重阳节：中国的敬老日

讨论让世界运转不息。

Discussion keeps the world turning.

这里是圆桌论坛。

This is Roundtable.

您正在收听的是圆桌论坛节目，我是林叶红，与史蒂夫和雨申共同主持。在中国，农历九月初九历来是登高望远的传统节日。重阳节提醒我们既要缅怀先人，也要展望我们共同建设的未来。如今，随着中国社会日趋成熟，老龄化已不再只是关于祖辈的遥远话题。

You're listening to Roundtable. I'm Yeohong Lin, joined by Steve and Yushen. In China, the ninth day of the ninth lunar months has always been a day to climb high in both body and spirit. The Double Ninth Festival reminds us to look back at those who came before us and to look ahead forward to the future we are building together. Today, as China grows older and wiser, aging is no longer a distant topic about our grandparents.

这是我们每个人都在逐步迈入的共同旅程。从国家战略到智能机器人，从年轻护工到数字助手，我们将探讨银发族与年轻人如何交相辉映。今天节目中我们将开启'心连心'环节，聆听听众朋友们的心声。您向我们倾诉了思考、困惑与难题，现在该由我们带来见解、建议，或许还有几分逆耳忠言。但在开始前——当我们谈论未来时，脑海中常浮现青春、创新、活力与无限可能。

It's a shared journey we are all walking into step by step. From national strategies to smart robots, from young caregivers to digital helpers, we explore how silver and youth can shine together. And today, we are having roundtables heart to heart segment where we hear from you, our listeners. You've sent us your thoughts, questions, and dilemmas, and now it's our turn to respond with insights, advice, and maybe a little tough love. But before that, When we talk about the future, we often picture youth, innovation, energy, possibility.

但关键在于：中国的未来同样闪烁着银发光芒。到2035年，中国每三人中就有一位年过六旬。不，这并非危机。

But here's the thing. China's future is also a bit silver. By 2035, one in three people in China will be 60. No. It's not a crisis.

而是重新思考代际间如何生活、工作与相互照护的契机。那么在这个快节奏的社会里，老龄化意味着什么？年轻人如何从科技创业者转型为社区关怀者？在这个特别时刻，让我们探寻当代中国银发族与年轻一代的相遇。请先为我们解释为何今天是个特别日子？

It is an opportunity to rethink how generations live, work, and care for one another. So what does aging mean in a society that's moving faster than ever? How are young people redefining their roles from tech innovators to community caregivers? On this special occasion, let's find out how silver meets youth in today's China. And please explain to us how come it's a special occasion.

因为今天是重阳节，也称重九节。这个节日在中国已有数百年历史。嗯，确实如此。它定在农历九月初九，因此得名重阳节。

Because today is the Double Ninth Festival, also named the Chongyang Festival. It's been celebrated here in China for hundreds of years Mhmm. For sure. And it falls on the ninth day of the ninth month of the Chinese lunar calendar. Thus, name double ninth festival.

它的根源可以追溯到古老的阴阳理论。阴阳代表自然界中两种对立的力量，阴象征女性与被动，阳象征男性与主动。在这种信仰体系中，偶数属阴，奇数属阳。因此农历九月初九‘重阳节’得名于双阳相重，‘重’在中文里有‘双倍’之意，即双阳节。

So it has its roots in the ancient theory of the yin and the yang. So that's the two opposing forces in nature with yin representing the feminine and passive side, while the yang representing the masculine and active side. And the and in this very belief system, even numbers belongs to yin and the odd numbers belongs to yang. And so by saying the ninth day of the ninth lunar month, bringing together two young numbers, hence the name chong, yang as in chong in Chinese means doubling. So doubling young.

当我们解析这个名字时，它还暗示着：在中国传统观念中，九是最大的奇数，象征长寿。因此这一天长久以来被视为敬老的吉日，祈愿长者长寿，表达对他们的尊重与爱。

So as we decipher a little bit on the name, it also suggest that since nine in traditional Chinese belief is the highest odd number and symbolizes longevity, this day, therefore, has long been seen as a auspicious time to honor the elderly and wish for longevity for them and, yeah, respect and love for them.

