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层压板。
Laminata.
大脑与宇宙。
Brains on universe.
批判性思考比以往任何时候都更重要。
Thinking critically is more important than ever.
所以我们才推出了SmashBoom这个最佳产品。
That's why we make smashboom best.
我们希望每个孩子都能学会辨别有力的论点，也能指出逻辑谬误，但如果没有你的支持，这一切都无从谈起。
We want every kid to know how to spot a good argument and how to call out a logical fallacy, but none of it is possible without your support.
说实话，要是听众不伸出援手，我们可能真的会消失。
Seriously, we could disappear if our listeners don't step up.
但这一点其实很简单。
But that part is easy.
只需加入Smarty Pass会员就行。
Just join Smarty Pass.
你可以免费收听无广告的节目，参与我们团队的线上互动，享受周边商品的折扣，还有更多福利。
You'll get access to ad free versions of our shows, special online hangs with our crew, discounts on merch, and more.
而且你知道自己在帮助我们支付辩手、音效设计师、撰稿人等的报酬，这种感觉真的很棒。
Plus, you'll feel great knowing you're helping us pay our debaters, sound designers, writers, and more.
现在就去 smartypass.org 加入吧。
Join now at smartypass.org.
谢谢。
Thank you.
接下来，正式开场。
Now it's showtime.
由《Brains on Universe》的原班人马打造，欢迎收听《Smash Boom Best》。
From the brains behind brains on, it's smash boom best.
专为有强烈观点的人打造的节目。
The show for people with big opinions.
大家好。
Hi.
我是莫莉·布卢姆，欢迎收听《 smash boom best 》。
I'm Molly Bloom, and this is smash boom best.
这档节目里，我们会挑两样东西，把它们凑到一起，然后让你来决定哪个更棒。
The show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best.
今天这场对决是动物之间的较量。
Today's debate is a critter clash.
一边是身披铠甲、笑容自信的吵闹爬行动物，另一边是脚掌带蹼、脸蛋圆嘟嘟的调皮哺乳动物。
On one side, we've got a rowdy reptile equipped with armor and a winning smile, And on the other, we've got a mischievous mammal with webbed feet and the cutest little smushy face.
没错。
That's right.
是短吻鳄对阵水獭。
It's alligators versus otters.
为水獭队出战的是作家、喜剧演员和即兴表演者安迪·希尔布兰兹。
Here to play in the waves for team otter is writer, comedian, and improviser, Andy Hillbrands.
你们一定会觉得这儿特别有趣。
You ought to believe that we're gonna have a nice time here.
而为短吻鳄队助阵的，是作家、导演兼故事海盗李·奥弗特里。
And here to tip the scales for Alligators is writer, director, and story pirate, Lee Overtree.
咬一口，咬一口，各位。
Chomp, chomp, y'all.
短吻鳄登场了。
Alligators in the house.
没错。
Yes.
担任这场动物对决裁判的是来自新泽西州蒙克莱尔的亚历克斯。
And our judge for this fauna fight is Alex from Montclair, New Jersey.
亚历克斯练跆拳道，为学校的戏剧搭布景，还打算将来画一部漫画小说。
Alex does Taekwondo, builds sets for his school plays, and wants to write a graphic novel someday.
你好，亚历克斯。
Hi, Alex.
你好。
Hi.
你是怎么开始练跆拳道的？
So how did you get started doing Taekwondo?
其实还挺有意思的。
Actually, it's kind of funny.
我五岁的时候看了《功夫熊猫》，觉得特别酷。
When I was, like, five, I watched Kung Fu Panda, and and I thought it was really cool.
我就想，我要学功夫。
And I was like, I wanna do Kung Fu.
我爸妈就说，这个跟那个挺像的。
And then my parents were like, well, this is kind of similar.
结果我真喜欢上了。
And then I really liked it.
太棒了。
That's awesome.
你居然被一只卡通熊猫激发了兴趣，这点我很喜欢。
I really like that you were inspired by a cartoon panda.
太棒了。
That's the best.
你还在你们高中的戏剧社负责舞台布景吧。
So you also are part of the stage crew for your high school theater.
对。
Yes.
你为演出搭过最有趣的东西是什么？
What's the most fun thing you've gotten to build for a show?
上一场演出，我们演的不是莎士比亚的《错误的喜剧》，而是《糟糕的喜剧》，算是对《错误的喜剧》的一个恶搞，挺特别的。
So for our last show, we did so not Shakespeare's The Comedy of Errors, but The Comedy of Terrible Errors, which is a parody on the Comedy of Errors, which is kind of weird.
我们设计的场景是一个学校正在排练《罗密欧与朱丽叶》，但临演出前临时改成了《错误的喜剧》。
But we built the it was supposed to be, like, a school that was putting on, like, Romeo and Juliet, but then at the last moment, it got changed to the comedy of errors.
所以我们搭了一个超大的平台，还加了个阳台，模仿《罗密欧与朱丽叶》里那个经典场景。
And so we built this really big, like, platform with, like, a balcony that was supposed to be, you know, like, the famous scene from Romeo and Juliet.
是的。
Mhmm.
那确实挺有挑战的，但做起来特别有意思。
So that was, like it was hard, but it was really fun to build.
这太酷了。
That's so cool.
你有想过你的漫画小说想讲什么故事吗？
Do you have ideas for what you want your graphic novel to be about?
我经常自己创作一些角色。
Well, I make a lot of, like, of my own characters.
所以就想围绕他们来展开一个故事。
So, like, something about them.
我喜欢科幻和奇幻类的东西。
You know, like, I like, like, sci fi and fantasy things a lot.
所以故事方向大概会往这方面靠。
So, like, something along those lines.
不过我也读过很多漫画小说，作者常常讲的是自己的经历。
But I also you know, I used to read a lot of graphic novels, and, like, the author would tell a story about themselves.
所以我可能会做点类似自传性质的内容。
So I might do kind of, like, an autobiographical thing.
太棒了。
Very cool.
亚历克斯会选水獭队还是短吻鳄队呢？
Will Alex pick team Otter or team Alligator?
时间会给出答案。
Only time will tell.
不过首先，咱们来看看比赛规则。
But first, here are the rules of the game.
每场辩论分为四轮： greatness 宣言、微轮、突袭战，以及最终六强。
Every debate consists of four rounds, the declaration of greatness, the micro round, the sneak attack, and the final six.
每轮结束后，我们的评委亚历克斯会给表现更出色的一方打分，但他的评判会严格保密，直到辩论结束才公布。
After each round, our judge, Alex, will award points to the team that impresses him the most, but he'll keep his decisions top secret until the end of the debate.
听众朋友们，也欢迎你们一起来评判。
Listeners, we want you to judge too.
听的时候记下你们觉得该给的分数。
Mark down your points as you listen.
节目结束后，上我们的网站 smashboom.org，投出你认为获胜的队伍。
At the end of the show, head to our website, smashboom.org, and vote for whichever team you think won.
好的。
Okay.
Alex、Andy 和 Lee，你们准备好了吗？
Alex, Andy, and Lee, are you ready?
准备好了。
Yes.
早就准备好了。
Totally ready.
我可等这一天好久了。
Oh, I've been waiting for this.
那现在就进入第一轮——
Then it's time for the
伟大的宣言。
Declaration of greatness.
