The Astrology Podcast - 分享占星运势故事 封面

分享占星运势故事

Sharing Astrology Transit Stories

本集简介

第350期是丹佛占星小组的一次聚会录音,与会者分享了自2020年初我们上一次聚会以来的两年间所经历的星象过渡故事,由占星师克里斯·布伦南主持。 丹佛占星小组成立于2008年5月,在2020年3月疫情爆发前,连续12年每月第二个星期六在水星咖啡馆举行聚会。 本次聚会于2022年4月16日在丹佛市中心的水星咖啡馆举行,是我们自疫情开始两年来的首次重聚。 由于自那时以来发生了许多大事,我们决定举办一场讨论或工作坊形式的聚会,让成员们分享过去两年中他们生活中经历的重要星象过渡和显著事件。 克里斯主持了会议,首先介绍了丹佛占星小组和水星咖啡馆的创立星图,并分享了他个人的星象过渡经历,随后邀请听众上台麦克风前讲述自己在过去几年中经历的积极或消极星象过渡,以及这些过渡如何反映在他们的生活中。 这次聚会很好地展示了不同类型的星象过渡如何运作,占星师关注哪些方面,以及如何与他人讨论他们的出生星图。 我们计划每月第二个星期六在水星咖啡馆恢复丹佛占星小组的聚会。 有关丹佛占星小组的更多信息,请参阅我们的Meetup页面: https://www.meetup.com/denver-astrologers/ 如果您喜欢本集并希望支持本播客,请成为我们的赞助人: https://www.patreon.com/astrologypodcast 本集提供音频和视频两种版本。 观看本集的视频版本 分享占星过渡故事的视频版本: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Be8QO67P0 - 文字稿 本集完整文字稿已提供:第350期文字稿 收听本集音频版本 您可以通过下方按钮直接在网站上播放本集音频,或下载为MP3文件到您的设备。

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Speaker 0

欢迎来到丹佛占星小组时隔两年的首次聚会。

Welcome to the first meeting of the Denver Astrology Group in two years.

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这是我们自疫情以来的第一次聚会。

This is our first meeting since the pandemic.

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是的。

Yeah.

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能回到水星咖啡馆,感觉真的很好。

It feels really good to be back back here at the Mercury Cafe.

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对于还不了解的人,我是在2008年5月创立了这个小组,之后我们连续十二年几乎从未缺席过一次聚会,直到2020年3月疫情和封锁措施来袭。

For those that aren't aware, we start I started this group back in May 2008, and we had a really nice twelve year run there where we didn't miss almost a single meeting for twelve years until the pandemic hit and the lockdowns happened starting in March 2020.

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从那以后,发生了很多事情,我们一直想重新恢复这个小组,但不确定何时才是合适的时机。

So since that time, you know, lot of things have happened and we've been wanting to bring the group back but wasn't sure when it was time.

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但今年春天木星进入双鱼座,感觉我们终于正在回归正常,是时候重新启动这个小组了。

But it feels like with Jupiter in Pisces this spring that we're finally getting back to normal and it was time to bring the group back.

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那么,我们开始吧。

So let's see.

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首先,先说几件事。

A few things to get out the way first.

Speaker 0

谢谢大家。

So thanks everybody.

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由于这是我们第一次举办小组聚会,我们不确定在口罩和其他事项上该如何处理。

We weren't sure since this is our first time doing a group meeting, like what to do in terms of masks and other things like that.

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因此,我们在最后时刻才询问了口罩政策,以帮助一些人感到更安心地回来。

So we ended up asking for a mask policy very late in the process just to help make some people feel more comfortable coming back.

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在未来几个月里,我们会继续讨论这个问题,但因为这是我们的第一次聚会,我们觉得还是谨慎一点好。

We'll continue to talk about that over the course of the next few months, but since they're our first meeting, we just felt like playing it safe.

Speaker 0

我不会戴口罩,这样你们能听清楚我说话,但我今天早上做了新冠检测,结果是阴性,为了安全起见。

I am gonna not wear a mask just so you can hear me, but I did take a COVID test this morning, and it was negative just for the sake of being safe.

Speaker 0

今天这次聚会,我将首先谈谈两年前疫情开始时的一些星象过渡,特别是那些表明当时世界整体状况的主要外行星过渡。

So what we're gonna do in this meeting is I'm gonna open up just by talking about some transits starting two years ago at the beginning of the pandemic, some of the major outer outer planet transits that were indicating what was going on and what was happening in the world in general.

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我们还会结合这些过渡,讨论过去两年里它们如何影响了我们每个人的个人生活。

And we're gonna personalize some of that by talking about how some of those transits impacted us in our personal lives over the past two years.

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比如,这些星象中有一部分是土星进入水瓶座,2020年3月和4月,土星进入了水瓶座。

So some of those transits, for example, were Saturn going through Aquarius, where in March and April 2020, Saturn went into Aquarius.

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火星与土星在这个星座交汇,这可以说是封锁和其他我们过去几年所经历的诸多事件的开端。

Mars conjoined Saturn in that sign and that was sort of like the beginning of the lockdowns and everything else and a lot of the things we've been experiencing over the past few years.

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所以我想结合大家的出生星盘,谈谈这些星象的影响,也希望各位能自愿上台分享,过去两年中自己经历的一个正面星象或负面星象,以及它如何影响了个人生活。

So I wanna talk about some of these transits in the context of our birth charts, and I was hoping that individuals would feel comfortable coming up to the mic and sharing, one positive transit that they had or one negative transit that they had over the course of the past two years and how that worked out in their personal life.

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因为有时候,正是通过讲述我们自己的故事,占星才真正活了起来——这与你只是在书里读到,或在YouTube频道上观看时的感受截然不同。

Because sometimes it's really by talking about our personal stories that astrology comes alive in a way that's much different than when you're just reading about it in a book or you're watching it on a YouTube channel or something like that.

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而能够进行这样的交流,将是一个很好的方式,帮助我们重新凝聚团体,在经历了两年的中断后重建社区感。

And having the ability to have those discussions, thought would be a good way to bring the group back and start building a sense of community again after that little two year break.

Speaker 0

那么,我们先从我打算调出一些星盘开始,为各位设定一些背景信息。

So why don't we get started first by I wanted to pull up some charts to set some of the context for the group.

Speaker 0

首先,我想调出Mercury Cafe的星盘。

So first, I wanted to pull up the chart of the Mercury Cafe.

Speaker 0

这是这座建筑开业当天的出生星盘,当时Marilyn在1990年10月31日万圣节早晨正式开业。

So this is the actual birth chart for the opening in the first day of business of this building when Marilyn opened it on Halloween day, Halloween morning, 10/31/1990.

Speaker 0

而这是在观众席上的玛丽莲。

And this was Marilyn's in the audience.

Speaker 0

这是一个择时图。

This was an electional chart.

Speaker 0

对吧?

Right?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

当你看占星师做的星盘时,会发现有些安排是刻意为之的,这挺有趣的。

And you can kinda see that because it's funny when you look at charts done by astrologers, some things are done very deliberately.

