的人会一直全押。
If you notice somebody that कोई अगर poker खेलता है, जिसका छोटा stack होता है वह पूरा time all in करता है.
因为已经接近零了。
Because it's so close to 0.
是的。
Yeah.
所以你会发现,钱越少的人越容易采取高风险行为。
So, you will see that people who have less money are doing more riskyer behavior.
对吧?
Right?
比如,那些陷入投资骗局的人会觉得'反正钱不多,试试看吧'。
Like, for example, people who are getting caught in investment scams this that they are like ok small money चलो.
投进去看看会发生什么?
डाल के देखते हैं क्या होता है?
反正也是零了。
वैसे भी 0 है.
所以我认为失败是一个复杂的问题,但文化上我们是一个集体社会。
So I think failure comes in a mixed thing but culturally we are a collective society.
集体社会变得简单,就是我们作为一个整体运作。
Collective society become simple है कि we operate as 1 unit.
是的。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
在我们那个年代,你会记得祖父母常说‘我们所有人只有一套衣服可穿’,我们过去都穿同一件衬衫。
When we were you you would remember that your grand parents would tell you that हमारे सबके एक ही कपड़े आते थे and we used to wear the same shirt.
对吧?
Right?
但现在,想象一下要告诉3个表亲穿同样的衣服。
But now, imagine trying to tell 3 cousins who gonna wear the same clothes.
这样不行。
It's not ok.
他们现在已经变成个体了。
They're they have become individuals now.
对吧?
Right?
所以,当我们从非个人化的社会转向个人主义时,我们会面临更多关于失败的理解、选择等等问题。
So, as we move from let's say a non individual society to individualistic, we will get to more failure understanding choices and so on and so forth.
但还有另一件事正在发生。
But there's another thing that is happening.
再次阻止失败的是人们害怕他们的社交媒体粉丝。
It is preventing failure again is people fearing their social media followers.
是啊。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
比如说你是个年轻人,好不容易积累了2000个粉丝。
That say you are a young person and you have like managed to get 2000 followers.
在你心里,你已经是个名人了。
In your head, you're already a celebrity.
राज 你会记得当你有5万粉丝时只获得40个赞,你的反应和现在拥有数百万粉丝时是一样的,对吧?
राज you will remember when you had 50000 followers and you would get 40 likes, your reaction would be the same as today at millions of followers, right?
这个阈值已经改变了。
The the threshold has changed.
是的。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
但不幸的是,我们会受到观众的影响,这就形成了一个有问题的循环,对吧?
But unfortunately, we get shaped by our audience, which is a problematic loop, right?
例如,当我发推文时,我并没有考虑点赞数。
For example, when I tweet, I am not thinking about likes.
因为如果我在考虑点赞数,我很清楚如何获得它们。
Because if I was thinking about likes, I know exactly how to get them.
我可以说,如果触及这五六个主题,捕捉某些情感,你就能持续获得点赞。
I can say अगर यह पांच छह themes को touch करो, यह कुछ emotions को capture करो, you will get consistently.
但我是为自己而写的,对吧?
But I write for myself, right?
所以,你会看到从50个赞到50000个赞的汇聚过程,这并不稳定。
So, you will see from a 50 likes to a 50000 likes coming together, it's not consistent.
因为我不在乎观众。
Because I don't care about the audience.
但你会注意到,最终每个人都会开始在意,如果你是个年轻人,你会开始考虑那2000个粉丝以及他们会喜欢什么?
But what you will notice is that eventually everybody starts carrying and if you're a young person you start thinking about the 2000 followers and what will they like?
他们会因为什么而评判我?
What will they judge me for?
他们会怎么看我?
What are they going to think about me?
然后你的个性就开始被这2000人的观点所塑造,而这些人原本是你根本不会在意的。
And then your personality starts getting shaped through the views of these 2000 people that you would otherwise not care about.
So, That's becoming a problematic look for.
So, That's becoming a problematic look for.
It's a very big trap because everybody is like trying so hard to differentiate now.
It's a very big trap because everybody is like trying so hard to differentiate now.
Right?
Right?
फिर पहले क्या होता था कि when I was growing up social media pre internet, when I was in college in my first year, second year internet has not become big yet.
फिर पहले क्या होता था कि when I was growing up social media pre internet, when I was in college in my first year, second year internet has not become big yet.
Like a group of 10, you could be different in that, right?
Like a group of 10, you could be different in that, right?
अगर jeans पहन ले तो भी different हो गया था आपने, right?
अगर jeans पहन ले तो भी different हो गया था आपने, right?
कि एक एक difference है.
कि एक एक difference है.
आपके पास black jeans है तो एक different हो गया था.
आपके पास black jeans है तो एक different हो गया था.
但现在当你试图在2000名粉丝中显得与众不同时,你必须找到不同的方式来展现美感。
But now when you are being trying to be different with 2000 followers, you have to find different way to be aesthetic.
你必须找到不同的方式来显得酷炫。
You have to find a different way to be cool.
前往那些无人涉足的独特之地。
Travel to unique places that nobody has been to.
用不同的方式捕捉同样的东西,对吧?
Capture the same thing differently, right?
去参加某个音乐节,但要拍一段与众不同的片段,这样,这样。
Go to some music festival but take a very different clip of that music festival so that you feel cool or you are closer to the stage or not closer to the stage to to signal that, ok, I am in the more important place or not, right?
捕捉独特的食物
Capcurring unique food so that you feel that there I tried different things and so on and so for.
这种迫切想要与众不同的深层需求正在烧坏人们的脑子,对吧?就是想要变得不一样,对吧?
So this deep need to differentiate is frying people's brain, right कि यार मेरा कुछ अलग हो जाए, right?
比如,你去邀请维贾伊·马尔雅上播客。
Like, for example, you are going and getting विजय माल्या on the podcast.
你们都在为差异化而挣扎吧?
Is your all breaking out on differentiation.
对吧?
Right?
这是一种必要的需求,因为人们需要知道你能带来什么与众不同的东西。
It's a it's a thing that is needed because how would people find that, ok, what is the thing difference that you bring to the table?
你为什么认为这是件坏事?
Why do you think it's a bad thing?
这不是坏事。
It's not a bad thing.
只是非常耗费精力。
It it's just very taxing.
这不是坏事。
It's not bad thing.
我只是想说,首先我们要避免将事物简单地分为好与坏,राजा。
I'm just saying, first of all, 1 thing we should avoid, राजा, that categorizing things in good and bad.
