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BBC Sounds，音乐、广播和播客。

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

你好。

Hello.

欢迎收听《Shortcuts》播客。

Welcome to the podcast of Shortcuts.

今天的这期节目主题是大地，是一期关于如何度过寒冬、并在寒冬之后茁壮成长的务实分享。

Today's episode is about earth, a grounding episode about making it through whatever winter has to throw at us, and thriving on the other side.

这里是《Shortcuts》。

This is Shortcuts.

我的意思是，其实我不是在猜测，我是确信我们正走向一个没有冰川的世界。

I think I mean, it's not that I think I I know we're moving towards a world of of no glaciers.

短暂的相遇。

Brief encounters.

当然，还有黄花车前草。

Well, there's yellow rattle, of course.

树的故事

Tree stories.

我们有那种蓝色的，小小的蓝色蝴蝶。

We have the blue, the the small blue.

广播冒险

Radio adventures.

还有蓝色的蝴蝶。

There's blue butterflies.

蓝色的黏液。

The blue goo.

还有环境音。

And found sound.

有时候我们这里也会出现坎伯韦尔美丽蝶。

Sometimes we have the Camberwell beauty here as well.

今天。

Today.

我能一直停留在此刻的花园里吗？

Can I stay in this moment where the garden is right now?

不行。

You can't.

你必须在那一刻深深吸进这气息。

You have to breathe it in right then.

大地。

Earth.

我们听冰川融化的声音时，从理论上讲，听到的是一种未来可能永远消失的声音。

What we are listening when we listen to to the ice melting is basically, in theory, a sound that maybe in the future will become extinct.

很多人对我说：不可能。

And a lot of people said to me, no.

你会搬走的。

You're going to move away.

你一个人在这儿根本管不过来。

You can't manage all on your own out here.

但事实上，这个花园真的救了我。

But in fact, the garden has really saved me.

对农民和园丁来说，冬天刚开始是清理去年植物残余、为来年春天做准备的时候。

For farmers and gardeners, the beginning of winter is a time to clear the remnants of last year's plants and prepare for those to come in the spring.

这意味着修剪茎秆，留下根系自然分解并释放养分，铺上堆肥，再盖上稻草或覆盖物。

It means cutting back the stalks, leaving roots to decompose and release nutrients, spreading compost and laying straw or mulch.

这也是回顾整个夏天生长与变化的好机会，让花园好好休整一下。

It's a chance to take stock of all the growth and change of the summer, and give your garden a chance to rest.

对一位园丁来说，今年为花园过冬，也意味着告别了更多东西。

For one gardener, wintering the garden this year also meant saying goodbye to more than just her garden.

在准备搬离之际，她把房子和花园交给了一个曾经和她一起务农的密友。

As she prepares to move away, she passes along her home and her garden to a close friend with whom she used to work on a farm.

明白了。

Okay.

这是阳光最充足的一块地。

This is the sunniest plot.

好的。

Okay.

毫无疑问，这片地最晒。

Hands down, sunniest plot.

阳光一般是从这边照过来，最先照到这儿。

The sun kinda comes, like, from here and hits here first.

对。

Mhmm.

这边后头那条，阳光最少。

This backstrip, the least sunniest.

好的。

Okay.

太好了。

Great.

这片是我弄的，种了甜菜和胡萝卜，但没间苗，结果一团糟。

This was my mess, which is beets, carrots that I did not thin, and so Hot mess.

一团乱。

Mess.

这片本来打算种多年生植物，结果搞得一团糟。

Short Oh, and then this is a was meant to be a perennial area, but it's kind of been chaotic.

香葱长得出奇好。

The chives do super well.

明白了。

Okay.

香葱能完全再生长出来。

So the chives will grow back a 100%.

牛至也是。

Also, oregano will.

我刚来的时候，这儿什么都没有。

When I came here, this was nothing.

这儿就只有土。

There was dirt here.

后面那时候什么都没有。

There was nothing back there.

这儿原本是个破败的小菜园。

This was this broken down plot.

只有香葱一直留了下来。

The chives are the only thing that has stayed.

所以我才说它们不会死。

That's why I'm saying they will not die.

这些香葱会一直长到末日来临。

Those chives will be here till the zombie apocalypse.

