西蒙·佩吉

账单来了，艾米看着我说，我们搞定这个。我说，我们…我们搞定这个。大概3000英镑吧。可能是一顿昂贵的晚餐。她却说，不。

The check comes, and Amy looks at me and goes, we got this. And I go, we we got this. It's like £3,000. Might use an expensive dinner. She's like, no.

不，不，我们付了。于是我们坐出租车回酒店的路上，我说，他搞定你了。他说服你买了单。

No. No. We got it. So we're in the cab on the way back to the hotel, I go, he got you. He convinced you to pick up the check.

然后她看着我说，你觉得呢？我回答，妈的，当然。

And then she looked at me and she goes, do you think? And I go, fuck, yeah.

是啊。那就太棒了

Yeah. Would be great

如果她让你转身然后

if she turned you and

说，等等，我付了

said, wait, I paid for

账单。西蒙，我跟你提过这事吗？没有。我不知道这事。

the check. Did I ever tell you that, Simon? No. I didn't know that.

是啊。太神奇了。我觉得和达伦相处很怪，你知道，因为你总担心他可能会对你的思维做出什么奇怪的事。

Yeah. That's amazing. I find it he's he's weird to be around Darren, you know, because you you're constantly worried that he might do something strange to your mind.

是啊。所以西蒙，就执行力和制作规模而言，你在《星际迷航》还是《碟中谍》片场更感到震惊？

Yeah. So, Simon, your your level of astonishment is greater on the sets of Star Trek or Mission Impossible as far as execution, scope of production?

可能是《碟中谍》。对。因为汤姆·克鲁斯做的那些事，你知道，我们亲眼目睹他当天骑着摩托车跳崖之类的。

Probably Mission Impossible. Yeah. Right. Just because of the stuff that Tom Cruise does, you know, that we are we we are witness to on the day of him jumping off a cliff on a motorbike or whatever.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

我是说，那确实有点真的让人毛骨悚然。

I mean, that just sort of it is genuinely terrifying.

没错。还有你的特技团队、安全团队和第二摄制组等等，那些人简直得像火箭科学家一样厉害。

Right. And your stunt crew and safety crew and second unit, all that stuff, that just must be like rocket scientists.

对。我们拍摄摩托车特技时——就是《碟中谍6：全面瓦解》里的那段——动用了上百台摄像机。有个镜头是他骑车时车上装了摄像头，当他跳车后，摩托车翻滚着离开，每次旋转都能拍到他。然后工作人员得下到采石场底部找回摩托车，取回摄像头，看看哪些还能用。果然，他们得到了他向上腾空而摩托车疯狂翻滚的惊人画面。

Yeah. Hundreds of, you know, cameras on on When when we did the bike stunt, which is in Mission Impossible Dead Wrecking part one, we had there was a a take he did where there were cameras mounted on the bike he was riding. So when he jumped off it, the bike just sort of cartwheeled away and caught him every time it span. And then they had to go down into the to the bottom of this this quarry and find the bike and retrieve the cameras and find which ones were still working. And sure enough, they picked up this incredible footage of him just sort of, like, disappearing upwards as the bike It's crazy.

顺便说一句。

By the way.

这些电影每个部门的难度系数都

It's so degree of difficulty on all departments of those movies is

简直离谱。太疯狂了。对了，我昨天刚发现自己居然有个第二摄制组。

just insane. So crazy. By the way, you know, just found yesterday that I've actually got a second unit.

哦，不错

Oh, good

啊。

for you.

是啊，你刚发现的这个超级迷你。

Yeah. So it was super tiny you just discovered.

但这很重要。但这很重要。

But it counts. But it counts.

等等，听我说。我想聊聊《碟中谍3》那时候，JJ突然给你打电话。JJ·艾布拉姆斯就这么突然联系你

So wait, listen. I wanna talk about so when so Mission Impossible three, JJ just called you out of the blue. JJ Abrams just called you

突然

out of the

打来的对吧？因为《僵尸肖恩》的关系是吗？

blue and off to your He did. Because of Shaun of the Dead, right?

因为肖恩那部片子。当时我和埃德加正在写《热血警探》，电话响了，是JJ·艾布拉姆斯。他直接就说，嘿，你想来参演《碟中谍3》吗？我说，好啊，没问题。

Because of Shaunie. Me and Edgar were writing Hot Fuzz, the phone rang, and it was JJ Abrams. And he just sort of literally said, hey, do you want to come and be in Mission of the Bustle three? And I said, yeah, okay.

求之不得。

Yes, please.

对啊，行啊。何乐不为？我当时完全没想到。

Yeah, okay. Why not? And I didn't know.

让我说完。我正在朋友家。让我把话说完。

Let me finish. I'm just at my mate. Let me finish.

《星际迷航》那次也差不多，他发邮件问我，想不想演斯科特？我猜他是懒得再找人了，直接想，就找上次合作过的那家伙吧。哇哦。

I was kind in the same in the same way he emailed me about Star Trek and just said, do you wanna play Scotty? I think he got bored of of looking for someone and just thought, I get that other guy that I got last time. Wow.

我是说，能参与两个风格迥异的大型标志性系列作品确实很罕见。

I mean, it it is unusual to be part it is unusual to be part of two such big kind of iconic franchises that are very different.

除非你是哈里森·福特。除非你是哈里森·福特。

Unless you're Harrison Ford. Unless you're Harrison Ford.

没错。

That's right.

是啊。哈里森·福特就是

Yeah. Harrison Ford is the

王者。

king.

你是英国版的哈里森·福特。我以前听过这种说法。

You're the British Harrison Ford. I've heard that before.

谢谢。

Thank you.

你最大的遗憾是不是雇了贝特曼来演保罗？

Would you say your biggest regret was hiring was hiring Bateman for Paul?

那确实是个巨大的遗憾。

That was a huge regret.

咱们来聊聊保罗吧。

Let's get to Paul.

前几天我听海德在播客里聊那些墨西哥辣椒酒，那天你不在场。当时我、尼克和海德喝了掺辣椒汁的龙舌兰酒，结果第二天我们喷火了。天啊，真庆幸你不在，不然你的屁股可要遭殃了。

I was listening to Hayder the other day on the on the podcast talking about those jalapeno shooters, and you weren't there that day. It was me, Nick, and Hayder, and they gave us these tequila shots with jalapeno juice, and we shot lava the next day. Oh my god. I'm glad you weren't there for your sake of your bottom.