Speaker 0

在这个例子中,玛丽莲特意让太阳和金星位于天蝎座五度的上升点,木星则正好落在狮子座十二度的中天位置。

In this instance, Marilyn put it so that the Sun and Venus were right on the Ascendant at five degrees of Scorpio, and Jupiter was placed right on the degree of the Midheaven at 12 degrees of Leo.

Speaker 0

随后,Mercury Cafe 就在这个确切的时刻首次在这处地点开业,这个时刻从此成为 Mercury Cafe 的诞生星盘,也承载了这个地方的能量,以及与之相关的诸多事件。

And then, the Mercury Cafe opened for business in this location for the first time at this exact moment, and this has forever been the sort of birth chart of the Mercury Cafe and the energy of this place and as well as some of the events that have happened with it.

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所以,有一件事特别有趣,几年前我们就讨论过,当时土星正在经过摩羯座,从2017年一直到2020年,土星正行经 Mercury Cafe 原始星盘的第三宫。

So one of the things that's been really fascinating that we talked about even a few years ago that was starting to happen as Saturn was transiting through Capricorn in 2017 and through 2020 is that Saturn was going through the third house of the Mercury Cafe's actual birth chart.

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第三宫代表你的邻居和你所在的社区。

And the third house is the house, that represents your neighbors and your neighborhood.

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而在那时,Mercury Cafe 正经历着土星回归。

And the and the Mercury Cafe was actually going through a Saturn return at that time.

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有趣的是,多年来,这栋建筑一直位于丹佛市中心的边缘地带。

And one of the things that was funny is for, you know, many years, this building was kind of on the outskirts of Downtown Denver.

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但就在过去几年的这段时间里,突然之间,许多巨大的高层建筑和摩天大楼开始拔地而起。

But then all of a sudden during that time frame over the past several years, these huge high rises and, like, skyscrapers started going up.

Speaker 0

现在,当我们望向窗外时,可以看到周围遍布着林立的高楼,形成一个繁荣的区域,某种程度上几乎将 Mercury Cafe 淹没在其中。

Now we can all see as we look out the window that there's just buildings in sort of a flourishing neighborhood of large buildings that's almost dwarfing the Mercury Cafe in some in some respects.

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因此,这是一个很好的例子,说明有时即使是企业、实体或其他非人类事物的出生图,仍能反映当时世界发生的星象运行。

So, this is a good example of how sometimes even the birth charts of businesses or entities or other things that are not necessarily humans, not birth charts, can still be reflected in the transits of what's going on in the world at the time.

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然后,当然在2020年,土星进入水瓶座,进入了 Mercury Cafe 星图的第四宫。

And then, of course, in 2020, Saturn ingressed into Aquarius and then went into the fourth house of the Mercury Cafe chart.

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Mercury Cafe 成功度过了疫情,最终,Marilyn 做出了将 Mercury Cafe 出售给新主人的决定,我认为这在象征意义上很有趣,因为出生图中的第四宫代表什么?

And the Mercury Cafe was able to weather the pandemic, and then eventually, Marilyn, made the choice to sell the Mercury Cafe to new owners, which I thought was kind of interesting symbolically since the fourth house in a birth chart represents what?

Speaker 0

你的父母。

Your your parents.

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那么,一个企业的父母是谁呢?

So who are the parents of a business?

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就是老板。

It's the owner.

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就是那个创立它、孕育它、养育它并将其带入世界的人。

It's the person who started it and who sort of birthed it and and nursed it and brought it up into the world.

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而当这里发生过渡时,土星正经过第四宫。

And then at some point when there's a transition or there was a transition here, Saturn was transiting through the fourth house.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

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所以这是一次重大的变化,但也很欣慰看到 Mercury Cafe 仍保持了一些延续性,我们依然能在这里举办这些聚会,让它继续成为社区的活力中心,不仅对我们小组,也对其他所有团体而言。

So that's been a major change, but it's also been nice to see some continuity in the Mercury Cafe and that we're still able to do things like have these meetings here and have it be a thriving place for community, not just for our group for but for all the other groups as well.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

这是Mercury咖啡馆出售的星盘。

Here is the chart for the sale of the Mercury Cafe.

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这就是你最终使用的那个。

This was the one you ended up using.

Speaker 0

对吧,玛丽莲?

Right, Marilyn?

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 1

所以日期是2021年6月22日。

So it's 06/22/2021.

Speaker 0

你可以看到,土星位于水瓶座12度,而在之前Mercury咖啡馆的出生星盘中,这个度数正是IC的精确位置。

And you can see that Saturn was rated 12 degrees of Aquarius, which in the previous chart was the exact degree of the IC in the birth chart of the Mercury Cafe.

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所以不仅仅是土星经过第四宫整宫,它实际上在出售当天精确命中了IC的度数。

So it wasn't just that it was going through the fourth whole side house, but it actually hit the degree of the IC at the time of the sale.

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其中一部分是择日的影响,因为你当时一直在找一个合适的星盘日期,但还有一部分只是时间上的巧合。

And some of that was electional because you were searching for a good chart, but some of that was accidental of just the timing.

Speaker 0

对吧?

Right?

Speaker 0

对了,你要不要走到麦克风前来讲讲这个星盘?

Actually, do you wanna come up to the mic and talk about the chart?

Speaker 1

我之前都不知道我们要聊这些星盘,不过没关系,我来讲。

I didn't know that we were gonna talk about these charts, but it's fine.

Speaker 1

我之前特别想要太阳木星三分相,而且我记得我还在里面找过另一个三分相。

I really liked I wanted the sun Jupiter trine, and I think there was another trine in there that I was looking for.

Speaker 2

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 1

我想要借至日的运势力量。

I wanted the power of the solstice.

Speaker 1

在我看来,真正能说明这次出售的行运盘是天王星在原始星盘里从第七宫对冲第一宫的配置。

The transit that, to me, really depicts this sail is the Uranus opposition from the seventh house to the first house in the original chart.

Speaker 1

而且我也71岁了,早在68岁的时候我就知道,我得规划一下未来了,因为我真的不能再那么拼命工作了。

And that also I'm 71 years old, and I knew when I was 68 that I needed to figure out the future because I really can't work that hard anymore.

Speaker 0

你介意我们看一下你的星盘吗?

Do you mind if we take a look at your chart?

Speaker 0

我们不看也没关系。

We don't have to.

Speaker 0

你说了算。

It's up to you.

Speaker 1

那你还想再看看这个星盘吗?

Well, do you wanna look at this chart anymore?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

我的意思是,还有

I mean, there's

Speaker 3

仍然有

still a

Speaker 0

所以这是你和我之前讨论过的一张择时星盘

so this is an electional chart that you and I talked about

Speaker 4

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 0

我们一起去挑选的,因为你希望找一张非常接近夏至的星盘

And went over that are kind of picking together because you were like, find a chart that's really close to the summer solstice.

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我们得到的一个关键点是水星在双子座第一整宫直接运行

And one of the things we got was Mercury stationing direct in Gemini in the first whole sign house.

