骗局、马塞洛·里奥斯与拉里·斯特凡尼的执教经验 | Q&Andy

好吧。

Alright.

嘿，大家好。

Hey, everyone.

欢迎来到本周的Q与Andy节目。

Welcome to this week's Q and Andy episode.

听好了。

Listen.

我知道到这个时候，你们可能已经听了周二与拉里·斯特凡基的那期节目，而我们要再深入一步。

I know at this point, you probably listen to Tuesday's episode with the Larry Stefanki, and we are going to double that shit down.

他今天来回答你们提交的问题。

He is here to answer the questions that you sent in.

那么，不多说了，这位在过去三十年里培养了众多我们所喜爱的明星的教练——拉里·斯特凡基。

So without further ado, coach to many of the stars that we have loved for the past thirty years, Larry Stefanki.

肖恩，我们的听众都提出了哪些问题？

Sean, what have our listeners sent in?

我们收到了来自Racket Lifestyle的Mitch的第一个视频问题。

We got a first video question from Mitch from Racket Lifestyle.

如果你要描述和安迪一起的这段经历，你会怎么形容？

If you could describe that experience with Andy, how would you describe it?

用哪个词？

What phrase?

用哪个词？

What word?

也许你会把拉里和安迪的关系比作哪部电影？

Maybe what movie would you, would you call the Larry Andy relationship?

第二部分是带着 hindsight 回顾过去。

And second part is with some hindsight going back.

如果你能重来一次，你会有什么不同的做法？

And and and if you could do it again, if you will, what would you do differently?

你会增加什么？

What would you add?

你会去掉什么？

What would you take away?

也许有哪些你希望当时能做的缺失环节，能帮助安迪在更多比赛中更进一步？

What were maybe some missing components that you wish you would have done that could have taken Andy across the line in a few more tournaments?

很沉重。

Heavy.

什么电影？

What movie?

别管电影了。

Forget the movie.

专注于其他事情。

Get focus on the other stuff.

好的。

Okay.

我觉得安迪回答得还可以。

Well, I think Andy answered okay.

首先，那个家伙的发型。

First of all, that guy's hairdo.

那到底是什么情况？

What was that all about?

我喜欢那个。

I I like that.

我也该弄个类似的。

I should get something like that.

为了那头乱发，我愿意做任何糟糕的事。

I would do terrible things for that that mop.

如果我能从他职业生涯一开始就和他在一起就好了，因为他在四年半的时间里取得了巨大的进步。很多人都跟我提过这一点，说我真希望早点和安迪合作。

Well, if I could've if he could've been together with him to start his career, because he came so much farther over the four and a half years, That that has actually been told to me a lot, that I only wish that you you started with Andy earlier.

我也这么觉得，因为我们的性格很合得来，大家的想法也都基本一致。

And I do too because of our our personalities, what what you know, how we gelled together and we're all pretty much on the same page.

从他职业生涯一开始就合作是件很容易的事，我认为他本可以取得更多的成就。

That was the easy part of just being starting with his career, think he would have attained even more in my opinion.

天啊，这个问题的前半部分是个电影吗？

Geez, the first part of the question is a movie?

好吧。

Okay.

那是什么，《低俗小说》？

What is that, Pulp Fiction?

天啊。

Jeez.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

这显然是

That's obviously

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

嗯，谁知道一边会发生什么，另一边呢？

Well, who knows what would be going on on one side, the other side?

不。

No.

但是，不。

But, no.

安迪，还有是的。

Andy and yeah.

天哪。

Jeez.

我们确实完成了很多。

We did we accomplished quite a bit.

很多。

Quite a bit.

好吧？

Okay?

顺便说一下，温布尔登那边根本就不是两个得分点。

And then it was just not two points on Wimbledon, by the way, anyway.

一个得分点。

One point.

这样我们和我……

That way we and and I k.

昨天，你信不信，我看了那份事实清单。

Yesterday, believe it or not, I looked at that fact sheet.