在这一轮中，辩手们将提出一个精心设计的、富有代入感的论证，支持自己的立场，之后每人有三十秒时间反驳对方的观点。
In this round, our debaters will present a well crafted immersive argument in favor of their side, then they'll each have thirty seconds to rebut their opponent's statements.
我们来抛硬币。
We flip to coin.
Lee，你先来。
And, Lee, you're up first.
跟我们说说，为什么短吻鳄就是短吻鳄。
Tell us why alligators are alligators.
好的。
Okay.
我先说一句：再见了，短吻鳄。
Let me start by saying, see you later, alligator.
我知道你在想什么。
I know what you're thinking.
一上来就说再见，这理由太充分了。
Starting by saying goodbye makes so much sense.
对吧？
Right?
我同意。
I agree.
因为‘再见了，短吻鳄’这说法，简直是告别里最酷的。
Because see you later, alligator is the coolest way of saying goodbye.
水獭能说什么？
What do otters have?
快从水里出来，水獭。
Get out of the water, otter.
不行。
No.
等等。
Wait.
跟你的女儿打个招呼吧，水獭。
Say hi to your daughter, otter.
不行。
No.
卢克，我是你父亲，水獭。
Luke, I am your father, otter.
天哪。
Sheesh.
看到了吧？
See?
没那么酷。
Not as cool.
但话说回来，‘再见，短吻鳄’这句话其实是个很靠谱的科学预测，基于我们对这些鳞片沼泽小狗的了解。
But also, see you later alligator is a solid scientific prediction given what we know about these scaly swamp puppies.
我的意思是，从长远来看，未来的人们大概还是会看到短吻鳄跟今天一模一样，因为这些满口尖牙的小可爱，三千万年来几乎没什么变化。
What I mean is later, far in the future, you'll probably still see alligators looking the same way as they do today because these teethy cuties have been pretty much the same for thirty million years.
几乎其他所有动物都得长出新的身体部位或改变外形来适应变化的地球，但鳄鱼不用。
Almost every other animal has had to grow new body parts or change their appearance to survive a changing planet, but not alligators.
它们一开始就把事情做对了。
They got it right the first time.
没错。
Yeah.
干得漂亮，我亲爱的小咬木头。
Way to go, my sweet little chomp logs.
它们能一直保持原样，是因为它们的构造完美到能应对任何极端环境，真的任何环境。
And they've been able to stay the same because they're perfectly built to survive anything, and I mean anything.
我知道你在想什么。
Because I know what you're thinking.
李，既然鳄鱼这么能活，那为啥不能参加电视节目《幸存者》呢？
Lee, if alligators are such good survivors, why aren't they allowed to compete on the TV show Survivor?
我一开始也这么想。
I thought the same thing.
但很明显，这对其他人来说不公平。
But obviously, you know, it wouldn't be fair to everyone else.
卡莉，你只靠着一条毯子、一瓶水，还有冲上岸的一根曲棍球杆，在这个荒岛上活了一个月。
Carrie, you managed to live one month on this desert island with nothing but a blanket, a flask of water, and a hockey stick that washed up on shore.
我用石头把杆子磨成了长矛。
I used rocks to sharpen it into a spear.
真厉害。
Impressive.
但鳄鱼，你这一辈子都靠满嘴的牙齿在这岛上活下来，连乌龟壳都能咬穿。
But, alligator, you managed to survive your entire life on this island with nothing but a mouthful of teeth, which can bite through a turtle's shell.
鳄鱼，你才是真正的赢家。
Alligator, you are the winner.
等等。
Wait.
我都能咬穿
I can bite through
乌龟也算。
a turtle too.
你看。
Look.
有人能叫个牙医来吗？
Someone please call a dentist.
短吻鳄也是出色的猎手。
Alligators are also excellent hunters.
它们会藏在水里，悄悄靠近猎物，然后突然扑出去咬住。
They'll camouflage themselves in the water and sneak up on prey before darting out and biting down.
抱歉。
Sorry.
有些甚至学会了让人送饭上门。
Some of them have even figured out how to get food delivered.
在鸟类筑巢季节，这些短吻鳄会把树枝顶在头上，等鸟儿来捡树枝做窝。
These alligators balance sticks on their heads during bird nesting season when birds are looking for twigs to build a nest.
鸟看到棍子，飞过来想叼走，结果被一口咬住。
A bird sees the stick, comes on over to grab one, and chomp.
再见。
See you.
哇哦。
Woah.
这太厉害了。
That's awesome.
我得额外付钱才能叫外卖。
I have to pay extra to get my meals delivered.
对啊。
Yeah.
嗯，大概这就是顶级掠食者的福利吧。
Well, I guess it's just one of the perks of being an apex predator.
顶级掠食者是什么？
What's an apex predator?
意思就是，短吻鳄处在食物链的最顶端。
It basically means alligators are the top of the food chain.
就是老大，动物界里最厉害的那一个。
You know, the big dog, the best of the beasties.
它们几乎什么都吃。
They can eat almost anything.
等它们长成以后，谁都不敢招惹。
And once they're fully grown, nothing dares mess with them.
就像大自然早就给它们颁了最佳冠军奖。
It's like nature already crowned them the smashboom best.
不过我知道你又在想什么了。
But I know what you're thinking again.
李，你怎么总能猜到我在想什么？
Lee, why do you always know what I'm thinking?
不，我的意思是，既然它们这么能吃，那肯定也是特别棒的妈妈。
No, I mean Lee, since they are such efficient eating machines, they must also be excellent mothers.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
很明显。
Obviously.
母短吻鳄会下蛋，但它们自己没法保温，因为是冷血动物，所以会用腐烂的植物材料筑巢。
Mama gators lay eggs, but they can't keep them warm themselves because gators are cold blooded, so they make nests out of decaying plant stuff.
植物腐烂时会释放热量，让鳄鱼蛋保持温暖舒适。
As the plant stuff decays, it gives off warmth, and that keeps the gator eggs so cozy.
真聪明。
Clever.
对吧？
Right?
到了孵化的时候，妈妈鳄鱼会小心地用嘴叼着蛋，把它们带到水边。
When it's time to hatch, the momma gator carefully takes the eggs in her mouth and brings them near water.
她会帮宝宝出来，让它在水里扑腾着洗第一次澡。
She'll help her baby out and let it splish splash for its first bath.
哎呀。
Aw.
太可爱了。
So cute.
我真想亲你一下，行吗？
I just wanna kiss you a little okay.
不好意思。
Sorry.
别靠小短吻鳄太近。
Don't get too close to baby alligators.
明白吗？
Okay?
这些小家伙会一直跟在妈妈身边好几年，妈妈会像任何一位母亲那样保护它们——对任何靠近的威胁，都会凶猛地扑上去撕咬。
Those babies will stay close to their mom for years, and she'll protect them the way any other mother would, by viciously tearing the flesh off of anything that bothers them.
真可爱。
So sweet.
咱们来回顾一下。
So let's review.
鳄鱼是生命力超强的生物。
Alligators are survivors.
它们聪明善猎，母性十足，依我看，还特别招人喜欢。
They are clever hunters, loyal moms, and if you ask me, totally adorable.
那可爱的小牙齿。
Those cute little teeth.
天哪。
Oh my goodness.
那滑稽的蜥蜴式微笑。
The funny lizardy smiles.