Speaker 1

哦,对的

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1

好的

Okay.

Speaker 1

所有这些星体的停滞

All those stations.

Speaker 1

实际上有三个停滞:木星逆行停滞,我认为海王星虽然星盘上没显示,但也处于停滞状态

There's really three stations, Jupiter stations, retrograde, and I think Neptune, although it doesn't show it on the chart, is really stationary too.

Speaker 1

如果我们能在天空中看到这些行星,它们会静止不动。

That if we could see these planets in the sky, they'd be standing still.

Speaker 1

我不记得了,好像就在一天之内,所有这些行星都处于停滞状态。

And I don't remember the it was like within a day, all these stationary things.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

在右下角有一个小表格,显示了每颗行星的上一次和下一次逆行或顺行点。

In the bottom right corner, there's a little table that shows the last station of each planet and the next station.

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所以它显示水星将在大约十小时后开始顺行。

So it shows that Mercury was about to station ten hours later.

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因此,那天水星基本上处于顺行停滞状态。

So it's basically stationary direct that day.

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在其他地方,木星大约在一天前刚刚开始逆行。

Elsewhere, Jupiter had just stationed retrograde one point two days before.

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所以木星基本上处于逆行停滞状态。

So Jupiter was stationary retrograde basically.

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然后,是海王星。

And then, yeah, there's Neptune.

Speaker 0

海王星将在三天后开始留置。

Neptune was about to station three days later.

Speaker 1

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

因为它们移动缓慢,到那时海王星几乎已经静止不动了。

And because they move slow, it's like by then Neptune's pretty much standing still.

Speaker 1

我想要留置的力量,也想要至点的力量。

I wanted the power of the stations, and I wanted the power of the solstice.

Speaker 1

当我开始和克里斯讨论这个时,我们正在查看不同的星盘,我说:等等,等等。

And when I started talking to Chris about it, we were looking at different charts, and I said, well, hey, wait.

Speaker 1

如果我们把木星放在中天呢?

What if we put Jupiter on the Midheaven?

Speaker 1

他回答:对。

And he goes, yeah.

Speaker 1

但那是在半夜左右。

But that's about the middle of the night.

Speaker 1

就像,没关系。

It's like, it's okay.

Speaker 0

对。

Right.

Speaker 0

嗯,因为是清晨,所以你得,比如说,签文件

Well, it's early in the morning, so you'd have to, like, sign the paperwork

Speaker 5

基本上在

basically before

Speaker 0

日出之前,还得让其他所有者同意

sunrise, and you got the other owners to go along

Speaker 2

这件事。

with that.

Speaker 1

不错。

Nice.

Speaker 1

所以在这个星盘中,天王星在哪里?

And so in this chart, where is the Uranus?

Speaker 0

天王星位于金牛座13度。

Uranus is at 13 degrees of Taurus.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 1

而在水星的原始星盘中,水星位于天蝎座13度。

And in the original chart of the Mercury, Mercury is at 13 degrees Scorpio.

Speaker 4

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 1

中天和天底都在12度。

And the Midheaven and Nadir are at 12 degrees.

Speaker 1

所以对我来说,这个天王星相位标志着必须发生改变的开端。

So to me, that Uranus transit is really a kickoff on something must change.

Speaker 0

对。

Right.

Speaker 0

所以,过去一年中我们所经历的紧张感,部分源于天王星与土星在天空中形成的相位对冲,它们彼此非常接近,这种紧张体现在维持现状、固守旧有事物与必须为未来做出重大根本性变革之间的冲突。

So it was part of that tension that we're experiencing over the past year between the Saturn and Uranus square in the sky, where they're really close to each other and that tension between keeping the status quo and wanting to maintain old things versus needing to make major radical changes for the future.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 1

所以对你来说,这是对变革的迫切需求。

So for you demanding change.

Speaker 1

你知道的吧?

You know?

Speaker 1

没错。

Right.

Speaker 0

也就是说,那时变革已经成为一种必然。

Like change being a necessity at that point.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

部分原因是疫情期间经营生意非常艰难,尤其是那种以社区为导向的生意。

Partially because it was hard running a business, like, during the pandemic, I'm sure, especially one that was more community oriented.

Speaker 1

既搞笑又艰难。

It was hilarious and hard.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

那么,在水星咖啡馆的星盘中,水星正好位于13度,因此它确实同时受到了天王星对冲和土星从水瓶座形成的刑相的影响。

Well, it's really, fitting then that in the Mercury Cafe chart, Mercury itself is at 13, so it really was getting hit by both that Uranus opposition as well as the Saturn square from Aquarius.

Speaker 0

所以是的。

So Yeah.

Speaker 0

这些确实是影响水星咖啡馆水星的两大主要能量。

Really, those are two of the main energies hitting Mercury itself for the Mercury Cafe.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

你的星盘里有没有什么行运,比如

Do you have, like, a transit or anything in your chart that was

Speaker 1

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 1

我的星盘和新老板的星盘中,海王星的影响很强。

My chart and one of the new owner's charts, the Neptune hits hard.

Speaker 1

行运海王星与我第七宫的行星形成对冲,并且是上升星座的守护星。

Transiting Neptune opposes my seventh house planets and is the ruler of the ascendant.

Speaker 1

其中一位新老板的海王星位于射手座21度。

And one of the new owners has a 21 degrees Sagittarius Neptune.

Speaker 1

所以事情变得模糊不清

And so things were cloudy

Speaker 6

当然。

Sure.

Speaker 1

而且尚未揭晓。

And still yet to be revealed.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

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所以当海王星行运发生时,总会有一些不确定性,这真的很难应对,因为你身处其中时,很难看清局外的情况。

So there's some, like, uncertainty that's always really tricky with Neptune transits is when you're in the middle of them, it's hard to see outside of that.

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是的。

Yeah.

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事情不仅存在这些,还有幻觉、妄想和欺骗。

Things are there's that, and there's also illusion and delusion and deception.

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当然。

Sure.

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对。

Yeah.

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但是

But

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我们在这儿。

here we are.

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今天我们这些占星师在水星咖啡馆相聚。

Here we are today, the astrologers meeting in the Mercury Cafe.

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太好了。

It's great.

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是的。

Yeah.

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嗯,这很大程度上要感谢你,因为你一直鼓励我,说该回来了。

Well, and it was largely thanks to you because you kept encouraging me saying it's time to come back.

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该重新开始占星聚会了,你一直帮助我们组建这个团体,至今已经坚持了十四年。

It's time to get the astrology meetings going again, and you've always helped us to start this group and have it for, you know, so long now for fourteen years.

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非常感谢你让这一切成为可能。

So thanks a lot for allowing this to happen.

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我沉迷于社群和占星语言。

I'm addicted to community and the astrology language.

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好的。

Alright.

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好的。

Alright.

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这是丹佛占星小组首次会议的择时图,我于2008年5月4日下午1点整在科罗拉多州丹佛市选择了这个时间。

So here's electional chart for the very first meeting of the Denver Astrology Group, which was an election that I picked on 05/04/2008 starting at exactly 01:00PM, in Denver, Colorado.