我很好奇加拿大是否有类似节日。查阅后发现这更像是一个国际性节日。加拿大政府将10月1日定为‘全国老年人日’，这个日子已经过去了，我甚至都没注意到。

I was curious to know if we had this kind of thing in Canada. So I looked it up and it's more of an international thing than it is anything else. The government of Canada, they have National Seniors Day. It's on October 1. It passed already, and I didn't even realize it passed already.

但这个节日源自联合国1990年12月设立的‘国际老年人日’。所以我们确实有这个节日，但显然没有中国这样的历史底蕴。

But that's from the International Day of Older Persons, which was established by the United Nations in December 1990. So we do have something, but obviously, it doesn't have the history that it has here in China.

是的。在中国传统文化信仰中，家中有长者绝对是值得庆祝的事。他们充满智慧，有丰富经验可以分享，我们尊崇他们。正因如此，人们不仅在这一天庆祝在世长者，还会祭奠祖先——那些更早的先辈。

Yes. And here in China, in the Chinese belief system as well as traditions, we believe having a older person at home is definitely something to celebrate. They're wise. They have a lot of experience share, and we honor them. We respect them, which is why sometimes not only are people spending the day to celebrate these seniors, they're also paying respect to the ancestors, the older than the older ones.

另外由于这个节日通常在秋季（虽然今年北京已入寒冬），秋高气爽时，人们会进行郊游、登山等活动，这也成为重阳节非常流行的习俗。但核心意义还是在于敬老。

And also because it's usually usually in autumn time, not this day in Beijing these days. Beijing's in cold, cold winter already, but it's usually in autumn time. So the weather is very nice. You can go enjoy a little bit autumn outing if it's a thing, and you can enjoy mountain climbing, which is why mountain climbing is also a very common activity, popular one for the Double Ninth Festival. But mainly, it's about the elder generation.

那么有什么特别的食物吗？我们知道在中国的重要节日里，美食几乎是人们最期待的。这个节日有什么特色饮食呢？

So are there any special foods? We know that during big holidays here in China, the food is is number one on the list of things that people look forward to almost. How about for this day?

是的，既有食物也有饮品。最让我个人觉得有趣的是它们都源自一种名为菊花的花卉。在古代，中国人会在每年深秋时节采摘菊花，将其制成菊花酒和菊花糕，以此达到些许解毒的效果。熟悉传统中医草药的人可能知道，菊花具有强大的平息体内燥火的功效。

Yes. Food and also drink. And most inspiring thing that I personally found very interesting is that they all come from one type of flower called the chrysanthemum flower. So in ancient times, Chinese people harvest chrysanthemum flower at this time of the year, which is late autumn season, and they make it into chrysanthemum wine and also chrysanthemum cakes as a way to, you know, detoxify a little bit. We those of you who are familiar with traditional TCM, herbal medicine will perhaps know that chrathensibum flower has a strong power of calming down the inner flame within your body.

这也是一个静心养神、预防深秋寒意的时节。重阳节期间，菊花酒成为传统饮品，象征着避灾祈福。而菊花糕则蕴含文字游戏——中文里“糕”与“高”同音，寓意步步高升、年年进步。这两者都是这个节日的标志性食物。接下来要介绍的这个习俗我还没体验过，很是期待。

It's also a time to just calm down, have some chill time to and also prevent chills in late autumn. And for this season, chrysanthemum wine becomes a traditional drink during the double night festival symbolizing protection from misfortune. And then the chrysanthemum cake has it's a it's a little bit like a word game here because in Chinese, the cake is called or and the word is sounds this sounds very same similar to the Chinese word of high, tall, or just to symbolize progress and promotion network or a lofty goal, let's say, in daily life and improvements in life by a year by year. So that the both of them are just very iconic food for this very occasion. And also, I think this following one is something I haven't tried, I'm looking forward to.

