洋葱与玉米

复合地板。

Laminata.

大脑与宇宙。

Brains on universe.

批判性思考比以往任何时候都更重要。

Thinking critically is more important than ever.

所以我们才打造了SmashBoom这个最好的节目。

That's why we make smashboom best.

我们希望每个孩子都能学会分辨有力的论点，识别逻辑谬误，但如果没有你的支持，这一切都无从谈起。

We want every kid to know how to spot a good argument and how to call out a logical fallacy, but none of it is possible without your support.

说实话，要是听众不支持我们，我们可能真的就没了。

Seriously, we could disappear if our listeners don't step up.

但这一点其实很简单。

But that part is easy.

只要加入Smarty Pass就行。

Just join Smarty Pass.

你可以免费收听无广告版本的节目，参与我们团队的专属线上活动，享受周边商品折扣，还有更多福利。

You'll get access to ad free versions of our shows, special online hangs with our crew, discounts on merch, and more.

而且你知道自己在帮助我们支付辩手、音效设计师、撰稿人等的报酬，这种感觉真的很棒。

Plus, you'll feel great knowing you're helping us pay our debaters, sound designers, writers, and more.

现在就前往 smartypass.org 加入吧。

Join now at smartypass.org.

谢谢。

Thank you.

接下来，节目正式开始。

Now it's showtime.

由《Brains on Universe》的原班人马打造，欢迎收听《Smash Boom Best》。

From the brains behind brains on, it's smash boom best.

专为有强烈观点的人打造的节目。

The show for people with big opinions.

大家好。

Hi.

我是莫莉·布卢姆，欢迎收听《 Smash Boom Best 》。

I'm Molly Bloom, and this is smash boom best.

这档节目里，我们会把两样东西凑在一起，然后请你来决定哪个更胜一筹。

The show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best.

今天我们要比较的是两种晚餐好物，它们都能烤、能炒、也能拌沙拉，但只有一个能称得上是终极赢家。

Today, two dinnertime delights, both are great, grilled, sauteed, and mixed in salad, but only one is the smashboom best.

今天的对决是洋葱对玉米。

It's onions versus corn.

为洋葱队出战的是布莱恩·克维特科。

Here to slice and dice for team onion is Brian Kvitko.

他是佐治亚大学的副教授，也是一位真正的洋葱研究专家。

He's an associate professor at the University of Georgia and an actual onion researcher.

没错。

That's right.

而我今天就是要告诉你，为什么洋葱能让你泪流满面。

And I'm here to tell you why onions are gonna make you cry.

为玉米队鸣响号角的是杰森·华莱士。

And sounding the horn for team corn, it's Jason Wallace.

他同样是佐治亚大学的副教授，也是一位真正的玉米研究专家。

He's also an associate professor at the University of Georgia and an actual corn researcher.

莫莉，我觉得玉米这次稳赢了。

Now, Molly, I think corn has this in the bin.

我觉得洋葱只能哭着回家了。

I think onions is gonna go home in tears.

哦。

Oh.

哦。

Oh.

现在有请来自蒙大拿州博兹曼的朱比利来宣布最终胜出的蔬菜。

And here to crown the very best veggie is Jubilee from Bozeman, Montana.

朱比利会骑马，热爱桶赛，喜欢做黏土动画，还会弹吉他，她妈妈说她整个人就像一场派对。

Jubilee rides horses, loves barrel racing, does claymation, plays guitar, and has been described by her mom as a party in a person.

嗨，朱比利。

Hi, Jubilee.

嗨，莫莉。

Hi, Molly.

朱比利，什么是绕桶赛？

So Jubilee, what is a barrel race?

绕桶赛其实就是一种特别快的马术比赛，你和你的马要按照特定路线快速绕过三个桶。

Barrel race is basically just a really fast rodeo event where you and your horse kinda just maneuver around three barrels in a certain barrel pattern.

哇。

Wow.

这真是太酷了。

That is really cool.

你每次比赛都骑同一匹马吗？

Do you ride the same horse every time you do that?

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

我骑的是她。

I do.

她叫蓝蓝。

Her name is Blue.

个子虽然不高，但跑得特别快，简直是世界上最可爱的马。

She's actually pretty short, but she's really fast and she's the cutest horse ever.

那真是太棒了。

Oh, that's awesome.

对啊。

Yeah.

明白了。

Okay.

你跑那么快的时候，会害怕吗？

So when you're going really fast, are you scared?

还是觉得特别兴奋？

Are you excited?

