Snooker Club | WST’s Official Podcast - Chang Bingyu Wins His First Title! Zhao Xintong Goes No. 1 & Cheltenham Underway! 🌏 | S4E4 封面

Chang Bingyu Wins His First Title! Zhao Xintong Goes No. 1 & Cheltenham Underway! 🌏 | S4E4

Chang Bingyu Wins His First Title! Zhao Xintong Goes No. 1 & Cheltenham Underway! 🌏 | S4E4

本集简介

Snooker Club returns as Stephen Hendry, Mark Watson and Steven Hallworth look back on a dramatic Wuhan Open and the latest twists from the 2026/27 season! Chang Bingyu wins his maiden ranking title in Wuhan, producing an all-time clearance to defeat Zhao Xintong 10-7 in a thrilling final. The team reflect on Chang’s incredible run, his breakthrough victory and what could be next for the young star. Zhao Xintong becomes World No. 1 following his run to the final, ending Judd Trump’s two-year reign at the top. The trio discuss Zhao’s impressive run through the draw and his journey to the summit. Plus, Steven Hallworth has some very exciting personal news!

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Speaker 0

那么,放松一下,享受又一个下午的斯诺克比赛吧。

So settle back and enjoy another afternoon of snooker.

Speaker 0

试杆。

Test shot.

Speaker 0

这太特别了。

This is so special.

Speaker 1

太棒了。

Brilliant.

Speaker 1

精彩极了。

Fantastic.

Speaker 1

这会让他的步伐轻快起来。

And that'll put a little spring in a step.

Speaker 1

他做到了。

He's done it.

Speaker 2

这就是斯诺克俱乐部。

This is snooker club.

Speaker 1

这里是斯诺克俱乐部,

This is snooker club, the

Speaker 2

世界斯诺克巡回赛官方播客。

world snooker tour official podcast.

Speaker 2

大家好,欢迎来到斯诺克俱乐部。

Hello, and welcome to snooker club.

Speaker 2

在精彩的中国之旅之后,上海大师赛以及中国公开赛和武汉公开赛为这个赛季开了个好头,已经出现了不少冷门和惊喜。

After an amazing China swing, the Shanghai masters as well as the China and Wuhan Open have been the perfect start of the season with quite a few shocks and surprises already.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yes.

Speaker 1

张炳宇夺冠只是时间问题,不是吗?他在周末捧起了个人首个排名赛冠军奖杯。

It was only a matter of time, wasn't it, for Chang Bingyu who lifted his maiden ranking title over the weekend.

Speaker 1

这位新星完成了一次堪称经典的清台,以10比7击败赵心童,捧起武汉公开赛的奖杯。

The young star pulled off an all timer of a clearance to defeat Zhao Xintong ten seven and lift the Wuhan Open trophy.

Speaker 3

说到赵心童,尽管他在决赛中失利,但这位2025年世界冠军现在已经是世界第一,此前贾德·特鲁姆普占据榜首两年。

And speaking of Zhao Xintong, despite his loss in the final, the 2025 world champion is now the world number one after Judd Trump's two years at the top of the rankings.

Speaker 3

你现在收听的是斯诺克俱乐部。

You're listening to snooker club.

Speaker 2

过去两周最大的斯诺克新闻是史蒂文·霍尔沃斯有了孩子。

And the biggest snooker news of the last two weeks is Steven Hallworth has had a baby.

Speaker 2

嗯,

Well,

Speaker 1

他他妻子的,恭喜。

his his wife's Congratulations.

Speaker 1

恭喜。

Congratulations.

Speaker 1

真的。

Bet.

Speaker 1

恭喜。

Congratulations.

Speaker 2

我想很多听众已经知道这件事了。

I think a lot of listeners are already aware of this.

Speaker 2

干得好,史蒂文。

Well done, Steven.

Speaker 3

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

我本来想说,我这活儿算轻松的,看了这周的情况之后,天哪。

I was gonna I had the easy job to put it that way after what I've seen this week, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2

是啊,看到这些,你自己的问题就显得没那么重要了,对吧?想想女性要经历这些……

Yeah, it puts your own problems into perspective, doesn't it, when you see how Yeah, women have to do it in this

Speaker 3

那真是一次让人谦卑的经历,对吧?

that is a proper humbling experience, isn't it?

Speaker 3

确实。

True.

Speaker 3

他们现在挺好的,今晚就能带他们回家了。

They're doing good now, get to bring them home tonight.

Speaker 3

所以,是的,苏珊娜和西娅都很好。

So, yeah, Susannah and Thea are doing well.

Speaker 3

太棒了。

Fantastic stuff.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

真是激动人心的时刻。

Exciting times.

Speaker 1

所以,是的,你马上就要突然取消九小时的练习课了。

So, yeah, you're gonna be all of a sudden doing away nine hour practice sessions now.

Speaker 1

你说得对。

You've got it.

Speaker 3

我本来不想说,但你说得对。

I wasn't gonna say, but you've got it.

Speaker 2

突然之间,霍尔沃斯成了最投入的斯诺克选手。

Suddenly, Hallworth is the most devoted snooker player out there.

Speaker 3

哦,俱乐部老板让我早上六点去开门,而且

Oh, the club owner has asked me to go and open up at 6AM, and

Speaker 1

我得到晚上八点才能走。

I can't leave until 8PM.

Speaker 2

史蒂文,你一直在和另一个史蒂文拍视频。

Steven, you've been filming with the other Steven.

Speaker 2

这是和杰克·拉扎尔斯基一起拍的。

This is with Jack Lazarski.

Speaker 2

那感觉怎么样?

How is that?

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我们差不多三年来一直想在这个频道上合作,但一直没能成行,因为他挺难约的,杰克这个人。

We've been trying to get on for about almost three years in the channel, but we've just not been able to sort of he's quite elusive as Jack.

Speaker 1

他不太擅长回消息,不管是WhatsApp还是别的什么平台。

He's not the best at returning messages on on on on on on on WhatsApp or wherever it is.

Speaker 1

但是,是的,我们我们

But, yeah, we've we've

Speaker 2

他的社交生活也挺活跃的。

quite an active social life as well.

Speaker 2

他总是在发

He's he's always posting

Speaker 1

照片。嗯,他结婚了,还有个孩子。

pictures Well, of he's him he's married, and he's got a a kid in way as well.

Speaker 1

他那边事情挺多的。

He's got he's got a lot going there.

Speaker 1

他也刚搬了家。

He's just moved just moved house as well.

Speaker 1

所以他有很多事要忙。

So he's got a lot going on.

Speaker 1

但是,是的,我们今天下午拍了个视频。

But, yeah, we we we had we did a a a a video this afternoon.

Speaker 1

太棒了。

It was great.

Speaker 1

真的非常非常好。

It was really, really good.

Speaker 1

你知道吗?

You know?

Speaker 1

嗯,其实有点剧透。

Well, a bit of a spoiler, really.

Speaker 1

有机会打出147分,真是太神奇了。

It is the chance to make a one four seven was amazing.

Speaker 1

不过,反正你得看视频才知道他有没有做到。

But, anyway, you'll have to watch to see if he did it.

Speaker 1

我们反正会透露的。

We will give it away anyway.

Speaker 1

所以我就直接说了。

So I'm giving it away.

Speaker 1

所以,是的,他差点就打出了一杆147。

So, yeah, he almost made a one four seven.

Speaker 1

就这么说吧。

Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

听你说他有机会打出147,那可真是不容易。

From the way you said he had the chance to make a one four seven, that is quite

Speaker 1

相当不容易。

a bit.

Speaker 1

我其实没意识到自己说了什么,真的。

It's quite a really I didn't realize what yeah.

Speaker 1

我确实知道自己说了什么。

I did realize what I was saying.

Speaker 1

我又不是傻子。

I wasn't an idiot.

Speaker 1

总之,那个

Anyway, that

Speaker 3

太棒了。

was great.

Speaker 2

去YouTube频道看看赵心童是不是真的奇迹般地打出了147,尽管我们知道,对。

YouTube channel to see if Zhao Xintong magically does make a one four seven after all, even though we know Yeah.

Speaker 1

你,你可能会。

You You might.

Speaker 1

所以你现在还在爱丁堡。

So you're still in Edinburgh.

Speaker 1

你还要待多久?

How long how long you've got to go?

Speaker 1

是不是

Is it As

Speaker 2

我说的是,今天是节日的最后一天。

I speak, it's the last day of the festival.

Speaker 2

等大家听到这个的时候,一切都已经结束了。

By the time people hear this, it'll be all over.

Speaker 2

所以我完成了,那是

So I've done That's

Speaker 3

有点单薄,不是吗?

a little thin, wasn't it?

Speaker 2

我想我演了28场,差不多这样,再加上不少其他演出之类的。

I think I've done 28 shows, something like that, plus quite a few other gigs and stuff.

Speaker 2

我一天大概上台40多次。

I've been on stage about 40 odd times a day.

Speaker 1

那明天爱丁堡机场是不是有大约200个喜剧演员?

So is there is there about 200 comedians at Edinburgh Airport tomorrow?

Speaker 1

如果你在爱丁堡机场,那里全是喜剧演员。

If you're at Edinburgh Airport, it's just full of comedians.

Speaker 2

我坐火车,但如果你在爱丁堡机场

I'm getting the train, but if you're at Edinburgh Airport

Speaker 3

你心情不好的话,就避开它。

you're in a bad mood, avoid it.

Speaker 2

说实话,我虽然不想这么说,但如果是我的话,我会避开火车站、机场,还有爱丁堡的任何其他地方。

I would to be honest, I mean, not to do that, my fellow comedians, but I would avoid the station, the airport, and anywhere else if you're in Edinburgh.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

不过也许这会是史上最搞笑的回家航班。

It's or maybe it'll be the funniest flight home of all time.

Speaker 2

你有时候会看到一些人,比如航班延误了,有个歌手会站起来给所有人唱歌。我觉得如果喜剧演员这么做,大概三十秒内就会被嘘回座位。

You sometimes see these people that, like, the flight is delayed or something, the a singer will get up and sing to the whole, casual I I think if a comedian did that, you'd be booed down back into your seat with about thirty seconds, probably.

Speaker 2

我刚淋了一场大雨。

I've just been in a downpour.

Speaker 2

我全身都湿透了,不过我的最后一场演出已经结束了。

I'm absolutely soaking wet, but I've done my last show.

Speaker 2

我的艺术节感觉就像人们在《圣火》里经历的那样,两个半星期过去了,大家都累得不行,但实际上比那还要长得多。

My festival is unlike I feel like what it's like for people at The Crucible when they've done all, like, all two and a half weeks and everyone's walking around sort of days, but it's a lot longer than that, actually.

Speaker 2

所以你可以想象一下,在谢菲尔德待那么久,但时间更长,而且到处都是喜剧演员,就是那种感觉。

So if you imagine being in Sheffield for that time, but then it's longer, and there's comedians everywhere, that's that's the vibe.

Speaker 3

这活儿可真不容易。

Tough gig.

Speaker 2

不过与此同时,斯诺克比赛也一直在进行。

But in the meantime, a lot of snookers been happening.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

我们先从武汉公开赛说起。

And we'll start with the Wuhan Open.

Speaker 2

张炳宇击败了他的同胞赵心童,比分是十比七,最后那杆清台非常精彩,他顶住压力,拿下了冠军。

Chang Bingyu defeated his fellow countryman, Zhao Xintong, ten seven with, yeah, a tremendous clearance, holding his nerve to lift the crown.

Speaker 2

赛后他激动得哭了。

He was in tears afterwards.

Speaker 2

那对他来说显然是个非常重要的时刻。

It was obviously a huge moment for him.

Speaker 2

那么,斯蒂芬·亨德利,你之前说过这只是时间问题。

Well, Stephen Hendry, you said it was it was a matter of time.

Speaker 2

你觉得会这么快吗?

Did you think it'd be this soon?