这是最简单的处理方式
It's a simplest form of doing
这个这个
this this.
比如
Like.
我们永远不该那样做
We should never do that.
世上本无好坏之分。
There is no such thing as good and bad.
每件事物都有诸多细微差别。
Everything has lots of nuvans.
假设你有能力进行差异化,那就全力以赴去做吧。
Let's say if you have the capability to differentiate by all means do it.
对吧?
Right?
但如果你不具备这种能力却还在勉强尝试,那对精神是极大的负担。
But if you do not have the capability and you're trying very hard, it is very mentally taxing.
但你不觉得吗?如果你持续尝试这么做,或许会发现一个区别点,这会成为你生活中某个领域的证明,进而帮助您在其他地方也获得类似证明。
But don't you think if you keep trying to do that, maybe you'll find a differentiater and that will act as a proof for you in 1 area of life which will help you in other areas of life as well.
是是或非非。
Yes or no.
最终,你会意识到99.9%的人类都是未经分化的。
Eventually, what you will realize is that 99.9 percent of humans have non differentiated.
但现在这些人都在告诉他们必须与众不同。
But they are now being told by all these people that you have to be different.
对吧?
Right?
因此,我们试图捕捉每一种趋势并说,好的,我要战胜这个趋势。看看时尚周期,过去需要多年才会过时。
And therefore, we capture try to capture every trend and say, ok, I am going to beat this and look at fashion cycles used to earlier take multiple years to get outdated.
现在它们过时的速度非常快。
Now they get outdated very quickly.
对吧?
Right?
而我们所谓的快时尚,无非就是当有人穿了某样东西,立马所有人都在跟风。
And and what we call as fast fashion is nothing but if somebody wore this, now it's everybody doing it.
现在几个月,甚至几周就过时了。
Now it's gone in months, in weeks.
你看到了整个潮流迅速兴起又几周内就崩溃。
You you saw the whole lubuh hip of go and crash in weeks.
而成长过程中,有些潮流趋势能持续十年才消失。
Whereas growing up, some of these trends would last for a decade before it disappears.
所以,我们处于高度互联的状态。
So, we are hyper connected.
因此,这些周期运转得非常快,对很多人来说很难跟上。
So, the cycles are moving very fast and that is very hard for a lot of people to keep up.
人们感觉大脑都要炸了,想着我该怎么跟上这些东西。
People like feel brain frried that like how do I keep up to this thing.
所以很多人选择完全不展示自己。
So a lot of people choose to not showcase themselves at all.
他们变成了旁观者,因为他们承认自己跟不上节奏。
They they become observers because they just accept that I can't keep up.
对吧?
Right?
我确信你深有体会,就像我在你办公室看到的那些你想达成的目标数字,这很难。
I'm I'm sure you feel all of them that this is like like I saw in your office you put numbers of all these things that you want to achieve and it's hard.
这很难。
It's hard.
要不断突破自我并付诸行动并不容易。
It's not easy to constantly keep breaking out and doing stuff.
显然你需要不同的驱动力才能做到这一点,但并非人人都有这种驱动力。
Obviously you have to be driven differently to do this but not everybody is driven differently.
我想说的是这种比较,对吧?
What I'm saying is that that comparison, right?
那种'哦,我永远达不到这种规模'的感觉。
That oh, I will never be this scale.
我永远做不到那样,对吧?
I will never be that, right?
举个例子,当我以前做我的Cred Curious版本时,我从不关心观看量是多少。
For example, when I used to do my version of Cred Curious, I never care about views क्या था.
我当时非常好奇。
I was very curious.
早些时候我本应只为我的团队私下做这件事,后来团队建议公开,结果变得很受欢迎,但我并不在意浏览量,因为我纯粹是出于自己的初衷在做这件事。
Earlier I should do this privately for my team, then my team is like make it public and it became popular but I didn't care about the views because I was genuinely doing it from my own thing.
但当你想到那些矩阵与自身好奇心时,事情就变了。
But the moment you start thinking about those matrix versus own curiosity, things change.
对吧?
Right?
因为现在你很清楚这样做会带来浏览量。
Because now you know exactly यह करने से views आएगा.
这样做会导致这个结果,那样做会导致那个结果。
यह करने से यह होगा, यह करने से यह होगा.
如果你在这个过程中迷失了自我怎么办?
What if you lose yourself in this?
如果你意识到我的学习已经停滞了怎么办?
What if you realize that मेरा learning तो खत्म हो रहा है.
现在我只会追求能获得掌声的东西。
अब now I am getting whatever will get me applause.
对吧?
Right?
当一个伟大的演员开始做那些能获得欢呼和笑声的事情,因为这样能获得点击量和金钱。
When a great actor starts doing stuff that will get ggs and laughs from people because it gets views, it gets money.
最终,他们会感到一种空虚——我已经不再是一个伟大的演员了。
Eventually, they feel that void that I have stopped being a great actor.
所以,这就叫做向观众妥协,最终你会意识到——天啊,这就是我变成的样子。
So, like this is called the pending to the audience like you are eventually getting to a place where oh my god, this is who I have become.
是啊。
Yeah.
我先谈谈我自己,然后再回到关于恐惧的讨论。
You know, I'll talk about me a little bit and then we will go back to the fear conversation.
所以它真正帮助到我们的是在对话过程中不必在意观看量。
So what has it really helped us is us not bothering about views during the conversation.
完美。
Perfect.
就像这样,我可以明确告诉你,团队,今天团队中的每个成员都清楚这一点。
Like that and I can tell you by far every member in the team we know this.
当我们准备播客时,无论是选择嘉宾还是进行录制,我们都在考虑播放量。
When we prepare for a podcast, when we choose the guest and when we do the podcast, we give views.
我们还好。
We are like ok.
有时我们准备了500件事却一个都没谈,因为我们只是好奇且沉浸在对话中,我们想要学习。
Sometime we prepare 500 things and we end up talking about none because we are just curious and we are in the conversation, we wanna learn.
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这确实对我们帮助很大。
That has really helped us.
那很好。
That's good.
所以,唯一的目标就是能否从中学习和理解一些东西
So, that the only objective is can we learn and understand something out of
这个?
this?
哦,那太完美了。
Oh, that's perfect.
只要你持之以恒地这样做
As long as you do this consistently
就像至今为止我们进行的每一次对话都是这样。
Like till now in every conversation we've done this.