那时候你心里是什么感觉？

What are you feeling in that moment?

说实话，我大部分时间都挺害怕的，因为Blue一跑起来，颠得特别厉害。

Honestly, I'm scared most of the time because whenever Blue goes, she's really bumpy when she gallops.

所以马镫经常掉，我有时候还会摔下来。

So usually my stirrups fall out, and I sometimes fall.

不过

But

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

所以你就是拼命抓紧不放吗？

So you're just, like, holding on as tight as you can?

是的。

Yeah.

差不多吧。

Pretty much.

哇。

Wow.

你真勇敢。

You are very brave.

现在跟我说说你的黏土动画视频吧。

Now tell me about your claymation videos.

你用黏土做些什么呢？

What are you claymating?

我通常就用黏土捏些小人，然后配上图片。

I usually just make little people out of the clay, and then I use just pictures.

拍一张照片，动一下，再拍一张，就这样反复，最后把所有画面拼起来，就做成一个很酷的视频。

And I take a picture, then move it, then take a picture and stuff, and then put it all together and it makes this cool video.

看起来就像活的一样。

It makes it look alive.

这真的太棒了。

That's really, really cool.

所以，Jubilee，你一定听过很多次SmashBoomBest吧。

So, Jubilee, you've listened to smashboom best a lot.

是的。

Yes.

你对今天的创作者们有什么建议吗？

What advice do you have for our deeders today?

尽量做得搞笑一点。

Just make it as funny as possible.

我喜欢喜剧，也喜欢历史。

I love comedy, and I love history.

多做点历史题材的内容。

Do a lot of history too.

这两方面都可以做。

Can do on both counts.

对。

Yeah.

我觉得我能做到很棒。

I think I can Excellent.

至于

As

朱莉会把冠军颁给科恩，还是彻底站队洋葱呢？

Will Julie crown Korn the winner, or will she go all in for onions?

咱们看看吧。

Let's see.

首先，来说明一下规则。

First, here are the rules.

每场辩论共有四轮： greatness 宣言、微轮、突袭环节，以及最后的六秒陈述。

Every debate consists of four rounds, the declaration of greatness, the micro round, the sneak attack, and the final six.

每轮结束后，我们的评委朱比利会把分数给表现最出色的队伍，但她的评判结果会保密，直到辩论全部结束才公布。

After each round, our judge, Jubilee, will award points to the team that impresses her the most, but she'll keep her decisions top secret until the end of the debate.

各位听众，我们也希望你们来当评委。

Listeners, we want you to judge too.

听的时候记下你们的评分。

Mark down your points as you listen.

节目结束后，上我们的网站 smashboom.org，投出你认为的胜者。

At the end of the show, head to our website, smashboom.org, and vote for whichever team you think won.

好的。

Okay.

杰森、布莱恩和朱比利，你们准备好了吗？

Jason, Brian, and Jubilee, are you ready?

准备好了。

Yep.

我准备好了。

I'm ready.

没错。

Yeah.

那现在开始第一轮

Then it's time for the

greatness宣言

Declaration of Greatness.

在这一轮中，我们的辩手将提出一个精心设计、引人入胜的论点，支持他们的立场。

In this round, our debaters will present a well crafted, immersive argument in favor of their side.

接着，每人有三十秒的时间反驳对方的观点。

Then they'll each have thirty seconds to rebut their opponents' arguments.

我们抛了硬币，杰森，你先来。

We flipped a coin, and, Jason, you are up first.

现在，请大家仔细听听科恩队的论点。

Time to lend an ear to team Korn's arguments.

玉米既是我的热情所在，也是我的职业。

Corn is both my passion and my career.

我已经研究玉米将近十五年了。

I've been studying corn for nearly fifteen years.

每年夏天，我都会种好几种不同的玉米。

I grow a bunch of different types every single summer.

我还用不同颜色的玉米粒拼出了一幅DNA的肖像。

I even made a portrait of DNA out of different colored corn kernels.

我本来想说没人比我更爱玉米了，但事实是……

I was gonna say no one loves corn more than me, but here's the thing.

人人都爱玉米。

Everybody loves corn.

首先，吃法多到数不清。

For starters, there are endless ways to eat it.

可以做成玉米饼、薯片、麦片、炖菜、汤、面包、玉米碴、玉米粥。

In tortillas, chips, cereals, stews, soups, breads, hominy, grits.

玉米就像生日派对后满地的亮片，哪儿都是。

Corn is like glitter after a birthday party.

