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大家好，欢迎收听新一期的《谈斯诺克》节目，我是菲尔·黑格，旁边是尼克·梅特卡夫。
Hello, and welcome to a new episode of Talking Snooker with Phil Haigh and Nick Metcalfe.
我们再次来聊聊我们都热爱的这项运动。
Once again talking about the game we all love.
确实。
Indeed.
又是一个周日晚上的经典时刻，不过说实话，这场决赛算不上经典。
And one of those great Sunday night records after a final, not not a classic final, I'm afraid.
比赛有点一边倒，但这一周的北爱尔兰公开赛还是让人难忘。
It's a bit too one-sided, but it's been a memorable week at the Northern Ireland Open no less.
确实如此，菲尔。
It really has, Phil.
毫无疑问。
No question about it.
这项赛事，如果说有什么变化的话，那就是每年都越来越有分量。
This tournament, if anything, grows in gravitas each year.
我我在贝尔法斯特待了一段时间，这个我待会儿再跟你说。
I I was in Belfast for some of it, I'll tell you about that later.
现在它确实有了一定的地位，对吧？
It just has a certain standing now doesn't it?
不管是那座城市，还是那个场馆，说实话，它现在感觉就像是巡回赛上很棒的一站，赛历上很重要的一部分。而且我们得说，尽管这一周爆冷不断，但冠军还是我们熟悉的面孔，这几乎成了这类赛事的经典桥段了，他就是凯伦·威尔逊。
Whether it's that city, that venue, it just feels like a a great stop on the tour frankly, great part of the calendar, And we gotta say, we have had a familiar winner despite a week of shocks, that classic trope, almost a classic of the genre, actually, and it's Kyren Wilson.
他在决赛中以9比2击败了杰克·琼斯。
He has beaten Jak Jones in the final by nine frames to two.
就像你说的，菲尔，这场决赛一边倒。
It was a one-sided final, as you say, Phil.
比赛一直没真正进入状态，看起来也从来不会打得很胶着，但凯伦确实打得非常好，非常出色。
It never really took off, never looked like going close, but credit to Kyren, he played really, really well.
我们待会儿还会聊很多关于球桌上的事，对吧？
We're gonna talk a lot more, aren't we, about matters on the table soon.
但是，菲尔，我觉得首先应该回顾一下马克·艾伦这段显然非常艰难的时期。
But, Phil, I think the right thing to do is, first of all, reflect on what has been clearly a very difficult time for Mark Allen.
我们确实看到了，不是吗，周二的那次采访，对我们所有人来说都极其难以观看，令人心碎，当时马克接受了TNT体育的瑞秋·凯西的采访。
We did see, didn't we, an interview on Tuesday, an extremely difficult to watch and heartrending interview for all of us when Mark spoke to Rachel Casey on TNT Sports.
那是在他以四比二输给乔丹·布朗，止步北爱尔兰公开赛之后。
That's after he lost four two to Jordan Brown at this Northern Ireland Open.
那是他自世锦赛半决赛输给吴宜泽以来的首次亮相。
That was his first appearance since he lost to Wu Yissa in the semifinals of the world championship.
让我重新读一下那天我为TNT体育网站写的那篇报道。
Let me recopy from the story I wrote for the TNT Sports website that day.
瑞秋·凯西问艾伦感觉如何，他说，说实话，不太好。
Rachel Casey asked Allen how he was, and he said, not good, if I'm honest.
真的非常崩溃。
Really overwhelmed.
我现在状态很糟糕，所以即使只是上场去尝试一下都很艰难。
I'm in a bad place at the minute, so even just to go out there and try was tough.
我觉得如果不是跟乔丹打，我可能就不会回来了。
I think if I wasn't playing Jordan, I wouldn't have come back.
我觉得如果……
I felt like it was if it...
我想在这里，在河滨，这一切开始的地方，2005年，跟我的一个最好的朋友打最后一场，我觉得那是个更好的告别方式。
I was going to play one last time playing here at the waterfront where it all started in 2,005 against one of my best mates, I thought that was a better way to sign out.
然后凯西问他是不是真的在考虑退役，艾伦说是的。
Then asked by Casey if he is genuinely thinking of signing out, Allen said yes.
说实话，我看不到未来还有斯诺克。
I just don't see a future with Snooker in it, if I'm honest.
这么说很难过，因为这是我12岁以来唯一热爱的事情。
It's sad to say because it's all I've loved to do since I was 12.
过去几个月真的很难熬，这让我重新审视了斯诺克在我心中的位置。
The last few months have been really difficult, and it sort of puts Snooker into perspective for me.
我收到了很多支持，但问题出在我自己心里。
I've been flooded with support, but the problems are within.
现在，我只是在努力撑下去，而那句话就是结尾，我想我们很多人都会记得。
At the minute, I'm just trying to survive, and that was the line that it finished on, which I think many of us will remember.
正如我所说，那是一次令人心碎的采访。
It was a heartwrending interview as I say.
我觉得很让人安心的是，马克之后发表了声明，在社交媒体上发布了非常感人的声明。
It is, I think, very reassuring that Mark has sent out statements since, very moving statements on social media.
首先，在周三那次采访后的第二天，他说他在一家心理健康诊所待了十周。
First, the day after that interview on Wednesday to say he has spent ten weeks at a mental health clinic.
他说，我现在看到了以前看不到的光，但现在我看到了。
He said, I see the light now that I couldn't see before, but I do now.
我也知道这不会一夜之间发生。
I also know it won't happen overnight.
我还在慢慢恢复中。
I'm a work in progress.
而就在今晚早些时候，我们和菲尔谈话的时候，马克又发了一条消息，说对我发表声明后收到的所有消息感到无比感动。
And as we're speaking to Phil on a Sunday night earlier today, Mark posted another message saying completely overwhelmed by all the messages I've received since my statement.
在我继续治疗和康复的过程中，我现在明白，将来我必须更多地提高人们对心理健康的认识。
As I continue my treatment and my recovery, I now know that I simply have to raise, more awareness around mental health in the future.
距离英国锦标赛开始还有大约六周时间，如果一切顺利的话。
It's the best part of six weeks before the UK championship starts and all being well.
到那时我会好起来的，但现在只能一天一天地过。
I'll be in a better place by then, but for now it's just one day at a time.
再次感谢大家的支持。
Thanks again for all your support.
这对我自己和我的家人意义重大。
It's meant so much to myself and my family.
菲尔，我们都祝愿马克早日康复。
Phil, we wish Mark well.
斯诺克界的每个人，体育界的每个人，以及所有善良的人，都希望马克能好起来。
Everyone in Snooker, everyone in sport, all decent people everywhere wish wish Mark well.
而且不得不说，最近几天看着这一切确实让人难受，我们真心同情斯诺克界最受欢迎的选手之一。
And it has to be said, well, you know, it's been tough to watch it in recent days, and our hearts just go out to one of Snooker's most popular characters.
当然。
Of course.
那真是一个让人看了很难受的采访。
That was a that was a horrible interview to watch.
他这么做非常勇敢，因为他……
Very brave for him to do it because he...
就像他在声明里说的，没有人逼他。
As he said in his statement, no one was making him.
我觉得没人会觉得有人逼他做那个采访。
I don't think anyone thought anyone was making him do that interview.
他显然是想把心里的话说出来，希望能借此得到一些帮助，也希望鼓励更多人支持他。
He clearly wanted to get something off his chest to some extent, and hopefully help to do so and hopefully encourage more support.
我觉得他之前已经得到了很多支持，但就像他说的，之后支持的人会更多。
I think he had a good amount of support already, but as he said, they would be flooded with more since then.
而且从他后来的发言来看，这次采访似乎产生了积极的影响，确实如此。他现在好像更愿意谈论这件事了，希望这能帮助他，甚至也能帮助其他人。
And it seems to have had a positive impact by the way he's been speaking since, very much so actually, and he seems encouraged to talk about it more, which hopefully will help him and possibly even help others as well.
这就是表达这些事情的好处。
That's that's the good thing about sort of expressing these things.
所以你看。
So look.
对在场的每个人来说，那天都很难熬。
It was that was a tough day for everyone involved there.
我显然为马克和乔丹感到难过，瑞秋做得很好，但对她来说也不容易。
I felt obviously terrible for Mark and Jordan, and Rachel did a brilliant job, but that kind of been easy for her.
但似乎已经产生了积极的影响，而且他今天（周日）说的最新内容听起来确实很积极。
But it seems to have already had a positive impact, and, you know, that that the most recent stuff he said today on Sunday did sound you know, playing.
我不想因为谈论比赛而轻描淡写，但他确实听起来像是在谈论在英国比赛，这在他之前说可能打最后一场比赛时听起来不太可能。
I don't wanna sort of make light of it by talking about the playing really, but it did sound like he was talking about playing at The UK, which didn't sound too likely when he was talking about maybe playing his last match.
所以这表明他的感觉有了显著改善，他还发布了一些有趣的内容，关于他如何每天进行积极思考，以及感恩的事情。
So that shows a significant improvement in how he's feeling, And he posts some interesting stuff about, you know, how he's going through his daily sort of positive thoughts and things to be grateful for.
我觉得这几乎是人们试图度过这些困难时的标准做法，听起来这对他有帮助，而且自从那个糟糕的日子以来，一切都很好。
I think that's kind of, you know, almost standard practice for people sort of trying to get through these things, and it sounds like it's helping and it's all, yeah, it's all been good since that horrible day when it wasn't very good.
是的，我真的很同情马克，他经历了这么多。
And yeah, heart goes out to Mark for what he's been going through.
这一切都有点神秘，大家都在谈论那个黑球失误，但我觉得我们可以明确地说，这不仅仅是斯诺克比赛的问题。
It's all been a bit of a mystery, You know, people talking about that miss Black, and I I think we could clearly say it's not down to it's down to a lot more than, you know, a snooker match.
所以继续把我们的爱送给那些正在经历他所经历的事情的人，我希望他能变得更坚强，我相信他会的。
So continue to send all our love to the people going through what he's going through, and I hope he comes out stronger, which I'm sure he will do.
确实，菲尔。
Indeed, Phil.
那场比赛真的很难看。
It it was such a tough watch.
我知道很多人……
I know many many people...
我相信你也是这样，很多人跟我聊起这件事，那些平时不聊斯诺克的人。
I'm sure you're the same have been speaking to me about it, people that wouldn't normally, you know, talk about snooker.
这是很多人，我们很多人生活中都会经历的事情。
It's something that so many people, so many of us do go through in life.
这种事可能发生在任何人身上。
It can happen to anyone.
这其实就是我想传达的信息，你知道吗。
That's that's really the message, you know.
它真的可能发生在任何人身上。
It it can happen to anyone.