他不记得昨天在哪了，这倒是好消息。但你可记得。

He doesn't remember where he was yesterday, so that's the good news. But you Do

还记得我们在年度说唱礼物会上送你《少狼》双面海报吗？我记得。我们都签了名。

you remember when we gave you a Teen Wolf two poster at the annual rap gift? I do. We all signed it.

我确实记得。当时特别感动。

I do remember that. I was very warmed by that.

海报呢？放哪儿了，我

Where is it? Where is it, I

卖掉了。裱起来？对啊。

sold that. Bind? Yeah.

等等。扔了。直接扔了。杰伊，快去把它裱起来。

Wait. Binned. Binned. Immediately binned. Jay, get that framed.

这也太无礼了吧。不行。

That how unbelievably rude. No.

我记得本来就是带框的。

I think it came framed.

可能吧。当时是带框的。

Maybe. It was framed.

是啊。但后来你拆了框。你明明告诉过我你拆了框。

Yeah. But then you unframed it. I thought you told me you unframed it.

就是你要把它卖得更容易些。

It's you just sell it easier.

用那个14岁的其他东西。对。

Use the 14 year old something else. Yeah.

等等，我想倒回去说。在2009年2月，你完成了你书呆子三部曲的第二部，这确实是个真实存在的东西——嗯哼，就是《星际迷航》。谁帮你练习的苏格兰口音？

Wait. I wanna go back. So in 02/2009, you completed the second installment of your nerd trifecta, which again is a real thing Mhmm. With star Star Trek. Who helped you with your Scottish accent?

很难吗？你家族里有苏格兰人吗？

Was it hard? Like, do you have Scotts in your family?

是啊，我娶了个格拉斯哥的苏格兰姑娘。所以她爸爸帮了

Yeah. I'm married to a Scott and a Glaswegian. So she her dad helped

我很多。肖恩也娶了个苏格兰人。

me a lot. Sean's married to a Scott too.

没错，这就说得通了。不错啊伙计。

Yeah. There you go. Nice, mate.

太棒了。我确实从家人那里得到了帮助，因为他们是最先...虽然他们总想让我在台词里加些粗俗的苏格兰脏话。我确实试过几句，但JJ过来对我说：西蒙，观众得听懂你在说什么。所以最后只保留了

Lovely. Lovely. I got help from the family on that because they're the first people to, although they kept trying to make me put, like, tawdry little Scottish rudeness into the script. I did actually try a few things, but JJ came up to me and said, Simon, they've got to understand what you're saying. Hear just a little

一点点你能想到的最下流的苏格兰话。

bit of the rudest thing you could say since Scottish.

其实我说过一句著名的格拉斯哥谚语——"滚你妈的"（Getty fuck）。就像代替"闭嘴"或"滚开"的话。在首部《星际迷航》里，我真的对扮演我小跟班的迪普·罗伊说了句"接这个"（get this）。懂苏格兰话的人立刻就会明白我真正想说的是什么。哦，太疯狂了。

I do actually say there's a famous Scottish Glaswegian saying, which is, Getty fuck. If you're instead of, like, you know, shut up or get out of it, it's Getty fuck. And in the first Star Trek, I do actually say to Deep Roy, who plays my little wingman, you hear me go, get this. And I don't so anyone who's Scottish would know exactly what I was about. Oh, that's crazy.

太棒了。哦，哇，这太疯狂了。然后你居然在六个月内就完成了一部剧本。

That's great. Oh, wow. That's crazy. And then you got to write one, like, in six months.

是啊。那是

Yeah. That was

你是怎么争取到写作机会的？

How did you get to write?

那是

That was

就像有人把一辆极其昂贵的车钥匙交给你。那是我做过最艰难的事，因为我们根本没有时间。导演林诣彬是个绝顶聪明的人，但他不擅长语言沟通。一开始真的很难理解他想要什么。他习惯拖着我——

like someone giving you the keys to a really, really expensive car. It was it was the hardest thing I've ever done just because we had no time. And Justin Lin, who was the director, who's a brilliant, brilliant guy, but he's not a verbal communicator. And it was really hard to understand what he wanted at first. Like, used to drag

为了让观众明白，这是《星际迷航3：超越星辰》。

me And just into so people know, it's Star Trek Beyond.

抱歉。抱歉。

Sorry. Sorry.

《星际迷航3：超越星辰》。对。我和道格·荣一起写的剧本，过程非常有趣。道格来英国和我同住，我们白天写作，

Star Trek Beyond. Yeah. Yeah. And myself and Doug Jung, we wrote that script together, but it was loads of fun. And Doug came to stay with me in The UK, and we'd we'd write during the day.

晚上就看原版剧集，想找些彩蛋加进去。后来居然第一次遇到别人要重写我的剧本，太荒谬了。我们那么努力，制片人林赛却说要找新人来修改，我当时就炸了——

And then at night, we'd watch episodes of the original series just to try and get little Easter eggs to put in, and we eventually ended up I you know, weirdly, was the first time I'd faced the idea of being rewritten by someone else. That's wild. You know, we worked really hard on it. And then our producer, Lindsay, called and said, we're gonna get some fresh eyes on the script. And I was like, what the fuck?

从没经历过这种事。我气得要命，心想你们怎么敢？要知道我来自安逸的英国电影圈。嗯哼。

Like, I'd never experienced that before. And I I was so incensed and angry that, how dare you? Right. I come from my cushy little British filmmaking background. Uh-huh.

嗯，肖恩，肖恩的妈妈以前大概每两个月就会换一副新眼镜。对吧？是这样吗？

Well, Sean, Sean's mom used to get fresh eyes about every two months. Right? Is that right?

所以我们当时的做法是，贾斯汀·林会把修改稿发给我们，然后道格和我偷偷重写一遍，再发回给贾斯汀，最后由贾斯汀以他的意见名义提交给派拉蒙。我们就这样暗中改写了改写稿。派拉蒙的各位如果正在听这段——反正最终效果还不错

So what we did was we'd get Justin Lin would send us the rewrites, and then Doug and I would secretly rewrite them, and then send them back to Justin, and then Justin would deliver them to Paramount as his notes. So we would secretly rewrite the rewrites. If you're listening to this Paramount, then it all worked out okay

在

in the

最后，当然。这他妈太棒了。多好的钻系统空子方法啊。

end, sure. That's fucking great. What a great way to rig the system in your favor.