哪儿都能见到它。

It's everywhere.

但再怎么讲，也比不上新鲜的玉米棒子，抹上蛋黄酱配辣椒，或者黄油加一点点盐。

But you can't beat fresh corn on the cob, smothered in mayo and chili or butter with a smidge of salt.

它富含营养、膳食纤维，还特别好吃。

It's packed with nutrients, fiber, and just plain old deliciousness.

难怪玉米能支撑起整个文明。

No wonder corn is the basis of entire civilizations.

玉米帮助古代中美洲的阿兹特克人、玛雅人和奥尔梅克人建立了他们的文化。

Corn helped people build cultures like the Aztec, the Maya, and the Olmecs in ancient Mesoamerica.

大多数美洲原住民文化都认为玉米是神赐的礼物，许多文化甚至专门供奉玉米神。

Most Native American cultures viewed and still view corn as a gift from the gods, and many of these cultures had an actual corn god.

你听说过洋葱神吗？

Have you ever heard of an onion god?

你大概只能听到有人祈祷别让洋葱辣得流泪，或者求神把洋葱味从他们那块贵重的胡桃木砧板上洗掉。

Probably the closest you'll get is people praying to get their eyes to stop watering or to get the smell of onion juice out of their expensive walnut cutting board.

哦，天哪。

Oh, no.

又来了。

Not again.

该换一个新的砧板了。

Time to get a new cutting board.

玉米还像一道彩虹。

Corn is also a rainbow.

你可能熟悉黄色的玉米，但其实还有红色、橙色、绿色、蓝色、紫色、棕色、黑色、白色和粉色的。

You're probably familiar with yellow corn, but there's also red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, brown, black, white, and pink.

我想让你好好想想这个问题：

And I want you to ask yourself this burning hot question.

你能想象一个没有爆米花的电影院吗？

Can you imagine a world without popcorn at the movies?

欢迎来到电影院。

Welcome to the movies.

请出示票。

Tickets, please.

这是我第一次看电影。

This is my first movie.

这是他的第一部电影。

It's his first movie.

真的吗？

Wow.

你第一次看电影啊。

Your first movie.

这什么味儿啊？

What's that smell?

这可是经典电影小吃，当然了。

Why, that's a classic movie snack, of course.

味道特别特别难闻。

It smelled really, really bad.

来，咱们买一包吧。

Here, let's buy a bag.

不买一包大家最爱的电影零食，怎么看电影啊。

You can't watch a movie without a bag of everyone's favorite movie snack.

请给我一袋洋葱。

One bag of onions, please.

好的。

Of course.

马上给您准备。

Coming right up.

哎哟。

Ew.

我觉得我不太喜欢去看电影。

I don't think I like going to the movies.

你错失了乐趣。

You're missing out.

不是，是比利的妈妈。

No, Billy's mom.

他没错过什么。

He's not missing out.

爆米花让人流泪，唯一的情况就是你吃光了。

The only time popcorn makes you cry is when you run out.

而洋葱呢，它会释放化学物质，让人眼睛刺痛、流泪。

Meanwhile, onions are famous for releasing chemicals that make our eyes sting and tear up.

有谁会真心支持一种专门对付我们的蔬菜呢？

How can anyone honestly get behind a vegetable that's out to get us?

玉米已经养活人类九千多年了。

Corn has been feeding humans for over nine thousand years.

它曾支撑起整个帝国。

It helped build empires.

它有自己的神，还有属于自己的彩虹。

It has its own gods and its own rainbow.

它出现在你的麦片里、玉米片上、电影院的膝盖上。

It's in your cereal, your tortilla chips, your lap at the movie theater.

现在，它很可能就在你身体里。

It's most likely inside your body right now.

那洋葱呢？

And onions?

洋葱简直是在跟我们的眼睛开战。

Onions are out here declaring war on our eyeballs.

玉米可不会这样。

Corn doesn't do that.

玉米绝对不可能这样。

Corn would never do that.

玉米只是默默出现，从不求回报，最多就希望有点黄油。

Corn just shows up, and it asks for nothing in return except maybe a little butter.

这不只是食物。

That's not just food.

这简直是挚友。

That's a best friend.

永远的好朋友。

Best friends forever.

更像是玉米朋友永远在一起。

More like corn friends forever.

朱比利，你对杰森的观点印象最深的是什么？

Jubilee, what stood out to you about Jason's argument?

可能是玉米有这么多不同颜色。

Probably how many different colored corns there are.

我都不知道原来有这么多品种。

I didn't know there are that many.

