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Hello.
欢迎收听《斯诺克现场》播客。
Welcome to the Snooker Scene Podcast.
我是戴夫·亨顿。
I'm Dave Hendon.
我们又迎来了新的一周，这周斯诺克赛事很精彩。
We're here for another week, and it's a big week of snooker.
我们期待深圳公开赛的到来。
We got the Shenzhen open to look forward to.
冠军奖金是17.7万英镑，这个数字听起来有点奇怪，但当然，这比其他一些中国赛事，比如国际锦标赛，要多出几千英镑。
It's a bit torment this 177,000 to the winner, which, you know, sounds like a sort odd first prize, but then, of course, it's a couple of grand more than some of the other Chinese events that we're on open, I think the international championship as well.
这正好说明，赛事主办方喜欢互相竞争，看谁能举办大型赛事。
So it just shows you that promoters like to sort of bid against each other to see who can have the the big tournaments.
去年这个比赛还叫香格里拉大奖赛，马克·威廉姆斯拿了冠军，确实是年龄最大的排名赛冠军，50岁。
It was the Xiang Grand Prix as we know last year, Mark Williams, the winner, indeed the oldest ranked winner at 50.
但现在比赛搬到了深圳，那可是肖国栋的主场。
But he's moved to Shenzhen, which is the home of Xiao Zing Tong.
所以很明显，到时候肯定会有主场气氛，而且我相信他也会吸引很多关注。
So clearly, there'll be open heat as well, obviously, and I'm sure he'll bring a lot of attention to it.
深圳是个大城市，人口一千七百五十万，希望有很多人能到现场来看比赛。
And it's a huge city, Shenzhen, 17 and a half million population, so let's hope plenty of them find their way to the tour.
我就不花太多时间，甚至根本不花时间去做赛前预测了，因为大家听这个播客的时间都不一样。
I'm not gonna spend much time or any time really previewing it because people listen to this podcast at different times.
实际上，我收到过一些邮件，是来自未来的听众，他们说自己在听三年前的节目。
In fact, have emails from people in, you know, in the future as it were, know, saying, oh, well, I'm listening to one from three years ago.
所以现在做赛前预测没什么意义，只能说比赛会在英国TNT体育和HBO Max上直播。
So it makes no sense to preview it right now, except to say it's all live in The UK on TNT Sports and HBO Max.
欧洲的欧洲体育台也会直播，WST Play在多个地区也有直播，当然还有中国的电视和社交媒体平台。
It's live on Eurosport around Europe, it's live on WST Play in various territories, and indeed of course across Chinese television and social media as well.
WST官网会详细列出深圳公开赛的观看渠道。
The WST website will have a full rundown of where you can watch the Shenzhen Open.
所以我很期待这个比赛，而且这些中国赛事，这个赛季我们已经办了好几场了，有上海大师赛邀请赛，还有排名赛中国公开赛和世界公开赛。
So looking forward to that, and these Chinese events, I mean we've had a few already this season of course, we've had three Shanghai Masters Invitation event, the ranking events China Open and World Open.
这些都是大型赛事，显然对世界排名影响很大。
They're massive events, obviously they can make a huge difference to the world rankings.
我觉得从整体来看，尤其是从英国的角度——说实话，我们听到最多的就是英国的声音——这些赛事有时候会被忽视。
I think in the sort of scheme of things, can be certainly from a British viewpoint, which let's be honest is is one we hear most of all.
大家总是纠结，你知道，比口袋警察更无聊的只有观众警察了。
They can be a little bit sort of disregarded, know, and and people obsess about, well, there's only one thing more boring than the pocket police, and that's the the crowd police, you know.
哦，那是个五千座的场馆。
Oh, it's a it's a 5,000 seat arena.
为什么没坐满？
Why isn't it full?
那你自己想想吧。
Well, go figure.
现在是星期二早上。
It's it's a Tuesday morning.
你觉得呢？
What do you think?
不过话说回来，这些赛事规模很大。
But anyway, they're huge events.
不应该被忽视或轻视。
They should not be glossed over and disregarded.
这些都是大型锦标赛，我相信顶尖高手们都会全力以赴去夺冠。
These are massive tournaments, and I'm sure the great and the good will be doing their best to win it.
有趣的是，我上周提到过，这个赛季有点不寻常。
It'd be interesting to see I I mentioned last week, it's a kind of weird season.
这种趋势会继续吗？
Will that pattern continue?
会不会又有非前十六的选手夺冠，还是说一切会恢复正常？
Will another non top 16 player win it, or will sort of normal service be resumed?
你知道，嘉兴同在本土作战，能不能战胜吴易昺？这是不是他这个赛季开始发力的时刻？
You know, can Jiaxing Tong on very much home soil triumph Wu Yizi, is this the moment he starts to come good this season?
我们不知道。
We don't know.
当然，体育的魅力就在于结果未知。
And of course, as always in sport, the fun is finding out.
上周我确实设了一个竞赛问题，奖品是一本平装版的《一桶金》，答案和获胜者会在适当的时候公布。
Now, of course, I did last week set a competition question to win a paperback copy of Pots of Gold, and the answer will be revealed and the winner will be revealed in due course.
所以先吊着大家胃口，但本周的重头戏，如果我能这么说的话，是一个没人问过的问题，但我还是要回答。
So stringing people along needlessly, but the main feature, if I can call it that this week, it's a question nobody's asked, but I'm gonna answer it anyway.
谁是十年最佳球员？
Who is the player of the decade?
显然，2020年代还没结束。
Now the 2020 is obviously not over yet.
现在已经到了2026年，但我觉得，从这十年的前七年来看，我们已经能大致看出趋势了。
We're up to 2026, but we can have a good idea, I think from, you know, the first seven years of the decade, how it's sort of shaping up.
我做的事情是，我梳理了这十年来的各种数据，举个例子，胜场数是一个很简单的指标，夺冠次数、破百次数等等。
And what I've done is I've gone through various stats from the decade and well, I'll give you an example, most matches won is a very simple metric, most tournaments won, most centuries made, etcetera etcetera.
一共有九个类别，我会逐一过一遍。
There are nine categories, okay, that I'm gonna go through.
每个类别我会给出前五名。
I'm gonna give you the top five in each category.
而且我还，你知道，有些人真是虚度光阴。
But I've also and people, you know, some people waste their lives.
我还自己搞了一套排名系统来给选手排名，最后会有一个总排名，就是二十年代的前五名。
I've also come up with my own ranking system to rank the players and there'll be an overall ranking list who are the it's actually a top five of the twenty twenties.
明白吗？
Okay?
这个排名系统，是我自己想出来的，其实我是回到了老派做法，因为现在关于排名系统的讨论太多了，大部分都很无聊，说实话。
Now the ranking system, say I've come up with myself, it's actually I've gone back old school because there's a lot of chat about the the ranking system and blah blah blah, most of it dull, let's be honest.
但八十年代的老派排名系统是这样的，如果你想给一项赛事排名，比如你赢了英国锦标赛，你得六分。
But the old school ranking system from the eighties, you would get if you want to rank an event, say you won the UK championship, you got six points.
是的，没错，你得六分。
Yes, did, you got six points.
如果你是第二名，就得五分，以此类推，一直到第32名。
If you're a runner, you got five and so on and so on, down to the last 32.
我稍微调整了一下这个规则，明白吗？
I've slightly tweaked that, okay?
所以如果你在任何一个榜单上排第一，你得六分；第二名得四分。我觉得排第一应该多给一分。
So if you're top of any of these lists you get six points, second place you get four, I think you deserve an extra point for being top.
所以，如果你跟得上这个逻辑的话，第一名得六分，第二名得四分，第三名得三分，第四名得两分，第五名得一分。
So six points for coming top if you're following this, second place you get four points, third place you get three, fourth place you get two, fifth place you get one point.
好，所以一共有九个榜单。
Okay, so there's nine lists.
好，希望我说清楚了。
Okay, I hope this is clear.
那我先念其中一个榜单吧。
Well, I'll read one of the lists.
好，那么2020年代所有赛事中胜场最多的排名。
Okay, so most matches won in the 2020s counting all tournaments.
好，这个榜单第五名积一分，阿里·卡特，他赢了257场比赛。
Okay, so in fifth place in this list with one point, Ali Carter, he's won 257 matches.
第四名，约翰·希金斯赢了318场比赛。
Fourth place, John Higgins has won 318 matches.
这还是在深圳公开赛之前的数据。
This is ahead of the Shenzhen Open.
第三名，马克·塞尔比在2020年代赢了338场比赛。
Third place, Mark Selby has won 338 matches in the twenty twenties.
第二名，凯伦·威尔逊赢了375场比赛，所以他得四分。
Second place, Kyren Wilson has won 375 matches, so he gets four points.
榜首积六分的是贾德·特鲁姆普，425场。
At top of the list with six points, it's Judd Trump 425.
这感觉已经像欧洲歌唱大赛了。
Already this feels like Eurovision.
我觉得我们应该去，你懂的，冰岛评审团或者雷克雅未克那边什么的。
I feel like we should go to the, you know, the Icelandic jury or something in Reykjavik.
但不管怎样，特鲁姆普，事实是，在这个十年里，他赢的比赛比榜单上第二名的凯伦·威尔逊多了50场。
But anyway, judge Trump, the fact is, in this decade, has won 50 more matches than the next player on the list, Kyle Wilson.
然后我想，好吧。
Then I thought, okay.
但这包括了，你知道的，冠军联赛和很多实际上某些选手不能参加的比赛。
But that includes, you know, Champions League and a lot of tournaments actually that, you know, certain players can't play in.
我们只看排名赛吧。
Let's have a look at ranking events only.
只算排名赛，也就是这段时间内对所有人都开放的比赛，那前五名是谁呢？
Ranking events only the events open to everybody in this period, what is the top five there?
所以20年代排名赛的第五名是约翰·希金斯，他得一分。
So fifth place in ranking events in the 2020s is John Higgins, he gets a point.
第四名是肖恩·墨菲，抱歉，是211，约翰的1分，约翰·希金斯。
Fourth place Sean Murphy, I'm sorry two eleven, John's one, John Higgins.
第四名是肖恩·墨菲，赢了218场比赛。
Fourth place Sean Murphy two eighteen matches won.
第三名是马克·塞尔比，赢了240场。
Third place Mark Selby two forty.
第二名还是凯伦·威尔逊，赢了245场，所以他得4分。
Second place Kyren Wilson again two forty five so he gets four points.
第一名是贾德·特鲁姆普，赢了326场，他得6分。
Top of the shop Judd Trump three twenty six he gets the six points.
所以特鲁姆普比榜单上第二名的选手多赢了大约81场比赛。
So Trump winning about 81 matches more there than the next player on the list.
但同样，你可以深入分析说，不是每个人都参加了所有比赛。
But again, you can delve into that and say, well not everyone's played in everything.
那排名赛中胜率怎么样？
What about percentage of matches won in ranking events?
也就是说，选手们在排名赛中赢的比赛占他们参加的比赛的比例是多少？
So what percentage of the matches that players have played in ranking events have they won?
这里我得过滤掉一些人，因为显然有些人只打过一两站比赛，他们的数据会高得离谱。
Now I've had to filter a few out here because obviously there's some people who've only played in they may have played in one tournament or two tournaments and you know they would have ridiculously high stats.
这些都是巡回赛球员，名单上有些人，我得感谢Q Tracker提供的详尽统计资料，帮了大忙。
It's players on tour, there's some players who were on the list and I should credit obviously Q Tracker here for their extensive statistical archive for a lot of help with this.
但按排名赛胜率来算，可能还有人听这个播客。
But percentage wise ranking of it matches one and people may still be listening to this podcast.
我感觉再过五分钟，我什么都能说。
I get the feeling in about five minutes I could say anything.
我什么都能说，因为我觉得听众可能都走了，但我们会继续，也许还有人感兴趣。
I could say anything because I suspect I'm losing the audience, but we'll continue, some people might be interested.
好，按排名赛胜率来算，二十年代的前五名是谁？
Okay, so by percentage of matches won in ranking events, what is the top five for the twenty twenties?
答案来了。
Here's the answer.
第五名，我们这些排名都是从五到一倒着数的。
Number five, so we're counting down from five to one in all these.
第五名，约翰·希金斯，在这十年里，他赢下了所有排名赛比赛的69.6%。
Number five, John Higgins, 69.6% of all ranking of it matches played, John Higgins has won in this decade.
