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大家好，欢迎收听菲尔·海格和尼克·麦卡弗再次带来的台球话题新一期节目，我们继续聊聊我们都热爱的这项运动。
Hello, and welcome to a new episode of talking snooker with Phil Haig and Nick Metcalfe once again talking about the game we all love.
确实如此。
We are indeed.
我相信现在体育界很多人都在关注世界杯。
I'm sure a lot of people in the sporting world are pretty focused on the World Cup at the minute.
今晚刚比完比利时对埃及，不过我们今天要把焦点放在莱斯特的马蒂奥利竞技场。
Just had Belgium against Egypt this evening, but we're gonna focus ourselves on the Matioli Arena, Leicester.
没那么耀眼啊，菲尔。
Slightly less glamorous, Phil.
没错。
Absolutely.
正如你所说，全世界的目光现在都被北美——美国、墨西哥和加拿大——的足球盛事吸引了。
The world's attention being taken up, as you rightly say, by events in North America, in The United States, Mexico, and Canada, and the start of football's greatest show.
所有的运动项目，不光是斯诺克，都得争取自己的位置，对吧？
So all sports, not just this one, has to fight for its corner, doesn't it?
这个道理我们都懂。
Because we all know that.
说真的，没有什么能比得上每四年一次的世界杯和奥运会。
I mean, nothing quite compares to the World Cups and Olympics every four years.
正因它们难得一见，才显得这么特别、这么吸引人。
It's a scarcity value of them, isn't it, that makes them that's one of the reasons they are so special and so captivating.
不过，正如你所说，斯诺克赛季一直没停，新赛季早就开始了。
But, of course, as you say, snooker has been going on, the new season underway.
中国公开赛的资格赛已经在莱斯特结束了，咱们现在常把这儿称作斯诺克的新家。
And China Open qualifying, well, that's now been completed in Leicester, the new home of the game, as we often say now.
菲尔，咱们别绕弯子了，直接开始吧？
And, Phil, let's get straight on with it, shall we?
咱们来聊聊那边比赛的一些故事和关键结果。
Some look at some of those stories and and key results from the action there.
当天赛季一开始，我就在电台直播斯诺克赛事，当时我心想，安东·卡萨科斯打完一场精彩的比赛后，去吃了个午饭，就在附近溜达了会儿，然后我才打算看看比分。
And, well, I was on air of my radio snooker service on day one of the season, and, well, I I was thinking that Anton Kasakos, after an absolute flyer, you know, went about my had a bit of lunch, you know, pottered around a bit locally, and then I'll have a look.
结果他以四比六输了。
Lost six four.
杰米·克拉克上演了惊天逆转，最终拿下胜利。
Amazing comeback from Jamie Clark there to claim victory.
看到年轻选手吉米·怀特也在赛季首日赢得比赛，真是让人高兴。
And good to see young butt, Jimmy White, as well claim victory on day one of the season.
他以六比二击败了肖恩·奥沙利文。
He beat Sean O'Sullivan six two.
还有，菲尔，上个赛季‘单杆147’可是个热门话题。
And then Phil, I mean, we one four sevens was one of the themes of last season.
我们一开始根本想不到会有这么多单杆满分，虽然赛季后半段稍微少了一些，但总数还是非常惊人。
We we couldn't get our head around the numbers that were I thought it slowed down a little bit in the second half of the season, but it was still it was still kind of remarkable numbers.
赛季第二天，迈克尔·霍尔特就打出了一杆147。
Day two of the season, already a one four seven for Michael Holt.
这是他职业生涯的首个满分杆，对迈克尔来说意义非凡，他还以6比1击败了马克·乔伊斯。
Great thing is the first of his career, that's a special one for Michael, beat Mark Joyce six one as well.
在带大家看最终资格赛结果之前，我刚又收到几条消息。
And I've just picked up a couple of lines as well before we take you through those final qualifying round results.
第三天，斯图尔特·宾汉姆以6比4战胜了伊恩·伯恩斯。
Day three, Stuart Bingham had a had a victory over Ian Burns by six frames to four.
卢卡·瓦切爾對傑米·克拉克的比賽特別精彩，最終以6比5獲勝。
And Luka Vacel, Jamie Clark was a real exciting one, six five for Luka.
第四天的比賽中，我們差一點又看到一杆147分。
And in the day four line fill, we nearly had another one four seven.
那是祖斯，可惜最后一颗黑球没打进。
This was Zeusse who who missed the final black.
我注意到你们每周一通过邮件提供的精彩台球数据服务，做得非常好，还特别提到了这一幕。
And I noticed on your, excellent table service available every Monday on email, you highlighted the scoring and quite rightly put this.
琼斯在公开赛中打出了单杆116分。
Jones made a one one six in the open.
让我把这话说清楚。
Let me get this right here.
宙斯随后打出了88、59、54、50、110和140的单杆。
Zeusseur then made breaks of 88, 59, 54, fifty, one ten, and one forty.
菲爾，我覺得有人碰過球桌了。
I think someone's been on the platter's table, Phil.
他以6比1贏了。
He he won six one.
順便說一下，三冠王賽事中對單杆147的額外獎勵已經取消了。
By the way, noticed the bonus for the, the the the one four seven with the triple crowd events has gone.
這其實很合理，畢竟這種單杆147現在實在太常見了。
Totally understandable, I think, really, when you think about how crazily commonplace that they've they've become.
不過，你這邊還是有不少精彩的對局。
But, yeah, some some good lines there for you.
邁克爾這幾場打得真漂亮。
Lovely stuff for Michael.
索萨这次差一点就成功了，这种擦肩而过的遗憾，对斯诺克选手来说一定特别难受。
And one of those agonizing near misses from Sousa that must be horrible for snooker players.
是的。
Yeah.
没错。
Absolutely.
对。
Yeah.
我不确定是不是直播画面没切到那张球台，因为我哪儿都没看到这个镜头。
I I don't know if that just wasn't on the stream table, because I've not seen that anywhere.
我也不知道那一杆黑球是怎么打的。
I don't know what the shot on the black looked like.
所以我不清楚是我们没看到，还是根本就没流传出来。
So I don't know if we just missed that or it's just it's not floating about anywhere.
如果我们漏掉了，有人看到的话麻烦发给我们一下。
If we have missed it in ears, someone send it to us, please.
不过，这确实是一场精彩的表现。
But, yeah, what a performance that is.
我在通讯里提过这一点。
I made the point in the newsletter.
没错。
Yeah.
这些只是资格赛，并不是像大师赛那样的顶级赛事。
Just these are qualifying matches, not sort of they're not the masters.
你见过这样的比分。
You've seen scores like this.
这再次证明了整项赛事的整体水平。
This yet another illustration of the standard through the game.
徐徐，我常觉得他很有潜力成为下一个跻身前16的中国选手，只是稳定性还不够。
Xu Xu, I often think he looks like the next Chinese player to sort of make a step up, level up towards that top 16, but just the consistency isn't there.
但只要他状态上来，表现简直太出色了。
But when he's on it, he looks absolutely fantastic.
不过，你也提到了我之前说的那几个选手。
But, yeah, you mentioned a few of the ones I pointed out as well.
吉米64岁了，今天开场就表现得不错。
Jimmy, 64 years old, making, getting a little bit in the opening day.
而且还打出了几杆不错的得分。
And making breaks as well.
他可不是靠运气勉强撑着的。
He's not just sort of fudging him out doing it.
还有保罗·诺里斯，我们之前提过的这位59岁的新秀。
Another one, Paul Norris, who we mentioned before, the 59 year old rookie.
他跟安东尼·科瓦尔斯基打了一场激烈的对决。
He had a big old slob with Anthony Kowalski.
虽然最后以4比6输了，但你懂的，他可不是那种每场都被横扫的选手。
He lost six-four in the end, but you know, he's not gonna turn up and just get thrashed every game, if that was anyone's worry.
他确实有实力跟高手一较高下。
He does look like he's very capable of competing.
还有，我注意到另一场特别激烈的比赛，是罗斯·缪尔和迈克尔·斯帕希克之间的对决，这孩子才十五岁。
And yeah, the only other one I noticed there was a crazy game between Ross Muir and Michael Sparshik, their 15 year old.
缪尔一度以五比零领先。
Muir was five nil up.
斯帕希克后来一路追平到五比五，但最终在决胜局输了。
Sparshik got it all the way back to five five and then lost the decider.
你说，是干脆直接输个六比零痛快，还是像这样拼死拼活最后还是输掉？
So one of those, would you rather just lose six nil than do all that work just to lose anyway?
我也不确定。
I don't know.
不过那场确实挺让人难受的。
But that was a painful one.
其实还有一场类似的，利亚姆·戴维斯对阵奇尔特恩的对手，叫NASA。
There was a similar one actually where Liam Davis was four nil at tie player, Cheshire pong NASA.
NASA后来从四比零追到了五比四反超。
NASA got it all the way to five four ahead.
戴维斯追到了决胜局，结果还是输了。
Davis got back to the decider and then lost it.
所以啊，资格赛早期确实出现了好几场大起大落的比赛，我觉得十一局六胜制挺合适的，真的。
So, yeah, there seemed to be a few early doors in in the qualifiers that there's big swings, and I think the best best of 11 is a good length match, really.
新赛季一开始打这种比赛挺好的。
It's nice to start the season with them.
你这时候已经进入正题了，发现这些比赛里大逆转特别多，还出现了不少令人沮丧的失利。
You're probably into some real business there, And you get that you've got quite a lot of these big swings in these matches already and some pretty stinging defeats.
你知道吗，这些人肯定特别想重回球台，因为如果你长时间没打，会觉得休息时间太短了，对吧？
You know, these people will be excited to get back on the table because if you forget for a lot it feels like the break's very short, doesn't it?
因为我们是从世锦赛决赛的角度来看的。
Because we're thinking from the world championship final.
但其实很多选手在此之前已经很久没打比赛了。
But a lot of these guys haven't played for a long time before that.
所以他们肯定特别期待打赛季首战，结果一上来就遭遇了惨痛的失败，但这就是斯诺克啊。
So they're probably excited to get their first games of the season in, and then there's some real stinking losses straight away, but that's snooker.
是的
Yeah.
这话很有道理。
A lot of wisdom there.
你说得完全对。
You're absolutely right.
你以前几个赛季就提过这个观点，我可能到第二年就忘了，但你今天又提了一遍，确实很有见地。
You made this point in previous seasons, and it's I I I probably forget it by the next year, and I think that's a good point you made again.
不过说真的，对我们来说，赛季总感觉是在我站在舞池边指着包厢座位的时候结束的。
But, you know, our season, it always feels like, you know, when when I was on the edge of the dance floor pointing to deck seats, that that's when the sort of season ends.
但实际上，对很多业内人士，尤其是球员们来说，赛季早就结束了，那会儿还早着呢。
But, of course, it's weeks before that for many people in the game and and the most important people of all, the players.
你说得对。
You're right.
你知道，很多人根本进不了克鲁斯堡，只有少数人才能进。
You know, many of them don't make the crucible, of course, only if you do.