我们所做的是,一旦对话结束,比如这次完成后,就像这项工作完成了,然后我们会思考,好吧,现在如何充分利用我们已经获得的内容。
What we do is once the conversation is out, like once this is done, like this job is done, then we try to think, ok, now how do we make best out of whatever we have gotten.
我们的观点形成过程不会在录制播客之前就开始。
The process of views doesn't start before we have shot the podcast.
完美。
Perfect.
这其实挺酷的。
That's actually quite cool.
我认为关于恐惧的一个话题是,最好的人能将恐惧转化为好奇心。
I think 1 topic to touch upon on fear is best people convert fear into curiosity.
什么
What do
你是指解释吗?
you mean explain?
看,每个人都有恐惧。
See, everybody has fear.
这当然是有保证的。
यह तो guaranteed है.
同意。
Agreed.
有些人对恐惧的反应截然不同。
Some people have a very different reaction to fear.
大多数人会有一种反应,就是直接关闭。
Most people have a reaction कि यार shut down.
壳牌不会行动。
Coun shell not act.
小人物的做法是将恐惧转化为好奇心,看看会发生什么?
Small persons of people convert their fear into curiosity कि देखते हैं क्या होता है?
我们去看一看,做一做。
जाकर देखते हैं, करते हैं.
对吧?
Right?
比如那些喜欢冒险运动的人。
जैसे people who would do adventure sports.
Are they not fearful?
Are they not fearful?
They absolutely are.
They absolutely are.
But there is this curiosity that takes over.
But there is this curiosity that takes over.
They convert that fear into this weird curiosity कि करके देखता है.
They convert that fear into this weird curiosity कि करके देखता है.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it appeals to them that risk, that curiosity appeals to them so much and they continue to do well.
And it appeals to them that risk, that curiosity appeals to them so much and they continue to do well.
Right?
Right?
कि एक करके देखता है.
कि एक करके देखता है.
会发生什么?
क्या हो जाएगा?
对吧?
Right?
而这实际上推动着他们在人生中不断前进。
And that actually allows them to propel forward in life.
对吧?
Right?
所以将恐惧转化为好奇,让你觉得‘天啊,让我看看’
So converting fear to curiosity where where you're like, Oh my god, let me see.
就像,有种奇怪的吸引力在吸引着你。
Like, there is this weird thing that attracts you.
风险吸引着你。
Risk attracts you.
对吧?
Right?
就像很多人谈论埃隆·马斯克时,说他根本不会评估风险。
Like a lot of people, like, talk about Elon Musk and say that he has no ability to process risk.
这可能是真的,看他不断做的那些事,你会觉得难以置信这家伙居然敢这么做。
And it's probably true the kind of stuff that he constantly does, you are like, I can't believe that the guy is doing this.
对吧?
Right?
但这种对风险的天然吸引力伴随着判断力,对吧?
But there is this natural attraction to risk with judgment, right?
看吧,如果你只是被风险吸引,那你也可以被称为赌徒,伙计,●●●(此处保留原文印地语未翻译部分)
See, if you are just attracted to risk, you can also be called a gambler कि यार इसको खाली attraction है risk से, पर जीतता कुछ नहीं है.
但当你将判断力与风险承受能力或风险吸引力相结合时,你会发现那些人做得很好。
But the moment you combine the judgement ability with risk tolerance or risk attraction, you will see those guys do well.
确实。
True.
你是否觉得,大多数所谓的成功人士其实都走了各自不同的道路?
Do you, don't you feel most people who are successful quote and go in different different ways?
你觉得他们更多是被对低效的恐惧所驱动,还是对被排除在出身地或当前地位的恐惧所驱动?
Do you feel they are more driven out of fear of inefficiency or fear of fear of not being at a place where they come from or where they are today.
所以主要是恐惧在驱使他们改变。
So its mostly the fear which is driving them to change.
所以在某些情况下,恐惧实际上是在推动人们前进,不是因为吸引力或好奇心,而是因为我感觉不想被困在一个地方窒息。
So in some cases, fear is actually really helping people to move forward, not in terms of attraction or curiosity, which just in feel of I don't wanna be suffocated by staying in that 1 place.
我认为
I think
他们并非总是在逃避恐惧,而仅仅是在逃避。
it's not always fear they are escaping, they are just escaping.
所以,人们逃避的事物各不相同。
So, there are different things people escape.
好吗?
Ok?
对吧?
Right?
人们在逃避他们的创伤,逃避处境,逃避恐惧,0逃避身份。
People are escaping their trauma, people are escaping their circumstances, people are escaping their fear, People are escapping their identity.
人们正在学习。
People are escapping their country.
人们正在逃离他们的社会。
People are escapping their society.
逃避驱动着人们。
Escapeping drives people.
对吧?
Right?
恐惧只是其中之一。
Fear is just 1 of them.
但你会发现一个现象,大多数成功人士都多少有点强迫症倾向。
But you'll notice 1 thing that कि most successful people are some version of 0CD.
他们就是一遍又一遍地重复这种模式,完全不需要外界的驱动力。
They are repeating this pattern again and again and again and again and again without any drive coming from outside.
是的。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
存在自我驱动的机制。
There are self fueling mechanism.
顺便说一句,他们不需要励志演讲者。
They don't need motivational speakers by the way.
确实如此。
True.
对吧?
Right?
你永远不会看到被激励演说家驱使的有动力的人。
You will never see driven people driven by motivational speakers.
对吧?
Right?
所以,几乎是一种反向趋势。
So, almost a reverse trend.
需要励志演讲者的人不太可能有内驱力。
People who need motivational speakers are unlikely to be driven.
对吧?
Right?
而且,如果你把它视为一条商业分界线来说的话。
And and which is if you think about it as a business breaking line to make.
但问题是那些在逃避某些事情的人。
But the thing is that people who are escaping something.
他们没时间听励志演讲。
They don't have time for motivational speakers.
他们只是想要不断投入其中,持续投入,持续投入。
They just want to just be added at it, added at it, added at it.
想象一下最优秀的运动员。
Imagine the best athlete.
想象一下最优秀的企业家。
Imagine the best entrepreneur.
他们只是付诸行动。
They are just act it.
他们在逃避。
They are escaping.
他们在逃避他们的无关紧要。
They are escaping their their they are escaping their irrelval relevance.
他们在逃避现状。
They are escaping their current state.
他们感到力不从心。
They are feeling inadequate.
对吧?
Right?
我遇到过很多很多成功人士。
I have met many many successful people.
每个人都在说'兄弟,我这辈子一事无成'。
Everybody is like यार, कुछ भी नहीं किया achieve life में.