Speaker 2

我想在本赛季早些时候我们的谈话中,他确实被提到过可能成为首个冠军得主,而他做到了。

I think he did come up in our conversations early this season about who could be a maiden winner, and he's done it.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我我我,这这这,事后说起来当然容易显得聪明,但我觉得,我觉得那

I I I it's it's very, very easy to sound clever after the fact, but I think I think That's

Speaker 2

我们唯一能

the only way we

Speaker 1

反驳的方式。

could do fight that.

Speaker 1

我知道。

I know.

Speaker 1

我知道。

Know.

Speaker 1

但我觉得,看了他这赛季的一些表现后,我们都认为,如果他今年不赢点什么,那才叫意外。

But I think I think we all thought after some of these performances that that this year, he he was it would be a surprise if he didn't win something.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为他就是,他就是,我是说,跟杰克·拉佐夫斯基聊的时候,我是说,杰克·拉佐夫斯基现在是世界最好的球员。

Because he's just he's just been he's just been I mean, talking about with Jack Lazowski, I mean, Jack Lazowski is the best player in the world right now.

Speaker 1

他自己也这么说。

That's what he says.

Speaker 1

即使他输掉比赛,他也能打出两三个百分杆。

Even even when he loses matches, he's still making two or three centuries.

Speaker 1

简直就是一台机器。

It's just it's just an absolute machine.

Speaker 1

他的得分能力太惊人了。

He scores impressive.

Speaker 1

最后那八杆,只是为了清台然后赢下比赛,简直太不可思议了。

And and those last eight shots were just to clear it to win was just unbelievable.

Speaker 1

你知道,你看着球台,心里想,他这样不可能赢的。

You know, it's just you looked at the table, and you thought, well, he's not winning it from here.

Speaker 1

我的意思是,如果你在椅子上坐立不安,你会想,好吧,我要回到

I mean, if you're juggling, tonguing the chair, you're thinking, okay, I'm getting back to the

Speaker 2

我要回到这里。

I'm getting here.

Speaker 2

有机会。

Chance.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

简直太惊人了。

Just just just phenomenal.

Speaker 1

这家伙,这家伙太厉害了。

The guy the guy is is is brilliant.

Speaker 1

我们夸他有一阵子了。

We've been raving about him for a while.

Speaker 1

而且,杰,他证明了自己是货真价实的。

And, Jay, he's he's he's proved he's a real deal.

Speaker 3

我觉得张炳宇的迹象已经显现很久了。

I think the signs have been there for for a long time now for Chang Bingyu.

Speaker 3

就像你提到的,最让人印象深刻的是他的得分能力。

As you mentioned, the scoring is what has been most impressive.

Speaker 3

但很多球员在状态好的时候也能打出那样的得分,但关键在于他能如此稳定地长期保持这种表现,这不得不让人注意。

But a lot of players can score like that on their day, but the fact he's been doing it so consistently over long periods of time, it kind of demands you to take note.

Speaker 3

你必须重视这种稳定性,但这并不能保证你赢得比赛,也不意味着你配得上夺冠。

You've got to take note of that level of consistency, and that still doesn't guarantee you or make you deserve to win a tournament.

Speaker 3

你还是得站出来做到,他这周是走了一条艰难的路,但确实,迹象一直都在,很高兴看到他在过去几个月,尤其是在资格赛阶段的努力终于开花结果,捧起了一座重要的奖杯。

You've still got to stand up and do it, he's done it the hard way this week, but yeah, the signs have been there and it was nice to sort of see the fruits of his labor over the past few months, particularly in the qualifying process, you know, come to fruition and get his hands on a big one.

Speaker 2

对,他必须在莱斯特打资格赛。

Yeah, he had to qualify in Leicester.

Speaker 2

他赢了罗尼。

He beat Ronnie.

Speaker 2

他赢了贾德。

He beat Judd.

Speaker 2

而且我们不是第一次听到关于这些中国球星的类似故事了。

And it's not the first time we've heard this sort of thing with these Chinese stars.

Speaker 2

他爸爸把房子卖了。

His dad sold their house.

Speaker 2

他妈妈两年来每天都陪着他。

His mom's been with him every day for two years.

Speaker 2

他们真的,你知道,我们听到过类似的故事,关于世界上任何人,他们真的做出了巨大的牺牲,不仅仅是球员,还有他们的家人。

They really, you know, we heard a slightly similar story about how anyone in the world they really do make enormous sacrifices, not just the players, but their families.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

而且他显然,你知道,他在职业生涯中犯过错误,也经历过那段停赛期。

And he's obviously had you know, he's made mistakes in his career, he's had that time out as well.

Speaker 1

但他刚回来,看起来,我是说,没有什么比连续得分更让对手感到压力的了。

But he's just come back and he just looked I mean, nothing intimidates opponents more than heavy scoring.

Speaker 1

如果你失误了,你坐在椅子上,而你的对手每次都清台。

If you make a mistake, you sit down your chair and your guy's just clearing the table every time.

Speaker 1

这真的是一个非常非常强大的武器。

It's just such a powerful, powerful weapon.

Speaker 1

而且我觉得,你知道,吴易泽显然还没有找到世锦赛时的状态。

And I think, you know, Wu Yuz has obviously he's he's not managed to find the form of the world championship yet.

Speaker 1

不管是不是因为这个,他有点压力,我也不确定。

Whether it's because of that or not, he's a little bit under a little bit of pressure, I don't know.

Speaker 1

但那三个家伙,你知道,新同他们,得分能力真的太惊人了。

But those three guys are just know, Xintong, they're just the scoring power is just phenomenal.

Speaker 1

而且这真的很让人害怕。

And and it's so intimidating.

Speaker 1

真的很让人害怕。

It's so intimidating.

Speaker 3

不过话说回来,你看他在场上连续打出高分杆和精彩破百的时候,他的反应和做事方式,

The thing about it is as well, though, you look at you look at how he reacts, sort of how he goes about his business in the arena when he's when he's making those barrage and big break.

Speaker 3

他从来不会激动,而很多顶级选手,关键就在这儿,对吧?

He doesn't ever get excited, and a lot of those top players, that's the key, isn't it?

Speaker 3

巡回赛里的其他人,我们可能连续打出两三杆破百,就会开始想,天哪,我是不是该失误一杆了?

Other folk on the tour, we might make two or three breaks in a row, you start to think, Jesus, am I going to miss one at some point?

Speaker 3

或者稍微有点……他们就是继续打,一直保持,真是毫不留情,对吧?

Or just get a little They just carry on, just keep It's relentless, isn't it?

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

他们能保持那种水平,而你呢,你只会想着眼前这一杆,专注于当下,就像我们说的,不往前想,也不往后看。

They managed to keep that sort of level that level whereas, you know, the only shot you're thinking about is is the one staying in the moment, as we say, you know, not getting ahead of yourself or looking behind.

Speaker 1

而且,这确实证明了,就像我说的,这是真本事。

And, yeah, it's it's just yeah, it's it's proof that, as I say, it's a real deal.

Speaker 1

而且,你知道,他每次上场都会是个威胁,每次都能拿下比赛。

And, you know, he's he's gonna be a he's gonna be a threat every time he every time he to secure the case.

Speaker 3

不过我觉得咱们得聊聊最后一局那次清台,那真是让人惊叹的一杆,不是吗?

I think we need to talk about that clearance in the final frame, though, because we was would like an astonishing desk, wasn't it?

Speaker 2

对,只有这个能比得上。

Yeah, that's the only thing you can compare it to.

Speaker 2

就像亨德利说的,看那些球的走位,你会想,他不可能全打进吧。

As Hendry said, the way the balls work, you think, well, he's not going get all of these.

Speaker 2

但他做到了,我是说——

But he did, I mean

Speaker 3

而且可以说,最难的一颗球就是最后那个黑球,史蒂文,因为那球他根本不该赢下这局。

And arguably the hardest ball on the break was the final black, Steven, because he had no right to win the frame of that.

Speaker 3

那些球他一个都不该打进。

He had no right to pot any of those balls.

Speaker 3

突然间,他面对一个黑球,任何情况下都不可能打丢。

All of a sudden, he's now faced with a black which is unmissable in any circumstance.

Speaker 3

但在那个阶段,那颗球其实很容易失误。

And that is so missable at that stage.

Speaker 1

确实如此。

Absolutely.

Speaker 1

但他回到座位上待了那么久,我知道。

But he's back to his chair for so long I know.

Speaker 1

他一直在积累,积累,再积累。

Which he built it up and built it up and built it up.

Speaker 1

就像我总觉得,当球员在打一杆制胜的球时,如果停下来让裁判擦母球,我不喜欢看到这种情况,因为那会打断你的节奏。

It's like because I always think when your players are getting if you're in a break to win and players stop to get the cue ball cleaned, I I don't like to see it because it's breaking your rhythm.

Speaker 1

会打断你的专注。

It's breaking your concentrations.

Speaker 1

会打断你的势头。

It's breaking your momentum.

Speaker 1

所以,即使有时候你能看到母球上有东西,必须得擦,我也还是不喜欢。

So I I even though sometimes you can see something in the cue ball, you have to get it cleaned.

Speaker 1

但他却回到了座位上。

But he went back to his chair.

Speaker 1

他走到球前。

He came to it.

Speaker 1

然后他又回去喝了口水。

Then he went back again at another drink.

Speaker 1

他看了看观众。

He looked at the crowd.

Speaker 1

他差点笑了。

He almost smiled.

Speaker 1

他这么做的时候,我挺为他担心的。

This and you you you I worried for him when he did that.

Speaker 1

我想,对。

I thought Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为你不应该,就是别分散注意力。

Because you you don't it's just don't break your concentration.

Speaker 2

我知道。

I know.

Speaker 2

而且你想,如果他没打进,然后从那儿输掉了这一局,突然之间,你就会想,这是不是会成为那种著名的崩溃时刻之一。

And imagine if he had missed it and and lost the frame from there, suddenly, you're wondering if it's gonna be one of the great sort of choking incidents.

Speaker 3

就像,那几乎是不可能赢的。

Like, it was couldn't win in possible.

Speaker 2

如果那球没进,要再翻盘就非常非常难了,那真是钢铁般的神经。

It would be very, very hard to come back from that if you missed absolute nerves of steel.

Speaker 2

我的意思是,你觉得有没有一种可能,如果那杆清台更容易一些,紧张情绪可能会影响他?但正因为如此,那球看起来那么不可能,我觉得,你知道,那几乎就像是一次免费的机会,因为太不可能了。

Mean, do you reckon, is there an element of like, if it had been an easier clearance to win, the nerves might have got to it But as it was, it seems so unlikely that he was sort of- I think you know, almost a free hit because it was so unlikely.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

这就是为什么我认为最后那个黑球是整杆清台里最难的一颗,因为——

Which is why I think the final black was the hardest ball in the break because

Speaker 2

因为他——

because he

Speaker 3

证明了没人能清台。

showed nobody could clear up.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

而且,回到史蒂文刚才说的,就是专注于当下,一颗球一颗球地打。

And there was just no way, know, going back to what Steven just said there about being in the moment and just focusing one ball at a time.

Speaker 3

那一杆他只能做到这样。

That's all he could do in that break.

Speaker 3

对,对。

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

就像清台的概率只有千分之一,再加上这是为了他的首个排名赛冠军,所有的 odds 都完全对他不利。

Like a one in a thousand chance of clearing up, and then you sort of bring in the fact that it was for a maiden ranking title, and you know, all the odds are just completely against him there.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

所有的球都摆好了。

All the balls are on.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

如果所有的球都摆好了,你就会想,哦,我必须在这里赢下比赛。

If all the balls are on, you're sort of thinking to yourself, oh, I've got to win it here.

Speaker 1

如果我没在这里赢下比赛,你知道,那多可惜啊。对。

I don't win it here, you know, what a chance Yeah.