鳄鱼，不如叫‘高分者’吧。
Gators, more like graders.
我说得对吧？
Am I right?
现在，我知道你们在想什么。
And now once again, I know what you're thinking.
你们肯定在想，李，你该怎么收尾，才能配得上前面这些精彩的内容呢？
So you must be thinking, Lee, how are you gonna close out such a winning argument in a way that does justice to all of the awesomeness that came before it.
我的回答是：用史上最棒的告别语——回头见，短吻鳄。
To which I say, with the best sign off of all time, see you later, alligator.
没错。
Yes.
李，你讲得太到位了。
Lee, you nailed it.
太棒了。
Woo hoo.
没错。
Yes.
是啊
Oh, yeah.
对啊
Oh, yeah.
太棒了
Woo.
哇
Wow.
那番话真是英勇又充满冒险精神，把所有短吻鳄都夸上了天。
A heroic and adventurous declaration of greatness there for alligators.
是的
Yeah.
哇
Wow.
我都没意识到我们居然请到了迈克尔·贝来当导演。
I didn't realize we were able to get Michael Bay to direct ours.
这太惊人了。
That's incredible.
亚历克斯，你觉得李的论点中最让你印象深刻的是什么？
Alex, what stood out to you about Lee's argument?
特别搞笑。
It was very funny.
我还特别喜欢关于短吻鳄的那些知识点。
And I really liked all the facts about alligators.
我对生物学和进化论特别感兴趣。
I'm very into, like, biology and evolution.
所以我觉得特别有意思的是，短吻鳄其实没怎么进化，因为它们已经完美到不需要改了。
So that, like, stood out to me how, like, alligators haven't had a lot of adaptations because they're so perfect.
是的。
Yeah.
还有你拿水獭来对比，来支持你的观点。
And, like, comparing them to otters to defend your side.
没错。
Absolutely.
说到拿它们和水獭比较，安迪，该你反驳了。
Well, speaking of comparing them to otters, Andy, it is time for your rebuttal.
你有三十秒时间说明为什么鳄鱼其实没什么威胁力，现在开始计时。
You get thirty seconds to show why alligators don't really have bite, and your thirty seconds starts right now.
好的。
Okay.
首先，它们怎么道别？
First, how would they say goodbye?
它们会说：‘我走啦，水獭。’
They'd say, I'm otter here.
就是这么简单。
I mean, it's just that simple.
其次，我们当然很想看到水獭参加《幸存者》。
Second, of course, we'd love to see an otter on Survivor.
你知道吗？海獭是地球上仅有的五种会使用石器的物种之一。
Did you know that the otters are one of the only five stone tool using species on Earth?
而且它是唯一一种会这样做的非灵长类雄性哺乳动物。
And it's the only non primate male mammal that does that.
再说，其实鳄鱼也没那么可怕，毕竟我们得记住，海獭确实有过攻击并杀死鳄鱼的案例。
Also, you know, it isn't that the alligators are so scary because we need to remember that there are instances of otters attacking and killing alligators.
事实上，在佛罗里达，有位摄影师拍到一只体重只有30磅、跟火鸡差不多大的河獭，正在吃一条五英尺长的……
In fact, in Florida, a photographer caught one river otter, only 30 pounds, the size of a Thanksgiving turkey, eating a five foot What?
天哪。
Oh my god.
可别被它们可爱的外表骗了。
Don't let those good looks deceive you.
好吧。
Okay.
你只要说‘一只和火鸡一样大的海獭’，我就听不下去了，因为这简直是我这辈子听过最吓人的画面。
All you had to do is say otter the size of a Thanksgiving turkey, and I stopped listening because that is the most horrific image I've ever had to contemplate in my life.
你是想让我今晚吓得出冷汗吗？
Are you trying to make me wake up in a cold sweat tonight?
你刚才已经做到了。
Because you just did.
这可不太像是能说服人的说法。
And I'm not sure that exactly is the path to a winning argument.
那还不是最大的呢，兄弟。
That's not even the biggest one, buddy.
天哪。
Oh, my.
我的天啊。
Yikes.
这个月我别想睡好觉了。
I'm not gonna sleep the rest of the month.
我的天啊。
Oh, my gosh.
这场辩论已经非常精彩了。
This is a very exciting debate already.
广告结束后，我们马上回来继续。
We're going to be right back with more after this.
太棒了。
Best.
碾压。
Smash.
碾压。
Smash.
太棒了。
Best.
好的。
Okay.
我们回来了，今天的话题是短吻鳄对水獭，安迪马上要告诉我们，水獭是怎么靠游泳赢得胜利的。
We're back with alligators versus otters, and Andy is about to tell us why otters are going to swim their way to victory.
好的。
Okay.
就快了。
Almost there.
加油。
Come on.
动动脑筋。
Think.
动动脑筋。
Think.
动动脑筋。
Think.
行了。
Alright.
这儿再添一点点浆糊。
Just a a little more paste over here.
好的。
Okay.
哦，是毛线团。
Oh, pipe cleaners.
对。
Yes.
用毛线团做胡须。
Pipe cleaners for whiskers.
哦。
Oh.
哦，这看起来不错。
Oh, that's looking good.
完美。
And perfect.
我完成了。
I did it.
世界上最大的水獭雕塑终于完成了。
The world's largest otter sculpture is finally finished.
看这半写实的人造毛皮，多逼真。
See the semi realistic artificial fur?
这能戳一戳的鼻子，怎么样？
The boopable nose?
连气味都跟真水獭一模一样。
It even smells like a real otter.
过来一下。
Come here.
闻一闻。
Take a whiff.
闻出来了吗？
Smell that?
这是死鱼的味道。
That is dead fish.
为了这个项目，我真是下了大功夫。
That's a commitment I had to this project.
我还没提呢吧？
And did I mention?
它有将近三十米高。
It's 95 feet tall.
天哪。
Wow.
这真是个巨大的水獭雕像。
That's one big otter statue.
那当然了。
It ought to be.
我用了好几吨纸浆才做成这个大家伙。
I used several tons of paper mache to make this baby.
我觉得这应该是世界上最大的水獭雕像了。
I reckon that's the biggest otter statue in the world.
希望如此。
I hope so.
我已经提交给《吉尼斯世界纪录》了。
I submitted it to the Guinness Book of World Records.
你可能在想，安迪，你为什么辞掉工作，全身心投入做这个95英尺高的水獭雕塑？
Now, you might be wondering, Andy, why did you quit your job and devote a 100% of your time to making a 95 foot tall otter sculpture?
问得好。
Good question.
你真的把退休积蓄全花在买材料上了？
Andy, did you seriously clean out your retirement savings to pay for the supplies?
这问题更到位。
Better question.
你上一次睡觉是什么时候？
Andy, when was the last time you slept?
答案是肯定的。
The answer is yes.
我确实辞了工作，把我的401(k)养老金全掏空了。
I did quit my job and clean out my four zero one k.
至于睡觉，我根本睡不着，一闭上眼睛，满脑子都是九十五英尺高的水獭。
And no, I don't sleep because every time I close my eyes, I see 95 feet tall otters.
真是让人佩服。
Shucks.
你一定特别喜欢水獭吧。
You must love otters.
不只是喜欢，我简直着了魔。
More than love, I'm obsessed.
它们真的太可爱了。
They're super cute.
