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好了，各位。
Alright, you guys.
这将是那种‘各国代表见面会’环节。
It's gonna be one of those meet the nations.
就像周一那样，但今天是周二，我们来连线Casey Sepich。
It's it's like Monday, but it's Tuesday, and we're calling Casey Sepich.
希望我名字念对了。
Hopefully, I got that right.
我也不确定我有没有做到。
I don't know if I did.
我们给她打个电话就知道了。
We'll find out when we give her a call.
这个播客很短，就是随便找个听我们节目的听众聊聊，多了解对方一点。这样以后聚会、比赛的时候，大家能互相知道些事情。
What this is is a short little podcast where we just call somebody that listens to the to the show here for whatever reason and get to know them a little bit better so that when we have get togethers and when we have races and stuff like that, that we know stuff about each other.
如果你想参加，给我发邮件到 tenjunkmiles@gmail.com。
So if you wanna do one of these, email me at tenjunkmiles@gmail.com.
如果你已经给我发过邮件了，你就在名单上。我们会一直继续，直到名单上的人都采访完，然后我们就会暂停一阵子。
If you've already emailed me, you're on the list, and we're gonna keep going until the list is done, then we're gonna go on hiatus.
我名字上有，一个、两个、三个、四个、五个、六个人。
I have one, two, three, four, five, six people on the list.
所以一个半月之后，如果你们还不主动报名，我就要暂停一阵子了。
So month and a half from now, I'm gonna be taking a break if you guys don't step up.
我知道还有很多人都没在名单上。
I know there's a lot of people that aren't on the list.
快来报名吧。
So get on the list.
快来报名吧。
Get on the list.
快来报名吧。
Get on the list.
快来报名吧。
Get on the list.
今天是最后一天，注册比赛可以享受九折优惠。
And today's the last day to sign up with the 10% off the, races.
所有比赛都适用。
All races.
优惠码是 TJM, 10Badger, 102026。
TJM, 10Badger, 102026 is the code.
所以如果你现在注册，价格绝对是最便宜的。
So if you if you this is the cheapest you'll ever get.
接下来只会越来越好。
It's only going up from here.
不过现在，咱们就叫Casey Sep Sep bitch吧。
But for now, let's call Casey Sep Sep bitch.
Sep bitch。
Sep bitch.
就Casey，我们这么叫她。
Just Casey, we'll call her.
我不知道。
I don't know.
Casey S？
Casey s?
邮件上是这么写的。
That's what the email says.
十英里垃圾路。
Ten Junk Miles.
别泄露你的个人信息。
Not to give away your personal information.
十英里垃圾里程。
Ten Junk Miles.
垃圾垃圾里程。
Junk Junk Miles.
里程。
Miles.
垃圾里程。
Junk Miles.
你好。
Hi.
如果您留下姓名和来电原因，我会看看这个人是否方便接听。
If you record your name and reason for calling, I'll see if this person is available.
喂？
Hello?
喂？
Hello?
喂？
Hello?
谢谢。
Thanks.
请别挂断，继续在线等待。
Please stay on the line.
如果那能让我
If that gets me
通过的话。
through.
喂？
Hello?
你好。
Hello.
你好吗？
How are you?
挺好的。
Good.
你呢？
How are you?
看来，我说了三遍“喂”就足够通过你这复杂的筛选流程了。
Evidently, my saying hello three times was was adequate to get by your complicated screening process here.
嗯，我看到它在筛选来电，所以就直接接了。
Well, I I saw that it was screening a call, and so I just went ahead and took it.
哦，好的。
Oh, okay.
你冒了个险。
You took you took a chance.
我没有。
I don't.
我确实冒了。
I did.
我在芝加哥冒了个险。
I took a chance on Chicago.
我保证不向你推销任何东西，也不会试图向你推销任何东西。
I promise not to sell you anything or try to sell you anything.
走着瞧吧。
We'll see.
你的姓怎么念？
How do I say your last name?
Sepich。
Sepich.
我觉得我念得差不多了。
I think I was close.
是的，是的。
I do I do.
只要你不念成“渗漏”，我都不介意。
As long as you don't say seepage, I don't care.
不会。
No.
不会。
Nope.
不会。
Nope.
不是渗水。
Not seepage.
然后这张照片看起来你当时在波塔沃米。
And then this picture looks like you were at Potawatomi in this picture.
差不多。
Close.
那张是在法姆代尔拍的。
That one was Farmdale.
Farmdale。
Farmdale.
所以你们大概也在同一个帐篷里吧。
So you're down there at the same tent probably.
对。
Yes.
他们可能是从别的地方借来的那个帐篷。
They probably loan the tent from the other place.
哦，我不知道他们会不会那样做。
Oh, I don't know if they do that or not.
不奇怪。
Wouldn't surprise.
很可能。
Probably.
我倒是不意外。
Wouldn't surprise me.
我也不意外。
It wouldn't surprise me.
不过那个在Farmdale的家伙，他根本就不是那里的人，对吧？
But the Farmdale guy, he's not even from there, right?
他是不是住在亚利桑那还是什么地方？
Doesn't he live in like Arizona or something?
是的，他现在是住那儿，但他本来就是这里的人。
Now, he does but he was from here.
对。
Yeah.
原本是。
Originally.
对。
Yeah.
因为我记得他。
Because I remember his.
对。
Yeah.
他爸爸那年竞选了，他没出现，只有他爸爸。
His dad ran the other other year and and he wasn't there, just his dad.