而且，你知道，在那次糟糕的采访中，马克有一句话让我印象特别深刻，就是问题在于内心。
And you know, one line that really stuck with stuck with Mark for me from that bad interview is the problems are within.
没错，外界的支持当然很好，正如他所说，在整个斯诺克界，支持非常热烈，令人感动，我也看到政界人士和其他各行各业的人都在发声，这很棒。
And that's right, you know, the support is wonderful, and as he's rightly said, it's been brilliant and very moving throughout snooker sport, and people from politics I've seen posting, and, you know, all sorts of people from all walks of life, and that's great.
但有时候，那些问题你得自己找到力量去面对。
But sometimes those problems, you know, you have to find that strength yourself.
听着，马克正在寻求帮助。
Listen, Mark's getting help.
这太好了。
That's brilliant.
就像你说的，我们都希望他一切顺利，而且我很高兴你提到了瑞秋·凯西。
As you say, we all wish him just the very, very best, and I'm glad you mentioned Rachel Casey.
幸好她当时在场，因为她的同理心展现了出来。
You know, thank god she was on duty because her humanity came through.
更不用说她作为播音员的专业水平，那当然是顶尖的。
Never mind her skills as a broadcaster, which of course are top level.
她的同理心、她的正直、她的善良都展现了出来，这其实是那次采访中非常重要的一部分，她确实得到了很多赞誉，也是应得的。
Her humanity, her decency, her kindness came through, and it was a very important part of that interview actually, and she rightly is getting a lot of credit and deservedly so.
还有菲尔，我觉得我们也该做件合适的事，就是现在不要没完没了地讨论马克了。
And Phil, we, I think, also gonna do the thing that is appropriate, which is not, you know, talk about Mark ad nauseam now.
我们必须给他空间，我们也会这样做，对吧，让他能调整到更好的状态。
We must give him the space, and we'll do so, won't we, to get himself into an even better place.
这显然是我们所有人的期望。
That's obviously the hope for all of us.
我还想...
And I would also...
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We would also like to say that if you or someone you know is struggling, you can call 116123 right now for free support.
电话号码是116123。
That's on the phone 116123.
这个电话是免费的，不收费，保密，而且全天候24小时7天可用，他们也可以上网寻求帮助。
That's free, no charge, confidential, and available 247, and they can also go online.
你可以访问samaritans.org。
You can visit samaritans.org.
我们所有人，米奇，马克·艾伦，祝一切顺利。
We all, Mitch, Mark Allen, all the very best.
菲尔，接下来是北爱尔兰公开赛的赛事安排。
Phil, events on the table then in the Northern Ireland Open.
凯伦·威尔逊，我们直接跟你说，这是你的第11个排名赛冠军。
Well, Kyren Wilson, let's go straight to you and say, eleventh ranking title.
优秀的人总是压不住的。
You can't keep a good man down.
我们这周一直在说冷门频出的话题，对吧？
How often do we talk about that trope of shocks throughout the week?
但最后站到最后的又是谁呢？
Yet who's the last man standing?
还是那些熟悉的面孔之一。
It's one of the familiar ones.
而且，对，就连决赛的杰克·琼斯都不在前十六名，但他这赛季已经赢了两站比赛了。
And even, yeah, and even the final, you know, Jak Jones is not in the top 16, but he's won two tournaments this season.
如果不是他，那也差点是马克·威廉姆斯，他可是史上最伟大的球员之一。
And if it wasn't him, it was gonna be Mark Williams very nearly there, so one of the all time greats.
所以，对，这正好说明现在的好球员有多少。
So, yeah, it just goes to show how many good players there are.
我们老说这个，但前两三天你可能觉得冷门一个接一个，没完没了，可到最后，大牌选手还是在那儿。
We talk about it all the time, but you can lose seemingly just like endless shocks for the first two or three days, and then you still got big names right at the end.
而且，对，凯伦表现太棒了，冠军当之无愧，真的非常出色。
And, yeah, Kyren was fantastic, worthy winner, really excellent.
他唯一一次状态不稳是在半决赛，差点输给萨姆·克雷吉。
He had, you know, the the only wobbly he had was the semifinal he nearly lost to Sam Craigie.
说实话，他本该输给萨姆·克雷吉的。
Arguably, he should have lost to Sam Craigie.
萨姆肯定也是这么想的。
Certainly, Sam would have been thinking that.
但到了决赛，他完全掌控了局面，对吧？
But in the final, he he dominated it, didn't he?
他表现得非常出色。
He he was fantastic.
而且，是的，这……
And, yeah, it's...
凯伦最近的状态真是有点起伏不定，是吧？
Kyren's just had a funny time, isn't he?
因为感觉他好久没拿排名赛冠军了，甚至好像都没怎么威胁过冠军，但其实他上一次夺冠就在去年。
Because it seems ages since he's won a ranking title or even, like, threatened to win a ranking title, but his last one was only last year.
那是去年上半年的事，所以大概是一年半到两年前了，我想。
It was the first half of last year, so it was about eighteen, nineteen months ago, I think.
从那以后，他赢得了大师赛。
And since then, he's won the masters.
他赢得了上海大师赛。
He won the Shanghai masters.
这个赛季他打进了上海大师赛的决赛。
He'd been in the Shanghai masters final this season.
不久前他还打进了英格兰公开赛的决赛。
He was in the court final of the English not long ago.
所以感觉他好像消失了一阵子，但其实他并没有。
So so it's it's it felt like he's been away, but he he sort of hasn't.
至少没有消失太久。
Not for very long anyway.
而现在他完全回来了。
And now he's very much back.
如果他能在大部分比赛中都打出那样的水平，尤其是在决赛中，那他很快就会赢得更多冠军。
And if he can play like he did for most of that tournament, certainly in the final, then he'll be winning more tournaments very soon.
说得太对了。
Absolutely right.
这真是那种你希望决赛能打得难解难分的比赛。
And it was just one of those where, you know, you hope for a close final.
那也是现场观众想要的。
That's what the public there wanted.
他们希望贝尔法斯特的观众能看到比赛在周日晚些时候进行得更深入。
They wanted, you know, that Belfast crowd to see it go deeper into the Sunday night.
但就是没能实现。
You know, it it it just didn't happen.
凯伦在决赛中表现得非常出色。
You know, Kyren was just excellent in in the final.
凯伦在第一阶段就打出了三杆破百和两杆60多分，以6比2领先。
Three centuries and two breaks in the sixties in the first session from Kyren to take a, a six two lead.
琼斯晚上需要快速开局。
It was, Jones needing that fast start in the evening.
但没能实现。
It didn't happen.
威尔逊又赢了三局，最终以75分的单杆收尾。
Wilson won three more frames for victory, finishing with a break of 75.
你说得对，该聊聊杰克·琼斯。
You're right to talk about Jak Jones.
这个赛季真是了不起。
What a season.
他自己低调处理，但我们不必如此。
He's playing it downfield, but we don't have to.
我看到老戴维对他说，你迟早会给自己应得的肯定。
I see how big old David is saying to him, you give yourself a credit eventually.
但他现在还没这么做。
He's not only doing so yet.
他……
He...
他确实是那种人。
He's that type really.
他给人的感觉真的很舒服，不会过分吹嘘自己，但他看起来确实很在状态，不是吗？
He's got a lovely way about him really, not not talking up his wares too much, but, you know, he's he's looking the part, isn't he?
现在两项排名赛事都结束了。
Two ranking events are now final.
我的天哪。
My goodness me.
所以凯伦的目标就是要超越他的朋友吉米·怀特。
So Kyren's all about going past his his mate, Jimmy White.
有点好笑，因为在吉米那个年代，并不是所有比赛都是排名赛……
I mean, it's a bit funny because back in Jimmy's day, they weren't all...
但凯伦确实……
Always ranking events, but he certainly...
他刚开始的时候，确实有些微妙的地方。
When he started off, there's always a bit of nuance there.
不过，凯伦现在成绩不错，已经拿了11个冠军。
But, nevertheless, Kyren in good numbers now with 11.
我相信后面还会有更多。
Lots more to come, I'm sure.
而且我有个感觉，他们好像把……
And I had a feeling they they chucked...
我有证据。
I've got evidence.
他们在赛道广播里给我放了这个。
They chucked it at me at track radio.
有天早上我在那儿的时候，他们拿这个开我玩笑。
They took the mic out of me one morning when I on there feeling.
他们说，你不能老是把每个人都提一遍。
They said, you can't keep naming everybody.
谁会赢呢？
Who are gonna go to win it?
他们就把这个扔给我了。
Threw it at me.
我说，你知道吗，凯伦？
I said, you know what, Kyren?
我在16强赛之前确实说过，这不算什么大胆的预测。
I I did say ahead of the last 16, that's not exactly a dramatic call.
其实只有凯伦和马克·威廉姆斯是顶尖选手，但我当时说不是因为他是谁。
It's only really Kyren and Mark Williams are big hitters, but I did say it wasn't just because who he was.
我只是觉得……
I just thought...
顺便说一句，我很喜欢凯伦·威尔逊和特普特罗约的新比赛。
Love the Kyren Wilson, Teptroyo, our new match, by the way.
尼尔·福尔说这是本周最佳表现。
You know, Neil Fowl said it was the performance of the week.
我觉得那是我见过的最精彩的……
I thought it was one of the...
在那个阶段，我觉得那是本赛季最精彩的表演之一。
At that stage, I thought it was one of the performances of the season.
泰普特罗约虽然以四比二输了，但表现非常出色。
Teptroyo was brilliant to lose four two.
看那场比赛真是激动人心，而且凯伦在那场比赛里就是有种特别的气质。
It was thrilling to watch, and there there's just something about Kyren in that match.
我当时想，天哪。
I thought, god.
他真的是很难被阻止的。
He's really gonna take take some stopping.
不过，我们稍后可能会从十六强阶段开始聊。
But, well, we'll go maybe from the last 16 stage shortly.
但是，菲尔，我们来谈谈那些爆冷吧。
But, Phil, let's talk about the shocks.
他们全都出局了，对吧？
I mean, they all went, didn't they?
罗尼·奥沙利文、马克·塞尔比、贾德·特鲁姆普、尼尔·罗伯逊、肖恩·墨菲，全都早早被淘汰了。
You know, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Mark Selby, Judd Trump, Neil Robertson, Sean Murphy, all out early.
马克·威廉姆斯在电台斯诺克节目里跟我说，他觉得这绝对跟分级赛制有关。
Now Mark Williams told me on Radio Snooker that he thinks it's definitely down to the tiered system.
他觉得球员们来了，
You know, he thinks players are coming.
他们经过资格赛的磨练，已经身经百战了。
They're battle hardened from qualifiers.
而且很多人都同意马克的看法。
And lots of people do agree with Mark.
你知道吗？
And you know what?