这地方以前也不是我的，是我邻居以前种大蒜用的破园子。

And this wasn't even like, this was this broken down plot my neighbors had been growing garlic in.

我一开始只有两个小菜畦，第二年又加了后面那一排。

So I had two little plots, and then the next year, I added that back row.

别的我也想不起来了。

I don't know what else.

你要不要拿点这种芝麻菜？

Do you want any of this arugula?

你觉得吃起来会不好吃吗？

Do you think it would be bad?

尝一口吧。

Take a munch.

告诉我一声。

Let me know.

没关系。

It's okay.

值得留着吗？

Is it worth it?

还是直接堆肥算了？

Or should I just compost it?

我觉得还是堆肥吧。

I think I think just compost it.

好。

Okay.

你知道什么时候该放手很重要。

I think You gotta know when to let go.

该放手时就得放手。

Gotta know when to let go.

该放手时就得放手。

Gotta know when to let go

对于芝麻菜来说。

of arugula.

有时候芝麻菜就是

Sometimes arugula just

你得明白，事情结束了就该放手。

You gotta know when to let go of It's done.

你的家和你的花园。

Your home and your garden.

是的。

Yeah.

你对放手这件事感觉怎么样？

How are you feeling about letting go?

我？

Me?

我

I

我觉得你做得不错。

think you're doing pretty well.

对。

Yeah.

我

I

我也这么觉得。

think so.

你想啊，每年四月农场季刚开始的时候，我们最早一起做的工作之一就是播种。

If you think of like the beginning of a farm season in April, and when I mean, that's one of our like first tasks together was like seeding.

对。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

那你当时种的是什么？

And you're putting what is this?

迪诺羽衣甘蓝？

Dino kale?

拉卡纳托品种。

Lacinato.

我能想象出拉卡纳托羽衣甘蓝的种子是什么样子。

I could picture a Lacinato kale seed.

就是那么小小一粒，然后浇上水，看着它慢慢长大。

Like this tiny thing, and then you water it, and you watch it grow.

有时候，这种变化几乎会失去它原有的震撼感。

And then sometimes, it can almost like lose its majesty, the change.

因为你不再只是惊叹地说：‘哇哦。’

Because you're not just like, woah.

天哪。

Oh my god.

这东西竟然长成了这样。

This thing has grown.

但我觉得，慢慢观察这些细微的变化，是我从事植物工作最喜爱的事情之一。

But I think watching that like subtlety over time is, like, one of my absolute favorite things about, like, working with plants and working Yeah.

在务农和园艺中都是如此。

In farming and gardening.

我觉得，这就是我自己的改变方式。

And I think that's how I change.

我想，这大概也是你改变的方式。

And I think it seems like that's how you change.

就像是慢慢悄悄发生的。

It's like it happened so slowly.

对。

Yeah.

我注意到这点的时候，并不觉得意外。

Like, don't think I was surprised by noticing that.

就像你不会突然对地里冒出一丛羽衣甘蓝感到惊讶，对吧？因为你明明知道那是你种下的。

Just like you're not surprised when suddenly there's suddenly there's kale Yeah.

那可是你亲手种下的东西。

Instead of just like dirt, you know, because you you you put it there.

这其中付出了很多努力。

And there's so much effort.

确实付出了很多努力。

And there's so much effort.

还有阳光。

And like The sun.

我们常常没意识到，真正推动改变的，是那些默默付出的努力。

Something I think we often don't give ourselves enough credit for is the effort that goes change.

改变

Change

改变不是突然发生的，不是搬个地方就啪一下，人就变了。

doesn't just happen, and we don't just like move cities and then boom, we've changed.

我觉得，这些年我们一直悄悄看着彼此成长。

I also feel like we've watched each other grow subtly for the time we've known each other.

对。

Mhmm.

我走你留，不代表谁改变得更多或更少。

Just because I'm going and you're staying doesn't mean I'll change more or less.

但我真的很期待，能见证你的变化。

But I'm, like, excited to marvel at your change.

每次我回来，都忍不住想用眼睛把这一刻定格下来，心里说：能不能就停在这儿，让这个花园永远保持现在这样？

There's times I've come back here, and I almost, like, try to take a little picture with my mind and say, like, can I stay in this moment where the garden is right now?