比如,糟糕透了。
Like, shit.
我什么都没做。
I have done nothing.
我已经变得无关紧要了。
I have become irrelevant.
我已经做到了。
I have done this.
我还没有理解这一点。
I have not understand this.
我对人工智能一无所知。
I have no understanding of AI.
我是这样那样的。
I am this and that.
他们就像以一种非常怪异的方式被驱使着。
They are just like driven in a very weird manner.
是啊。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
而且他们总是在逃避某些东西。
And they're always escaping something.
主要是在逃避他们的束缚。
Escapeing their strato mostly.
对吧?
Right?
驱动他们的几乎是强迫症(OCD)般的东西。
And what drives them is the 0CD, which is obsessive compulsive disorder almost.
对吧?
Right?
现在我们用疾病和病症的形式来描述这些词汇。
And now we say these words in form of disease and and illnesses.
但关键在于这是一种状态。
But the thing is it's a state.
是啊。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
如果你有机会——我强烈建议很多人想办法去观察一位精英运动员的训练过程。
If you see ever and I would, I would encourage, like, a lot of people to find a way to observe an elite athlete training.
你会发现一些非常不同的东西。
Like, you will see something very different.
无论你观察到什么。
Whatever you observed.
比如说,他们每天坚持做某件事348小时的这种一致性,这在体力上是极其耗费的。
For example, their consistency to do something for 348 hours a day, which is physically taxing.
对吧?
Right?
而且没有人,没有人享受这个过程。
And there is nobody is no nobody is enjoying that.
没有人享受这个过程。
Nobody is enjoying that.
但你可以看到他们那种不断坚持的动力。
You can see but that drive to just be at it, at it, at it.
几乎到了没有它就无法生活的地步。
And almost that they can't live without that.
你不觉得那是对无法发挥潜能的恐惧,或者是对平庸的恐惧吗?
Don't you think that's fear of not being able to live up to potential or maybe fear of being average?
并不总是恐惧。
It's not always fear.
有些人是因为创伤而驱动的。
Some people are driven through the trauma.
并不存在恐惧。
There is no fear.
他们只是受到了创伤,想要逃离那种创伤。
They are just traumatized and they want to escape that trauma.
他们有时想要逃离那种孤独感。
They want to escape that feeling of being alone sometimes.
有些人成为工作狂是因为如果独处,他们会害怕面对真实的自己。
Sometimes people are workaholic because if they are left alone to themselves, they'll be fearful about meeting themselves.
是的。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
所以,你必须明白这些行为的驱动力来自多方面。
So, you have to understand that these things are driven from multiple places.
有时候你身处一群有进取心的人之中,这种氛围也会推动着你前进。
Sometimes you're also in the company of driven people and that drives you.
对吧?
Right?
我们,我们总是与我们相处最多的五个人的平均水平相当。
We are, we are always the average of 5 people we spend time with.
你相信通过。
You believe by.
你对此深信不疑。
You are absolutely believe it.
对吧?
Right?
因此,许多正在成长的人发现很难保持同样的朋友关系。
And therefore, a lot of people who are growing find a hard to keep the same friends.
这说法有问题。
Now that's a problematic line.
对大多数印度人来说。
For most Indians.
变得太高高在上了
क्या बहुत बड़ा हो गया.
现在都不跟我们往来了
अब तो हमारे साथ मिलता भी नहीं है.
连话都不说了
बात भी नहीं करता.
而我们对这种界限非常恐惧
And we are very fearful of that line.
是啊
Yeah.
但这种情况很可能会发生
But that is likely to happen.
为什么你认为我们会害怕
Why do you think we are fearful that when we
作为一个集体社会,我们得满足每个人的期望
are a collective society that like we have to meet everybody's expectation.
你看,在社交媒体出现之前,要是不可能保持住所有朋友的联系。
See, back before social media, it was impossible to keep up with all the friends.
你搬到了另一个城市或其他地方。
You move to a different city, somewhere else.
你搬到了另一个国家,情况就不同了。
You move to a different country, something else.
就是这样。
That's it.
现在有了社交媒体,你好像和每个人都联系上了。
Now with social media, like you are connected to everyone.
正在给所有人发生日快乐祝福。
सबको happy birthday कर रहे हैं.
对吧?
Right?
每个人都在做些什么。
सबको कुछ कर रहे हैं.
早些时候
Earlier it
根本不可能做到。
was impossible to do.
我们会逐渐融入所交往的圈子。
We would evolve into the circles we were spending time with.
是啊。
Yeah.
但社交媒体却奇怪地将我们锚定在相同的现实中。
But social media is a weird thing of keeping us grounded to the same realities.
但很难跟上节奏,毕竟一天只有24小时。
But it hard to keep up because you only have 24 hours.
对吧?
Right?
会有人告诉你你变了、成长了或是退步了吗?
Do people tell you what that you have changed or you have grown or you have a poor?
我确信他们说过,但我对生活中听到的内容有着非常挑剔的过滤机制。
I am sure they do but I have a very selective filter on what I hear in life.
因为对我来说,我会永远站在需要我的人身边。
Because for me, I'm always going to be there for people who need me.
但我的时间是我要保护的,因为这是你、我或任何其他人拥有极少的货币。
But my time is something that I protect because that's the currency you and I or anybody else has very less off.
对吧?
Right?
有时候帮助别人临时应急很容易,但要持续付出时间就很难,对吧?
Often sometimes it's easier to help somebody sub need something but giving time consistently, right?
我认为我们必须置身于一个能让我们不断成长的环境中。
I think we have to be all in environment which is constantly growing us.
对吧?
Right?
例如,我不支持远程工作的原因之一是
For example, the reason I am not in favor of work from home, which is a very problematic topic, is all the growth happens in the company of people you keep.
Not about working somewhere.
Not about working somewhere.
If you work from home and you chose to be around 5 really smart people at your home who are working along with you.
If you work from home and you chose to be around 5 really smart people at your home who are working along with you.
I'm all for work from home.
I'm all for work from home.
Where you will discuss something at lunch, discuss something at dinner, discuss something while playing a game with them and you are constantly making each other better, then by all means work from home.
Where you will discuss something at lunch, discuss something at dinner, discuss something while playing a game with them and you are constantly making each other better, then by all means work from home.
But if you are going to be in a place where अरे यार, I am avoiding commute, I am avoiding this.
But if you are going to be in a place where अरे यार, I am avoiding commute, I am avoiding this.