那就是佩戴茱萸香囊，这个传统已有数百年历史。最近我听的一本唐朝历史有声书提到，在重阳节这天，人们会把这种气味浓郁的茱萸草药装入丝质小袋佩戴在身上，用以驱邪避秽。

That's wearing a dogwood sachet or a dogwood or cornice sachet, which is something very traditional. It also has hundreds of years. It it's something featured in Tang dynasty historic audiobook that I'm listening to recently that on this very day on the double ninth festival, people would put this kind of herb that has a strong fragrance called cornice or dogwood into small sachets, into small silky bags and wear them on your body as a way to drive away evil spirits

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and

预防感冒生病。

prevent, getting sick or flu.

这是节日的历史文化内涵。但在今天，我们不得不思考社会现状——中国60岁以上人口已占总人口的22%，65岁以上占15%。预计到2035年，60岁以上人口比例将超过30%。

And that's the historical and cultural side of the festival. But on this day, we cannot help but reflect on the society today because today in China, we have people 60 accounting for twenty two percent of the entire population, and people 65, fifteen percent. And we talked about in 2035, it's projected that over 30% of people would be 60.

是的，老龄化将在2050年左右达到峰值，在此之前会持续加剧。

Yeah. And it's gonna peak at around twenty fifty. So it's gonna continue up until that time.

这意味着我们的社会是包容的，也必将成为越来越多老年人的家园。如何使其适应他们、适合他们、让他们感到舒适，是我们至少已讨论五到十年的议题，因为国家已在这方面采取行动。有不同类型的策略和科学研究，以及使社会对老年人更友好的各种方法。服务覆盖面已很广泛，特别是近年来由国家层面推动的举措。因此，

Which means that our society is welcoming and also definitely going to be home for more and more senior people. And how to make it adaptable to them, suitable to them, comfortable for them is the topic that we've been talking about, I think, at least for five, ten years because the chun has been there and the country is doing something about it. And there are different types of strategies and different types of scientific research as well as different ways to make the society more friendly to the elders. There are a large coverage of services already, especially in recent years, that's initiated by this our country on the national side. So by

到2024年，中国基本养老保险覆盖人数超过10亿，较上年增加600多万。此外，中国的养老服务也在近年来持续完善。截至2024年底，全国各类养老机构设施约40.6万个。这是我们已经在推进的工作，但当前仍面临更多挑战需要解决。其中一个重要方向就是多次被圆桌会议讨论的银发经济。

the 2024, more than 1,000,000,000 people enjoyed coverage under China's basic old age insurance, an increase of over 6,000,000 from the previous year. And, also, China's elderly care services are also improving since a few years ago. Also, by the conclusion of 2024, there were about 406,000 elderly care institutions and facilities of various types across the country. So that's something we have been already working on, but there are indeed more challenges that we are still facing and trying to address nowadays. And one way is the huge silver economy that has been discussed on roundtable for multiple times.

我认为它涵盖的领域太广了，甚至不知从何介绍起。它本质上是消费与养老服务的结合，面向这个国家的银发群体。

That is I think it covers so many different areas. I don't even know where shall I start to introduce it. It's just a combination of consumption and and elder elderly care for the silver hair group of population in this country.

确实。这也是经济中非常庞大的组成部分。根据复旦大学老龄研究院的报告，若人均消费保持适度增速，到2035年银发经济规模可能突破19万亿元（约2.7万亿美元）。这个数字意义重大——将占消费总额的28%和GDP的10%。展望2050年，该领域预计将扩张至近50万亿元，占消费的35%和GDP的12.5%。

Yeah. And it's a huge, huge segment of the economy as well. So if the per capita consumption grows at a moderate pace, this is from the Fudan Institute on Aging, this is according to their report, if the growth continues at a modern pace, the silver economy could reach over 19,000,000,000,000 yuan, that's almost 2,700,000,000,000.0 by 2035. Now that's a significant number because it would account for almost 28% of total consumption and almost 10% of GDP. Fast forward that to 2050, and the sector is expected to expand to nearly 50,000,000,000,000 yuan or 35%, some 35% of consumption and 12 and a half percent of GDP.

这意味着从现在到本世纪中叶，中国不仅将拥有全球最多的老年人口，还将形成最大的银发消费市场，这带来巨大的发展机遇——这个群体既有消费能力，又能反哺经济，对众多企业和从业者都是重大机会。

And what that means is that from now until the middle of this century, China will not only host the world's largest elderly population, but also the largest silver consumer market, and that offers vast development opportunities because, the people who exist within that segment, they have money to spend, they contribute back to the economy, and that's a big opportunity for a lot of people, for a lot of businesses.