而且很多人在世锦赛资格赛早期就出局了。
And and and plenty of them lose early in qualifying for the world.
所以对他们来说，确实有个很长的休息期。
So, yeah, for them, it is quite a long break.
这么说再贴切不过了。
Absolutely the right way of saying it.
说起来，这个逆转的话题挺有意思的。
Well, I mean, it's interesting that that comeback thing.
我们以前也提过，我知道，但球员从大比分落后一路追平的情况实在太常见了。
We said it before, I know, but it is so sort of common that a player would come back for miles behind, get level.
那种时候，气氛完全不一样，对吧？
Then there's a different energy about it, isn't it?
接下来我们就会看到一个典型的例子，汤姆·福特对阵利亚姆·海菲尔德。
Then then the but, course, we got an example coming up here of one where it was completed, Tom Ford and and Liam Highfield.
这真是场精彩绝伦的比赛。
I mean, that is amazing field.
四比五落后，决胜局还以53分的巨大分差落后。
Four, five nil down, and also down quite considerably, 53 points down in the decider.
我本来想跟你聊聊，其实我不太想给利亚姆·海菲尔德打电话。
And I was gonna do a little line with you about I don't I don't fancy giving Liam Highfield a call.
咱们换一个故事吧。
Well, we'll go on to another story.
还有个让我印象深刻的事，下一轮资格赛，我们待会儿再说，但福特和海菲尔德这场真是绝了。
You know, another sting to me, the next round of qualifying, we'll come on to that, but that that Ford Highfield was something else.
宾汉姆和布拉塞尔那场，两位前世界冠军，根本没这么戏剧性。
Nothing like it in terms of drama in the Bingham and Bracel match, two former world champions.
斯图尔特以六比零横扫，还打了三个单杆五十以上。
Six nil for Stewart there with three half centuries.
侯赛因·瓦菲比和大卫·利利，六比一。
Hussein Vafibi, David Lilly, six one.
侯赛因打出了126和132两杆。
One two six and a one three two in there from Hussein.
安东尼·麦吉尔，我得说，我总是希望他能打得好。
Anthony McGill, who I must admit, I I always like to see do well.
说实话，以他的实力，我觉得他发挥得还不够好。
I don't think he does well enough in a way when you think how good he is.
他以6比2赢了乔·奥康纳。
He beat Joe O'Connor six two.
诺蓬·西安以6比1击败了埃利奥特·斯莱索尔。
Nopon Sian can beat Elliott Slessor six one.
杰克逊·佩奇赢球时表现不错，比分是6比3。
Good scoring from Jackson Page in beating one six three.
佩奇打出了107、123、63和64分的单杆。
Breaks of one zero seven, one two three, sixty three and sixty four from Page.
张安达以6比4战胜了丹尼尔·韦尔斯。
Zhang Ander beat Daniel Wells, six four.
马特·塞尔比以6比5战胜了阿里·卡特。
Matt Selby, Ali Carter, six five.
这两位老将打得真是没精打采的，虽然他们在这行也混了不少年了。
Real old slop between those two who've been around for reverend a day, of course.
不过，那条线的位置是往前推、偏高的。
But, I mean, the line there is is forward and high field.
我记得菲尔·叶茨以前说过一回，说得特别到位，虽然我记不清他原话是怎么讲的了，但你知道的，三比零赢七局，单杆一百四十三，这种事儿其实挺常见的。
I remember Phil Yates once describing it very well in the I I won't get the words he said or the way the the very good way he would have said it, but, you know, three nil best of sevens and one four three are relatively commonplace.
至于四比零、五比四这种比分，就没那么频繁了，偶尔才见一回。
Then then the sort of four nil, five four, not so much we get a few of them.
这种五比零、六比五的比分，简直就像亨尼的牙齿一样稀罕。
This is a bit like Hennes Teeth, this five nil, six five.
我记得大师赛上确实出现过几次，但对海菲尔德来说，这可真是个难堪的比分。
It's I think it's I remember it's happened a couple of times with the masters actually, but that's a horrible one for Highfield.
是啊。
Yeah.
去年英国锦标赛资格赛就有过一回，唐纳森从五比零落后连扳六局，最终以六比五逆转了宾汉姆。
There was one it was that big one in The UK qualifiers last year where Donaldson beat Bingham six five from five nil,
他
and he
赛后他和罗布进行了一次非常动情的采访。
had that very emotional interview with Rob afterwards.
不过，这种情况确实很少见。我没看那场比赛，但从比分来看，好像福特突然找到了状态。
But, yeah, they are very rare, and it looked like I didn't watch the game, but from the scoring, it looked like maybe Ford just freed up.
因为从五比零追到连赢两局，这确实不容易。
Because at five nil, made it back to back tons, which is Yeah.
他打得特别流畅。
He just free flowing.
但正如你所说，这对海菲尔德来说简直是噩梦，因为看起来他开局打得特别好。
But as you say, mean, it it was it was a nightmare for Highfield because it looked like he'd started brilliantly.
我觉得他第一轮以六比二赢了弗洛里安·努斯勒，然后又以六比一击败了麦圭尔，那可是海菲尔德的一大胜利。
I think he beat he beat Florian Nusler six two, I think, the first round, then beat Maguire six one, which a great win for Highfield.
结果却以那样的方式输掉，当时比分来到五比四，他肯定觉得，这可能是他夺冠的最佳机会。
And then to lose like that, I mean, at five nearly, he would have been thinking, this could be my year.
现在他可能开始怀疑自己了。
And now he may be well be questioning that.
不过得给汤姆·福特点个赞，说实话，坚韧不拔、顽强拼搏这些特质，本来也不是大家对他最深的印象。
But, yeah, well done to Tom Ford though, because I don't know, like digging in and resilience isn't necessarily what he's known for.
如果让你挑人，他肯定排不到前列，但他这次确实打出了一场精彩的胜利。
He wouldn't be top of the list of people you think of if you were thinking of those traits, but he's pulled off a fantastic victory there.
我还注意到诺蓬以6比1大胜莱斯纳，表现非常出色。
One that I noticed was Knop on great win against Lesnar six one.
诺蓬，我不太清楚他上个赛季怎么了，状态跌到了谷底。
Nopon, I don't know what happened to him last season, he had a real bad one.
他几乎没什么像样的发挥，但我们都清楚他有多强。
He didn't do anything really, and we know how good a player is.
所以这个赛季他有个不错的开局，挺让人欣慰的。
So that's the encouraging start to this season for him.
另外，其他比赛也没太多意外发生。
And yeah, the other one's not too many shocks elsewhere.
我看了宾汉姆对布拉塞尔的比赛，那天对卢卡来说简直是灾难。
I watched a bit of Bingham against Bracel, and that was just a shocker of a day for Luca.
他本身发挥得也不算好，但感觉他碰什么什么就出错。
It just He nothing's going wasn't playing great, but it just seemed like everything he touched was going wrong.
输给斯塔特已经够丢脸了，可谁也没想到会是0比6，这真是卢卡职业生涯中最糟糕的一天。
I mean, losing to Stuart's now disgrace, but you wouldn't expect a six nil, but that was just a day to forget for the Bullet.
是的。
Yeah.
我在想，卢卡什么时候才能重新找回状态呢？
Was thinking to myself, you know, when will Luca come good again?
我觉得他一定会的。
And I think he will.
我并不是说他还能回到当年那种巅峰水平。
I'm not saying he'll get to the very, very heights again like he did.
那种高度可能很难预测，但他实力太强、天赋太高了，不可能一直沉寂下去。
That that might be something that's a bit difficult to predict, but he's just too good, too talented, I think, not to sort of fire again.
因为他之后还曾在一两个关键比赛中证明过自己，只是我们有点忘了。
Because he he's done it in one or two subsequent crucibles again as well, which we kinda forget.
那些时候他明明状态一般，却表现得特别出色。
He'd been brilliant out of nothing in those.
所以也许他只是需要一个更大的舞台来发挥出真正的水平。
So maybe he just needs that big big stage to to shine.
但当然，这不全靠大舞台，尤其是现在他的排名已经下滑了。
But, of course, it's not all about big stages, especially now with him being further down the rankings.
所以，我希望他能重新找回状态，毕竟一个出色的卢克对这项运动来说是好事。
So, yeah, I just hope it comes because, know, a good Luke who is is good for the sport.
他真的是个让人热血沸腾的选手，对吧？
He he's an absolute thrilling guy, isn't he?
说实话，菲尔。
Let's be honest, Phil.
我的意思是，他就是这么让人激动，你知道的。
I mean, you know, he's just he's just so exciting, you know.
这又是接下来的一个关键考验。
And it's one of the subsequent crucibles.
我记得他打朱德的时候，我正好在场，那时候我就觉得，没人能像他那样打卢卡。
I think when he played Judd, I was in there for one of those sessions thinking, in a way, no one plays Luca like him.
他就是这么充满激情，无所畏惧，你就是会喜欢这样的球员。
You know, he's just so exciting and devil may care, and, you know, you just want those guys.
但我想，这正是卢卡的风格所在。
But I guess that's the thing with the package with Luca.
你总会看到他那种特立独行的一面。
You know, you get that maverick side.
你不可能只享受他作为精彩球员的全部魅力，却忽略他那些夜生活和疯狂的另一面。
We, you know, we can't just have all the goodness of him being a sort of thrilling character without his sort of, you know, nightlife and sort of the mad elements as well.
或许，正是这些才让他如此令人着迷。
That's what makes him such a thrilling character, I guess.
是的。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
那场对Trilogy的比赛，我到现在想起来都特别怀念。
That, I've got such fond memories of the game against Trilogy.
那场比赛真的太精彩了。
It was such a good game.
我当时在图多尔广场外看的，热得不行。
I was watching that out in bit of that out in Tudor Square, it was boiling hot.
现场人山人海。
It was just packed.
那气氛简直太棒了。
The atmosphere out there was so good.
不过，我想这也就是他的风格了。
But, yeah, I suppose this is the nature of him.
他就是那种状态起伏很大的球员。
He's gonna be a streaky player.
他偶尔会有一两周状态爆棚，无人能挡，但接下来又会消失一阵子。
He'll just have the odd week where he's untouchable, then you won't see him for a while.
我们其实不太清楚的是，他一直提到自己有个健康问题，但从来没详细说过具体是什么。
I suppose we what we don't really know is, you know, he's spoken about this health issue he's been dealing with for quite a while now, and he hasn't gone into too much detail about it.
我们完全不知道这个问题对他有多大影响。
We just don't know how much that is affecting him.
现在他好像又开始频繁参赛了，没耽误他出席比赛，但之前他半开玩笑似的描述时，听起来这问题挺严重的。
And he seems to be playing quite regularly again, so it's not stopping him from turning up at tournaments, but it sounded like it was quite debilitating the way he was sort of half describing it before.
希望我们能弄清楚那到底是什么，或者现在怎么样了。不过，没错，我完全同意。
So hopefully we'll find out what that was or is still at But some yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
我们越常看到他打球，就越觉得好。
The more we see of him, the better.
他状态好的时候，那真是没得说。
When he's playing well, he's yeah.