圆滚滚的小脸，像泰迪熊一样的身子，还有那蓬松的毛发。
The little round faces, the teddy bear like bodies, the fluffy fur.
但可别被它们骗了。
But don't be fooled.
海獭其实是出色的猎手。
Otters are actually incredible hunters.
它们潜入水中，从海底抓取海胆、蛤蜊和螃蟹这类猎物。
They dive into the water and grab their prey off the ground underwater like urchins, clams, and crabs.
然后浮上水面，仰躺在水面上，像躺在水上的吊床一样，把小零食放在肚子上，好像肚子上有个小餐桌。
Then they come up to the surface, float on their back like they're laying on a watery hammock, and place their little snacks on their bellies like they got little tummy tables.
但这里有个特别酷的地方。
But here's a really cool thing.
因为它们的很多猎物外壳特别硬，比如蛤蜊和贻贝，海獭会用工具来进食。
Because a lot of their prey have super hard shells like clams and mussels, otters use tools to eat.
科学家观察到，它们会用石头砸开贝壳，然后吸出里面的食物。
Scientists have seen them using rocks to break open shells so they can slurp up what's inside.
由于它们常生活在海洋等寒冷环境中，海獭每天必须吃大量食物才能保持体温。
And because they often live in cold environments like the ocean, otters have to eat a lot every day to stay warm.
有些海獭每天能吃掉大约25磅的食物。
Some eat about 25 pounds of food every single day.
所以拜托了，千万别邀请海獭去你的餐厅。
So please, please never invite an otter to your restaurant.
今晚的特色菜是太平洋小帘蛤，配松露奶油酱，再撒上一点——嘿，海獭们，你们得自己付钱。
Tonight's special will be Pacific Littleneck clams served in a truffle cream sauce garnished with a hey, you otters.
这些海獭得自己买单。
You gotta pay for those.
它们这么能吃，其实对环境有好处。
All this eating helps the environment.
生活在加州沿海的海獭特别爱吃海胆。
The otters who live off the coast of California love to munch on sea urchins.
海胆吃海藻，要是没有海獭控制海胆的数量，海胆就会泛滥，把整个海底的海藻林都吃光。
Urchins eat kelp, so without the otters to keep the urchins in check, there'd be way too many urchins and they'd eat up all the beautiful underwater kelp forests.
谢谢你们，海獭。
So thank you, otters.
而且海獭真是扫兴的家伙。
Plus, otters are real party poopers.
我的意思是，它们在排便前喜欢跳段舞。
And by that, I mean they like to dance right before they poop.
某些雄性海獭会上岸，左右摇晃身体，翘着屁股在空中摆动，然后才排便。
Certain male otters will get on solid ground and sway from foot to foot, waving their butts in the air before going number two.
喂。
Hey.
你来看这个。
Check this out.
我管这叫‘便便小跑’。
I call it the turd trot.
干得漂亮。
Nice one.
这个叫‘粪便之舞’。
This one's called the dung dance.
科学家还不确定它们为什么这么做，但有可能是在用舞蹈互相交流，比如：嘿，来加入我的队伍吧。
Scientists aren't sure why they do this, but it's possible they're using their dances to talk to each other like, hey, you should join my group.
我太厉害了。
I'm super cool.
喂？
Hello?
您是安迪·希尔布兰兹吗？
Are you Andy Hillbrands?
我是吉尼斯世界纪录的工作人员。
I'm from the Guinness Book of World Records.
给您。
Here you go.
天啊，我做到了。
OMG, I did it.
我真的做到了。
Oh, I did it.
安德鲁·希尔布兰兹，创造了世界上最大的纸浆河狸雕像，高94英尺？
Andrew Hillbrands for the world's largest paper mache statue of an otter, 94 feet tall?
哦，等等。
Oh, wait.
等等。
Wait.
等等。
Wait.
请回来一下。
Please, come back.
它有95英尺高。
It's 95 feet.
哇。
Wow.
这可真是破纪录的壮举，简直值得你搭上退休积蓄，我敢说。
A record breaking declaration of greatness there worth giving up your retirement savings for, I dare say.
好的。
Okay.
亚历克斯，安迪那番关于伟大的宣言里，你觉得最突出的是什么？
Alex, what stood out to you about Andy's declaration of greatness?
首先，我特别喜欢那些音效。
Well, first of all, I love the sound effects.
而且所有的数据都挺可爱的。
Just also the all the facts were really cute.
整体也很搞笑。
It was very funny as well.
我喜欢那个小餐厅的桥段。
I like the little restaurant bit.
那个部分挺棒的。
That was good.
我觉得海獭控制海胆数量的方式特别有意思。
And I thought it was cool how the otters keep the sea urchin populations down.
这确实很厉害。
That's pretty cool.
确实很酷。
Very cool indeed.
好的，李。
Okay, Lee.
你有三十秒时间告诉我们，为什么你居然不喜欢海獭，现在开始计时。
You get thirty seconds to tell us why you otter not like otters, and your thirty seconds begins right now.
好的，亚历克斯。
Okay, Alex.
你提到了那个餐厅的部分。
You mentioned the restaurant bit.
我得告诉你个不好的消息，朋友，海獭不仅拥有科学家所说的自然界最臭的粪便，绝对得躲远点，而且它们的小费给得特别少。
Well, I have some bad news for you, my friend, which besides otters having what scientists call the smelliest poop in nature and something you definitely want to avoid, they also are terrible tippers.
科学家发现，只要海獭去餐厅，小费基本就给6%到7%。
Scientists have noticed that anytime otters go to a restaurant, they're only tipping like six or 7%.
在这个年代，这简直太离谱了。
That's ridiculous in this day and age.
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服务员也需要拿像样的工资，亚历克斯。
Waiters and waitresses need a living wage, Alex.
他们
They
需要这个。
need it.
求你了。
Please.
还有泰。
And Ty.
你知道吗？
You know what?
我得说，因为他们自己就能养活自己，从来不需要做服务行业的工作。
I will say, but because they're so self sufficient, they've never had to get a job in the service industry.
所以他们不明白，给15%到20%的小费有多重要。
So they don't understand that tipping 15 to 20 is extremely important.
我以前当过服务员，所以就算没吃到饭，我也只给20%的小费。
See, I was a waiter once, so I can only tip 20% even if I don't get my food.
听上去就像个莫名其妙放弃了自己的401(k)的人。
Spoken like someone who just gave up their four zero one k apparently for some reason.
我放弃是因为我根本没那个东西。
I gave it up because I don't have one.
来得容易，去得也快。
Easy come, easy go.
好吧。
Okay.
亚历克斯，该给分数了。
Alex, it is time to award some points.
请把一分给你觉得最出色的宣言，再把一分给让你信服的反驳。
Please give one point to the declaration of greatness that you liked best and one point to the rebuttal that won you over.
你来定什么才算有说服力的论点。
You get to decide what makes a winning argument.
有没有哪一队的论点更有说服力？
Did one team make stronger points?
有没有哪一队表现得更有激情？
Did another show more passion?
把分数投出去吧，但别告诉我们你投给了谁。
Award your points, but don't tell us who they're going to.
你决定好了吗？
Have you made your decision?
好了。
Yes.
很好。
Excellent.
李和安迪，你们俩现在感觉怎么样？
Lee and Andy, how are you two feeling so far?