因此我们更应积极拥抱银发经济和老龄化社会。2019年11月，中国多部门联合发布了《积极应对人口老龄化中长期规划》，要求到2022年初步建立应对制度框架，涉及劳动力供给、优质医疗服务体系、科技应用适老化改造、老年友好型社会环境等多方面。这些宏观目标需要落实到无数生活细节的改进与调整中，才能真正助力战略实现。

All the more reasons to embrace the silver economy and also the aging society. And that is why in November 2019, China jointly unveiled a medium and long term plan for responding proactively to population aging. Different departments in the Chinese government jointly unveiled that, and the plan requires establishing the basic institutional framework for tackling population aging by 2022. And there are different aspects, including improved labor supply, a high quality health service system, the application of technology in responding to population aging and elderly friendly social environment. All these are big words, but there are so many different details and aspects of life that need to be improved and need to be adjusted to fit in the line to be able to help people accomplish these goals in these strategies.

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刚才提到，红林，这是一个中长期规划，其中包含五个重点方面。首先是经济保障部分，包括改善收入分配、充实养老储备金，以及建立公平可持续的社会保障体系。其次是劳动就业板块，通过加强教育、终身学习（包括老年教育）来保障优质劳动力供给，推动更充分更高质量的就业。随后当然是医疗卫生领域——构建覆盖预防、治疗、康复、长期护理和临终关怀的综合医疗服务体系。

just mentioned, Hong Lin, that's a medium and long term plan, and and it has five different aspects that's being noted here. The first one is, of course, the economic security part. That includes improving income distribution, strengthening pension reserves, and also creating a fair and sustainable social security system. Second of all is the labor and employment side of this note. So that's to ensure sufficient and high quality labor by enhancing education, lifelong learning, including for seniors as well, and just promote promoting a fuller, better quality employment, then followed by health care, of course, building a comprehensive health system a health service system rather that's covering prevention, treatment, rehabilitation, and long term and hospice care as well.

接下来是科技板块，通过促进创新辅助技术来帮助老年人提升生活质量。最后同样重要的是社会环境建设，鼓励全社会（不仅是老年人）共同营造这样的

And then there's technology, promoting innovation and assistive technologies to help elder people to live better, to live with a higher quality of life. Last but not least, of course, there's the social environment, foster which encourage all of us, not just the elders, to foster such a

尊老敬老文化氛围，完善法律保障体系，确保老年人享有充实生活。是的，我们之前提到过，整个社会正在向老龄化未来迈进。但值得关注的是——我们在圆桌会议上多次讨论过——如今越来越多的年轻人正主动参与助老事业，比如通过研究应用程序细节来改造家居环境，让这些软件更便于长辈使用。有些年轻人甚至投身于高科技领域，

culture of respecting and caring for the elderly, improving legal protections, and also ensuring seniors to live a fulfilled life. Yes. We mentioned this earlier that is the entire society is moving moving towards a aging society kind of future. But what's been interesting well, on the roundtable, we talked about this several times, but what's interesting these days is that we see more and more young people actively get themselves involved in helping the elder generation, for example, adapting their homes from little details research on certain apps so that it's easier for the younger well, the older generation to use that app. And sometimes they are also working on high-tech.

或许三五年后，我们就能看到机器人助手在家庭中照料老人。

Maybe in three or five years, we'll be looking at a robotic helper in the home taking care of the senior.

我认为用不了三五年，可能三四个月就能实现。

I don't think that's three or five years away. I think that maybe three or five months away.

哦，那更酷了。那么年轻人还能在老龄化社会中扮演哪些角色呢？

Oh, that's even cooler. So what are some other examples we see as young people, you know, finding their roles in an aging society?