他打起来简直像炸药一样，对吧？
It's dynamite, isn't he?
是的
Yeah.
我们希望他能好起来。
We hope he's better.
是。
Are.
其实我们该早点去问问卢卡的情况。
We should perhaps check up with Luca sooner on that one, actually.
好吧，菲尔，在接下来的八场比赛结果中，香槟赢了六场，杰克·利索夫斯基赢了一场。
Well, Phil, in the next set of eight results then, Champagne used six Jack Lisowski one.
我的意思是，香槟每局都打出了单杆50以上，包括他输掉的那局，最后他还以133比2结束了比赛。
I mean, Champ made a half century in every frame there, including the opener that he lost, and he and he finished with a one three three two.
很多人说他这个赛季会成为顶尖选手，我们目前看到的一切，都支持这个看法。
So and a lot of people say he's gonna be a top performer this season, you know, nothing that we're seeing, you know, there is is stopping that thought.
姚鹏程，六分。
Yao Peng Cheng, six.
黑贵矿，两分。
Hei Gui Kuang, two.
是陆红玉，六分。
It was Lu Hongyu, six.
尤利安·博伊科，零分，陆洪宇打出了三个半世纪。
Yulian Boyko, nil, three half centuries from Lu.
戴夫·吉尔伯特，六分。
Dave Gilbert, six.
祖萨，两分。
Zusa, two.
也许这就是你提到的苏的不稳定表现。
Maybe that inconsistency you talk about from Sue there.
你那边可是被完爆了。
You got, you know, well beaten there.
肖玉龙，六分。
Xiao Yu Long, six.
陈瑞瑞福，三分。
Chen Rui Rui Fu, three.
至于亚伦·希尔和加里·威尔逊那场，真是精彩到爆。
Well, Aaron Hill, Gary Wilson was an absolute thriller.
我注意到，我们一些在爱尔兰斯诺克媒体圈的朋友都说，这场胜利对亚伦新赛季开局太关键了。
I noticed some friends and colleagues of ours in the Irish snooker media really saying that was a big one to get Aaron off to a good start for the season.
决胜局他打出单杆86分，拿下了这场比赛。
86 on the decider from him to win that match.
庞俊旭，六分。
Pang Jong Su, six.
房西西，四分。
Fang Xianxi, four.
还有江俊，六分。
And Jiang Jun, six.
吉米·罗伯逊，四分。
Jimmy Robertson, four.
所以，确实有不少话题可聊。
So, yeah, plenty to talk about there.
听上去你好像觉得他节奏不错，但说实话，他也没怎么发力。
I mean, sounds like you got a pacing, but, you know, he doesn't really didn't seem to do much.
关键是，常的得分太漂亮了。
I mean, know, he just wonderful scoring from from Chang.
那场希爾對威爾森的比賽，我真想再看一遍。
And, yeah, that that Hill and Wilson, I wouldn't mind seeing that.
那场比赛看起来确实非常精彩。
Actually, that that looked read that sounded like a a really good match.
亚伦·希爾正在稳步进步。
Aaron Hill is getting there slowly but surely.
他希望这个赛季，能更多地体现‘稳步’，少一点‘缓慢’。
He'll hope this season it's more of a the surely and the slowly, Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
我觉得上个赛季他本该以失望收场，因为他在审判日又碰上了吉尔伯特，而前一年他本该赢的那场是10比9，这次他输得更干脆。
Well, I think last season he would have ended disappointingly because he had the he played Gilbert again in on Judgment Day, and it had been that ten nine where he should have won really the year before, and he lost more comfortably this time.
但尽管如此，这确实是进步。
But despite that, it was definitely progress.
他打出了两个147分。
He made those two one four sevens.
他的排名上升了，我觉得他还在持续进步。
He moved up the rankings, and I think he is still continuing to progress.
这是一场很棒的胜利。
And that's a great win.
是的。
Yeah.
那场比赛中，他一度以0比4落后于加里·威尔逊。
He was four nil down to Gary Wilson in that match.
但从那里连赢六局以6比5逆转，真的很了不起，毕竟大家都知道加里有多强。
So to win six five from there It's very impressive against, you know, we know how good Gary is.
但 Chang 似乎非常笃定，他会继续往上爬排名，而且感觉这可能会很快发生。
And yet, Chang, like, he just he seems very sure that he'll he's gonna he's gonna continue up the rankings, but it feels like it could be very quickly.
你知道的，只要他状态上来，这个赛季进入前16应该没问题，甚至可能在赛季前半段就做到了。
You know, he could be pushing the top 16 certainly this season, and maybe even the first half of this season if he just gets on a run.
是的。
Yeah.
他真的非常出色。
He's just very, very impressive.
姚成臣是个挺有意思的例子。
Yao Cheng Chen was an interesting one there.
他上个赛季才刚加入职业巡回赛。
He only came on tour last season.
他年纪不算小，但也不算特别年轻。
He's not he's young, but he's not really, really young.
我觉得他今年29岁。
I think he's 29.
他开局有点慢。
And he had a slow start.
一开始看起来没什么起色，但整个赛季他一直在进步。
He didn't look like he was doing much, but he did progress over the season.
他逐渐开始稳定地拿成绩了。
He started picking up results more and more regularly.
我对他的了解不多，但那三场胜利确实很厉害。
I don't know loads about him, but those three wins there, impressive.
他赢了里安，赢了特普·查亚，还赢了 ergo 关。
He beat he beat Rian, and he beat Tep Chaya, he beat Ergo Guan.
这三场硬仗帮他打进了中国公开赛，看来他正慢慢适应巡回赛的节奏。
So that's three good wins to get to the China Open there, and he may well just be settling into tour quite nicely.
还有张志忠，也是个值得关注的选手。
And Zhang Zhijong was the other one.
他那三场胜利都非常出色。
Three very impressive wins there.
他先赢了加拿大选手萨希尔·纳亚尔，然后以6比4击败了吉米·罗伯森，接着又以6比3战胜了赵杰克。
Beat Jimmy Roberson six four after beating Sahil Nayar, the Canadian player at the start, but then beat Jack Zhao in six three.
张志聪是个挺值得一看的选手。
So Zhang Zhijong is he's an interesting player to watch.
他动作挺慢的，但更让人觉得他特别紧张。
He's quite sort of slow, but it's more that he he looks really anxious.
他老是站起来又坐下，频繁地回椅子上休息。
He sort of gets up and down a lot, goes back to his chair a lot.
他显得有点坐立不安，但他才20岁，我觉得实力真的不错。
He's quite sort of fidgety, but he's only 20, and I think he he is really good.
他赢过好几位顶尖选手，这个赛季绝对值得关注，开局已经非常出色了。
He's got some wins over some great players, so he he should be he's gonna be one to watch this season, and that's a that's a very good start for him.
确实，像你刚才说的，他拿了不少成绩。
Well, a pretty lot of results there, absolutely, as you you you outlined.
还有，菲尔，你刚才提到武汉公开赛资格赛里出现的一些问题和结果。
And, Phil, you were mentioning a couple of of issues and results that we've seen from from Wuhan Open qualifying.
那我把视频打印图给你吧。
So I'm gonna let you have the video print chart.
我们每次不都得为这个争一争吗？
You know, we we always have to do a bit of arm wrestle for it, don't we?
不用。
No.
真不用。
We don't.
其实是我自己被它搞得有点晕，我才是那个被它困扰的人。
You know, I'm the one that's sort suss I'm the one that's sort sussed by it.
不过今天你拿去吧。
But you can have it today.
对了，Phil，得提一下Steve Hallworth，他虽然以解说闻名，但首先是个球员。
We should say, Phil, that, a man, you know, that's become very well known for the commentating aside, but as he will say, first and foremost a player, Steve Hallworth.
他以5比0击败了新任女子世界冠军潘查亚·钱诺伊。
He beat the new women's world champion Panchaya Channoy five nil.
这是今天的比赛结果。
This is today's results.
我们不是选在周一晚上吗？
We're picking on a Monday night, aren't we?
实际上，刚说完比利时，接着是埃及。
Actually, saying just after Belgium, Egypt.
爱尔兰选手莱昂·克劳利以5比2击败了刘阳，这也是我注意到的一场比赛。
Irishman Leon Crowley beat Liu Yang five two, another result that I noticed.
我之前提过利亚姆·海菲尔德的状态。
And then, well, I mentioned Liam Highfield's mood.
菲爾，他的心情肯定没好到哪去，他對陣龔正子，結果以5比4落敗，龔正子在決勝局打出單桿101分。
Well, it won't have been improved, Phil, because he was swinging up against Gong Zhengzi, but lost five four, a break of one zero one from Gong and the decider.
在我们开播前不久，还有一场比赛，米切尔·曼上演了逆转。
And another match that happened not that long before we came on the air, actually, Mitchell Mann, he had a good comeback.
他从2比4落后的情况下连赢三局，最终以5比4击败了朱利安·博伊科。
He came back from four two down to beat Julian Boyko five four.
所以你今天可能也注意到了一些其他结果，不妨跟我们聊聊这个周一晚上的比赛动态。
So you may have spotted some more results today, and then you can tell us what's happening on this Monday night of action.
是的。
Yeah.
今天早上我看了史蒂夫·霍沃思对阵潘恰亚特的比赛。
I watched I watched some of Steve Haworth against Panchayat this morning.
那场是在WST平台第一张球台进行的，待会儿我们会提到，因为那是他们新推出的解说服务。
That was the table one game on WST play, which we'll we'll mention in a sec because that's a new commentary service.
不过说实话，她打得挺吃力的，我都在想她现在心情得多糟。
But, yeah, I mean, she struggled, but I was thinking how mad it must have been for her or is at the minute.
谁也没料到她能赢下女子世锦赛。
She was not expected to win that women's world championship.
她自己或许觉得有希望，但突然拿到一张外卡，这谁受得了。
I'm sure she was enough to think she could, but to then get a court card.
现在她算是基本转战其他赛事了，毕竟接下来还有这么多比赛，锦标赛联赛，还有各种资格赛接二连三。
And now she's moved over, I guess she's moved over it at least sort of semi permanently because she's got these games and then the championship league and there's loads of other qualifiers here.
但她只是个十几岁的孩子，就这么搬过来，去莱斯特、谢菲尔德，或者她去的任何地方，这可是她人生中巨大的转变。
But, you know, she's only a teenager just to sort of up sticks and move over here to Leicester or Sheffield or wherever she's gone and just, you know, it's just a huge change in her life.
所以，她那场没发挥出最佳状态，但最近确实经历了不少事。
So, yeah, she didn't show her best there, but she's got a lot to go through recently.
我相信她一定会进步的。
I'm sure she'll improve.
是的。
Yeah.
我注意到的几件事里，有一件是乌克兰选手米哈伊尔·拉尔科夫首次在巡回赛中获胜。
The one or two things I picked out was first win on tour for Michael Larkov, the Ukrainian who came through.
他之前不是赢过WSF青少年赛吗？
Did he win the WSF junior?
他才十七岁。
It's only 17.
他赢了安东尼·克瓦尔斯基，这可是个了不起的胜利。
He beat Antony Kvarsky, so that's very good win.