第四名，马克·塞尔比，71%。
Fourth place, Mark Selby, 71%.
第三名，尼尔·罗伯逊，71.5%。
Third place, Neil Robertson, 71.5%.
第二名，罗尼·奥沙利文，72.5%。
Second place, Ronnie O'Sullivan, 72.5%.
榜单第一名。
Top of the list.
2020年代排名赛胜率，贾德·特鲁姆普，8%。
Percentages of ranking event matches won in the 2020s, Judd Trump, 8%.
对吧？
Okay?
所以到目前为止，已经有三项统计了，特鲁姆普在每一项中都拿满了六分。
So so far, there are three categories and Trump has taken maximum six points from all of them.
但体育的真正意义是什么呢？
But what is sport really about?
我觉得是奖杯，是赢得比赛。
I suppose trophies, It's about winning tournaments.
那么，在2020年代的所有比赛中，按夺冠次数排名，前五名是谁？
So all tournaments played in the 2020s, what is the top five in terms of titles won?
这里我要说明一下，有些并列的情况，比如这次第四名有并列，那么并列的选手各得两分。
Now that I should say there are some ties and where there are ties, so say you're tied as in this case for fourth place, you will take two points each.
明白吗？
Okay?
所以分数就是这样分配的。
So that is how it's shared around.
其实我搞得好像这是个长期存在的体系，但实际上这是我大约十分钟前才发明的。
Well, I'm sort of acting as if this is a long standing, you know, system where really I invented it about ten minutes ago.
不过不管怎样，我们来看看2020年代的冠军数。
But anyway, titles won in the 2020s.
明白吗？
Okay?
所以这里是并列第四名。
So we've got joint fourth place here.
10个冠军，罗尼·奥沙利文、凯伦·威尔逊和马克·艾伦。
10 titles, Ronny O'Sullivan, Karen Wilson, and Mark Allen.
第三名，11个冠军，尼尔·罗伯逊。
In third place, 11 titles, Neil Robertson.
第二名，13个冠军，马克·塞尔比。
Second place, 13 titles Mark Selby.
第一名，21个冠军，贾德·特鲁姆普。
First place, 21 titles, Judd Trump.
但话说回来，我想，好吧，我们把它缩小到排名赛，因为那是每个人都能参加的。
But again, I thought, okay, we'll boil it down to ranking events because that's what everyone can play in.
之前有些比赛其他选手没法参加。
There were some tournaments there other players couldn't play in.
那么，2020年代赢得排名赛冠军最多的前五名是谁呢？
So what's the top five ranking titles won in the 2020s?
在所有类别中，这个可能实际上是最有意义的。
This might of all the categories be actually the most significant.
这就是前五名。
And here is the top five.
好的。
Okay.
并列第四，凯伦·威尔逊和马克·艾伦，各七个冠军。
Joint fourth, Karen Wilson and Mark Allen, seven titles.
第三名，在二十年代赢得九个排名赛冠军，马克·塞尔比。
Third place, nine ranking titles in the in the twenty twenties, Mark Selby.
第二名，在这个十年里赢得10个排名赛冠军，尼尔·罗伯逊。
Second place, 10 ranking titles in this decade, Neil Robertson.
又是第一，在二十年代、这个十年里赢得排名赛冠军最多的是贾德·特鲁姆普，17个，比尼尔·罗伯逊多七个。
And top again, ranking events won in the twenty twenties, in this decade, 17 judge Trump, so seven more than Neil Robertson.
单杆破百。
Centuries.
对吧？
Okay?
我们来看看单杆破百。
Let's look at centuries.
同样，我这里有两个类别。
And again, I've got two categories here.
第一个是这十年里总共打出的单杆破百次数。
So the first one is total centuries made in the decade.
第五名，罗尼·奥沙利文，302次。
Number five, Ronnie O'Sullivan, 302.
第四名，马克·塞尔比，365次。
Number four, Mark Selby, 365.
第三名，尼尔·罗伯逊，381次。
Number three, Neil Robertson, 381.
第二名，凯伦·威尔逊，393杆。
Number two, Karen Wilson, 393.
而榜首，还是贾德·特鲁姆普，499杆。
And top of the shop, once again, is Judd Trump, 499.
你不需要是数学天才也知道，这意味着他在深圳打出的第一杆，如果他能打出来的话，就是他这十年的第五百杆。
And you don't need to be a maths genius to know that that means the first one he makes in Shenzhen, presuming he makes one, will be his five hundredth of the decade.
他领先第二名的凯尔·威尔逊103杆。
He is a 103 centuries ahead of Kyle Wilson in second place.
贾德·特鲁姆普，又一次，他在每个榜单上都排第一。
Judd Trump, again, he's come top so far in every list.
不过，我们还是聚焦到排名赛上吧，因为你知道，这些是每个人都能参加的比赛，而其他一些比赛有些人参加，有些人不参加。
Again though, let's boil it down to ranking events because, you know, again, that they're the torments everyone can play and there are other torments some people are in, some aren't.
所以排名赛上这十年单杆破百次数前五名，第五名，肖恩·墨菲，256杆。
So the top five century break makers of the decade in ranking events, number five, Sean Murphy, 256.
第四名，马克·塞尔比，260杆。
Number four, Mark Selby, 260.
第三名，凯伦·威尔逊，263杆。
Number three, Karen Wilson, 263.
第二名，尼尔·罗伯逊，294杆。
Number two, Neil Robertson, 294.
第一名，还是贾德·特朗普，377杆。
And number one, once again, is judge Trump, three seventy seven.
就十年间排名赛的单杆破百数来说，他领先第二名的尼尔·罗伯逊83杆。
In terms of centuries from ranking events in the decade, he's 83 ahead of Neil Robertson in second place.
那满分杆呢？
What about maximum breaks?
这同样是衡量斯诺克伟大程度的一个指标。
That's again an indicator of greatness in Snooker.
在这个榜单上，有五位球员打出了四次满分杆，四位球员打出了五次满分杆。同样，打出五次满分杆的球员得六分，打出四次的得四分。
Now in this we've got five players who've made four and four players have made five and again all the players have made five will get six points, all the players have made four will get four points.
在有人来信质疑这个计分系统之前，我先说明，这是我发明的，我负全责。我觉得这只是个娱乐项目，但到底怎么样，还得看观众怎么想。
And before anyone writes in about the system, I invented it, okay, I take full responsibility, I would say it's only a bit of fun, but that's that's for the audience to decide.
不过话说回来，这十年里他打出了107杆破百，所以我觉得他们其实算是并列第五吧，但四杆的有约翰·希金斯、加里·威尔逊、凯伦·威尔逊、马克·艾伦和张国栋。
But anyway, 107 breaks this decade, so it's well, I suppose they're joint fifth really, but with four, John Higgins, Gary Wilson, Karen Wilson, Mark Allen and Zhang Guodong.
五杆的有贾德·特鲁姆普、张安达、塔猜亚·乌诺和肖恩·墨菲。
And with five, Judd Trump, Zhang Amber, Tepp Charanu, and Sean Murphy.
我们还有一个类别，如果你还听得下去的话，那就是三大赛，你知道的，我是它的超级粉丝。
We've got one more category if you can bear it, and that is of course the Triple Crown, which as you know I'm a big fan of.
那么这十年里谁赢得的三大赛冠军最多呢？
So who's won the most Triple Crown titles this decade?
有意思的是，或者取决于你怎么看，这是唯一一个贾德·特鲁姆普不是第一的类别。
Now this interestingly or not, depending on your point of view, is the only category where Judd Trump is not top.
对吧？
Okay?
所以有五位球员在2020年代赢得了两个三大赛冠军。
So we've got five players who won two Triple Crown titles in the 2020s.
他们是贾德·特鲁姆普、马克·塞尔比、贾德·特鲁姆普、尼尔·罗伯逊和凯伦·威尔逊。
Judd Trump, Mark Selby, Jazzing Tong, Neil Robertson, and Kara Wilson.
而在这份榜单上排名第一、赢得四次冠军的选手是罗尼·奥沙利文。
And one player who's won four top of this list is Ronnie O'Sullivan.
罗尼·奥沙利文，因为他赢得了两次世锦赛和两次大师赛。
So Ronnie O'Sullivan, because he won two world championships and two masters.
抱歉，他赢的其实不是这样。
Sorry, he's won he hasn't.
他赢得了两次世锦赛、一次英锦赛和一次大师赛，所以他排在榜首。
He's won two world championships, the UK championship and the masters, so he's top of that list.
所以这就是九份不同的榜单。
So that is nine different lists.
好的。
Okay.
所以满分是54分，因为每份榜单的第一名得6分。
So it's a possible score of 54 because it's six points finishing top of each.
我们现在有一个非常明确的前五名，接下来我就来揭晓。
We've got a very definitive top five, which I will now unveil.
按照老规矩，我们从后往前公布。
And in time old fashion we'll do it in reverse order.
这是基于九个类别得出的排名榜单。
This is the ranking list based on all the nine categories.
这是十年间排名前五的选手，按倒序排列，并附上我分配或通过这个排名系统分配到的积分。
These are the top five players of the decade in reverse order with the points that I've allocated them or have been allocated through this ranking system.
好了，马上就好，别担心，我们很快会讲到布莱恩·坎贝尔的邮件什么的，但这就是2020年代所有类别综合排名前五的榜单。
Okay, it'd be over soon, don't worry, we'll be on to you know Brian Campbell's email or whatever in a minute, but the ranking list top five of the 2020s with all these categories is as follows.
第五名，13分，罗尼·奥沙利文。
Number five with 13 points, Romeo Sullivan.
第四名，21分，尼尔·罗伯逊。
Number four with 21 points, Neil Robertson.
第三名，23分，马克·塞尔比。
Number three with 23 points, Mark Selby.
第二名，27分，凯伦·威尔逊。
Number two with 27 points, Karen Wilson.
而榜首是贾德·特鲁姆普，满分54分中拿了52分，领先第二名25分。
And top of the list with 52 points out of a possible 54 is Judd Trump, and that's 25 points ahead of second place.
所以贾德·特鲁姆普毫无疑问是这个十年最杰出的球员。
So Judd Trump is by a long way the player of the decade.
这可能对大家来说不算新闻，如果提前问你觉得谁会排第一，你大概也会说是他。但有趣的是，在几乎每个榜单上，他不仅排第一，而且遥遥领先。
Now that might not be news to anybody, it's probably if I asked you beforehand who do you think will come top, That's who you would have said, but what's interesting is in almost every list, he's not only top, he's a long way top.
你看那些百分杆，这个十年比第二名多了一百多杆；排名赛冠军多了七个，总冠军数多了八个。
I mean, look at the centuries, know, over a 100 more for the decade than the next place, ranking title seven more, total titles eight more.
这个十年他赢了78%的排名赛比赛，总胜场数比任何人都多出50场。
He's won 78% of all ranking event matches this decade and he's won 50 more matches than anyone else overall.
我觉得这相当了不起，而且这应该能平息一些质疑，因为现在还有人说他怎么是世界第一，毕竟他现在不是，但他能长期占据榜首的原因，就藏在这些数字里。
It's pretty impressive I think and I mean it may put to bed because there's still some people who say well how's he world number one because he's not at the minute, but the clue as to why he was there for so long is in these numbers.
数字不会说谎，当然可以从不同角度看，我设计了一套排名系统，但说实话，我觉得这套系统相当扎实。
Numbers don't lie, they can be obviously looked at in different ways and I've come up with a ranking system, but I think it's pretty pretty rock solid, frankly.
《Talking Snooker》上周请了阿里·卡特上节目。
Talking Snooker, they had Ali Carter on this last week.
这件事登上了很多报纸的头条。
It made headlines in lots of newspapers.
我猜这件事不会。
I I suspect this won't.
这个话题比较小众，不过反正我已经做完了，就是用这些数据再排一下，不是全部，就是这十年排名前五的球员。
It's a bit more niche, but anyway, I've done it now, and that is I'll through again the top not the whole thing, the top five players of the decade using all these metrics.
第五名，罗尼·奥沙利文。
Number five, Ronnie O'Sullivan.
第四名，尼尔·罗伯逊。
Number four, Neil Robertson.
第三名，马克·塞尔比。
Number three, Mark Selby.
第二名，凯伦·威尔逊。
Number two, Karen Wilson.
第一名，贾德·特鲁姆普。
And number one, Chuck Trump.