是啊，所以我才......我就是没法

Yeah, that's why. I just can't

相信《保罗》那部戏你们有被要求修改吗？

believe Did you get rewritten at all on Paul?

没有。没有？所以成片效果很明显。

No. No? And it shows.

不。不，那个洛伦佐

No. No, the Lorenzo

没改过。我们很幸运。

No, we didn't. We were lucky.

洛伦佐油是什么？

What was the Lorenzoil?

洛伦佐·佐伊尔。那是你的洛伦佐，我们想出了你的角色名，那天我们休息了一天。那是最深的梗。

Lorenzo Zoil. That was your Lorenzo we came up with your character name, we took the day off. It was the deepest cut.

今天的精彩程度已经足够了。

That's enough brilliance for the day.

这是尼克的主意，《洛伦佐的油》。

It was Nick's idea, Lorenzo's Oil.

好吧。那我该怎么揭露这一点？比如，我不是至少在电影快结束的时候吗？对吧？比如在太空船下面之类的？

Alright. And then how do I how do I reveal that? Like, aren't I being at least near the end of the movie. Right? Like, under the spaceship or something?

你对那个的反应，我不是说我不是在说，你对那个的反应是我在任何喜剧场合中见过的最极致的喜剧双关之一。

Your reaction to that, I'm not saying I'm not just saying that your reaction to that is one of the most supreme comedy double takes I have ever witnessed in any any comedy forum.

嗯，不是因为那个笑话，而是那是我第一次真正听到它被说出来？我当时就想，哦，该死。

Well, it was wasn't the joke that, like, it was the first time I'd really heard it said? And I was like, oh, fuck.

什么？你说我们特工你说，谢谢，特工佐伊尔。你说，叫我洛伦佐。我们说，洛伦佐的油？你说，对。

What? You go we go agent you say something like, thank you, agent as oil. You go, call me Lorenzo. And we go, Lorenzo's oil? And you go, yeah.

然后你做了这个，就像你突然第一次听到它一样。那真是太棒了，杰森。真的。真的就是

Then you sort of do this, like, you suddenly heard it for the first time. And it's just fucking sublime, Jason. It really is. It really just

简直是教科书级别的。

it's just textbook.

难怪我对那段记忆模糊，因为如果没记错的话，那是个夜戏。

Not surprising that I remember little of that because I think it was a night shoot, if memory serves.

那是个夜间拍摄。没错。我们和西格妮·韦弗一起在滑雪场上面。

It was a night shoot. Yeah. We were up on the on the ski bowl with Sigourney Weaver.

在陶斯，克里斯汀·韦格以前常这么称呼它。

In in Taos, as Kristen Wiig used to call it.

陶斯。陶斯。没错。

Taos. Taos. That's right.

所以埃德加·赖特，我们已经确认他是你最好的朋友之一，做了很多工作，我不知道——我之前不知道他编剧并执导了《极盗车神》。我超爱那部电影。

So Edgar Wright, who we've already established as one of your besties and does a lot of stuff, he I didn't know I didn't know this. I didn't know he wrote and directed Baby Driver. I love that movie.

我太爱那部电影了。

Love that movie so much.

真的吗？我是说，那简直是杰作。

Really? I mean, that is a masterpiece.

他那个剧本酝酿很久了，是的。

He had that script for a long time, yeah.

我听说——我在哪儿听说你会模仿他？能来一小段埃德加吗？你说得对。他会听到的

And I hear I heard you do somewhere an impression of him. Can you do just a little bit of Edgar? You're right. He'll listen

这个，然后他会杀了我的。

to this, and he'll kill me.

他确实会听。好吧。他的声音挺尖的。

He does listen Okay. To His voice is quite high.

那太糟糕了。

That's terrible.

他喝得烂醉，还在你耳边大声嚷嚷。

He gets quite drunk, and he's talking in your ear quite loud.

天啊。他现在完全有资格亲自上节目露一手了。

Oh my god. Has a right to come on the show now himself and effort.

我们得请他上节目。他确实会——他有时会发短信给我点评节目内容。

We gotta get him on the show. He does I he does send me reviews of episodes sometimes via text.

埃德加，我的电话号码没变。我的...

Edgar, my phone number is still the same. Where's my

不算点评，但他会说'我真的很喜欢这期'。

Not reviews, but he'll say, I really enjoyed it.

我能听你这样说上九个小时。

I could listen to you do that for nine hours.

尼克也做得很好。

Nick does it really well as well.

就是这样。水准非常高。

It's got it. It's very high.

有点像翼手龙的感觉。

It's kinda like a pterodactyl.

天啊。

Oh my god.

但他我是说，我我认为遇见埃德加是我生命中最幸运的时刻之一，因为他是个非凡的天才。而且，你知道，我非常爱他，所以我确定他会原谅我

But he is I mean, I I've count it one of the luckiest moments of my life meeting Edgar just because he is such an extraordinary talent. And, you know, I I love him to bits, so I'm sure he'll forgive me for

这样模仿他的声音。

doing his voice quite like this.

我们马上回来。

We'll be right back.

现在回到节目。

And now back to the show.

我记得就像昨天一样，虽然有些细节不太确定，但我很确定那是在《热血警探》的放映会上，我相信你当时和我在一起，威利，我们被邀请参加，我遇见了你和尼克、埃德加，埃德加或你们所有人都喜欢《发展受阻》。这就是我们在那里的原因。我们就是这样被邀请的。我记得那是第一次让我觉得，

I remember like it was yesterday, although I'm not sure of some of the details, but I'm pretty sure it was a screening of hot fuzz that, I believe you were there with me, Willie, that we got invited to, and I met you and Nick and Edgar and, Edgar or you all you guys had loved Arrested Development. Like, that's why we were there. That's how we got invited. And I remember that as being one of the first times that I thought,

哦，这个节目是

oh, this show is this

这个节目被酷狐狸看到了。

show is being seen by Cool Fox.

西蒙，我想你和我想的一样。那是你和迈克·乔吉合作的电影的放映会。

Simon, I think you're thinking the same thing I am. It was a screening of the movie that you did with Mike Judge.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

那本来是 那是《Extract》的放映会

It would be was It was the screening of

哦，《Extract》。

Oh, Extract.

真的吗？《Extract》。《Extract》。

Really? Extract. Extract.

对，就是那个。

Yes. That's it.

西蒙，我们是一起去的吗？还是说我们在那儿和埃德加碰面的？

Simon, did we go together or something where we met up there with Edgar or something?