好。
Okay.
我想那可能是在我来之前的事了。
I think that may have been before my time.
不是。
No.
不对。
No.
那是前几年的事了。
This was, a couple years ago.
好像是他爸跑的那个波塔沃米赛道。
Like, his dad ran potawatomi.
哦，他真的去了？
Oh, he did?
对。
Yeah.
我当时就想，你居然在这儿。
And I was like, you're here.
你家孩子呢？
Where's your kid?
有点奇怪。
It was kinda weird.
不过，我们扯远了。
Anyway, we're ahead of ourselves.
我现在是在哪里给你打电话？
Where am I calling you?
你在哪里？
Where are you located?
我在伊利诺伊州的埃尔帕索。
I'm in El Paso, Illinois.
那是在哪里？
So where is that?
不知道。
No.
我都没听说过埃尔帕索。
I've never even heard of El
伊利诺伊州的埃尔帕索。
Paso, Illinois.
对。
Yeah.
不是的。
No.
没多少人听说过那里。
Not too many people have.
从法默代尔往布卢明顿方向再往北走的话，大概四十分钟左右。
It's probably about forty minutes away from Farmdale or so if you go towards Bloomington but then north.
所以我离芝加哥其实比法默代尔或者波塔瓦托米更近。
So I'm actually closer to Chicago than Farmdale or Potawatomi are.
咱们算是伊利诺伊中部地区吗？
We'll call it Central Illinois?
对。
Yeah.
我们算是中部。
We're Central.
这么说也对。
That's fair.
对。
Mhmm.
那你在伊利诺伊中部做什么工作呢？
And what do you do for work down there in Central Illinois?
嗯，我是听力学家。
Well, I am an audiologist.
那是做什么的？
So what does that mean?
我是看听力和平衡问题的医生。
I'm a hearing and balance doctor.
不知道你还记不记得，很久以前你得了BPPV，当时我很生气，因为你的医生或什么人告诉你它会自己好，我就发了封邮件。
So I don't know if you remember, but way back in the day when you had BPPV, I was getting really upset that your doctor or somebody had told you that it would just go away on its own, and I sent an email.
BPPV是什么？
What's the BPPV?
就是那些耳石在你脑袋里移位，然后引发的眩晕。
The BPPV, the when the crystals got jarred in your head and The vertigo.
眩晕。
Vertigo.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
我当时对此挺介意的。
I was getting all salty about it.
它后来确实好了。
It it did eventually go you.
是的。
Yeah.
但这个方法特别简单。
But it's so simple.
就像我们把你翻来翻去，当天就好了。
It, like, we roll you around and it's gone that day.
所以嘛。
So.
哦，他们根本没把我翻来翻去。
Oh, nobody rolled me around at all.
对，他们应该这么做的。
Yeah, they should've.
他们当时应该把你翻来翻去的。
They should've rolled you around.
他们翻动我是为了做测试。
They rolled me around to test it.
当天就能去掉。
Rid of it same day.
对。
Yeah.
是的。
Yeah.
一旦拿到阳性结果，你就继续滚动，把它彻底清除掉。
And then once you get the positive result, then you just keep rolling and you get rid of it.
不过，效果没持续多久。
Well, it didn't last that long.
所以嘛。
So.
对，我现在想起来还是有点介意。
Yeah, it's still, I still got salty about it.
是的。
Yeah.
那么，这就是你给人治疗的那种情况吗？
So then, is was that the kind of thing that you treat people for?
比如。
Like.
对，我以前是，直到我的设备坏了，他们还没给我换新的。
Yeah, I used to until my equipment broke and they haven't replaced it.
所以现在，我只做听力方面的。
So now, I just do hearing.
所以，比如，如果我需要做听力测试，或者想做听力检查，或者，你知道，听力有问题，就找你。
So, like, if I need a hearing test or I want a hearing checkup or want to, you know, have a problem with my hearing, you're the person.
是的。
Yep.
就是我。
I'm the person.
好的。
Okay.
我去听演唱会的时候需要戴耳塞吗？
Should I be wearing those earplugs when I go to concerts?
当然。
Absolutely.
好的。
Okay.
那我以后都这么做了。
I'm gonna keep doing that.
这难道成了老年人的专属吗？不是吧。
That that that become an old person thing, no.
我之前听到一位音乐圈的人接受采访，他说听力这东西是有上限的，我不想为了听演唱会把耳朵给震坏了。你知道的，比如我去看枪花乐队，我肯定觉得他们演出会很棒，但问题是，我真的需要100%清晰地听到每一个音符才能享受这场演出吗？
I I I heard someone give an interview, someone that was in the music industry, and they said, there's only so much I can hear, and I don't wanna blow my ears on you you know, like I'm going to see the Guns N' Roses and I'm I'm sure they're gonna be great and everything but like, do I really need to hear them like a 100% in order to enjoy them?
不需要。
No.
所以，我还是会去现场。
So, I'll go.
对。
No.
我还是用耳塞吧。
I'll go earphones.
你知道，因为总有一天，我想在客厅里轻轻放点舒缓的爵士乐听听，那时候我还得能听得见呢。
You know, because then someday, I'm gonna wanna listen to like some smooth jazz like softly in my living room and I wanna be able to hear.
没错。
Exactly.
如果你想在70岁时还能听清枪花乐队的歌，现在就得把音量调小点。
And if you want to hear Guns N' Roses when you're 70, listen to them more quietly now.
没错。
There you go.