我感觉很棒，安迪。
I feel great, Andy.
我觉得你也该感觉很棒，毕竟努力才是最重要的。
I think that you should feel great too because, you know, effort is the most important thing.
论点的质量反而没那么关键。
Quality of argument, less important.
所以恭喜你，朋友。
So You know congratulations, my friend.
我本来想说，我直接把头埋在手里，闭上眼睛，静静听你那番精彩有力的陈述。
I was about to say that I just kinda put my head in my hands and just closed my eyes and listened to your beautifully produced argument.
但现在我才意识到，我们刚才其实都在暗地里互相较劲。
But now I didn't realize that we were taking little passive jabs.
天哪。
Oh my goodness.
我真等不及想听接下来的了。
I cannot wait to hear what's next.
我们先休息一下。
We're gonna take a quick break.
抖抖毛，把牙缝也清干净。
So fluff your fur and floss between those teeth.
马上回来，继续精彩纷呈的 SmashBoom Vest。
And we'll be right back with more smashboom vest.
您现在收听的是《辩论现状》，这里是激情辩论与令人惊叹的论辩的殿堂。
You're listening to State of Debate, home to raging rhetoric and awe inspiring argumentation.
大家好，各位辩论爱好者。
Greetings, debate enthusiasts.
我是泰勒·林肯，最热情洋溢的辩手。
I'm Taylor Lincoln, the most enthusiastic of debaters.
我是托德·道格拉斯，最值得辩论的爱好者。
And I'm Todd Douglas, the most debatable of enthusiasts.
泰勒，今天我给你准备了个大陷阱。
And, Taylor, I have a doozy of a fallacy for you today.
大陷阱？
A doozy?
快说说看。
Do tell.
你知道吧，谬误就是辩论中犯的错误，会让你的论点很容易被驳倒。
Well, you know that fallacies are debate mistakes that make your argument easy to defeat.
我当然知道。
I sure do.
我刚刚目睹了‘谬误谬误’。
Well, I just witnessed the fallacy fallacy.
就是当你觉得，只要有人用了谬误，那他的整个论点就肯定有问题。
That's when you decide that if someone uses a fallacy, their entire argument must be bad.
这可真是个厉害的谬误。
That is a doozy.
听了都让人晕头转向。
It makes me feel dizzy.
你听好了。
Take a listen.
哦。
Oh.
格蕾特，你快看。
Gret, look.
那边那栋房子，是用糖果做的。
That house over there, it's made of sweets.
哦，天哪，汉塞尔。
Oh, wow, Hansel.
我超爱甜食。
I love sweets.
咱们去啃几口门廊吧。
Let's go start nibbling on the front steps.
汉塞尔，这可不行。
Hansel, that is not a good idea.
为什么不行？
Why not?
我一向说，生活要是给你一栋糖果做的房子，你就该把它吃掉。
I always say, when life gives you a house made out of sweets, you eat that house.
是啊，但糖吃多了对身体不好。
Yes, but too many sweets are bad for you.
再说，那房子看着挺旧的，糖果说不定都干硬了。
Plus, that house looks kind of old, and those sweets might be super stale.
而且我们现在在魔法森林里。
And we're in the Enchanted Forest.
谁都知道，魔法森林里用糖果盖的房子都是女巫的，那些女巫可会把你吃掉。
Everybody knows that houses made out of sweets in the Enchanted Forest belong to witches, and those witches will want to eat you.
谁都知道？
Everyone knows?
格蕾特，亲爱的，你这说法不对。
Gretel, my dear, that is a fallacy.
你总觉得人人都懂，可未必人人都知道啊。
You're assuming everyone knows this when some people might not.
这论点太糟糕了。
What a terrible argument.
既然你用了谬误，那我肯定你之前的所有观点都不靠谱。
And since you used a fallacy, I'm sure that all your previous points are bad too.
现在，容我先去啃几片屋瓦。
Now, excuse me while I go snarf some roof shingles.
哇，汉塞尔。
Wow, Hansel.
你妹妹用了一个逻辑谬误，不代表你就该全盘否定她的所有观点。
Just because your sister used one logical fallacy doesn't mean you should ignore all of her arguments.
她有些观点其实很有道理。
Some of those points were solid.
面对任何观点都要仔细审视、保持怀疑，尤其是涉及神秘糖果屋的时候。
It's good to look closely at all the points made and be skeptical, especially when mysterious candy houses are involved.
没错没错，泰勒·图蒂。
Indeedy doody, Taylor Tootie.
好了，今天《辩论现状》就到这里。
And that's all we have time for today on State of Debate.
smashboom。
Smashboom.
最棒的。
Best.
您正在收听 smashboom。
You're listening to smashboom.
最棒的。
Best.
我是主持人莫莉·布卢姆。
I'm your host, Molly Bloom.
我是评委亚历克斯。
And I'm your judge, Alex.
我们非常欢迎听众像这样给我们提辩论建议。
And we love getting debate suggestions from our listeners like this one.
我叫Maxine，住在明尼苏达州的明尼阿波利斯。
My name is Maxine, and I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
我的辩论题目是：孩子和父母。
And my debate idea is kids versus parents.
哇哦。
Oh my.
这绝对能引发一场经久不衰的家庭餐桌辩论。
This will start some dinner table debates for the ages.
没问题。
Absolutely.
我们稍后会在
We'll check back in at the
本期节目结束时揭晓，麦肯齐认为哪一方应该获胜。
end of this episode to see which side Maxine thinks should win.
现在回到今天的辩论：短吻鳄对决水獭。
And now back to today's debate, alligators versus otters.
准备好迎接第二轮吧。
Get ready for round two.
这是
It's the
微轮对决。
Micro round.
安迪和李，你们每人有三次机会，用一个有趣的事实来支持你的观点。
Andy and Lee, you'll each get three chances to make a micro argument backed by a cool fact.
上一轮是李先开的场，所以这次安迪你先来。
Lee started things off last round, so Andy, you get to go first.
来分享你的第一个海獭冷知识吧。
Please share your first otter fact.
咔嚓，咔嚓。
Chomp, chomp.
海獭的咬合力可达每平方英寸615磅。
Sea otters bite with up to 615 pounds per square inch of force.
你知道还有什么动物也是这样吗？
You know what also does that?
黑熊。
A black bear.
没错。
That's right.
挺可爱的。
It's cute.
它会把自己裹在海藻里，咬合力跟熊一样强。
It wraps itself in seaweed, and it bites like a bear.
等等。
Wait.
他刚才是不是说了‘咔嚓咔嚓’？
Did he just say chomp chomp?
我明明在节目一开始就把这个词儿注册成所有鳄鱼的专属音效了。
Because I thought I trademarked that for alligators at the beginning of the episode.
不是。
No.
吃豆人早在七十年代就注册了这个商标。
Pac Man trademarked that in the seventies.
哦，原来如此。
Oh, okay.
对。
Yeah.
你说得对。
You're right.
你说得对。
You're right.
那看来我们得给吃豆人付不少钱了。
Well, I guess we're gonna be paying a lot of money to Pac Man.
好吧。
Okay.
我的观点是，短吻鳄和鳄鱼很像，但其实不是同一种动物。
So my fact is that alligators and crocodiles are similar, but they're not the same thing.