Speaker 2

我不会原谅自己的。

I won't forgive myself.

Speaker 2

然后它就在这里击中了我。

And then it gets me here.

Speaker 1

所以,是的。

So yeah.

Speaker 1

我是说,你说得对,马克。

I mean, you're right, Mark.

Speaker 1

这个问题问得好。

It was a good question.

Speaker 1

我是说,他可能从来就没想过自己能赢下来。

I mean, he's you know, he probably was never thinking at any stage maybe that he was gonna make it clear.

Speaker 1

就是一球一球地打。

It's just one ball at a time.

Speaker 1

这就是

Which is

Speaker 2

你必须要

the way you've got to

Speaker 1

打的

play the

Speaker 2

比赛,对吧?

game, isn't it?

Speaker 2

这就是

It's the

Speaker 1

对,就是这样。

way Exactly.

Speaker 1

然后突然之间,你就看到那颗黑球,感觉就像,天哪。

Then all of a sudden, you got that black, and it's like, oh my god.

Speaker 1

这是来自一场锦标赛的。

This is from a tournament.

Speaker 1

就像我说的,他离开球桌的那段时间,我是不太喜欢的,我不喜欢看到那种情况。

As I say, the the the time he spent away from the table was was was I wouldn't have liked I don't like to see that.

Speaker 1

我不会那么做的。

I wouldn't I wouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1

我就想直接打进去。

I just wanna be straight down and put it.

Speaker 3

我还注意到一个有点阴暗的数据,就在我看决赛尾声的时候。

I picked up on a bit a bit of a dark stat here as well, just when I was catching the the back end of the final.

Speaker 3

我不记得有哪次,史蒂文,如果有的话你可以纠正我,一个球员,不只是通往首个排名赛冠军的路上,而是通往任何排名赛冠军的路上,能在同一场比赛中击败两位世界第一。

I can't remember a time, and Steven, you might correct me if there has been one, when a player, not just en route to a maiden ranking title, but en route to any ranking title, has beaten two world number ones in the same tournament.

Speaker 1

没错。

Exactly.

Speaker 1

他能不能击败

Could he beat

Speaker 3

特鲁姆普,那场把他打下来了,还有赵心童,对。

Trump, which then knocked him down, and the Zhao Xintong Yeah.

Speaker 3

到决赛时已经是世界第一了。

Was number one in by the final.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

他几乎做到了。

He's almost done that.

Speaker 2

这几乎不可能发生,对吧?

It's almost impossible for it to happen, isn't it?

Speaker 2

这需要极其特殊的情况。

It requires a freak set of circumstances.

Speaker 3

我们现在

We're getting

Speaker 1

嗯,我

Well, I

Speaker 3

感觉现在这情况挺有意思的,对吧?

feel this is neat now, isn't it?

Speaker 1

世界上某个地方的会员现在肯定气疯了。

Affiliate somewhere in the world is just absolutely fuming at the moment.

Speaker 1

这是他最新的。

He's his latest.

Speaker 1

他是,他是,我以为你

He's He's a I thought you

Speaker 2

只是说两个曾经世界排名第一的人。

just meant two people that have been world number one.

Speaker 2

我在想,在

Was thinking In

Speaker 3

同一周。

the same week.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

我当时在想,他在说什么呢?

I was thinking, what's he talking about?

Speaker 2

这种情况发生过很多次了。

That's happened loads of times.

Speaker 1

但是两个

But two

Speaker 2

当时是世界第一的人,这几乎是不可能的。

people that had been world number one at the time is almost impossible.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

你得先把某人从排名上挤下去,然后面对接替他的人,再打败他。

You've got to knock someone down the rankings and then take on the person that replaces them and beat him.

Speaker 2

真是太不可思议了。

Absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3

太厉害了。

Quality.

Speaker 2

现在他已经跨过了那道坎。

And now he's got past that hurdle.

Speaker 2

我是说,不管心理上的那道坎是什么,就是需要赢下第一个冠军的那种,他才24岁,排名已经升到第22位了。

I mean, whatever the psychological hurdle is of, you know, needing to win your first one, he's only 24, He's up to 22 in the rankings.

Speaker 2

你肯定觉得,照这个势头,等到克鲁斯堡比赛的时候,他应该能进前16吧。

You must feel that he's on his way to being in that top 16 when the Crucible comes around as he's on this trajectory.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我是说,不。

I mean, no.

Speaker 1

不。

No.

Speaker 1

如果他不是前十六的选手,甚至到了大师赛的时候,我都会很惊讶,因为我觉得他现在状态正佳。

If he's if he's not a top 16 player, even even come the time of the masters, I'll be shocked because I think he's just I think he's on a roll now.

Speaker 1

我觉得那场胜利会给他带来巨大的信心。

I think he's he'll he'll be he'll have so much confidence from that win.

Speaker 1

其实他本来就很自信,但如果他没进大师赛,我会很吃惊。

I mean, he was always he was confident anyway, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't at the masters.

Speaker 3

而且他还有球员锦标赛可以期待,还有大奖赛和巡回赛里的球员赛事。

The fact he's got the players events to look forward to as well, the Grand Prix, players in the tour.

Speaker 3

我知道其中几个赛事,好像这三个都在大师赛之后吧,是不是?

I know a couple of those come, I think all three of them come after the Masters actually, don't they?

Speaker 1

对,是的。

Yeah, they do.

Speaker 3

有意思的是,看他能不能进大师赛,然后冲击世锦赛,争取在谢菲尔德成为种子选手,这对张丙宇来说真的很关键,因为他要在那些比赛里争取三个重要的名额。

Interesting to see if he gets in that Masters, the run to the world championship to become a seed in Sheffield is well and truly on for Chang Bingyu because he's got three massive pots to go out in those tournaments.

Speaker 2

他参加的那些大型赛事,其他人可没机会参加。

He's got huge tournaments there that other people haven't got access to.

Speaker 2

所以,他肯定会出现在这里的。

So yeah, he surely will rock up this point.

Speaker 2

再简单说说那场决赛。

Just a word on that final.

Speaker 2

挺有意思的。

Interesting one.

Speaker 2

我觉得整场比赛一个百分杆都没有。

There's no centuries at all, I think, at West.

Speaker 2

虽然有一些精彩的进球和一些精彩的战术较量,但就像我们之前说的,这两位选手都很能得分,这场决赛并不是那种高分大战,对吧?

And there was some brilliant potting there was some brilliant sort of tactical stuff, but it wasn't given what we said about how both of these players pile up the points, it wasn't a final of massive heavy scoring, was it?

Speaker 2

这场比赛的意义远不止于此。

It was about more than that.

Speaker 3

这也说明,赢得一局斯诺克不止一种方式。

And it shows you there's more than one ways to win a frame of snooker.

Speaker 3

现在大家都看重高分,但有时候,这场决赛看起来依然非常精彩、扣人心弦,虽然没有百分杆,但要不是你刚才提到,我都没注意到。

Nowadays, it's all about heavy scoring, but at times it was still a very, very exciting, dramatic final to watch, no century breaks, but you kind of didn't really notice it until you just mentioned it there.

Speaker 2

赵心童虽然输掉了决赛,但正如我们之前说的,他成为了新的世界第一。

Zhao Xintong, despite losing the final, comes out of this, as as we've said already, the world's new number one.

Speaker 2

他是继丁俊晖之后第二位登顶世界第一的中国选手。

He's the second Chinese player to top that list after Ding, of course.

Speaker 2

他先后击败了杰克·琼斯、巴里·霍金斯、罗伯逊,然后还有赵心童——当然,赵心童在那项赛事中已经很久没输过了。这位新的世界第一这一周的表现真是令人印象深刻。

He saw off Jack Jones, Barry Hawkins, Robertson, and then Zhao Xintong, who, of course, hadn't been beaten at that tournament for a very, very long Very impressive week from the world, the new world number one.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

他,他,对。

He's he's Yeah.

Speaker 1

他真是个顶尖高手,不是吗?

He's he's just a class act, isn't he?

Speaker 1

真的,真的是。他,他有点,我是说,他到底是个什么样的人?

Really, really, is He's the way he he's a bit I mean, what is he?

Speaker 1

他回归赛场才多久,两三年吧?

He's only been back in the scene, what, two, three years?

Speaker 1

几年时间,就已经是世界第一了。

Years, and he's already world number one.

Speaker 1

这真的太不可思议了。

I mean, it's just phenomenal.

Speaker 3

其实他连第二年都没打完呢,对吧?

Well, he's not even finished his second year, has he?

Speaker 3

他还有积分要拿,而且没有什么需要保的。

He's still got points He's to rack not defending anything.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

他说的都是些真材实料之类的东西。

He's he's he's he's he's talking about, like, real deals and things like that.

Speaker 1

赵心童,在我看来,是世界上最好的球员。

Jao Xintong is is, you know, in my opinion, the best player in the world.

Speaker 1

而且,是的,争夺世界第一的这场较量会非常精彩。

And, yeah, it's it's going be fascinating to see the battle for that number one status.

Speaker 1

但正如斯蒂芬所说,凭借他现有的积分,以及他不会丢掉的积分,很难看到他被人拉下马。

But as Stephen said, with the points he's got, the points he's not losing, it's hard to see him getting knocked off it.

Speaker 2

当你看到

When you look

Speaker 3

决赛本身,赵心童打丢了很多常规球,这让我和很多人都感到意外。

the final itself, on Zhao Xintong, there was a lot of routine balls missed on his part, which surprised me and many others.

Speaker 3

你觉得他是不是在决赛中给自己施加了太多压力?因为他连续夺冠的纪录,他当时是奔着七连胜去的,对吧?

Do you think he almost put a little bit of self imposed expectation on himself for that final because, you know, this record of this run of finals wins that he's got, he was going for seven from seven there, wasn't he?

Speaker 3

而且突然之间,我觉得大家都期待他能击败常冰玉。

And all of a sudden I think he was expected to beat Chang Bingyu.

Speaker 2

是的,当然。

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3

在其他决赛里,可能双方机会差不多,但那一场,对我来说他绝对是夺冠热门,尽管常冰玉打得不错。

In the other finals, perhaps it was a bit more fiftyfifty, but in that one, was certainly, he was the odds on favourite for me, even though Chang was playing well.

Speaker 3

你觉得那对他有影响吗?

Do you think that had any bearing on him?

Speaker 3

因为他错失的那些绝对必进球,怎么能归结为粗心大意或者注意力不集中呢?

Because how can you put that down to carelessness or a lapse in concentration, some of the absolute sitters that he missed?

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

确实。

It is.

Speaker 1

在这方面确实有点奇怪。

It was it was a strange in in that respect.

Speaker 1

他在那场比赛里,有几局打得……

It it was he played there's a few matches to the tournament.

Speaker 1

虽然他赢了,但有些比赛确实打得挺挣扎的。

Although he won, there was there was matches.

Speaker 1

我是说,和霍金斯的比赛里,就像你说的,有很多非受迫性失误和错误。

I mean, the Hawkins match was littered with sort of, as you say, like, unforced errors, mistakes.

Speaker 1

他最终还是过关了,这显然是一位伟大球员的标志——即使状态不在最佳也能赢。

He managed to get through, which was obviously the sign of a great player not being at your best.

Speaker 1

但我不确定他是不是在面对张炳宇的时候有点被震慑住了。

But I don't know whether he was a little bit just as little bit intimidated going in against Chang Bingyu.

Speaker 1

我不知道。

I don't know.

Speaker 1

我是说,炳宇确实在打出自己的名声,而且你知道,我们在决赛里提到他打出了那么多百分杆,但我觉得他已经开始让人有点畏惧了。

I mean, Bingyu is certainly creating a name for himself, and and, you know, we say we score in all those centuries in the final, but he's already starting to get a little bit of a fear factor, I think.

Speaker 1

也许在决赛里,他确实有点没法完全放松,你知道,新桐在决赛中就是没法彻底放开。

And maybe there was a little bit he he he just wasn't able to relax, you know, properly Xintong in the final.