这没有什么硬性规定。
There's no hard and fast rules.
这不是一门精确的科学，但逻辑上肯定说明他说得有道理，对吧，马克？
It's not an exact science, but logic surely points to the fact that he's got a good case there, isn't he, Mark?
有道理。
I mean, it makes sense.
他们确实打了更多比赛，显然，但通常他们并没有打更多……
They definitely played more games, obviously, but often they haven't played more...
显然，那之后也过了一段时间。
Obviously, it's been a while as well since then.
在这之前，差不多有两周没有比赛。
You know, there was no there's no matches for nearly two weeks before this.
所以，是的，他们整个赛季打的比赛更多。
So, yeah, they played more games over the season.
他们真的……
Are are they really...
他们还有马特·夏普在托登特之后追着他们吗？
They still has Matt Sharp going into the Tordent after them?
我不知道。
I don't know.
你得问他们。
You'd have to ask them.
我觉得值得所有这些……
Think it's worth all these...
我们在这期节目里聊了很多关于分级和系统的事情。
We've talked about the tiers and the and the systems a lot of them in this.
有优点也有缺点，两边都有解释的办法。
There's pros and cons and ways of explaining both sides.
马克解释的方式很有道理，而且看起来确实是这样，你知道吗。
I mean, that the way Mark explained it made sense, and it seems to be playing out, you know.
即使最后冠军还是被前十六名选手拿走，也有很多非前十六名的选手打得很深。
There's there's a lot of deep runs for non top 16 players even if the top 16 players ends up nicking the title at the end.
资格赛选手走得挺远的。
Qualifiers are going far.
但我觉得硬币的另一面是，当排名前16的选手在那一年的排名榜上赢了几场比赛时，他们不需要赢那么多场就能走得很远。
But I suppose the other the other side of the coin is when the top 16 players do win some games on that one year ranking list, they they don't have to win so many to get really far.
不过，我今天看了直播排名，罗尼·奥沙利文还在利亚姆·戴维斯上面，这可能就是本赛季这个观点的最好例证，因为我每次看到利亚姆·戴维斯他都在赢，而每次看到罗尼他都在输。
You know, still, was looking at the live one today, and Ronnie O'Sullivan is still above Liam Davies on there, which may end up being the sort of season illustration of this point because Liam Davies seems to be winning every time I see him, and Ronnie seems to be losing every time I see him.
但罗尼只要在关键时候赢几场，他就能排在前面。
But Ronnie with a few at the right point, and he's still above him.
不过，是的，也不是这样。
But, yeah, no.
当然，马克说的有道理，他提出了一个很好的观点，而且这也可以从两方面来看。
Certainly, what Mark made sense, what Mark said made sense, and he made a good point, and this again, you could spin this both ways.
比如，资格赛选手要赢一场、两场、三场，甚至四场比赛才能碰到前16的选手，这很辛苦。
Like, the the qualifiers have to win one, two, three, plus four games to play the top 16 player, which is hard work.
而前16的选手只需要赢一场比赛，就能比他们赚更多的钱。
And then the one top 16 player has to win one match to win more money than them.
所以你想成为前16的选手。
So you wanna be the top 16 player.
但马克的意思是，作为资格赛选手进入主赛场，你已经拿到了那些奖金，压力没了，你是弱势方，打好了就是赚到，他们就这样进去打败那些高手，因为他们也做好了准备，这也说得通。
But the way Mark put it was you get to the main stage as a qualifier, you banked all that cash, their pressure's off, you're an underdog, it's a free hit, and they're going in and beating these guys because they've also matched up, which makes sense as well.
所以，是的，凡事都有两面，我理解双方的观点。
So, yeah, there's two sides to the coin, and I get both points.
但，是的，确实，这个想法很有趣，因为虽然他们没有被预测会赢，但我觉得他们其实是被预测会赢的。
But, yeah, certainly, the the idea it's funny because it is no idea that they're predicted, but I think they are predicted.
只是他们没有被预测得那么准，因为其他人都太强了。
It's just that they're not it's just they're not predicted that well because everyone else is so dangerous.
我觉得这很有道理。
I think that that makes a lot of sense.
菲尔，我们来看看伍兹赛场上16强阶段的结果吧。
Phil, let's go through the results from the last 16 stage on Woods then.
哦，对了，记得凯伦·威尔逊和庞俊旭打得挺不错的。
And, oh, well, remember Kyren Wilson, Pang Jung Su pretty well.
凯伦以4比3赢了。
Kyren won it four three.
这场比赛真精彩。
Really good match.
凯伦打出94分，在决胜局中获胜。
Break of 94 from Kyren and the deciders to win it.
桑·克雷格以4比2击败了马克塞尔。
San Craig, he beat Maxell four two.
埃利奥特·斯莱瑟以4比1获胜。
It was Elliott Slessor four.
里基·沃尔登1比4，安东尼·麦吉尔4比1马蒂亚斯·巴罗诺夫斯基。
Ricky Walden one, and Anthony McGill four, Matthias Barronowski one.
巴罗诺夫斯基表现不错，当然值得称赞。
Word for Barronowski, good run, of course.
马克·威廉姆斯以4比0击败了马丁·奥唐纳。
Mark Williams beat Martin O'Donnell at four nil.
马克用一杆127分完美收官，太棒了。
Loved the one two seven to wrap it up for Mark.
有点威廉姆斯巅峰时期的感觉。
Bit of vintage Williams there.
大卫·吉尔伯特，他还没……
David Gilbert, who haven't...
我在那里的时候，周围一片悲观情绪，菲尔，但偶尔也有乐观的时刻。
Amid a load of pessimism when I was there, Phil, had the odd moment of optimism.
我是说，悲观和乐观的比例大概是五比一，悲观占多数。
I'm saying it was about five five one in a ratio in in favor of pessimism.
那还不错。
That's not bad.
对戴夫来说，那已经不错了。
That's not bad for Dave.
他以四比二击败了科威特·钟。
He beat, Kuwait Chung at four two.
杰克·琼斯四比二战胜丹尼尔·威尔斯，斯科特·唐纳森四比二战胜乔丹·布朗。
It was Jak Jones four, Daniel Wells two, and, Scott Donaldson four, Jordan Brown two.
所以乔丹的主场希望就此终结了。
So home hopes ended there for Jordan.
那我们回到四分之一决赛，也把话题交给你，菲尔·海格。
Let's go back to the quarterfinals then and also, then go back to you, Phil Haigh.
凯伦·威尔逊6比1战胜安东尼·麦吉尔。
It's Kyren Wilson six Anthony McGill one.
凯伦这场比赛可是全力以赴了。
Bit between the teeth stuff from Kyren there.
他打出了77分、75分和122分的单杆。
Breaks at 77, 75, and one two two for him.
山姆·克雷吉6比2击败埃利奥特·斯莱塞。
Sam Craigie bit Elliott, a lesser six two.
这场比赛挺有意思的，周五下午的四分之一决赛一边倒，但晚上的比赛完全不是那么回事。
It was a funny one because the Friday afternoon quarters were one-sided, and then at night, anything but.
马克·威廉姆斯6比4战胜大卫·吉尔伯特。
It was Mark Williams six, David Gilbert four.
威廉姆斯这场打得真漂亮，在2比4落后的情况下逆转取胜，还打出了三杆破百。
Great one from Williams with four two down to win it, including three successes centuries.
接下来那场真是精彩，比分咬得很紧，戏剧性十足，一直打到深夜。
And then a really exciting one, very close and dramatic, went late into the night.
杰克·琼斯，6比
Jak Jones, six.
斯科特·唐纳森，5比。
Scott Donaldson, five.
所以菲尔，这场比赛有很多值得你好好琢磨的地方。
So a lot lot to get yourself stuck into there there, Phil.
而且，嗯，我想说他最后还是赢了，就像我们说的，但每一轮打下来，他状态看起来都很好。
And, yeah, I mean, I suppose he ended up winning as we're gonna say it, but every round as it went on, time was just looking the part.
确实，非常强势。
Really, really strong.
最突出的两位是马塔斯·布罗诺夫斯基和春克·魏，他们排名都很靠后。
I mean, the two that stood out there, Matasz Bronowski and Chunker Wei, from way down deep in the rankings.
而且，是的，钟击败了雷尼·奥沙利文，而且打得很好。
And, yeah, Chung beat Renee O'Sullivan and played well to do it.
今晚决赛后，我在Zoom上跟凯伦聊了聊，提到了那场比赛。
I spoke to Kyren on the Zoom after after the final tonight, and that match came up.
他说他觉得罗尼打得并不差。
And he said he didn't think Ronnie played badly.
看起来还行。
Looked alright.
但钟就是打得非常好，这就是为什么会有这么多冷门。
But Chung just just played really well, and that's why you're getting all these shocks.
有些球员世界排名可能只有110位，但随时都能发挥出色，击败史上最佳。
There's just players that could be ranked 110 in the world and just play well enough to beat the goat at any at any point.
所以，是的，这些选手的表现真是太棒了。
So, yeah, great runs from those guys.
那个吉尔...
That Gil...
那场比赛就是威廉姆斯对吉尔伯特的比赛。
That can be the Williams Gilbert game.
哇。
Wow.
威廉姆斯之前确实状态不佳。
Williams was Yeah.
但突然之间，他看起来就像地球上最顶尖的选手，遥遥领先。
All over the shop, and then suddenly just looked like, yeah, the best player on the planet by a mile.
最后一局的那个球，我后来看了大概五十遍。
That read in the last frame, I've watched that about 50 times since then.
天哪。
Oh, god.
那一杆太精彩了。
What a shot.
简直难以置信。
It's absolutely unbelievable.
我当时其实……
I actually went...
我当时有点，有点……什么来着……
I was sort of I was sort of what...
我想他打那一杆的时候我可能在看手机什么的，然后球就进了。
I think I was just looking at my phone or something when he put it, and it went in.
我当时就想，这不可能……
I was like, you can't...
这是蒙的吧？
Was that a fluke?
就是说，你根本不可能去瞄准那个球。
Like, you can't even go for that.
然后我就倒回去看了。
And then I just rewound it.
当时就觉得，不会吧。
It was like, no.
真是难以置信。
Unbelievable.
而且还有一个很棒的……
And there's a great...
这可能会成为吉尔伯特坐在椅子上那个小得意的表情的经典素材，就像在说，你能相信吗？
It'll probably become, like, mean material of the little smirk that Gilbert had in his chair just like, can you believe this?
那真的很好笑。
It was very funny.
不过，确实，马克自己后来也这么说了。
But, yeah, mean, and Mark said that himself afterwards.
他可以从几乎投不进20分变成势不可挡，他就说，趁我现在感觉这么好，我要全力进攻，而且球都进了。
He can go from sort of can't make 20 to just unstoppable, and he just said, I'm going for everything while I feel like this, and they're all going in.