我看了利亚姆·戴维斯对利亚姆·普伦的比赛，但没那么悬殊。
I watched Liam Davis against Liam Pullen, not quite like that.
两个都很出色的年轻选手。
Two great young players.
其实他们之间的差距没那么大。
It just shows that there's not loads between them.
普伦上个赛季靠着一连串资格赛的出色表现收官，科舒夫则是首次登台；而戴维斯则是赛季末跌出了巡回赛。
And so Liam Pullen ended last season with that amazing run through qualifying and Koushov will debut, whereas Liam Davis ended the season dropping off tour.
但新赛季一开始，他们就碰上了，戴维斯以5比3赢了。
But then they play right at the start of the year, and Davis wins five three.
说到底，两人水平真没差多少，只是上个赛季结束时，他们的状态差距看起来特别大。
So there's not loads between them, really, but it would have felt an awful lot between them at the end of last season, the way they ended.
但我还是觉得利亚姆·戴维斯非常厉害。
But still think Liam Davis is very good.
我觉得他前途无量，普伦也一样，只是最近戴维斯表现得更突出一些。
I think he's got a very bright future, and obviously Pullen has as well, but he's just shown it more recently.
刚出炉的最新消息。
And then just hot off the press.
是的。
Yeah.
江军又赢了一场，表现不错。
Another good win for Jiangjun.
说到他，他以5比3击败了吉米·怀特。
Talking about him, he beat Jimmy White five three.
目前就剩一场比赛还在进行，是一场精彩的首轮对决。
I think there's only one game going on as we speak, which is a great first rounder.
萨姆·克雷格对朱利安·勒克莱尔。
Sam Craig against Julian Leclerc.
现在比分是4比3，克雷格领先，比赛还在继续。
And it's four three to Craig here at the minute, so it's still going on.
刚结束的比赛，本·默顿以5比1战胜了阿什利·哈格尔，路易斯·希科特以5比1击败了保罗·诺里斯，菲尔·奥凯恩也拿到了巡回赛首胜，他以5比3战胜了查查蓬·内瑟。
We've just had Ben Merton beat Ashley Hugle five one, Louis Heathcote being Paul Norris five one, and a first win on tour for Phil O'Cain, who's beat Chachapong Nesser five three.
给Phil点赞，干得漂亮。
So well done to Phil.
听说你在中国公开赛第一轮就出局了，但能拿到职业生涯首胜，已经很不错了。
Is he think you went out first round in China Open, but good to get a first win on the board there.
这可是个特别早的首胜啊。
It's a very early first win.
是的。
Yeah.
很多新上巡回赛的选手，要等很久才能赢第一场，所以这已经很了不起了。
Plenty of guys new on tour take an awful lot longer than that, so that yeah.
真该给他鼓掌。
Hats off.
太棒了。
That's terrific stuff.
武汉公开赛的资格赛这周还会继续进行。
And that that Wuhan Open qualifying will continue throughout the week.
正如你所说，可以去snooker.org上看WST提供的最新赛果，那个网站一直都很棒。
As you say, like, what WST play with the latest scores on the ever excellent snooker.org.
Phil，我知道你还想多说几句关于WST的事？
And, Phil, I know you you you wanna say a bit more about WST?
你刚才提到了这一点。
You flagged that up.
是的。
Yeah.
那确实不错。
That was good.
对。
Yeah.
有解说真是挺好的。
Just nice to have commentary.
我的意思是，有解说本来就是理所当然的事。
You know, mean, yeah, that was a given really.
我们以前看比赛的时候，习惯了默默盯着直播，现在有这些解说员在旁边聊着，感觉整个人都轻松多了，也不会错过场上的任何细节。
Like, we watched a lot of got used to watching a lot of streamed matches just in silence, and it's just nice to have those guys for company flitting around from the table, so you less like to miss anything that's going on over there.
我听到过几次迈克尔·戴伊的解说。
Michael Day, I heard a couple of times.
上周日最后一天我特别留意了他，表现真的很棒。
I was definitely listening to him on the last day of the Sunday, but he was great.
他还在推特上给我发消息，说一开始有点紧张。
He messaged me on Twitter just saying he a was bit a bit nervous.
他刚开始的时候有点放不开，但慢慢就找到了状态。
He took a bit getting into it.
我不太记得这周早些时候有没有听过他，但等我真正注意到他的时候，感觉已经非常出色了。
I'm not sure I heard him earlier in the week, but by the time I did hear him, he sounded great to me.
所以，给他点个赞，干得漂亮。
So, yeah, well done to him.
当然了，有解说确实让观赛体验提升了不少，我觉得他们做得相当不错。
And, yeah, he goes without saying that it's improved by having commentary on, and I thought they did a good job.
是的
Yep.
太棒了
Great stuff.
这项服务会贯穿整个赛季，尤其是本周，因为武汉公开赛的资格赛还在继续。
And that service will continue throughout the season, and it certainly will, of course, first and foremost this week as Wuhan Open qualifying continues.
另外，菲尔，我们还得提一下，冠军联赛将在莱斯特开赛。
Phil, we should say as well, the championship league begins in Leicester.
下周一，那里将成为这项赛事的新主场。
That's the new home of the game next Monday.
菲尔，冠军联赛的集数比《诺特庄园》还多。
Phil, there are more episodes of the championship league than there was Knott's Landing.
这可是给年轻人准备的彩蛋。
That's that's one for the teenagers.
《诺特庄园》。
Knott's Landing.
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我不清楚他们是从哪部老电视剧里挖出这个说法的。
I don't know where they got that one from, an old TV show.
菲尔，下周有不少实力派斯诺克选手登场。
Phil, there's quite a few handy snooker players in action next week.
下周一凯伦·威尔逊出场，周二马克·威廉姆斯上场，之后一整周还有更多顶尖选手陆续亮相。
Kyren Wilson next Monday, Mark Williams next Tuesday, and then plenty more top top players as the week continues.
像加里·威尔逊、安东尼·麦克吉尔、戴夫·吉尔伯特、泰德·特洛伊，这些选手都会参赛。
The likes of Gary Wilson, Anthony McGill, Dave Gilbert, Ted Troy, and no one among those in action.
所以锦标赛正式开赛了。
So the championship is getting underway.
我们常说，这比赛开局慢热，但我个人还挺喜欢的。
As we always say, a bit of a slow burner, but I I quite like this one.
年初那几场，说实话，我真有点提不起劲来。
The the one in the one in the early months of the year, yeah, I I struggle with it quite quite a lot more, I'm honest.
但这场我就懂了，挺轻松的，我就喜欢这种轻松的赛事。
But this one, I I get it, you know, it's it's easy, you know, and I I I like easy sport.
我知道发生了什么。
I know what's happening.
每天发生什么我都知道。
I know what's going on every day.
这个赛制挺不错的。
It's a nice format.
每个人都能轮到一点表现的机会。
Everyone gets a little sort of their turn if you like.
比赛的 stakes 挺高的。
It's relatively high stakes.
这是个排名赛， stakes 自然很高，比以前高多了。
It's a it's a ranking event, so it is high stakes, much higher stakes than it used to be.
而且说实话，我觉得这个赛制设计得挺巧妙的，一步步推进得很自然。
And yeah, just, yeah, I think it's quite a clever format actually, the way it sort of develops and goes on.
所以我一直很喜欢这个安排。
So always enjoy that.
而且，这项赛事会一直持续到世界杯快结束的时候。
And, yeah, it'll it'll go it'll go on till nearly the end of the World Cup.
我本来以为这次世界杯已经够长了，但这项赛事一旦开赛，时长几乎能跟它媲美。
I would have thought the World Cup's an absolute monster this time, but this will this will almost match it in length when it gets going.
是的，我觉得说得对。
Yeah, think that's right.
没错，确实如此。
Yeah, yeah.
不过我喜欢这个设计，它为所有参与者提供了绝佳的机会。
No, I like the idea that it's a great opportunity for everyone involved.
通常来说，赢的人不会是冷门选手，但很多时候感觉谁都有可能夺冠。
Usually you get, you know, it's not a rank outsider who wins it, but it feels like anyone could win it a lot of the time.
我刚看了下，参赛的有五位世界前16的选手，比如苏肇伟、克里斯·瓦克林、凯伦·威尔逊、马克·威廉姆斯，还有肖国栋。
Yeah, I think there's five top 16 players I was looking through, Su Zhao Wei, Chris Wakelin, Kyren Wilson, Mark Williams, and Xiao Zing Tong's in it.
而且
And
还有几位紧随其后的选手，比如张安达、利索夫斯基、凯撒、宾汉姆和肖国栋。
then there's the handful of players just outside, Zhang Ander, Lisowski, Cesar, Bingham, Xiao Yi Long.
所以没错，这些全是大牌选手，但里面还有很多实力很强的球员。
So yeah, they're all the big names, but there's plenty of very good players in there.
我上周采访了斯蒂芬·霍沃思，那时候还没看到抽签结果。
And I was speaking to Stephen Haworth that I interviewed him last week, and I hadn't seen the draw then.
他说，马克·威廉姆斯最后还是决定参赛了。
And he was like, yeah, but Mark Williams, he decided to turn up.
他现在状态正佳，如果你抽到这些顶尖选手，可能会觉得有点倒霉，毕竟不是所有人都会全力出战。
So he's in his groove, I think you would feel a bit aggrieved if you get one of the very top players because not that, they don't all play.
所以他看到这个结果，应该有点失望。
So I think he was a bit disappointed to see that.
不过，我还是很期待这场比赛。
But yeah, no, I'm looking forward to that.
我明白你的意思。
Yeah, I know what you mean.
这个安排很合理，机会也特别好。
This one just makes sense and the opportunity is great.
但关于邀请赛，有两点你根本没法这么说。
And there there are two things you wouldn't say about the invitational one.
它很难跟进，机会也少，因为不是每个人都能参加。
Like, it's much harder to follow and the opportunity isn't there because not everyone does get to play it.
感觉更像是顶尖选手拿钱练手，没什么别的意思。
And it just seems more like sort of top players getting paid practice more than anything.
不过这个比赛，我确实特别喜欢，尤其是在夏天。
But but, yeah, this one, I do enjoy over the summer.
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
说实话，我觉得另一个比赛有点让人糊涂，这个就很好。
I find the other one a bit confusing really, to be honest, this is this is very good.
我们很期待，下周一就要开赛了，冠军联赛。
We look forward to it, and that's underway next Monday, The championship league.
这段时间比赛真多啊，菲尔，虽然现在才六月，但赛季算是正式开始了。
So quite a lot of action going on, Phil, which is, it's it's June, but it's a it's a a start to the season.
通往谢菲尔德下一届世锦赛的漫长征程已经启动，中国的资格赛也全部结束了。
The long journey towards, the next world championship in Sheffield is underway, and we've had all the China qualifying.
武汉的资格赛正在进行，这周接下来几天还有更多比赛等着呢。
Wuhan qualifying is underway and plenty more to come, over over the days in this week.
菲尔，我们收到了不少来信，对吧？
Phil, we got correspondence, haven't we?