哇，没错。后来我们在酒吧里，有你、我、艾米，还有你们几个，艾米和我。我记得当时还有狗仔队拍我们勾肩搭背、笑着喝酒的照片。记得当时气氛特别放松。

Wow. That's right. And then then afterwards, we were in the bar, and it was you, me, Amy, and you guys, and Amy and me. And there was some I remember there was some paparazzi shots of us all kinda like hanging off each other and smiling and drinking. And I remember being really chill.

我当时在喝酒吗？

Was I drinking?

我不清楚。我...我那时候还在喝酒。

I don't know. I I was still drinking at that time.

不，你没有。杰森，你当时没喝。

No, you weren't. Jason, you were not.

不，那时候...那时候我还在酗酒期。不过

No. Was still I was still on it in those days. But

不。嗯，保罗那时候你刚戒酒对吧？大概就是那段时间。

No. Well, Paul's when you right when you got sober, right? Around that time.

就在保罗之后，对。我当时...是的，保罗时期我喝得挺凶的。但真正戒掉是第二年的事。

Just after Paul, yeah. I was Yeah. I was pretty drunk through Paul. But it was like the year after that that

我戒酒成功了。你真棒。

I got sober. Good you.

为你高兴。嗯。我得扇扇风因为我快...

Good for you. Yeah. I have to fan out because I'm not gonna have

撑不住了，

to Go,

肖恩。那么《星球大战》宇宙和星战世界，从小接触这些，突然被邀请进入那个世界感觉超现实吗？比如和凯丽·费雪那些人共处。还有第四、六部里那个大家伙是你演的吗？就是那个大块头？

Sean. So Star Wars universe and Star Wars world and, like, growing up, was that surreal getting, like, invited into that world? And then, like, you know, being around Carrie Fisher and all of those people. And was that you behind the thing, four, six portions? Was that you, that big guy?

对，那个穿充气肥仔装的就是我。

Yeah, that was me in the big fat suit.

哇。那全是CGI还是说...

Yeah. And and was that all CGI or was that just

他们用CG微调了我的脸让它看起来非人类些，但主要靠那套巨型戏服。那个角色叫昂卡·普拉特，千年隼的拥有者——要知道我现在既拥有过千年隼，又当过企业号的工程师，这感觉简直了。

They CGI'd my face a little bit just to make me look less human, but it was a big suit and yeah. He was called Unkar Plutt, and he owned the Millennium Falcon, which is like you know, I was very happy the fact that I have now owned the Millennium Falcon and been the engineer on the Starship Enterprise.

这也太疯狂了。

That's so insane.

这太疯狂了。

That's so insane.

但等等，你从小是粉丝，现在却置身其中，和凯丽·费雪、哈里森·福特共事？我是说，你当时是不是...

But wait, so like growing up and like seeing were you a fan and then now you're in it and you're around Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford? I mean, were you like

是啊，简直不可思议。我是说，《原力觉醒》的片场也给我这种感觉，因为它很像最初那部——我从小热爱的《星球大战》。和这些传奇同场时，哈里森·福特——也就是汉·索罗和楚巴卡重新登上千年隼号那天，我就在现场，太疯狂了。

Yeah. It was extraordinary. I I you know, I mean, that set as well, The Force Awakens, because it felt very much like the first sort of you know, the first Star Wars, the Star Wars I grew up loving. And to be around those guys, I was on set the day when when Harrison Ford and and well, Han and Chewy came onto the Millennium Falcon again for the first Crazy.

我都看哭了，真的...

I cried. I cried like,

哦，中国。

oh, China.

还有件事我之前讲过，但值得再说——我小时候疯狂迷恋凯丽·费雪。她是我记忆中第一个产生浪漫爱意的人，睡前会亲吻她的照片...

And then I had a I've told this story before, it's a good story. It's worth telling. I I I had a massive crush on Carrie Fisher when I was a kid. I mean, she was the first romantic love that I remember feeling, you know, and and I would kiss her picture before I went to sleep, and

我

I

当时完全为她着迷。在《绝地归来》上映前就...

was just so in love with her. Thought you'd do Pre Return of the Jedi, before even,

你该不会对着海报...做过什么吧？

you know Well, you had a poster? You didn't make out with a poster or something?

就害羞地亲了几下，毕竟那时才七八岁。英国1978年才上映《星球大战》。结果现在片场和她并肩走着，就...

I kinda kissed it quite sort of coyly, because I wasn't I was seven, eight, I think I was when I saw Stars. It didn't get to The UK till 1978. So I'm on set with her, and we're walking around the Just self

就像威尔的脸，正试着构思一张海报，肖恩会是什么样子？

like a Will's face, just trying to come up with a what what would the poster that Sean is?

噢我的天，肖恩？不。

Oh my oh oh, Sean? No.

德肖恩。光剑。我们在抵抗军基地的片场挽着手臂散步，我和她闲聊着。然后我停下来直视她的眼睛说——关键是，那完全就是同一双该死的眼睛。我知道这话听起来很俗套，但那就是她的眼睛。

Deshaun. Lightsabers. She we were walking around the set of the Resistance base arm in arm, and I was kind of chatting with her and stuff. And I stopped and I looked at her in her eyes, and I said, you know and the thing was, it was the same fucking eyes. It was the same I know that's an obvious thing to say, but it was her eyes.

我童年时曾梦想凝视的那双眼睛。我说：你知道我一直爱着你，对吧？

The eyes that I had just dreamed of ever looking into as a kid. And I said, You know I've always loved you, don't you?

噢，天啊。

Oh, god.

然后她抓住我的手，看着我的婚戒说：去你的。

And she grabbed my hand, and she looked at my wedding ring, she went, Fuck you.

精彩。真的吗？太搞笑了。-她是最棒的。记得多年前第一次见面时她对我说——我这辈子从没见过她——当时晚宴就坐在她旁边。

Nice. Really? This is so funny. -She's the best. Said, you know, the one thing she said to me when I first met her years and years and years and years ago, never met her in my whole life, was sitting right next to her at this dinner.

她说：知道吗，汉·索罗和我一直有一腿。我当时的反应就是：啥？这彻底粉碎了我的三观。

And she goes, You know Han Solo and I were fucking the whole time. And I was like, I was like, what? It completely shattered, like, everything.