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当疫情发生时,一个特别明显的情况是,天王星正在穿越金牛座中部,并开始强烈影响我在择时图中设置的许多金牛座行星。

And one of the things that was really striking when the pandemic happened is that Uranus was transiting through the middle of Taurus and just started really nailing a lot of the Taurus planets that I had set up in the electional chart for this group.

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所以,内圈显示的是丹佛占星小组的星盘。

So this is, on the inside wheel, it shows the chart for the Denver Astrology Group.

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外圈显示的是我们2020年3月14日最后一次会议时的星体运行位置。

And on the outside wheel, it shows the transits for our last meeting that we had on 03/14/2020.

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那正是封锁即将开始的时候。

And that was right when the lockdown started were about to start happening.

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所以我们原本请了一位外地的演讲者,但因为封锁突然开始,一切陷入混乱,我们不得不临时改在线会议。

And so we had to we had a a speaker coming in from out of town, but we had to switch it to an online meeting at the last minute because the lockdowns had started and and everything was just going crazy.

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所以你注意到了,当时天王星正好位于金牛座四度,正好与丹佛占星小组星图第十宫中的natal月亮和natal金星形成合相。

So one of the things you notice is that transiting Uranus was at four degrees of Taurus at that point, which was exactly conjoining the natal moon and the natal Venus that were up in the tenth house of the Denver Astrology Group's chart.

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因此,原本稳定了整整十二年、从未缺席一次会议的活动,突然被天王星闯入而发生了意外的中断。

So there was just this unexpected or sudden disruption in something that had been relatively stable for, you know, twelve years up to that point, not missing a single meeting, and then suddenly Uranus comes in.

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就像天王星在个人本命盘中有时会做的那样,它可能会突然横冲直撞,彻底打乱原本的秩序。

And like it does sometimes in transits to your birth chart, it can kind of like bulldoze things or really shake things up unexpectedly.

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所以我想让大家关注过去几年发生的天王星运行相位,因为这些缓慢移动的天王星相位非常重要,尤其是当它们与你的本命行星形成困难相位,比如合相、刑克或对冲时。

So that's one of the transits I want people to sort of pay attention to is the Uranus transits that were happening over the past few year years because those slow moving Uranus transits can be very important, especially when they make a hard aspect like a conjunction or a square or opposition to one of your natal planets.

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它有时会以积极而意外的方式打乱现状,有时则以负面的方式带来冲击。

It can, shake things up or disrupt things sometimes in positive unexpected ways, other times in negative ways.

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核心主题始终是某种突如其来的惊喜或中断。

The core theme is always just an unexpected surprise or disruption of some sort.

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这是丹佛占星小组最后一次会议——2020年3月14日的星图。

And here is the chart for that last meeting of the Denver Astrology Group on 03/14/2020.

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当时所有占星师都注意到的一个重要现象是,众多行星聚集在摩羯座,这个摩羯座星群是2020年初开始逐渐形成的一个显著特征,尤其从一月发生的土星与冥王星合相开始。

And the big thing that you can see that all the astrologers commented on at the time was that there was just this huge pile up of planets in the sign of Capricorn and that Capricorn stellium was one of the characteristic things that started building up in early twenty twenty, especially starting with the Saturn Pluto conjunction that happened in January.

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我认为就在土星与冥王星合相的那天——大约在一月左右——《纽约时报》刊登了其首批关于COVID-19的报道,提及一种在中国爆发的神秘病毒。

And I think it was the very day of the Saturn Pluto conjunction around January or something like that that the New York Times ran one of its first stories about COVID and this mysterious, virus that had broken out in China.

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因此,土星与冥王星的合相成为占星师们将这场大流行与之关联的主要标志之一,就像历史上其他土星冥王星合相一样。

So that Saturn Pluto conjunction is one of the major signatures that astrologers ended up associating the pandemic with in the same way that other Saturn Pluto conjunctions going back.

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例如,上一次发生在1980至1981年天秤座的土星冥王星合相,正是艾滋病大流行的开端。

For example, the previous one being in 1980, 1981 in Libra was really the start of the AIDS pandemic.

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如果你回溯历史上的这些土星冥王星合相,往往会发现它们与重大流行病或其他类似转折点的时间高度吻合。

So if you take those Saturn Pluto conjunctions back, you tend to see major turning points in pandemics and things like that at that time.

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这一切因木星也同时与土星和冥王星合相而加速,随后火星在几乎全球范围内实施封锁的时刻进入摩羯座,使疫情迅速演变为一场全球性危机。

All of that got accelerated because Jupiter also was there conjoining Saturn and Pluto, and then Mars moved into Capricorn right when all of the lockdowns started happening pretty much across The US and across most of the world at that point, and it became a worldwide thing.

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但在此之后,土星于三月下旬首次进入水瓶座。

So what happened after that point though is Saturn in late March made its first initial ingress into the sign of Aquarius.

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突然间,土星进入了黄道带的新星座,对许多人而言,这激活了他们星盘中一个全新的领域。

So all of a sudden, Saturn has moved into a new sign of the zodiac and it's activating for many people a brand new part of their chart all of a sudden.

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这正是我们深陷封锁初期阶段的时候。

And this is right when we're in the thick of the early phases of the lockdowns.

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不久之后,火星也运行到水瓶座,我们迎来了火星与土星在水瓶座的重大合相,这种合相大约每两年或两年半发生一次。

And not long after that, transiting Mars came up and also moved into Aquarius, and we had this major Mars Saturn conjunction in the sign of Aquarius, which occurs about every two or two and a half years.

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但根据传统或古代占星学,火星与土星的相位或合相也常与瘟疫相关,因为火星和土星被认为是两大‘凶星’。

But sometimes at least traditionally or in ancient astrology, Mars Saturn alignments or conjunctions tended to be associated with pandemics as well because Mars and Saturn were the two quote unquote, malefic planets.

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比如上一次这种合相发生在2013年左右的天蝎座,我记得当时曾因埃博拉疫情爆发而引发恐慌,人们努力遏制疫情扩散,最终取得了成功,或至少比后来的新冠疫情控制得更好。

So the last time we had one of those, for example, the Mars Saturn conjunction in Scorpio back in, like, 2013, I remember there was, some panic about the outbreak of Ebola and the attempts to sort of put a stop to that to stop it from spreading too far, which ended up being successful or at least more successful than what happened later with COVID.

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因此,2020年3月土星进入水瓶座标志着许多人生活中的重大转折,因为一旦土星进入水瓶座,它就进入了新的整宫宫位。

So that ingress of Saturn in March 2020 marked a major shift for a lot of people because as soon as Saturn moved into Aquarius, it moved into a new whole sign house.

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因此,当时它激活了你星盘中一个新的领域或生活的某个新方面。

And so it would have been activating a new sector of your chart or a new area of your life at that time.

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所以我想请大家思考一下:2020年3月,土星进入的是你命盘中的哪个整宫?