这正是我在努力做的。
That's that's what I'm working on.
我也是这么想的。
That's what I figure.
我在努力保护我的耳朵。
I'm trying to preserve my ears.
没错。
Exactly.
但是
But
我觉得没别人这么做。
I don't think anybody else is doing that.
我担心的是，你知道，人们戴着耳机，把音量开到最大，总有一天大家都会聋的。
I think I'm I'm worried that you know people are with the headphones and they're just cranking everything up and everyone's gonna be deaf someday.
不过我觉得现在的人比以前更注意这个了。
I do think people are getting better about it than they used to be though.
在演唱会上，是的。
In concerts, yeah.
我看到戴耳机、戴耳塞的人比以前多多了。
I do see more people with headphones, ear earplugs than I ever saw.
对，没错。
But Right.
我觉得我们就是有个习惯，总想把音量调大。
I think that we just have the tendency to just always turn everything up.
一直往上加，加，加，加，加。
Up, up, up, up, up.
嗯。
Mhmm.
你知道吗？
You know?
是的。
Yep.
我最看不惯的就是有人戴着AirPods去割草。
The the thing I hate the most is watching people mow with their AirPods in.
哦。
Oh.
那太糟糕了。
That's so bad.
因为那是同时做两件事吗？
Because it's like two things at once?
没错。
Exactly.
你得把音量调得很大才能盖过割草机的声音。
You have to turn those up so loud to hear them over the mower.
所以，干脆别这么做。
So, just don't do it.
有意思。
Interesting.
好吧。
Okay.
或者买个电动割草机。
Or get an electric mower.
我没时间给每个人都配助听器。
I don't have enough time to fit everybody with a hearing aid.
哦，对。
Oh, yeah.
不过，现在我知道该找谁了。
Well, but now I know who to call.
是的。
You do.
如果你愿意大老远跑过来的话。
If you'd want to drive all the way down here.
嗯，我是说，我经常
Well, I mean, I go
去那边。
down there a lot.
我是说，我去那边办事。
I mean, I go there for stuff.
所以，我宁愿开车去看一个我认识的医生，也不愿去看一个陌生人。
So, I mean, I'd rather, I'd rather drive to see a doctor that I know than than go to see a stranger.
太好了。
Perfect.
是的。
Yeah.
所以，我打算把你记下来。
So, I'm going to put you down.
就这样。
There you go.
等我的听力不行的时候。
When my hearing goes.
但我不会的，因为我在好好照顾它。
But I won't because I'm taking care of it.
好的。
Alright.
给我讲讲你跑步的故事吧。
Tell me your little running story.
就是，你知道的，发生了什么，你是怎么得到他的？
Your your you know, what happened and how'd you get him?
你是怎么走到今天的？
How'd you get to where you are today?
这有点是偶然发生的。
It kind of happened accidentally.
我和我的闺蜜们决定每年去芝加哥参加热巧克力跑，就为了找个借口来个女生周末，但那时候我们唯一跑的就是那儿的五公里。
My girlfriends and I decided we were gonna do hot chocolate every year up in Chicago just for the excuse to have a girls weekend, but that was the only time we would run was the five k there.
然后同一群女孩决定，既然我们要做那个，我们也应该参加圣犹大跑。
And then the same group of girls decided, well, if we're gonna do that, we should also do Saint Jude.
所以我们开始参加圣犹大跑的一个卫星赛。
So we started doing one of the satellite runs for Saint Jude.
哪一个？
Which one?
就是坎顿到皮奥里亚的那场。
The Canton to Peoria one.
好的。
Okay.
离我现在住的地方很远，但离我们以前一起上学的地方很近，那是很久以前的事了。
Nowhere near where I am now, but that's close to where we all went to school together way back in the day.
所以我们就选了那场。
So that's the one we picked.
我们跑了好几年，后来不幸的是，另一群女士以为我真的会跑步。
So we did that for several years, and then unfortunately for another group of women, they thought that meant I was actually a runner.
于是她们说服我加入了她们的拉德诺越野队，因为她们觉得我会跑步，能帮到队伍。
And so they talked me into joining their Radnor trail team because they thought I was a runner and that I would help the team.
我根本不会跑步。
I'm not a runner.
我一年只跑两次。
I was only running twice a year.
所以我跑得并不快。
So I wasn't very fast.
简单来说，为了备战越野跑——因为我以前从没跑过越野——我去跑了蓝雪佛兰那条线。
But I guess longer story short, in an effort to prepare for the trail because I'd never run a trail before, I went out and did blue Chevy.
不知道你们有没有听说过这条线，反正就是在Farmdale那边。
I don't know if you know that one, but that's out where, yeah, where Farmdale is.
我跑了蓝雪佛兰之后，就彻底爱上越野跑了。
So I did blue Chevy and fell in love with trail running.
从那之后我就彻底迷上了所有和越野跑相关的活动。
So then I just became addicted to anything trail.
我参加了太多次Ragnars接力赛，现在想想都觉得当初太拼了，之后我还决定开始挑战更长距离的越野赛。
I did far too many Ragnars to be comfortable with and then decided I was gonna start doing these longer trail races.
那你跑过的最长距离是多少
So what's the longest
呢？
you've done?
最长跑过多少？
What's the longest?
我跑了威斯康星那边的Midwest States，一百公里。
I did Midwest States, 100 k up in Wisconsin.
很不错。
Very nice.
今年还会再去那里吗？
And are you going back there again this year?
不会。
No.