मेरा rent बच गया, मेरा रिक्शा और taxi का पैसा बच गया.
मेरा rent बच गया, मेरा रिक्शा और taxi का पैसा बच गया.
You've made a terrible decision for your life.
You've made a terrible decision for your life.
Because remember all the times we learned was in the company of great people.
Because remember all the times we learned was in the company of great people.
对吧?
Right?
然后你会想,天啊。
And you're like, Oh my god.
当我们回想这个人说的话,或是她说了些特别有意思的,或是他说了些特别有意思的,我就会觉得哇。
When we reflect on what this guy said or she said something so interesting or he said something so interesting and I'm like wow.
就像,它触动了我。
Like, it hit me.
是啊。
Yeah.
对吧?
Right?
这就成了你的体系。
And that becomes your system.
确实。
True.
但现在,我不知道。
But now, I don't know.
我们花在短视频和快照上的时间比与真正优秀的人相处还多。
We spend more time with reels and shots than really good people.
因此,现在你几乎能遇到所有人。
And therefore, now you meet almost everyone.
他们就像刚看过的最后10条短视频那样。
They are like the last 10 reels that they have watched.
就像,那就是他们的平均人格。
Like, that's their average personality.
这样不好。
That is not good.
因为如果你让他们逐行解释,就会发现毫无实质内容。
Because if you ask them एक नीचे एक line उसके ऊपर, there is no substance.
是啊。
Yeah.
That is so true.
That is so true.
That is so so true.
That is so so true.
You know, you tweeted something about it.
You know, you tweeted something about it.
You said, mediocre people often have a clear tell.
You said, mediocre people often have a clear tell.
You'll often see them hanging out with other mediocre people probably because the A plus folks avoid them.
You'll often see them hanging out with other mediocre people probably because the A plus folks avoid them.
Now when you say that most of the people are average of the 5 people they hang out with and if you come from a mediocre background and you are a mediocre person in that.
Now when you say that most of the people are average of the 5 people they hang out with and if you come from a mediocre background and you are a mediocre person in that.
How do you break out of this?
How do you break out of this?
How do you go to the A plus category because A plus folks are avoiding them.
How do you go to the A plus category because A plus folks are avoiding them.
是的。
Yeah.
首先,所有A+级别的人都觉得自己平庸。
First of all, all A plus folks feel their mediocre.
我不认为平庸的人会觉得自己平庸。
I don't think if the mediocre people feel they are mediocre.
这是第一点。
That's number 1.
第二点是这是个相对概念。
Number 2 is it's a relative term.
对吧?
Right?
并没有明确的分类说这是A+,这是平庸。
There is no categorization कि यह a plus है, यह mediocre.
这是一个光谱,就像我们都知道存在于人类身上的这种等级体系。
It's a spectrum, like and we all know this ranking system that exist on human beings.
例如,如果我们要对库纳尔和拉吉在内容理解方面进行排名,你会远远领先于我。
For example, if we have to rank कुणाल and राज on understanding of content, you would be like miles ahead of me.
对吧?
Right?
在某些话题上,我可能遥遥领先于你,这就是人类的特性。
On on some topics, I would be miles ahead of you and that's what humans are.
对吧?
Right?
例如,如果我们俩要想想谁是最懂车的人,可能就不是我们。
For example, if both of us have to think about who's the best person to understand cars, maybe it's not us.
这是我们一位非常非常擅长的朋友
It's a friend of our's who's very very good at
它。
it.
而他们遥遥领先。
And they are miles ahead.
So there is a spectrum in each of these things.
So there is a spectrum in each of these things.
But anybody who's excellent at anything is not accidentally excellent anything.
But anybody who's excellent at anything is not accidentally excellent anything.
Nobody is gifted to be oh, I am good at cars or I am good at content.
Nobody is gifted to be oh, I am good at cars or I am good at content.
Right?
Right?
It happens because they are obsessive about this and get there.
It happens because they are obsessive about this and get there.
Right?
Right?
Now if you are in a company or people obsessive about anything, you learn something from them.
Now if you are in a company or people obsessive about anything, you learn something from them.
You meet a musician, you meet an athlete, you you meet a startup entrepreneur, you meet somebody who's building great content the way you're doing and you'll always learn.
You meet a musician, you meet an athlete, you you meet a startup entrepreneur, you meet somebody who's building great content the way you're doing and you'll always learn.
Right?
Right?
And is that the relationship?
And is that the relationship?
What I'm saying is that if a relationship is not teaching you something but are only validating you, then growth is limited.
What I'm saying is that if a relationship is not teaching you something but are only validating you, then growth is limited.
How do you find these people who teach?
How do you find these people who teach?
They always exist.
They always exist.
I think people who make us uncomfortable are a good
I think people who make us uncomfortable are a good
set.
set.
That's a good feedback.
That's a good feedback.
Right?
Right?
Because if you think they are right to offends you, that's the exact person to spend time with.
Because if you think they are right to offends you, that's the exact person to spend time with.
But what we do is we judge the tone of their feedback.
But what we do is we judge the tone of their feedback.
I don't judge tone of feedback of anyone.
I don't judge tone of feedback of anyone.
Anybody who mocks me or takes a shot at me or whatever.
Anybody who mocks me or takes a shot at me or whatever.
And if they have some good lesson, I will only remember the lesson.
And if they have some good lesson, I will only remember the lesson.
I will not remember what the tone was and I will not even remember who the person was.
I will not remember what the tone was and I will not even remember who the person was.
But people have, so I often say this but I repeat it, like, people have substance and their own perception about themselves.
But people have, so I often say this but I repeat it, like, people have substance and their own perception about themselves.
जब यह gap बड़ा wide होता है, it's easy to offend people.
जब यह gap बड़ा wide होता है, it's easy to offend people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Right?
अगर यह gap छोटा है तो offend नहीं होते लोग.
अगर यह gap छोटा है तो offend नहीं होते लोग.
Right?
Right?
But this gap exists only when you have not improved this part.
But this gap exists only when you have not improved this part.
Right?
Right?
For for example, if you told me that कुणाल, you are so old.
For for example, if you told me that कुणाल, you are so old.
Right?
Right?
Yeah, I am older to you.
Yeah, I am older to you.
So, it's a fact.
So, it's a fact.
How can I be offended by that?
How can I be offended by that?
But a lot of people get offended by these words.
But a lot of people get offended by these words.
Right?
Right?
I often say that, oh कुनाल, if somebody calls you overweight.
I often say that, oh कुनाल, if somebody calls you overweight.