我觉得我们现在得进入比赛环节了，因为大家可能就等着听这个。
I feel we must go to the competition now because we people may be only listening for that.
但我收到了很多，我不是开玩笑。
But I had a lot I'm not kidding.
我收到了很多参赛作品。
I had a lot of entries.
所以感谢每一位参赛的朋友。
So thank you to everyone who entered.
来了很多参赛作品。
A lot of entries came in.
真的，特别多。
I mean, literally a lot.
所以为了选出一个赢家，我真的就是随便往下滑了滑，然后指着屏幕。
And so to pick a winner, I literally have scrolled down sort of at random, okay, and just pointed at the screen.
我就是这样找到赢家的。
And that's what I've done to find the winner.
获胜者是布莱恩·里德尔。
And the winner is Brian Riddell.
有人说，嗯，布莱恩·里德尔。
Some say, well, Brian Riddell.
那是你的名字。
That's your that's your name.
问题是，布莱恩答对了，最后一届世界锦标赛在进入克鲁斯堡之前是在哪里举办的？
And the question was, and Brian answered it correctly, where was the last world championship before it went to the crucible?
决赛是在哪里举行的？
Where was the final held?
关键点在于决赛，而不是世界锦标赛，因为1976年，比赛分散在米德尔斯堡市政厅和曼彻斯特的威森肖论坛举行。
Now the key thing thing there is the final, not the World Championship, because 1976, it was split between Middlesbrough, Town Hall, and Withensham Forum in Manchester.
决赛是在威森肖论坛举行的。
The final was at Withensham Forum.
所以其实挺不错的。
So it was quite good actually.
有些人答错了，这其实挺好的，因为这说明大家都在作弊。
Some people got the answer wrong, which is kind of good because it means, you know, everyone cheated.
顺便说一句，我不是说布莱恩作弊了。
I'm not saying Brian did, by the way.
但在肖论坛，雷·里登击败了亚历克斯·希金斯，然后第二年就搬到了克鲁斯堡。
But within Shaw Forum, Ray Ridden beat Alex Higgins, and then it moved to The Crucible the following year.
所以，谢谢你，布莱恩，感谢你的参与。
So thank you, Brian, for entering.
感谢所有参与的人。
Thank you to everyone entering.
布莱恩，我会给你发消息，安排寄送那本书的副本。
Brian, I will I will message you and arrange to send the copy of the book.
这引起了争议，因为不可避免的是，中国的周说，她答对了，但她说，当然，我很想赢一本签名版，但我参与的主要原因是你在播客里说的一些话。
There's been controversy because inevitably, because Chow in China says well, she got the answer right, but she said, of course, I'd love to win a signed copy, but the main reason I'm entering is something you said on the podcast.
一位幸运的听众可以得到它，其实想想，是在它出版之前。
One lucky listener can get their hands on it, actually thinking about it before before it comes out.
我知道这本书是10月8号出版，但你说那句话的时候，显然没考虑到你在澳大利亚、加拿大，尤其是中国的听众。
I know the book comes out on the October 8, and it seems pretty obvious that when you said that, you weren't thinking about your listeners in Australia, Canada, and especially China.
我对这件事不太高兴，所以我决定参加，就是想给你添点麻烦，提醒你《斯诺克现场播客》的听众遍布全世界。
I'm not very happy about this, so I've decided to enter just to cause you a little trouble and to remind you Snooker Scene Podcast has listeners all over the world.
好了，够了。
Well, enough.
我的意思是，你可能以为写书的人会清楚出版日期什么的，但说实话，我根本没太在意。
I mean, the thing is you might assume that the person who wrote the book would be across release dates and all that, but to be honest, it's kind of passed me by.
我知道书要出了，也希望人们会买，但我知道的就这么多。
I know it's coming out and I hope know, obviously people will buy it, but that's about as far as I know about it.
不过，你说得很有道理，但不管怎样，布莱恩会拿到那本书的。
But anyway, point well made, but anyway Brian will get the copy of it.
邮件部分现在要开始了，虽然开头有点乱，我们收到了去过英格兰公开赛的人的反馈，门票什么的有点问题，但史蒂夫·默瑟去了，他是这么说的：希望你一切安好。
We're gonna go after a bit of a ragged start to the emails now, and well, we had some feedback about the English Open from people who've been there, and there was a sort of issue with tickets and all the rest of it, but Steve Mercer went and this is what he said, he said, hope you're keeping well.
我恐怕有点迟了，但我想分享一下我几周前去英格兰公开赛的经历。
I'm slightly tardy I'm afraid, but I thought I would share my experience of attending the English Open a couple of weeks ago.
四月份在EIS失望之后，我满怀期待地去了布伦特伍德中心，手里拿着《一罐金子》，希望能终于拿到签名，但可惜这次我们没碰上。
After my disappointment at EIS in April, I went along to the Brentwood Centre expectantly clutching my copy of Pots of Gold in hope of at last getting it autographed, but alas our paths didn't cross on this occasion.
没关系，我买了十一月份冠军锦标赛的门票，也许到时候运气会好一些。
Never mind, I have tickets to the Champion of Champions in November, so perhaps I'll have more luck then.
嗯，希望我能去冠军锦标赛，史蒂夫，所以如果你在那里见到我，请一定把书递给我，我一定会签名的。
Well, hopefully, I will be at the Champion of Champions, Steve, so I, you know, if I see you there, please do please do proffer it and I'll sign it by all means.
回到英格兰公开赛的话题，在你最近的播客里，记者利兹·布莱克本提到她觉得WST在布伦特伍德中心的工作人员非常帮忙，我也想表达同样的感受。
Anyway, back to the English Open, in your latest podcast, correspondent Liz Blackburn mentioned how helpful she had found the WST staff at the Brentwood Centre, and I would like to echo her sentiments.
因为我是去年买的票，那时候WST还没换票务代理，所以我在赛前拿到票时遇到了很大的麻烦。
As I had purchased my tickets last year before WST changed their booking agent, I had huge problems actually obtaining my tickets before the event.
尽管给Ticketmaster和WST发了很多邮件，但两家公司都没有提供客服电话，这真的不可原谅。
Despite numerous emails to both Ticketmaster and WST, it's unforgivable that neither company provides a customer service phone number.
赛前我还是没收到票，但一到场馆，一位WST的年轻女士非常热心地帮我解决了所有问题，帮我找到了我的票。
I'd still not receive my tickets before the event, however once I got to the venue a very helpful young lady from WST clarified everything and helped me to locate my tickets.
显然没人告诉我，和往年不同，我需要下载一个应用才能拿到票，她非常耐心地教我在手机上怎么操作，一次都没有翻白眼或叹气，这和我之前提到的某些人可能不太一样。
Apparently what nobody had told me was that unlike in previous years I need to download an app to get my tickets, and she very patiently showed me what to do on my phone without once rolling their eyes or sighing audibly, which is different maybe to people I'm adding this in different maybe to people listening out our earlier to our earlier feature.
我记得她好像叫乔西还是乔迪，她帮我解决了大问题，我真的很感激。
I think her name was Josie or Jodie and she saved the day for me, so I'm deeply grateful.
对，乔迪是赛事经理之一，我记得上周可能提到过帕特·威尔斯，但他们所有人都干得很出色，非常乐于助人。乔迪听起来确实帮了大忙，这真是太好了。
Well yeah, Jodie is one of the event managers and I think I said it could have been Pat Wells last week, but they all do a really good job and are very helpful and Jodi sounds like she has played a blinder there, so that's good to hear.
史蒂夫说我还得特别感谢WST的工作人员格伦，他在活动上帮了我大忙，简直是个传奇人物。
Steve says I must also say a huge thanks to WST staff member Glenn who was an absolute legend in helping me out at the event.
不过，这次经历确实让我想到了一些事情。
This experience did get me thinking though.
我在想，你会不会考虑邀请WST的工作人员来你的播客聊聊，这样我们就能多了解一些那些穿红马甲的小伙子们。
I wonder whether you would consider inviting members of the WSD staff for a chat on your podcast so that we could find out a little bit more about the guys in red fleeces.
他们中的很多人对斯诺克球迷来说都是熟悉的面孔，我相信他们一定有很多关于多年工作经历的趣事可以分享。
Many of them will be familiar faces to snooker fans, and I'm sure they must have a wealth of entertaining tales to tell about their experience at over the years.
对，那些安保人员确实很棒，你知道，马克·威廉姆斯之前也提到过，还有马丁，还有一些在那里工作很久的人，他们都很友好。他们的工作就是照顾球迷，确保他们行为得体，同时也知道他们要去哪里，需要什么。
Well, yes, I mean, the security guys, they are great and, know, Mark Williams ahead of it all and Martin and and, you know, some of the guys there that have there a long time and very friendly, and and their job is to look after the fans, make sure that they behave properly, but also know where they're going and have what they need.
马什他们那些人干得很不错，所以也许我们会考虑邀请他们。
Marshy and those guys, they do a good job, so maybe we will.
至于赛事本身，那真是太棒了。
As to the event itself, it was fantastic.
我有幸亲眼目睹了肖恩·墨菲在十红球比赛中冲击147分的尝试，还有她精彩的解说，以及许多其他有趣的比赛。
I was fortunate enough to witness Sean Murphy's 10 red one four seven attempt accompanied by her excellent commentary along with numerous other entertaining matches.
我还很高兴听到布伦特伍德中心将进行2500万英镑的翻新。
I was also encouraged to hear about the £25,000,000 Brentwood Centre refurbishment.
我相信球员和球迷都会喜欢新的独立赛事入口和升级后的餐饮设施。
I'm sure both players and fans alike will appreciate the new separate events entrance and upgraded catering facilities.
另外，换个话题，我最近在新闻里听说LIV高尔夫申请破产了。
On a separate note, I'm sorry, separate topic, I heard in the news recently that Live Golf have filed for bankruptcy.
我想知道，你觉得这个命运多舛的LIV高尔夫巡回赛的垮台，是不是让我们更不可能看到斯诺克独立巡回赛的成立了？
I wondered whether you think that the collapse of this ill fated Arrival Golf Tour now makes it less likely we may ever see the formation of a breakaway snooker tour.
最近确实几乎听不到这种说法了。
It does seem like talk of this happening has all but disappeared recently.
感谢你一直坚持制作这么精彩的播客。
Thanks for keeping up the brilliant podcast.
嗯，你说，史蒂夫。
Well, you, Steve.
LIV高尔夫联赛，它已经没了，因为沙特那边撤资了，对吧？
The Live Golf, it has gone that is because the sound is have divested their in sport, haven't they?
你知道，我的意思是，这就是为什么斯诺克排名赛没了。
You know, I mean, that's why the Snooker ranking event went.
他们往不同运动投了很多钱，现在又撤回去了。
They put a lot of money to different sports and now we're withdrawing it again.
关于对抗性巡回赛，我有点发言权，因为大约25年前，也就是2001年，他们宣布要搞一个分裂出去的巡回赛，我当时算是边缘人物，参与了TSN那个提议。
Here's the thing about rival tours and I can speak with a little bit of authority on this because I was sort of in the periphery of the TSN proposed breakaway tour back twenty five years ago now, 2001, they announced a breakaway tour.
人们常犯的错误是，他们觉得只要签下球员，事情就好办了。
The mistake people make is they think, we'll just sign up the players and then that will make it easy.
其实那反而是最容易的部分。
That actually is the easy part.
难的是你需要的整个基础设施。
The hard part is the infrastructure that you need.
如果要办一个巡回赛，你需要很多员工，还需要持续的收入来源。大家总是谈初期投资，但那笔钱很快就会花完，因为你要预订场地，要支付所有费用，要付所有人的工资，这里面成本很高。
If you're going to run a tour, you need loads of staff, you need a constant revenue stream that people always talk about the initial money investment, but that will go very soon because you've got to book venues, you've got to pay for everything, pay for everybody, there's a lot of costs involved in it.
而且几年前我们也遇到过这个问题，当时有人提议搞一个独立的巡回赛，据说一些球员签了保密协议，而且对前景非常乐观。
And also the problem that we had a couple of years ago, it was suggested that, you know, there was gonna be a breakaway and various players apparently signed NDAs and were pretty bullish about what's gonna happen.
但最后没成。
It didn't happen.
其中一个原因是转播商对威尔·斯诺克场景非常忠诚，尤其是BBC。
And one of the reasons is the broadcasters are very loyal to Will Snooker Scene the BBC in particular.