这是我十四年来第一次，好吧。

First time in my life, okay, in fourteen years.

我不知道你是否记得我们之前谈论发球的时候。

I don't know if you remember when we talk about serving.

他发出了50个ACE球。

He had 50 aces.

你得了27分。

You got 27.

我知道。

I know.

那是你职业生涯中唯一一次完胜他。

That's the only time in your career you outplayed him.

那是体育生涯中你必须接受的一刻，实在很难咽下这口气。

That was one that in sports you gotta live with and that was tough to swallow and stomach.

但它确实展现了你有多大的进步，以及你通过艰苦训练、不懈努力、敢于打磨技术而获得的自信。

But it did show how much you improved and the confidence that you gained from doing the hard mile, the hard work, and not afraid to, like, work on your game to get better.

很多孩子觉得，哦，我得分已经很多了，没必要打那么多球， blah blah blah，结果水平并不高。

A lot of these kids think, oh, I make a lot of I don't need to play that much and then blah blah blah, and they're not very good.

而你可不是那种人。

And, you weren't one of those guys.

我的意思是，你只是想站在赛场上，确保自己有机会赢得大满贯。

I mean, you you just wanted to be able to be in the arena to make sure that you had a chance to win slams.

我真的很感激那段与你同行的时光，现在要找到那样的默契真的很难。

And I really appreciated, that ride for you, and it's it's hard to find that that that chemistry now.

他们嘴上这么说，但真能身体力行吗？

They say it, but will they live it?

比如，我的水平一度从一升到二，再到三、五、六，等我和拉里搭档时，我已经到了八，甚至可能还在走下坡路，后来我们又回到了三。

Like, just the levels like, I was I went from, you know, one to two to three to five to six to by the time Larry and I got together, I was eight and maybe heading the the wrong direction, and we got back to three.

在迈阿密赢得了一些大师赛，差点就赢了温布尔登。

Some master series wins in Miami, almost won Wimbledon.

所以，那是一次巨大的重新调整。

So, like, there was there was a a large reset.

但我也从中学到了一个教训：第一，自我认知很重要。

But, also, there's the the lesson I'll take from it is, one, self awareness matters.

对吧？

Right?

我明白，我在巡回赛上取得过一些成功，赢过不少大师赛，还当过世界第一，诸如此类。

I understand that I, you know, had had some success on tour, won a bunch of master series events, been number one in the world, all this stuff.

而且，那时网球的发展方向根本不是那样。

And, also, that's just not where the game was going.

而认真反思自己时，我意识到，我根本不可能每天靠着身体当时的状态去碾压对手。

And the hard look in the mirror was like, I actually can't just go through someone every day with what my body was allowing me to do.

当我和拉里在一起时，他说我的发球还不错，但比2003或2004年时少了10%到15%。

Like, when Larry and I got together, he says I had a a good serve, but it was 10 or 15% less than what it was in o three or o four.

你知道，当我试图打出一记平击正手时，肩膀的疼痛甚至比上网时还要厉害。

You know, the the shoulder hurt more when I was trying to clean a forehand flat than it did when I was coming around.

但说实话，我也不确定。

So but, like, I don't know.

这是一种情况：当你根本不是热门人选时，赢下两个球都很难。

It's one of those things where I does not winning two points when you're, like, not the favorite.

顺便说一句，那届比赛里，根本没人觉得我有丝毫机会赢穆雷。

And by the way, I wasn't given a chance in hell of beating Murray that tournament.

没错。

That's right.

嗯，休伊特，你逃过一劫。

Well, Hewitt Hewitt, you escaped.

我的意思是，通过

I mean, with

第五盘中那记正手直线截击，你知道的，

the half volley up the line backhand, you know, in the fifth

四局之中。

of four.

转过头去。

Looking away.

是的。

Yeah.

在那之前，比约恩·博格也是这样，那真是个噩梦般的夜晚。

And then Bjorn Borg before that too was like, you know, what a night that was a nightmare.