她那次吐槽大会上。好像是吐槽哈里森·福特的专场？她开始讲话时，哈里森·福特显得特别紧张，因为他根本猜不到她会爆什么料——毕竟你们懂的，确实发生过些破事。对吧。

There's that roast she did. I think it's a roast of Harrison Ford or something, but she starts talking and and she starts talking about how nervous Harrison Ford looks because he doesn't know what she's gonna say because obviously, you know, shit happened. Right. Right.

等等。真的？稍等——

Wait. Really? Hang on a

第二。所以，你在这儿。那么现在你指的是《原力觉醒》对吧？你是说这个吗？

second. So so there you are. So now you're it was Force Awakens. Is that what you're talking about?

那就是我参演的那部。

That was what I was in.

对。《原力觉醒》。那大概是恩多战役后三十年左右吧？还有——去你的，威尔。

Yeah. Was Force Awakens. That was like that was like thirty years after the battle of Endor. Right? And and Fuck you, Will.

不，等等。我正在想，因为他们当时在——我只是在回忆，因为有个飞行员，叫什么来着？波·达默龙，他在沙漠星球贾库上。你是

No. I'm like, hang on. I'm so they're on the I'm just trying to think because because there's that pilot, what's his name? Poe Dameron, and he's he's on the desert planet of of Jakku. Are you

在看维基百科吗？

looking at Wikipedia?

是。不。他是。什么？是的。

Yes. No. He is. What? Yes.

他是。白痴。

He is. Moron.

哦，这可真是个白痴。

Oh, this is such a moron.

相信那家伙一直在贾库上。顺便说一句，

Believe they were on Jakku that whole time that guy. By the way,

你有没有注意到——你有没有注意到在那部电影里，有些人说贾库，有些人却说贾库？

did you notice did you did you notice that some people say in that movie, some people say Jakku and other people say Jakku?

当然，我他妈当然注意到了

Course, I fucking noticed

伙计，那是贾库。

it, dude. It's Jakku.

当然。

Of course.

是哪个杰克来着？对。

It's Jack who? Right.

是双k字母。拜托。当然，

It's a double k. Come on. Of course,

我注意到了。然后我去买了根绳子和一把椅子，我就想，哪里会是个好地方

I noticed it. And then I went and I bought a rope and I bought a chair, and I was like, what would be a good spot

干这个？

for this?

真他妈见鬼。

Fucking hell.

好吧。但等等。我说这话是带着爱的。你知道我爱。

Okay. But wait. I say that with love. You know that I love.

所以有时候，某些，比如在《星球大战》或27部《星际迷航》其中一部之后，随便啦。对。你说过，我读到你去度假时说过，别，我不想，你告诉你经纪人，我不想任何人打扰我。我不想接任何电话。除非是史蒂文·斯皮尔伯格打来的。

So sometimes, some, so after the Star Wars or one of the 27 Star Treks, whatever. Yeah. You said you, I read that you went on vacation and you said, don't, I don't want, you told your agent, I don't want anybody to bother me. I don't want any phone calls. Only if it's Steven Spielberg.

然后史蒂文·斯皮尔伯格那家伙打电话给你说了什么。

And Steven Spielberg fucking calls you and tells you what.

打了。是啊。

Did. Yeah.

天啊。

Oh my god.

他打电话问，你愿意来参演《头号玩家》吗？

He phoned and said, would you will you come and be in Ready Player One?

愿意。我也超爱那部电影。

Yes. I love that movie too.

这通电话显然令人难以置信。我们之前合作过，你知道的，他还在《保罗》里客串了个小角色。我先在《丁丁历险记》与他合作，后来他又来《保罗》露了个脸。接着我参演了《头号玩家》，能与他共事真是梦想成真。他简直非凡绝伦。

And which is obviously an incredible call to get. And we'd work with him, you know, because he does a little cameo in Paul as well. So I'd work with him on Tintin, and then he came in and did his his little bit in Paul. And then and then I got to do Ready Play One, and and to work with him is is a dream, you know. He's just the most extraordinary.

是啊，当然。

Yeah, of course.

我是说，他承载了我从小到大对电影的全部热爱。而且他很乐意聊聊自己的职业生涯什么的，真的非常...我超爱这点。他不会自吹自擂，就只是给你讲《大白鲨》和《第三类接触》的幕后故事，

I mean, he's everything that I loved about cinema as a kid and as an adult. And and he's very willing to sort of chat about his career and stuff. He's really, really I love that. Without crowing, you know, he'll just tell you stories about Jaws and Close Encounters,

而且

and

这真的是莫大的荣幸，懂吗？

it's just it's such a privilege, you know?

他参加了肖恩的首演之夜。

He was at Sean's opening night.

哦，他去看你的戏了？是啊。

Oh, did he go see your play? Yeah.

他是投资人

He's an investor

之一。

in it.

人挺不错的。哦，哇。他有没有

Nice nice fella. Oh, wow. Has he

上过节目？

been on?

他有没有

Has he

参加过这个节目？

been on the show?

对，对。

Yeah. Yeah.

去年上过。人超级好。

Last year. Super nice.

等等。关于《头号玩家》，你刚才稍微提到了英语，还聊了点儿美式幽默和英式幽默的区别，比如我们英国人总爱说‘开个玩笑’之类的，但美国人就...

Wait. So Ready Player One, so then you talked a little bit about the English you talked a little bit, like, American humor versus English humor, and, like, how something about, like, something about, like, how we always say, just kidding or something, but Americans, like

是啊。这事儿挺怪的。英国喜剧圈有时有种势利观点，说什么‘美国人不懂反讽’。这纯属胡扯，美国人的反讽水平堪称顶级。只是你们不常在社交场合使用罢了。

Yeah. Well, that's sort of there's a weird thing. Comes from a lot of sort of snobbishness snobbishness in British comedy circles sometimes that you hear, oh, Americans, they don't do irony. And it's such a bullshit statement because Americans do some of the greatest irony ever. You guys just don't use it so much socially.

当然在座各位除外——特别是杰森，你有个英国妈妈对吧？所以你的幽默感比沙漠还干涩。

Present company accepted your I mean, Jason, particularly, because you've a British mom, right? So you're just drier than many a desert.

他

He

确实。而且我通常脾气不好，算是双重负面特质了。

is. And I'm usually grumpy, so it's kind of a double negative.

你简直是个英国人了。

You're virtually British.

我饿坏了。他饿了。超级饿。

I'm very hungry. He's hungry. So hungry.