他们又锁定了六年合同，TNT、HBO、欧洲体育也锁定了五年，还有中国那边，关系也处得很好。
They're locked in for another six years, you know, TNT, HBO, Eurosport are locked in for another five, you've got the Chinese as well, they've got a very good relationship with.
所以要想打破这种格局，你需要的不仅仅是球员，还需要庞大的基础设施，这真的非常非常难，而且钱会烧得特别快。
So sort of breaking all that down, you need more than just players, you need a massive infrastructure and it's just really, really difficult and you will burn through money very, very quickly.
所以我觉得出现一个对立的巡回赛不太可能，但我觉得可能会有更多独立赛事出现，有推广方来尝试办赛。
So I think arrival tour is unlikely, but what I think could happen is maybe more independent events coming along, promoters coming along, trying to put events on.
他们和世界斯诺克合作的程度，或者世界斯诺克愿意和他们合作的程度，我觉得会决定这些赛事的成败。
The extent to which they'll work with World Snooker or World Snooker will work with them will I think decide the success or otherwise of these events.
但比如说，我觉得大多数人，嗯，我不能代表大多数人，但很多人都觉得奇怪，既然欧洲对斯诺克这么感兴趣，职业巡回赛里除了德国大师赛，欧洲大陆居然没有其他比赛。
But for example, I mean I think most people, well I can't speak for most people, but a lot of people agree that it seems odd that given the interest in snooker in Europe, there aren't any tournaments in Europe, Continental Europe that is, other than the German masters on the Pro Tour.
所以可能会有个推广人过来说，我要在欧洲办六场比赛，你能跟我合作吗？
So it could be that a promoter comes along and says, I'm gonna run six events in Europe, Can you work with me?
你能给个时间吗？
Can you give the dates?
或者我能不能直接说服球员来参加？
Or can I just actually persuade players to play in them?
就在上周，WPBSA主席杰森·弗格森接受了菲尔·黑格在《地铁报》的采访，他说他认为在不久的将来，会有比赛同时进行，不止一场比赛同时进行。
Jason Ferguson, WPPC chairman just last week was interviewed by Phil Hague in the Metro and he said he thinks in the near future there'll be tournaments on at the same time, more than one tournament on at the same time.
你在网球、高尔夫、板球里都能看到这种情况，其实很多运动都能承受这种安排。
You see that in tennis, see it in golf, you see it in cricket, lots of sports actually can survive that.
所以我觉得这比另起炉灶更有可能，你可能会看到独立推广人有更多机会。
So I think that's more likely than a different tour, you might get more opportunities for independent promoters.
这都归结于供需关系，如果公众有足够的兴趣，那么就会有更多的比赛。
It all comes down to supply and demand, if there's interest enough from the public, then you know, there'll be more events.
不过总之，希望这能回答你的问题。
But anyway, hopefully answers that.
现在我们亲爱的朋友，来自荷兰的Jorit说，希望你一切都好。
Now our dear friend Jorit from The Netherlands says, hope you're well.
我有一个重要的问题。
I have an important question.
除了那些关于管理不善、排名系统、我们心爱的运动的未来等等重要事项之外，大突破什么时候会出现在我们的屏幕上，还是已经被取消了？
Besides the important matters about the misrule, the ranking system, the future of our beloved sport, etcetera, etcetera, when or when is big break coming to our screens, or has it been canceled?
我希望你能给出答案，这样我就不用再失眠了。
I hope you have the answer so I don't lose any more sleep.
谢谢，继续加油。
Thanks and keep up the good work.
嗯，我知道这个问题的答案，Joris，而且这是播客独家消息。
Well, know the answer to this, Joris, and this this is a podcast exclusive.
我可以确切告诉你它什么时候播出。
I can tell you exactly when it's gonna be on.
它会在1月份大师赛之后在BBC二台播出。
It's gonna be on BBC two in January after the masters.
那就是《大突破》播出的时间。
That's when big break is gonna be transmitted.
BBC二台，1月份，大师赛之后。
BBC two in January after the masters.
所以这就是对你问题的直接回答。
So that that is just a direct answer to your question.
我们还有谁呢？
Who else have we got here?
莉兹·汉弗莱斯。
Liz Humphries.
莉兹说，希望你一切都好。
Liz says, I hope this finds you well.
距离我们上次邮件已经有一段时间了，但我想联系你，对你和你的评论员同事们表示巨大的感谢，感谢你们在莱斯特这几周对资格赛第一桌的精彩报道。
It's a while since our last email, but I want you to get in touch to say a huge thank you to you and your commentator colleagues for a magnificent job covering table one of the qualifying matches in Leicester these last couple of weeks.
我一直在看，不好意思。
I've been able to watch excuse me.
我看了不少转播，能看到各种水平的球员和不同的经验层次，感觉特别好。
I've been able to watch a fair bit of the coverage, which has been great for seeing a wide range of players and different levels of quality and experience.
我对你们的工作非常钦佩，包括迈克尔·戴、迈克尔·麦克马伦以及其他同事，都做得非常出色。
I've been full of admiration for the excellent work by you, Michael Day, Michael McMullen and affiliates.
你们一直单枪匹马地解说这么多场比赛，肯定不容易，尤其是比赛时间长、质量又不高的时候。
It cannot been easy for you all to keep going as single commentators across so many sessions, especially when matches have been long and at times low quality.
整个过程都非常精彩，再次感谢你们。如果可以的话，也请帮我向你的同事们转达谢意，我不知道怎么联系他们。
It's all been thoroughly entertaining, so thank you again, and if possible please also pass on my thanks to your colleagues, I don't know how to contact them.
哎呀，丽兹，你太客气了。
Well, you Liz.
我已经帮你转达了，丽兹，大家都很感激。
I have done that Liz and it was much appreciated.
迈克尔·戴当然是这次解说首秀，他做得非常好。我觉得很有意思，比赛质量确实参差不齐。
Michael Day of course, know, making his commentary debut through this and he's done a fine job and it's been interesting I think, quality has varied wildly.
我想在任何比赛或锦标赛环境中，你都会预料到这种情况，但有些比赛你会看着某些选手，心想他们在干什么？
Now I suppose you expect that anyway in any match environment, any tournament environment, but there's been some matches that have been you do look at some of the players and think what are you doing?
但有时候，看着他们又会觉得，嗯，你是个顶级选手。
But other times, look at them and think, well, you you're a top player.
我对利亚姆·戴维斯印象非常深刻。
I've been very impressed with Liam Davis.
你知道，他确实进步了，看起来状态很好。
You know, he's really stepped up and he's looking good.
他在所有赛事中都顺利晋级。
He's getting through in all the events.
我评论过亚伦·希尔。
Aaron Hill, I commented on.
我的意思是，他在七局四胜的比赛中打出了三个百分杆，这本身就说明了一切，但我觉得他会朝着正确的方向前进。
I mean, made three centuries in a best of seven, so that speaks for itself, but I think he's gonna be, you know, heading heading in the right direction.
所以这很有趣，但谢谢你。
So it's been interesting, but thank you.
这显然是WST球员做的一件新事，在一号桌的资格赛上加上解说，而且反响不错，这很好，我们也应该感谢那边的团队，世界斯诺克的一个小团队，算是幕后团队吧，我也不确定这么说对不对。
It's it's obviously a new thing WST player doing, putting commentary on qualifying on table one and there has been a good reaction to it which is good and we should thank the team there as well, it's a small team at World Snooker who sort of is husband is the right term, I don't know.
他们基本上就是搭建了解说平台，确保一切正常运行，如果有什么问题也会处理，诸如此类。
They basically set up the commentary portal, if you like, and make sure it's all running properly there if there's any problems and all the rest of it.
所以他们算是默默在背后支持我们。
So they sort of they're there in the background holding us up as it were.
总之，谢谢你们。
But anyway, thank you.
很高兴你们喜欢。
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
接下来轮到安德鲁·乔布。
Go next to Andrew Job.
好吗？
Okay?
安德鲁说，他还配了一张图，虽然大家都看不到，但总之，希望你一切顺利，享受这个赛季。
Andrew says and Andrew's included a graphic, which no obviously, no one can see, but anyway, hope you're doing well enjoying the season so far.
谢谢你，安德鲁。
Thank you, Andrew.
你在本周节目中提到的，克鲁斯堡翻修期间临时搬迁的事情，让我想起了一个我今年夏天就想提的观点，但一直忘了发给你。
Your mention in this week's episode of the temporary crexit while the crucible is being renovated reminded me of a point I meant to raise this summer, but kept forgetting to send you.
你在讨论世锦赛可能的临时举办地时提到，重要的是无论选哪个场馆，都不能让它盖过克鲁斯堡，甚至到人们可能会说‘干脆别留在这儿了’的程度，对吧？
You mentioned when discussing potential temporary homes for the world championship that it would be important that whichever venue is chosen should not overshadow and surpass the crucible to a point where people might just say, not keep it here?
据我了解，目前官方的计划是，克鲁斯堡只会临时搬迁，嗯，安德鲁，你说的是2028年。
My understanding is that the current official plan is for the Taunt to only be displaced for well, Andrew, you say 2028.
实际上是2029年。
It's actually 2029.
对吧？
Okay?
而且可能还需要为2030年找一个场馆。
With the possible necessity of finding a venue for it's 2030.
在我看来，要避免临时场馆变成永久场馆，一个简单的办法就是，如果克鲁斯堡在2030年还是无法使用，那就选一个不同于2029年的场馆来举办那一年的比赛。
It seems to me an easy way to avoid calls for a temporary venue to become permanent would be if The Crucible is still unavailable to hold the two thousand thirty tournament at a different venue than that chosen for 2029.
我可以想象这样一个世界：如果29年和30年的世锦赛都成功在比如亚历山德拉宫举办，斯诺克圈子里有些人可能会开始嚷嚷着干脆就留在那里，因为已经连续两年了；但如果29年在亚历山德拉宫，30年在马蒂奥利、莱斯特的莱恩（随便再提一个传闻中的场地），那就不太容易指出连续两年的成功。
I can imagine a world where if '29 and 30 worlds are both successfully held out, for example, for instance, Ali Pally, some people within the snooker community would make noises about just keeping there after two years, whereas if '29 was at Ali Pally and 30 was at Mattioli, Rinne and Leicester to pick another mooted venue at random, it would be harder to point to consecutive years of success.
是的，好吧，我们走着瞧。
Yeah, well, we'll see.
我的意思是，你知道，说实话，如果你住在英国，你会知道那种建筑项目和施工项目并不总是按计划进行，而且你知道，我觉得如果认为我们只会错过一年，那真是太乐观了，可能是两年，可能更多，我们不知道。
I mean, you know, let's be honest, if you live in The UK, you'll be aware that sort of building projects and construction projects don't always run to plan and you know, I think it would be really optimistic to think we're only gonna miss one year, it may be two, it may be more, we don't know.
但你说得有道理。
But what you say makes sense.
唯一的问题是找场地很难。
The only problem is getting venues is difficult.
找一个场地，你需要克鲁斯堡三周时间，你知道，搭建和比赛本身。
Getting a venue, you need the crucible for three weeks, you know, the setup and then the tournament itself.
其中一个问题是，当然，谢菲尔德市议会目前免费提供克鲁斯堡。
And one of the issues is, of course, Sheffield City Council provide the crucible for free at the moment.
威尔·斯诺克场景能否与某个场地、某个市议会达成协议，再次获得免费使用，同时他们能否找到一个已经可用的地方？
Can Will Snooker Scene do a deal with a venue, with a council where they get that again, but also can they find somewhere that's already available?
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这会很有意思。
It's gonna be interesting.
我们到时候就知道了。
We'll find that in due course.
安德鲁接着说，还有今年夏天，你提到你会联系一位裁判，来回答听众可能有的任何规则问题。
Andrew continues, also this summer, you mentioned you'll be in touch with a referee to answer any any rules queries that listeners may have.
我有两个希望比较简单的问题，希望那位裁判能回答。
I have two hopefully straightforward questions which that referee can hopefully answer.
第一个问题，我知道开球时谁先击球，以及黑球重摆时谁先击球，是通过抛硬币决定的。
First question, I know that the choice of which player makes the initial break off shot and which player shoots first on a respotted black is decided via a tonicos.
我不知道的是，裁判怎么决定谁先叫硬币？
What I don't know is, how does the referee decide which player gets to call the toss?