不管怎样，我不认为任何教练能理解当时所付出的努力。

Anyways, I I don't think we can, like, it was any coach understands the work that was done.

那我们会改变什么？

So what would we change?

我想不出我们除了结果之外还有什么需要改变的，而结果并不是流程上的改变。

I can't think of much we would change besides a result, and that's not a change in process.

你知道的？

You know?

我对我们的做法和所做的事情没有任何遗憾。

That I don't have any regrets about how we went about it or what we did.

也许你觉得不一样，但我不会回头说，如果我们改了这一点——我是说，如果我们没改这一点，我们可能就不会有机会看到那个篮筐，在我看来。

Maybe maybe you think differently, but I don't I don't look back and say, if we would have changed this I'm saying if we wouldn't have changed this, we wouldn't have had a look at the basket in my opinion.

我认为我们在中途已经尽了我们所能，因为我是在职业生涯中期加入的。

I think we did pretty much all we could possibly do mid mid because I jumped in mid career.

快结束的时候，你正朝着那个方向下滑，你知道的。

Near the end, you were kind of going down, you know, that way, that direction.

你知道的？

You know?

但你确实调整了方向。

And and but you you you cinched up, changed direction.

是的。

Yeah.

需要一位自信的教练才能果断放弃一个拖后腿的项目。

Takes takes takes a takes a takes a confident coach to jump on an anchor.

肖恩，不是的。

Sean, what No.

那是下一个

That's the next

问题。

question.

幸运的是，我们确实。

And luckily luckily we yeah.

幸运的是，我们有布鲁克林。

Luck luckily luck luckily, we we had Brooklyn.

明白吗？

Okay?

因为我说的每句话，布鲁克林都会在背后接住。

Because everything I'd say, Brooklyn would get it in the back of.

我心想，天哪。

And I'm saying, oh my god.

因为布鲁克林，她会和老安迪一起开球。

Because Brooklyn, she'll tee it up with old Andy.

明白吗？

Okay?

所以这就是为什么，你知道的，我无比爱她，因为她根本不会退缩。

So and and that's why I, you know, I love her to death because she was not gonna she was no back off.

我害怕两个人，拉里·斯特凡基和布鲁克林·戴克。

I fear two people, Larry Stefanki and Brooklyn Decker.

你能问下一个问题吗，肖恩？

Can you what's the, what's what's what's the next question, Sean?

好的。

Alright.

说到布鲁克林·戴克，我们有一个来自布罗克的问题。

Speaking of Brooklyn Decker, we have a question from Brooke.

哦，该死。

Oh, fuck.

请解释一下‘淀粉球’和‘花言巧语’这两个术语。

Please explain the term starch ball and flimflam.

老样子。

The old okay.

我能先做个背景说明吗？

I can I set context here?

所以我需要你来定义一下。

So I need you to define.

这太棒了。

This is great.

淀粉球，我们在大一期节目中解释过了。

Starch Ball, we explained in the big episode.

如果你还没听过，网上肯定有片段，或者直接去听那一期吧。

If you if you haven't heard it, there's a clip up I'm sure and or just listen to that episode.

我们已经详细讲过淀粉球和卡塔尔的情况了。

We already went through the full Starch Ball and and Qatar situation.

所以拉里总有这么多所谓的‘拉里语’，你一开始根本不知道他在说什么，但一个月后你突然就全明白了。

So Larry has all these, like, we call them Larryisms where you don't know what the fuck he's talking about, and then a month later, you fully understand what he's talking about.

对吧？

Right?

他会说，哦，这个家伙，这个孩子就是得咬紧牙关，做好准备。

So he'd be like, oh, this guy, this kid just just bear down, batten down the heads.

这人是个骗子。

This guy's a flimflammer.

这种说法大概意思是，他可能不够自律，或者容易累，或者一时半会儿搞不定——你能一次性彻底说清楚吗？这词我们到现在还在用。

And that kinda meant that, like, maybe he was not disciplined or maybe he would get tired or maybe so can you once and for all just and it's a term we still use today just

是的

Yeah.