你做不到。

And you can't.

你必须当时就好好感受。

You have to breathe it in right then.

是的。

Yeah.

就像大自然不会停滞不前一样。

Just like, you know, nature doesn't stay stagnant.

对。

Yeah.

我们也不该停滞。

We're not supposed to either.

这个花园会一直不停地变化。

This garden is gonna keep changing and changing and changing.

就算每年都有自发长出来的薄荷和千日红，那也是正常的。

And, like, even if things pop up year after year, you know, even if there's volunteer mint and volunteer strawflower and Yeah.

那些能越冬的草莓，比如说。

Strawberries that are gonna overwinter, like,

看起来会不一样。

it's gonna look different.

看起来会不一样。

It's gonna look different.

这没关系。

That's okay.

你对这块草皮感觉怎么样？

How are you feeling about this grass patch?

那是香葱。

That's the chives.

哦。

Oh.

天哪。

Oh my god.

它们长得太茂盛了。

They're so overgrown.

是吗？

Are they?

不是。

No.

不是这样的。

They're No.

不过修剪一下确实比较好。

It is good to cut them back though.

好的。

Okay.

我们要不要修剪一下？

Should we cut them back?

对。

Yeah.

这些香葱真是怎么都死不了。

This is the this is the chives that will never die.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得确实该剪一剪。

I do think it's good to to cut them back.

天开始变冷了，老兄。

It's getting cold, dude.

天真的变冷了。

It's getting cold.

冬天来了。

Winter.

它正

It's

差别可大了。

really different.

看起来真的不一样了。

It looks really different.

总觉得有点说不上来。

It's always a little I don't know.

我很喜欢冬天打理花园的感觉——收拾掉一片繁茂，让土地好好休息一阵。

I love the activity of of wintering the garden and pulling back all the abundance and letting it rest for a little bit.

我觉得，看到花园不在最美状态的时候，反而挺有意思的。

I think there's something really fun about seeing a garden when it's not, like, in its beautiful stage.

是的。

Yeah.

你

You

明白吗？

know?

就像看到那样，

Like, seeing that, like,

一年中的某些时候，它确实很漂亮。

it can be beautiful at certain times of the year.

但在其他时候，可能看起来没什么特别的。

And then it could also just look like not a whole lot at other times

一年中的其他时候，但

of the year, but

它依然有能力重新焕发出美丽的模样。

it still has the ability to to to fluctuate back into its beautiful form.

是的。

Yeah.

只需要花点心思打理。

Just takes a little bit of work.

得花点时间和精力。

Take a little a little bit of work and some time.

是的。

Yeah.

不过我觉得咱们先铺上堆肥，再盖一层稻草就行了。

But I think maybe we just lay the compost and then lay the straw.

就这么简单。

And that's it.

好的。

Okay.

你觉得呢？

Do you think?

对。

Mhmm.

现在几点了？

What time is it?

现在是

It is

太阳时间是3点52分。

The sun is 03:52.

这是由朱尔斯·布拉德利制作的，她是一位音频制作人，也是一名农民。

That was made for us by Jules Bradley, an audio producer and farmer.

这是她第一次同时做这两件事。

And this is the first time she's done both of those things at the same time.

你得用千年、万年，甚至十万年的尺度来思考。

You have to think in time frames of thousands of years, of tens of thousands of years, of hundreds of thousands of years.

我们人类通常只能想到几年、几十年，最多到一个世纪。

We, as humans can basically think in the order of years, decades, eventually a century.

一旦你开始想得超过一个世纪，就会不由自主地感到头晕。

Once you start thinking beyond a century, then you inevitably start kind of feeling dizzy.

或者觉得发冷，之类的。

Feeling cold or something.

不是吗？

No?

如果我们去南极洲采样，然后分析这些样本，就像在读一本书。

If we go to Antarctica, we take samples and then we analyze those samples, then it's like reading a book.

我们分析的每一层冰芯，都记录着地球气候变迁的故事。

Each each of the pages, each of the layers that we can analyze in the in the ice, it brings information about the story of the of the climate in the planet.

我们做的这件事，就像是在乘坐一台时光机。

What we're doing is going on a like a time machine.