但英国人羞于表达情感，社交中总用讽刺反讽来包装。而美国人通常没那么拘谨，要是说了句冷幽默，他们会加个‘开玩笑的’以防对方当真——

But because British people are very ashamed of their emotions, they just wrap everything in sarcasm and irony socially, you know. But I think American people generally are just a little less uptight. And so if they do say something dry, they'll qualify it as as just kidding, just in case that person thinks that they were being serious, which is

没错。太对了。

Right. Very Right.

你看《发展受阻》就是绝佳例子，这部神剧把美式冷幽默发挥到极致。前几天我开始带我14岁女儿重看，正好自己也重温——它完美展现了顶级美式干冷幽默。

But, you know, you only have to watch I mean, Arrested is a great example of a of a a brilliantly dry comedy show, you know. It's I actually started showing my my 14 year old daughter the show the other day, which was great because it meant I could sort of go back to the beginning. And it it it's it's such a good example of, like, dry American humor at its, at its best. Yeah.

嗯，但与那些相比就相形见绌了，你知道，比如所有蒙提·派森的素材，我是说，英国版《办公室》。那种完全不眨眼、把一切都当作正剧演绎的风格。对，但角色是正剧中漏洞百出的那种。不过，这样反而能产生真正出色的幽默效果。

Well, it but it it pales in comparison to the, you know, all the Monty Python stuff, I mean, the British Office. I mean, that's that whole style of not winking and just playing everything as a drama Yeah. But a deeply flawed character in a drama. But, like, then you've got real good humor.

是啊。等等，所以新的《碟中谍》7月12日就要上映了？不是刚

Yeah. Wait. So another Mission Impossible coming out soon on July 12. It's Didn't

你们不是连续拍了两部吗？

you guys just do two in a row?

对，你们现在是在拍第二部吗？

Yeah. Are you filming the second part now?

我们正在连续拍摄两部。天啊。目前我们已经暂停拍摄，让他们先完成《致命清算（上）》，然后整个夏天我们都要跑大型宣传巡演。我们会去纽约——肖恩，请务必给我们留几张你们节目的免费票。维拉斯科。

We're in the midst of doing two in a row. Oh my god. We are we've we've stopped filming now so they can finish Dead Reckoning part one, and then we we go out on a big press tour over the summer. We'll be in New York, free tickets to your show, please, Sean. The Velasco.

在塔巴斯科剧院。

At the Tabasco Theater.

塔巴斯科剧院。太搞笑了。那里的演出简直要命。

Tabasco Theater. It's hilarious. Hell on there. Shows.

我是这节目的粉丝。然后八月份我们回去继续拍摄，完成明年上映的第二部。这过程简直像地狱——我们2020年就开始拍这部了

Fan of the show. And then we go back to shooting in August, and then we we complete part two, which will be out next year. And it's been a hell I mean, we started shooting this one in 2020

不会吧

No

准确说是2020年9月。

in way. September 2020.

哇。然后

Wow. And

我们花了三年时间拍摄这部

it's taken us three years to shoot this

电影。哇。太不可思议了。

movie. Wow. That's amazing.

就在这场骗局最猖獗的时候。

Right in the thick of the hoax.

我是说，我们有点

I mean, we kinda

疫情。我刚才说什么了？你说骗局。对。

The pandemic. What did I say? You said hoax. Yeah.

我是说，西蒙，你一直没停过创作优秀作品，我知道的。大概有二十年了吧。

I mean, Simon, you haven't stopped you haven't stopped making great stuff I know. For, like, twenty years.

是啊，我知道。

Yeah, I know.

我是说我想了解

I mean I wanna get

这个。比如，当你拿到那些剧本、制作或拍摄时，你会不会像我一样兴奋？你是这个类型的粉丝吗，就像我一样？你懂我意思吗？就像，你会觉得，哇，这太酷了。

to that. Like, do you geek out like I would if I were you when you get the scripts that you get or you produce or make? Like, are you a fan of the genre like I am? And you know what I mean? Like, you're like, oh, this is so cool.

我想我是，但感觉我有点跟不上时代了，那些新的《星球大战》剧集之类的我都没怎么追。是的。但这并不是说我不感兴趣，我确信我本来是会看的。

I think I am, but I feel like I've aged out a little bit of stuff that I I I've not kind of kept up with all the new sort of Star Wars TV shows and stuff. Yeah. And that's not to say that that it's not because I I I'm sure I have.

我可以给你补课。打电话给我就行，我来给你讲。

I can catch you up. Just call me. I'll catch

之后给你打电话。

you Give you a ring afterwards.

等等。西蒙，你在看什么喜剧？因为我在想我最近有没有看喜剧，真的很久没看了。

Wait. Yeah. Simon, what kind of stuff are you watching comedy wise? I because I'm trying to think if I watch any comedies, really. It's been a while.

是啊。有没有什么那种……

Yeah. Is there anything that's that's kind of

我昨晚开始看《我觉得你应该离开》，在Netflix上。哦，对，是的。

I started watching the show last night. I think you should leave Oh, yeah. On Netflix. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

嗯，我听说过这个。很棒。

Yeah. I've heard about that. Yeah. It's great.

我正在写下来

I'm writing it

太搞笑了。

down. It's ridiculous.

是啊，真的很棒。刚和别人重看了一遍，因为每集才十六分钟左右，不长。在亚特兰大的时候，我拉着伊莱一起全看了一遍，简直精彩绝伦。

Yeah. It's really good. Just rewatched it with somebody because it's so because the episodes are, like, sort of sixteen minutes long. They're not that long. I And just got when we were in Atlanta, I got Eli to go through and I watched them all again with him, and they were just brilliant.

是啊，这确实很奇怪，但从某种角度来说又很滑稽——就像Python曾经给人的感觉，你知道的，那种略带困惑的感觉。英国人肯定完全不明白你在说什么。

Yeah. It's really strange and but hilarious in a way that in a way that, like, Python used to be, you know, like, sort of slightly baffling. It's a British sure exactly why you're No.

他是美国人。他在这里拍摄的。蒂姆·罗宾逊是个极其出色的家伙。你知道的，我们这几年请过很多《周六夜现场》的人来节目。

He's American. He shot shot here. Tim Robinson is a brilliant brilliant guy. And as you know, the very nature of we had a lot of people from SNL on here over the year the last few years.

这个

The

小品喜剧的本质就是它非常不稳定。要让每个小品都保持高质量实在太难了。但《我觉得你应该离开》前六集...

nature of sketch comedy is that it's really inconsistent. It's so hard to from sketch to sketch, to always be strong or always be good. And that show, I think you should leave those first six episodes.