每周一次。

Once a week.

我们还在用，那是什么？是个老词

We still What is It's an old

弗林弗拉默是什么意思，拉里？

What is a flimflammer, Larry?

弗林弗拉默。

The flimflammer.

好的。

Okay.

弗林弗拉默呢，就是那种说话和实际行动对不上的人。

Flimflammers, okay, are guy an individual that that that will will will speak but not match it up with where they're coming from.

所以你得付出努力，不能光靠嘴上说，你得真正做过，否则那只是空话。

So you gotta put in the work and so you have to be able to, not just say it in words, but you gotta match it up in that you've done it before or some sort of otherwise, it's just words.

明白吗？

Okay?

这其实没什么意义。

And it doesn't really mean anything.

所以我喜欢诚实的人，比如那个家伙，那个家伙真的付出了努力，我不在乎他是不是爱默生、希吉里斯，或者安迪·罗迪克。

So I like truth tellers in the sense of, oh, that guy that guy did the hard I don't care if it's, you know, Emerson, you know, Higuiris, Andy Roddick.

好的。

Okay.

那些人不是骗子。

Those guys are not flimflammers.

明白吗？

Okay?

那些人不仅用言语，更用行动证明了自己。

Those guys backed it up with not just words, with actions.

明白吗？

Okay?

这就是为什么我把很多家伙称为骗子。

And that's that's why I call a lot of guys flimflam.

我现在去看网球，发现每隔一个人就是个骗子。

I go to that tennis now, and it's like every other guy's a flimflammer.

明白吗？

Okay?

我甚至都不知道他们是从哪儿冒出来的。

And I don't even know where they come from.

明白吗？

Okay?

我在想，这些家伙是谁？

I'm thinking, who are these guys?

明白吗？

Okay?

他们全都是专家。

They're all experts.

每个人都是专家，但却没有任何资质来证明这一点。

Everyone's an expert, but they have nothing no credential to back it up.

所以这就是一个骗子。

So that's a flimflammer.

好吧。

Okay.

另一件事是淀粉球。

And then the other thing is the Starch Ball.

安迪忘了说，当他把那东西放在塑料袋里时，他把它扔到了墙上。

I Andy forgot to say, when he had that thing in a plastic, he threw it against the wall.

好吧？

Okay?

他说，你总是扫光所有的乐趣。

He said, you're always blowing all the fun.

你知道的？

You know?

他把它扔向

And and he threw it against

墙上。

the wall.

那东西溅得到处都是。

The thing splattered everywhere.

你知道吗，得饿到什么程度，才会在别人告诉你不能吃的时候把松饼扔出去？

You know how hungry you have to be to throw a muffin when someone tells you you can't have it?

你有没有因为饥饿而把食物扔掉过？

You ever thrown food out of out of hunger?

没有。

No.

从来没有。

Never.

没有。

No.

凌晨3点

3AM

在卡塔尔。

In Qatar.

即将飞往墨尔本。

About to fly to Melbourne.

凌晨3点。

3AM.

是的。

Yeah.

淀粉球。

Starch Ball.

带着一个淀粉球飞往墨尔本。

Fly to Melbourne with a starch ball in his stomach.

是的。

Yeah.

但那个骗子，是的，你必须得有，你知道的，否则，别说什么。

But the flimflammer, yeah, you need you need to have, you know, otherwise, you know, don't say anything.

就像安迪说的，拉里，如果你说了什么，最好能用几个事实来支撑。

Like Andy says, if you say something, Larry, you better be able to back it up with a couple facts on the end.

别光说点什么却什么依据都没有，他总是这样对我说。

Just don't say something and without and that's what he always says to me.

我们就这样，他呢，顺便说一下，拉里，请在训练时少说点话。

We we go this and he go and and by the way, Larry, please stop saying so much on the practice.

今天就给我一个要改进的点。

Give me one thing to work on today.