短吻鳄的鼻子是圆的，而鳄鱼的鼻子更尖。
Alligators, they have round snouts, and crocs have pointy ones.
鳄鱼的牙齿看起来更密集，相比之下，短吻鳄反而特别可爱。
Crocs also have, like, toothier faces, and so alligators, they're so cute.
它们的下颌还稍微往前凸一点。
They have a little underbite.
就像这样。
Like that.
世界上只有一个地方，短吻鳄和鳄鱼能自然地生活在一起。
And there's only one place in the world where crocodiles and alligators live side by side.
那个地方，只要有可能，我绝对不去。
The number one place that I avoid if I can.
没错，就是佛罗里达。
That's right, Florida.
真的是大型爬行动物的大杂烩，它们连乌龟和老人都能吃。
Truly, the melting pot of large reptilian creatures who could eat a turtle and senior citizens.
你是说它们会吃老人，还是连老人一起吃？
Do you mean they would eat senior citizens or also senior citizens?
你这话说得，简直揭开了一个我特别想推广的阴谋论。
Well, you may have just uncovered a conspiracy theory that I'm very much in favor of putting forward.
哦，第二个事实。
Oh, fact two.
它们真的好可爱。
Oh, they're so sweet.
你知道吗？小海獭一出生，毛发就能浮在水面上。
Did you know that baby sea otters are born with fur that floats?
所以它们还没开始做别的，就先像软木塞一样漂在水里。
So before they do anything, they just float like a cork in the water.
我觉得这太可爱了。
And I think that's so sweet.
我还想指出一点，我的论点是想把水獭说得更吓人一点，而你的论点却是想让短吻鳄显得可爱。
And I would also like to point out that I love that the both of our arguments is me trying to make otters more scary and you trying to make alligators seem cute.
我
I
太喜欢了。
love it.
明白了。
Okay.
接下来这个可能是我最喜欢的关于短吻鳄的事实，因为它们的性别是靠温度决定的，朋友。
This next one is probably my favorite fact about alligators because they are gender curious, my friend.
公的，母的。
Male, female.
小短吻鳄的性别，完全取决于孵化时的温度。
For baby alligators, it's a matter of temperature.
还记得我之前说过的那些巢穴吗？
Remember those nests that I mentioned earlier?
小鳄鱼蛋是雄是雌，完全取决于巢穴的温度，这简直太神奇了。
Well, baby alligator eggs will become either male or female depending on how hot or cold the nest is, which is just wild.
超过33摄氏度，这个温度我实在说不上来是多少华氏度，完全没概念。
Above 33 degrees Celsius, which I could not tell you what that is in Fahrenheit, so I really don't have a frame of reference for this fact at all.
但只要超过33摄氏度，孵出来的就全是公的。
But above 33 degrees Celsius, the eggs make all male babies.
低于30摄氏度，就全是母的。
Below 30 Celsius, they become female.
那介于30到33度之间呢？
What happens between thirty and thirty three degrees?
据说科学家们还在研究这个问题。
I guess scientists are still working on that.
不过这儿还有一个额外的小趣闻。
But here here's a bonus fun fact.
当小鳄鱼在蛋里准备破壳时，会发出小小的叫声，好让妈妈知道。
When the baby gator inside the egg is ready to hatch, it starts making cute little noises to let the mama know.
就像烤箱的计时器响了，告诉你饼干烤好了一样。
Oh, it's like an oven timer letting you know that your cookies are done baking.
只不过这次不是饼干，而是小鳄鱼，别想吃它们，它们还是会咬人的。
But instead of cookies, it's baby gators that you should not eat because they still bite.
可能在三十到三十三度之间吧。
Maybe between thirty and thirty three degrees.
它们是非二元的。
They're non binary.
我也是这么想的。
That's what I'm thinking.
对吧？
Right?
这太酷了。
Which is so cool.
鳄鱼是地球上最古老的物种之一，却偏偏最开明。
Alligators, they've been around the longest and yet they're the most progressive.
是啊，水獭确实很可爱。
So, yes, otters are cute.
但你知道有种巨型河獭吗？
But did you know that there's the giant river otter?
我们之前聊过火鸡，可这种水獭，科学家直接叫它‘Lobos del Rio’，西班牙语里是‘河狼’的意思，能长到近一米八高。
You know, we talked about turkeys earlier, but there is this otter that scientists literally call Lobos del Rio, which is Spanish for river wolf, and that can grow up to five feet ten inches.
真的假的。
No.
想象一下，你正纠结在三真一假游戏里要不要加个冷知识，它就那么盯着你。
So imagine that thing staring you down while you contemplate the ethics of adding a bonus fact in a round of three facts.
天哪。
Wow.
这简直就是噩梦素材。
That's nightmare fuel right there.
没错。
Truly.
是的
Yeah.
你知道吗，还有关于短吻鳄的另一个冷知识——你可能以为只有水獭会跳舞，就是我们之前听到的那个有点儿尴尬的、它们拉屎时跳舞交朋友的事儿。
You know, but here's another fact about alligators, which is that you maybe thought that otters were the only ones who could dance after we heard that, you know, borderline inappropriate fact about them dancing when they go poo in order to make friends.
这个播客到底评了几星啊？
What is this podcast rated anyway?
但短吻鳄的舞蹈可比那文明多了，适合全家一起听。
But the alligator dance is way more more appropriate for family listening.
对吧？
Right?
因为它们跳舞是为了找对象。
Because they dance to find love.
当雄性短吻鳄想找伴侣时，会在水里快速晃动身体，让整个沼泽都跟着震动，还会激起一串串水花，看起来就像喷泉一样漂亮。
When a male alligator is looking for a partner, it'll shake its body in the water real fast, sending vibrations through the swamp, and it will create little spouts of water that look like a fancy fountain.
最后这一点还没被证实，但有些科学家猜测，它们说不定还会唱ABBA的歌。
And this last part is uncorroborated, but some scientists think that they might also sing Abba songs.
嘿。
Hey.
有点小动作来带动大趋势，这没什么不对。
There's nothing wrong with a little movement to create a movement.
对。
Mhmm.
太棒了。
Incredible work.
好的。
Alright.
亚历克斯，这一轮里有哪些事实让你印象特别深？
Alex, what facts stood out to you from this round?
嗯，首先我挺喜欢所有那些笑话的。
Well, I mean, I liked all the jokes, first of all.
我一直好奇鳄鱼和短吻鳄到底有什么区别，这次总算弄明白了。
I have always wondered what the difference was between alligators and crocodiles, so that was cool to learn.
能帮上忙我真的很开心。
I'm so happy to help.
你有任何需要都尽管说。
Just whatever you need.
很高兴我们能帮上忙。
I'm so glad we were able to help.
而且它们唯一共同生活的地方是在佛罗里达。
And that the only place where they both live together is in Florida.
我本来应该能猜到的，还有它们跳舞是为了求偶。
I mean, I guess I could have guessed that, but and that they danced to mate.
这还挺有意思的。
That was pretty cool.
至于水獭，它们的咬合力和熊一样强。
And then for otters, they have the same bite force as bears.
这太惊人了。
That's crazy.
它们的毛会浮在水面上。
Their fur floats.
这真的挺可爱的。
That's really cute.
五英尺长的是什么来着？
And a five foot long what was it?
五英尺。
Five feet
长水？
long water?