所以，当他状态这么好的时候，看着真是难以置信。
So, yeah, it's just unbelievable to watch when he's like that.
而且很难有人能阻止他，但就像他说的，他的状态有点起伏不定。
And it was hard to see anyone stopping him, but like he said, he's sort of up and down a little bit.
但是，是的，凯伦在那之前一直比较平静，看起来状态很好，我们后来也看到他继续保持这样的表现。
But, yeah, Kyren was relatively serene through to that stage, looking very good as as we went on to see him continue to do.
但我为萨姆感到高兴。
But I was pleased for Sam.
我们稍后会谈到他在半决赛的失利，但显然，去年我们请他来过这里，那是很久以前的事了。
We'll get to his defeat in the semis, but, obviously, we had him on here, last year, complete years ago.
我想可能是去年。
I think it might have been last year.
他是不是很有价值？
And wasn't he good value?
当他从伤病中恢复过来时，他通常认为自己的职业生涯可能结束了，这对任何运动员来说都是一段可怕的时光，不得不考虑自己还能做什么，而自己一生只做过这一件事。
When he came back from his injury, he generally thought his career might be over, it's a terrifying time really for any sportsman, eyeing at what else you might do when all you've ever done is this.
所以他是个很棒的球员。
So he's a great player.
他是……
He's...
他绝对能在比赛中做得更多，这次对他来说真是一次很棒的表现。
He could definitely do more than he has done in the game, and that was a great run for him there.
但经典的是，我觉得自己现在就像个复读机一样反复说这个。
But the classic, I feel like a broken record on it talking about now.
这是他很久以来，甚至可能是有史以来最好的一次表现，他肯定对结局感到非常懊恼。
It's the best run he's had for ages, if not ever, and he'll be pig sick with the way it ended.
他肯定会的，菲尔。
He will, Phil.
而且，听我说。
And listen.
我们的工作就是尽情赞美斯诺克，而在超级星期六，这根本不需要太多赞美，因为那真是太精彩了，不是吗？
Our job is to wax lyrical about Snooker, and it doesn't need much waxing when it came to super Saturday because it was it was stunning, wasn't it?
任何一个半决赛星期六，这些年来我们见过很多次，所有22局都打完的情况。
I mean, any semifinal Saturday, we've seen plenty over the years when all 22 frames are played.
那挺好的。
That's good.
半决赛六比五的比分通常都不错，但这次特别精彩，对吧？
Six fives in semis tend to be good, but they were kind of extra good, weren't they?
太戏剧性了。
They were so dramatic.
简直让人激动不已。
It was just thrilling.
第一场，凯伦·威尔逊六比五战胜萨姆·克雷吉。
First one, Kyren Wilson, six Sam Craigie, five.
说实话，我得承认。
Now I've gotta be honest.
我特别看好凯伦能赢下那场。
I strongly fancied Kyren to win that.
大概六比二或六比三吧。
Probably about six two, six three.
那是我在伦敦赶路去上班时，在手机上断断续续看到的比赛。
That's one of those while I was traveling across London to do a shift, catching bits on the phone.
有时候我在地铁上、火车上也能看一些片段，还有其他各种方式。
Sometimes I can watch bits on the tube and on the train and different things.
我有点不敢相信，而且不是说山姆不好，他是个很棒的球员。
I sort of couldn't believe it in a way, and nothing against Sam was a great player.
我只是觉得凯伦状态太好了。
I just thought Kyren was firing so much.
山姆打出了一些精彩的表现，以五比三领先。
Sam inspired stuff going five three ahead.
作为冠军，威尔逊追到了五比五，然后就是决胜局。
Wilson, as the champion, has fought back to five five, and that decider.
我记得你在社交媒体上说过，这是最决胜的决胜局，这个说法挺贴切的。
I mean, I think you said the the most decidery of deciders, which is a good way of expressing it on social media.
你看，
Look.
我们在家里看球的时候，什么球都不会漏掉，对吧？
We don't miss any pots on the armchair, do we?
从那里打很容易，但萨姆本来有个绝佳的机会。
It's very easy from there, but, you know, Sam had a wonderful chance.
在球堆那头从来都不容易。
They're never as easy at the bulk end.
我在赛前就一直在想这个。
I was thinking in the build up of this.
菲尔，对我们来说，从各个角度和方向都很难。
They're they're hard from us at all ends and all sides, Phil.
但对那些选手，像萨姆·奎基、凯伦·威尔逊，他们更喜欢黑球那端。
But for those guys, people like Sam Quakey, Kyren Wilson, they prefer the black end.
每个人都喜欢，因为那边从来都不容易。
Everyone does because it's just never as easy.
但红球离库边没那么近。
But it wasn't that near It wasn't that near the cushion with the red.
我压根没想到他会打丢。
I didn't think for a minute he missed it.
我以为他要赢了。
I thought he was gonna win.
你知道吗？
You know?
我想大多数人都会这么想。
I think most of us would have done.
对他来说真是太可惜了。
It was unfortunate for him.
你知道吗？
You know?
那种情况真的让人替他感到惋惜，但他确实错过了一个绝佳的机会。
It was one of those where you had to feel so sorry, but what a golden chance he had.
凯伦赢得了比赛。
Kyren got the victory.
然后周六晚上，菲尔，杰克·琼斯是全场最震惊的人，因为他觉得自己打得并不好。
And then Jak Jones was the most shell shocked man in the arena on Saturday night, Phil, because he didn't think he played that well.
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他显然在某些阶段打得不错。
He obviously did in patches.
那是杰克在自谦，但他一开始并没有。
It was Jak playing it down, but he didn't early on.
威廉姆斯打得很好。
Williams played well.
他当时以四比一领先。
He was four one up.
本应该五比一的，但他错过了一个简单的黄球。
Should have been five one, missed an easy yellow.
然后琼斯追到了四比四，威廉姆斯五比四，又到五比五。
And then Jones got back to four four, five four Williams, five five.
我现在还记得艾伦·麦克马努斯当时的样子。
And then I still remember Alan McManus right now.
威廉姆斯在关键时刻打得非常好，领先四十多分，然后打进了一个彩球，完成了约翰·鲍尔式的操作。
Williams played really well in in the decided to go 40 odd points up, put a color say, did the did the John Power.
如果你是威廉姆斯的球迷，看到那局面，大家都觉得胜利在望，心里挺高兴的。
Everyone was happy if you're Williams fans heading for victory seemingly.
然后艾伦·麦克马纳斯说，我看到了，但我不敢相信。
Then Alan McManus said, I've seen it, but I don't believe it.
然后他说，对。
And then he said Yeah.
别，别给我看重播。
Don't even don't even show me a replay.
我还是不敢相信。
I still don't believe it.
重播放出来的时候，他那个时机把握得真好。
And as the replay came on, was a good good the way he timed it.
对马克来说，那真是一次难以置信的简单失误，球直接漏了中间。
Just an incredible dolly miss to middle for Mark.
他只需要大概五六杆就能搞定。
He only needed about five or six pops to do it.
琼斯回来了。
Jones came back.
他赢了。
He won it.
然后有人在社交媒体上跟我说，这说明即使是顶尖高手也会有那样的比赛。
And someone said to me on social media about it shows that even the greats can have matches like that.
当然会有。
Of course, they can.
顶尖高手也不例外。
Even the greats can.
不过，菲尔，总结一下那个半决赛的周六吧。
But, yeah, I mean, sum up that semifinal Saturday, Phil.
你，你……
You you...
轮到你来抒发感慨了，先生。
Your turn to wax lyrical, sir.
那真是太精彩了。
It was great stuff.
而且即使不是特别精彩的时候，也充满了戏剧性。
And even when it wasn't great stuff, it was great dramatic stuff.
我特别喜欢萨姆和凯伦之间的那场决胜局。
I mean, I love that decider between Sam and Kyren.
他们俩打了很久，防守都打得特别好。
They really went out for ages playing great safety.
好长一段时间里，谁都没有什么机会。
There was no chance for anything for ages.
后来双方都有机会了，我当时觉得萨姆要赢了。
Then both got chances, and, yeah, and I thought Sam was gonna win then.
但即使那样，他还是又追回来了。
And even then he got back in though.
他打了一杆黄球，我确实在想，那个红球没进是不是让他有点乱了阵脚，因为他选择打一个非常难的长台黄球，结果把凯伦留在了台面上，其实他本来可以打一杆防守的。
He had a he had a shot of the yellow, and I did wonder if that miss on the red was sort of scrambled his brain a bit because he took on a very tricky long yellow to then leave Kyren in for the match, and he could have played a safety.
不知道。
Don't know.
但是，是的，这场失利很可惜，因为他当时5比3领先的时候状态那么好，对吧？
But, yeah, tough tough loss because he looked so good at five three, wasn't it?
凯伦必须赢下最后三局。
Kyren had to win the last three frames.
他当时看起来非常强势，而凯伦也出现了一些意外的失误。
He was looking very strong, and Kyren had missed some unexpected shots.
但从那之后，凯伦的表现让我印象深刻，因为……
But, you know, I was impressed with Kyren from there because, you know, it...
他当时是那场比赛的热门选手。
He was a he was a hot favour of that match.
我和你一样，一开始也以为他会赢，但他最近在排名赛中的表现确实不太好。
I, like you, thought he was gonna win at the start, but he's he's not been winning recently in ranking events certainly.
他甚至都没能走得很远，但也没有出现什么明显的波动……
He's not been going deep even, but there weren't any sort of wobbles to...
他从那里一路冲刺到终点线。
As he burst for the winning line from there.
所以，是的，我对他印象深刻。
So, yeah, I was I was impressed with him.
而且，那个另一场真是疯狂，真的。
And, yeah, then that other one is just madness, really.
就像，马克只是……
Like, Mark just...
他解释过了，对吧？
I mean, he he explained it, didn't he?
他只是一半一半地打比赛，对吉尔伯特那场是后半段。
He's just having half of games at a time, and against Gilbert was the second half.
对杰克那场是前半段。
Against Jack, it was the first half.
但直到最后都充满戏剧性。
But drama to the end.
真是精彩。
So lovely stuff.
物有所值。
Value for money.
我不知道半决赛的门票多少钱，哦，对。
I don't know how much a semifinal day's ticket was in Oh, yeah.
每一分钱都值。
It was worth every penny.
比决赛还值。
More than the final was.
事情就是这样，不是吗？
That's the way it goes, isn't it?
这就是你在决赛中看到的。
That's what you saw in the final.
之前已经说过了。
Talked about it earlier.
凯伦·威尔逊，一场非常非常漂亮的胜利，以九比二轻松战胜了杰克·琼斯。
Kyren Wilson, a very, very good win, a comfortable victory against Jak Jones by nine frames to two.