Speaker 1

我真的不知道。

I I don't know.

Speaker 1

在中国跟另一位中国选手比赛,你知道,情况有点不一样。

Playing another Chinese player in China, I don't you know, little bit little different situation.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

确实,他得习惯经常被看好,不是吗?

It is true that he's gonna have to get used to being favorite a lot of the time, isn't it?

Speaker 2

而且,因为他是个很棒的选手,以前有些比赛他也是被看好的,但一旦成为世界第一,受到的关注程度肯定不一样了。

And, I mean, he's obviously, because he's such a great player, he's been favorite in some of these ones before, but once you're world number one, it is presumably is a different level of attention that you're getting all the time.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我是说,查尔斯,他也会非常稳定。

I mean, gonna be he's gonna be so consistent as well, Charles.

Speaker 1

所以看起来他总能打到比赛的关键阶段。

And so it just seems to be at the business end of tournaments.

Speaker 1

你知道,他总会在那里,或者差不多。

You know, it's gonna be there or thereabouts.

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Speaker 1

我觉得很多比赛都是这样。

I think so many tournaments.

Speaker 1

我还是觉得他这赛季至少能赢三个冠军,可能四个,甚至五个。

I still think he'll win at least three, maybe four, maybe even five titles this season.

Speaker 1

我就是觉得他没那么厉害,他确实很厉害。

I just think he's not as good he's that good.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

我是说,就像你说的,在那之前他已经连续赢了七个决赛。

I mean and as you said, he's he's won seven consecutive finals before that.

Speaker 2

我们很少看到有人能让他情绪波动,这再次说明了常冰玉能做到这一点是多么了不起。

We don't see anyone get under his skin very much, which again, it shows you what an achievement it is for for Chang Bingyu.

Speaker 2

显然,丁俊晖首次登顶世界第一时,有个中国选手站在顶端还挺新鲜的,而且当时中国没有其他像他这样的选手。

Obviously, Ding first topped the rankings, it was a it was quite a novelty to have a Chinese player at the top there, and there was no one else like him coming out of China now.

Speaker 2

你觉得我们是不是应该习惯看到中国选手越来越多地占据顶尖位置呢?

You know, do you feel we should get used to seeing Chinese players sort of dominate the top spots more and more?

Speaker 2

嗯,我

Well, I

Speaker 1

我是说,我们显然看到了塞尔比,当最后一个,还有贾德,确实如此。

mean, we've seen obviously we've seen Selby when when when the last one and and Judd It's true.

Speaker 1

贾德,贾德,贾德在上海。

Judd Judd Judd in Shanghai.

Speaker 1

所以我们不能说中国选手会完全统治,但我觉得,我不知道一个赛季有多少场比赛,但我是说,会有不少比赛被中国选手赢下,尤其是这三个人。

So we can't say it's gonna be total domination from the Chinese players, but I think I mean, don't know how many tournaments there is in a in a season though, but I mean, there's there's you're gonna be a good few tournaments are gonna be won by Chinese players, especially these three.

Speaker 1

吴宜泽可能还需要一些时间,就像我之前说的,去适应世界冠军的身份和期望,但他很快就会重新开始赢球。

Wu Yizuo is gonna maybe gonna take time, as I said before, to get used to the mantle and the expectation of being world champion, but he'll be back winning winning sooner rather than later.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

几乎令人惊叹。

Almost amazing.

Speaker 2

我们差点忘了吴宜泽在这次谈话中,那个

We almost forgot about Wu Yeezy in this conversation that the the

Speaker 1

我知道。

the I know.

Speaker 2

中国选手太强了,以至于世界冠军本人都快被忽略了。

The Chinese players are so strong that with the world champion himself is almost, you know, an afterthought now.

Speaker 2

他们的天赋真是无穷无尽。

There's just there's just no end to their talent.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

而且有意思的是,看看贾德丢掉世界第一后的反应。

And and obviously, interesting to see the the the reaction from Judd losing his world number one.

Speaker 1

他有多渴望夺回来,马上夺回来?

How hungry is he to get it back to get you know, to come straight back?

Speaker 1

他会不会因此受伤?

Is is he hurt from that?

Speaker 1

还是说,他其实不太在意世界排名?

Or is he is he is he not really that bothered about world number ranking?

Speaker 1

他就是想赢比赛吗?

Does he just wanna win tournaments?

Speaker 2

他给人的印象一直是只想赢比赛,不太在意自己的地位或者历史成就。但是被张炳宇打得那么惨,好吧,说惨可能有点过了,但他确实是被打得挺惨的,那肯定很伤自尊吧,你知道,因为贾德也很喜欢赢球。

He's always sort of given the impression that he just wants to win tournaments, that he doesn't sort of brood about like his status or his legacy that much, but being thrashed, well, I don't thrashed is fair, but he was well beaten by Chang Bingyu, that must That's got to hurt presumably, you know, because he also does love winning, Judd.

Speaker 1

没错,没错。

Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1

而且丢掉世界第一肯定很难受。

And it has to hurt not being world number one.

Speaker 1

要是没感觉,那就不正常了。我是说,他肯定不会高兴。

You wouldn't be human if you I mean, he's not going to be happy about it.

Speaker 3

我觉得如果特朗普退一步看的话,他其实是自己成功的受害者,因为排名系统是两年滚动制的。

I think if he takes a step back though, Trump, you know, he kind of is a victim of his own success, isn't he, because of the ranking system and how it works, the two year rolling system.

Speaker 3

你得不断赢比赛,而且不是随便什么比赛,你得赢那些大赛,这可不是那么容易的事,对吧?

You've got to keep winning multiple events, but not just any events, you've got to keep winning the big ones, and it's not that easy to do, is it?

Speaker 3

所以你看特朗普,他现在的水平还是很高的,还是能打进大赛的关键阶段,但就是刚好奖金排名到期了,然后其他选手拿了奖金,后面竞争就变得激烈了。

So you look at Trump, he's still playing to a great level, he's still in the business end of these big tournaments, but it just so happens that the prize money ranking comes off and then other players pick up money, and it becomes a little competitive later down the lines.

Speaker 2

对,有一部分原因是这样。

Yeah, part of it is that.

Speaker 3

我觉得没什么好

I don't think there's anything

Speaker 2

让特朗普担心的。

for Trump to worry about.

Speaker 2

不,这也有点天时地利的意思,对吧?

No, it's partly his right place, right time, isn't it, with these things?

Speaker 2

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

说到过去和现在的世界第一,罗尼,我觉得我们在播客里已经聊过很多次了,但罗尼又一次批评了自己的表现。

Speaking of world number ones past and present, Ronnie, as always, I feel like we've had this discussion a lot of times on the podcast, but Ronnie once again sort of laid into his own performance.

Speaker 2

他,我是说,你知道,他五比三赢了塞尔比,这再次说明,跟我们大多数人相比,他没什么好担心的。

He I mean, you know, he beat Selby five three, which, again, is not the sign of a person that's got that much to worry about compared with most of us.

Speaker 2

但即便如此,当

But even then, when

Speaker 1

我不知道赛后采访是谁在提问,但我觉得他们得换换问题了。

I don't know who's asking during these interviews we run after, but I mean, they've got to change their questions.

Speaker 1

一直引导他说那些,比如这是种病啊,他打得有多差啊,还有他都不知道母球在干嘛之类的。

Just leading him down this path where he's just going on about, you know, it's a disease, he's such a bad player and all this, and he doesn't know what the cue ball's doing.

Speaker 1

所以这听起来确实不太舒服,但我们已经

So it's like, I mean, it's not the greatest thing to listen to, to be fair, but we've

Speaker 2

听罗尼说很多了。

a lot from Ronnie now.

Speaker 2

不过他也说了,他承诺再打十八个月。

Mean, he did also say he's committed to playing for another eighteen months.

Speaker 2

他说过一两次,他——你知道的,这挺好的,因为以前有时候他暗示过可能随时会退役。

He said once or twice that he's he's you know, which is nice because there's been times in the past where he's implied that he might be gone sort of any moment.

Speaker 2

对。

Mhmm.

Speaker 2

我是说,他

I mean, he

Speaker 1

显然,他应该说的是,你知道,一边唱歌一边批评自己。

obviously What should be saying, you know, criticizing himself as he's singing.

Speaker 1

我是说,我看了他的新Instagram页面,叫The O'Sullivan's,他还在上面唱歌。

I mean, I've seen his new Instagram page called The O'Sullivan's, and he was singing.

Speaker 1

天哪。

Oh my god.

Speaker 1

那简直太糟糕了。

It was absolutely horrific.

Speaker 2

你看,这挺有意思的,对吧?

See, that's funny, isn't it?

Speaker 2

那自我意识去哪儿了?

Where's the where's the self awareness then?

Speaker 2

你不会看到他在新闻发布会上说,我这周唱歌唱得很糟糕。

You don't you don't you don't see him on the press conference going, my singing's been awful this week.

Speaker 2

我就是不够好。

I've just I've not been good enough.

Speaker 2

我打算放弃唱歌了。

I'm gonna give up the singing.

Speaker 2

我是说,这个话题我们只能聊这么多次,但确实感觉他显然已经承诺参加更多比赛了。

I mean, there's only so many times we can have this conversation, but it does feel as if you know, he's obviously committed to more tournaments.

Speaker 2

他打的比赛比以往更多,而且他喜欢打中国的比赛之类的,但找到稳定性肯定很难。

He's playing more tournaments than, you know, and he likes playing the Chinese ones and stuff, but still it must be hard to find the consistency.

Speaker 2

我们聊了很多关于他是否还那么想要赢的问题。

We've talked a lot about does he still want it quite as much?

Speaker 2

他肯定想再赢一次世界冠军,但他是否真的像其他人那样投入那么多时间呢?

He wants to win another world surely, but does he, is he putting, is he possibly putting on as much time as all these people?

Speaker 2

现在有很多原因让罗尼不再是十年前的那个罗尼了。

There's a lot now, there's lot of reasons now where Ronnie wouldn't be the Ronnie of ten years ago.

Speaker 2

我们也许不得不接受这一点,但他自己似乎不太能接受。

We maybe do have to accept that, but it seems like he can't quite accept it himself.

Speaker 1

是的,关键是要把那一整周连贯起来,对吧?

Yeah, it's stringing that whole week together, isn't it?

Speaker 1

这仍然是关键所在。

That's that's still the thing.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我仍然觉得他这个赛季会赢得一个冠军,是的。

I I still got a feeling that he'll win a tournament this season Yeah.

Speaker 1

在某个时候。

At some stage.

Speaker 1

我觉得他会赢,因为他仍然展现出一些闪光点。

I think he'll win when he's he still shows shows flashes.

Speaker 1

我是说,那场对塞尔比的比赛,尽管罗尼对此很不屑,但比赛中确实有很多高分表现,从零比二落后到最后赢下比赛。

I mean, the Selby performance, even though Ronnie was pretty disparaging about it, mean, there was a lot of a lot of quite he was a bit of heavy scoring in that match to win that match from two nil down.

Speaker 1

这相当令人印象深刻,对手可是刚赢得中国公开赛的人。

That's quite impressive against the guy who's just won the China Open.

Speaker 1

所以是的。

So yeah.

Speaker 1

虽然听罗尼的赛后采访可能会有点无聊,但我觉得他在场上确实下了功夫。

Although although although it might be getting, you know, a little bit boring listening to Ronnie, you know, the way he's post match interviews, but, you know, I I still think I think he's putting the work in when he's out.

Speaker 1

我觉得他在球台上花了很多时间。

Think he spent a lot of time on the table.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

如果他真的在寻找什么并且找到了,那他这个赛季就能赢一个冠军。

And if he and if and if he search for something and he does find it, he'll win a tournament this season.