我以前只见过紫色和黄色的。

I only I only seen like the purple and yellow.

原来玉米有这么多类型，我真没想到。

I don't know there are so many.

而且它已经养活人类九千多年了。

And that it's been feeding people for over nine thousand years.

我觉得这特别了不起。

I thought that was pretty cool.

这确实挺厉害的。

That is pretty cool.

好的。

Okay.

对。

Yeah.

布莱恩，你有三十秒时间来反驳玉米的论点。

Brian, you get thirty seconds to chop down corn's arguments.

你的倒计时现在开始。

Your time starts now.

所以你是想聊味道吗？

So you wanna talk about flavor?

洋葱才是风味的关键。

Onions are where the flavor comes from.

洋葱跟什么都配得来。

Onions play well with everything.

正是它让食物变得美味。

It's what makes food taste good.

拿玉米来说，去掉黄油，去掉糖，你还剩下什么？

Take corn, take away that butter, take away that sugar, what are you left with?

只剩下寡淡无味。

Just bland.

事实上，国内种植的大部分玉米根本不是给人吃的。

In fact, most corn that's grown in the country isn't even for people to eat.

而是用作动物饲料。

It's for animal feed.

从栽培历史来看，洋葱是人类最早驯化的蔬菜之一。

And in terms of how old they are, onions are one of the very first domesticated vegetables ever.

所以我觉得它们比玉米更胜一筹。

So I think they've got corned beet.

还有百里香。

And thyme.

新鲜的玉米并不总是淡而无味。

Fresh corn isn't always bland.

我直接从地里摘下来就吃，不加黄油、不加盐，也不用煮，味道好极了。

I eat it straight out of the field without any butter or salt or even cooking it, and it's absolutely delicious.

说到历史，玉米可是几千年来支撑起多个帝国的粮食。

As for age, remember, corn built empires for thousands upon thousands of years.

在美洲的许多文化中，它都是‘三姐妹’农作物之一。

It was part of the three sisters of many cultures in The Americas.

可没人单靠洋葱就建立起一个帝国。

No one built an empire out of onions.

不好意思。

Sorry.

好的。

Okay.

我想布莱恩应该还有很多话要说。

Well, I'm guessing Brian has a lot more to say.

他打算让对手哭出来，咱们先插个广告。

He's gonna try to make the competition cry, and we're gonna take a quick break.

广告结束后马上开始。

So that's right after this.

最棒。

Best.

碾压。

Smash.

碾压。

Smash.

最棒。

Best.

我们回来了。

We're back.

刚才聊了玉米，现在该彻底聊聊洋葱了。

We heard all about corn, and now it's time to go all in for onions.

Brian，你来开始吧。

Take it away, Brian.

同学们，安静一下。

Settle down, class.

大家安静。

Settle down.

欢迎各位来到洋葱学101课程。

Welcome everyone to Onionology one zero one.

我是布莱恩·克维科教授。

I am professor Brian Kvitko.

今天我们要做解剖实验。

Today, we'll be doing dissections.

我们将一层层揭开事实，找出洋葱为何远胜于玉米的秘密。

We're going to peel back the layers of facts and get at the secret of why onions are so far superior to corn.

现在拿起手术刀，在你们的实验洋葱上轻轻划一道口子，然后开始剥皮。

Now take your scalpels, make a small nick in your laboratory onion, and we peel.

就像拆开一份小礼物一样。

It's like unwrapping a little gift.

同学们，你们看到了什么？

Now, class, what do you see?

一个洋葱？

An onion?

惊喜吧。

Surprise.

对。

Yes.

没错，是个稍微小一点的洋葱。

An onion, albeit a slightly smaller one.

咱们再剥一层。

Let's peel another scale.

顺便说一下，这些层就叫鳞片。

That's what these layers are called, by the way.

其实，你们可能会惊讶地发现，这些鳞片其实是变形的叶子。

And, actually, you might be surprised to learn that scales are modified leaves.

没错，我们又露出了一个更小的洋葱。

And, yes, we have revealed an even smaller onion.

哎呀。

Oh.

不过我得老实跟你们说，同学们。

But I'm not gonna lie to you, class.

洋葱里面还是洋葱，但正因如此，洋葱才这么特别。

It's onions all the way down, but that's part of what makes onions special.

事实上，古埃及人就是因为这个原因，非常推崇这种蔬菜。

In fact, the ancient Egyptians revered this vegetable for that very reason.