恭喜凯伦。
Congratulations to Kyren.
菲尔，我们待会儿再聊聊贝尔法斯特，以及整个赛事、场馆和这座城市的情况。
Let's talk more about Belfast and the tournament in general terms and the venue and the city in a couple of moments time, Phil.
我们时间还算充裕，这里要说明一下，你正在收听的是《斯诺克闲谈》，主持人是菲尔·海格和尼克·梅特卡夫。
We're doing okay for time, and we should say here, you are listening to Talking Snooker with Phil Haigh and Nick Metcalfe.
大家好。
Hello, everybody.
这里是《斯诺克闲谈》。
It's Talking Snooker here.
很高兴你们能收听我们的节目。
It's good to have you with us.
现在我觉得可以跟你聊聊贝尔法斯特了。
And feeling I can swap notes now about Belfast.
他去年去了。
He went last year.
我今年刚去过。
I've just been this year.
虽然我玩得很开心，但这就是总体情况。
And while I had a cracking time, that's the overall headline.
毫无疑问。
No no question about it.
我确实很喜欢水滨大厅那种独特的风格。
I I do love the distinct nature of the Waterfront Hall.
这一点毫无疑问。
No question about it.
我知道你和其他很多人都聊过这个。
I know you've talked about it and a lot on other people.
那些阳台的设计方式，真的是一个非常有趣的设计。
The way those balconies come down, it's it's a really interesting piece of design.
我这辈子因为各种原因去过无数个这样的场馆，但这里真的很特别，你总是会被它吸引住，我还拍了张照片，我知道很多人都看过。
You know, having been in about a million of these venues in in my life, you know, for different reasons, you know, it's something really distinct, you always have really grabbed by it, and I took a photo that I know a lot of people have seen.
其实这张照片在我的一些社交媒体上还挺受关注的。
Got quite a lot of attention actually on, putting it on some of my various social media feeds.
就在最顶上，你能看到两边都有阳台，而且它……
Right at the top where you get the idea the balcony's both sides, and it...
这真的是我很喜欢的一点。
It's really, you know, something I enjoyed.
我很喜欢那个宽敞的大厅。
I love the big foyer.
它有一种……
It's a...
就是那个我常说的词，它有一种庄重感。
You know, it's just that word I know I use, but it's got a gravitas.
当你从市中心那边走过来的时候，就像我经常那样，从市政厅附近过来，我就住在市中心靠近拉特纳车站的地方，然后我往那边走。
When you're walking towards that, if you're coming from the city or more, you know, from the center as I often did past City Hall where I was staying right near the center near the near the Ratner Station, and I was going that way.
有一天我沿着水边走过桥，不管走哪条路，都有那种大事件的感觉，我很喜欢。
Or one day I walked by the waterfront over the bridge, Whichever way you go, it's got that feeling of a big event, which I love.
你知道吗？
You know?
我真的很享受这种感觉。
I really enjoy that.
谁不喜欢呢？
I mean, who doesn't love that?
至于这座城市，是的，我真的很喜欢。
As for the city, yeah, I mean, I I really enjoyed it.
特别是星期四，天气很好，阳光明媚，典型的秋日。
Particularly on Thursday, lovely, nice, sunny, or classic autumn day.
我喜欢在大教堂附近散步，然后沿着……走下去。
I enjoyed walking around the Cathedral 0.25 and, you know, walking down the...
沿着水边。
By the waterfront.
哦，对了，菲尔，我那天不是玩得很开心吗？
Oh, also, Phil, didn't I have a lovely time?
就是我去班戈的那天。
The day I went to Banger.
确实很开心。
I did.
我坐的是拉特勒列车去班戈，一路上非常非常舒服，两端的车站都是终点站。
I took I took I took the Rattler to Banger, and it was very, very pleasant, Both stations at the end of the line.
作为一个铁路迷，我特别喜欢这一点。
I love that as a railway nerd.
那感觉真的很好。
That was really nice.
虽然只是一次短途旅行，但我真的很享受。
Nice excursion, but I did enjoy it.
真的，特别享受。
I really did.
总的来说，我得说，这不是我想强调的一点，但也不是我想忽略的一点。
And I've gotta say overall, it's not a point I wanna labor, but it's not a point I wanna ignore either.
如果你和我年纪相仿或差不多，在贝尔法斯特总会让你深受触动。
If you're of my age or or similar, it will always be immensely affecting to be in Belfast.
我不是说你在那里的每一刻都在想这件事，但当你回想起来，我生命中的那么多时光，那座城市，在动乱年代里都伴随着巨大的悲伤。
I'm not saying you think about it every moment you're there by any means, but when you reflect on it, so much of my life, that city, was associated with such great sadness during the years of the troubles.
现在看到它成为一个可爱的城市、有趣的城市、充满活力和喧嚣，这真的让我很感动，实际上我觉得非常动人。
To see it now as a lovely city, fun city, vibrant, buzzing, it's really, say, something that affects me and really I find pretty moving actually.
所以都是好事。
So all good stuff.
我知道你大概也会有同感。
I know you'll probably echo this.
我们待会儿可能会聊到2029年世锦赛，但我知道你去了之后也有类似的感受，当场馆和城市完美结合的时候，那就是我们想要的，不是吗？
We'll come to the, yeah, world championship twenty twenty nine talk perhaps in a moment, but, yeah, I know you found similar things when you went when the venue and the city join together in marriage if you like, that's what we're looking for isn't it?
对，当然，是的。
Yeah definitely yeah.
对我来说，城市的大小很重要。
The size of the city is a big thing for me.
它是个首都城市，是个重要的大城市，但也不是特别大。
It's It's a capital city, it's a substantial significant city, but it's not massive.
你可以步行穿过整个城市。
You can walk across it.
我看地图的时候，发现我住的地方在……
When I looked at the map where I was staying there, I felt like I was on the...
我不小心订到了城市的另一边，我当时想，我是不是订错了？
I'd accidentally booked it on the other side of the city and I was like, have I done there?
但其实也就走二十五分钟。
But it's a bit twenty five minute walk really.
所以你想去哪儿都很方便。
So you can go wherever you want easily.
这地方真不错。
It's a great spot.
我觉得当这种事情自然获得很多赞誉时，反对者就会出现，总得有人在报纸上写一篇唱反调的文章，因为事情太受欢迎时就会这样。
I feel like it's getting so much praise naturally when these things happen, then the naysayers appear and you've got to have someone's got to write a sort of contrary column about it in a in a broadsheet because that's what happens when things get too popular.
但我真的没听人说过贝尔法斯特的水滨大厅和这项赛事的坏话。
But I've never really had anyone say anything bad about the Waterfront Hall and this this tournament in Belfast.
它只是……
It it just...
这股热潮还在继续，这就是我的感受。
The wave of popularity continues, and that's what I found.
我去是因为它被吹得很厉害，结果确实没让人失望。
You know, I went because it had been bigged up so much, and it lived up expectations.
就像你说的，一个有趣的城市。
As you said, a fun city.
不过，一周中的任何一天去都行。
It could be any night of the week, though.
如果你看完斯诺克出来，总会有地方可以去，那里有氛围、有活力，还能喝上几杯吉尼斯。
If you come out the snooker, there'll be somewhere to go that'll be atmospheric and vibrant and somewhere to have a few Guinnesses.
如果，戴夫·吉尔伯特其实……
If, Dave Gilbert was actually...
他开始做视频博客，感觉有点落后于时代二十年，但他在脸书上发了很多内容，看起来挺有意思的。
He started vlogging, which feels like he's sort of twenty years behind the curve on that, but he was posting a lot on his Facebook, and it was very enjoyable.
结果他连着几个晚上喝了几杯吉尼斯黑啤，看着还挺好玩的。
And he ended up having a few Guinnesses a few nights, which was, fun to watch.
这也是关于球迷的另一个方面。
And that's another thing about the the the fans.
我会看到很多球员在外面，能打个招呼。
I'll see a lot of players out and about and get to say hello.
所以……
So...
不。
No.
一切都挺好的。
It's all it's all positive.
整个环境，房间的布置本身，排队区都很好。
Everything about the setting, the way the the room is set up itself, the queue zone's great.
一切都很好。
It's it's all good.
我也不太清楚。
And I don't know.
好像有各种说法，关于世界锦标赛是不是要去那里。
There's there seems to have been sort of various levels of is the world championship is going there.
我，我……
I I...
我不确定是不是这样，但有很多讨论说为什么那里会是个合适的场地，我完全同意。
I'm not sure if that's the case, but, there's been plenty of talk up of why how it would be suitable venue for it, and I completely agree with that.
某种程度上，我觉得马克说过……
And in a way, I think Mark said...
马克有没有跟你提过，说是在谢菲尔德？
Did Mark say this to you about it being in Sheffield?
还是他在电视上说的？
Or did he say it on TV?
其实他也跟我说过。
He he said it to me as well, actually.
但我刚才说的关于贝尔法斯特的那些事情……
But some of the things I've just said about Belfast about...
还有关于谢菲尔德其他场馆的一些说法，恰恰说明了贝尔法斯特为什么那么好。
And some of the things that have been said about the other venues in Sheffield is why Belfast's so good.
有人提到谢菲尔德体育馆。
You know, the Sheffield Arena gets mentioned.
那个地方不在市中心，也不是市中心的好地段。
You know, that's not in town or a good bit of town.
它缺少了贝尔法斯特很多好的地方，如果你坐电车去那边的话。
It's missing a lot of the good things that Belfast would have if you get that tram out to that bit of town.
它就在EIS旁边，很多人可能去过那里看世锦赛资格赛。
It's by like the EIS as people would would have been to the World Championship qualifiers there.
那地方不怎么样。
It ain't the best.
还有那个八角厅也经常被提到，就是你们说的那个海滨大厅的阳台布局和建筑风格很气派。
And or the Octagon has got mentioned quite a lot, you know, that's, you know, you talk about the impressive layout and architecture of the of the balconies at the Waterfront Hall.
八角厅其实就像大学里的一个房间。
The Octagon is just sort of like a a room in this due to the university.
就是个大房间。
Like, it's a big room.
能容纳不少人，但说到底就是个房间。
You could fit enough people in it, but it's just it's just a room.
所以……
So...
我……
I mean, I'm...
我永远都会为谢菲尔德辩护。
I I would always defend Sheffield.
海厅才是那个地方。
The Sea Hall is the one.
如果我们能进去的话……
If we could get in...
我不知道能不能好好布置，但那是个漂亮的建筑，能容纳几千人。
I don't know if it could be set up properly, but that is a beautiful building that can fit a couple of thousand people in.
它……
It...
它有个舞台在尽头。
It's it's got, like, a stage at the end.