哦，你跟我说过

Oh, you told me about

始终保持着高水准。每个小品

Consistently that, good. Every sketch

我确实看了。很棒。不过那是很久以前的事了。

I did watch it. Yeah. Really good. Was a while ago. Yeah.

太精彩了。西蒙等等，抱歉，这是最后一个关于《碟中谍》的问题，因为我实在忍不住。你能...因为你的角色太有趣了，而且表演那么自然，你是不是可以自己写台词？

Brilliant. Simon, wait. I just I'm sorry. This is the last Mission Impossible question just because I'm upset. Do you get to because it's so your character's so funny and, like, it's so natural that you get to write your own lines?

他们允许你这样吗？听起来像是...

Like, are they cool with that? Because it sounds like

并不完全是。我们其实没有固定剧本。

Not really. I mean, we don't really have a script.

这是一个

It's a

非常奇怪的工作方式。我们基本上是边拍边编。我简直不敢相信。但

very strange way of working. We kind of make it up as we go along. I don't believe it. But

太疯狂了。

That's crazy.

是真的。我...我从来没读过我刚拍完的电影剧本。什么？汤姆和麦奎里，克里斯·麦奎里和汤姆·克鲁斯，他们知道故事主线。他们清楚那些大场面。

It's true. I I have not ever read a script for the film I've just made. What? Tom and McHugh, Chris McQuarrie and Tom Cruise, they know the story. They know the big set pieces.

他们知道那些大场面通常要先拍。然后克里斯·麦奎里——他特别擅长解决问题——会构思出连接剧情的内容，让故事有机生长。但我们经常在拍摄当天早上才拿到新剧本。我得问自己：上一场戏我在哪里？接下来要去哪？虽然有时让人抓狂，但这种方式确实有效。

They know that they those those set pieces get shot first usually. And then Chris McQuarrie, who is a genius at sort of like solving problems, he will come up with the connective tissue, sort of grow the story kind of organically as we But there's so know. But we get pages on the morning of shooting stuff. And I have to say, where have I been in the previous scene and where am I going? And it can be frustrating, but it sort of works.

偶尔我还能即兴发挥些搞笑桥段，比如拍《碟中谍6》时汤姆...我就像个人肉GPS。这就是我在《碟中谍》里的工作——给汤姆·克鲁斯指路。那些拿反地图和3D模型的戏码都是现场临时加的。

And occasionally, I get to kind of ad lib silly stuff, like when we were shooting a scene for for Fallout when Tom was I was sort of guiding. I'm basically like a GPS. That's my job in Impossible. Just read directions for where Tom Cruise needs to go. And all the stuff about having the map upside down and the three d thing, that was all kind of thrown in in the moment.

真的吗？麦奎里是个天才编剧，他可是奥斯卡得主，写过《非常嫌疑犯》和...

Oh, really? McHugh is a brilliant writer. Know, he's an Oscar winning writer. He wrote The Usual Suspects and What

了不起的导演。

an incredible director.

他就是能在那种情况下如鱼得水。

He just somehow thrives in that situation.

是啊，太棒了。我超爱...我简直痴迷《碟中谍》系列，每一部都...

Yeah. Incredible. I love I I am so in love with those Mission Impossible movies. All of them are so

它们总是很棒。它们太出色了。而你在其中也总是表现非凡。我是说

They're always great. They're so good. And you're always great in them. I mean

是啊。你在那些场景里如此出色，以至于很难相信像杰森说的那样，具有如此宏大格局、精妙复杂的内容，你们竟然会以那种方式即兴发挥，或者对如此重大的事情没有完全理解。我不知道。我告诉你，在阿克托的海洋星球上，这种借口可行不通。绝对不行。

Yeah. It's so hard you're so great in them, and it's hard to believe that something that so that has that kind of scope, as Jason said, that's so good and complex and stuff that that you guys would sort of improvise in that way or not really have a full understanding to me on something so big. I don't know. I tell you where that wouldn't wash is on is on the oceanic planet of Achto. No way.

你可以把Wiki窗口关掉了。

You can you can close the Wiki window.

不。你不可能蒙混

No. You wouldn't be able to get

过关的。直接把那个窗口关掉吧。

away with Just shut that window down.

我们回到正题。好吧，关于

Let's go back. Well, on

这一点，干得漂亮。

that note Beautifully done.

西蒙，你就像梦境般美好。我们已经占用你太多时间了。和你们聊天真是太愉快了。

Simon, it's you are like a dream. I this is we've taken too much of your time. This is so nice to talk to guys lot.

感觉我们才刚开始呢。继续聊吧。我

I feel like we just got started. Let's keep going. I

知道。我们可以分成上下两集。

I know. We can do two parter.

我知道。我知道。

I know. I know.

你能跟尼克·弗罗斯特打个招呼吗？

Will you say hi to Nick Frost, please?

我会的。我会的。让他接电话。让埃德加接电话。我我说，

I will. I will. Get him on. Get Edgar on. I I say,

知道，埃德加也是。

know, Edgar too.

介绍我上这个播客的是妮拉·帕克，贾斯汀你认识的。

Put me onto this podcast was Nyra Park, who you know, Justin.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

她制作了

She produced

保罗，请代我向她问好。

please Paul. Tell her hi too.

好的。

Yeah.

她是埃德加和埃德加，我的制片人。我们所有作品都有她的参与。去年她说，哦，你听Smartless对吧？我说，哦，所以我补完了全部往期节目，真的就像我每次去健身房或开车时的背景音。然后，就在最近，实际参与录制的想法突然出现了。

She's Edgar and Edgar, my producer. She's done everything we've ever done. And last year, she said, oh, you listen to Smartless, right? I said, oh, so I had the whole of the back catalog, which I literally have been like every time I go to the gym or every time I go for a drive, it's just become like the soundtrack. And then, like, however recently, the idea of actually doing it came up.

而且，我就是这么爱你们。我觉得你们太棒了。

And, it's just so I love you guys. I think you're so amazing.

如果对节目嘉宾人选有任何建议，请务必

If ever got any ideas of people we should have on the show, please let us

告诉我们。是的。

know. Yeah.

知道吗？好的。我会给你推荐些英国人，到时候你可以留下你的联系方式。

You know? Yes. I'll send you some British people, then you can leave your Please.