好的。
Okay.
嗯，我其实还没把这个问题发给那位裁判，但我自己来回答吧。
Well, I haven't actually sent this to the referee in question, but I'll answer it myself.
我觉得那纯粹是随机的。
I mean, I'm pretty sure that is just random.
他们就是随便指一个球员。
They just literally will just turn to a player.
我觉得没有什么固定的规则。
I don't think there's any sort of set protocol.
也许是最排名最高的球员，但我不确定，我觉得就是随机的，他们就是随便跟谁说，你来猜吧，因为谁在乎呢。
Maybe it's the highest ranked player, I'm not sure, but I think it's just random, they'll just sort of say to whoever, you know, you call because who cares really.
第二个问题，我不太清楚的是，在自由球的情况下，用指定的自由球去撞击目标球，这合法吗？
Secondly, what I don't know is how My second question, in a free ball situation, is it legal to use the declared free ball to plant an object ball?
告诉比尔，我具体想问什么。
Tell Bill the straight what exactly I'm asking.
我附了一张用微软画图画的图，希望能解释清楚。
I'm attaching a make Microsoft Paint drawing to hopefully clarify.
为了让听众明白，我画了一个场景：桌上还剩一颗红球，挂在角袋口，但被蓝球挡住了，所有彩球都在自己的点位，母球在开球区。
For the benefit of the listeners, I've depicted a situation with one red ball remaining on the table and hanging over a corner pocket, but covered by the blue ball with all of the colors on their spots and the cue ball in bulk.
这算不算自由球的情况？
Were this a free ball situation?
指定蓝球为自由球，然后把红球打进袋，这样合法吗？
Would it be legal to nominate the blue as the free ball and have implant the red into the pocket?
希望这个问题听起来合理。
Hopefully, this question makes sense.
嗯，是的，我是说，这项运动的规则，我可以回答这个，规则规定你可以这样做，是的，而且如果你把红球从蓝球上打进去，蓝球是自由球，你打进红球，那算一分。
Well, yeah, I mean, the rules of the the rules of the sport, I can answer this, the rules of the sport state you can do that, yes, and if you pot well, if you pot the red off the blue, so the blue is the free ball, you pop the red, that's one point.
如果两个球都进袋，那就是两分。
If both balls go in, it's two points.
显然，蓝球然后回到它的置球点，红球留在袋里。
And obviously, the blue then comes back on its spot, the red stays down.
我觉得这肯定是对的，一定是这样。
I mean, I'm sure that's right, that must be.
不过总之，我，是的。
But anyway, I I yes.
抱歉。
Apologies.
我本来想把那条消息发给我们的神秘裁判的，结果忘了。不过我相信如果他正在听的话，能告诉我我说得对不对。
I meant to send send that to our mystery referee and I forgot, but I'm sure if he's listening, can tell me if I've it right or not.
谢谢你的回答。
Thank you for that.
好了，我们这里还有什么呢？
Now then, what else have we got here?
因为我刚才翻了一下，哦，对了。
Because I've gone through oh, yes.
我看了“金罐”的投稿，谢谢大家。
I've gone through the the Pots of Gold entries, and thank you.
关于《金罐》这本书，是我写的，很快就要在英国出平装版了。
But on Pots of Gold, this is a book I wrote, and it's out in paperback in The UK very soon.
不过乔·墨菲说，我很喜欢你上一期的斯诺克现场播客。
But Joe Murphy says, I loved your last episode on Snooker Scene Podcast.
我很高兴杰克·琼斯在英国公开赛上夺冠。
I'm delighted for Jack Jones winning at the British Open.
我喜欢看到新的冠军出现。
I'd to see new winners.
祝贺《一桶金》出版一周年。
Congratulations on the first anniversary of the publication of Pots of Gold.
这是一个了不起的成就，一年过去了，这本书仍然让我读起来非常愉快。
It's a remarkable achievement, and one year on it remains a book I returned to with real pleasure.
作为爱尔兰读者，我特别感激能了解到像乔·布雷迪和杰基·雷这样的早期爱尔兰球员的故事。
As an Irish reader, I was particularly grateful to discover the stories of early Irish players such as Joe Brady and Jackie Ray.
看到他们在这项运动形成时期的位置被恰当地记录和颂扬，真是由衷的喜悦。
It was a genuine delight to see their place in the formative years of the game properly recorded and celebrated.
我还觉得哈里·杰克逊偷窃台球的故事非常吸引人，这件事导致了英国首次基于新指纹证据的定罪，这真是一段精彩的体育和社会历史。
I also found the account of Harry Jackson's burglary of a set of billiard balls fascinating, the fact it led to the first conviction in Britain based on the new fingerprint evidence is a wonderful piece of sporting and social history.
确实如此。
That's true.
是的。
Yes.
哈里·杰克逊，他是个，怎么说呢，别拐弯抹角了，就是个贼。他闯进一处房产，徒手偷走了一副台球。但当时刚引入指纹识别技术，他就是这么被抓住的。
Harry Jackson, he was a well, let's not be coy, a thief, and he broke into some property and stole a set of billiard balls with his bare hands, but they just introduced fingerprinting technology and that's how he was caught.
他是第一个根据那项法律被定罪的人。
He was the first person convicted under that under that legislation.
现在我们继续。我清楚地记得，2025年9月24日，在切尔滕纳姆的英国橡树赛上，我是第一个买到这本书的人，而且当场就让你签了名，那对我来说是一段特别的回忆。
Now we continue, I remember fondly being the very first person to buy a copy at the British Oaks in in Chelten on the 09/24/2025, and and of having it signed by you there and then, that remains a special memory.
我也记得那件事。
So I remember that as well.
你，我觉得是你说服了当地的书店让你进去拿了一本，干得漂亮。
You you I think you persuaded the local bookshop to let you in and get a copy, which fair play to you.
感谢你为这本书付出的心血、研究和讲述故事的努力。
Thank you for the care, research, and storytelling you brought to the book.
《一桶金》对任何热爱这项运动的人来说都是一份真正的礼物。
Pots of Gold is a real gift to anyone who loves the game.
这是历史。
It's history.
希望这本书还能被阅读和喜爱很多年。
Here's to many more years of it being read and enjoyed.
致以最热烈的祝贺和感谢。
With warmest congratulations and thanks.
哇，这封邮件写得真好，非常感谢。
Well, a lovely email, thank you very much.
是的，你知道，这算是出于热爱吧，但副标题特意写的是‘斯诺克的历史’，我并不是说这是最权威的历史，也有其他人写过，但这本书很大程度上基于两件事：一是参与者的回忆，二是社会历史的元素，展示了英国在那段时间的变化，因为这项运动主要在英国发展，当它成为文化的一部分时，我觉得探讨当时相关的文化元素很有意思。
Yes, I mean, you know, it was a labor of love I suppose, but you know, is very deliberately the subheading is a history of snooker, I'm not saying it's the definitive history, are others, but it's very much a history based on two things really, one is the recollections of people who actually took part and secondly, there is a social history element to it showing how in particular Britain changed over that time because obviously the sport has been based here so much and when it became part of the culture, I thought it was interesting to look at the cultural elements that were sort of relevant at the time.
不过，正如我所说，这本书即将推出平装版。
But anyway, the book as I say, it's coming out in paperback.
布莱恩·里德尔不用买，因为会邮寄给他。
Brian Riddle doesn't have to buy it because it's coming to him via post.
顺便说一下，布莱恩，我是在跟你说。
By the way, Brian, I say that.
我接下来要去参加深圳公开赛，所以下周可能寄不到，得等那之后，但你肯定会收到的，我保证。
I'm gonna be away doing the Shenzhen Open, so it won't be in the next week, it'll be after that, but you will get it, I assure you.
现在马蒂亚斯也参加了比赛，但可惜他没赢，不过他说他在布伦特伍德的英格兰公开赛上第一次现场观看了斯诺克比赛。
Now Matthias also entered the competition, but unfortunately he didn't win, but he says I went to watch live snooker for the first time at the English Open in Brentwood.
那真是一次非常棒的经历。
It was an absolutely fantastic experience.
我送女儿去英国作为她毕业的礼物，她是现场最年轻的观众之一。
I'd given my daughter a trip to England as a present for finishing school, and she was one of the youngest spectators in the audience.
我们玩得很开心，甚至三次看到了我们的偶像肖恩·墨菲。
We had a great time, and we're even able to see our star, Shaun Murphy, three times.
墨菲和庞的那场比赛，墨菲以四比三获胜，一直打到深夜。
The match between Murphy and Pang, which Murphy won four three, went on until late at night.
之后，作为最后一批留在现场的观众，我们甚至有机会和他握了手。
Afterwards, as some of the last spectators still there, we even got the chance to shake his hand.
嗯，我很高兴。
Well, I'm delighted.
我想你是德国人吧，马蒂恩说，我很高兴你和你女儿玩得开心。
I think you're from Germany, Matijn said, I'm delighted that you and your daughter enjoyed it.
顺便提一句，我相信肖恩对你们很好，还打了招呼，这一点我觉得球员们确实值得表扬。
And a little mention there, you know, I'm sure Sean was great with you and and said hello, and and that is one thing I think players do deserve credit for.
总的来说，他们通常会回应球迷，不只是回应，还会聊天、合影、签名。
By and large, they will, you know, acknowledge the fans, not only acknowledge them, talk to them, pose for selfies, take autographs.
作为一群人，他们在这方面做得很好，我觉得我们应该提一下，因为说实话，不是每项运动都这样，但在斯诺克里确实如此。
As a group of people, they're very good at that and I think we should say that because it's not true is it in every sport, let's be honest, but it is true in snooker.
我们接下来看祖贝尔·科雷希的消息。
We move on to Zuber Koreshi.
他说最近的橄榄球，是的。
He says the recent rugby so yeah.
抱歉。
Sorry.
我也不知道为什么我停在那里不读邮件了。
I don't know why I stopped reading the email there.
最近南非跳羚队和全黑队之间的橄榄球宿敌系列赛，让我想到了这项精彩运动中最伟大的宿敌对决。
The recent rugby greatest rivalry series between the Springboks and All Blacks got me thinking about the greatest rivalry in this wonderful sport.
大多数人会说亨利对怀特，那确实很精彩，但我觉得，嗯，是的。
Most will say Henry v White and it was superb, but for well, I think it yeah.
可能某个年龄段的人会这么说，但，你知道，反正。
People of a certain age might say that, but, know, anyway.
但对我来说，最伟大的宿敌对决是斯诺克繁荣和革命中至关重要的一部分，那就是史蒂夫·戴维斯对亚历克斯·希金斯。
But for me, the greatest was the rivalry that was the massive part of the snooker boom and revolution, which was Steve Davis versus Alex Higgins.
那场比赛简直令人着迷、引人入胜，扣人心弦，两人截然不同的性格，以及他们之间的火药味和紧张感。
It was just captivating, compelling and riveting in every way, the contrasting characters, the spice and tension between the two.
虽然总体上是史蒂夫占优，但亚历克斯的一些胜利永远不会被遗忘。
Although overall one-sided in favor of Steve, some of Alex's wins will never be forgotten.
他赢得了1980年克鲁斯堡四分之一决赛，史蒂夫赢得了1980年英国锦标赛决赛和1983年世界半决赛，然后当然还有皇冠上的明珠，1983年英国锦标赛决赛。
He won the nineteen eighty Crucible Quarter Final, Steve won the nineteen eighty UK final and the nineteen eighty three World Semi, then of course came the jewel in the crown, the eighty three UK final.
我们最年轻的斯诺克家庭可能不相信，但那个1983年1月初的周末，整个国家真的都停了下来。
Our And youngest Snooker family may not believe it, but literally the nation stopped that amazing weekend in early January nineteen eighty three.
从零比七落后逆转回来，那场面真是激动人心，星期天的时候更是让人揪心又期待。
The comeback from seven nil down was electric, then so close and tantalizing on the Sunday.
那真是纯粹的、令人难以置信的扣人心弦的戏剧性场面。
It was just pure unbelievable gripping drama.
那个周末我们有好几拨客人，每个人都完全被吸引住了，大人小孩都一样。
We had various sets of visitors that weekend and everyone was just glued to it, adults and kids.
最后我哭个不停，但第二天还得打起精神去参加五年级的圣诞剧演出，我可是主角呢。
I just cried and cried at the end, but had to somehow get myself up for the year five Christmas play the next day, where I have the leading role.