我不知道能不能改造成适合斯诺克比赛的场地，但如果能的话，那在谢菲尔德就是它了。
I don't know if you could configure it for snooker, but if you could, that would be the one in Sheffield.
但其他一些地方，贝尔法斯特那样的城市可能就没有。
But some of these other ones are are not what somewhere like Belfast could have.
解释得真好。
Well explained.
我确实觉得马克·威廉姆斯说得有道理，亨利前辈也这么说过，因为我当时提议的是曼彻斯特。
I do think there's merit in what Mark Williams says, and senior Henry said it as well, because my suggestion was Manchester.
我也知道有些问题。
And I understand there's issues.
可能他们拿不到那个场馆。
Maybe they can't get that venue.
我的意思是，那只是一个场馆。
Mean, that's only one venue.
曼彻斯特有很多地方可以举办。
There are lots of places that could have it in Manchester.
对我来说，那一眼看上去就是个很棒的城市。
That that to me was the one that leapt out straight away as a great city.
近年来我们在那里举办过大型斯诺克赛事。
We've had Snooker there now in in recent years at a big tournament.
交通非常方便，很容易到达。
The connectivity is so easy to get to.
对我来说，那才是我本来想去的地方。
You know, for me, that was, you know, where where I was gonna go.
但你说得对。
But look, you're right.
其实有很多不错的候选城市。
There were lots of good candidates.
威廉姆斯和亨利也提到过，留在谢菲尔德确实有它的道理。
There is merit, and Williams Henry says it as well.
就留在谢菲尔德吧。
You know, keep it in Sheffield.
自从1977年克鲁斯堡剧院开始举办这项赛事以来，它就一直在这里。
It's been there since, you know, the crucible went there and, you know, started the tournament in '77.
未来这么多年也一直在这里。
It's going there for all the years in the future.
为什么要打破谢菲尔德这个传统呢？
Why break the Sheffield run if you like?
我不是……
I'm not...
有道理。
Fair enough.
我其实还没把那期音频放出来，以后可能会放，但我在节目上对谢菲尔德和里德有点苛刻了。
I I haven't actually put that audio out yet, which I may do at some stage, but I was a little bit harsh on Sheffield and Reader on the air.
我说，嗯，那里不怎么样。
I said, well, it's not brilliant.
马克说，他们能把它变得很棒。
And Mark said, they can turn it brilliant.
我知道他们确实能把它变得很棒。
I know that they can turn it brilliant, really.
那……
That that...
那就是我发疯的时候，对吧，你接我的时候。
That's where I went to madness, wasn't it, when you picked me up.
它它……
It it...
它的功能……
It's function...
它能用，但是……
It's functional, but...
而且你听我说。
And listen.
我觉得……
I think the...
说实话，我对2029年其实没那么执着。
I'm not too hung up on 2029, actually, if I'm brutally honest.
我知道这周我问了很多关于它的问题，什么的。
I mean, I know I've asked a lot of questions this week about it and what have you.
对我来说，是的，我们希望它好，但关键在于它介于两个不同的考验之间，可以这么说。
To me, you know, yes yes, we want it to be good, but, you know, the point is it's it's in between the two different crucibles, if you like.
这不是我觉得大家需要特别在意的事情。
You know, it's not something I particularly, you know, think anyone should go overboard about.
我确实觉得这个……
I I do, yeah, think this...
我在谢菲尔德体育馆的时候，我想，哦，这将会像……
When I was at Sheffield Arena, I thought, oh, this this is gonna be like where where...
如果有人去过温布利体育馆，当时大师赛在那里举办，效果一直不好。
If anyone went to Wembley Arena when the masters was there, it never worked.
那只是一个巨大的体育馆，对斯诺克来说有点不合适。
It was just a massive arena, a bit of it for snooker.
音响效果完全不对。
The acoustics were all wrong.
氛围也完全不对。
The ambiance was all wrong.
就是不好。
It was just not good.
我觉得谢菲尔德体育馆也会是那样。
I think Sheffield Arena would be like that.
我们提到它是因为那是个大地方，可以承办比赛。
We mentioned that because it's a big old place you can host it.
就像你说的，周边环境也不怎么样。
As you say, it's not even good around it.
附近有几家酒店，对吧？
There's a couple of sort hotels, isn't there?
还有几家酒店的酒吧。
Couple of hotel bars.
它……
It...
说它没有灵魂有点刻薄，但确实有点像那样，对吧？
Saying soulless is a bit rude and mean, but it's a bit like that, isn't it?
当然，跟那些辉煌的时刻相比……
Certainly compared to the glories...
我看到你的表情了，你同意。
I see your face, you agree.
当然，比起……
Certainly by the...
比起谢菲尔德市中心的辉煌，我们当然都很熟悉那里。
Compared to the the glories of the center of the city in Sheffield, which we know so well, of course.
但你看，乔丹·布朗跟我说，如果忽略贝尔法斯特，那简直是疯了。
But look, Jordan Brown said to me it would be, quote, mad to overlook, you know, Belfast.
他说对他来说，这是毫无疑问的选择。
He says it was a no brainer for him.
我知道当时有很多代表出席。
I know there was great representation.
我知道北爱尔兰政府里也有政界人士这周在场。
I know there are people from politics in Northern Ireland government that that were there during during this week.
而且，听着，这肯定会成为这座城市的一大骄傲，我敢肯定。
And listen, it would be a a source of great pride for the city, I'm sure.
大家一提到这件事，眼睛都亮了，光是想想就让人兴奋。
You know, when everyone talks about it, their eyes light up, just the prospect of it.
据我所知，目前还没有即将发布的公告。
As far as I know, there's no imminent announcement.
但我不会排除这种可能性。
I wouldn't rule it out.
你懂吧？
You know?
有可能在年底前就会宣布。
It it may come before the end of the year.
我猜大概会在我们今年听到克鲁斯堡协议的那个时候公布。
My guess is that it would come around about the same time we heard about the crucible deal this year, I.
也就是在比赛开始前不久。
E, sometime just before the tournament.
那样的话，对我们来说岂不是正好，菲尔？
And wouldn't that suit us, Phil, by the way?
因为那意味着我们不会整个二十年代都在讨论这件事。
Because it it means it wouldn't spend the whole of the twenties.
不是说我们会一直讨论，你明白我的意思吧。
Not that we'd spend the whole of it, you know what I mean.
我们不想在享受克鲁斯堡五十年的同时，花那么长时间去猜测29年的事。
We don't wanna spend that long speculating about 29 when we're enjoying the the fifty years of the crucible,
这正是我所期待的，大概在下一届世锦赛之前，但会比现在更接近下一届世锦赛。
That's what I'm expecting really, sometime before the next world championship, but closer to the next world championship than now.
是的，戴夫·赫德曼在这个话题上说得很好。
And, yeah, and and Dave Hedman makes this point well, when on this subject.
我们可以谈论场馆有多棒，但这一切也离不开资金。
I mean, it's that we could talk about how great venues are, but it all comes out of finances as well.
把这些地方租下来三周要花多少钱。
How much it costs to take these places up for three weeks.
但当然，就像你说的，地方政府在贝尔法斯特或其他地方，不一定非得是贝尔法斯特，任何城市，举办这么大规模、这么长时间的赛事，对城市来说都是巨大的利好。
But, of course, like you said, you know, local government in Belfast going there, somewhere like not necessarily just Belfast, but anywhere, it's a huge boon to have a tournament that big, that long in the city.
所以我肯定有可以谈的余地，但走着瞧吧。
So I'm sure there's deals to be done, but we'll see.
如果我没记错的话……
If I'm right in saying the...
是不是有个协议让它留在那里，资格赛就留在原地，还是他们……
Didn't the deal to keep it there, the qualifiers were gonna stay where they are, or they...
是不是……
Did...
那个不是已经确认了吗？
Was that not confirmed?
你这话可把我难住了。
You throw me a bit of a potato there.
我喜欢热……
I like hot...
我超爱热山芋的。
I love I love hot potatoes.
对我来说没问题。
No problem for me.
加点奶酪，加点豆子，太棒了，菲尔。
Bit of cheese, bit of beans, lovely Phil.
完全不介意，完全不介意，上校。
Don't mind those at all don't mind those at all, colonel.
我觉得资格赛可能真的会在谢菲尔德举行。
I think the qualifiers might well be selling Sheffield, actually.
我不会
I wouldn't
刚刚有……
just had...
所以我在想，如果那样的话，是不是就不太可能飞过去了，如果你已经……
So I was wondered if that if that if that makes it less likely to be a flight away if you've...
资格赛周三结束，周六开始，但也许不是这样。
The qualifiers finish on the Wednesday to start on the Saturday, but maybe not.
也许那跟这个没关系。
Maybe that might not have anything to do with it.
但是，是的，你看，任何去那儿看过斯图克比赛的人，就像我说的，有……
But, yeah, look, anyone who will have been to watch The Stooker there, as I said, there's...
我还没听说过有不好的，而且你总能找到一些不好的地方。
I've not heard an ace, and you can always find an ace somewhere.
我还没发现贝尔法斯特的水滨大厅有什么不好的，所以如果能办成那就太好了。
I've not found one about the Waterfront Hall in Belfast, so it would be great if it can be done.
我查了一下，因为我想看看职位名称。
I looked up because I wanted to see the job title.
我确实见过水滨大厅的首席执行官，他为那个场馆感到非常自豪。
I did meet the chief executive of the Waterfront Hall and, you know, rightly proud of that venue.
而且你走过墙上的那些人，他们可都是音乐界的大人物。
And you go through people on the wall, it's not like, you know, they're not quite big names in music.
电视行业的人跟我说，最近鲍勃·迪伦还在这儿连演了两晚。
I mean, you know, the TV sector was saying to me, I've had Bob Dylan here for two nights recently.
就是这样。
That's the thing.
它……
It, you know, it...
你说到费用的问题。
You talk about the expense.
租用水滨大厅可不便宜。
It won't be cheap to hire the Waterfront Hall.
它就在那边。
It is slap down there.
其实我……
I actually...
顺便说一句，我……
By the way, I...
这有点涉及出行的问题。
This is a bit of a travel point.
我喜欢那种地方。
I love places like that.
我觉得这挺有北欧特色的，我是说在欧洲那边。
I think it's quite a sort of northern thing, and I mean in Europe.
很多斯堪的纳维亚的地方都有。
A lot of Scandinavia.
苏格兰有，那些岛屿也有。
Scotland has it, and the islands have it.
我去过设得兰群岛的一个。
I've been to one in Shetland.
雷克雅未克有一个特别棒的。
There's a brilliant one in Reykjavik.
我有点幻想在那里办一场斯诺克比赛。
I have a bit of a fantasy them having a snook event in it.