So one of the things I'd like everybody to think about is what, whole sign house did Saturn move into in March 2020 for you?

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与这个宫位相关的是哪些主题?

What topics are associated with that house?

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大概从2020年3月或4月开始的这两年里,这些相关的话题以怎样的方式在你的生活中变得愈发突出了呢?

And in what ways did some of those topics become more prominent in your life over the course of the past two years since that time roughly starting in about March or April 2020.

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对很多人来说,之所以会出现这种情况,首先是因为当时不止土星,还有火星也同时进入了那个星座,所以他们生活的那个领域往往会在那时浮现出一些棘手的问题。

So for many people, it was initially because it wasn't just Saturn but also Mars moving into that sign at the same time, it was often some sort of difficult thing was brought up at that time in that sector of their life or in that area of their life.

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当时确实出现了需要应对的挑战。

There was a challenge that arose at that time.

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接下来给大家展示一张星宫象征意义的示意图,当你聊起或是思考自己生活的各个领域、星盘里的不同宫位时,就可以参考这张图里列出的各类象征含义。

So in terms of topics, here's a diagram that lists the different significations of the houses that you should think about or that should come to mind when you're talking about or thinking about the different areas of your life and the different houses of the chart.

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第一宫主要代表身体与肉身化的存在,同时也象征一个人的心智、性格与精神层面。

So the first house primarily represents the body and the physical incarnation, but also, a person's mind and character and spirit.

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有时第一宫的行星过境会体现在你的外表变化,或是你向外界展现自我的方式发生改变;但如果是具挑战性的行星过境,这段时间也可能会出现棘手的健康问题。

Sometimes first house transits can be reflected in changes in terms of your appearance or how you appear to the world in some way, but it can also reflect if it's a difficult transit, sometimes a challenging health event can come up during that time.

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第二宫掌管财务、资产与收入,简单来说就是你的金钱和所有物。

The second house is finances and possessions and income, so your your money basically and your possessions.

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第三宫关联的是兄弟姐妹、短途出行、教育,同时也涵盖沟通层面——比如你说话的方式、你接收信息与学习的模式,还有你如何把自己掌握的信息传递给外界。

The third house is things like siblings, short distance travel, education, but also communication, like how you talk, how you receive information and learn, but also how you communicate information and what you know to the world.

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第四宫代表父母、你的家和居住状况、大家庭,以及你的私人生活,因为第四宫是星盘中最隐秘的部分,与代表公共生活的第十宫相对。

The fourth house is parents, your home and living situation, extended family, and also just your private life in general since the fourth house is the most hidden part of the chart and is opposite to the tenth house, which is the most public part of the chart and represents your public life.

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第五宫涉及子女、创造力、愉悦、你如何放松,有时也包括性与性相关的话题。

The fifth house is things like children, creativity, pleasure, and how you do relaxation, and also sometimes sex and sexuality and topics surrounding it.

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第六宫可能代表疾病、受伤,但也包括工作,比如你的职业。

The sixth house can be illness, injuries, but also work, like your job.

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有时,如果你处于管理职位,它也可能指下属或为你工作的人。

And sometimes if you're in a managerial position, it can be subordinates or people that work for you.

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第七宫代表关系、伴侣、婚姻,以及你生活中其他所有人。

Seventh house is relationships, partnership, marriage, and other people in general in your life.

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第八宫可能涉及与死亡或终结相关的问题,但也包括继承,以及你生命中他人拥有的资产,因为第八宫是他人第七宫的第二宫。

The eighth house can be, issues related to mortality or death, but also inheritance and the assets that belong to other people in your life besides you since the eighth house is the second house relative to the seventh house of other people.

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第九宫涉及旅行、与你成长文化不同的外来事物,也包括教育和宗教。

Ninth house is travel, things that are foreign from your culture that you grew up in, but also education and religion.

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第十宫代表事业、行动、声誉和你的公共生活。

The tenth house is career, action, reputation, and your public life.

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第十一宫代表朋友、团体、联盟,以及对未来的希望或你正在为未来构建的事物。

The eleventh house is friends, groups, alliances, and hopes for the future or things that you're building on towards the future.

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最后,第十二宫是较为困难的一宫,有时涉及敌人,或那些与你合不来、在你生活中与你目标相悖的人。

And then finally, the twelfth is one of the more difficult houses and can sometimes pertain to themes like enemies or people that you just don't get along with or that work at cross purposes to you in your life.

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有时也涉及疾病、损失,或与独处、隔离相关的话题。

Also sometimes illness, loss, or themes having to do with seclusion or isolation.

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所以每个人都应该思考一下自己的上升星座,然后从2020年3月开始,从你的上升星座算起,看看土星进入了哪一宫。

So everybody should think about what their what your rising sign is and then what house Saturn moved into relative to your rising sign if you just count signs from your rising sign starting in March 2020.

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好的。

Alright.

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为了演示这一点,这是我的星盘,我的上升星座是水瓶座。

So to give sort of a demonstration of that, so this is my chart, and I have Aquarius rising.

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上一次聚会时的情况是这样的:这是我的星盘内部,这是2020年3月丹佛占星小组上一次聚会时的星体运行位置。

And, what happened with the last meeting So this is my chart on the inside, and this is the transits for the last meeting of the Denver Astrology Group in the March 2020.

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当时发生的情况是,我们使用了一种称为‘完美时机’的推算技术,几年前我们在之前的会议中讨论过:从上升星座开始,每年移动一个星座,你最终落在的星座,就是当年被激活的星座。

And, what happened is that using the timing technique known as perfections that we've talked about in a previous meeting a few years ago where you just count one sign per year from the rising sign and then whatever sign you land on, is activated for that year of your life.

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你从出生那年的上升星座开始,到第一个生日时,它会移动到第二个星座,下一个生日时则移动到第三个星座,以此类推。

So you start at your rising sign for the first year of your birth, then at your first birthday, it moves to the second sign, then at the next birthday, it moves to the third sign and so on and so forth.

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2020年3月疫情爆发时,我正处于第十二宫的完美年,当时激活了我星盘中位于第十二宫摩羯座19度的火星位置。

So I was in a twelfth house perfection year when the pandemic hit in March 2020, and it was activating my natal Mars placement at 19 degrees of Capricorn in the twelfth house.

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第十二宫是较难的宫位之一,当时运行中的火星与我本命火星形成合相。

And the twelfth is one of the more difficult houses, And what happened is that transiting Mars came up and conjoined my natal Mars.

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大约一周或两周后,火星和土星都进入了我第一宫的水瓶座,并在第一宫形成合相,第一宫代表身体、健康和生理活力。

And then about a week or two after that, both Mars and Saturn moved into Aquarius in my first house and formed that conjunction in my first house of body and health and physical vitality.

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结果就是在丹佛占星小组最后一次聚会的那个周末,我病倒了,感染了新冠。

And what happened is that I got sick basically that weekend of the last meeting of the Denver Astrology Group and I got COVID.