我得说，那场决赛对史蒂夫接下来两三年都产生了很深的影响。
I must say the final had a deep psychological impact on Steve for the next two or three years.
这些确实都是好料，但咱们也别忽略了那场圣诞剧。
I mean, this is all good stuff, but let's not gloss over the Christmas play.
他说他演主角。
He said had the leading role.
我是说，那是耶稣诞生剧吗？
I mean, was this the nativity?
圣诞节的时候，这看起来很明显。
It would seem obvious at Christmas.
他说是主角，我的意思是，你演的是小耶稣吗？
He said leading role, I mean, what were you baby Jesus?
我们想知道更多关于圣诞剧的事，但先继续往下说吧。
We need to know more about the Christmas play, but we'll move on.
第二年，也就是1984年的英国决赛，亚历克斯·斯托姆从8比2落后追到9比8，但幸好史蒂夫后来拉开了差距。
The next year again in the nineteen eighty four UK final, Alex Storm back from nine eight down to nine eight down from eight two behind, but thankfully, Steve pulled away.
所以你是史蒂夫的粉丝。
And so you you were a Steve fan.
最后，当然，85年大师赛的第一轮比赛，在午夜时分，在拥挤喧闹的温布利会议中心，亚历克斯以1比5落后。
Finally, of course, the first round of the eighty five masters were near midnight in a jam packed rowdy Wembley Conference Center, Alex one five four.
再说一次，年轻人可能不信，但第二天，各地的小学里，大家都在谈论这件事。
Again, young youngsters won't believe it, but next day, primary schools everywhere, everyone was talking about it.
一场大师赛的第一轮比赛。
A first round masters match.
那些日子真是太棒了。
What incredible days they were.
BBC的电影《Rack Pack》是对这场对决的精彩致敬。
The BBC movie Rack Pack was a brilliant tribute to the rivalry.
每次有比赛，我们都会查看对阵表，看看他们有没有可能碰面。
Whenever a tournament was on, we would always be checking the draw to see if there's a chance they may clash.
斯诺克能火起来，多亏了这两位传奇人物。
We owe these two icons so much for the way Snooker took off.
他们永远不会被遗忘。
They'll never be forgotten.
几年前，你在你的《斯诺克现场》博客里，把他们俩和亨顿、罗尼一起放进了斯诺克的“总统山”，读起来真让人感动。
Several years ago in your Snooker Scene blog, you put them both on Snooker's Mount Rushmore along with Hendon and Ronnie, and that was lovely to read.
很想听听你的想法。
Would love to get your thoughts.
嗯，祖拜尔，你其实已经说得很全面了。我想说的是，这场对决之所以成为对决，是因为他们风格迥异，而且他们都为斯诺克带来了不同的元素，这一点非常重要。
Well, Zubair, you've said it all really, I mean it's worth saying the rivalry, it was a rivalry because they were very different, and they both were very important in bringing different elements to Snooker.
亚历克斯·希金斯主要吸引的是工人阶级观众，而且我觉得他带来了一种危险感。
Alex Siggins brought a working class audience primarily and a kind of sense of danger I suppose.
史蒂夫虽然也出身工人阶级，但他因为形象干净，不是坏小子，也不是惹事生非的人，所以吸引了一批中产阶级观众，这也是80年代斯诺克发展壮大、成为体面职业运动所需要的。
Steve was from a working class background, but he because he was clean-cut and not a bad boy and not a hell raiser and tear away, he encouraged a kind of middle class audience, which Snooker also needed in the 1980s to grow and become a respectable professional sport.
所以这其实是同一枚硬币的两面。
So there were two sides really of the same coin.
史蒂夫显然非常专注，而亚历克斯·希金斯呢，你知道，他生活中有很多麻烦，这可能让他没能赢得更多比赛。
Steve obviously very dedicated, Alex Higgins you know, had a lot of complications in his life, which maybe stopped him winning more tournaments.
你提到了希金斯三次非常重要的胜利。
You mentioned there three very important wins for Higgins.
他赢了戴维斯，是的，在世锦赛上，当然，还有英国锦标赛决赛，从0比7落后到16比15逆转，还有大师赛上那次观众冲进球场的事件。
He won against Davis, yes, at the World Championship, of course, that UK final sixteen fifteen from seven nil down, and indeed at the Masters where there was that pitch invasion.
亚历克斯，我来总结一下。
And Alex and I'll this up.
好吗？
Okay?
所以我要用“糊弄”这个词。
So I'm gonna use the word fudging.
明白吗？
Okay?
这不是亚历克斯用的词，但我要用“糊弄”这个词。
It's not the word Alex used, but I'm gonna use the word fudging.
所以当他以十五比四领先时，场面完全失控了。
So when he's one five four, it's absolute pandemonium.
人们冲进赛场，他朝着某个方向的镜头大喊“我们糊弄回来了”，我敢肯定他因此被罚了款。
People are running into the arena, and he sort of looks somewhere towards the camera and shouts, we're fudging back, for which I'm sure he was fined.
所以那是三场重要的胜利，但总体来看，他们的交手记录——他们打了20场，其实打了31场，有一场平局，但戴维斯赢了25场，亚历克斯只赢了5场。
So they were three big wins, but overall, the head to head, they played 20 well, they played 31 times with one draw, but Davis won 25 and Alex only won five.
所以戴维斯在交手记录上遥遥领先，而且从一些比赛来看，他经常轻松击败亚历克斯。
So Davis had a massive lead in the head to head and beat Alex just looking through some of these matches often very comfortably.
但正如你指出的，亚历克斯·希金斯确实也有他高光时刻的胜利。
But it's true as well, as you've pointed out, that Alex Higgins had his high profile wins.
是的，我们有过很多伟大的对决，而我觉得这一对也算不错，不过就像现在的罗尼·奥沙利文和阿里·卡特一样，那场比赛几乎是一边倒地偏向罗尼·奥沙利文，尽管人们真正感兴趣的是他们之间的个人恩怨。
Yeah, I mean we've had a lot of great rivalries and that's one that I think is a good one other than the fact that a bit like now Ronnie O'Sullivan, Ali Carter, I mean that's incredibly one-sided towards Ronnie O'Sullivan even though the sort of personal rivalry is really what people are interested in.
人们看斯诺克，从现代角度来看，也就是从1969年世界锦标赛开放以来，第一对宿敌就是雷·里尔顿和约翰·斯宾塞。
People look at Snooker in the sort of modern age, so from the time the World Championship went open in 1969, the first rivalry was Ray Reardon and John Spencer.
他们俩不太喜欢对方，性格也完全不同，总是互相激怒对方，尤其是里尔顿，他对此还挺高兴的，他跟我聊过这个，当时我为了写那本《金罐》采访了他。
They didn't particularly like each other, they weren't the same sort of people, they riled each other all, certainly Reardon and Reardon was very happy about that as he told me when I interviewed him for the aforementioned book Pots of Gold.
我觉得戴维斯和希金斯是八十年代初的宿敌，后来就变成了亨德利和怀特，那对和里尔顿与斯宾塞正好相反，是非常友好的竞争关系。
I guess, Davis Higgins was kind of the rivalry in the in the early eighties, which gave way to, yes, Henry White, and that was a that was the opposite of the Reardon Spencer, that was a very friendly rivalry.
吉米是斯蒂芬·亨德利从小到大的偶像，他非常欣赏吉米的击球技巧、那种潇洒和张扬的球风，所以他们俩相处得很好，打法也很相似，只是在世锦赛决赛中，正如我们所知，那四次决赛，亨德利最终表现得更好。
I mean, Jimmy was Stephen Hendry's hero growing up, he really admired his shot making and his sort of panache and his flare, so they got on those two and they played a very similar game, it's just that in the World Finals, as we know those four World Finals, Henry played it better ultimately.
在其他大型比赛中，吉米其实经常赢他，但在克鲁斯堡就不行了。
In other big tournaments Jimmy beat him quite often actually, but not at the crucible.
然后我想我们还有92一代，那是一个三方对决。
And then I guess we had sort of the class of '92 was a three way rivalry.
我觉得研究希金斯、奥沙利文、希金斯和威廉姆斯，以及威廉姆斯和奥沙利文之间的不同动态很有意思。
I think that's an interesting dynamic to examine Higgins, O'Sullivan Higgins Williams and Williams O'Sullivan, all slightly different.
我总觉得，虽然数据不一定支持，但我总是看好马克能赢约翰，我总看好罗尼能赢马克，然后我总觉得约翰能赢罗尼。
I always sort of whenever, and the stats don't always bear this out, but I always kind of back Mark to beat John, I always back Ronnie to beat Mark, and I kind of always back John to beat Ronnie.
就像三方对峙一样。
It's like a three way standoff.
当然，这并不总是发生，也有过一些高调的场合不是这样，但有趣的是，每对 rivalry 都有不同的动态。
Now that obviously that doesn't always happen and there's been high profile occasions where it hasn't happened, but it's interesting there's sort of different dynamics to each of those rivalries.
我想从那以后，我们有罗尼·奥沙利文和马克·塞尔比，那是一种典型的 rivalry，因为就像戴维斯和希金斯一样，他们是两种不同类型的球员，两种不同的个性。
I guess since then we've had Ronnie O'Sullivan and Mark Selby, that is a sort of quintessential rivalry because again like Davis Higgins, it's two different types of player, two different types of personality.
你知道，一边是奥沙利文这样的大人物，天才，伟大的单杆得分手，有激情的球员，另一边是马克·塞尔比，勤奋，战术家，两位都是伟大的球员。我觉得我们现在也看到了，他们在武汉打过比赛，你看到他们之间其实有很多尊重，这些年来他们也有过一些摩擦，但我觉得，最终所有这些球员，包括里尔登和斯宾塞，他们最终都能反思说，看，我们只是斯诺克球员，我们打了比赛，我们尽了全力，我们都赢了很多，让我们把舞台留给下一代。
You've got the sort of, you know, the big character in O'Sullivan, genius, the, you know, the great brake builder, the flare player, and then you've got Mark Selby, the hard worker, you know, the tactician if you like, both great players and I think we've seen now, they played in Wuhan and you see actually a lot of respect between the two and they've had their moments over the years, but I think, you know, ultimately all these guys, and it would be true of Reardon and Spencer in the end as well, they could all just reflect, look, we've just been snooker players, we played the game, we played it our best, we've all won plenty, and let's leave it to the next slot.
那么下一个 rivalry 是什么？
So what's the next rivalry?
我觉得有一种假设，而且肯定是错的，就是所有中国球员之间关系都很好。
I mean, think there's an assumption and it must be wrong that all the Chinese players must get on great.
那凭什么？
Well why should they?
他们凭什么要相处得好呢？
Why should they?
所以，看看中国球员中会不会出现真正的 rivalry，会很有意思。
So it'd be interesting to see if a proper rivalry develops between a couple of the Chinese players coming through.
我们拭目以待吧。总之，感谢你带来的回忆，那些都是美好的回忆。
We'll see, but anyway thank you for your memories and good memories they were.
现在，Rob Francis 当然也来过我们的播客，而且我们知道，他不是超级粉丝，别这么叫他。
Now, Rob Francis, of course, has been on the podcast, and as we know, he's not a super fan, don't call him that.
但他说，谢谢你把我一直以来的想法说清楚了，就是关于他应该再多拿一个冠军这件事。
But he says, thank you for articulating what I've always thought regarding that he should have one more phrase.
每次听到别人这么说，我都特别烦，因为这基本上就引出了一个问题：这些冠军从哪儿来？在这个问题上，似乎从来没人能给出一个明确的答案。
It eternally bugs me whenever I hear people say this because it essentially raises the question as to where these titles would come from, a front on which nobody ever seems able to really give a clear answer.
和这项运动中的 talent 相比，奖杯的数量实在太少了，而且最令人垂涎的那个一年只有一次机会。
The number of trophies out there is pretty small compared to the talent we have in the sport, and the most coveted coveted of them only comes once a year.
整个斯诺克巡回赛的奖杯根本不够分，不可能每个球员都能赢得他们应得的冠军。
There simply is not enough silverware across the snooker circuit for every player to have won what they should.
这和“未达预期”这个词的情况类似。
It's similar with the term underachiever.
从统计角度来说，为了平衡起见，如果有球员未达预期，那也一定有过球员超出预期，但后者我们听到的相对少得多。
Statistically speaking, in the name of balance, if a player is underachieved, there must also have been a player who is overachieved, but that's an area you hear comparatively little about.