他们看到洋葱里套着洋葱，再套着洋葱，又套着洋葱，把它当作永恒生命的象征，也许这就是为什么洋葱会被用作葬礼供品，和法老一起埋进陵墓。

They saw the onion with an onion with an onion with an onion as a symbol of eternal life, and that may be why onions were used as funeral offerings and buried in tombs with kings.

这引出了另一个话题。

That brings up another point.

人类种植和食用洋葱的历史已经超过五千年了。

People have been growing and eating onions for more than five thousand years.

它是人类最早栽培的作物之一，如今洋葱也是全球种植最广泛的蔬菜之一。

It's one of humanity's earliest cultivated crops, and today, onions are one of the most widely grown vegetables in the world.

地球上每一个饮食传统都会用到葱属植物，比如洋葱、大蒜、小葱和香葱。

Every culinary tradition on earth uses alliums like onions, garlic, shallots, chives.

人们对它们简直爱不释手。

People can't get enough of them.

明白了。

Okay.

咱们再剥一层鳞片，看看会露出什么。

Let's peel off another scale and see what we get.

洋葱。

Onion.

哦，原来如此。

Oh, okay.

有些人哭了，这完全正常。

Some of you are crying, totally normal.

剩下的切菜步骤在流水下进行。

Do the rest of your cutting under running water.

这样会有帮助。

That'll help.

切之前把洋葱放进冰箱冷藏几分钟，或者微波炉加热二十到三十秒，都能减少流泪。

Also, chilling the onions in the freezer for a couple of minutes before you chop can reduce tears or putting them into the microwave for twenty to thirty seconds.

顺便说一下，眼睛的刺痛感其实是化学反应。

By the way, that burning in your eyes, it's chemistry.

洋葱被切开时会释放化学物质，这些物质结合后生成挥发性气体，也就是带来美味风味的来源。

When onions are cut, they release chemicals that combine to make volatile gas and all of those delicious flavors.

这种气体会飘到眼睛里，和眼里的天然水分反应生成硫酸，造成刺痛。

That gas floats up to your eyes and reacts with the natural moisture in your eyes to make sulfuric acid, which burns.

对人来说不太舒服，但对洋葱来说，这是绝佳的自我保护机制。

Not great for us, but it's a fantastic defense mechanism for the onions.

这能阻止许多小动物挖出并吃掉洋葱球茎，而洋葱当然不希望这样。

It stops many a critter from digging up and eating the onion bulb, which, of course, the onion would not want.

我们之所以忍着，是因为吃洋葱值得。

And we put up with it because eating onions is worth it.

吃洋葱还与降低癌症风险、改善整体健康、减少血栓和降低血压有关。

There are also links between eating onions and reduced risks of cancer, better human health, reduced blood clots, and lower blood pressure.

而且，它们味道很棒，这点我们稍后再细说。

Plus, they taste great, which we'll get more to in a second.

但首先，我们再剥掉最后一层皮。

But first, let's remove one last scale.

不用猜，我们知道接下来要做什么。

No surprise what we're going to wait.

这是什么？

What is this?

我从来没见过这种东西

How did this I've never seen

等等。

Wait.

什么？

What?

那是什么？

What is that?

开玩笑的。

Just kidding.

又是一颗洋葱。

It's more onion.

哎呀。

Ugh.

真的假的？

Seriously?

不过话说回来，洋葱这东西光明正大，没什么好隐瞒的。

But, hey, onions have nothing to hide.

很多食谱都用洋葱，因为它们浓郁、辛辣又带点甜味，能让菜肴活起来。

So many recipes call for onions because their bold, pungent, and sweet flavors give life to dishes.

你可以炒它、焦糖化它、腌制它，或者直接生吃，放在汉堡上增添一口爽脆。

You can saute them, caramelize them, pickle them, or eat them raw on a burger for a zesty crunch.

玉米就不一样了，经常当填充料用，还得靠加盐、黄油、糖，甚至洋葱来提味。

Unlike corn, which gets used as a lot of filler material, then you have to gussy up with salt or butter or sugar or, hey, even onions to make them taste good.

明白了。

Okay.

课到此结束。

Class is over.

大家把切好的洋葱都倒进这个锅里。

Everybody dump your chopped onion bits into this pot.

等一下。

Wait.

教授，这该不会是您设的圈套吧

Professor, was this just a trick to get us

是为了给你准备食材吗？

to prep food for you?

而且每个人都能得A。

And everyone's getting an a.

太棒了。

Yippee.

好了。

Alright.