这期节目我们也打算聊一聊这些来信。
That's also, something we're gonna do this episode.
我们想听听你的看法。
We're gonna turn to your views.
这期节目打算分成两部分：前半段讲台上的比赛，后半段聊来信。
So it's meant to be a sort of tale of two halves, the action on the table in the first half and the correspondence in the second.
现在您收听的是《斯诺克闲谈》播客，主持人是菲尔·海格和尼克·梅特卡夫。
And we'll say now that you are listening to the Talking Snooker podcast with Phil Hague and Nick Metcalf.
如果市场是个朋友，那它肯定是那个不停地发消息、不断更新看法的人。
If the markets were a friend, they'd be the one who texts constantly, constantly, updates opinions.
你看到这个了吗？
Did you see this?
整天，天天如此。
All day, every day.
Capital.com 并不是这条消息链里的又一个声音。
Capital.com isn't another voice in that thread.
它更像是消息之间的空白，把新闻、图表和经济日历整合在一起，帮你拨开喧嚣，看清全貌。
It's the space between the messages, bringing news, charts, and economic calendars into one place to give you the full picture in between the noise.
Capital.com，只为清晰而设计。
Capital.com, designed for clarity.
差价合约涉及较高风险。
CFDs involve a high level of risk.
有81.31%的散户投资者亏了钱。
Eighty one point three one percent of retail investors lose money.
大家好。
Hello, everybody.
这里是《Talking Snooker》。
It's Talking Snooker here.
Phil，我们收到了一些听众来信。
And, Phil, we have had correspondence in.
咱们来看看吧？
Let's go to it, shall we?
第一位是克雷格·马利安，他还特意发了个提醒。
And first to, Craig Mallian, who has had to send a reminder, actually.
这封信其实是在上个赛季末发来的，但那时候谢菲尔德那边乱糟糟的，容易被忽略。
This came through towards the end of last season, but amid the sort of Sheffield madness, things can get easily missed.
所以克雷格发来了一条很贴心的提醒，谢谢你，克雷格。
So Craig sends a nice reminder message, and I'm grateful to you for that, Craig.
信上说：亲爱的尼克和菲尔，你们好。
It says, dear Nick and Phil, hello.
我终于抽出时间，兑现承诺，写信聊聊我去戈斯参加约翰·维尓戈奖杯赛的经历。
I have finally found the time to write in as promised about my trip to Goth's for the John Virgo trophy.
尼克，我很幸运在那儿碰上了你。
Nick, I had the pleasure of bumping into you.
具体在哪儿我就不说了。
I won't mention exactly where.
你说的应该是场地设施吧？是不是？
Well, it was the facilities, that's what you mean, don't you?
在比赛现场，我们聊得很开心，他还让我误以为我叫你菲尔呢。
At the venue, we had a nice chat, and he even had me fooled that I'd called you Phil.
整个周末简直太棒了。
The whole weekend was an absolute delight.
周六我看了威廉姆斯对希金斯的比赛，周日一整天都待在现场，观看了威廉姆斯对亨德里的三四名争夺战，还有希金斯对奥沙利文的决赛——那场结果跟我们在克鲁斯堡亲眼见证的经典对决可大不一样。
I saw Williams v Higgins on the Saturday and was lucky enough to attend all day on the Sunday for the third fourth place playoff between Williams and Hendrie, and the final between Higgins and O'Sullivan, which produced a vastly different outcome to the classic match we all had the pleasure to witness the crucible.
以前听过那么多关于高尔夫球场举办赛事的老故事，再加上这次的阵容，我怎么能不去呢？
Having heard so many tales from yesteryear of previous tournaments held at golf's, and given the lineup, I just had to be there.
高尔夫球场完全配得上玩家们、评论员和记者们口口相传的美誉。
Golf's really lived up to its billing from all the stories I've heard from players, pundits, and journalists alike.
这地方真是绝佳的斯诺克赛场，虽然后台有些局限，但我真心希望这些问题能解决，让斯诺克能常驻这里。
It truly is just a superb venue and perfect for snooker despite the limitations backstage, which I really hope can be worked upon to see snooker return as a regular fixture.
我一会儿坐着，一会儿站着，不管在哪，看台面都特别清楚。
I alternated between seating and standing many times, and wherever I was, I had a superb view of the table.
座位也很舒服，这在我看斯诺克的经历里可不多见。
The seats were very comfy too, a rarity in my snooker going experience.
吃的喝的价格合理，啤酒尤其地道。
Food and drink was reasonably priced, and the Guinness was top notch.
喝了不少啤酒，但那周末我一个人来的，想想也就放开了。
Many pints were sunk, but I was away on my own for the weekend, so I thought, why not?
整个周末跟好多斯诺克迷聊得很开心，现场那种氛围真让人着迷。
I got chatting with many fellow snooker fans over the weekend and just loved the buzz.
工作人员也特别棒。
The staff were great crap too.
我真心希望Golf's能再次成为斯诺克的常驻场馆。
I really hope Golf's becomes a regular venue for the snooker again.
如果真能这样，我一定会再来。
I will definitely be back if it does.
这个周末最让我难忘的，是和马克·威廉姆斯、尼尔·福尔兹自拍，还有酒吧服务员免费请我喝的那杯健力士啤酒。
Particular highlights for me from the weekend will be grabbing selfies with Mark Williams and Neil Fowles, the pint of Guinness one of the barman did me on the house.
那时候我估计已经把他们的收入都喝回来了，当然还有幸亲眼看了丹尼斯·泰勒那场精彩的花式击球表演。
I think I'd more than swallowed their coffers by this point, and of course witnessing the great Dennis Taylor's trick shot cabaret.
能亲历那一刻真的非常荣幸，也见证了大家对已故的JV所表达的深情追思。
It truly was an honor to be there for that, and also to see the wonderful tributes that he and everyone else made to the late great JV.
我能说上半天，但就不多占你和听众的时间了。
I could go on and on, but I won't take up any more of your you or your listeners' time.
希望下次比赛还能见到你，尼克。
I hope to meet you again at future tournaments, Nick.
我真希望有一年能去谢菲尔德一趟。
I'd love to get up to Sheffield one year.
也许到时候你会在身边陪着菲爾。
Perhaps you may have Phil by your side.
就算没有，我也可以直接叫你菲爾。
Failing that, I could just call you Phil anyway.
向二位致敬，先生们。
I salute you both, sirs.
顺致问候，克雷格。
Kind regards, Craig.
有一阵子，接连三四个人都叫我菲爾，这感觉还挺特别的，但另一方面又有点让人哭笑不得。
There was a period where about three or four people in a row did call me Phil, which was sort of nice, but a bit the opposite of a morale boost in other in other other ways.
是的。
Yes.
说来有趣，那周末的设施其实没那么重要，关键是跟大家聊了个痛快，全是斯诺克的话题。
Well, the funny thing was about the facilities, it was a weekend of just chatting to everyone about snooker.
那时候的感觉，就像你了解谢菲尔德那边的情况一样。
It was like you know what it's like in and around Sheffield.
那个地方更小，气氛却更集中，人人都在聊斯诺克。
It was it was even more concentrated in a sort of smaller venue, and everyone was just talking snooker.
有意思的是，有次我在场地里碰见了尼尔·福尔斯，别人还跟他聊，说‘尼尔，我看过你打蓬廷斯比赛’。
Funny enough, I saw Neil Fowles at one stage and and in the facilities, and people were sort of talking, oh, Neil, I saw you playing Pontins.
我想应该是1984年的事。
I think it was about 84.
哎，那场我们打的是谁？
Oh, Who was our play?
哦，对啊。
Oh, yeah.
他确实是个好选手。
Oh, he was a good player.
当时就是这种轻松打趣的氛围。
This kind of banter was going on.
那简直太棒了。
It was brilliant.
那个周末简直就是斯诺克迷的天堂。
It was a snooker lovers heaven for the weekend.
我其实只去了两天中的一天。
I was in there for one of the two days, actually.
不过，很高兴你玩得这么开心，克雷格。
But, yeah, I'm glad you had a great time, Craig.
我记得见过你，还认识了不少来自那里的爱尔兰朋友。
I do remember meeting you, and I met met met lots of friends from there, the the Irish communities.
那真的特别棒。
That was brilliant.
有很多英格兰人，但不是英国人。
And lots of English people were no British.
其实有很多英格兰人，还有不少英国人，包括苏格兰人，都去了爱尔兰参加活动。
They I happen to be a lot of English people, but lots of Brits actually, Scots as well, went over to to Ireland for that.
那真是太棒了，你知道的。
So that was great, you know.
我记得还有几个来自埃塞克斯的人。
A few people from Essex as recall as well.
我觉得有一两个来自英格兰西南部。
I think one or two from the Southwest Of England.
他们差不多是把它当成一次朝圣，因为，嗯，和我一样，原因也差不多。
They they made that sort of almost like a pilgrimage because, yeah, I I guess like me, the same reasons for me.
我终于想亲眼看看那个场馆。
I wanted to see that venue at last.
那里和J.V.有那么多关联，还有那些明星都在那儿打过球。
There was the the the the connections to JV and just, you know, all those stars playing there.
但说实话，对我来说，最主要还是那个场馆。
But for me, it was mostly the venue, I must admit.
我就想亲眼看看那个高尔夫球场，早就听说了。
I just wanted to see golfs, heard all about it.
那地方挺有意思的，说是在米纳荒郊野外吧，其实就在基尔代尔那儿。
Funny old place sort of in Minna Nowhere in a way, but, you know, in in Kildare there.
不过那段时间过得很愉快。
But, yeah, a nice time.
我特别喜欢去都柏林，还有周边那些可爱的小城镇和酒吧。
Enjoyed my little trips to Dublin, all the little lovely little towns and pubs around around the area.
每个人都很热情，我真的很享受那段时光。
Great welcome from everybody and thoroughly enjoyed it.
是啊，确实如此。
And, yeah, it's yeah.
我们都知道，后台那些事儿以前就聊过好多遍了。
We know we've we've been through it all before, you know, about the backstage thing.
没错。
Right.
你跟不同的人聊，听到的说法还真都不一样。
I do say, you do hear different views depending on who you talk to.
有些人说，根本不可能。
You hear some people say, no, there's absolutely no way whatsoever.
真的不行，你知道的，没有练习桌，也没足够空间给解说员或者工作人员。
There's just not if you, you know, there's no practice table facilities, there's not enough room for commentators or, you know, staff.
但也有其他人说，现在场地上有酒店了。
But you hear other people say, there's a hotel on-site now.
那儿可以放练习桌。
You'd have practice tables there.
所以听到的说法确实不一样。
So you do hear different things.
不过有一件事是肯定的，那张主赛桌周围挤满观众的场面，真是无价之宝。
However, one thing is for sure, the actual main match table with that crowd around is is a priceless scene.
非常感谢你，克雷格，提醒了我，也提醒了所有当时在场的人。
And, thank you very much indeed, Craig, for for reminding me and everyone else that was there of that.
很高兴听到你的消息。
And, yeah, good good to hear from you.
所以你从来没人叫过你尼克，对吧？
And, yeah, so you'd never been called Nick, have you?