就左腿，左腿在后面，左。

Just left leg left leg on the back, left.

但别说‘左腿后移，后倾’。

But don't say left leg back, dip back.

我的大脑不是这样工作的。

My brain doesn't work that way.

好的。

Okay.

我喜欢每天只关注一件事。

I like one thing a day.

我说，好的。

I said, okay.

这花了一点时间才掌握，你知道的，因为大多数人能处理的比仅仅一件事要多。

That that took a little while to get, you know, under because most people can process a little more than just one thing.

但对于像他这样的人来说，这其实很聪明，因为信息过载没什么好处。

But in with guys that are at his it's it's actually smart because information overload is no good.

明白吗？

Okay?

当涉及到这个时，这是一条漫长的路。

When it comes to it's a long road.

这是一本很长的小说。

It's a long novel.

那个老骗子。

The old flimflammer.

接下来我们有什么，肖恩？

What do we got next, Sean?

好的。

Alright.

我们有一个来自大卫的问题。

We got a question from David.

在职业赛场上，许多教练的竞技水平并不如他们所训练的选手。

On the professional circuit, many coaches did not compete at the same level as the players they train.

在这种情况下，选手们是如何信任教练给出的建议的？

In those cases, how do players come to trust the advice their coaches give?

好问题，肖恩。

Good question, Sean.

没有。

Came no.

这不是我说的。

It's not from me.

这是大卫说的。

It's from David.

是大卫，大卫。

From David David.

大卫。

David.

好问题。

A great question.

很棒的问题。

Great question.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我是个……我是说，他们可以在书里读到这些。

I'm a I'm a I mean, they could read it in a book.

去网上看看。

Look on the Internet.

我指导这些我指导的这些人。

I coach these I coach these people.

我说过，从来没听说过你。

I said, so, never heard of you.

这些年轻球员。

These juniors.

他说，没有。

He goes, no.

没有。

No.

没有。

No.

我是个足球运动员，但我从网上学会了如何当教练。

I'm a soccer player, but I learned how to coach on the Internet.

我说，什么？

I went, what?

我有个问题要问你，因为我知道你接下来会说什么，你会说这根本不存在。

I have a question for you just because I I know what you're gonna say and you're gonna say, like, it doesn't exist.

而我有一部分也认同。

And I I part of me agrees.

这在网球中有什么特别之处吗？

Is it different specifically for tennis?

因为你看看像埃里克·斯波尔斯特拉这样的人，他是NBA最出色的现役教练之一，他最初是在迈阿密热火队的录像室里起步的。

Because you look at someone like, like an Eric Spolstra in in in NBA who's probably the best active NBA coach, and he started in the film room with with with the Miami Heat.

他执教过无数传奇人物和个性鲜明的球员。

And he's coached absolute legends and egos and all of these things.

这在网球中是特有的吗？

Is it specific to tennis?

如果答案是肯定的，为什么？

And if the answer is yes, why?

我只是觉得这有帮助。

Well, I just think it helps.

如果你曾经达到过较高水平的竞技状态，这真的能帮助你成为专家，理解球员正在经历什么，因为你曾经也经历过这些。

If you've played at any type of level of a higher level, it really helps in being an expert and knowing what the individual is going through, knowing that you've been there before and experienced that.

我不是说他是骗子。

And this is kind of like, okay I'm not saying he's a flimflammer.

我只是说，如果你真的没有亲身经历过，你就缺失了方程式中的一部分。

I'm just saying that if you really haven't gone through, you're missing a part of the equation.

明白吗？

Okay?

这在某种程度上关乎你作为教练的资历，以及你师从何人。

It helps in the sense of your credential as a coach, and who you studied under.

我很幸运，我有机会向许多伟大的球员学习，问了很多问题，但我还有一位导师，他曾在1938年指导过唐·布吉。

I I was lucky that I I had all these great players to learn a lot from and I asked a lot of questions, but I also had a guy that I learned an awful lot from who coached Don Budge in 1938.