目前从南极获取的最长气候记录，可以追溯到80万年前。

So the longest record that has been retried so far from Antarctica, it goes back 800,000 years.

那是一根非常深的冰芯样本。

And it's a it's a very deep ice core.

钻探深度超过了三公里。

It it was drilled to beyond three kilometers.

靠近基岩的冰层被压得极紧，一米厚的冰里可能藏着两万年的气候信息。

Near the interface with the with the bedrock, the ice is so compressed that eventually in a meter of ice you can have twenty thousand years.

从野外取回的冰样是圆柱形的，根据不同的分析需求，我们会把冰切成不同形状。

Ice that we get from the field, we get them as cylinders of ice, and then for depending on the kind of analysis that we perform, we cut the ice in in different shapes.

我刚把冰样放上去，这台设备是我们英国南极调查局自己研发的，它通过一个相对温暖的融冰板，一层一层地把冰融化。

I just loaded the ice, and what we have here is this device that we have created here at the British Antarctic Survey, which melts the ice at its contact between relatively warm melt plate, and when it touches the ice, melts the ice layer by layer.

通过分析气泡中的二氧化碳，再结合对水分子的研究，我们能够确认大气中温室气体、特别是二氧化碳的浓度与全球气温之间存在直接关联。

By analyzing the CO2 in the bubbles and then by analyzing the water molecule, we're able to reconstruct that there is a direct link between the amount of greenhouse gases, the amount of carbon dioxide, CO2, that we are inputting into the atmosphere and the temperature reaction that we will get.

我们知道已经向大气中排放了大量二氧化碳，但气温还在慢慢跟上这个变化。

We know that we have inputted a lot of CO two, but then the temperatures are trying to catch up.

根据这些自然规律，我们基本上可以预测或提前判断未来会发生什么。

Basically, because of these rules of the game, are able to sort of forecast or anticipate what will happen.

我们现在排放的二氧化碳非常多，气温也因此持续上升。

We are inputting a lot of CO two, and the temperatures are coming up.

不过，由于这个温室效应的循环机制，我们清楚这些温室气体在大气中产生的整体影响。

But then, because of this green cycle, we know the effect of all of those greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

温度上升的速度在不同阶段会有所波动。

Who varies on there how the temperature is Dabiting up.

我们正在尝试追踪这个循环中每一个环节的变化。

Trying to check what can be tracked throughout this cycle.

当然，过去八十万年来气候本就有自然波动，但最近几十年，人类排放的二氧化碳已经远远超出了过去八十万年内的任何水平，带来的后果是灾难性的。

Of course, over the last eight hundred thousand years as a natural variability, but more recently, we can track that with our input of CO2 as a society way beyond the limits of what we have seen over the last eight hundred thousand years and that having devastating effects.

我说这个，其实也不是我觉得，我是真的知道。

I think, I mean, it's not that I think.

我知道，我们正朝着一个没有冰川的世界走去。

I I know we're moving towards a world of of no glaciers.

我甚至都不确定我们是不是还来得及。

I don't even know if we if we still have time.

我们希望还来得及，但也可能已经太晚了。

We hope we have time, but it it could be that it's too late.

当我们听到冰川融化的声音时，从理论上讲，这种声音在未来可能会彻底消失。

What we are listening when we listen to to the ice melting is basically, in theory, a sound that maybe in the future will become extinct.

如果我们继续这样下去，气温不断升高，更多地燃烧化石燃料，总有一天，地球上的最后一块冰也会融化，而那时，这种声音也将最后一次被听见。

So then if we keep going as we are going with increasing temperatures, burning more fossil fuels, eventually there will be a time in the planet where we we will melt the last bit of ice in the planet and then that will be the last time that that sound is heard.

这是过去的声音。

It's the sound of the past.

这段音频《Melt Tones》由Anton Spice创作，特邀英国南极调查局的冰芯科学家迪特尔·泰茨纳博士参与。

That was Melt Tones by Anton Spice, and it featured Dr Dieter Tetzner, who's an ice core scientist in ice dynamics and paleoclimate at the British Antarctic Survey.