我记得雷克雅未克那个地方叫什么来着。
I've I've got what it's what it's called in Reykjavik.
可能就是歌剧院吧。
Might just be the Opera house.
我喜欢这样的建筑，它们能充分利用那些天气不太好的地方，说实话，因为阳光能透过窗户照进来。
I love buildings like that where they make the the best use of what isn't always a great weather place frankly, because the sun comes in the windows.
这是一个……
It's a...
还有几天也是这样，就是那个海滨大厅。
And a couple of days were like that, the waterfront hall.
阳光洒进来，我特别喜欢那些大窗户，能看到外面的水。
The sun was streaming, and I love that big windows looking out to water.
这对我来说太完美了。
That suits me perfectly.
我喜欢这样的地方，这个也属于这一类。
I love places like that, and this fits in that category.
顺便说一句，奥斯陆也有一个很美的，就是那里的歌剧院。
There's a beautiful one in Oslo as well, the opera house there, by the way.
我特别喜欢这样的地方。
I I love the places like that.
这里就是这样。
This is like that.
就是有那种很舒服的感觉。
It just has that nice feel about it.
所以，是的，这是个……
So, yeah, it's a...
就像你听到这些地方的名字，会想，哇，真不错。
Like you you hear these places named, you think, yeah, fancy that.
这周很多人跟我说到约克，我的母校，问我为什么不去约克呢？
Lot lot of people were saying to York to me, my old alma mater during the week, why not York?
我想，对啊，为什么不去约克呢？
I thought, yeah, why not York?
那是个很棒的地方。
It's a great place.
我很喜欢那里。
I love it.
对我来说，那里完全没什么可抱怨的。
There'd be no complaints whatsoever for me there.
所以我对'29年的事不会太纠结。
So I don't get hung up too much on '29.
我觉得不管怎么样，那肯定会是一场精彩的锦标赛。
I think whatever it is, you know, you know, I'm sure it'll be a good championship.
而且我们……
And we...
在两个克鲁斯堡赛区之间，我们走着瞧吧，看看会发生什么。
In between the two crucible areas, we'll see we'll see what happens.
虽然不是菲尔，但我在那里过得很开心。
A non Phil, but look, I enjoyed my time there.
我觉得那是一项顶级赛事，而且我知道你也有类似的感觉。
I think it's a a top tournament, and I know you, you know, you you have sort of similar feelings as well.
我们得恭喜所有参与举办的人，对吧？
We we say congratulations to everyone that put it on, don't we?
我在那儿的时候，人们跟我说，这现在可是最大的本土赛事了。
You know, people were saying to me when I was there, this is the biggest home nations now.
我一开始有点不以为然，但转念一想，威尔士的历史底蕴那么深厚。
I suppose a little bit of me balked, but I thought, the history of the Welsh is so so big.
但你知道吗？
But do you know what?
现在别人这么说，我也不介意了。
I don't mind if people say that now.
这确实说明它有可取之处。
There there is a sign of merit in it.
威尔士赛的举办地换了好多次。
The Welsh has moved around a lot.
这确实是它的问题所在。
That's its problem really.
而且他们现在还有了 waterfront。
And then they've got the waterfront now.
虽然可能花了十年时间，但现在北爱尔兰可能是最大的本土国家了。
It might only have taken a decade, but maybe Northern Ireland is the biggest home nation now.
哦，我想起来我之前想说什么了。
Oh, I know what I meant to say earlier.
忘了。
Forgot me.
我一会儿再说。
I'll come back.
我想起来了。
It's come back to me.
我明白你什么意思。
I know what you mean about that.
这挺有意思的。
It's a funny thing.
当所有人都那么夸一件事的时候，它几乎肯定……
When everyone's praising something so much, it almost has to be...
我给你举个例子，就是伦敦奥运会那次。
I'll tell you an example of that London Olympics.
我生活中两个非常好的朋友，他们就是那种……
Now two of my very good friends in life that they're such...
他们本来就很爱唱反调，但他们当时就说，这夸得也太过分了。
They're quite contrary anyway, but they were like, there's too much praise over this.
我们得说，不。
We need to be like, no.
太过了。
It's too much.
每个人都在说伦敦有多棒。
Everyone's saying how incredible London is.
有点让人受不了。
It's a bit unbearable.
有些人天生就那样，但说真的，我觉得这事儿没必要唱反调，我更觉得我们应该多夸夸苏格兰。
Some people are designed a bit like that, but I tell you what, I don't think there needs to be naysayers on this, but what I do think is we need to talk the Scottish up more.
我们聊那个活动聊得不够……
We don't talk that event enough...
不够多。
Up enough.
总是……
It's always...
也不是总是，但经常有负面的声音，比如，哎呀，快圣诞节了，时机不对。
Not always, but there's often negatives, oh, know, just before Christmas and it's not the right time.
你很少听到关于那个活动的正面消息，真的很少。
You never sort of hear anything really positive or rarely about that event.
那是在爱丁堡。
It is in Edinburgh.
那是个很棒的城市。
It is a great city.
这是爱丁堡的圣诞节。
It's Edinburgh Christmas.
所以也许……
So maybe...
菲尔，我不是要告诉你该怎么做。
I'm not gonna tell you what to do, Phil.
我就从我的角度来说。
I'll do it from my point of view.
这次我想多夸夸苏格兰，因为我觉得说到那个活动，总是有点太悲观了。
I wanna talk the Scottish up a bit more this time because I think when it comes to that event, it's always a bit too downbeat.
这是一年中的这个时候，对吧？
It's it's the time of year, isn't it?
但同时，那也是一年中的好时光。
But then at the same time, that's a great time of year.
我是个圣诞迷。
I'm a Christmas fan.
而且有时候选手会退出那个比赛，我在社交媒体上看到有人说，哦，好吧，你知道，那是……
And, you know, players pull out that event sometimes, and I see people on social media saying, oh, well, know, it's the...
离圣诞节还有几周呢。
It's a couple of weeks before Christmas.
好像离圣诞节还有几周就不能去打几局斯诺克似的。
As if you can't go and play a couple of games of Snooker a couple of weeks before Christmas.
那正是我干的事，而且我还没报酬呢。
That's exactly what I do, and I'm not even getting paid to do it.
所以，是的，我没听说过……
So, yeah, I've not heard...
不过说实话，我一直听说那边的场馆很棒，这可能跟那有关，但爱丁堡，真是个了不起的城市。
Always heard amazing things about the venue up there to be fair, which might have something to do with it, but Edinburgh, you know, what a city.
所以那确实值得称赞。
So that should certainly get the praise.
但我得去那边看看。
But I'll have to go up there.
我其实还没去过那个比赛，所以也许这是我们未来几年的任务，去看看。
I've not actually been while that tournison, so, maybe that's our our mission for years to come to come and have a look.
但是……
But...
不。
No.
对贝尔法斯特来说，绝对都是好事。
It's all it's all positives for Belfast for sure.
好，这句话很适合你。
Well, there's a line for you.
菲尔·海格，一个喜欢圣诞节的人。
Phil Haigh, a Christmas fan.
我们……
We we...
这集大家可没在等吧，对吧？
This hasn't been an awaited episode, has it, at all?
菲尔，我们得继续往下聊了，对吧，从北爱尔兰公开赛开始。
Phil, we're going to move on, aren't we, from the Northern Ireland Open?
凯伦·威尔逊打得真好。
Well done to Kyren Wilson.
所有为那场精彩赛事付出的人，都干得漂亮。
Well done to everyone that put on that smashing tournament.
然后我们还有……
And we got...
我们大概把节目分成了三部分。
We we fitted this into sort of three thirds potentially here.
前两部分已经聊完了。
Couple of thirds done.
我们尽量聊满一个小时，好不好？
We'll try and take it up to an hour, won't we?
顺便说一下，你现在收听的是《聊斯诺克》节目，我是菲尔·海格，还有尼克·梅特卡夫。
And we should say you are listening here to Talking Snooker with Phil Haigh and Nick Metcalfe.
大家好。
Hello, everybody.
这里是Talking Snooker，下一个赛事是国际锦标赛。
It's Talking Snooker here, and the next event is the international championship.
我们很期待。
We're looking forward to it.
如果你周日收听，他们提到已经是第二天了，别忘了比赛是周六开始的。
If you tune in Sunday and they're talking about it being day two already, don't forget it starts on Saturday.
这是一个从周六到周六的锦标赛。
It's a Saturday to Saturday tournament.
明白吗？
Okay?
从本周六，也就是万圣节10月31日开始，到下周六11月7日结束，这样正好赶上11月9日周一的冠军中的冠军赛。
Beginning this Saturday, Halloween, October 31, and ending the following Saturday, November 7, which helps for the start of the champion of champions on Monday, November 9.
所以很期待，菲尔。
So looking forward to it, Phil.
我会看看一些比赛。
I'll have a look at some of the matches.
当然，有一场特别引人注目。
One leaps out, of course.
我们开播前就提过。
We mentioned it before we came on the air.
马克·塞尔比对阵吉米·怀特。
Mark Selby gets Jimmy Jimmy White.
在这场比赛中，马克·塞尔比算是小将了。
Mark Selby's a baby in this match.
那是在周六凌晨，实际上是半夜。
That's in the early hours of Saturday morning, mid of the night, actually.
英国时间差不多是周五深夜，但如果你在远东或澳大利亚，周六对你来说是个好时间。
Almost late Friday night UK time, but if you're in the Far East, you're in Australia, it's a good time for you on on Saturday.
我看了他们的第一场比赛。
I looked at their first match.
那是在2005年的爱尔兰大师赛上，菲尔，在西城酒店，吉米以5比1获胜。
It was at the two thousand and five Irish Masters, Phil, at the City West Hotel, Jimmy winning five one.
那都是好几年前的事了。
That's going back a few years.
斯图尔特·宾厄姆和马克·霍金斯，我可能用那个词用得太多了，难缠，这两位都是难缠的对手，比赛在下周日凌晨进行。
Stuart Big and Mark Ho Fu, that word I started to use maybe too much, redoubtable, two redoubtable customers there in the early hours of next Sunday morning.
这场比赛绝对有可能非常精彩，尤其是如果他们发挥出色的话，我听说特鲁姆普和卢卡这周状态不错。
And this is an absolute potential cracker, especially if they play well, and I saw someone that Tepcaya and Luca play well this coming week.
他们俩碰上了。
They got each other.
卢卡·布雷切尔和特鲁姆普都是新面孔。
Luca Boussell, Tepcaya are new.
所以，快来关注这场比赛吧。
So roll up, roll up for that.
那是下周日早上。
That's next Sunday morning.
我还看好另一场，下周日中午加里·威尔逊对阵斯坦·穆迪和萨姆·克雷吉。
Another one I like the look of Gary Wilson next Sunday lunchtime, and Stan Stan Moody against Sam Craigie.