十。
10.
比我还要高呢。
That's taller than me.
这简直太离谱了。
Like, that's crazy.
我也是。
Me too.
一米七八。
Five ten.
要是美国男性，他们会直接说六英尺。
If that was an American male, they'd just say six foot.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
你这么说，我也没办法。
I mean, you got me.
我实际一米六，但我说一米六二。
I'm, like, five three, but I say five four.
所以。
So
太不可思议了。
Incredible.
好吧。
Okay.
亚历克斯，这关挺难的，但该给这一轮打分了。
Alex, this is tough, but it is time to award a point for this micro round.
评分标准完全凭感觉，全由你说了算。
The criteria are totally subjective and totally up to you.
你学到什么新东西了吗？
Did you learn some new things?
哪个知识点会让你印象最深？
What fact is gonna stick with you?
你给分吧，但别告诉我们给了谁。
Please award a point, but don't tell us who it's going to.
你决定好了吗？
Have you made your decision?
我选好了。
I have.
完美。
Perfect.
保密哦，马上回来。
Keep it secret, and we'll be right back.
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Plus, you'll get to do virtual hangs with me and the crew and get discounts on merch.
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谢谢。
Thanks.
砰。
Boom.
砰。
Boom.
砰。
Boom.
砰。
Boom.
砰。
Boom.
啪。
Smash.
砰。
Boom.
休息。
Rest.
好的。
Alright.
我们回来了，接下来是第三轮——超级隐蔽战。
We're back, and it's time for our third round, the super stealthy
动起来。
Move us.
潜行突袭。
Sneak attack.
这一轮是即兴挑战，辩手们得当场回应一个突发题目。
This is our improvised round where debaters have to respond to a challenge on the spot.
今天的题目是：秘密握手。
Today's challenge is secret handshake.
你们得设计一个属于你们阵营的秘密握手动作。
We want you to invent a secret handshake inspired by your side.
可能是你们和动物之间的握手方式，也可能是在认同你们立场的人之间使用的握手。
Maybe this is a handshake you do with the animal itself, or maybe it's a handshake to do with other humans who appreciate your side.
我们不在乎。
We don't care.
你说了算。
It's up to you.
来教教我们这个握手是怎么做的。
Please teach us how to do this handshake.
这样说得通吗，李和安迪？
Does this make sense, Lee and Andy?
是的。
Yes.
没错。
It does.
完全没问题。
Totally.
好的，李。
Alright, Lee.
这次我们先从你开始。
We're gonna start with you this time.
请教教我们你们对付短吻鳄的独家握手方式吧。
Please teach us your top secret handshake for alligators.
好的。
Okay.
我的独家握手叫作‘短吻鳄翻滚’，这玩意儿还真是真实存在的。
My top secret handshake is called the alligator death roll, which is a real thing.
短吻鳄翻滚，就是一种危险的旋转动作，短吻鳄用它来制服、淹死并撕碎猎物。
The alligator death roll, it's like this dangerous spinning maneuver that alligators use to subdue, drown, and dismember their prey.
所以这个秘密握手，其实跟短吻鳄翻滚非常像。
So in the in this secret handshake, it's actually very similar to an alligator death roll.
就是我一把抓住你，然后咱们跳进泳池，一起转圈。
So, like, I grab you, and then we jump in the pool, and we spin.
转圈。
We spin.
转圈。
We spin.
我唯一不做的就是制服、淹死或者撕碎对方。
The only thing I don't do is subdue, drown, or dismember.
我们从泳池出来，就完事了，挺好的。
And we get out of the pool That's and sweet.
然后，就这样了。
Then, you know, that's it.
真是个绝妙的握手礼。
Great secret handshake.
很高兴你没真的把人撕碎。
I'm glad you're not dismembering anyone.
是的。
Yeah.
不客气。
You're welcome.
你说到死亡翻滚的时候，我还真有点担心。
I was worried when you said death roll.
你懂的。
You know?
我知道。
I know.
我知道。
I know.
很多人都是这样。
A lot of people are.
我教他们握手时，经常被拒绝。
When I try to teach them the handshake, get a lot of no's.
这可能只是因为
That might just be a
品牌问题，这可能是个品牌问题。
branding That might be a branding issue.
是的。
Yeah.
你说得对。
You're right.
这确实是个品牌问题。
That is a branding issue.
这不公平。
It's not fair.
你觉得能给它想个新名字吗？
Do you think you can come up with a new name for it?
鳄鱼不会把你撕碎的这个角色。
The alligator won't dismember you role.
哦，太好了。
Oh, great.
完美。
Perfect.
我喜欢这个。
I love it.
好的。
Okay.
安迪，该你了。
Andy, it is your turn.
你会怎么用一个秘密手势来致敬水獭呢？
How would you honor otters with a secret handshake?
对。
Yeah.
我管它叫‘喋喋不休的靠近’。
I call it the the chatty so close.
你知道，水獭有大约十几种不同的叫声，所以我们这个手势也设计成十二个步骤。
You see, you know, otters have around a dozen different calls, so that's why we're gonna have around 12 steps to this handshake.
最后的环节是，你们要牵着手，然后一起睡着，因为水獭睡觉时会牵着手，这样就不会在情感上和身体上分开。
But how it's going to end is you're just gonna hold the person's hand and you're gonna fall asleep together because otters sleep by holding hands, so they don't drift off both emotionally and physically.
这太暖心了。
That's so sweet.
你现在就要教我们全部十二个步骤吗？
Are you gonna teach us all 12 steps right now?
对。
Yeah.
先伸出一只手，再用另一只手，然后做我们叫‘朋友翻滚’的动作。
You put your hand out, and then you put the other hand, and then you would do what we call the friend roll.
所以不是去扯你肩膀、制服你、把你拆了，而是简单地转个圈，玩一会儿就行。
So instead of tearing your shoulder and trying to subdue and dismember you, you just kind of do si do for a little bit.
还有九个步骤，做完就一起睡着了。
Sounds And there's nine more steps, and then you fall asleep.
听起来不错。
Sounds great.
我喜欢小睡一会儿。
I love a nap.
好。
Okay.
亚历克斯，想想那些超棒的握手方式。
Alex, think about those incredible handshakes.
哪一个看起来更有趣？
Does one seem more fun to do?
哪一个更容易让人记住？
Does one seem more memorable?
哪一个你特别想跟朋友或者对手来试试？
Does one seem like you really wanna use it with your friends or your enemies?
选一个给你加分，但跟往常一样，别声张。
Choose a side to award a point, but as always, keep it hush-hush.
你决定了吗？
Have you made your decision?
决定了。
Yes.
太好了。
Great.
那么，该进行最后一轮了。
Then it's time for our final round.
最后六位。
The final six.
这一轮，每支队伍只能用六个词来概括己方的辉煌。
In this round, each team will have just six words to sum up the glory of their side.
安迪，该你用六个词助你取胜了。
Andy, time to float your way to victory with six more words.
他们连短吻鳄都吃。
They eat alligators.
争论结束。
Argument over.
再见。
Bye.
好的，李。
Okay, Lee.
安迪，用你最后六个词全力以赴吧。
Alligive it your all with your final six.
安迪可能就是那只巨大的水獭。
Andy might be that giant otter.
没错，真的有这回事。
Oh, it's true.