绝对不会再去了。
Absolutely not.
好吧。
Okay.
为什么呀？
Why not?
我是说，风景确实很美，但那次比赛我跑掉了三个脚趾甲，一路上每踩到一个树根或石头我都在骂。
I mean, it was beautiful, but I lost three toenails that race, and I was cursing every root and rock I hit along the way.
你知道，就是那种你应该从低谷里走出来的感觉，你懂吧？
I was you know, that you know how you're supposed to come out of that low?
我压根就没走出来。
I never came out of the low.
我一直气到最后。
I was angry to the very end.
跑完之后，Michelle问我感觉怎么样。
When I was done, Michelle was like, how was it?
我说，明早再问我吧。
Ask me in the morning.
结果到了第二天早上，我还是不想回答。
And then in the morning, I was still not ready to answer.
所以……
So
所以你说情况总会好转，这并不一定对。
So when you say it always gets better, that that's not true.
并不是说事情总会变好。
It's not doesn't always get better.
确实不一定。
Not always.
也许如果我当时能拿到100分，就能从那个低谷里走出来，但我怀疑可能性不大。
Maybe if I had gone a 100, I would have come out of that low, but I doubt it.
那现在你得回去再跑一次100公里了。
Well, so now you gotta go back and do the 100.
对吧？
Right?
对，我也不确定。
Yeah, I don't know.
那天我还给自己留了一条语音留言，求自己以后再也不干这种事了。
I sent myself a voicemail that day begging myself to never do it again.
我没打那个求助热线。
I didn't call the bonk line.
我是给自己留了条语音留言。
I called myself.
原来如此。
Okay.
那这就说得通了。
Well, that that makes sense then.
那现在，你打算跑一百英里的比赛吗？
So, now, you, are you going to do a 100 mile race?
是的。
Yes.
我今年计划跑一场，但我不想说是哪一场。
I am planning on one this year but I don't want to say where.
好的。
Okay.
好吧，我们不会逼你说出来，但我很期待听到你成功完成的消息。
Well, we won't we won't make you say it but I look forward to to to hearing that it happened.
那你有没有参加过更多的比赛？
And have you ever done more viruses?
没有。
No.
哦，你应该多参加一些。
Oh, you should.
那挺好的。
That'd be fine.
我知道。
I know.
我们没有任何根基。
We don't have any roots.
我保证。
I promise.
一个都没有。
Not one.
没有，真的没有屋顶。
There's not a there's not no roof.
整条小路上一个树根都没有。
Not one root on the whole trail.
我向你保证。
I promise you.
我知道。
I know.
这也是我还没报名的一个原因，因为那不是小路。
That's one of the reasons I haven't signed up for one yet because it's not trail.
那是一条小路。
It is a trail.
我
I
我一般不太喜欢铺装路面。
don't like paved typically.
这不是铺装路面。
It's not paved.
但这是不是那种……因为它是铁路步道。
But is it like the because it's a rail trail.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Right.
好。
Okay.
那它是什么样的？
So is it like what?
上面是碎石吗？
Peak gravel up there?
不是。
Nope.
就是泥土、草，可能有点碎石，但看起来像……哦。
It's like dirt, grass, maybe a little bit of gravel, but it looks like a Oh.
看起来有点像吉普车走的那种路。
It looks like a Jeep road kinda.
好的。
Okay.
那没什么特别的。
It does nothing.
那有可能。
Possibly then.
对。
Yeah.
确实，不是你想的那种路。
It does it's not what you're it's not what you're thinking then.
好的。
Alright.
我还没报名，但我答应了一位朋友，今年打算参加那个二十四小时的活动。
I will say I did I haven't signed up for it yet, but I promised one of my friends that I will do, I think, twenty four hour dots this year.
我只是还没去注册而已。
I just haven't registered yet.
明白了。
Okay.
其实我们挺喜欢你们临时才报名的，因为这样我们就得重新统计所有奖项，你知道的，这对我们规划下一年的工作特别有帮助。
Well, we we like it when you register last minute because then, then we then we then we have to go recount all the awards and, you know, it's like, it's perfect for, you know, planning our
那就这么定了。
Let's do it.
之类的安排。
Year and stuff.
我很快就去办。
I'll do it soon.
我得把跑步花的钱分散开来，这样我老公就不会一下子注意到那么多。
I have to spread out how much money I put out for running so that my husband doesn't notice it all at once.
哦，这招不错。
Oh, that's a good tick.
你应该办一张专门的信用卡，比如一张秘密的卡。
You should get a a special credit card, like a secret one.
就把它叫做商务信用卡，但确保是用你的名字办的。
Just call it like a business credit card, but then just making sure it's in your name.
也许可以这样，信用卡公司才不管卡上写什么呢。
Maybe put see, here was you can the credit card company doesn't give a shit what's on the card.
所以你可以写上你的名字，然后再加上公司名称，他们公司不会知道的。
So you could put your name and then put the name of the company on it, and and they'll the company won't know.
他们的记录里不会有这个。
It's not on their record.
然后你老公就会以为那是公司的卡。
And then your husband will just think it's a company card.
好的。
Okay.
我会照做的。
I'll do that.
好的。
Okay.
我给你发了张步道的照片，就是让你对步道有个大概的概念。
I sent you a picture of the trail just just so you have an idea of what the trail
看起来是这样。
looks like.