所有的声音都是安东在英国南极调查局剑桥的冰芯实验室录制的，大部分是在零下25摄氏度的冷室里录的。

All of the sounds were recorded by Anton at the British Antarctic Survey's ice core laboratory in Cambridge, mostly in the cold room, which is kept at minus 25 degrees Celsius.

一想到我们正面对的气候崩溃有多大规模、多快、多严重，我就觉得完全无法承受。

Thinking about the size and the speed and the scale of climate collapse that we're facing is utterly overwhelming to me.

最近我听说，从地质时间尺度来看，人类文明存在的时间还太短，不足以被称为一个纪元。

And I was told recently that civilization, in kind of more geological time terms, has not been around long enough to be called an era.

它更像是一次事件。

It would be classified as an event.

我觉得人类文明就是地球上一次孤立的灾难性事件。

I think of human civilization as a singular catastrophic event on the planet.

目前我正在写一个单口喜剧，讲的是史前灭绝的大型哺乳动物。

And at the moment, I'm writing a stand up show about prehistoric extinct charismatic megafauna.

不是恐龙，我可不这么俗气。

Not dinosaurs, I'm not basic.

我说的是那些体型庞大、长相奇特的哺乳动物。

I'm talking big, strange mammals.

特别是，我想到了一万年、两万年、三万年前，那时候的人类，从进化角度看和你我完全一样，生活在一片我们几乎无法想象的土地上，那里到处都是巨大的掠食者、怪兽，还有数百万年前遗留下来的生物残迹。

And in particular, I'm interested in ten thousand, twenty thousand, thirty thousand years ago, when human beings, exactly the same as you or I in evolutionary terms, were living in a landscape we can barely imagine, full of gigantic predators and beasts and evolutionary hangovers from millions of years ago.

而他们经历了极端的气候变化。

And they lived through extreme climate change.

每当我想到我们如今面临的困境——这种前所未有的规模和恐怖感，再想想我们的祖先，他们居然能在那样严酷恶劣的环境中活下来，才让我们今天得以存在，这反而成了我心中的一丝希望。

And when I think about what we're up against, the unprecedented nature of it, the scale of it, the terror, thinking about our ancestors, the fact that they survived in such a harsh, difficult landscape for us to be here is one of the things that gives me hope.

1973年，苏·特罗尔和她的丈夫拉尔斯在丹麦博恩霍尔姆岛上买下了一栋小房子。

In 1973, Sue Trolle and her husband Lars bought a little house on the Danish island of Bornholm.

广播制作人里克·霍德专程去那里见了她。

Radio producer Rikke Houd went to meet her there.

我现在就在这栋老农舍里，屋里堆满了杂物、照片和书籍。

I'm in the house, the old farmhouse, which with a lot of mess and pictures and books.

这地方我已经住了五十年了。

And, yeah, this has been my home for fifty years.

这房子住得很有生活气息，我觉得这么说挺贴切的。

It's a very lived in house, I think you could call it.

我们刚买下这房子的时候，还能看到它被田野包围着，但现在根本看不到了，到处都是树和植物。

When we bought it, you could see the house surrounded by fields, but now, of course, you can't really see the house because there's so many trees and things.

不过在这片花园里，植物倒是很少让路给其他东西。

But the plants rarely have right of way in this in this garden.

有时候我感觉自己倒像个外人。

I sometimes feel very much like the visitor.

你看，这房子就像田野中间的一个小岛，周围的田地都用传统方式耕作，喷药、施肥，简直像是两个截然不同的世界。

You can see it's like a little island in the middle of the fields, which are cultivated in the traditional way where they're sprayed and they're fertilized and and Two different worlds in a way.

我想这就是为什么夏天和春天，我的花园里有这么多鸟，它们飞过那些田地，就会落进我的花园，尤其是候鸟，白天在这儿歇脚，找点虫子吃，到了傍晚或者第二天再继续上路。

I think this is why I have so many birds in the garden in the summer and the spring because they fly over the fields and come into the garden, and especially migrating birds, they sort of rest for the day and find insects and what have you, and then they go on in the evening or the next day.

现在这花园都快长到房子跟前了。

It's encroaching on the house, the garden at the moment.

我们要不要开门，去花园里走走？

Should we open the door and walk into your garden?

好啊，走吧。

Let's do that.

这是庭院。

This is the courtyard.