But that's a fact.
But that's a fact.
On all mathematical ways, it's a right answer.
On all mathematical ways, it's a right answer.
But if I'm like, cancel.
But if I'm like, cancel.
So, I think we have reached the point where we have taken so much pride in being offended.
So, I think we have reached the point where we have taken so much pride in being offended.
The good news is you put content out there of being offended, you get too many likes.
The good news is you put content out there of being offended, you get too many likes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you think it's a great quality to have.
So you think it's a great quality to have.
So you see so many people on social media are per perpetually putting their outrage out there of being offended.
So you see so many people on social media are per perpetually putting their outrage out there of being offended.
Because multiple people are like, हां, I also agree with this and then they wanna be part of that tribe.
Because multiple people are like, हां, I also agree with this and then they wanna be part of that tribe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the really good people or people who are growing people or compounding people have no time to mock someone or be offended by someone, they're too busy achieving what they need to achieve.
But the really good people or people who are growing people or compounding people have no time to mock someone or be offended by someone, they're too busy achieving what they need to achieve.
They don't care.
They don't care.
Right?
Right?
Like, I often say that if you bark back at a dog, are you a dog?
Like, I often say that if you bark back at a dog, are you a dog?
It's as simple as that.
It's as simple as that.
You've you tweeted something on this.
You've you tweeted something on this.
All नौकरी is accepting lower status.
All नौकरी is accepting lower status.
Yeah, It's it's funny.
Yeah, It's it's funny.
Right?
Right?
But we will never mock somebody who's lower status than us.
But we will never mock somebody who's lower status than us.
Imagine you are meeting with friends and you are blocking your staff who drives you.
Imagine you are meeting with friends and you are blocking your staff who drives you.
Have you ever seen that behavior?
Have you ever seen that behavior?
But we all get together and mock our bosses.
But we all get together and mock our bosses.
Mock politicians, mock somebody because it allows people to create a tribe कि god a gossip करेंगे, हम mock करेंगे तो दोस्ती बनेगी हमारी.
Mock politicians, mock somebody because it allows people to create a tribe कि god a gossip करेंगे, हम mock करेंगे तो दोस्ती बनेगी हमारी.
But that's a very cheap way to build bonds.
But that's a very cheap way to build bonds.
But most people do
But most people do
that and they change shit.
that and they change shit.
Why?
Why?
But most people are also not successful,
But most people are also not successful,
no.
no.
You feel successful people don't gossip?
You feel successful people don't gossip?
They they gossip for a very different intent.
They they gossip for a very different intent.
They gossip to no information.
They gossip to no information.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Or improve the intelligence about something.
Or improve the intelligence about something.
It's not their need.
It's not their need.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Successful people actually are extraordinary keeping secrets.
Successful people actually are extraordinary keeping secrets.
You will never see a wealthy person who's terrible at keeping secrets.
You will never see a wealthy person who's terrible at keeping secrets.
You will say, इसको बोल दिया यह आगे नहीं transfer होगा.
You will say, इसको बोल दिया यह आगे नहीं transfer होगा.
They become the holder of asymmetric insights and therefore you create trust with them.
They become the holder of asymmetric insights and therefore you create trust with them.
想想你所有的朋友,你会说‘哎呀这个告诉他就会传出去的’
Think about all your friends that you say अरे यह तो उसको बोलेगा तो आगे हो जाएगा.
你不能信任他们
You can't trust them.
和他们出去玩可能很有趣,但你不会分享那些可能对你有害的私密信息
They might be fun entertaining to go out with but you would not share very intimate information with them that can be damaging to you.
是啊
Yeah.
这太对了
That is so true.
你只会和那些你信任且能保守秘密的人分享某些见解
You share certain insights with people who you trust and who can keep secrets.
这些人通常地位比你高,或者在群体中
And there are often the people who are at the higher status than you or maybe in the group
或者未来更有可能取得成功的人
or are likely to be more successful in the future as well.
Likely to be more.
Likely to be more.
You think people who are able to keep secrets at a young age are likely to be more successful in future.
You think people who are able to keep secrets at a young age are likely to be more successful in future.
So let's just,
So let's just,
let's just break the, all the people who are very successful or wealthy at least, are going to be somebody who are extraordinary at keeping secrets.
let's just break the, all the people who are very successful or wealthy at least, are going to be somebody who are extraordinary at keeping secrets.
Right?
Right?
Which means they don't feel the need कि जो पता चला उसका content बना के आगे दे दिया.
Which means they don't feel the need कि जो पता चला उसका content बना के आगे दे दिया.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Right?
大多数人保持有趣的方式就是八卦。
Most people the way they remain interesting is to gossip.
得到一些内容后就要告诉别人。
कुछ content मिला and they have to tell people about it.
这就是他们保持有趣的方式。
And that's how they remain interesting.
对吧?
Right?
有些人你跟他们分享一些事,你知道不会传出去。
Some people you share something with them, you know कि आगे नहीं जाएगा.
他们会保守秘密。
They hold it.
我并不是说这一定会成功,因为成功还需要其他因素。
Now, I'm not saying that this is likely to become successful because other factors that come into being successful.
但你很少会看到成功人士不具备这种特质。
But you will rarely see somebody who is successful who doesn't have this trait.
Ok.
Ok.
Fair.
Fair.
So, all wealthy people are good secret keepers.
So, all wealthy people are good secret keepers.
That's what you are saying.
That's what you are saying.
So, it's like a first level, first first in fact
So, it's like a first level, first first in fact
what you will see is that the moment second, third generation who is not good at keeping secrets, the wealth will again go away.
what you will see is that the moment second, third generation who is not good at keeping secrets, the wealth will again go away.
Like wealth, yeah, wealth is like flows
Like wealth, yeah, wealth is like flows
forward.
forward.
Have you seen it?
Have you seen it?
Yeah, you will see it.
Yeah, you will see it.
Observe it next time.
Observe it next time.
Like the second third generation is not good at keeping secrets, the money will flow through them.
Like the second third generation is not good at keeping secrets, the money will flow through them.
Were you good at keeping secrets from childhood?
Were you good at keeping secrets from childhood?
I think I was good at keeping people's trust.
I think I was good at keeping people's trust.
Explain.
Explain.
When people share secrets and they can feel the trust that that was not going to be used against them, you become trustworthy.
When people share secrets and they can feel the trust that that was not going to be used against them, you become trustworthy.
So, it's not about secrets, it's about buying more trustworthy.