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但我当时以为这只是轻微症状,大概一周左右就会好转。

But what happened is I thought it was gonna be a light thing and it was gonna wear off after like a week or something like that.

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我只是像其他人一样正常生活,然后很快恢复常态。

I just hang out like everyone was doing and then bounce back to normal.

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但咳嗽和疲劳持续了超过一个月,当土星进入我的第一宫和水瓶座时,我整整一个月都卧床不起。

But then the cough lasted and the fatigue lasted for over a month, and I was kind of bedridden for a month as Saturn moved into my first house and into Aquarius.

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当时我理智上知道,这可能意味着我会经历某种长期的健康问题。

And I knew sort of intellectually at the time that that could mean that I was in for some sort of longer term health issue.

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但那时,我只觉得这不过是会过去的事,几周后就能恢复。

But at the time, it just seemed like something that would pass and I would get over after a few weeks.

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但由于土星刚刚进入水瓶座,这预示着土星将开始为期两到三年的 transit,经过我的第一宫——身体与生理活力的领域。

But because Saturn had just ingressed into Aquarius, it was indicating the beginning of a two or three year transit of Saturn through my first house of body and physical vitality.

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在过去十年与客户合作的过程中,我一直知道土星经过第一宫时的影响。

And in working with clients in the past, knew for ten years that Saturn transits through the first house.

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土星会放慢一切进程。

Saturn can slow things down.

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它可能让人感到年龄增长,变得迟缓,也可能预示重大的健康危机,以及那些难以应对或需要付出巨大努力才能克服的健康问题。

It can indicate advancements in age like feeling older, feeling slower, it can indicate major health crises and dealing with health issues that are hard or take a lot of work to overcome or to push through.

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我差不多病了两个月,才开始完全康复。

And after basically like I ended up being sick for about two months before I started fully recovering.

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之后,我依然持续遭受一种挥之不去的疲惫感,总是感到疲倦,头脑昏沉,记忆力也大不如前——尽管过去记忆力一直是我最突出的优势之一。

And then after that point, I was still dealing with this weird fatigue that never went away, I was always tired, and I had this fogginess in my head and my memory didn't work as well even though that always used to be one of my strongest sort of gifts was having a good memory.

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在接下来的几个月里,我逐渐意识到,有些人因为某种原因感染新冠后出现了不同的反应,引发了长期症状,人们称之为‘长新冠’,而医生们其实并不清楚该如何治疗。

And for the next several months, I realized and started to emerge that some people for some reason COVID hit them differently and led to longer term symptoms that they call long COVID and that doctors don't really know how to treat.

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他们正在努力寻找治疗方法,但对一部分人来说,这会演变成一种长期的健康问题。

They're trying to figure out how to treat it, but it turns into like a longer term health issue for some percentage of people.

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不幸的是,我就是其中之一。

And unfortunately, I was one of them.

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所以,我的土星行运——也就是土星经过第一宫的第一年——就是学习如何应对这种长期疾病的过程,它让我行动变慢、能力受损,让我感觉在短短几个月内老了十岁,这完全符合土星行运的特征,任何了解土星行运的人都会明白这一点。

So that was my Saturn transit or that's been my Saturn transit through the first house was the first year of that was learning how to deal with a long term sort of illness that was slowing me down or that was impairing me, and made me feel like I had aged 10 basically over the course of a few months, which is very fitting for a Saturn transit for anybody that knows what Saturn transits are like.

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年龄、时间这类概念通常都非常突出。

The ideas of age and time and things like that are usually very prominent.

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而在这个案例中,因为这是我的第一宫,所以它直接关联到身体。

So in this instance, because it was my first house, it was relating to the body.

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好消息是,到了2020年,木星也进入了水瓶座,并追上了土星,开始进入我的第一宫。

So the good news is that by the 2020, Jupiter also moved into Aquarius and it caught up with Saturn and started moving through my first house.

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就在土星与木星交汇的那一刻,疫苗刚刚开始推广,我不久后就接种了疫苗,这确实帮助缓解了我当时已持续近一年的长新冠症状。

And at that Saturn Jupiter conjunction was actually when the vaccines were first rolled out, and I ended up getting the vaccine not long after that and it actually did help with some of the symptoms that I was dealing with of long COVID for almost a year at that point.

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所以在2021年期间,随着我逐渐学会如何应对,情况开始好转,我也掌握了一些额外的工具来处理由土星位于第一宫引发的长期疾病。

So there was starting to be an improvement during the course of twenty twenty one as I learned sort of how to deal with it and that had some additional tools for addressing this long term illness that had developed with Saturn in the first house.

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所以这既是土星带来的负面影响,也是木星介入并清理局面的积极影响,

So that was both the negative transit but also the positive transit of Jupiter kind of swooping in and cleaning things up a

Speaker 2

一点点

little

Speaker 0

bit.

Speaker 0

如今,我正在经历今年内土星穿越第一宫的剩余阶段。

So now I'm just getting through the rest of that Saturn transit through the first house over the course of this year.

Speaker 0

到了明年初,土星将离开水瓶座,进入双鱼座,进入我的第二宫。

And then early next year, Saturn will depart from Aquarius and move into Pisces and go into my second house.

Speaker 0

我预计那时我的状态会比过去一两年好很多。

And I sort of expect at that point that I'll be in much better shape than I have been over the past year or two.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

不是在财务上,但只要土星离开第一宫,我现在就接受这一点。

Not financially, but I'll take that at this point as long as Saturn departs from the first.

Speaker 0

无论如何,我想讲这个故事,部分是为了举例,说明我原本打算让大家分享土星经过任何宫位、木星 transit 或其他任何长期星象影响的经历,以便让过去两年的经历更加个人化。

Anyways, I wanted to explain that story partially as an example to set up what I had in mind when I was gonna ask people to share stories of Saturn transits through whatever house it went through or Jupiter transits or whatever other long term transits you've all been experiencing in order to personalize some of what the past two years have been like.

Speaker 0

但同时也是为了说明,为什么我们直到现在才终于举办丹佛占星小组的首次聚会。

But also in order to explain why we're just now finally having the first meeting of the Denver Astrology Group in two years.

Speaker 0

这是因为直到现在我才恢复了精力来做这件事,但这也是我今天如此兴奋地回到这里、重新启动这个小组、终于回归正常的原因——不仅为了社群,也为了我自己。

It was because I didn't have the energy to do it until now, but that's one of the reasons I'm so excited to be back here today and to be starting this group again and getting back to normal finally, not just for the community but also for myself personally.

Speaker 0

好了。

Alright.

Speaker 0

既然背景已经说明清楚了,有没有人有过一次很好的外行星相位,能作为很好的例子分享给我们?无论是正面的还是负面的,你愿意分享你的出生星盘,并花大约三到五分钟谈谈你的经历吗?

So with that setup, I think out of the way, is there anybody that has a good transit, that's had a good outer planet transit that's a really good example that you would be willing to share with us either a positive one or a negative one and that you'd be willing to share your birth chart and just talk about it for let's say like three to five minutes each?

Speaker 0

是的?

Yeah?