Speaker 2

你觉得……抱歉,我是斯蒂芬。

Do you think Sorry, it could I'm Stephen.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

我觉得值得仔细分析一下罗尼到底说了什么,因为家里听的人可能在想他到底在说些什么。

I think it'd be worth just sort of dissecting exactly what Ronnie has been saying, you know, for people at home listening and wondering what is he actually on about this disease.

Speaker 3

这正好说明没有人能免于在斯诺克上折腾,有时候这项运动真的会完全占据你的身心。罗尼是史上最佳,这点我们都知道,也都同意。

It just goes to show that no one is immune to tinkering in snooker, and at times the game can completely consume you, and Ron is the goat, we know that, we all agree on that.

Speaker 3

但他还是在寻找什么。他说的这种病,是指他多年来通过不同的教练形成了一种打法,他陷入了这种打法,一开始你必须投入进去,必须相信它才能奏效,才能产生影响。

But he's still searching for something, And what he means by this disease is he's adopted a way of playing through various coaching over the years, he's got into this method of playing which you have to invest in at the start, you've got to believe in for it to work and for it to have an effect.

Speaker 3

但现在这对他的比赛产生了负面影响,突然间他有点迷失了,找不到出路,完全失去了方向。

But it's having a detrimental effect on his game now, and all of a sudden he's got a little bit lost, and he can't find his way back out, and the light is completely gone.

Speaker 3

斯蒂芬,我正想问你,在你的职业生涯中,你觉得什么时候你的比赛状态会让你觉得够了就是够了?

Stephen, I was going to ask you, at what point, where do you get to it with your game in your career where enough is enough?

Speaker 3

你是需要不断找人帮你找到那个水平,还是说只是为了保持状态,找到动力?

Do you need to keep seeing people to find that level, or is it just something to keep ticking you over to find that motivation?

Speaker 2

这是个有趣的问题。

It's an interesting question.

Speaker 2

因为,之后想想,教练能对罗尼说什么呢?

Because, afterwards, imagine what can a coach say to Ronnie at

Speaker 1

这其实是个很难说的事,

this It's a hiding

Speaker 3

对吧?

thing often, isn't it?

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我觉得,嗯,我猜他现在已经不和教练合作了。

I I I think it's well, I mean, I presume he's finished with coaches now.

Speaker 1

而且我说过,我的意思是,如果我能打个响指回到我十四五岁的时候,就自然地打球,什么都不想,我肯定会那么做。

And and I've said I've said mean, if I could click my fingers and go back to when I was 15, 14, 15, and just play naturally and not thinking about anything, I'd I'd I would do it.

Speaker 1

我觉得罗尼,这就是罗尼的意思。

And I think Ronnie that's that's what Ronnie's saying.

Speaker 1

他就是想回到打斯诺克的那种状态,回到他热爱的那种打法,回到他十几岁刚开始打球时的样子。

He wants to just to go back to playing snooker, how he loved to play and and and how he started playing when he was a teenager.

Speaker 1

就是俯下身,看到球路,打出去,让球杆自己发挥作用,你知道的。

Just just get down, see the shots, play them, and let the let the cue do the work and let the you know.

Speaker 1

但当你像我一样,有过三四个教练,教你三四种不同的方法,那就很难了。

But when you've had, as I had, three or four coaches who sort of teach you three, four different methods, it can be very difficult.

Speaker 1

几乎不可能,你知道,因为最后我得了神经紧张症,我,你知道,我都不知道自己在干什么。

Well, find it impossible, you know, because in the end, I ended up got the yips and my my you know, I didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 1

到最后,我在一场比赛里用了四五种不同的出杆动作。

At the end, I was playing four or five different cue actions in one match.

Speaker 1

然后就是不停地寻找一点灵感。

And it's just sort of constantly searching for a bit of inspiration.

Speaker 1

我觉得,你知道,你时不时会找到的。

And I think that's you know, you'll find it now and then.

Speaker 1

有些局你会觉得,哦,这感觉真好。

There'll be frames where it's, oh, this feels good.

Speaker 1

然后,是的。

And then Yeah.

Speaker 1

就像你说的,有些比赛就是,它会钻进你脑子里,你出不来。

As you said, there'll be matches where it's just, it gets in your head, you can't get out your head.

Speaker 1

我是不是这样出杆的?

Am I queuing this way?

Speaker 1

还是我的后旋太长了?

Or has my backspin too long?

Speaker 1

就是说,斯诺克真的很考验心理素质。

It's this, I mean, it's, yeah, snooker's such a mental game.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

当你处于那种心理状态时,知道怎么调整自己肯定很难。

It must be tough to, when you're in that mental state, to know how to sort of reset as well.

Speaker 2

史蒂文,这个问题可能有点难回答,但你觉得对他来说,关键是怎么找回那种更自然的打球方式?

I mean, what it's a difficult question, Steven, but if you what do you think is key for him to finding his way back to that more natural way of playing?

Speaker 2

有没有办法让他忘掉一切,回到最基础的东西?

Is there a way he can just, you know, forget everything and then just go back to basics?

Speaker 1

我觉得你能做的就是多花时间在球台上,不断尝试,努力找回那种感觉。

I think all you can do is just put the hours in the table and just try and try and try and get that feeling back.

Speaker 1

我是说,不管他50岁了,他有没有动力去做这些,我觉得,据我所知,他确实在练习台上下了很多功夫。

I mean, whether at 50 years old, he's got the motivation to do that, which I think he I mean, by all reports, he's putting a lot of work on the practice table.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

这是令人鼓舞的迹象,表明他确实想要

This is encouraging signs I that he does want

Speaker 1

我认为这可能是唯一的出路。

think that's probably the only way out.

Speaker 1

就是要不断积累失误,努力找回那种已经深入骨髓的感觉,然后摆脱他所说的那种‘病’。

It's just to just to pile the errors in and just just get try and get something that's that's ingrained in you and and get rid of the disease as he calls it.

Speaker 1

我敢肯定,他一定厌倦了每天赛后谈论同样的事情,谈论他的斯诺克和那些。

I'm I'm sure he's he must be bored talking about the same day after matches talking about his snooker and that.

Speaker 1

我的意思是,他只想继续前进,我觉得,而且,公平地说,

Mean, it's like it's it's just wants to get on with that, I think, and and and Get to be fair.

Speaker 1

偶尔有闪光点。

Flashes of it.

Speaker 1

确实有闪光点。

There's flashes of it.

Speaker 1

我的意思是,你不可能像击败马克·塞尔比那样击败他,而你自己打得,你知道,像罗尼说的那样糟糕。

I mean, it's you can't beat Mark Selby the way you beat him, and you're playing, you know, as badly as as as as Ronnie said.

Speaker 1

但到了下一场比赛,你就被常冰玉轻松击败了。

But then you go the next match, and and and you get pretty comfortably beaten by Chang Bingyu.

Speaker 2

是啊,问题就在这儿,对吧?

Well, this is the thing, isn't it?

Speaker 2

每次我们讨论罗尼的危机,其实还是在说一个能击败马克·塞尔比的人。

Every time we ever talk about a crisis for for Ronnie, you're still talking about someone that is good enough to beat Mark Selby.

Speaker 2

就像我们之前说的,他的那些问题,换成世界上其他任何斯诺克选手,都巴不得有呢。

Like, he's the problems he has, we've said it before, are problems which pretty much any other snooker player in the world would still swap with.

Speaker 2

所以其实没什么好担心的。

So there's not a lot to worry about.

Speaker 2

只是罗尼身上总有这种肥皂剧的感觉,要是他没赢下每场比赛,他的反应就会特别极端。

It's just there is always this soap opera element with Monty where if he's not winning every match, his response is quite extreme.

Speaker 2

他对自己比任何人都苛刻。

He's harsher on himself than anyone ever would be.

Speaker 2

我觉得这也是他性格的一部分吧。

And that's part of his personality as well, I suppose.

Speaker 2

我想这就是为什么我们经常听到他这么说。

I guess that's why we hear it so much from him.

Speaker 3

是的,这对他来说很了不起,在他职业生涯的这个阶段,他仍然在深入钻研那些细节,寻找额外的优势,因为他还想继续竞争。

Yeah, it's a credit to him still now at this stage of his career, the fact that he's still going down those rabbit holes looking for those extra margins because he wants to still compete.

Speaker 3

这才是根本。

That's the bottom line.

Speaker 3

他想竞争,而且他真的想打好比赛。

He wants to compete and he wants to actually play well.

Speaker 3

这也说明,像这样技术要求极高的运动,一旦你在场上开始多想,麻烦就大了。

And it just goes to show that a game that is so technically demanding, the second you start thinking out there, you're in big trouble.

Speaker 3

一切都得靠本能反应,靠肌肉记忆。而现在罗尼在思考他技术的不同环节,这反而产生了负面影响。

It has to happen instinctively, it's got to be muscle memory, at the minute Ronnie is thinking about different elements of his technique and that is having a detrimental effect.

Speaker 2

这件事真的很有意思。

It's very interesting this thing.

Speaker 2

好像很多运动都是这样。

It seems like it's the case with a lot of sports.

Speaker 2

如果你在场上想太多,不管是网球还是其他个人项目,你可能会僵住。

If you are there thinking, whether it's tennis or certainly individual sports, you're thinking too much, then you can sort of seize up.

Speaker 2

你没法

You can't

Speaker 1

思考,对。

think, yeah.

Speaker 2

而罗尼的情况是,他是那种——我想我们得说,他是有史以来最伟大的天赋型选手。

And the whole thing with Ronnie is that he's one of the well, I suppose we would say he is the greatest ever natural player.

Speaker 2

比如,他的职业生涯中,他从来不会在场上想下一步该怎么做,下一步该怎么做。

Like, his career, he's not been there thinking what to do next, what to do next.

Speaker 2

他就像所有运动中的真正传奇一样,直接上场就干。

He's just like all the true greats in any sport, he just goes out there and does it.

Speaker 2

这就是他职业生涯百分之九十五的时间里能成功的原因。

And that's what worked for him for ninety five percent of his career.

Speaker 2

但事情就是这样。

But there we go.

Speaker 2

我们拭目以待吧。

We'll see.

Speaker 2

我仍然觉得你预测他今年会赢得某个锦标赛,这很可能是个不错的预测,但我们还得看看。

I still think that your prediction that he'll win some tournament this year is probably a good one, but we'll have to see.

Speaker 2

我们之前简单提过吴宜泽,只是因为他没进入第二轮比赛,所以只是简单提了一下。

We've mentioned very briefly, Wu Yeezy, we only mentioned him briefly because he wasn't in the tournament beyond the first round.

Speaker 2

他输给了阿尔忒弥斯·齐金斯,这个名字我们提过一两次,但显然是个大冷门。

He lost to Artemis Zissins, whose name has come up once or twice, but obviously a big surprise.

Speaker 2

然后齐金斯本应该击败斯蒂芬·马奎尔,结果从4比1领先被逆转,最终4比5输掉了。

And Zizens then should have beaten Stephen Maguire, lost five four from four one up.

Speaker 2

所以对他来说,这届比赛还挺有意思的。

So quite an interesting tournament from him.

Speaker 2

他是我们之前提过一两次的选手,对吧?

He's a player that we've we've mentioned once or twice before, isn't he?

Speaker 2

但可能之前不会想到他能打出这样的表现。

But probably wouldn't have backed him to do this.

Speaker 3

不,我也挺喜欢他的。

No, I like him as well.

Speaker 3

我对齐津斯有点偏爱,你知道,他是个年轻小伙子。

I've got a bit of a soft spot for Zizins, you know, he's a young lad.

Speaker 3

他在场馆里总是独来独往。

He keeps himself to himself when he's hanging around the venue.

Speaker 3

他非常专注。

He's very dedicated.

Speaker 3

他看起来也很投入。

He looks very involved as well.