是的。

Yes.

当谈到步法基础、提前击球以及掌控自己的命运时。

And and and when it when it comes to footwork fundamentals, taking the ball early, and being in control of your destiny.

汤姆·斯托是我在职业化后合作了两年的教练。

And Tom Stowe was someone that I worked with for two years after I turned pro.

我实际上是在伯克利大学大四快结束时才开始打主力的。

I actually started my senior near the end of my senior year at Berkeley.

现在回头看，那真是最棒的经历。

And I looked back at it now and it was the greatest thing.

我说，这人是谁？

Said, Who is this guy?

这人老得不行， blah blah blah。

This guy's old blah blah blah.

但这家伙懂行，JB 和我哥哥一起帮我引荐了他。

But this guy knew And then JB was the one that hooked me up with him along with my brother.

和汤姆相处五周后，我说：我要离开这家伙了。

I did After five weeks with Tom, I said, I'm leaving this guy.

这老头根本不懂弗林弗默。

This guy's an old doesn't know Flimflammer.

好吧，我确实是个弗林弗默。

Okay, I've got I'm flimflammer.

JB对我说，让我告诉你一件事。

And JB goes, let me tell you something.

他给我打电话，我告诉他，我觉得我要走了。

He calls me and I told him, I think I'm leaving.

他说，不，你不能走。

He goes, no, you're not.

我说，什么？

I said, what?

他说，让我告诉你一件事。

He goes, let me tell you something.

你以为自己懂很多网球吗？

You think you know a lot about tennis?

这 guy 对网球的了解，比你整个懂的还多。

This guy knows more about tennis on one finger than you know about tennis.

你不能离开他，因为我一直看着你，Larry，他真的能帮到你。

You're not leaving him because I've watched you, okay, and he can really help you, Larry.

所以你不能离开他，明白吗？

So you're not leaving him, okay?

而约翰是在我离开伯克利之后才出现的。

And John was the one that had this was after I left Berkeley.

那时我已经是个职业选手了，明白吗？

I was already a pro, okay?

我说，好吧，这就是我对约翰的信任程度。

And I said, okay, that's how much I trusted John.

我坚持和他在一起，Tom，那是我做过最棒的事，因为他教会了我大量我当时根本不懂的东西。

And it was the greatest thing I ever did sticking with him, Tom, because he taught me an awful lot that I didn't know at that time.

所以这就是为什么当我们谈到你之前问过的关于指导其他球员的问题时。

And so that's why when we talk about you had a question earlier about coaching another player.

我认为，如果他们想在马戏团里走穴，我真能帮上忙，让他们明白这需要付出什么。

I think you know, if they wanna go on the road in the in in the circus, I could really help them, and educate them what it's gonna take.

安迪不相信这管用。

Andy doesn't believe that that works.

我知道。

I know that.

而且，我也不认为这能100%奏效。

And, I don't believe it works a 100%.

我不确定。

I don't I don't know.

我的意思是，我们之所以能合作，是因为你不想经常旅行，而且我在家训练时你也不用盯着我。

Like, I I do I mean, we worked because you didn't wanna travel as much, but you also didn't have to babysit me to train when I was home.

没错。

That's right.

所以，我不确定我们在我18岁的时候会不会合得来。

Like, so I I don't know that we would have worked when I was 18.

塔里克那时候一直紧盯着我。

Like, Tariq was all over me all the time.

我觉得不同事情在不同时候会起不同的作用。

Like, so I I think I think different things work at different times.

那时候，我知道该怎么做事，也知道即使拉里不在，我也不会偷懒。

Like, I I was at that point, I knew how to work, and I knew I wasn't gonna skip because Larry wasn't there.

所以我觉得这样是有效的。

So I I think that that works.

肖恩，我们还有什么？

Sean, what else we got?

好的。

Alright.

我们有个来自奥菲莉亚的问题。

We got a question from Ophelia.