Speaker 0

你有吗?

You got one?

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

请到麦克风前。

Come up to the mic.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

你叫什么名字?

What's your name?

Speaker 6

马克·安东尼·蒙托亚。

Mark Anthony Montoya.

Speaker 6

马克。

Mark.

Speaker 6

你的出生日期是什么?

What's your birth date?

Speaker 6

02/28/86。

02/2886.

Speaker 0

你的出生时间是什么时候?

What's your birth time?

Speaker 6

下午2点25分。

02:25PM.

Speaker 0

在什么地方?

In what place?

Speaker 6

科罗拉多斯普林斯,科罗拉多州。

Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

你的上升星座是29度吗?

Is your ascendant at 29?

Speaker 6

是的。

Yep.

Speaker 6

那就是我。

That's me.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

不错。

Cool.

Speaker 0

那我们来看看。

So let's see.

Speaker 0

我不确定是否应该说出星盘位置。

I'm not sure if I should state placements.

Speaker 0

也许不用。

Maybe not.

Speaker 0

也许我们先等等。

Maybe we'll wait.

Speaker 0

你告诉我你的星象过渡是怎样的吧?

Why don't you tell me what your transit was?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 6

就这样吧,是的,我当时就在那段时间。

So so, yeah, I was around that time.

Speaker 6

土星位于摩羯座,所以我的第七宫肯定受到了影响。

Saturn was in Capricorn, so certainly, my seventh house was being affected.

Speaker 6

所以回到2020年3月,一切都很顺利。

So going back to March 2020, things are going well.

Speaker 6

我是在2019年到2020年间搬去拉斯维加斯的。

I recently moved to Las Vegas in 2019 through 2020.

Speaker 6

我之前在丹佛住了大约十年,后来决定搬到拉斯维加斯,为了追求打碟和我的事业。

I went there, lived in Denver for about ten years, decided to move to Las Vegas to pursue DJing and for my career.

Speaker 6

我取得了一些不错的进展,但随后疫情爆发,一切都被迫停摆,于是我迅速决定终止租约,搬回科罗拉多州的普韦布洛,你知道,我现在还在努力重建我的生活。

Made some good inroads, and then COVID hit, shut everything down, and so made a very quick decision to end my lease, move back to Pueblo, Colorado, and, you know, I'm still kind of in the midst of rebuilding my life.

Speaker 6

我喜欢称之为个人的复兴,本质上是这样。

I like to call it a personal renaissance, essentially.

Speaker 6

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 6

所以,我的第七宫确实也产生了影响,不仅影响了我的事业,甚至影响了我对生活中真正重视事物的哲学观——我现在非常热衷于农耕,比如后院种菜。

So certainly, my seventh house has really affected as well as my career and even kinda my my philosophies in terms of what I now value in life in terms of I'm really into farming now, like backyard gardening.

Speaker 6

我是普韦布洛食品项目的成员。

I'm part of the Pueblo Food Project.

Speaker 6

我们专注于食品、农业和可持续发展。

We're all about food, agriculture, sustainability.

Speaker 6

我的北交点位于天蝎座,所以天王星和天蝎座,我觉得这极大地影响了我——一方面,我曾为热爱而追求音乐,现在却突然成了一个园丁。

North Node is in my North Node is in tourists, so Uranus and tourists, I feel like, is really affecting that in terms of, you know, at one moment, I'm pursuing music for for a passion, and now all of a sudden, I'm a gardener.

Speaker 6

对。

Right.

Speaker 6

我从来没想到会把这两者联系在一起。

Never would have thought never would have put those two together.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这可能也是天王星经过你第十一宫的影响,天王星穿越金牛座,涉及社群层面,但同时也是一种突然或意想不到的变化吗?

That would have been some of that Uranus transit through your eleventh house as well of Uranus going through Taurus and the community, but also that being sort of a sudden or unexpected thing?

Speaker 6

没错。

Exactly.

Speaker 6

对。

Yep.

Speaker 6

你刚才说……

What were

Speaker 0

你读完这些之后说了什么?

you saying after you read about that?

Speaker 6

所以,是的,你知道,就连木星和土星的合相也带来了一些有趣的经历。

So so, yeah, you know, really, with even the Jupiter Saturn conjunction had some interesting experiences.

Speaker 6

我的关系那时突然结束了,促使我搬家。你知道,我基本上在2019年去了拉斯维加斯,疫情爆发后,2020年搬回科罗拉多,搬到博尔德,又回到普韦布洛,接着搬去里诺,再回到普韦布洛。

My, you know, kind of relationship had ended at that point somewhat abruptly and prompted me to move, you know I I've essentially, you know, went to Las Vegas in 2019, pandemic hit, moved back to Colorado in 2020, moved to Boulder, came back to Pueblo, moved to Reno, came back to Pueblo.

Speaker 6

所以,在整个过程中,我一直在寻找家的感觉,尽管外界世界充满动荡。

So, you know, throughout the whole process, I'm, you know, just searching to find home in the midst of a lot of external turmoil with the world.

Speaker 6

你知道,我没法工作,尽可能长时间地靠着失业救济,幸好还有政府的救济金。

You know, I wasn't able to work, kind of rode out unemployment as long as I could, you know, so fortunately for the the stimulus money.

Speaker 6

目前,我在一家营销公司工作,正在这方面重建我的事业。

Currently, you know, I'm I'm working you know, I have a job as a at a marketing agency, and I'm rebuilding my career on that point.

Speaker 6

此刻,我的财务状况正处于职业生涯的高峰,但2020年和2021年确实是我在金钱、人际关系以及学会接受生活方面的低谷。

At this moment, I'm actually at a high point in my career when it comes to my finances, but, certainly, 2020, 2021 were really low points in terms of my money game, my relationships, and really just learning how to accept life in general.

Speaker 6

深受维克多·弗兰克尔《活出生命的意义》一书的启发,书中提到,无论外界环境如何,都无法剥夺我积极生活的内在意志。

Really inspired by the book A Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, where he's talks talking about whatever external circumstances may exist, nothing can take away my personal will to live life robustly.

Speaker 6

说起来容易,做起来真的很难,真心如此。

So really easier said than done, sincerely.

Speaker 6

幸运的是,最近几个月我经历了一次木星回归。

And, you know, fortunately, recently, I had a Jupiter return within the last few months.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

你的木星位于双鱼座一度,与你的双鱼座星群相合。

So your Jupiter is located at one degree of Pisces with your Pisces stellium.

Speaker 0

对。

Right.

Speaker 0

不错。

Nice.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这很有道理。

So that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 0

在第二半年里,谈到职业方面以及一些挑战时,另一个显著的星象是2020年的火星逆行,它进入白羊座——早在2020年夏季的6月、7月,火星就已进入白羊座,并落入你的第十宫整宫。

And and during the entire second half, talking about the career things and some of the challenges there, that was one of the other standout transits in the entire second 2020 was the Mars retrograde and the sign of Aries because it moved into Aries over the summer earlier in 2020 right here, June, July 2020, it already moved into Aries and into your tenth whole sign house.