Speaker 3

他给人的感觉不是那种天赋异禀的球员,但他有一项做得特别好,就是连续得分能力很强。

It doesn't strike you as the most naturally gifted player, but one thing he does do well is he scores heavy.

Speaker 3

我们一直在强调现在连续得分的重要性,但这确实是职业斯诺克成功的关键。

Again, we keep banging this drum about heavy scoring nowadays, but it's absolutely the key to success in professional snooker now.

Speaker 3

如果你能连续得分,不管对手是谁都没关系,而且他显然击败了世界冠军,这对他的信心是个很大的提升。

If you can score heavy, it doesn't matter who you play, and obviously took down the world champion, that's a big confidence booster for him.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

确实,像你说的,击败世界冠军,这分量可不轻。

Mean, obviously beating the world champion, as you say, yeah, massive.

Speaker 2

你觉得那场输给马奎尔的比赛,当时你可是大比分领先,4比1,我记得好像还领先59分,结果却失误了?

Do you you think think losing that match to Maguire having been, you know, commanding lead four four one, and then I think it was 59 points up and and missed one?

Speaker 2

对于年轻选手来说,这种经历会一直困扰你吗?还是说其实没那么严重?

Is for a young player, is that something that haunts you, or is it more?

Speaker 2

你能从中吸取教训吗?

Can you learn from that?

Speaker 2

而且,他一开始就处于获胜的位置,这肯定能给他带来信心。

And because surely it takes confidence from the fact that he was in that winning position to start with.

Speaker 3

你得亲身经历那种结果和感受,才能真正从中学习,对吧?

You've got to be on the receiving end of those sort of results and experiences to learn from them, haven't you?

Speaker 3

你懂的。

You know?

Speaker 3

如果他不经历这些,他怎么进步呢?你想想,输掉那场比赛后回到更衣室,整个人都崩溃了,但他会变得更强大,会从中吸取教训,然后重新出发。

How is he ever gonna improve if he doesn't, you know, go back to the dressing room, absolutely distraught, having lost that match, you know, he'll come back stronger and he'll learn from it and go again.

Speaker 1

对。

Yep.

Speaker 2

对。

Yep.

Speaker 2

这比赛挺有意思的,对吧?

Cool game, isn't it?

Speaker 2

你能在这儿说,他彻底崩溃了反而是好事。

Where when you can be talking about it and saying, it's good for him that he's absolutely devastated.

Speaker 2

但这话确实没错。

But that is true.

Speaker 2

我觉得,没有什么比这些失败更能让人成长了,尤其是在……

Nothing builds you up like these defeats, I suppose, in in the

Speaker 1

长期来看,你从胜利中学习。

long You learn from winning.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

没错。

Exactly.

Speaker 1

你总是能从失败中学到东西,虽然这有点遗憾。

You You always you always learn from from losing, unfortunately.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

所以我们刚才已经聊到了贾德,他需要赢下那场比赛才能保住第一的位置,现在他掉下来了。

So we've we've sort of already talked about the fact that Judd, who who needed to win that to keep hold of top spot, is now off.

Speaker 2

现在第一是赵心童,他领先的差距其实不算大。

Number one, Zhao Xintong is number one now by he's got a substantial well, actually, not much of a gap.

Speaker 2

尼尔·罗伯逊还奇怪地排在第二,然后就是吴宜泽、塞尔比、特朗普。

Neil Robertson, weirdly, is still tucked in there in second, and then you've got Wu Yeeza, Selby, Trump.

Speaker 2

但感觉赵心童会在这个第一的位置上待一阵子。

But it feels as if Zhao Xintong is gonna occupy that top spot for a while now.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我是说,显然每周都有一些奖金很高的大型赛事。

I mean, there's some obviously big big money tournaments in any one week.

Speaker 1

如果这些选手中有谁第一轮就出局,而另一位选手最终夺冠,显然排名就会发生变化。

If one of these guys loses in the first round and another one goes on to win it, obviously, it can it can change.

Speaker 1

你还是得保持稳定发挥。

You've still gotta be consistent.

Speaker 1

不能躺在功劳簿上。

You can't sort of rest in your laurels.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

不过,确实可以看到这五位选手,彼此之间的差距都不大。所以,是的。

But, yeah, you can see five five players there, you know, all all within touch and distance of each So Yeah.

Speaker 1

就像我说的,可能只需要一次机会,你知道,贾德在中国公开赛第一轮就出局了,显然对他来说代价很大。

As I say, it could just just takes one you know, Judd losing the first round in the China Open was obviously, you know, expensive for him.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

我们之前也说过,你可以赢一个比赛,但如果那不是合适的时间合适的那场比赛,然后下一场比赛第一轮就出局了,那损失就大得多了。

And we've said it before, you can win a tournament, but if it's not the right tournament at the right time, and then you go out the next round, first round of the next tournament, that's much more costly than

Speaker 3

对。

yeah.

Speaker 3

不过,顶尖选手之间的排名会波动得很厉害。

There's gonna be a lot of yo yoing at at the top, though.

Speaker 3

我们可以看到,排名第一和第五之间只差150美元。

We can see that just a $150 separates one and five in the rankings.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

你知道,现在大多数比赛,你拿到冠军就能拿到那么多奖金。

You know, most tournaments now, you're picking up that for for the top price.

Speaker 3

所以这五个小伙子之间会有一场非常精彩的较量,看谁能把别人挤下去。

So it's gonna be a great, great battle between the five lads see to who's gonna sort of be jostling one another out of way.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

感觉我们可能会看到多个世界第一,而且很可能在同一赛季内出现,这很令人兴奋。

It feels as if we could see multiple number ones well, we probably will see multiple number ones in the same season, which is exciting.

Speaker 2

我们很久没遇到这种情况了。

We've not had that

Speaker 1

确实有一阵子了。

for a bit.

Speaker 1

有个很明显的事实是,辛彤和吴宇苏基本上什么比赛都参加。

It's gonna be an intimate fact that, obviously, Xintong and Wu Yusu tend to play in everything.

Speaker 1

另外三个人有时候会挑着打。

The other three sometimes pick and choose.

Speaker 1

有意思的是,看看他们这赛季还会不会保持这种策略,世界第一对他们来说有多重要,因为有时候马克·塞尔比也会跳过一些比赛。

Interesting to see if they still have that strategy over this season, if if the how much the world number one means to them, but whether because there's been times where Mark Selby skipped tournaments.

Speaker 1

罗伯逊过去也跳过一些比赛,贾德也一样。

Robertson has skipped tournaments in the past, so has Judd.

Speaker 2

武汉站还有很多值得聊的。

There was plenty more to talk about in Wuhan.

Speaker 2

所以我们简单提一下其他几位选手。

So we'll just quickly touch on a couple of other players.

Speaker 2

赵心童,显然,输掉了他在武汉的首场比赛,这是自2023年以来的第一次。

Zhao Xintong, obviously, lost his first Wuhan match since 2023.

Speaker 2

他之前可是连续赢了两届。

He'd won he'd won back to back ones.

Speaker 2

我觉得,能卫冕一次就已经很难了。

It's difficult enough to defend the tournament at all, I suppose.

Speaker 2

要连续卫冕两次,那就更难了。

Very difficult to defend it for a second time.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我是说,能打进半决赛,这表现真是太棒了。

I mean, just what what a performance to get to the semifinals.

Speaker 1

他连续两年夺冠,然后又一次成功卫冕,这防守真是了不起。

I mean, he won it two years in a and then then I mean, tremendous another tremendous defense Yeah.

Speaker 1

对自己的冠军头衔的防守。

Of his of his title.

Speaker 1

我是说,显然,这对他来说就是那种让他感觉特别自在的比赛。

I mean, obviously, just it's just one of these tournaments where he just feels feels feels comfortable.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

这真的非常非常令人印象深刻。

It's very, very impressive.

Speaker 1

显然,威廉姆斯在上一轮错过了一个很简单的蓝球,没能击败他。

Obviously, Williams missed a pretty easy blue to to beat him in the in the round before.

Speaker 1

但是,是的,我对贾德·曲东的表现印象非常深刻。

But, yeah, really impressed with Jal Qudong.

Speaker 3

有意思的是,你看,他在场上打得确实非常好。

It was interesting to to see, you know, again, just how well he was playing out there.

Speaker 3

史蒂文,不说那些显而易见的,比如克鲁斯堡对你来说肯定是,你总是期待第二年回去卫冕的场馆或赛事是哪个?

Steven, without stating the obvious the crucible being the obvious one for for you, was what venue or event did you always look forward to going back the next year to defend?

Speaker 1

我很喜欢大师赛的老会议中心,我在那里也有过一段非常辉煌的经历。

I'd love the the old conference center for the masters, which I had a great had a great run there as well.

Speaker 1

我记得我前五次都赢了。

I think I won the first five times.

Speaker 1

但就是,对。

But I just yeah.

Speaker 1

我就是很喜欢。

I I love to

Speaker 2

那你卫冕那个冠军应该没什么压力吧。

You didn't have too much trouble defending that title then.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我喜欢,我喜欢那种大型的场馆,你知道的,我似乎就是喜欢那种。

I love I love the I love the sort of the the big the bigger venues, the big the big you know, I seem to like yeah.

Speaker 1

克鲁斯堡,还有那些我转职业之前在电视上看过的所有场馆。

The the the crucible, the all the venues I've watched on TV before I turned pro.

Speaker 1

所有这些大型赛事,我都迫不及待想去参加。

All these big tournaments, and I couldn't wait to get there and play them.

Speaker 1

但是,确实,有些场馆我就是打不好。

But, yeah, you just there was venues where I just I didn't play well.

Speaker 1

我也说不清,

I can't you

Speaker 2

你知道,就是有那么几个。

know, there was a few.

Speaker 3

但你会开始想,这是我的主场。

But start to think, this is my venue.

Speaker 3

这是我的赛事。

This is my event.

Speaker 3

没人能打败我。

No one's beating me.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

还是说就是一场一场地打?

Or was it just like one game at a time?

Speaker 2

那肯定是另一场比赛。

It must be another event.

Speaker 1

嗯,我是说,九十年代的克鲁斯堡。

Well, yeah, I mean, crucible in the nineties.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我是说,九十年代的时候,我的烟斗和拖鞋就放在桌子底下,那时候真是好时光。

I mean, my pipe and slippers under the table in the '90s, it was like yeah, it was that was great times.

Speaker 2

还有你的直升机在外面等着。

And your helicopter waiting outside.

Speaker 3

现在我的拖鞋都拿出来了。

My slippers out now.

Speaker 1

不过,是的,这真是个奇怪的现象。

But, yes, it's a strange phenomenon.

Speaker 1

比如说,约翰·加东,他并不是以连续夺冠著称的,但那一届比赛,两次决赛,然后一次半决赛,真是太不可思议了。

Mean, like, say, John Gadong, he's not been known for he's certainly not a serial winner, but that one tournament, two finals, and then a semifinal is just extraordinary.

Speaker 2

还有几个其他名字。

And a couple of other names.

Speaker 2

嗯,利亚姆·戴维斯在第一轮击败了丁俊晖。

Well, Liam Davis beat Ding in the first round.

Speaker 2

显然,丁俊晖可能状态有所下滑,不在最佳水平了。

Obviously, Ding maybe is fading a little bit from his best form.

Speaker 2

然后他击败了加里·威尔逊。

He then beat Gary Wilson.

Speaker 2

之后他只是以三比五输给了尼尔·罗伯逊。

He then only lost five-three to Neil Robertson.

Speaker 2

所以,利亚姆·戴维斯一直,你知道,他是和另一个利亚姆,利亚姆·普伦一起成长起来的。

So, Liam Davis has always you know, he's come up along with the other Liam, Liam Pullen.

Speaker 2

看到这些年轻球员在大赛中崭露头角,真是太好了。

It's it's good to see these young players getting on a a little bit of running in a in a big tournament.

Speaker 1

利亚姆·戴维斯是个很有天赋的球员。

Talented player, Liam Davis.