是的，我认为职业参与是重要方式之一。早在2019年就有计划鼓励高校开设养老专业，当时的长期目标是推动全国各省至少一所高校开设家政服务或老年护理专业。次年就有两所大学率先开设了全国首批养老本科专业。从政策建议到专业落地，这个过程非常迅速对吧？

Yeah. I think becoming involved work wise is one of the big ways, and it was back in 2019 when plans were announced to encourage universities to set up dedicated elder care degrees. So the long term goal at that time was to convince at least one high education institution in each province in the country to launch a home economics or elder elder care program. Two universities launched the country's first elder care bachelor's degrees the following year. So it happened very quickly, right, from the recommendation to the actual launch of the degree.

2024年首批学生完成了他们的课程项目。这对高校开设此类专业至关重要，因为如果没有经过培训的工作人员，再多的养老机构也无济于事——这正是当前面临的核心问题之一。亚洲开发银行的报告指出，中国老年护理工作者大多仅具备初中或以下学历，因此行业亟需更多专业人才。为吸引这些毕业生加入，雇主们正提供各类激励措施。

And then the first batch of students completed their programs in 2024. And this is an an important step for universities to offer these types of programs because it doesn't matter how many elder care companies there are if you don't have the trained staff employed within those centers, and that's one of the issues is a lack of trained staff. There was a report from the Asian Development Bank that talked about the fact that senior care workers in China predominantly have a junior high school education or lower. So they were looking to have more qualified individuals within within the sector. And to get those graduates to lure, if you will, these specialists, employers are are offering various incentives.

有些企业提供更高薪资，有些提供全面的保险福利，还有些承诺独特的企业文化（抱歉）和舒适的工作环境。所有这些举措都是为了吸引年轻人选择大学里的相关专业，并最终投身老年护理事业。

Some will provide higher salaries, some will provide comprehensive insurance benefits, and others will promise a unique corporate culture culture, excuse me, and a comfortable work environment. So all of those things are meant to attract the younger people to get involved with those majors from those universities and then pursue a career in elder care.

确实，对于那些选择相关专业并计划从事老年护理行业的人来说，这是一条职业道路。但像我们这些非相关专业的人，也在通过其他方式贡献力量。比如我个人就经常帮助家乡的老人跨越数字鸿沟——帮他们修理电子设备、教他们使用手机应用。这是当下数百万老人面临的实际困境，有些人甚至分不清医院的自助挂号机和检验报告打印机。

Yeah. Indeed, a career, especially for those who who took the majors and do plan to fulfill a a career in elderly care sectors. But there are also the rest of us who don't necessarily major in such, say, degrees or professionalities. That's where me personally take part in a lot of the side when I am required to help the elderly back in back home to bridge digital gap and help them fix certain online little gadgets and teach them how to use certain apps. And, yeah, that's just a problem faced very practically by millions and millions of elders today that some of them have trouble distinguishing between self-service registration machines, let's say, and those for assessing test results in hospitals.

这种现象如今愈发普遍。尽管各场所都有青年志愿者协助，但面对庞大的老年群体（甚至不止老年人），援助力量仍显不足。许多年轻人正投入大量精力解决这个痛点。我的经历只是个案，比如2024年网络报道的年轻人小冯——他在视频中分享了邀请百名青年加入'别人家父母'互助计划的倡议。

That's even more common nowadays. Despite the help of young volunteers in these different venues, there is still a significant lack of assistance for the large larger, if not elderly population. So there are young people throwing in efforts, tons and tons of efforts to address that pain point. For me, it's just a one case scenario, but there are other cases such as this young person. Let's just call him Feng that's being reported in the 2024 report online saying that Feng shared in in one video of his plan to invite a 100 young people to join the mutual assistance initiative for other people's parents.

这个名字作为开头很有趣。这个想法是让参与者通过提供帮助来支持老年旅行者，比如搬运行李或使用智能设备。这样，无论你来自哪里，无论你的背景或职业是什么，年轻人都可以聚集在一起，只需奉献一点时间就能提供帮助。

That's an interesting name as a start. The idea was to for participants to support elderly travelers by offering help with tasks like carrying luggage or using smart devices. So young people, in this way, can be gathered together wherever you're from, whichever background or career you are in, to just devote a little bit of your time and help out.