这是一档我们看不到画面的播客。
This is a podcast we can't see.
安迪到底是不是一只巨大的水獭？
Is Andy, in fact, a giant otter?
一米五到一米八左右。
Five ten or six foot.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
是的。
Yeah.
说不定我真是给大水獭做公关的。
Maybe I do work PR for Big Otter.
所以。
So
好的。
Okay.
亚历克斯，你已经听到了最后的发言。
Alex, you have heard the final words.
再好好想一想，给你心目中的前六名投出最后一票。
Please think about them one more time and award your final point for the final six.
你决定好了吗？
Have you made your decision?
决定了。
Yes.
很好。
Excellent.
好。
Alright.
算一下总分。
Tally up those points.
准备好宣布哪支队伍是终极冠军了吗？
Are you ready to declare one team the smashboom best?
我准备好了。
I am.
天哪。
Oh my goodness.
请来点鼓声。
Drum roll, please.
获胜的是
And the winner is
水獭。
Otters.
对。
Yes.
不对。
No.
不对。
No.
对。
Yes.
这尊雕像没白立。
The statue wasn't in vain.
所以，亚历克斯，是什么时刻让海獭最终胜出的？
So, Alex, what was the moment that decided it for otters?
其实是最后六分。
Actually, the final six.
在此之前比分一直是平的。
It was tied until then.
哦。
Oh.
哇。
Woah.
天哪。
OMG.
所以安迪当了那只巨大的水獭，真的让你信服了。
So Andy being that giant otter really convinced you.
对吧？
Right?
那可真吓人。
It was terrifying.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
你这是故意设局给我啊
And you set me up
用威胁的方式。
with threatened.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
我当时有点糊涂。
I was just a little confused.
没错。
Right.
不管用什么办法。
Whatever it takes.
哦，太棒了。
Oh, amazing.
我的意思是，李，你表现得太好了。
I mean, Lee, you were so great.
你的声音简直太棒了。
Your voice is absolutely wonderful.
我特别喜欢你整个人的风格和态度，还有你聊鳄鱼时那股劲儿，真的超酷。
I love that your whole, just personality and demeanor intake on the debate as well as, yeah, alligators are cool as heck.
谢谢你。
Thank you.
你太贴心了。
That's so sweet.
安迪，你让这个观众真正感受到水獭的魅力，我怎么夸都不为过。
Andy, I can't say enough about the way that you made otters palpable for this audience.
简直太出色了。
It was incredible.
很多人一想到水獭的粪便味道，就怎么也挥之不去。
I mean, lot of people just can't get that smell out of their nose from the poop.
但你居然让我们差点都忘了这回事。
But you managed to make us even borderline forget it.
凭借你柔和的嗓音、出色的逻辑和敏锐的幽默感，你这次真的赢了。
Like, with your dulcet tones, your incredible reasoning, and your sharp wit, you really won this.
别让任何人告诉你你没赢。
And don't let anyone ever tell you you didn't.
你描述得太生动了。
You're so you're so descriptive.
我可能得重新考虑一下我的想法了。
I might I might change my mind, you know.
不好意思。
Excuse me.
别被他那种拐弯抹角的语气骗了。
Don't don't fall for his passive aggressive tone.
你没感觉到吗？
Are you not picking up on that?
那只会让我在写的时候觉得爽。
That would only make me feel good in writing.
天哪。
My gosh.
我演技不错。
I'm a good actor.
是的，李。
Yes, Lee.
你确实不错。
You are.
总算啊。
Finally.
好了，今天的辩论就到这里。
Well, that is it for today's debate battle.
亚历克斯宣布海狸是冠军。
Alex crowned otters the smashboom best.
那你呢？
But what about you?
前往 smashboom.org 投票，告诉我们你认为谁赢了。
Head to smashboom.org and vote to tell us who you think won.
本期节目由我、莫莉·布卢姆、圣塔·托顿和马克·桑切斯制作。
This episode was produced by me, Molly Bloom, Santa Totten, and Mark Sanchez.
音效设计由蕾切尔·布里兹负责。
We had sound design by Rachel Breeze.
音频工程由大卫·阿梅林提供支持，旁白由马利·福耶尔韦克尔·奥托担任。
We had engineering help from David Amelin, and our announcer is Marley Foyeurwerker Auto.
特别感谢奥斯汀·克罗斯和泰勒·考夫曼。
We wanna give a special thanks to Austin Cross and Taylor Kaufman.
李，今天你有什么人想特别提到吗？
Lee, is there anyone you wanna give a shout out to today?
我想感谢在场的每一个人，你们都表现得非常好。
I just wanna give a shout out to everyone here for being great.
哦，李，你也很棒。
Oh, Lee, you're great.
你呢，安迪？
How about you, Andy?
有什么特别要感谢的人吗？
Any special shout outs?
是的。
Yeah.
我想特别感谢一下我的两只狗，多蒂和弗兰基，它们在我房间里全程都没叫。
I'd like to give, one shout out to Dotty and Frankie, my two dogs who decided not to bark while being in the room with me.
另外，当然也要感谢这里的团队，我现在都三……哦天哪。
And, also, I wanna give a shout out to, of course, the crew here because I am now three and o Oh
我的天啊。
my goodness.
小心点。
That's Watch out.
上次我赢了SmashBoom最佳奖的时候，被屏蔽了。
Last time I won smashboom best, was shadowbanned.
亚历克斯，你有什么特别想感谢的人吗？
Alex, do you wanna give any special thanks?
感谢我父母，他们特别棒，一直支持我。
My parents for being awesome and supportive.
谢谢我哥哥，能包容我的胡闹，还有我的狗，她太可爱了。
My brother for tolerating my shenanigans and my dog because she's cute.
真暖心。
Aw.
没错。
Mhmm.
在结束之前，我们来问问马西娜，她觉得孩子和家长的辩论谁会赢。
Before we go, let's check-in and see who Maxine thinks should win the kids versus parents debate.
我觉得孩子会赢，因为他们视力更好，十岁以下学东西更快。
I think kids would win because they have better eyesight and you can learn more things if you're under the age of 10.
如果你年龄在13到18岁之间，想当评委，或者无论什么年龄，有想法想办一场激烈的辩论，欢迎上smashboom.org/contact联系我们。
If you're between the ages of 13 and 18 and you'd like to be a judge or if you're any age and you have an idea for a knockdown drag out debate, head to smashboom.org slash contact and drop us a line.
如果你喜欢这个节目，想让它继续下去，就去 smartypass.org 订阅吧。
And if you're a fan of the show and wanna keep it going, head to smartypass.org to subscribe.
下周我们回来，带来全新的《SmashBoom》最佳对决——洋葱vs玉米。
We'll be back next week with a new smashboom best episode, onions versus corn.
再见。
See you.
拜拜。
Bye.
我先走啦。
I'm out of here.
回头见，短吻鳄。
Later, alligator.
等一下。
Wait.
我能再说一遍水獭吗？
Can I say otters again?
我觉得我听起来不够兴奋。
I feel like I didn't sound excited.
不过我倒是好奇，这会不会有什么原因。
I wonder if there's a reason for that though.
对。
Yeah.
不用了。
No.
你告诉我你什么时候方便。
Tell me what time you want.
我们先静音李，让你独自做半小时吧。
Let's mute Lee and just let you cook for half an hour.
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