Speaker 1

我喜欢他击球的方式。

I like the way he hits the ball.

Speaker 1

他显然,你知道,为了保住巡回赛的席位,一直在努力拼搏。

He's obviously dropped, you know, a battle to keep his place on the tour.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

但我觉得他很有天赋。

But but think he's I think he's got a lot of talent.

Speaker 1

当然,你需要成绩来证明自己。

You obviously need results.

Speaker 1

光有天赋是不够的。

Talent alone is not going get you there.

Speaker 1

但他在这次比赛中证明了自己有能力击败顶尖选手。

So but he showed this tournament that he's capable of beating the top blames.

Speaker 1

所以,是的,我觉得他是个不错的球员。

So, yeah, I think he's a decent player.

Speaker 3

几周前他在英格兰公开赛上赢了我,那之后他显然信心大增。

He beat me in the English Open a few weeks ago, he's obviously taken loads of confidence from that.

Speaker 3

所以……

So

Speaker 1

我就说到这儿吧。

I'll leave it there.

Speaker 2

一旦你击败了史蒂文·霍尔沃斯这样的高手,

Once you've got the scalp of Steven Hallworth

Speaker 3

那确实是个了不起的胜利。

It's a big scalp.

Speaker 2

霍尔沃斯这块大肥肉,真是够闪亮的。

Huge, shiny scalp of Hallworth.

Speaker 3

不,其实他人挺好的,利亚姆。

No, he's a nice lad actually, Liam.

Speaker 3

他的整体技术非常扎实全面。

Got a really good, solid all round game.

Speaker 3

作为年轻选手,他非常成熟稳重。

A young player, he's got a very mature head on his shoulders.

Speaker 3

我对利亚姆唯一的担心是,他看起来非常投入,我的意思是,从技术动作上看,击球后的随挥非常明显,我有点担心这会不会在将来限制他的发展,但目前来看,他正走在正确的轨道上,会成为一个真正优秀的选手。

My only fear for Liam is that he looks quite involved, and when I say that, I mean technically everything looks very pronounced behind the shot, and I just wonder if that will hold him back in years to come, but at the minute, he's going on the right trajectory, he's going become a real good player.

Speaker 2

又是那个问题,可能想得有点太多了。

That thing again of maybe thinking a little bit too hard about.

Speaker 3

对,他看起来就是非常专注于自己正在做的事情,目前这很好,因为很有效,但你知道,当状态不好的时候,这会不会成为他的阻碍?

Yeah, he just looks like he's just quite invested in what he's doing, which at the minute is great because it's working, but you know, when it's not going well, is that gonna hold him back?

Speaker 3

我们也不知道。

We don't know.

Speaker 3

时间会证明一切。

Time will tell.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

我们快速看一下梦幻五人的情况。

We'll quickly check-in on Fantasy five.

Speaker 2

嗯,当常冰玉赢的时候,我还挺得意的,但后来一查,其实我们三个人都选了他。

Well, I felt pretty smug when Chang Bingyu won, but then having checked, all three of us in fact have him in the team.

Speaker 2

所以没什么变化。

So not much change there.

Speaker 2

你们俩也选了赵心童。

You two also have Zhao Xintong.

Speaker 2

所以你们俩都有这两个人。

So you've got both of them.

Speaker 1

这是一场精彩的决赛,对我们来说很精彩。

It's a good final, a good final for us.

Speaker 2

对,对我来说可没那么好。

Yeah, not so much for me.

Speaker 2

我选的全是英格兰选手,特朗普和威尔逊。

I've gone English, all English with Trump and Wilson.

Speaker 2

我选了庞俊旭,还有常冰玉。

I've got, well, I've obviously got Pang Jungsoo and then Chang Bingyu.

Speaker 2

不过,我又看了一眼。

But yeah, just glancing down again.

Speaker 2

当然,史蒂文·霍尔沃斯的队伍里肯定有他自己。

Of course, Steven Hallworth's team involves includes Steven Hallworth.

Speaker 3

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

你知道吗,我在武汉这一周真是喜忧参半。因为我显然选对了决赛选手,赵心童和常冰玉,所以我在那里拿到了积分,但我在资格赛里淘汰了张安达,然后因为自己孩子出生不得不退赛。

You know, it's it's kind of bittersweet my Wuhan week because obviously I picked the perfect final Zhao Xintong and Chang Bingyu, so I picked up points there, but I knocked Zhang Ander out in the qualifiers and then I had to withdraw because of the birth of my own child.

Speaker 2

真是难以置信。

Unbelievable stuff.

Speaker 2

你让自己丢了分,还让自己损失了真金白银。

You've cost yourself points, you've cost yourself real life money.

Speaker 2

太不可思议了。

Unbelievable.

Speaker 2

是啊。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

我觉得,你只能摊开双手承认,那时候就不该要孩子。

I mean, I suppose you've just got to hold your hands up and say, shouldn't have had the baby then.

Speaker 3

这就是时机问题,

It's timing,

Speaker 1

对吧?

isn't it?

Speaker 2

对,确实如此。

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1

马克·艾伦现在看起来不是最佳选择。

Mark Allen's not looking the best choice at the moment.

Speaker 3

是啊,那选人情况怎么样?

No, how's selection looking there?

Speaker 2

对,我——

Yeah, I-

Speaker 3

其实看到他这样挺遗憾的,因为他已经退出了接下来的一些比赛。

It's a shame actually to see him because he's withdrawn from a few other events coming up.

Speaker 3

所以很明显马克那边有点不对劲。

So obviously something's not quite right with Mark.

Speaker 3

看着挺可惜的。

It's a shame to see.

Speaker 2

确实,是啊。

It is, yeah.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

所以我们当然希望他能尽快恢复最佳状态。

So we hope to see him back to his best sooner, of course.

Speaker 2

说到即将到来的赛事,UniVet英国公开赛今年又回来了,当然还是在第五频道直播。

Well, speaking of upcoming events, the UniVet British Open is back for another year, live on channel five, of course.

Speaker 2

史蒂文,这是不是一种不同的策略?或者我想说,史蒂文,如果你知道自己无法追踪抽签结果,每次都是随机的,那你会怎么应对?

And is it a different approach, Steven, you, or I suppose either, Steven, if you know that you can't track the draw, it's just random every time.

Speaker 2

我想你之前总是说你不会看那么远,但有时候球员们这么说其实是在撒谎。

I suppose you've tended to say you didn't look that far ahead anyway, but it's also come up that sometimes players say that and they're lying.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我真的很喜欢你们的赛事。

I really like your event.

Speaker 1

我觉得它很特别,你知道吗?

I think it's different, you know?

Speaker 1

是的,确实很特别。

Yeah, it's different.

Speaker 1

我觉得我们需要不同的赛事,尤其是在英国,这样能保持大家的兴趣。

I think we need different events, certainly in The UK in terms of events, just to sort of keep keep the interest.

Speaker 1

不过,是的,我确实很期待英国本赛季的第一场大型赛事。

But but, yeah, I'm looking looking forward to, obviously, the first first tournament of the season in in in The UK, sort of for some big tournament.

Speaker 1

就像你说的,第五频道直播,明天就开始转播了。

As you say, live in Channel five, so let's start the broadcasting tomorrow.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

这次赛事一开始就有很多有趣的对决。

There's some very interesting stuff early in the event.

Speaker 2

肖恩·墨菲对阵布莱恩·埃文斯。

Sean Murphy plays Brianne Evans.

Speaker 2

沃克林对阵卢卡·珀塞尔,卢卡一直是个谜,而沃克林最近状态……

Wakelin against Luca Purcell, the enigma, the ongoing enigma of of Luka against a Wakelin who's been, you know, who's had such

Speaker 1

克里斯·亨利表现不错,卢卡·布雷塞尔。

good Chris Henry, Luka Bracel.

Speaker 1

他和克里斯·亨利一起回来了。

He's back with Chris Henry.

Speaker 1

所以我们很期待看看这是否能帮助他重新找回竞争力。

So so we'll be interested to see if if if that does anything to sort of get him back to being competitive again.

Speaker 1

因为我们都知道卢卡·布雷塞尔多有天赋。

Because we all know how talented Luca Brasel is.

Speaker 1

他的天赋几乎不输给巡回赛上的任何人。

He's got as much talent as almost anyone on the circuit.

Speaker 1

当他状态好的时候,看他打球真是让人着迷。

And when he plays well, he's irresistible to watch.

Speaker 1

太厉害了。

Huge.

Speaker 2

真希望他能重新回到那个状态。

Just love to see him get back to that.

Speaker 1

他需要让自己的职业生涯重回正轨。

He needs to get his career back on track.

Speaker 1

他现在在做什么?

What is he doing right where he is?

Speaker 1

说实话,这简直太离谱了。

I mean, it's just ridiculous, quite frankly.

Speaker 2

确实很奇怪。

It's very odd.

Speaker 2

而且,看他状态全开的时候,那种兴奋感,就像我们之前说的,真是太棒了。

And the excitement of watching someone like that when he's in full swing really is, as we said before, fantastic.

Speaker 2

所以我们希望他能做到。

So let's hope he does.

Speaker 2

也许这次比赛他能稍微找回状态。

Maybe this is the tournament where he gets back on track a little bit.

Speaker 2

约翰·希金斯第一轮就要上场了。

John Higgins plays in the first round.

Speaker 2

那场比赛应该会很精彩。

That would be a good one.

Speaker 2

马克·威廉姆斯对阵戴夫·吉尔伯特。

Mark Williams against Dave Gilbert.

Speaker 2

你还可以在wst.tv/tickets买到票。

You can still get tickets at wst.tv/tickets.

Speaker 2

而且,是的,如果你在英国,可以在第五频道观看直播。

And, yes, if you're in The UK, you can watch it live on five.

Speaker 2

全球各地的观看方式详情,请访问wst.tv。

Details of where to watch around the world are available at wst.tv.

Speaker 2

我要你们俩都来预测一下这场比赛的胜者。

I'll put you both on the spot for a predicted winner of this one.

Speaker 3

我。

Me.

Speaker 3

因为我也在签表里,为什么不呢?

Because I'm in the draw, and why not?

Speaker 2

完全正确。

Absolutely right.

Speaker 1

我觉得你可以相信自己。

I'd say, you can back yourself.

Speaker 2

你生孩子了?

You've had a baby?

Speaker 2

这没那么难。

That's it isn't as hard as that.

Speaker 1

关键是,这种赛事,只要你能赢几场,坚持到后面,对,就是那种感觉。

The thing is, it's one it's one of those events where if you can just win matches and stay hang around till the Yeah.

Speaker 1

到了周末,你可能会发现自己正好在对的时间出现在对的地方。

End of the week that that that you that you you could find yourself you've been at the right place at the right time.

Speaker 1

有人出局了,你就给自己一个机会去拼一把。

People have gone out and give yourself an opportunity doing something.

Speaker 1

这周就是这样的。

It's it's one of those weeks.

Speaker 3

嗯,你看看这个比赛。

Well, you look at you look at it.

Speaker 3

对吧?

Right?

Speaker 3

你有可能赢得这次比赛,而且你可能不会遇到排名前16的选手。

You could win this tournament, and you don't you might not play a top 16 player.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

事实就是这样。

That is the reality of it.

Speaker 3

你可能会抽到任何人。

You could draw anyone.

Speaker 3

所以你只需要进入

So you just gotta be in the

Speaker 1

抽签名单。

draw.

Speaker 1

没错。

Exactly.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

嗯,这很公平。

Well, it's fair enough.

Speaker 2

我的意思是,两周后,如果我们做下一期节目,我们就会聊你在切尔滕纳姆夺冠的事。

Mean, in two weeks time, if we are doing the next episode, we're talking about you winning in Cheltenham.

Speaker 2

那将会是

It will be a

Speaker 3

很棒的,我恐怕。

great I'm afraid.