中国不同城市和省份有很多这类活动和倡议。2025年4月，广东省举办了一场科技创新竞赛，其中一个问题是让年轻团队思考如何利用人工智能为老年人打造一个智能助浴中心。应该使用哪些算法？需要考虑哪些要点？如何确保安全性？

There are a lot of these kind of campaigns and activities in different cities and different provinces here in China. In twenty twenty five, April, in Guangdong province, there was a scientific innovation competition, and one of the question they ask young teams to solve is that how to use AI to facilitate a artificial intelligence aid smart bathing center for older people. What are the algorithm you should be using? What are some points you should take into consideration? How to make sure it's safe?

如何确保他们对服务感到满意？在湖南省，有一个大学志愿者团队，他们前往相对偏远的地区和村庄，走进老人家中询问需求。他们发放问卷了解生活中的潜在风险。这些老人甚至不明白，随着年龄增长，他们需要所谓的'防婴儿'措施，更准确说是'防老人'措施——比如减少地面湿滑、包裹尖锐边角以防受伤。

How to make sure they're happy with the services? And in Hunan province, a specific I think it's a volunteer team from a university. What they did is that they went to relatively remote areas and villages, and they go into the homes of those elder people, and they ask what they need. They send out questionnaires about what are some risks in their lives. These people, they do not even understand that after a certain or when they age to a certain age, they need to quote unquote baby proof, but more like elder proof their homes to make certain places less slippery, to wrap up the sharp edges of certain areas so they do not get hurt.

志愿者团队里的这些年轻人正是这么做的。他们改造了村里的几户住宅，帮助了那些老人。这些虽不是重大政策或战略，但正是这些小小的例子、小小的行动改变了人们的生活。

And these young people in the volunteer group did exactly that. They transformed several homes in the village and helped those elder people. Now these are not major policies or strategies, but these little examples, these little actions, they change lives.

确实如此。既然你之前提到了机器人，我也想提一下。科技正在发挥作用。我们看到了年轻人如何贡献力量，科技同样也在发挥作用。你刚才说的是三到五年。

They do. And since you mentioned robots before, I want to mention this as well. This is how technology is playing its role. We learned how young people are playing their role, but technology is playing playing a role as well. You said three five three to five years.

我说的是三到五个月。其实我应该说三到五分钟——因为在深圳的一家养老院，机器人已成为住在那里的老人们日常生活中非常重要的一部分。这些机器人每天陪老人下棋，与他们一起做某种治疗，还提供行动辅助。那里还使用了外骨骼机器人来帮助老年使用者。

I said three to five months. I should have said three to five minutes because in Shenzhen, at a nursing home there, robots are now a really important part of daily life for the for the people who live there. And the robots, they play chess with the seniors on a daily basis, and, they do a type of therapy together with the seniors, and they provide mobility assistance as well. And there are also exoskeletons in use. Exoskeleton robots, those are assisting elderly users.

我们讨论过它们在登山中的应用。嗯，这是外骨骼的应用场景之一。但科技也被善加利用，为国内这个不断壮大的群体提供支持。

We talked about the use in mountain climbing. Mhmm. That's one of the places where we're finding them there. But just technology being put to good use as well to help support one of the growing and larger communities here in the country.

我们终有一天都会变老。对吧？希望如此。

We'll all be old one day. Right. Is there any Hopefully.

但愿如此。

Knock on wood.

是的，当然。那么你认为哪方面更重要呢？

Yes. Yes. Of course. Yes. So do you think which is more important?

科技？指的是我们或许能生活在一个不再需要依赖人类护工的时代。我们只需与机器人协作，它们会送来我们所需的食物，在紧急情况下提供帮助。或者您认为社会氛围——即这个社会非常包容和可爱，不仅尊重老年人，同时坚信在某些情况下老年人反而更具价值——这种说法可能用词不当。

Technology? In the sense that we might be able to live in a day and age where we don't really need to depend on human caregivers. We just, you know, work with the robots who will bring us the food we need, who will help us when there's an emergency. Or do you think the atmosphere of the society, that is the society being very inclusive and very lovable, and they not only respect the elderly, but also at the same time believe that even senior people see, that is a wrong wording. Senior people are even more valuable in certain cases.