我刚刚回复了你，所以你一会儿就能收到，你会看到的。我是说，不是你的问题，不同的是它并不统一。
I just responded to your so you'll you'll get that and you'll see it's I mean, it's not you the the thing that's different about it is it's not uniform.
有些地方草特别多。
There are places where there's a ton of grass.
有些地方泥土比较多。
There's places where there's more dirt.
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有些地方是混合的，但总体来说不是那种均匀的碎石路面。
There's places where there's, you know, a mixture, but it's generally not a uniform peak gravel.
我明白你说的是什么意思。
I know what you're talking about.
情况并不是那样的。
It's not like that at
对。
Mhmm.
这种组合特别有趣。
It's a it's a very fun mix.
好的。
Okay.
那你现在在为什么比赛做准备呢？
And what do you what do you what are you training for now?
看来是二十四小时耐力赛。
Last twenty four hour evidently.
其实我训练方面不太擅长，不过说真的，我最近正式报名的是明年去Ball State。
Well I'm I don't really I'm not good at training I should say, but I did the most recent thing I signed up for officially is Ball State for next year.
那挺好的嘛。
Well, there you go.
你不是之前一直主要练路跑吗？
Didn't you just keep them about pavement?
对，确实是这样。
Yeah, I know I did.
你怎么回事啊？
What what's wrong with you?
我不喜欢跑公路，但我还是报了Vol Day的赛。
I don't like pavement but I signed up for the Vols Day.
希望路上别有太多碎石子。
Hope you don't have a lot of peak gravel.
我其实更喜欢越野跑。
I don't I I like trail.
哦，在Vols旁边。
Oh, by side of the Vols.
嗯，我希望明年能真正向自己证明我有多讨厌自己。
Well, I'm hoping to really prove to myself how much I hate me next year.
所以。
So.
我觉得那种比赛肯定会让你给自己留很多语音留言。
I mean, that seems like the kind of race where you're definitely, you're going to send more than one voicemail to yourself.
哦，对。
Oh, yeah.
会有很多。
There will be lots of.
我到底怎么了？
What the hell is wrong with me?
我为什么要这么做？
Why did I do this?
太多事情了。
So many things.
太多事情都不对劲。
So many things are wrong.
对。
Yeah.
这……这从很多方面来说就是个馊主意。
That's that's just it's just a bad idea on a lot of levels.
我知道。
I know.
至少你意识到了。
At least you recognize it.
是的。
I do.
你是怎么知道这个“十英里垃圾跑”的？
How did you find out about this 10 Junk Miles?
我一直在想这个问题，我确定是在Citra Face那个群里看到的。
I I was thinking about that and I'm pretty sure it was in the Citra Face group.
就是中央伊利诺伊越野跑者那个群。
So, Central Illinois Trail Runners.
对。
Right.
是的。
Yeah.
所以我想几年前我在那里发了个帖子，问大家有没有推荐的跑步播客，因为我需要点东西来激励自己，然后这个好像是第一个被推荐给我的。
So I think I put out a feeler there a few years ago asking about running podcasts because I have to have something to motivate me, and I think this was the first one that was thrown out there.
所以……
So
它真的激励到你了吗？
Did it actually motivate you?
确实有。
It did.
我花了不少时间听你们聊，不过还没完全跟上进度。
I've spent a lot of time listening to you guys, but I have I'm not completely caught up yet.
没关系。
That's okay.
很高兴这能给你一些动力。
Well, I'm glad that it provided you some sense of motivation.
我们会继续努力
We'll aspire to
做得比那更多。
do more than that.
对。
Yeah.
我跑步的时候，要么听你们的播客，要么看那种擦边小说。
It's either your podcast or a smut book that I listen to while I'm out there.
所以
So
那还是选我们吧，别选那些擦边书了。
Well, choose us over the smut book.
你是怎么说服你老公的呀？
How did how did you get that past the husband?
他居然能接受看那种书，却对信用卡这么介意吗？
He's okay with smut books but not okay with credit cards?
当然啦，他其实挺支持的。
Of course, he is.
好的。
Okay.
毕竟每个人的喜好都不一样嘛。
Well, everybody's different.
有没有哪期播客节目是你特别喜欢的？
Did you have a podcast episode that you particularly liked?
哎呀，这个嘛。
Oh, gosh.
我昨天想记起名字来着，但那是其中一位同志。
I was trying to remember the name yesterday, but it was one of the comrades.
我不确定是在同志之前还是之后，但你在和一个女孩聊天，然后有个死猫的故事。
I don't know if it was before or after a comrades, but you were talking to a girl, and there was a dead cat story.
我当时在刷餐厅的墙，全程笑得停不下来。
And I was trying to paint my dining room, and I was just cackling the whole time.
太棒了。
It was amazing.
死猫。
Dead cat.
天哪。
Oh, man.
我都不记得了。
I don't even know.
总会有人记得的。
Someone's gonna remember.
不是我的那期，但就是那一集。
It's not me, but it was that episode.
我当时笑得停不下来。
I couldn't stop laughing.
你老公有没有参与那一集，还是说那是多人节目？
Did husband join the episode, or was it a a gang show?
我挺确定那是多人节目，因为我觉得是不是艾琳提起死猫的事？
I'm pretty sure it was a gang show because I think was it Erin who brought up a dead cat?
哦，那算是早期了。
Oh, that's early then.
所以这应该是早期的节目。
So this so this would be early.
我觉得可能是詹妮弗·辛顿，或者是娜塔莉·希尔德布兰德。
I think it would be Jennifer Hinton or it would be Natalie Hildebrand.