Speaker 1

好吧,我的意思是,你有一个很好的理由不待在家里,基本上。

Well, got I mean, you got a good incentive to stay away from home, basically.

Speaker 1

比如,换尿布和晚上睡不好觉。

Like, nappies and cannot sleep as night show.

Speaker 1

别的。

Other.

Speaker 3

我会去那家酒店登记入住,然后就像……

I'd be checking into that hotel and be like

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

真的,你从来没有过这样的动力。

You truly, you've never had a motivator like it.

Speaker 2

你在比赛中活得越久,除非你在照顾……

The longer you can stay alive in the tournament, unless you're looking after

Speaker 3

不过你现在得为你心爱的死去的人赢一把。

your your beloved dead to win now, though.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

对不起,亲爱的。

Sorry, darling.

Speaker 2

又赢了一场。

Another win.

Speaker 2

不客气。

I'm, welcome.

Speaker 2

祝你好运。

Good luck.

Speaker 2

所以霍尔沃斯在切尔滕纳姆追逐终极奖品,不只是钱或排名积分,而是睡眠。

So Hallworth chasing the ultimate prize in Cheltenham, not just the money or the ranking points, but sleep.

Speaker 2

在酒店里睡觉。

Sleep in a hotel.

Speaker 1

不过,我给你个建议。

I'll I'll give you a tip, though.

Speaker 1

如果你在酒店打电话回家,千万别对你老婆说,哦,我得挂了。

If you're in a hotel and you phone home, don't ever say, oh, I need to go now to to to your wife.

Speaker 1

我有点累了,因为那会让她不高兴的。

I'm I'm a bit tired because that will not be going down well.

Speaker 3

是的。

Yes.

Speaker 3

这可能是真的。

That's probably true.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

你接下来大概

You won't be able

Speaker 2

十六年都没法说自己累了,根据我的经验。

to claim that you're tired for the next, I would say, sixteen years based on my experience.

Speaker 3

有道理。

Fair enough.

Speaker 2

我们现在要接一些粉丝提问了。

We're gonna take some fan questions actually now.

Speaker 2

而且第一个问题其实也是关于这个话题的。

And this first one is on the same topic, in fact.

Speaker 2

不得不说,这个播客的粉丝们反应真快。

They don't hang around, I must say, the fans of this podcast.

Speaker 2

这是多萝西发来的。

It's from Dorothy.

Speaker 2

她说:史蒂夫,恭喜你有了宝宝。

She says, Congratulations, Steve, on the baby.

Speaker 2

还要多久她才能参加女子巡回赛?

How long is it before she makes it on the women's tour?

Speaker 2

估计你还没怎么跟她练过吧。

Presumably, you've not done a lot of work with her or not.

Speaker 2

录这期节目的时候她还没去过你家呢,所以她的击球技术肯定还不行。

She's not even been to your house yet at the time of recording this, so can't her cue action won't be up to it yet.

Speaker 3

对,这周我们在医院做了点技术指导,就是看看她的站位和击球前的准备动作,不过她还差得远呢。

Yeah, we've done a bit of technical work in the hospital this week, just looking at, you know, the approach and the pre shot routine, but yeah, she's a long way.

Speaker 3

听我说,这周真是疯狂的一周,作为她爸爸,我能做的就是引导她,让她想试什么就试什么。

Listen, you know, it's been the maddest week ever, and all I can do as her dad is guide her and let her try anything she wants.

Speaker 3

她要是咬咬牙选了斯诺克,那就随她去吧,让她自己闯,不过还是给她拿个网球拍或者什么的吧,对,高尔夫球杆也行。

With gritted teeth snooker is what she chooses, then every credit to her and let her crack on, but let's get a tennis racket or something that Yeah, golf club.

Speaker 3

对,高尔夫球杆。

Yeah, golf club,

Speaker 2

是的。

yeah.

Speaker 2

网球才是正道。

Tennis is the one.

Speaker 2

那行当钱多。

There's a lot of money in that.

Speaker 2

不过压力也大得很。

Although, enormous pressure as well.

Speaker 2

这个问题我们之前也聊过几次了,就是,还会有人能统治斯诺克吗?

Well, we've had this a couple of times, versions of this question, but will anyone ever dominate snooker?

Speaker 2

詹姆斯又问了一遍。

Again, asked James.

Speaker 2

看起来一个选手赢下四分之三赛事的日子已经过去了,我们说的部分原因是你这样的人,亨德利。

It seems like the days of one player winning three quarters of the events is done, and we're talking partly about people like you, Hendry.

Speaker 2

这是好事吗?

And is this a good thing?

Speaker 2

我觉得部分原因是,我们之前聊过,现在的比赛比以前多太多了。

I think partly, we've covered this before, there are far more tournaments than there used to be.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

想要统治一个赛季,不管你是多好的选手,就是做不到像以前那样了。

The idea of Of dominating a season, you have whatever however good a player you are, you still it just can't be done in the same way.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

我不觉得,我是说,我觉得,我想说,我认为赵心童,如果他保持饥饿感,不断进步,他已经很了不起了,但就是还能变得更好。

I I don't I I don't I mean, I I say I think, to say, I think Xintong, if he if he stays hungry and and and and he keeps staying improving, he's already unbelievable, but but sort of just just gets better.

Speaker 1

我觉得他有机会实现某种统治,比如一个赛季赢三四个冠军。

I think he's got a chance at some some sort of domination, maybe winning three, four tournaments a season.

Speaker 1

但话说回来,他们一年要打多少站比赛?十四、十五、十六站?

But say there's what what do they play in fourteen, fifteen, 16 events?

Speaker 1

所以没人能赢下其中四分之三的比赛。

So no one's gonna win three quarter of those.

Speaker 1

我觉得,我们之前也聊过几次这个话题。

I think I mean, and we've touched on that a few times.

Speaker 1

我认为未来中国选手肯定有机会形成统治局面。

I think there's there's a there's a definitely a chance in the future of Chinese domination.

Speaker 1

这一点毫无疑问。

There's no no doubt about that.

Speaker 1

但我说的是几年以后的事。

But I'm talking a few years up the road.

Speaker 3

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 3

我要反问詹姆斯的问题是,这得看情况吧?

My counter question to James would be how long is a piece of string?

Speaker 3

因为现在这个时候,你怎么可能回答得了这个问题呢?

Because how can you answer that question at this moment in time?

Speaker 3

目前看来好像没人能统治赛场,但谁知道呢,也许三五年后,有人会突然冒出来,然后开始赢下所有比赛?

It looks unlikely that anyone's going to dominate, but you know, who's to say that in, you know, three or four or five years' time that someone comes through the pack and, you know, starts starts winning everything?

Speaker 3

你知道,就现在来说,我觉得不太可能,但也不是没可能。

You know, right now, I don't think so, but it could happen.

Speaker 2

这稍微有点涉及到社交方面了。

This is slightly more about the sort of almost the social side of it.

Speaker 2

杰克,核弹级选手在中国比赛间隙都做些什么?

Jackass, what does nuclear players do in China between matches?

Speaker 2

你们是整天躺在床上,还是去感受当地文化?

Do you just sit in bed all day or go and soak up the culture?

Speaker 2

我们知道,亨德利,你肯定很喜欢在中国,你参与得挺深的。

We we know that, Hendry, well, you'd love being in China, you've you've sort of quite heavily involved.

Speaker 2

我想你之前说过,这因人而异。

I suppose you said before, it varies.

Speaker 2

有些球员真的很喜欢那里,他们在那儿很自在,也很享受那种氛围。

Some players really like it there, and they're comfortable there, and they embrace the atmosphere.

Speaker 2

而其他人,大概有些球员不怎么出酒店,就待在房间里之类的。

And other people Presumably, there are players that don't really venture out of the hotel and just kind of stay in the rooms and stuff.

Speaker 1

其实关键在于,你通常只在一个城市待大约一周,一周到十天,而且你是去工作的。

Well, the thing is that you're only in one city, really, for about a week, a week to ten days, and you're there to work.

Speaker 1

你不是去当游客的。

You're not there to be a tourist.

Speaker 1

你知道,不管你在中国的哪个城市,比赛场地里的球台就是那张球台,你就是在酒店、练习台和赛场之间来回跑,去打比赛。

Know, you're there it doesn't matter that when you're in China, the table is a table in the arena, and you go between your hotel to the practice table to the venue to play a match.

Speaker 1

你可能会出去吃个饭什么的。

You go out for dinner or whatever.

Speaker 1

我觉得在比赛期间,很多球员不会去做游客的事情,也不会去感受什么文化。

Don't think during the I don't think during the tournament, many of the players are are doing touristy stuff and and and taking the culture.

Speaker 1

因为他们去那里是为了赢得比赛。

Because they're there to win the tournament.

Speaker 1

他们去那里,你知道的,是为了工作。

They're they're they're to you know, they're there to work.

Speaker 1

那是他们的工作。

It's their job.

Speaker 1

他们不是去度假的。

They're not there for a holiday.

Speaker 2

实际上,你手上空闲的时间并没有你想象的那么多,因为你得花不少时间练习,然后下午还得想象一下比赛。

There's not actually as much time hanging around on your hands as you would think, presumably, because you're you're gonna be practicing a fair bit, and then you've got to imagine in the afternoon.

Speaker 2

所以并不是说你有大把的时间要打发,我想确实是这样。

So it's not as if you're actually you're not there with days on end to fill, I suppose, really.

Speaker 2

而且

And

Speaker 3

实际上,说到现在的具体情况,我不知道你那时候怎么样,斯蒂芬,但我们每天被安排两次三十分钟的上桌训练。

actually, to go into sort of the nitty gritty of it nowadays, I don't know what it was like, Stephen, when you was out there, but we were assigned like two thirty minute sessions a day on the table.

Speaker 3

你可以预约自己的训练时间,然后得等至少两个小时才能进行下一次训练。

You're allowed to book your session, then you've got to wait at least two hours for your next session.

Speaker 3

所以基本上,你不比赛的时候,整天就是围着训练时间转。

So basically, your whole day when you're not actually competing is basically just arranged around your practice time.

Speaker 3

我打完球,然后出去吃点东西,再回来继续训练,感觉整个人都泡在斯诺克里了。

I'm playing then, then I pop out for some food to get back, go from practice then, and it kind of is all about snooker.

Speaker 3

就像斯蒂芬说的,到了那边,一切都是以工作为重。

Like Stephen says, it's all about work when you're out there.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

这大概跟球员们的日常安排没什么两样。

It's it's probably no different to, you know, the the routines of players.

Speaker 1

在那边和这周在切尔滕纳姆也没什么区别。

No different out there to to hear Cheltenham this week.

Speaker 1

他们一直忙着,日程基本都差不多。

They've been busy with the same pretty much the same routine.

Speaker 1

显然在上海,那是个更繁华的城市之类的。

It's obviously in Shanghai, you're a bit of a more glamorous city or whatever it is.

Speaker 1

而且可能餐馆的选择也更多。

And there's maybe more choice to to to for restaurants or whatever.

Speaker 1

更有趣,也许食物更让人兴奋。

More excitement, maybe it's more exciting food.

Speaker 1

我不太清楚。

I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1

但我觉得,我确实知道食物更让人兴奋。

But I'm well, I I do know it is more exciting food.

Speaker 1

这是我的看法。

That's my opinion.

Speaker 1

所以,哦,

So Oh,

Speaker 2

对。

yeah.

Speaker 2

你已经多次表达过我的观点了。

You've given my opinion many times.

Speaker 2

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

但确实是这样。

But but it's but it is.

Speaker 1

确实是的。

It's yeah.

Speaker 1

无论你在世界哪个角落都一样。

It doesn't matter where you are in the world.

Speaker 1

对斯诺克选手来说,基本上就是日复一日的相同流程。

It's just basically for a snooker player, it's the same routine day in, day out.

Speaker 2

是的。

Yeah.

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