以前这儿光秃秃的，连一棵植物都没有，现在呢，到处都是植物和花盆，各种东西混在一起，特别丰富。

Originally, it was totally free of plants, And now it's just full of plants and pots, and there's a good old mixture of everything.

慢慢地，庭院越来越小了。

Gradually, the courtyard is getting smaller and smaller.

最后估计就剩一张桌子，咱们能坐那儿。

So in the end, there'll just be one table there where we can sit.

下了一点雪，灌木上盖着雪，四周静悄悄的，一点风都没有，挺舒服的。

It snowed a bit, so there's snow on the bushes and it's very still, there's no wind, which is nice.

还有几株植物在开花，但大多数都快枯萎了，毕竟到了秋冬季节，这会儿就像乌鸦回窝歇着了。

And there are a few plants still flowering, but most of them are dying down now because of the winter and the autumn, so It's a crow going to bed.

你听得到吗？

Can you hear it?

是吗？

Yeah?

是的

Yeah.

我们后院还有乌鸦。

And we also have ravens in the back garden.

它们每天早上都叫个不停。

They also chat away in the mornings.

我觉得我们得往这边走。

I think we have to go this way.

我注意到了。

I've noticed it.

你闻到了吗？

Can you smell it?

对

Mhmm.

这儿有一些牛至灌木。

There's some hyssop bushes here.

我想大概就是这个原因。

I think that's probably what it is.

有点像穿过一条隧道。

A bit like going through a tunnel.

是树。

Trees.

哦，是树。

Oh, trees.

是的。

Yeah.

我们是1973年买下这栋房子的。

So and we bought the house in 1973.

我们刚来的时候，这里什么都没有。

There was nothing here when we came.

那时候连一棵树都没有。

And there were no trees or anything.

那时候连个遮蔽的地方都没有。

There was no shelter either.

我们种了很多树。

We planted a lot of trees.

我丈夫是昆虫学家，对昆虫特别着迷。

As in my my husband was an entomologist, so he's very interested in insects.

他是叶蝉方面的专家。

An expert in leafhoppers.

他特别喜欢种那些能吸引昆虫、甲虫和蝴蝶的植物。

He was very keen on growing plants that attracted insects and beetles and butterflies.

那边是大海。

There's the ocean.

你能听到吗？

You can hear it?

现在这是邻居在开枪。

Now this now it's the neighbor he's shooting.

哦。

Oh.

我不太确定他现在在打什么，不过确实如此。

I'm not quite sure what he's shooting at this time, but yeah.

所以夏天我们坐在这里，看着大海和花朵。

And so we sit out here in the summer and look at the sea and the flowers.

这是个不错的地方。

It's a nice place.

他得了癌症，还有骨髓癌，后来去世了。

He got cancer and bone marrow cancer and died.

现在已经快十七年了。

Now it's almost seventeen years ago.

很多人都对我说，你肯定会搬走的。

And a lot of people said to me, no, you're going to move away.

你一个人在这儿根本没法应付。

You can't manage all on your own out here.

但事实上，这个花园真的救了我。

But in fact, the garden has really saved me.

如果你遇到烦心事，出来这儿，把手插进土里，会感觉好多了。

It's good to come out here if you've got problems or what have you, and just get your fingers into the soil.

它还教会我放慢脚步，因为植物长得慢，你种下一棵树，得好几年才看得出是棵树的样子。

It's taught me also to take things slowly, because plants grow slowly, and if you plant a tree, it takes several years before it begins to look like a tree.

所以它让我学会了耐心，也让我学会了包容。

So it's taught me to be patient and it's taught me to be tolerant as well.

比如，菜粉蝶把我的卷心菜吃光了，我也不太在意，毕竟蝴蝶也很美。

I mean, I don't really mind if a cabbage butterfly eats all my cabbage, because I think the butterfly is also beautiful.

你得学会和眼前的一切相处，接受它们也有权利在这里生活。

So, you know, you learn to live with what's there and accept that they have a right to live here as well.

昆虫、野兔、狍子，还有其他来花园里的生物，都有它们的空间。

There's room for insects and hares and roe deer and all the other things that come into the garden.