当然，你可以加上“相对于预期”这样的说法，就像上期节目里一位听众提到的那样，这样可能更容易接受，但本质上不是一回事。
Of course, you can add relative to expectation perhaps, excuse me, as one of your listeners did in the last episode, which may be a bit more palatable, but it's ultimately not the same thing.
我其实在最近的世界锦标赛结束后不久，就匆忙做了一点小调查，问大家巡回赛里哪些球员被认为未达预期，结果答案包括整个92班、前20名中的14人，以及前32名中的20人。
I actually conducted a bit of hasty research on this shortly after the recent world championship, asking for players on tour who people thought had underachieved with responses including the entire class of 92, 14 of the top twenty, and twenty of the top 32.
大家显然会有不同的看法，这只是其中一些观点，但这些数字高得离谱，说明“未达预期”这个词在涵盖如此大比例顶尖球员时，其实没什么意义。
Folk will obviously have different opinions, and this is a spread of them, but these are ridiculously high numbers and point to underachiever being a rather senseless term when it's encompassing such a huge portion of top players.
如果真有这种事，从数学上讲也不可能达到我们常听到的那种规模。
If such a thing does exist, it's mathematically not possible for it to be on the scale we tend to hear about.
前20名中没被列为未达预期的六位球员是肖国栋、吴宜泽、凯伦·威尔逊、吕昊天、克里斯·韦克林和张安达。
The six of the top 20 who didn't come up as underachievers were Xiao Zing Tong, Wu Yizi, Conan Wilson, Xiao Gu Dong, Chris Wakelin and Zhang Yanda.
他们是不是明显超出了预期呢？
Have they been significantly overachieved?
我当然不会这么说。
I certainly wouldn't say so.
你也很少听到有人说某个球员赢的刚刚好，就是那种普通的成就者，但实际上巡回赛上基本上每个人都是这样。
You never hear many players described as having won exactly the right amount either, the plain old achievers, but it's basically everyone on tour really.
最近听到有人说阿里·卡特应该赢更多，这让我有点不爽，我觉得这低估了七个排名赛冠军是多么了不起的成就。
Hearing people say Ali Kata should have won more did get somewhat under my skin recently, and I think it understates what a fantastic achievement seven ranking titles is.
这在历史上并列第十六位。
It's joint sixteenth of all time.
我想你可以说这基本上只是一种客套话，是对能力和潜力的一种赞美，但我觉得我们不应该忘记，即使赢得相对较少的奖杯有多难，而且收集它们的机会是多么有限。
I guess you could argue it's essentially just a nicety, a compliment on ability and potential, but I don't think we should forget just how hard it is to win even a relatively small number of trophies and how finite the opportunities are to collect them.
顺便说一句，再次感谢你邀请我上节目。
PS, thanks again for inviting on the show.
在切尔滕纳姆和布伦特伍德都收到了很多很好的反馈。
Had a lot of great feedback from folk in both Cheltenham and Brentwood.
我感觉大家真的很喜欢。
I got the impression people really enjoyed it.
好的，谢谢你，Rob，你在节目上表现得非常好。Rob刚才把我的意思说得很清楚，就像他说的，比赛就那么几场。
Well, thank you, Rob, you were very good on the show, and Rob has articulated there very clearly what I was saying, which is that as he says, there's only so many tournaments.
如果一个选手赢得多，另一个选手自然就赢得少。
If one player wins more, another player will win fewer.
这是基本事实。
That's just a basic fact.
所以我觉得，你可以看看像马修·史蒂文斯这样的选手。
So I I think I suppose you you know, you you can look at for example, someone like Matthew Stevens.
马修在2000年代初，大概二十年前，是世界上最顶尖的四五个选手之一。
Now Matthew, in the early two thousands, we got about twenty years, was one of the four or five best players in the game.
他赢得了一个排名赛冠军，就是2003年的英国锦标赛。
He won one ranking title, the UK Championship in 2003.
对于他这样的潜力选手来说，这看起来确实有点少，但你知道，这并不能说明全部，因为他赢得了大师赛，还赢得了苏格兰大师赛，那在当时可是一个大型邀请赛，所有顶尖选手都参加。
That does seem a low return for a player with his potential, but you know that doesn't tell the whole story because he won the masters, he won the Scottish masters which was a huge invitation event at the time, all the top players.
事实上，这是真的，他在1999年击败了92届的三位成员，罗尼·奥沙利文、约翰·希金斯和马克·威廉姆斯，才赢得那个冠军。
In fact, beat, this is true, he beat all three members of the class of '92 to win that in 1999, Ronnie O'Sullivan, John Higgins, Mark Williams.
他还赢了北岛杯，那同样是个邀请赛。
He won the North Island trophy, which was similarly an invitation event.
他两次打进世锦赛决赛，这已经很了不起了。
He was in two world finals, which takes him doing.
所以，你知道，他算不算没达到预期呢？
So, you know, has did he underachieve?
嗯，从某些标准看，是的，但从其他方面看，又不是。
Well, by some metrics, yes, but by others, no.
他的职业生涯很出色，而且他现在还在打球。
He had a a fine career, and of course, he's still playing now.
不过，谢谢你提出来，你说得很有道理。
But anyway, thank you for bringing that to our attention, and, you made some very good points.
加里·加利根说，嗨，戴维小子。
Gary Galligan says, hi, Davey boy.
有没有陶严冰重返巡回赛的消息，还是他选择了不同的人生道路？
Any news if Yanbing Tao will return to the tour, or has he pursued a different path in life?
第二点，我很想听听关于已故的伟大球员保罗·亨特的一两个故事。
Number two, I'd love to hear a story or two on the late great Paul Hunter.
他到底能有多出色？他能不能达到威廉姆斯、希金斯、特鲁姆普、塞尔比那样的伟大水平？
How could how good could he have been could he have reached Williams Higgins Trump Selby level of greatness?
谢谢，你的大兄弟G。
Thanks, your big bro g.
嗯，G，关于严冰涛，我听说他搬去越南了。
Well, g, Yanbing Tao, I heard he'd moved to Vietnam.
我不知道他现在还在不在那里。
I don't know whether he's still there.
我觉得他明年可能能回来，但会不会回来，我也不清楚。时不时会听到关于他的消息，但我想我们走着瞧吧。
I think he can come back next year, but whether he will I don't know, I don't know, you hear every now and again the story about him, but we'll see I guess.
保罗·亨特，我会做一期节目来纪念他去世二十周年，到时候我会更详细地聊聊他。
Paul Hunter, I will be doing an episode to mark the passing of Paul Hunter twenty years ago, so I'll go into more detail then about him.
但我的意思是，他已经很厉害了，他赢过三次大师赛，而且我相信他本来还能赢更多比赛的。
But I mean, was already good, I mean, he won the Masters three times, you know, and would have won a lot more tournaments, I'm sure.
其实，你知道吗，这更有点针对性，对吧？现在他应该47岁了，比92届的球员还年轻，他可能现在还能和顶尖选手竞争，这是事实。
In fact, the thing is, you know, and it's kind of more pointed in a way, right, you know, right now he'd be 47, he would still be younger than the class of '92 or at the top, he could still be contending with torments now, is the truth.
不过，我会在下周或者几周后的特别节目中详细讲这个。
But anyway, I'll I'll do that in a in a special episode next week or in a couple of weeks time.
这周我可能漏掉了一些邮件，因为收件箱被“金罐大赛”的参赛作品淹没了，再次感谢大家。但我找到一封约翰的邮件，他说：我同意你对赛季初怪异的观察，但比起顶尖球员表现不佳，我注意到的是排名更低的很多球员在打球。
I may have missed a few emails this week because the inbox was flooded with Pots of Gold competition entries, for which I thank you again, but I found one here from John, he says, I agree with your observation of the weirdness the start of the season, but more than underperforming top players what I've noticed is many players further down the rankings playing.
奇怪的是，他们不是来自中国，像长期以来的情况那样，而是来自英国和爱尔兰。
The weird part is they're not from China as has been the long running story, but from The UK and Ireland.
这里快速回顾一下：杰克·琼斯在冠军联赛和英国公开赛连续赢得排名赛冠军。
Here's a quick recap, so Jack Jones back to back ranking titles at the Championship League and British Open.
利亚姆·海菲尔德在英国公开赛上首次进入职业生涯排名赛半决赛。
Liam Highfield, first career ranking semifinal at the British Open.
你说奥利弗·莱恩斯首次进入英国公开赛半决赛，那不是这个赛季的事，当然是几年前了。
You say you're Oliver Lyons first semifinal at the British Open, that wasn't this season, course, was a couple of years ago now.
杰克逊·佩奇也一样，他进入冠军联赛决赛也不是今年，我想那是几年前的事了。
Ditto Jackson Page Championship League final, that wasn't this year, that would have been well a couple of years ago I think.
亚伦·希尔打进了英国公开赛的八强，斯坦·穆迪也进了八强，在武汉公开赛和英国公开赛上，莱昂·克劳利和威尔逊打到了五比五平，在国际锦标赛资格赛的决胜局中决出胜负。
Aaron Hill reached the British Open quarter finals, Stan Moody quarter finals, Wuhan and British Open, Leon Crowley took Wilson to five each, the decider on the green in the international championship qualifying.
嗯，其实他当时是五比二领先的。
Well, I mean, he was he was five two up actually.
利亚姆·戴维斯在英格兰公开赛上首次打进排名赛八强，利亚姆·波拉德以两个四比零战胜保罗·莫里斯和本·沃拉斯顿，晋级了九球公开赛。
Liam Davies first ranking quarter final at the English Open, Liam Pollard qualified for the all nine open with two four nil wins over Paul Morris and Ben Wollaston.
这才是我关注斯诺克的第三个赛季，我对这些球员天赋的欣赏越来越深。
This is only my third season following Snooker, and my appreciation for the talent keeps getting deeper.
我很期待看到这些相对年轻的球员在赛季初展现出的那种拼搏和决心。
I'm eager to see more of the display of grit and determination these relatively young players have shown us early in the season.
我觉得这些名字里确实有一些很突出的。
I mean, some some good standout names there.
显然，我们早就知道斯坦·穆迪和利亚姆·波拉德了。
Obviously, we've known about Stan Moody and Liam Pollan for a while.
就像我说的，利亚姆·戴维斯看起来真的非常非常强。
Liam Davey's, as I say, is looking really, really strong.
我非常看好亚伦·希尔。
Aaron Hill, I rate very highly.
说实话，看到这些年轻选手冒出来是件好事。我倒不太在意他们是不是来自英国和爱尔兰，关键是看到年轻选手不断涌现，因为任何运动都需要更新换代，年轻的天才就能带来这种活力。
It's good to see to be honest, I'm not as bothered about where they're from from The UK and Ireland there, but it's just good to see young players coming through because all sport needs to renew itself and refresh itself and younger talent will do that.
资格赛很艰难，你知道的，要打出来不容易。我知道现在有很多讨论，说大多数赛事又回到了那种分级赛制。
The qualifying is tough, know, it's tough to come through, I know there's a lot of discussion about the way that most of the tournaments have now gone back to this tiered system.
关于这个，我想说的是，我觉得有些抱怨挺有意思的，因为确实有很多选手之前抱怨过那种平签制。
What I will say about that is that I do find it quite amusing some of the complaints, because it is an absolute fact that a lot of players complained about the flat draw system.
他们说，哎呀，第一轮就碰上马克·塞尔比、贾德·特鲁姆普或者马克·威廉姆斯，这不太对吧。
They said oh it's not right that I should play Mark Selby or Judd Trump or Mark Williams in the first round.
那不公平。
That's not that that's not fair.
但现在换成分级赛制，显然又有人说不公平。
But now it's gone to the tiered system, apparently that's not fair either.
说到底，比赛就是要赢球。你知道的，92一代，他们之所以这么叫，是因为他们在1992年转为职业选手，这也是事实。
It does come down to winning matches, you know, the class of '92, they're called that because they turned pro in 1992, and again it's a fact.
他们得赢下10场比赛才能晋级到正赛场地。
They had to win 10 matches to qualify for the venues.
从布莱克浦的诺布雷克开始，要连赢10场才能过关。
10 matches from the Norbrek in Blackpool to get through.