当然，克雷吉在贝尔法斯特的表现非常出色。
Craigie, of course, having just such a good run-in Belfast.
那场比赛在下周日中午。
That's next Sunday lunchtime.
抱歉，我没能把所有精彩的比赛都挑出来。
Sorry for not taking all the good ones.
轮到你了。
Over to you.
你确实有点。
You have a little bit.
穆迪。
Moody.
太疯狂了。
It's crazy.
这个我也注意到了，还有，很明显，普里西拉对阵泰普杰尔。
Caught my eye as well, and obviously, Priscilla against Teptjeir.
普里西拉·奥唐纳也是，他对国防部的战绩很糟糕。
I mean, Priscilla's O'Donnell as well, he's got a stinking record against the Ministry of Defence.
他特别讨厌这个对手。
He hates it.
所以泰普杰尔会更适合他的打法。
So Teptjeir will be playing more his kind of game.
所以这场比赛值得期待。
So, that's one to look forward to.
还有凯伦，他在贝尔法斯特夺冠后，要对阵本赛季排名靠后的优秀选手之一，利亚姆·海菲尔德。
And and Kyren coming off his win in Belfast against one of the better players this season from down the ranking, Liam Haighfield.
他在资格赛中表现很好，还打进了英国锦标赛的半决赛。
He's been very good in the qualifiers and, you know, that run to the semis of the British.
所以这对凯伦来说是个早期的考验，然后还有很多外卡轮比赛，对吧？
So that's a test for Kyren early on there, and then there's a load of sort of wild card rounds, isn't there?
不过还有一场，其实是最早的，周六早上，如果你周六凌晨一点半还醒着的话，利亚姆·戴维斯对阵乔伊·朗，也非常非常精彩。
But another one, first up actually, Saturday morning, if you're ready at half past one in the morning on Saturday, Liam Davies against Joey Long, also very, very nice.
所以你可以……
So you could...
如果你熬夜了或者起得特别早，你可以双开直播……
If you stayed up or you've got up incredibly early, you can double stream...
双屏看吉米·怀特对塞尔比，还有乔伊·朗对利亚姆·戴维斯。
Double screen Jimmy White Selby and Joey Long, Liam Davies.
所以，是啊，如果你那个时间还在看，祝你好运。
So, yeah, good luck to you if you're there at that time.
嗯，我经常在社交媒体上说……
Well, I often sell social media that...
因为我经常发一些很晚的播客什么的，我会说如果你是轮班工人，或者晚上出去玩，或者你有点疯疯癫癫的，这个正适合你。
Because I often put things up late, you know, pods and what have you, and I say, you know, if you're a shift worker or a night out or you're going around the bend, this is perfect for you.
人们……
People...
这话说得有点不礼貌啊，老兄。
That's a bit that's a bit rude, mate.
然后我就说，别担心。
Then I say, don't worry.
这三种情况我都占，所以我是在说自己。
I fit into all three categories, so I am talking about myself.
这样一来，就没那么不礼貌了。
That that that makes it a little bit less rude.
菲尔，我们很期待周六即将全面展开的锦标赛，另外，我们还得说说斯诺克界的其他新闻。
Phil, we look forward to the tournament very much underway on on Saturday, and we should also say some more news lines from the world of snooker.
尼尔·罗伯逊凭借世界排名第三的成绩，入围了冠军中的冠军赛。
Neil Robertson's in the field for the champion of champions due to his world ranking of number three.
那场比赛的阵容真是豪华。
What a lineup for that tournament.
太棒了。
That's fabulous.
比赛将于11月9日星期一正式开始。
Underway on Monday, November 9.
我们有一些Q巡回赛的消息要告诉你。
We got some Q tour news for you.
最近的一站比赛，杰森·弗格森其实在……提到过这个。
The latest event, Jason Ferguson was talking about this actually in...
在德国奥伯豪森，他跟我说的。
To me in Oberhausen in Germany.
他当时……
He was he was...
杰森可是个彻头彻尾的斯诺克人，对吧？
He's a snooker man through and through, isn't he, Jason?
他看起来特别兴奋。
I mean, he he was looking through excited.
他给我看了……的比赛结果。
He's showing me the results from the...
来自奥伯豪森，我喜欢这样，他理应如此。
From Oberhaus, and I like that, as he should.
然后，这是从WPBSA网站上抄下来的。
And, this is a copy from the WPBSA website then.
莱利·鲍威尔以四比一击败马克·劳埃德，赢得了本赛季在德国奥伯豪森举行的第三届WPBSA Q Tour赛事。
Riley Powell defeated Mark Lloyd four one to win the third WPBSA q tour event of the season in Alburhussen in Germany.
这位18岁的威尔士选手在来自33个国家的153名选手中脱颖而出，赢得了欧洲大陆有史以来规模最大的Q Tour赛事，这真是太棒了。
The 18 year old Welshman won through a field of 153 players from 33 countries, isn't that smashing, in the biggest, ever q two event stage in Mainland Europe.
鲍威尔成为了继桑德森·拉姆和亚伦·布塞蒂尔之后，本赛季第三位不同的冠军。
And, he became Powell, the third different champion of the campaign following Sanderson Lam and Aaron Bussettil.
但你会比我更沮丧，我知道，关于，是的，这是一项全球性的运动，但我希望它更全球化一些。
But you get frustrated some more than I do, I know, about, yes, it's a global sport, but I wish it was a bit more of a global sport.
有33个国家参加，这可不是闹着玩的。
With 33 countries, that's not to be sneezed at.
确实。
Definitely.
那里看起来非常棒，真是了不起的努力。
It looks looks superb there, and a great effort.
莱利·鲍威尔已经活跃了一段时间了。
Riley Powell has been knocking around for a while.
他不久前参加了一场单局限时赛，看起来非常年轻。
He he was at a shootout a little while ago, and he looked incredibly young.
他现在依然非常年轻。
He still is incredibly young.
他才18岁。
He's 18.
我知道他在南威尔士地区打过球，那里涌现了很多优秀的球员。
I know he's he's played in that South Wales area with all those great players coming through.
他比那些已经在巡回赛上赢球的选手稍微落后一点，但他很快就会想加入他们的行列。
He's just a little bit behind those other guys who are on tour now winning matches, but he'll he'll be wanting to join them very soon.
如果你能在那样一个参赛人数众多、大多数选手经验比他丰富的比赛中夺冠，那是一个非常积极的信号。
And if you can win a tournament like that with that amount of players, most more experienced than him, then it's a very positive sign.
我也经常看他在900赛里打球。
I've seen him playing in the 900 a fair bit as well.
他在业余巡回赛上非常活跃。
You know, he's very busy on the amateur circuit.
所以，真的非常恭喜他，我不知道这是否能让他进入……
So, yeah, huge congratulations to him, and I don't know if if that gets him in...
我觉得这可能会让他进入英国锦标赛的资格赛。
I think that might get him in the UK Championship Qualifies.
所以，对他来说那是个很好的机会。
So, yeah, great chance for him there.
那里真是个很好的锻炼地方，对吧？
You know, it's a great learning ground down there, isn't it?
有利亚姆·戴维斯、马克·威廉姆斯，当然还有李·沃克和杰克逊·佩奇。
With Liam Davies and and Mark Williams, obviously, and Lee Walker and Jackson Page.
他会得到很好的培养。
You know, he'll he'll be brought up right.
就是这个感觉。
That's the vibe.
你肯定会的。
You absolutely like you will.
菲尔，我们刚看了一场大赛，对吧，世界女子斯诺克巡回赛？
Well, Phil, we saw a big event, didn't we, the World Women's Snooker Tour?
我知道我们几期前就提过这件事。
I know we we teed it up a couple of episodes ago.
现在我们来揭晓结果吧。
Let's let's give you the outcome.
澳大利亚女子公开赛，第三次由On Yee夺冠，比赛在悉尼的Mounties俱乐部举行，那个地方如果你懂斯诺克的话，应该经常听说。
The Australian Women's Open was won for the third time by On That was at the the very good Mounties Club in Sydney that you hear a lot about if you know your snooker.
On Yee在决赛中以四比三击败了Mink Nutra。
On Yee beat Mink Nutra at four three in the final.
我看了比分，因为比赛太精彩了。
I looked at the scoring because it was cracking.
其实我也稍微看了一点比赛。
I looked a tiny bit of the action as well, actually.
温妮先赢了两局，以2比0领先。
On Yee went two nil up.
明克·努查特连赢三局，以3比2反超。
Minkling stormed with three frames in a row for a three two lead.
温妮打出单杆81分，将比分追成3比3平，随后又以单杆57分拿下决胜局。
Onye made a break of 81 to level and make it to three three, and then she won the decider as well with the aid of a break of 57.
所以恭喜温妮在澳大利亚赢得这项重要赛事。
So congratulations to On Yee winning that big event in Australia.
所有新闻和结果都可以在世界女子斯诺克巡回赛的网站上看到。
All the news and results on the world women's snooker tour website.
菲尔，我想我们差不多该进入其他话题了。
Phil, I think we might be around to any other business time.
我在Radio Snooker上忙着做采访。
I've been very busy on Radio Snooker with the interviews on there.
让我告诉你这些台词。
Let me tell you the lines.
我早些时候提到马克·威廉姆斯，谈到分级制度。
I mentioned Mark Williams a bit earlier talking about the tiered system.
他对资格赛也很不看好。
He's also very down on qualifiers.
我不知道你是否想对此说点什么。
I don't know if maybe you you want a word on that.
我其实也和杰森·弗格森谈过这件事。
I actually spoke to Jason Ferguson about that as well.
这很有趣，因为当你在贝尔法斯特时，那是个大型赛事。
You know, it is interesting because when you're in Belfast, it's a big event.
它有分量，观众多，场面大，而且每个人都觉得杰森……
It's got gravitas, good crowds, big occasion, and everyone's taught Jason's...
当然，杰森的工作就是为斯诺克说好话。
It's Jason's job to talk up snooker, of course.
这是一项蓬勃发展的运动。
It's a thriving sport.
我们这项运动正在蓬勃发展。
We're a booming sport.
这有点像，嗯，如果发展得这么好，那为什么我们还要搞这么多资格赛呢？
It's a little bit like, well, if it's so booming, then why are we having all these qualifiers?
这也是马克·威廉姆斯想表达的意思。
That's the spirit of what Mark Williams is saying as well.
那里没有观众……
With no crowds there, you know, in...
在莱斯特很多时候，很多球员对此感到沮丧。
A lot of the time in Leicester, and a lot of the players are getting frustrated by it.
马克认为所有球员都应该在主赛场打比赛。
You know, Mark thinks all the players should play at the the the main the main venue.
这……
It's...
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