这儿还有好多老鼠，田鼠和一种叫headsponsmoose的，英文名我记不清了，但那种小鼠特别漂亮。

There are also mice, a lot of mice, field mice and headsponsmoose, I can't remember what it's called in English, it's a very pretty mouse.

我们这儿鸟也特别多，各种各样的，比如蓝山雀、黑鸟、绿金翅雀，还有啄木鸟、交嘴雀，它们时来时走；冬天的时候，红腹灰雀、朱顶雀也会来。

We get a lot of birds as well, different birds coming in, blue tits, and the blackbirds, and the green finches, and woodpeckers also, crossbills, they come and they go, bullfinches, hawfinches, they come as well in the winter.

草也长得很茂盛，还有黄蜂，其实它们特别有用。

And there are also a lot of grasses, and also wasps, they're actually very useful.

它们也完全有权利待在这儿。

They're allowed to be there as well.

还有食蚜蝇和大黄蜂，当然少不了它们。

Hoverflies and bumblebees, of course.

甲虫、小黄花、野荠菜、小铃铛花、野生的金鱼草、白雏菊，还有矢车菊也都长得很漂亮。

Beetles, small yellow flowers, snapweeds, and small bell flowers, the wild snapdragons, white daisies, and cornflowers also.

这些都特别棒。

They're super.

当然还有黄花岩草。

Well, there's yellow rattle, of course.

我们这儿有蓝灰蝶、小蓝蝶，还有好几种蓝色的蝴蝶，比如埃塞克斯弄蝶、玳瑁蝶、红襟粉蝶、孔雀蝶。

We have the blue, the small blue, and we have various blue butterflies, the blue group, the Essex skipper, tortoiseshells, and red admirals, peacocks.

有时候我们这里还会来一只坎伯韦尔美丽蝶，每次它们出现，都让人特别开心。

Sometimes we have the Camberwell beauty here as well, and they come, and it's always a pleasure to have them in the garden.

还有刺猬，运气好的时候，我能在花园里碰到一只。

So, and hedgehogs, sometimes, if I'm lucky, I find a hedgehog in the garden.

不过我这儿刺猬不多，因为花园四周都是田野，它们很难进来。

But I don't have so many here, because the garden is surrounded by fields, so it's difficult for them to come in.

他在拍什么呢？

I wonder what he's shooting.

这儿有点东西。

There's something here.

有只平展的鸟。

There's a flat bird.

是的。

Yeah.

鸟很多，现在都准备休息了。

There are a lot of birds, and they're going to bed now.

我其实不太确定那是什么鸟。

I'm not quite sure what that one is, actually.

这里还有很多野鸡。

So and there are also a lot of pheasant here.

它们到了晚上或者傍晚要休息的时候，就开始叫个不停。

They also start chatting at night, so, or in the evening when they're going to bed.

是的。

Yeah.

咱们趁还能看清路，赶紧往回走吧。

Maybe we should turn around whilst we can still see where we're walking.

黑鸟在追你呢。

The blackbirds trying to catch you.

里克说，我最初想到这个主意，是希望创造一些宽广、包容、不排他的空间。

Rikke told us, my first initiative to do this was the thought about spaces that are generous and unafraid and not excluding.

这也像是一种隐喻，提醒人们重视那些野生而宁静的花园。

Also, as a metaphor for what is happening in many places, to remind of the importance of wild patient gardens.

她还告诉我们，苏说，很多热爱生活的人之所以能长寿，是因为他们总在期盼春天的到来。

She also told us that Sue says, many people who love grow to be old because they always look forward to spring.

这事儿我经常在想。

And it's something I think about often.

你可以把花都剪光，但拦不住春天如期而至。

You can cut all the flowers, but you cannot keep spring from coming.

感谢收听《捷径》。

Thank you for listening to Shortcuts.

希望你们今天听得很开心。

I really hope you enjoyed today's program.

如果喜欢我们的节目，也可以去看看 Falling Tree 制作的其他内容。

Also, if you loved our show, you can look at other programs that Falling Tree have made.

比如那部很棒的纪录片《熄灯》，在任何你常用的播客平台都能找到。

For example, the wonderful Lights Out documentary series, which is on any kind of podcast app you like.

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我们非常享受为你们制作这个节目的过程。

We have loved making it for you.