就是其中一位。
One of those.
不知怎么的，娜塔莉这个名字听起来挺对的。
For some reason, Natalie sounds right.
她带口音吗？
Did she have an accent?
是的。
Yes.
那我觉得就是娜塔莉了。
I think that's Natalie then.
对。
Yeah.
好的。
Okay.
我当时笑得不行。
I was cackling.
那集太棒了。
It was great.
我太喜欢了。
I love it.
好的。
Okay.
有没有哪个人是你一直希望我去采访的，这样你就能多了解他们一些？
Is there anybody that you always wish, I would interview so you could learn more about them?
我想不出有谁。
I can't think of anybody.
我试了又试，就是想不出来。
I tried and tried and I couldn't think.
除非你想请个名人来，如果他在场的话，我还能跟他调调情。
Unless you wanna get someone famous that I could flirt with if if he's there.
谁？
Who?
比如科林·法瑞尔。
Like Colin Farrell.
柯林·法瑞尔。
Colin Farrell.
好吧，我的意思是，我会把他列入名单。
Well, I mean, I'll put him on my list.
我不抱太大希望，但谁知道呢。
I don't I don't have high hopes but you never know.
我也不抱希望，但如果你真能请到他，我想在场。
Me neither but, you know, if you do land them, I wanna be there.
好的。
Okay.
如果我请到柯林·法瑞尔，如果你在听，欢迎来做客。
If I get Colin Farrell, if you're listening, come on down.
我相信他
I'm sure he
会的。
is.
对。
Yeah.
不过，谁知道呢。
Well, you never know.
你知道吗？
You know what?
到了我这个年纪，要是收到一封邮件，我一点都不会觉得意外。
At this point in my life, it would not shock me if I got an email.
亲爱的斯科特，我叫科林·费尔。
Dear Scott, my name is Colin Fair.
我是说，真的，这种事一点都不奇怪。
I do, you know, like, I it wouldn't be shocking.
我不是说他真的会这样，但我是说，像这样奇怪的事情发生过太多了，所以，你知道的，这不会是我人生中最奇怪的事。
I'm not saying that he does, but I mean, so many strange things have happened like that that, you know, it wouldn't it would not it wouldn't be the weirdest thing that's ever happened in my life.
那是肯定的。
That's for sure.
那会很酷。
That would be cool.
我爱你，科林。
I love you, Colin.
我不会太奇怪的。
I won't be too weird.
好的。
Okay.
对。
Yeah.
不过通常你这么说的时候，我们就知道你会很怪，因为每个太怪的人都是在他们太怪之前这么说的。
Usually, when you say that though, we know you're gonna be too like that that's what everybody who's too weird says right before they're too weird.
对吧？
Right?
我会是最怪的。
I'm gonna be the weirdest.
好的。
Alright.
说说你身上一件没人会相信的事。
Something about you that nobody would ever believe.
打死都不会信的那种。
Not in a million years.
哦，天哪。
Oh, shit.
我都忘了这个了。
I forgot about that one.
我的天啊。
Oh my gosh.
我不知道。
I don't know.
我身上这种事太多了。
I have so many things.
我儿子会记笔记。
My son takes notes.
他会打开笔记应用，记下我讲的另一个故事。
He keeps his notes app open for another story that I tell.
我不知道。
I don't know.
我做过很多工作，也有很多故事。
I've had so many jobs and I have so many stories.
我不知道。
I don't know.
也许重点就是你有很多很多故事。
Maybe that's the the thing is that you have tons and tons of stories.
没人会相信这一点。
No one ever believed that.
我不知道。
I don't know.
看起来像个完全正常的人。
Seem like a perfectly normal person.
我，我完全正常。
I I am perfectly normal.
这正是没人会相信的。
That's what nobody would believe.
我们就这么说吧。
We'll go with that.
好的。
Okay.
嘿，如果行得通，那就行得通。
Hey, if it works, it works.
好的，那如果我把你送到一个荒岛上呢？
Okay and then what about like if I were to send you to a desert island?
一本书、一张专辑和一部电影。
One book and one album and one movie.
你被这个问题难住了吧。
You're you're you're you're gassed by this.
我问过的340多个人，每个人都是这样。
Every single person the 340 some people I've asked this to.
你知道这个问题
You knew this question
要来了。
was coming.
我知道，我知道它要来了。
I own I know it's coming.
只是我知道其中一个我答不上来。
It's just that I know I don't have an answer for one of them.
所以唱片肯定是《紫环》。
So record obviously is gonna be Purple Ring.
必须是。
Has to be.
非常好。
Very nice.
毫无疑问。
No question.
我喜欢。
I like it.
那个我从来没怀疑过。
I've never questioned that one.
电影的话，我一直在犹豫，但我想我最终会选《傲慢与偏见》。
Movie, I'm back and forth, but I think I'm settling on Pride and Prejudice.
哎呀。
Ugh.
我知道。
I know.
抱歉。
I'm sorry.
我们从《紫雨》开始，
We went from Purple
然后跳到《傲慢与偏见》。
Rain to Pride and Prejudice.
这是怎么发生的？
How did that happen?
我也不知道。
I don't know.
但只要我一有机会独处，虽然不常有，可一旦有了，电视上放的就是那部电影。
But as soon as I get the house to myself, which doesn't happen often, but as soon as it does, that's the movie that goes on the TV.
所以，
So
好的。
Okay.
然后，哦，所以……
And then And Oh, so
对。
yeah.