哦，见到你真高兴，伙计。

Oh, it's great to see you, man.

是啊。

Yeah.

西蒙，很高兴认识你。我可是你的忠实粉丝。

It's so nice to meet you, Simon. It's such a fan.

肖恩，我也是。真的非常荣幸。我是认真的想去看《晚安奥斯卡》。我很乐意去看

You too, Sean. It's a real pleasure. I I'm serious about coming to see Goodnight Oscar. I'd love to come see it

如果可能的话。随时欢迎。

if I can. Anytime.

千万别错过。没错。你会被震撼到的。西蒙，我们爱你。西蒙。

Don't miss that. Yeah. You'll be blown away. Simon, we love you. Simon.

好的。Love刚才是不是猛关了这个盖子？你猛关了他的

Okay. Love Did just slam this lid? You slam his

是的。用力关。

Yes. Slam it.

好吧。再见，

Alright. Bye,

伙计。保重。好的。

pal. Take care. Alright.

爱你们。

Love you guys.

再见。你也是。嗯，

Bye. You too. Well,

那就是严丝合缝，那就是，那就是圆钉入圆孔。

that's a listen, that is a, that is a round peg in a round hole.

哦，不错。不。

Oh, nice. No.

他是个，那钉子不是方的。不。还有呢？

He's a, that peg's no square. No. What else?

那些其实真的很棒。

Those are really good, actually.

谢了兄弟，我正边聊边琢磨一个买入机会。

Thanks, man. I'm coming up with a buy as we're as we're as we're talking here.

是吗？确实有...嗯。

Are you? There's got yeah.

知道我在想什么吗？是我一个朋友。没开玩笑，这和买入无关。我一直在试图...串联线索，刚才想到斯科蒂了。对。

You know what I'm thinking about is this friend of mine. I'm not kidding. This is not getting to a buy. This I've been trying to, like, connect the dots on I was thinking about Scotty. Yeah.

因为我们刚才聊到斯科蒂了。

Because we were talking about Scotty.

是啊，我...我告诉他西蒙·佩吉会被吓坏的。

Yeah. I I told him he I told him Simon Pegg was gonna be freaked out.

提醒我一下，从没跟你说过这事——因为你会觉得...这不是玩笑。我发小里有个铁哥们叫斯科蒂·贝尔。然后我就想到你的...我发誓。

And then remind me, I never told you this because you might that I'm this is not a joke. One of my best buddies growing up is his name is Scotty Bear. And And then I thought about your I swear to God.

真的？太巧了，因为斯科蒂是头熊（Bear），而你喜欢骨感熊（bony bear）。

Oh, really? Yes. That's funny because Scottie's a bear, and you like bony bear.

对，所以...

Right. So

我喜欢斯科蒂的骨头和皮毛。

I like Scottie's bone and fair.

嗯。

Yeah.

总之，等等，西蒙·派克，我一直想见他。真不敢相信你认识他。我不知道你们认识他。我知道你和他在保罗·杰伊那里共事过。

Anyway, so, wait, but Simon Pike, I've always wanted to meet him. I can't believe you knew him. I didn't know you you guys knew him. I knew you worked with him in Paul, Jay.

是的。

Yes.

但我不知道你认识他。他看起来真的很有趣。

But I didn't know you knew him. He seems, really fun.

杰伊现在正在查一个购买信息。

Jay is looking up a buy right now.

不。是的。我发现我的大脑需要完全关闭，专注于那件事，现在听不见你们说话。

No. Yeah. I'm finding that my brain needs to completely shut down and focus on that, and I can't hear you guys right now.

JJB试图JJB，这他妈多诡异？记得你以为那是《热血警探》的放映会，结果后来我想起来是他妈的《提取》的放映会。我还记得和迈克·贾奇、你、艾米还有西蒙去了隔壁的餐厅。

J j b Trying to j b, how fucking weird is that? So remember you thought it was a a screening of hot fuzz, and then it was and then I remembered it was a fucking screening of extract. And I remember going to the restaurant next door with Mike Judge and you and Amy and Simon.

那上面写了什么？有说什么吗？我在找可能对我有好处的信息。有什么好事是我...我不记得那是我的电影的放映会，我以为是为他和他的电影准备的？那上面写了什么好话吗？

What does that say? Is it say anything? I'm looking for something that might be good for me. Is there something good that I I don't remember it was a screening for me, my movie, that I'm thinking it was for him and his movie? Does that say something nice

不。你是想给我...加分吗？试图...

No. About Are you trying to get me, like, brownie points? Trying to

填满我自己的功劳簿，自己这边的好处。

fill up my own ledger, own side of the ledger.

不。别想那些好的...

No. Don't think The good

不。你知道吗，我小时候，我常常...天啊。在《星球大战》里。你懂吗？

no. You know, when I was as a kid, I used to Fuck me. Jesus. In Star Wars. You know?

顺便说一句，这个必须得精彩才行，因为你已经...哦，都40岁了现在。

This is gonna be by the way, it better be amazing because you are, like, oh for 40 right now.

已经没救了。

It's already lost.

这个挺有意思。你知道吗，我小时候总是搞混卢克·天行者导师的名字发音。我我我原来不知道...

This is a good one. You know, when I was a kid, I always used to mix up the pronunciation of Luke Skywalker's mentor. I I I didn't know I

没想到

didn't think

是欧比旺·克诺比。

it was Obi Wan Kenobi.

不。那不可能。绝对不行。

No. That that's no. No way.

我以为那是

I thought it was

不可能。我不能接受。

No way. I can't allow buy.

我以为是欧比旺

I thought it was Obi Wan

欧比旺·克诺比。

Obi Wan Kenobi.

还有欧比

And Obi

旺哦，我要买一个克诺比和两杯麦芽酒。什么？

Wan Oh, I'll buy one Kenobi and two malts. What?

肖恩·肖恩·奥拜。

Sean Sean Obai.

奥拜，一个克诺比？奥拜，一个克诺比。再来两杯麦芽酒？不。那是我们的外带吗？

Obai, one Kenobi? Obai, one Kenobi. And two malts? No. Was that our out?

不。不。不。《聪明反被聪明误》完全由本尼特·巴巴科、迈克尔·格兰特·特里和罗布·阿姆贾夫手工精心制作，百分百有机且匠心独运。

No. No. No. Smart Smart Smartless is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Bennett Barbaco, Michael Grant Terry, and Rob Armjarf.

聪明。反被聪明误。

Smart. Less.