我知道你确实没被这么叫过。
I know you haven't.
我觉得你太有辨识度了。
You're too distinctive, I think.
对。
Yeah.
这确实有帮助。
That just helps.
我一直长这样。
I've had looked like this.
这在某些时候确实帮了忙。
It just helped for some things.
对。
Yeah.
没有。
No.
我不这么认为。
I don't think so.
说实话，我特别羡慕你去打高尔夫的那次旅行，所以我觉得我迟早也得去一趟。
You know, I was very jealous of your trip to golf, so I think I'll have to do that at some point.
就算没有职业巡回赛，老年组和900系列不是早就在那里站稳脚跟了吗？
And even if there's not a main tour, know, the seniors and the 900 have been quite well established there for a while now, haven't they?
所以那里肯定会有斯诺克比赛，哪怕不是正式巡回赛。
So there definitely will be some snooker there, even if it's not a main tour event.
说实话，那地方简直太适合了，对吧？
To be honest, it looked perfect for that, didn't it?
你知道的，那种配置才是最理想的。
You know, that was the ideal setup.
我们当时就那几位选手，还有他们安排的赛程。
We got those handful of players and what lineup they got there.
这再合适不过了。
It's ideal.
我是看电视上看的。
I mean, I just watch it on the telly.
罗尼和亨德里克出场的那一刻特别令人难忘。
Those walk ons for Ronnie and Hendrick were very memorable.
所以，如果有机会的话，我迟早也会去一趟。这种四人赛的安排确实很理想，主巡回赛上可没这种形式，对吧？
So yeah, I'll be making that trip at some point if I can, but yeah, it ideal for sort of that kind of setup, a four man event, which you're not gonna get on a main tour, are you?
能在别处看到这样的比赛真好。
So good to have that elsewhere.
你去看过丹尼斯的卡车杂耍表演吗？
Were you there for Dennis' trick truck cabaret?
没有，那场是周日的。
No, that was on the Sunday.
我没去，根本没去。
I wasn't, I wasn't.
听说过一些关于它的事。
Heard things about it.
我的意思是，我之前看过丹尼斯好多次花式击球表演，所以按我以前看过的那些，这次应该也差不了多少，不过他确实打得太精彩了。
I mean, sounds sort of like I've been, you know, I've seen Dennis do lots of trick shot shows before, so I imagine with the shows I've seen before, it would have been a sort of, I wouldn't have missed much in that sense, you know, But he he does so so brilliantly.
我好像在电视上看过一两个那段的片段。
I think I saw one or two clips on on the on the on the the telly of that actually.
没亲眼看过现场，但后来好像看过一些回放的片段。
Didn't see it live, but I think I saw some clips after of it.
那我有没有机会跟丹尼斯聊过天？
And, yeah, did I have a chance to speak with Dennis?
我想在电台斯诺克节目里简短地见过他，那时候他还特意跟我提，说我们有多想念约翰，还开玩笑问：‘球杆球去哪儿了？’
Think I did very briefly on my radio snooker service, and he was making a point to me then how much we'd we'd we'd we'd missed John, and he might be the one to say, where's the cue ball going?
我觉得他确实说过好几次这样的话。
Which I think he did a couple of times.
我觉得他一开始的时候就说过。
I think he did early on.
其实那真是个特别感人的时刻，菲爾，你還記得嗎？在紀念約翰的儀式上，他深情地望著家人，問：『你們介意我說一句嗎？』
In fact, was a great moment, wasn't there, Phil, if you remember the that that memorable memorial service for John when he said very touchingly, you know, he said looked over to the family and said, will you mind if I say, you know, the clerk?
他們回答：『不介意。』
And they said, no.
一點都不介意。
No.
我們完全不介意。
We don't mind that at all.
那真是個動人的瞬間，對吧？
And, that was just a moment, wasn't it?
但那些話語，真的讓人難忘。
But those sayings.
是的。
Yeah.
而且我覺得特別溫暖。
And I think it's nice.
这些话应该一直流传下去，尤其是像他这样一位了不起的朋友。
They should live on, especially as certainly, you know, a great friend like that.
你肯定不希望来个新评论员，把那些话拿去用吧。
You wouldn't want like a new commentator coming and taking them on board or anything.
那样就有点怪了。
That'd be bit weird.
不过，丹尼斯向家人征求意见，我觉得他确实需要这么做，当然了，这很合理。
But yeah, I mean, for Dennis to ask permission from his family, I'm sure he's in need it, but yeah, of course.
是的。
Yeah.
我很想看看那个场景。
I would be interested to see that.
‘卡巴莱’这个词，我觉得可能得更新一下了。
The word cabaret, I think maybe needs updating.
听起来太老派了，不过我想
It makes it sound very old fashioned, but I guess
嗯，你听了可能不会惊讶，但我不同意。
Well, you won't you won't be surprised to hear I don't agree.
其实我很喜欢‘cabaret’这个词。
I mean, I love the word cabaret.
我完全不同意你的看法。
Well, I don't I don't I couldn't disagree with you more.
这是个很棒的旧词。
It's a wonderful old word.
一听就让我想起过去的时光。
Makes me think about pure yesteryear.
说不上来为什么，但就是有那种感觉。
Makes me don't know.
让我想到夏天，想到罗伊·哈丁那种风格的东西。
Makes me think about sort of summer season with Roy Hardin and elements like that.
我猜你是会同意我的看法的。
I'm gonna see you you you kindly agreeing.
诺曼·科尔利。
Norman Collier.
诺曼·科尔利，还有那些来自过去的老角色们。
Norman Norman Collier and all these characters from yesteryear.
还记得戴夫·亨登那时候跟我们在一起吗？
Remember when Dave Hendon was on us with us?
他清楚地记得，那个叫科西的罗杰，养了一只叫努基的熊。
He he he he he memorably remembered that Roger the Corsey of Corsey had Nookie Bear.
我实在想不起那个叫科西的罗杰了。
I couldn't remember Roger the Corsey.
这都得追溯到很久以前了。
This is going back a bit.
你还是直接跳到1947年1月吧。
You better move on to 01/1947.
对。
Yeah.
在我还来不及过多回忆以前的事情之前。
Before I start sort of just going down memory lane too much.
是的。
Yeah.
你给我留了Gaz 01/1947这一期，真是够幸运的。
You've you've left me the lucky one here from Gaz 01/1947.
谢谢你们又带来一季的《台球闲谈》。
Thank you for another season on Talking Snooker.
你们在节目里的表现实在太出色了。
You both do such a brilliant job on air.
信息量和幽默感拿捏得刚刚好。
Just the right balance of information and humor.
你们俩搭档的默契显而易见，听上去特别舒服。
You obviously have a great chemistry as a partnership, and it makes for such enjoyable listening.
我个人觉得这季最精彩的一集，就是你们在哈克尼碰面的那期。
I think my personal favorite episode of the season was when you met up in Hackney.
你根本猜不到接下来会发生什么。
You didn't quite know what was going to happen next.
苹果？
Apples?
我们其实没有苹果。
We don't have any actual apples.
我不记得了。
I don't know.
那个细节我早忘了，但重读的时候还是笑得不行。
I'd actually forgotten the specifics of that, but I really laugh reading that again.
感谢你多年来的辛勤付出，我觉得你得到的认可远远不够，希望以后能在克鲁斯堡或者其他赛事上见到你。
Thanks for all your hard work over many years, which I personally don't think you get enough credit for, and I hope to see you at the crucible or another tournament at some stage.
就是你啊，卡兹。
Well, you, Kaz.
对。
Yeah.
那是哈克尼的一段难忘经历。
That was a memorable episode in Hackney.
确实如此。
It was.
当时感觉有点不对劲，但现在回想起来，其实是一次特别有趣的疯狂收听体验。
Sort of felt for the wrong reasons at the time, but actually I think it was an enjoyable mad listen.
对，我们选了走马尔街，没走那边安静点的路。
Yeah, we elected to go right on Mare Street rather than sort of the quiet.
我觉得，酒吧里哪边更安静一点？
I think, 's the quieter area of the pub?
就是另一头，比较安静的那边？
The quieter sort of the other end, if you like?
可能那边人太多，或者太吵了？
Maybe it was full or something or was it a bit noisy?
具体原因我有点记不清了。
Don't quite remember the reason
钢琴。
piano.
现在。
Now.
是吗？
Was it?
明白了。
Right.
哦，是那个老乔安娜啊。
Oh, the old Joanna.
我不记得了。
I don't remember that.
明白了。
Right.
问问他，他刚才在谈精通。
Ask your so he's talking about mastery.
简直有点疯疯癫癫的。
Sort of barking mad, really.
那晚秋意淡淡，天气挺舒服的，对吧？
Sort of quite a mile it was a mild autumn night, wasn't it?
我们就这么在外面，到处都是。
We're just out there with all yeah.
就是啊，哈克尼那边，你永远猜不到会遇到什么。
It's just well, Hackney's, yeah, you never quite know what you're gonna get.
所以我很高兴这事能成，不过，邮件倒是挺客气的。
So I'm glad that sort of came over, but, yeah, very kind of email.
非常感谢你，加兹。
Thank you very much indeed to you, Gaz.
接下来是安德鲁·费尔韦瑟，他说：我在谢菲尔德参加了这场世界锦标赛，待了四天。
Move on to Andrew Fairweather who says, I spent four days in Sheffield at this world championship.
每年我都从萨福克开车过去，总觉得自己是不是想得太好了，但每年去了才发现，果然名不虚传。
Each year, I drive there from Suffolk thinking it's surely not as good as you think it is, and every year it is.
今年更是如此。
This year, even more so.
氛围太棒了。
What an atmosphere.
这氛围，真是没得说。
What a what an atmosphere.
这届赛事太精彩了，十七天的斯诺克简直让人难以置信。
What a tournament and what an unbelievable snook of the seventeen days.
今年我看的比赛比以往都多，三天内看了五场，跑遍了剧院各个角落。
I think I've watched more this year than ever before and took in five sessions in three days in various parts of the theater.
每年去那儿都很容易交到朋友，而且每次我去，都碰上好天气，坐在图多尔广场特别舒服。
Each year, it's easy to make friends with people, and the weather is always gorgeous when I'm there to sit in Tudor Square.
要挑个最难忘的瞬间还真难，可能是在广场上看奥沙利文对希金斯的决赛场，也可能是第一次挨着马克·艾伦坐，看他打巴里·霍金斯的第一局。
Hard to pick a highlight of my trip, maybe watching the final session of O'Sullivan v Higgins in the square, or having a seat sat next to Mark Allen for the first session of his match against Barry Hawkins.
太精彩了。
Amazing.
唯一有点遗憾的是那些传奇座席。
My only slight disappointment was the legend seats.
坐起来特别舒服。
Very comfortable.
能见到斯图尔特·宾汉姆真是太好了，地方也完美，就是摄像机有点烦人——我之前根本没想到这点。
Great to meet Stuart Bingham, and perfect place except for the cameras, which I hadn't thought of before going.