你之前提到从教练汤姆那里学到的东西，但我们现在要反过来谈。

You were talking about learning from your coach Tom, but we're gonna flip it.

所以奥菲莉亚问，回顾过去，你曾经指导过的一名球员教会了你关于成为一名好教练最重要的经验是什么？

So Ophelia asks, looking back, what's the most important lesson a player that you used to coach has taught you about what it means to be a good coach?

哦，很好的问题。

Oh, good good question.

我会向那些优秀的人提出很多问题。

I ask a lot of questions with with people that are great.

明白吗？

Okay?

就像我之前提到的约翰尼·麦克，我刚和他一起工作时，他的状态已经跌到了谷底。

And like I said earlier with Johnny Mac, when I first started with him, he had really fallen.

我的意思是，当时他在世界范围内的排名已经跌出前30名。

I mean, just inside 30, in the world.

为了让他重回巅峰，我看了大量的比赛录像，并不断提出一些观点。

And to get him back, I looked at a lot of films and I I would bring stuff up.

你知道，他的标准非常高。

And, you know, his standard was so high.

他说他从不怀念，拉里。

I don't he he would just say, I don't miss it, Larry.

看这个？

See this?

我每一球都打在这个位置，这就是他的标准。

I hit every ball right here, and that was his standard.

那一定很棒。

That's gotta be nice.

里奥斯也是这样。

It was and and Rios the same way.

他们每次都能打在拍面正中心，球速快得惊人。

They hit it in middle of the racket every single time, and the ball is ripping.

里奥斯和麦克属于不同的世代。

That was a different generation Rios from from Mac.

但在2019年他复出时，他在多伦多对阵了乔纳森·斯塔克。

But in '19 when he started coming back, he played Jonathan Stark in Toronto.

那是一场大师赛。

And it was a master series.

他赢下了第一轮。

And he had won his first round.

我觉得他赢了像伍德福德之类的人。

I think he beat someone like Woodford or so.

我都记不清是谁了。

I don't even remember who.

他又在第二轮对阵斯塔克，而斯塔克也是斯坦福的校友。

Again, he's playing second round against Stark and he's a fellow Stanford guy.

他以六比零、五比一领先。

He's up six zero five one.

不，是六比零、五比零，约翰尼对阵乔纳森·斯塔克。

No, six zero five zero, Johnny against Jonathan Stark.

他把对方打得毫无还手之力，明白吗？

He's just beating the lip and crap out of him, okay?

我认识乔纳森，而且当时我刚开始打大力发球。

And I knew Jonathan and Yeah, I was just starting as a big serve.

对，大力发球。

Yeah, big serve.

所以他就像这样接球，然后不断上网，而斯塔奇完全被压垮了。

And so he's just taking balls like this and coming in on everybody and and Starchy is just totally overwhelmed.

麦克的比分是15比30，他上网用反手截击，却打飞了，把球拍摔得粉碎。

And Mac has I think fifteen thirty, he comes in with a backhand volley and misses it long and smashes his racket in a million pieces.

好吧。

Okay.

不是。

No.

摔得粉碎。

In a million pieces.

我心里想，天哪。

And I'm thinking to myself, oh my god.

这家伙简直疯了。

This guy this guy's lost his flipping mind.

比赛结束后，我们在更衣室里，我走过去找他。

So after the match, we're in the locker room and I go up to him.

我说：嘿，约翰尼。

Said, hey, Johnny.

那到底是怎么回事？

What was that?

他问：你在说什么？

He goes, what are you talking about?

他说：你他妈的。

He go, well, you fuck.

你知道的，他是斯坦福的哥们。

You know, it's fellow Stanford guy.

我还以为，你知道的，你可能会以6比0赢他？

I thought maybe, you know, you're you're gonna beat him o and o?

好吧。

Okay.

他说：‘你在说什么？’

He goes, what are you talking about?

我说，他说：‘不。’

I said he said, no.

不。

No.

不。

No.

不。

No.

不。

No.

拉里，你不懂这个。

Larry, you don't understand this.