他们不仅能享受社会，还能以各自的方式回馈社会。在您看来，哪方面更重要？当然您也可以说两者都重要。

They can not only enjoy the society, but also contribute to the society in their own ways. Which, in your opinion, is more important? And you can say both.

我本想说两者兼顾，但让我先从您提出的第二个观点开始讨论。我认为在这种情况下，这是所有社会在不同情境下都更理想的发展方向，但可以说有了技术的辅助，情况会变得更好。是的。

I wanted to say both, but let me let me just start with the the the second opinion where the aspects that you suggested. I think in that case, it's something that's more ideal for all societies to work out in all different scenarios, but let's just say with the help of technology, it's going to be bettered. So yeah.

我想说，为什么不能两者兼得呢？

I would say, why can't it be both?

确实可以两者兼顾。是的。

It can be both. Yeah.

我认为在力所能及的领域善用科技是非常明智的做法。虽然我们总希望有人能提供支持，但有时后勤条件确实不允许。我记得看过一个关于老年辅助机器人的视频故事——可能在节目里提到过——那是个可爱的小机器，既扮演朋友角色，又能提醒服药等事项，这类应用非常实用。但我们不希望用机器人让老年群体在人生最后阶段与社会隔绝，所以通过大学项目让年轻人参与进来，就能形成双向互动的关系。

Making use of of tech to help where it it can help, I think, is a really smart thing to do because sometimes, yeah, we always want to have the people there to offer their support, but sometimes it's just not logistically possible. So I remember hearing about a story, watching a video about a story, I think I brought it up on the show, about an elderly assistance robot, but it was this cute little machine, and it was it played the role of a friend, but it also played the role of a reminder to take medicine and things like that, so that can be put to great use. But we don't want to isolate the community with robots for the last stages of their lives, so having these programs from universities, having young people involved, it makes the relationship reciprocal.

嗯。

Mhmm.

这是一个社区回馈另一个社区，正是这样整个社会才能良好运转。

It's one community giving back to the other community, and that's how a society functions very well as a whole.

我提出这个问题是因为我认为我们本不该提出这些问题。如今我们看到许多年轻人以不同方式帮助年长一代的例子，但他们也应向长辈学习，毕竟这些人几乎度过了完整的一生，有太多经验可以分享。正因如此，除了让年轻人帮助社会对长者更包容外，我们还看到一些年轻人搬入老年人口比例较高的社区，与这些长者共同生活。他们向长者咨询生活与职业问题，并发起跨代际的聚会活动，最终呈现出美好的景象。

I'm asking the question because I don't think we should be asking the questions. Now we see a lot of examples of young people helping the elder generation in different ways, but they should also be learning from the seniors because they just they lived their entire life or well, almost, and they have a lot to share. And that is why on top of having younger people helping to make the society more tolerant and inclusive for the elders, We are also looking at some young people moving into certain communities that are having a higher percentage of the seniors, and they live together with with these people. They also consult with their life problems, their career problems, and they initiate the kind of gathering together, meetings and parties with people from all different age group. And it ended up beautifully.

大家都玩得很开心。

Everyone's having a good time.

说到开心，我并不担心老年社区的社交问题。就在我们工作场所周围多个地方，傍晚时分我总能看到公园里的舞蹈派对。

And speaking of having a good time, I'm not worried about the social aspect of the senior communities. Multiple places just around our workplace in the evening times. I've seen the dance parties in the park.

他们跳得很棒。

They are good.

他们正享受着人生中最美好的时光。而且这还只是周二晚上呢，根本不必等到周末，尽情享受当下吧。

They are having the time of their lives. And this is like on a Tuesday evening. There's no need to wait for the weekend. Go on and have a time.

是的。这让我们来到今天节目的尾声。由于时间关系，我们未能播出'心灵对话'环节，将这个环节移至明天的节目吧。同时，我们很期待听到您对今天话题的见解。

Yes. And that brings us to the end of today's show. We didn't have time to air our heart to heart segment. Let's move it to tomorrow's show. And at the same time, we'd love to hear your thoughts on today's topics.

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