So, it's not about secrets, it's about buying more trustworthy.
Most wealthy people will always have a strong correlation of being trustworthy.
Most wealthy people will always have a strong correlation of being trustworthy.
Right?
Right?
And I'm not saying they are generally trustworthy but they are specifically trustworthy.
And I'm not saying they are generally trustworthy but they are specifically trustworthy.
For example, banks will trust them, investors will trust them, employees will trust them.
For example, banks will trust them, investors will trust them, employees will trust them.
Right?
Right?
So, I think I was always the person who people knew that the gossip would not move forward.
So, I think I was always the person who people knew that the gossip would not move forward.
I would never encourage it.
I would never encourage it.
I would never like, I would treat this as a mark of respect that somebody shared something with me.
I would never like, I would treat this as a mark of respect that somebody shared something with me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a
It's a
little bit like being a gold smith.
little bit like being a gold smith.
That if people are storing gold with you,
That if people are storing gold with you,
then it's
then it's
you have to be somebody that I can be trusted with.
you have to be somebody that I can be trusted with.
But what's the difference?
But what's the difference?
Let's say you you told me you had this when you were pretty young.
Let's say you you told me you had this when you were pretty young.
People of your age, people in your group, might not have this trait.
People of your age, people in your group, might not have this trait.
What was the difference?
What was the difference?
What do you think is difference?
What do you think is difference?
I think
I think
it probably helps to be an introvert.
it probably helps to be an introvert.
Like, you were not trying to be interesting.
Like, you were not trying to be interesting.
But lot of people try to be interesting.
But lot of people try to be interesting.
我知道。
I know.
这也是社会所奖励的事情之一。
That's 1 of the things that society rewards also.
没错,但我想说的是,如果变得有趣是通过成为信息的超级导体来实现的。
Exactly, but I'm saying that if that being interesting comes by being the super conductor of information.
从这里获得并在其上添加香料后继续推进,对吧?
यहां से मिला उस पर मसाला के आगे बढ़ाया, right?
这不太可能赢得尊重,但会获得喜爱,
It's unlike to be crading respect, will be liked,
同意。
agreed.
所以我认为关键指标是,人们大多试图被喜欢而非被尊重。
So I think the key metric is people are mostly trying to be liked not respected.
所有社交媒体都让'点赞'成为现实。
All social media has made likes happen.
Respect कहां है?
Respect कहां है?
Why do you think people are, people want to be likedd more than they want to be respected?
Why do you think people are, people want to be likedd more than they want to be respected?
Because when you ask people, everybody will say they wanna be respected but their actions tell you otherwise.
Because when you ask people, everybody will say they wanna be respected but their actions tell you otherwise.
It's about how we shape the society, right?
It's about how we shape the society, right?
Respect is a long term behavior like is a short term behavior.
Respect is a long term behavior like is a short term behavior.
Right?
Right?
Can I do 1 thing and be respected?
Can I do 1 thing and be respected?
No.
No.
But I
But I
can make a nice joke and I can be like by your entire office.
can make a nice joke and I can be like by your entire office.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, the world is becoming more and more short term and less and less long term.
So, the world is becoming more and more short term and less and less long term.
Why?
Why?
Because the society is rewarding that right now.
Because the society is rewarding that right now.
But every now and then the society corrects itself.
But every now and then the society corrects itself.
Ok.
Ok.
Then
Then
we like, oh, should we can't be short term, it will become long term.
we like, oh, should we can't be short term, it will become long term.
Right?
Right?
Imagine the human invention of monogamy, relationships, marriage came from realizing, oh my god, we can't be short term.
Imagine the human invention of monogamy, relationships, marriage came from realizing, oh my god, we can't be short term.
It's not good for society.
It's not good for society.
Look at religion.
Look at religion.
Every religion only does 1 thing, makes you not do short term behavior and make you do long term behavior across any religion.
Every religion only does 1 thing, makes you not do short term behavior and make you do long term behavior across any religion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tribal religion to organize religion any country, any state.
Tribal religion to organize religion any country, any state.
Don't do short term behavior do long term behavior.
Don't do short term behavior do long term behavior.
That's the core thing every human realizes के and how do you think religion got invented?
That's the core thing every human realizes के and how do you think religion got invented?
Because you must have seen that humans are not doing well, right?
Because you must have seen that humans are not doing well, right?
For example, do not steal because it causes a cycle of distribution and destruction, violence, deaths, all of that stuff.
For example, do not steal because it causes a cycle of distribution and destruction, violence, deaths, all of that stuff.
So do not steal is be more long term.
So do not steal is be more long term.
In fact, every human behavior that we consider as bad behavior is nothing but a short term behavior.
In fact, every human behavior that we consider as bad behavior is nothing but a short term behavior.
Now, where does the short term behavior come from?
Now, where does the short term behavior come from?
Right?
Right?
We have 2 brains, the near cortex and Emic Dulla.
We have 2 brains, the near cortex and Emic Dulla.
Emic Dulla is the fight or flight animal brain as we call it, or the lizred brain, which is designed for short term.
Emic Dulla is the fight or flight animal brain as we call it, or the lizred brain, which is designed for short term.
In fact, all the joyful stuff that we experience is coming from the short term brain.
In fact, all the joyful stuff that we experience is coming from the short term brain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Right?
Being long term makes us successful, makes us wealthy, makes us wise, makes us achieve long term success, makes us healthy, builds our muscle, builds our reputation.
Being long term makes us successful, makes us wealthy, makes us wise, makes us achieve long term success, makes us healthy, builds our muscle, builds our reputation.
All of that comes from there.
All of that comes from there.
In fact, that is the brain that tells the short brain to behave.
In fact, that is the brain that tells the short brain to behave.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Calam down.
Calam down.
And it keep getting strengthened the more and more you do it.
And it keep getting strengthened the more and more you do it.
Practice it.
Practice it.
But the thing is that the more we encourage this smaller brain to become the boss.
But the thing is that the more we encourage this smaller brain to become the boss.
And therefore you will see people who have not very long term about things there either very happy or very sad.
And therefore you will see people who have not very long term about things there either very happy or very sad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
他们有着极端的情绪。
They have that extreme emotions.
对吧?
Right?
但那些更倾向于新皮质的人会说,他们在两种情况下都更加平衡。
But people who are more neo cortics oriented they will say they are more balanced in both the situations.
事实上,你会发现我们使用的许多刺激物,或者说镇静剂,都是为了抑制新皮质。
In fact, you will see that lot of the stimulus or rather sedatives that we have are to suppress the Neo cortex.