你本来也可以在电影里放《紫雨》的。
You could've went purple
电影里也可以放《紫雨》。
rain in the movie too.
我是说
I mean
不，我不喜欢那部电影。
No, I don't love the movie.
对。
Yeah.
还行吧。
It's okay.
他们确实会放。
They do throw.
但如果我有这张专辑，我就很开心了。
But if I have the album, I'm happy.
那部电影里有一幕，他们把一个女人扔进垃圾桶。
They do throw a woman in a garbage can at one point in that movie.
每次看到那个场景，我都觉得，这真是经典。
Every time I see that, I'm just like, that's an age well.
一直把人扔进垃圾桶。
Keep me throwing people in garbage cans.
你在干什么？
What are you doing?
不，我想要，我想要那个选择。
No, I would like to, I would like the option.
也许我应该选那个，因为那样我就能看到莫里斯·戴了。
Maybe I should go with that one because then I can see Morris Day.
我确实喜欢莫里斯。
I do like Morris.
我看过他的现场演出。
I saw him live.
他非常棒。
He's great.
天哪。
Oh, gosh.
真希望我也能去看。
I wish I could have.
他年纪大了。
He's getting old.
他太厉害了。
He's amazing.
他不是，他是。
He's not, he, is.
他会休息一下，然后走到舞台边上，因为疼而皱起眉头。
He takes breaks and then he goes on the side of stage, and he he winces because he's hurting.
哎呀。
Aw.
是啊。
Yeah.
他这一生过得真的很苦很苦。
He's had a hard hard life.
不过他有一本好书。
He had a good book, though.
是啊。
Yeah.
是本好书。
It's a good book.
我不记得那个了。
I don't remember that.
就是里面某个地方有“时间”这个词。
It's it's the word time in it somewhere.
挺短的。
It's pretty short.
读起来真的很不错。
It was a really good read.
那是他写的一本很好的传记。
It was a nice biography by him.
所以如果
So if
你没问题的话。
you're Okay.
如果你想找本书读，那本就很不错。
If you're looking for a book, that's that's a good one.
那正好。
Which perfect.
那我就带那本书去岛上吧，因为我一直定不下来选哪本。
That's the book I'm taking to the island then because I can't I couldn't settle on a book.
莫尔斯的自传。
Morse days autobiography.
好的。
Alright.
嗯，每次我想到这个问题，我都想不出哪一本，因为我喜欢的书总是属于系列作品，而系列书没法只带一本过去。
Well, so every time I think about this question, I cannot think of one because I everything I love is always gonna be in a series, and I can't take a series.
所以我就想想自己小时候或者青少年时期反复读的那本书，但我觉得现在作为成年人再读，感觉肯定不一样了。
So so then I think about a book I read over and over again when I was a teenager or a kid, but I don't think it would be the same now as an adult.
那我也不想带那本了。
So I don't wanna take that one either.
你读过布鲁姆的书吗？
Did you read Bloom books?
没读过。
No.
好像有人已经把它放 attic wall 上了。
Somebody's already attic wall.
哦，是吗？
Oh, do they?
真的吗？
Really?
那挺好的。
Good for them.
没有。
No.
完全没有。
Not at all.
没有。
No.
那是一本叫《阁楼墙后》的悲伤故事，讲的是一个很孤独的女孩，我大概读了它一百遍。
It was a sad book called Behind the Attic Wall about this girl who was just lonely, and I read that book probably a 100 times.
莫里斯·戴写的书叫《时光：放克音乐中的高贵人生》。
The book by Morris Day is called On Time, a princely life in funk.
好的，那我就选这本。
Alright, I'll take that one.
莫里斯·戴写的。
By Morris Day.
至少对我来说是新的。
At least it'll be new.
我是说，不可能那么新吧。
I mean, can't be that new.
2019年的。
Twenty nineteen.
嗯，我是说，对我来说是新的。
Well, I mean, new to me.
那是我买的时候。
That's when I purchased it.
可能比那还早。
It could be older than that.
好的。
Okay.
对，但对你来说会是新的。
Yeah, but it'll be new to you.
在荒岛上反复读一本书，你觉得要读多少遍才会开始怀疑自己，说，天哪，我是不是傻？
How many times through how many times on the desert island through do you think you get to where you say, god, am I stupid?
我为什么选了莫里斯·戴的书？
Why did I pick the Morris Day book?
我为什么不选别的？
Why didn't I pick something else?
比如，第三遍读的时候，第二遍读的时候，还是得读五遍才后悔？
Like, pick the third time through, the second time through, does it take you five times?
但总有一天，你会开始讨厌自己当初选了那本书。
But at some point, you're just gonna be like, you're gonna hate yourself for picking that.
我会
I'm gonna
我死在那岛上之前，肯定会恨死莫里斯·戴的。
hate Morris Day by the time I die on that island.
恨死莫里斯·戴。
Hate Morris Day.
他们会在荒岛上找到你的。
They're find you on the Desert Island.
他们会问，你想干什么？
They're gonna be like, what do wanna do?
然后你会说，除了去莫里斯·戴的演唱会，干什么都行。
And you're like, anything but go to a Morris Day concert.
干什么都行。
Anything.
好吧。
Alright.
那接下来，我们要玩问答游戏吗？
And then, are we going to play trivia?
我打算说不，因为我还没跟上。
I'm going to say no because I'm not caught up.
我甚至不知道会有什么样的问题。
I don't even know what kind of questions would be on there.