现在也确实是这样，你知道，当时很多参赛选手的水平跟现在根本没法比，但即便如此，要一路打出来、晋级到正赛场地，还是得费很大劲。
Now it's it's also true, you know, a lot of people that were playing there were not anywhere near the standard until now, but it still took a hell of a lot of doing to get through to qualify, to get to a venue.
是10场比赛，不是两场，是十场。
10 matches, not two, ten.
所以一直以来都不容易。
So it's always been tough.
一直都是适者生存。
It's always been about survival of the fittest.
体育就是这样。
That's what sports about.
而且我觉得问题在于——我之前也说过——种子签位、平签，这些先放一边，咱们先说说这个。
And I think the issue, and I've said this before, tiered draws, flat draws, that's well, let's let's deal with that first.
好的。
Okay.
球员们觉得奖金是从哪里来的？
Where do players think prize money comes from?
他们觉得奖金是从天上掉下来的，还是有人摇一摇魔法摇钱树？
Do they think it falls from the sky or someone shakes at a magic money tree?
奖金来自商业收入。
Prize money comes from commercial revenue.
商业收入又从哪里来？
Where does commercial revenue come from?
它来自赞助商、转播方、赛事推广方，还有门票收入。
It comes from sponsorship, broadcasters, it comes from promoters, and it comes from ticket revenue.
这些是主要的来源。
Overwhelmingly they're the main places it comes from.
所以这些方面都得对赛事的赛制感到满意。
So those constituencies have to be satisfied with the format of a tournament.
所以前十六名选手才能直接进入克鲁斯堡。
That's why the top 16 are held over to the crucible.
如果让罗尼·奥沙利文、贾德·特鲁姆普、马克·塞尔比这些人都从庞斯福德开始打资格赛，那简直荒谬透顶——不是庞斯福德，是英国体育学院——去争取克鲁斯堡的参赛资格。
It would be absolutely ludicrous to make Ronnie O'Sullivan and Judd Trump and Mark Selby and all those guys start out at Pons four, George, that's not Pons four, it's English Institute of Sport to try and qualify for the crucible.
那样的话，BBC就不会再播了。
That will be the end of the BBC showing it.
对吧？
Alright?
所以这就是现实。
So that's the real world.
明白吗？
Okay?
奖金来自商业收入，所以商业合作伙伴必须对赛制满意。
Prize money comes from commercial revenue, so the commercial partners have to be satisfied with the formats.
我们之前有两个排名赛。
We had two ranking events.
这就是因为这个原因而改变的事实。
This is a fact that went because of this.
上海大师赛，他们试图强制推行旧的世界斯诺克巡回赛管理层的做法，试图在该赛事中采用平签制。
The Shanghai Masters, they tried to impose the old World Snooker Tour administration, tried to impose a flat draw on that tournament.
他们不接受，然后他们说，好吧，从现在开始，我们要把它变成邀请赛。
They didn't want it, and they said, oh, well, from now on, we're gonna have an invitation event.
而且这个邀请赛办得非常成功，也很受欢迎，但低排名选手因此失去了一个排名赛的机会。
And it's a very successful one and a very popular one, but lower end players lost a ranking event because of that.
第二个是无锡精英赛，不仅采用了平签制，而且那是在2014年，丁俊晖被要求参加资格赛。
The second was the Wuxi Classic, where not only was it a flat draw, but this is back in 2014, Ding Junwei was made to qualify.
丁俊晖甚至不是来自中国其他地方，他就是无锡本地人。
Now Ding is not even from China, he's from Wuxi City itself.
对吧？
Okay?
就在赛事举办地，他们却让他去巴恩斯利打资格赛，而那时候中国顶尖选手并不多，实际上几乎没有。
Where the event is played, they made him go to Barnsley, and this was a time when there weren't that many many other sort of top Chinese players, hardly any actually.
结果他当然就0比5输了。
And of course, he lost five nil.
我记得是奥利弗·布朗赢了他。
I think Oliver Brown beat him.
总之，那届比赛就这么结束了。
Anyway, that was the end of that tournament.
丁俊晖没参加，比赛也就没了。
Ding wasn't in it and it went.
所以，这些才是决定赛事形式的现实因素。
So these are the real world considerations for the format of tournaments.
说白了，这跟球员想要什么没关系。
It's not about what players want, frankly.
关键是出钱的人想要什么，他们得满意，觉得该有的都有了。
It's about what the people putting the money in one, and they have to be satisfied that they have the elements that they want.
说实话，对大多数办赛的人来说——你也会这样，我要是办赛也会这样——我们都想请最有名的球员来，你猜为什么？
And let's be honest, for most people putting on a tournament, and you'd be the same, and I'd be the same if we're to promote a tournament, we want the best known names there because guess what?
我们想卖门票给观众。
We wanna sell tickets to the tournament.
我们希望人们能收看比赛。
We want people to tune in and watch.
而且我们非常清楚观众想看哪些选手。
And overwhelmingly we know the players that they want to tune in and watch.
这就是为什么罗尼·奥沙利文突然又出现在冠军锦标赛的名单上，而最初世界元老赛并不在名单上，现在突然被加进来了，但当然它应该被加进来。
That's why suddenly Ronnie O'Sullivan is back in the frame for the champion of champions when originally the world seniors, you know, wasn't on the list, suddenly it's on the list, but of course it is.
如果我是赛事推广人，我也会希望他参赛。
If I was promoting the tournament, I'd want him in there as well.
所以这是第一点，而这一点在我们讨论分级抽签和扁平抽签时很少被提及。
So that's one thing and that that's sort of we don't hear anywhere near enough of that when when we hear about this tiered draw versus flat draw.
似乎只是某个排名上的选手在抱怨，却没有提供任何背景或解释为什么会有这种差异。
All it seems to be is some player from somewhere in the rankings just complaining about it without any context or explanation about why there is this difference.
所以这是第一点。
So that's the first thing.
但第二件事，我觉得这个问题更值得讨论，就是目前的排名系统。
But the second thing, and I think this is a more credible issue, is the current ranking system.
我们被告知奖金制度是平签制所需要的，你可以说这是对的，尽管不是每项赛事都是平签制。
We were told the prize money system is what's needed for the flat draw system and you can argue that that's right, although not every event was flat draw.
但现在几乎都不是了。
But now almost none of them are.
我觉得我们的奖金制度不能保持不变，而且我认为肯定有改变它的动向，因为显然有些球员，比如在英国锦标赛上赢一场比赛就能拿到15000个排名积分，而其他人要赢五场比赛才能得到同样的分数。
I don't see our prize money system can remain and I think that there are moves definitely to change it because there are obviously certain players who, you know, if they win one match, say in the UK championship, they're on 15,000 ranking points, someone else is up to win five matches to get the same amount.
这看起来不太公平，所以这是一个更值得讨论的问题，我相信这个讨论还会继续。
Doesn't seem right, so that is a more credible issue for discussion and I'm sure that discussion will continue.
我想最后一封邮件是约翰·克罗斯利发来的，如果我漏掉了任何邮件，我道歉，但正如我所说，我被参赛作品淹没了。
I think the last email is from John Crossley, if I've missed any I apologize, but as I say I was swamped by the competition entries.
你会注意到这周没有比赛，但你知道，将来可能会有。
You'll notice there isn't a competition this week, but, you know, there may be one in the future.
约翰说，在采访中正确称呼中国球员的方式是什么？
John says, what is the correct way of addressing Chinese players in interviews?
我可能有点无知，但据我所知，中文名字是姓在前，名在后，采访中通常应该用他们的名字来称呼他们。
I may be showing my ignorance here, but as I understood it, Chinese names are family name followed by given name, and presumably, would be normal to address them using their given name in an interview.
比如邢桐、一子或冰玉，而不是赵、顾或程。
Xingtong, Yizi, or Bingyu, not Zhao, Gu, or Cheng.
但我最近听到的所有对中国选手的采访中，采访者都是用他们的姓来称呼他们。
But in all interviews with Chinese players I've heard recently, the interviewer calls them by their family name.
对，你说得对。
Yeah, you're right.
比如我听到Hazel采访丁俊晖时，叫他俊晖，因为正如你所说，那是他的名，而丁是他的姓。
I've heard for example Hazel when she interviews Ding Junwei, call him Junwei because that as you say is his sort of given name and then Ding is his family name.
所以你说得很对，在中国是反过来的，而且你知道，如果我去中国，他们会叫我Hendon David，因为对他们来说也是反过来的。
So you're quite right, it is the other way around in China and you know, went to China, they would call me Hendon David because again for them it was the other way around.
所以是的，我觉得做采访的人可能需要考虑这一点，但不管怎样，你提出来了，我们很感谢你。
So yeah, I guess it's something that people doing interviews maybe need to think about, but anyway, you brought this to our attention and we thank you for it.
我是在周六录的这期节目，所以如果你在周六下午之后发了邮件，那会在下一期里读出来。
I'm recording this on a Saturday, so if you've sent in any emails after Saturday afternoon then they will be read out in the next episode.
不过，还是谢谢大家的收听，就像我说的，深圳这周会有大事发生。
But anyway, thank you for listening, and as I say, a big week ahead in Shenzhen.
我觉得这肯定会是一场有趣的比赛，因为，嗯，其实不管怎样都会很有趣，但主要是因为本赛季刚开始，还没有什么明确的看点，除了比赛结果有点分散，我们看到的不是不同的冠军，而是可能让人意外的冠军。
I think it promises to be an interesting tournament just because of well, it'd be interesting anyway, obviously, but just because of the way the season started, there's no sort of narrative yet really other than it's been a bit disparate and we've seen not any different winners, but maybe surprising winners.
所以我很期待看到谁会脱颖而出，而且这也是赛季中的一个重要时刻，因为我们即将迎来英国挑战赛，每个人都想进入前16名。
So be fascinated to see, you know, just who comes out on top and it's also an important time of the season as we approach the UK Challenge because everyone wants to be in the top 16 for that.
所以，如果能一路过关斩将，赢得177,000排名积分，那在这方面会很有帮助。
So coming through the pack winning 177,000 ranking points, you know, would help on that regard.
凯伦·威尔逊对此很感兴趣，他在世界锦标赛前16名的争夺中落后大约90,000分，这是考虑到本赛季即将扣除的积分。
Karen Wilson is interested in, you know, he's about 90,000 points behind on the world championship race, the top 16, that's taking the points off that are coming off this season.
所以，90,000分，你基本上得赢一个锦标赛才行。
So 90,000 points, you kinda gotta win a tournament.
当然，凯伦·威尔逊随时都可能做到，但这也是一个值得关注的看点。
Now, course, Karen Wilson could do that any day now, but that's a narrative to follow.
当然，如果我们到了大师赛，他还在16名之外，那他进入的压力就会越来越大。
Certainly, if we get let's say we get to the masters and he's still outside that 16, pressure's gonna grow a bit on him to to get in.
不然的话，他就得去打资格赛了。
Otherwise, he'll be qualifying.
这种情况以前当然也发生过，比如丁俊晖。
And and that's happened, of course, in the past to Ding Jim Wee.
尼尔·罗伯逊也遇到过。
It's happened to Neil Robertson.
我们拭目以待吧。
We will see.
这个赛季还有很多时间。
There's a lot of time left this season.
赛程还挺紧的。
Quite a busy period.
我是说，深圳公开赛之后其实有两周的空档，但接下来还有北爱尔兰赛、国际锦标赛、冠军联赛等等，一个接一个。
I say that it's actually two weeks with nothing on after the Shenzhen open, but then we've got Northern Ireland, we've got the international championship, Chamini champions, and so on and so on.
英锦赛，那可是个大比赛，还在后面呢。
UK championship, big event to come.
不过，如果你有任何意见或问题，可以发邮件到 snookerscenepodcast@mail.com。
But anyway, if you've got any comments or queries snooker scene podcast at mail.com is the address snookerscenepodcast@mail.com.
再次感谢所有参加比赛的朋友，如果你们能看比赛的话，祝你们本周愉快。
Thanks again for everyone who entered the competition and enjoy the week if you can watch it.
如果你要去深圳，记得告诉我们。
Let us know if you're going to Shenzhen.
当然，我们很乐意听到你的消息。
Obviously, we'd be delighted to hear from you.
和往常一样，祝最好的球员获胜。
And as ever, may the best player win.
就这样。
That's it.
感谢收听本期斯诺克现场播客，就像我们常说的，再见啦。
So thanks for listening to this episode of the Snooker Scene Podcast, and as we always say, it is goodbye bye.
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