当我们喝酒时会感到更快乐和傻笑。
We are happier and gigly when we have alcohol.
对吧?
Right?
这正是为了暂停长期思维,因此我们在醉酒或受到某种
And that's exactly what it is to suspend the long term mind and therefore we are like to do more short term behavior when we are drunk or under some kind of
影响时会做出更多短期行为。
a influence.
所以,整个社会都在鼓励这种行为。
So, overall society is rewarding this.
我们该如何改变它?
How do we change it?
这非常困难。
It's very hard.
社会需要认识到其中的错误,有时这需要几十年时间,然后我们会意识到:天啊,我们都做了些什么?
Society will have to realize the mistakes of it, it takes decades sometimes and we will realize oh my god, what have we done?
然后我们对事物会变得稍微保守一些。
Then we become slightly more conservative about things.
我们会更注重长远考虑。
We become more long term about things.
你是什么时候意识到需要着眼长期而非短期的?
When did you realize that you need to be long term not short term?
我想,比如当我看到家庭经历财务危机时,我意识到某些短期行为导致了整个家庭的困境,对吧?
I think when you see like for example when the family went through financial crisis and I realize कि यार कुछ short term behavior cause this for the whole family, right?
You just start thinking that you need to do more something more long term in nature, right?
You just start thinking that you need to do more something more long term in nature, right?
And what I realize that what was long term is skill, reputation, trust, wisdom, wealth, health and I'm just thinking more and more about these things, right?
And what I realize that what was long term is skill, reputation, trust, wisdom, wealth, health and I'm just thinking more and more about these things, right?
Mattered early on in life because I was never having the luxury.
Mattered early on in life because I was never having the luxury.
I have no, I had no money to hang out with young friends and go for a party or being able to afford a trip.
I have no, I had no money to hang out with young friends and go for a party or being able to afford a trip.
Like, I didn't have the money for anything.
Like, I didn't have the money for anything.
I probably must have taken a trip abroad for fun after many many many years, I probably I was your age or slightly younger.
I probably must have taken a trip abroad for fun after many many many years, I probably I was your age or slightly younger.
When I had done a lot of work to build first something and I think that, for example, we were thrown from our houses to वचौल.
When I had done a lot of work to build first something and I think that, for example, we were thrown from our houses to वचौल.
So, I was the 1 who actually bought a house and home loan before I travel abroad for a vacation.
So, I was the 1 who actually bought a house and home loan before I travel abroad for a vacation.
But the younger generation is doing the exact opposite because they have the support of somebody's house that they know at least my parents house is there or I can go back to their house or whatever.
But the younger generation is doing the exact opposite because they have the support of somebody's house that they know at least my parents house is there or I can go back to their house or whatever.
I didn't have any of that.
I didn't have any of that.
So, I think sometimes not having anything long term forces you to become long term.
So, I think sometimes not having anything long term forces you to become long term.
You said most of us who are driven, they are escaping something.
You said most of us who are driven, they are escaping something.
Were you escaping something?
Were you escaping something?
Yeah, escaping fear of lower.
Yeah, escaping fear of lower.
Poor, See, when you are also poor, when you suddenly become poor in your family, you will start seeing everybody distancing from you.
Poor, See, when you are also poor, when you suddenly become poor in your family, you will start seeing everybody distancing from you.
Friends, family, nobody really wants to hang around with poor people.
Friends, family, nobody really wants to hang around with poor people.
Specially if you have become poor through your own choices and like people try to keep you there but like you know that they don't like want to really hang with you.
Specially if you have become poor through your own choices and like people try to keep you there but like you know that they don't like want to really hang with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that drives you that, ok, you cannot be that.
And that drives you that, ok, you cannot be that.
Right?
Right?
And you're escaping that in some ways but I think it becomes eventually the Australia that you want to continuously escape only.
And you're escaping that in some ways but I think it becomes eventually the Australia that you want to continuously escape only.
Right?
Right?
You're always thinking about I need to escape even more and further and further and further and it drives you.
You're always thinking about I need to escape even more and further and further and further and it drives you.
So, what is your fear today?
So, what is your fear today?
Or what is escape?
Or what is escape?
What is escape today?
What is escape today?
I think I'm checking today?
I think I'm checking today?
I think more my my fear always remains in that if I don't understand things, for me not understanding how things work and becoming better at things that I don't have an understanding of is what drives me.
I think more my my fear always remains in that if I don't understand things, for me not understanding how things work and becoming better at things that I don't have an understanding of is what drives me.
फिर of irrelevant.
फिर of irrelevant.
That I, what if I don't understand the younger generation?
That I, what if I don't understand the younger generation?
Right, like what if I don't see what they are doing and and understand their patterns.
Right, like what if I don't see what they are doing and and understand their patterns.
For example, how is AI going to shape our behaviors?
For example, how is AI going to shape our behaviors?
我对这个非常非常感兴趣。
I am very very interested in that.
对吧?
Right?
因为这是常态。
Because this is a norm.
我们我们我们没有意识到,但也许大多数人已经与他们的AI建立了某种关系。
We we we not realize it but maybe a large majority of people already having some version of relationship with their AI.
是的。
Yeah.
例如,假设你是男性或女性,你与你的可充电性(注:此处应为‘可对话性’或‘AI伴侣’,根据上下文推测原文可能有误)建立了更充实的关系。
And that ships for example, say you are a male or female and you have a more fulfilling relationship with your chargeability.
如果你发现人际关系变得
What if you find human relationships to be
次优?
subopting?
很有可能。
Highly possible.
那人类社会将会变成什么样子?
What will happen to human society then?
就像,如果你不考虑这些事情,在它们发生之前你不太可能采取行动或意识到它们。
Like, if you don't think about these things, you're unlikely to do something about or be aware of it before it happens.
看,如果你减少,如果你持有对生活越来越少的惊喜的心态。
See, I'm if you reduce, if you have the mindset of having less and less surprises about life.
这将需要你不断对事物保持警觉。
It will require you to constantly be aware about things.
但为什么需要理解这件事呢?
But why is this need to understand this thing?
为什么需要预测或试图寻找一个尚未出现但可能成为问题的问题?
Why is this need to predict or try to find a problem which is not there yet but might become a problem.
是什么驱使你实际上思考如果未来人们与AI建立关系,我该怎么办?
What drives you do actually कि कल पर अगर relationship लोग AI से बनाएंगे तो मैं क्या करूंगा?
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