好的。
Okay.
好吧，你是连续第二个跳过的人，但是
Well, you're the second person in a row skipping But
对不起，大家。
I'm sorry, everyone.
我不能
I can't
帮你。
help you.
我一点也不会让你过关。
I wouldn't advance you at all.
不过这个我知道。
I know that, though.
对。
Yeah.
那这样的话，就没必要了。
Well, then there's no reason to that.
你明白吧？
You know?
不如你多给我们讲讲怎么更好地保护耳朵。
Instead, you can give us more tips about how to better protect our ears.
还有，我应该多久去检查一次听力？
And how often should I be going and having somebody test this?
其实不用那么频繁。
It's really not that often.
我知道现在可能有些听力学家在骂我，因为他们要靠每年的检查赚钱。
I know there are probably audiologists out there right now yelling at me because they need the money for annual tests.
但我告诉人们，当你的耳朵开始嗡嗡响时，我们就想给你做检查。
But I tell people, when your ears start ringing, we wanna test you.
当你出现耳鸣时，我们必须给你做检查，如果，天哪，这里有个重要情况。
When you get your tinnitus going, we have to test you if, oh my goodness, here's a big one.
如果你注意到听力突然变化，打电话给你的家庭医生，说，我突然听力下降了。
If you notice a sudden change in hearing, call your primary doctor and say, I have a sudden hearing loss.
我需要马上看听力专家。
I need to see an audiologist now.
别让他们说，嗯，可能是积液。
Don't let them say, well, it's probably fluid.
给你开点抗生素。
Here's some antibiotics.
一个月后再来。
Come back in a month.
如果还在，我们再转诊你。
If it's still there, then we'll send you.
因为到那时候，我们就没法治疗了。
Because by then, we can't treat it.
所以像这种突然的变化，要在四十八小时内去看听力师。
So any sudden change like that, get to an audiologist within forty eight hours.
好的。
Okay.
这是个好建议。
That's a good tip.
还有，要戴耳塞。
And use the ear earplugs.
对，要戴耳塞。
And use earplugs.
是的。
Yes.
好的。
Okay.
这就是我的计划。
That's that's what's my plan.
那你现在要回去上班了吗？
So now are you going back to work now?
不。
No.
我现在要去看医生。
I'm going to a doctor's appointment now.
好的。
Okay.
好吧，我可不想再犯一次HIPAA违规，所以我们就不多问了。
Well, I don't wanna create another HIPAA violation, so we we won't ask any questions about that.
不过
But
你又不是我的医生。
You're not my provider.
你不可能违反HIPAA的。
You can't violate HIPAA.
对。
Yeah.
那倒是真的。
That's true.
但我们喜欢这么说。
But we like to say it.
所以每次我都知道。
So every I know.
我们对什么事都这么说。
We say that about everything.
什么事都是HIPAA违规。
Everything's a HIPAA violation.
我知道。
I know.
而且你知道
And you know
还有什么？
what else?
医疗服务提供者让我抓狂。
Care provider drives me crazy.
因为身体的每个部位都有对应的医生，比如泌尿科医生。
For every part of the body that listens to 10 because there's there's like a urologist.
他总是给我发消息，还带着评论。
He he he's always messaging me with with comments.
所以我喜欢我们谈论自己身体的愚蠢话题，然后会有医生发消息告诉我们有多蠢。
So I I like the fact that we say stupid stuff about our bodies, and then we get doctors that send us messages about how stupid we are.
那真是极大的赞美。
That's that that that's a great compliment.
我们会把你一块一块地拼回去。
We're gonna put you back together piece by piece.
这就对了。
There you go.
好的。
Alright.
好吧，现在我有了一位听力学家，节目里的其他人也一样，我们巴杰尔见。
Well, now I got an audiologist and so does everybody else on the show, and we'll see you at the Badger.
我们下次见，最后一位。
We'll see you the last outstanding.
是的。
Yes.
大家再见
See you all
两周后见。
in two weeks.
那么
So
那太好了。
that's perfect.
天哪。
Oh my gosh.
是不是只有
Is it only
是不是
is it
只有两周后？
only two weeks later?
不是。
No.
比那更久。
It's longer than that.
是一个月。
It's a month.
是一个月。
It's a month.
一个月。
It's month.
对。
Yeah.
一个月。
A month.
给我
Give me
一个月。
a month.
哎呀。
Sheesh.
对。
Yeah.
好的。
Alright.
该训练了，虽然你平时不训练。
Time to train even though you don't train.
我不训练。
I don't train.
好的。
Alright.
我更差。
I'm worse.
好吧。
Okay.
祝你下午愉快。
Have a great afternoon.
好的。
Alright.
再见。
Bye.
谢谢。
Thank you.
你也是。
You too.
再见。
Bye.
别老拿我的耳机说事了，各位。
Stop picking on me for my head my headphones, guys.
我的耳塞。
My earplugs.
耳塞才是王道。
Earplugs are the way.
也别再往后靠飞机座椅了。
Stop reclining on those plane seats too.
想知道什么时候可以调座椅靠背吗？
You wanna know when you can recline?
永远都不行。
Never.
就是这个时间。
That's when.
当然，如果飞机上没其他人的话。
Well, if there's there's nobody else on the plane, obviously.
Jada，如果你往后靠压到别人了，那你这人可真够糟糕的。
If you're reclining on somebody, Jada, you're just you're a terrible person.
你这就有点过分了。
You're in trouble.
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