以前只有一张球台的时候倒没问题，但这次得老抬头看，确实挺累的。
I'm sure when it was one table, this wasn't an issue, but it was a pain looking up so much at the time.
不过要是这算我最不满意的地方，那我真盼着明年再来。
If that is my most negative thought though, roll on next year.
还有一个小想法，关于两年后离开克鲁斯堡的安排。
One slight thought about the one two years away from the crucible.
几个月前我去温布利的新剧院看演出，一进门就心想：这地方搞斯诺克真合适。
A few months back, I went to see something at the new theater in Wembley, and my first thought walking on in was this should be a great venue for snooker.
离开主场后，还有比温布利二号更合适的剧院式场地吗？
Where better when away from home than Wembley 2 and keeping with a theater theme?
安德鲁。
Andrew.
谢谢你，安德鲁。
Well, thanks thanks, Andrew.
很高兴收到你的消息。
Great to hear from you.
我给你发了消息，说真不了解那个新剧院，毕竟我经常去那儿，这事儿挺奇怪的。
I messaged you and said I didn't really know about that new theater, man, because it's weird when I I go there a lot.
我查了一下，心想，你别说，
I looked it up, I thought, do you know what?
这地方看起来还真不错。
It does look quite good.
我知道肯定有不少人选，但说实话，这主意还不算最差的。
I mean, I I know you you know, there will be loads of candidates, but, you know, it's not the worst idea I've heard.
它在伦敦。
It's in London.
人们总说得去伦敦才行。
People talk about the need to be London.
那里的赛事历史非常悠久。
It's got a great history of the game.
温布利当然多年都是主办地，后来那个竞技场就没那么成功了。
Wembley, of course, Conference Center for years, and then less successfully the arena.
我说的是大师赛，当然。
I'm talking about the Masters, of course.
那个地方确实挺不错的。
And, yeah, that place does look look look look rather nice.
这倒是个不错的提议。
It could suggest it.
至于摄像机，我之前还真担心过，因为我记得自己坐在媒体区的时候。
As for the cameras, well, I I thought it might be a problem before that because I I remember being in the media seats.
不过说实话，大家的看法不一。
But I have to say there there were mixed views.
我听到有几位在传奇座的观众说，他们根本没怎么在意。
I heard some other people on the Legend seats that said they didn't seem to worry too much.
这事儿对他们来说根本没影响。
That didn't really affect them.
所以啊，这种事吧，就是其中之一。
So listen, it's one of those things.
就像你说的，如果你最担心的事都没发生，那这趟值了。
As you say, that that's your most negative thought, then then that that's a good trip.
听到这种话，是不是让你又想起以前了，菲尔？
It brings it back when you hear things like that, doesn't it, Phil?
我喜欢这里的天气总是很好。
I like that the weather's always good.
天气通常都挺不错的，好像总是这样。
The weather is often good, seems to
就是这么回事。
happen like that.
是的。
Yeah.
确实如此。
It does.
那会儿在图多尔广场，确实有过一段特别温暖的时光，你知道的。
There was periods of real lovely sort of warmth that, you know, out there in Tudor Square, yeah.
一年一次就够了，但每年一次，我们还真挺有仪式感的。
Once a year's enough, but once a year, we're riddership.
对。
Yeah.
是吗？
Was it?
我查了一下。
I googled that.
是那个特罗巴杜尔剧院吗？
Is it the Troubadour Theatre?
是那个吗
Is that
特罗巴杜尔剧院。
The Troubadour.
对，就是那儿。
That's it.
看起来确实挺不错的。
It did look very nice.
是的。
Yeah.
我看到上面说有一千二百个座位。
I think it said 1,200 seats.
这个规模对间隔年活动来说刚刚好。
So about the right size for for the gap years.
是的。
Yeah.
我不确定。
I don't know.
希望他们正在考虑各种可能性。
Hopefully, they're considering all sorts of options.
我们之前总觉得可能会选个去过的地方，图个方便，但我希望他们真的在全面评估所有地点，毕竟那地方确实不错。
I know we sort of got this impression that it's probably gonna be somewhere we've been before and now for ease, but hope they're just looking at all these places and taking them into account because, yeah, that did look good.
而且我觉得我也听过类似的说法，其实摄像头没大家想得那么糟。
And, yeah, I think maybe the I've heard the same thing that cameras weren't as bad as maybe people thought.
所以可能只是预期的问题。
So maybe that was an expectation thing.
那边的安德鲁说，他根本没怎么想过这个问题，还挺烦人的。
It's Andrew there saying he hadn't really thought, considered it, and it was a bit annoying.
但我猜有些订票的人本来担心会很差，结果发现没那么糟。
But I think some of the people maybe booked their seats wondering if it was gonna be bad and maybe wasn't as bad as they thought.
所以可能只是你看待它时的心态问题。
So it could have just been sort of how you're going into looking at it.
不过，没错，那确实挺不错的，安德鲁。
But, no, that was a lovely enough, Andrew.
我特别享受世界锦标赛带来的积极氛围，毕竟这时候是一年中最棒的时节。
Very much enjoyed the positivity of the world championship because it is a great time of year.
我觉得这话没错。
I think that's that is true.
我不太擅长把各年份的比赛排个高低，但就算以世界锦标赛一贯的高标准来看，这一届也真的非常出色。
And that was I'm no good at sort of ranking them compared to other years, but that was a really excellent world championship even by the high standards of the world championship.
接下来是欧文·哈里斯。
So here's Owen Harris.
你好。
Hi.
谢谢你整个2526赛季带来的每一期播客。
Thanks for all the podcasts throughout the 2526 season.
一期都没落下。
I didn't miss a single one.
太出色了，欧文。
Very impressive, Owen.
在我看来，淘汰赛非常成功，布莱克浦真是举办它的理想之地。
My question is, in my opinion, the shootout has been a great success, and I think Blackpool is the perfect place for it.
既然我们知道‘大突破’要回来了，那它是不是也该成为排名赛？
Now that we we know Big Break is returning, should that also be a ranking event?
谢谢，欧文。
Thanks, Owen.
我觉得欧文这会儿是在开玩笑，不过也说不准。
I think Owen's being a bit playful here, but, you never know.
要是能让所有巡回赛选手都参与进来，人人都有机会，也不是没可能，毕竟以前也发生过更离谱的事。
What about if they get if they got every tour player on so everyone had a chance, stranger things have happened.
是的。
Yeah.
我觉得这纯粹就是聊天时的轻松调侃，对吧？
I think it's just it comes on the category of great banter, this, doesn't it?
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
就是闲聊嘛。
Banter.
不过你知道吗，菲尔？
But do you know what it does, Phil?
它让我们有机会提到《大突破》回归了，而上周我们复播时，根本没提这件事。
It does give us the chance to say Big Break is back, and that's something that when we returned last week, we we didn't mention.
所以欧文很贴心地提醒了我们这一点。
So Owen very helpfully pointing us in that direction.
我得说一件事。
I have to say one thing.
我没想到帕迪·麦吉尼斯这么不受欢迎。
I didn't realize Paddy McGinnis was so unpopular.
这让我觉得自己有点傻。
It made me feel a bit foolish.
我对他的看法其实不多。
I don't have a much of an opinion on him.
我在《凤凰之夜》里挺喜欢他的。
I liked him on Phoenix nights.
很多人可能觉得《体育问答》和《Top Gear》这两档节目有啥关联，但说实话，这两档我都不太在意。
I think a lot of people have got this Question of Sport Top Gear double thingy in fairness, but neither is really relevant for me.
自从伊恩·博瑟姆和比尔·鲍曼当主持人后，我就没怎么认真看过《体育问答》了。
I don't haven't really watched Question of Sport properly since Ian Botham and Bill Bowman were captains.
约翰·佩里那会儿我也没怎么追，所以这对我根本不是个事儿。
I didn't even watch the John Perry era that much, so it wasn't a factor for me.
我也没怎么看过《Top Gear》，因为我对车真没多大兴趣。
And I've never really watched Top Gear because I I I'm not really a big Cars person.
我得说实话。
I've gotta be honest.
所以啊，我觉得这事儿挺好的，对吧？
So, yeah, I think it'll be good, isn't it?
说实话，这对台球运动来说是好事。
I mean, it's it's good news for the game.
斯诺克又回到电视上了。
Snooker back on the telly.
我肯定会看。
I'll definitely watch.
我觉得大多数人都会看。
I think most of us will.
我听说有人讲这是白天播的节目，但那可能指的是晚上六点。
I did see a few people say it's it's a daytime show, but that could mean a 6PM slot.
那正好是我的时间。
So that's my slot.
对。
Yeah.
我觉得没错。
I think that is right.
早上六点。
06:00.
对。
Yeah.
我查了一下，BBC的日间节目一般到六点半或七点为止。
I googled that because BBC daytime goes up to half six or seven.
这只是他们安排节目时段的一种方式。
It's just a sort of how they portion out their scheduling.
但你一听到‘日间’，是不是第一反应就是中午十二点半之类的？
But, yeah, you when you hear daytime, you think half twelve or something, don't you?
不过我觉得《他的游戏仓库》应该是理查德·奥斯曼的那个问答节目。
But I think it is his Warehouse of Games was, I think, the Richard Osman quiz show.
明白了。
Right.
就是这个
That
每天的时段。
daily slot there.
这可是游戏节目的好消息。
Oh no, it's great news for the game.
是的。
Yeah.
至于帕迪·麦奎尼斯，这只是我个人的看法。
I mean, it's a personal opinion on Paddy McGuinness.
我觉得我还挺能接受他的。
I think I don't mind him.
说实话，我有点提不起劲来。
I was a bit sort of underwhelmed, I guess.
我觉得这人选吧，有点太明显了。
I think sort of just a bit of like an obvious choice.
他的风格我觉得有点土，但说真的，我也不是真讨厌他。
And his style is a bit naff for me, but at the same time, I don't dislike him really.
而且他应该是个台球迷。
And I guess he's a big snooker fan.
所以他才会出现在那里，你知道的，当保罗·斯科尔斯去克鲁西布剧院的时候，他和麦金尼斯一起做了个播客，斯科尔斯还特别兴奋地聊起他去那里的经历。
That's why he was actually on, you know when Paul Scholes went to The Crucible, he does that podcast with McGinnis, and Scholes was raving about his experience about going there.
麦金尼斯特别羡慕，后悔没跟他一起去。
McGinnis was so jealous about how he didn't take him with him.
所以我觉得他是真心喜欢台球。
So I think he is a genuine sting.
不，我
No, I
我不知道这事。
didn't know that.
对了，保罗不知道斯科尔斯是自己掏钱买票的吗？
Didn't Paul know Scholes paid for his ticket, by the way.
是的。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
他就这么突然出现了。
He just turned up.
但那真是太棒了。
But it was great.
我不知道有没有人听过这个。
I don't know if anyone's heard that.
节目叫《古德坏与尼基·巴特的足球》。
It's called the Gunder Bad and the Football with Nicky Butt.
他说他只是碰巧看到还有票，就买了一张。
But he was saying he was just looking if there was tickets paid, there was one.