谁想拿额外学分？

Who wants extra credit?

我们来做洋葱圈。

We're gonna make onion rings.

好啊。

Yay.

洋葱。

Onions.

太好了

Yay.

太棒了

Whoo hoo hoo.

哦

Oh

天哪

my gosh.

我好饿啊

I'm so hungry.

我真想吃点

I would love some

那些洋葱圈

of those onion rings.

朱比利，你印象最深的是

Jubilee, what stood out

你对布莱恩的论点有什么看法？

to you about Brian's argument?

我觉得最值得注意的是，把洋葱放在水下切可以减少流泪，冻过之后切也一样，这对我妈妈来说真的会很有帮助。

Probably that, like, running an onion underwater can help you not cry and freezing it helps you not cry because, I mean, that'd be really helpful for my mom, honestly.

我得告诉她这个方法。

I'm a tell her that.

是的。

Yeah.

这真是个超实用的小窍门。

Super life hack there.

好吧。

Okay.

杰森，该你来回应一下关于洋葱团队的论点了。

Jason, it is time for you to take a bite out of team onion's arguments.

你有三十秒时间反驳，现在开始计时。

You've got thirty seconds to rebut, and your time starts now.

好吧。

Okay.

洋葱就像俄罗斯套娃。

So onions are like ogres.

一层又一层。

They have layers.

又臭又有点恶心。

They're smelly, and they're kinda gross.

我们明白了。

We get it.

就算你的洋葱像古埃及的陪葬品一样象征着永恒，但谁都知道，放在台面上的洋葱根本不会永存。

But even if your matryoshka onions have been part of ancient Egyptian culture for eternal life, anyone who said an onion out on the counter knows it's not actually eternal.

它很快就坏掉，还特别臭。

It goes bad pretty fast, and it stinks when it does.

不过你倒是给了我最好的论据。

Meanwhile, you made the best argument for me.

洋葱在你的睾丸里制造硫酸。

Onions are making sulfuric acid in your balls.

说到这儿，我还用得着再多说吗？

Do I really need to say more after this point?

而且，洋葱从来都不是一道菜的主角。

And finally, onions never really are the star of a dish.

它们就像专业的配角。

They're like the professional sidekick.

无论什么主菜，它们都是永远的罗宾，陪在蝙蝠侠身边。

They're the eternal Robin to the Batman of whatever's going on.

还有时间。

And time.

科琳娜也是个配角，从不是主角。

Corinne is also a sidekick, never the star.

今天是配角对配角，但两个都是特别美味的配角。

Sidekick versus sidekick today, but both very delicious sidekicks.

好的。

Okay.

朱比利，该给分数了。

Jubilee, it is time to award some points.

请把一分给让你最认同的那句宣言，另一分给让你信服的反驳。

Please give one point to the declaration of greatness that you liked best and one point to the rebuttal that won you over.

你来定什么才算有说服力的论点。

You get to decide what makes a winning argument.

有没有哪一方让你学到了更多？

Did one team teach you more?

有没有哪一方让你垂涎三尺？

Did another make your mouth water?

把分数投出去，但别告诉我们你投给了谁。

Award your points, but don't tell us who they're going to.

朱莉，你决定好了吗？

Julie, have you made your decision?

对。

Yes.

很好。

Excellent.

布莱恩和杰森，你们俩到现在感觉怎么样？

Brian and Jason, how are you two feeling so far?

我感觉还不错。

I'm feeling pretty good.

关键在于味道。

It's all about the flavor.

我感觉也挺好。

I'm feeling pretty good.

我觉得布莱恩真该试试一些真正以玉米为主角的菜，比如玉米糊或者玉米粥之类的。

I also think Brian needs to actually try some things like grits or polenta or other things where corn is actually the star of the show.

那我完全同意，但你得试试不加黄油和盐的版本。

Oh, no no argument there, but try it without butter and salt.

呸。

Ew.

我觉得大多数洋葱也都是配黄油和盐吃的。

I would argue that most onions are also accompanied by butter and salt.

好的。

Okay.

该休息一下了。

It is time for a quick break.

再烤一根玉米，或者再切个甜洋葱吧。

Throw another cob on the grill or chop up another sweet onion.

我们马上回来，继续精彩对决。

And we'll be right back with more smashboom best.

你正在收听《辩论现场》，这里是激情、雄辩与令人惊叹的论战的家园。

You're listening to state of debate, home to rage and rhetoric and awe inspiring argumentation.

大家好，辩论爱好者们。

Hello, debate heads.