他自己用手机买了票，一个人去了，又不是什么特邀嘉宾，结果到了那儿还不知道该去哪儿，问了个人，对方一看就说：‘你不是保罗·斯科尔斯吗？’
He just bought it on his phone and went on his own, and he wasn't sort of special guest or anything, but he didn't know where he was supposed to go, and he asked someone, and they were like, oh, you're Paul Scholes.
他们带他四处逛了逛，他说这是他这辈子最棒的经历。
They just showed him around, and he was just like, it's the best experience I've ever had.
他整个人都兴奋得不得了。
He was he was so, like, buzzing about it.
真的很不错。
It was really nice.
不过，咱们走着瞧吧。
But, yeah, so we'll see how it goes.
但至少，他回归对这场比赛吸引大量观众来说是件好事，我想。
But, yeah, certainly good news that he's back for the exposure of the game to big audiences that time, I guess.
挺好的。
Be pretty good.
是的。
Yeah.
我觉得这完全没什么问题。
I see a drawback at all with it.
我觉得亨利是个非常合适的人选。
I mean, I think Henry is a very good choice.
我确实听到有人问，那位之前提到的里奇·洛兹曼，难道不是当台球大使的最佳人选吗？
I did see a few people will say, well, wouldn't the aforementioned Rich Lozman, wouldn't wouldn't that be the best choice in being a great snooker?
但公平地说，我特别敬重的两三位业内人士都认为，他可能缺乏那种应有的气场，他们不觉得他合适。
But to be fair, two or three people that I really respect that work in that business say he wouldn't this is their view, is that he he wouldn't quite have had the right energy for that, they didn't think.
他们觉得他的气质并不符合那个职位的要求。
They didn't think his energy was what what was what you would need in that role.
所以，你好像有话要说？
So I think you've got something to say.
没有。
No.
没有。
No.
没有。
No.
我觉得这挺公允的。
I think that's fair.
他们显然心里有数，这大概就是我的推测。
They obviously got like an idea of what they want, and that's probably my guess.
是的。
Yeah.
我觉得体育生活频道的克里斯·哈默拍了一些社交媒体视频。
I think Chris Hammer from Sporting Life was doing some of his social media video.
他采访了所有球员。
He asked all the players on.
他其实也问了我。
He asked me, actually.
对。
Yeah.
没错。
Yeah.
涉及到的人范围挺广的，我之前提了蒂姆·基和史蒂夫·戴维斯，但那完全是另一种风格。
On who who is so there's all sorts of range of people, but I've put on that, I I said Tim Key and Steve Davis, but that is a whole different type of energy.
我的意思是，那肯定特别搞笑，但可不是工作日早上六点该有的氛围。
I mean, I think that would be hilarious, but that's not 06:00 in a weekday energy.
那种感觉确实不太搭，不过我觉得那才是最理想的。
That's that's not that that sort of vibe, but I think that would be ideal.
对。
Yes.
我之前好像提过肯·多珀蒂。
I I think I mentioned Ken Doperty.
那事儿突然就落我头上了。
It it was swung upon me a bit there.
我选的那位喜剧演员叫詹姆斯·A。
The comedian I went with, James A.
我选他纯粹是因为我认识他。
Caster, that's only because I know him.
他是我第一个想到的人。
He's the first person that came to mind.
不过呢。
But yeah.
真有意思。
Wow.
这全都挺有意思的。
That's all that's all interesting.
对。
Yeah.
我确实会关注体育生活那类内容。
I I do I do that sporting life thing.
其实我不确定该不该说，但新闻刚出来的时候，克里斯·哈默特意给我发了条消息，说这就是亨利不愿提起的原因。
In fact, I don't know if I should say this, but Chris Hammer sort of dropped me a line just afterwards when when the news came through and said, that's why Henry wouldn't talk about it.
所以，他可能早就知道了。
So he he may have already known that then.
瞧好了。
There you go.
不过呢，世界元老赛之后没多久我们就听到了这个消息，我觉得根本没什么不好之处。
But, yeah, it wasn't that long after the World Seniors that we heard that news, I don't see a particular drawback, you know, at all, really.
我的意思是，这确实能让这项运动获得更多关注。
I mean, I think it's a, yep, good exposure for the game.
我猜赛制应该会保持不变。
I presume it's gonna be the same format.
我挺想知道今晚咱们是不是都来跟你玩斯诺克了。
I'd be interested to hear if we all snookering you tonight.
我不太清楚，也没听说今晚会不会有人跟你打斯诺克。
I don't know you I've not heard whether that's gonna be snookering you tonight.
我希望是这样。
I hope it is.
我很想看看亨利扮演天秤座角色会是什么样，毕竟他那些花哨的马甲和花式击球什么的。
It'd be interesting to see how Henry takes on the Virgo role because, yeah, the the jazzy waistcoats and the trick shots and stuff.
你真没法想象他会那样做。
You can't just imagine him doing that really.
也许他们得稍微改一改。
Maybe they'll have to change that a bit.
是的。
Yeah.
你得让他把这事儿变成自己的风格，他肯定会带上自己特有的东西。
I think you have to make it his own, won't he, by doing doing having his own sort of, you know, traits with it.
不过，我真的很期待《Big Break》。
But, no, looking forward to Big Break for sure.
那档节目很快就要在BBC播出了。
That that's coming soon then to the BBC.
接下来我们聊聊罗伯特·麦格劳。
And we move on then to Robert McGraw.
对了，欧文那段小插曲挺有意思的。
By the way, the Owen, nice little bit of bantam.
你知道， shootout 根本就不该是个排名赛事。
You know, of course, very well that the shootout shouldn't even be a ranking event.
算了，还是说回《Big Break》吧。
Never mind, Big Break.
接下来聊聊罗伯特·麦圭尔。
But on to Robert Maguire.
我看了新赛程，英格兰北部的比赛也太多了。
I've looked through the new calendar, and there's far too many events in the North Of England.
为什么赛事不能更均匀地分布在全国各地呢？
Why aren't tournaments better spread throughout the country?
我住在布里斯托尔附近，西南部这么多年一直有大型赛事。
I live near Bristol, and we have had a serious big event in the Southwest for many years.
感觉我们这儿完全被忽略了。
It feels like we've been totally forgotten down here.
当然，赛程安排确实挺难平衡的。
Well, I mean, the calendar's hard to sort out.
我觉得北方的人确实挺幸运的。
I I I do think they're quite spoilt in the North.
我的意思是，事情本来就是这么发展的。
I mean, I I think it's just the the way it goes.
谢菲尔德作为这项运动历史上最重要赛事的举办地，选址根本不用犹豫。
It happens that Sheffield's a no brainer, the home of the greatest event of all.
约克现在也已经稳稳地站住了脚，办得特别出色。
York's now become very established in a brilliant way.
其实我并不是在批评什么。
So there's no criticism in a way.
只是事情自然发展成这样罢了。
It's just the way it's worked out.
现在曼彻斯特又被纳入进来，要办另一场大型赛事。
Now Manchester's thrown into the mix for another massive event.
几乎所有的顶级赛事都集中在了英格兰北部。
It's like almost the very, very biggest events in the game or most of them all in the North Of England.
事情本来就是这样。
That's the way it goes.
我的意思是，西南地区其实范围挺大的。
I mean, I think the Southwest is a big region, really.
它往南延伸得很远，从布里斯托一直到底特的彭赞斯，还有几个地方我特别喜欢去，德文郡和康沃尔郡也都在那儿。
I mean, it goes a lot further down than the Bristol down to, you know, Penzance and place up into a few times, which I I love going to, and also Devon and Cornwall generally.
我记得以前南威尔士也办过一些活动。
You know, I thought I thought, well, there have been events in the past in South Wales.
切尔滕纳姆离布里斯托其实不远。
I I think Cheltenham's not too far from Bristol.
我知道，因为我以前去报道切尔滕纳姆赛马的时候，就住在切尔滕纳姆附近的布里斯托。
I know that, because I stayed in Cheltenham in Bristol when I've been to cover Cheltenham racing.
但说实话，真要安排起来挺难的。
But, you know, yeah, it's hard it's hard to do it really.
总有些地方感觉被忽略了，不过英国能办的活动数量毕竟有限。
There are pockets that always feel forgotten, but, you know, there are only so many events you can have in The UK.
我想，菲尔，这毕竟只是个大概估计，但未来几年，英国的活动可能会越来越少，对吧？
And I guess, Phil, in in I mean, it's only a guesstimate, but in the years to come, we'll have fewer events in The UK, won't we?
因为会有一部分活动转移到其他地方去。
Because slightly more will go elsewhere.
也许这本来就是应该的样子。
That's that's probably how it should be.
所以，英国一些偏远地区可能会感觉更加被忽视。
So, you know, maybe pockets of the country will feel even more forgotten.
不过我觉得，如果你住在英格兰北部，那确实挺幸运的，但我想，活动的分布本来就是这么慢慢演变过来的。
But, yeah, I do think I do think, you know, the North Of England is blessed if you happen to live in that region, but I guess that's just the the way the nature of events have have evolved,
对。
Yeah.
而且说到英国的时候，我也经常在想这个问题。
And I suppose quite often thinking about Britain as well.
所以某种程度上，你得找一些相对居中的地点，来覆盖整个英国。
So you're sort of trying to think of sort of central ish points for the for the whole of The UK to an extent.
因为如果你真要去西南地区，那地方太偏太远了，从哪儿过去都不方便。
Because if you go in proper daily down in the Southwest, that that is really hard and far to get to for anywhere really.
不过话说回来，那边确实可以多办一些活动。
But yeah, there could certainly be more down that way.
切爾滕納姆，他說那地方其實也不算西南區，那裡根本不是那種情況。
Cheltenham, he said, I think that that's not really, that's not that way really.
那裡已經是他們能提供的最好的了。
The most, that's the most they've got.
归根结底，还是看钱吧，对吧？
It'll be down to money, won't it?
很多时候，像布里斯托、巴斯这类地方，你作为游客去一趟，感觉就跟去伦敦差不多。
A lot of the time, you know, if you go to places like you're thinking of like Bristol and Bath and places like that, just anecdotally going there as a tourist, you know, it's like going to London, isn't it?
这种地方办活动，估计成本高得吓人。
Which is very expensive places to host things, I imagine.
不过，连南威尔士也失去了，确实挺遗憾的。
But yeah, losing South Wales as well has been a shame.
这完全是另一个话题了。
That's been a whole different conversation.
不过话说回来，理想情况下，这些地方当然应该尽量分散开。
But yeah, of course, in an ideal world, they'd be as spread out as possible.
我确实觉得自己挺幸运的，住在谢菲尔德，约克就在附近，曼彻斯特也在另一边，都很方便。
And definitely I do feel lucky being in Sheffield and having York just up the road and Manchester the other way is very good.
就连特尔福德也没多远。
Even Telford's not very far away either really.
所以我们这儿的人真的挺有福气的。
So yeah, we do feel blessed up here.
但英格兰北部在很多方面都太被忽视了。
But then the North Of England is just tragically overlooked so many other things in life.
所以我们就只能珍惜斯诺克了。
So we'll take snooker.
非常感谢。
Thank you very much.
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