Speaker 0

但到了9月,它减速并开始逆行,随后在这片天区缓慢移动数月,直到2021年初才最终离开白羊座。

But then it slowed down in September and it stationed retrograde and then it just like grinded across those degrees for a few months before it eventually stops and left that sign in early twenty twenty one.

Speaker 6

没错。

Exactly.

Speaker 0

因此,这次火星逆行与你在2020年下半年经历的职业挑战是同步发生的。

So that Mars retrograde would have coincided with some of the challenges in terms of your career, in the second 2020.

Speaker 0

而你提到的关系问题,很大程度上是土星运行带来的影响。

And then you said the relationship stuff and a lot of that was Saturn going through.

Speaker 0

这很复杂,因为你的上升点位于巨蟹座29度,整个摩羯座的行运就像是土星经过你的第七宫。

It's tricky because your Ascendant is so late at 29 degrees of Cancer, that entire Capricorn transit is like Saturn through your seventh whole sign house.

Speaker 0

但即使土星进入水瓶座初期,我记得它停在了水瓶座2度左右,然后又逆行回摩羯座。

But even once Saturn got into early Aquarius, I think it stationed at what, two degrees of Aquarius and then it retrograded back into Capricorn.

Speaker 0

它几乎一整年甚至两年都横跨在你的下降点上,影响了你的一些感情事务。

It was just like straddling your descendant for the better part of a year or two, some of the relationship stuff.

Speaker 0

你说过一段重要的关系结束了?

You said that a major relationship ended?

Speaker 6

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 6

她真的很棒。

She was really cool.

Speaker 6

这段关系突然就结束了,但再次地,我没有试图去争取什么,而是内心让我学会了接受的功课。

It kind of dissolved abruptly, but once again, instead of trying to to fight for something, something internally just made me learn the practice of accepting.

Speaker 6

所以,就像我们现在说的,在2022年,我仍在努力培养这种新的视角和心态,去接受那些我完全无法控制的事情。

So, like, really, as we speak right now in 2022, I'm still working on that new perspective and mindset in terms of accepting things that I really don't have any control of.

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Speaker 6

有了这种领悟,你会感受到更深的幸福与喜悦。

And with that, you know, this brings a deeper sense of happiness and joy.

Speaker 6

但确实,过去一年半以来,由于这段经历,一种完整的人生哲学成为了我专注和实践的核心。

But, yeah, it's like a whole personal philosophy has really, in the last year and a half because of that, I think, really been focus and practice for me.

Speaker 6

我们有一个共同的Instagram好友,叫Riz。

We have an Instagram mutual friend, Riz.

Speaker 6

她是我的阴影工作教练。

She's my shadow work coach.

Speaker 6

在整个过程中,我也一直和她一起工作。

I've been working with her, like, really throughout this process as well.

Speaker 6

因此,这也能解释为什么我对自己作为个体的看法发生了转变,以及我对未来理想健康关系的展望也发生了变化。

So that would make sense as to why my purse my personal viewpoints on myself as an individual have shifted as well as how I foresee an ideal healthier relationship looking in the future.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这很有道理。

That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 0

这确实是土星主题的核心,我认为,有时候要学会识别并放下那些你无法改变的事情,并对此坦然接受,这有点像斯多葛主义的心态。但在土星重大相位期间,这种心态往往非常重要:努力识别出你生活中那些可以改变的事物,并全力以赴去改变你真正能掌控的部分,而不是纠结于那些超出你控制范围的事情,学会接受并放手。

And that's really big Saturn themes, I think, is, like, sometimes learning to identify and let go of the things that you can't change and being okay with that, which is kind of like a stoic mindset, but it can be a very important one sometimes during heavy Saturn transits is trying to identify those things that you can change in your life and fighting to change those things that you actually can control versus sometimes the things that are outside of your control learning to be okay with them and to let them go.

Speaker 0

完全正确。

Totally.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好吧。

So alright.

Speaker 0

所以,这就是土星进入第七宫的相位,而你现在差不多已经走完了土星进入第八宫的三分之二路程,第八宫代表财务领域以及与此相关的一些事情。

So that was Saturn seventh house transit, and then you're about two thirds of the way through the Saturn transit through your eighth house, which represents is one of the financial sectors and just some of the things that go along with that.

Speaker 6

对。

Right.

Speaker 6

所以,你知道,在度过了那些更具挑战性的关系阶段后,我现在正专注于修复我的信用状况,并全力投入房地产领域。

So so, you know, having moved beyond some of the more challenging relationship things, you know, I'm working on getting my credit together, really focused on getting into real estate.

Speaker 6

我对贵金属很感兴趣,因此我制定了一套策略:用银条作为抵押来贷款,再用这笔钱购买更多的银条。

I'm into precious metals, so I figured out a strategy to get silver bullion and get a loan in exchange for it to go buy more silver bullion.

Speaker 6

这是一种新策略,但我在学习如何利用资金来赚取更多钱。

It's a new strategy, but, you know, I'm learning how to leverage money in order to make a little more money.

Speaker 6

所以,是的,我确实在努力完善财务生活中的长期资产配置,这一直是个挑战。

So, yeah, certainly working on those long term asset pieces in my financial, you know, lifestyle, and it's it's it's been a challenge.

Speaker 6

你知道的?

You know?

Speaker 6

就像很多人从2020年到现在,都只是勉强日复一日、靠薪水过活。

Like, literally, like a lot of people in 2020 through up to this point, just getting getting by day to day paycheck to paycheck.

Speaker 6

幸运的是,我现在处境不错,多亏了目前这份工作,以及过去两三年我一直在努力改善信用状况,终于有机会可以申请贷款了。

And fortunately, I'm at a good point now where, once again, because of the current job I have and really working to get my credit put together in the last two to three years, I'm finally in a position to where maybe I can take out a loan.

Speaker 6

我最近首次获得了房屋抵押贷款的预批资格。

I was recently preapproved for a home mortgage for, like, the first time ever.

Speaker 6

不错。

Nice.

Speaker 6

金额不算多,但至少足够让我进入市场了。

It's not a lot, but it's it's enough to at least get into the market.

Speaker 6

所以,是的,我很欣赏土星。

So so, yeah, I I appreciate Saturn.

Speaker 6

你知道吗?

You know?

Speaker 6

就像你说的,天蝎座的月亮那回事,我知道。

I I I like you said the the stoke thing, you know, as a moon in Scorpio.

Speaker 6

某种程度上,我把这当作一种夸奖。

I take that as a compliment to some degree.

Speaker 6

对于土星,我欣赏那种为了长期可持续发展而坚持不懈的精神。

And so with Saturn, I appreciate, like, the long term dedication to something in order to build it for sustainability.

Speaker 6

所以,理想情况下,你知道,在未来几周和几个月里,我能够获得贷款并进入那个领域。

So, yeah, ideally, you know, in the next few few weeks and months, I'll be able to get some loan and get into into that.

Speaker 6

所以,幸运的是,我觉得现在感觉非常好,因为目前有着大量的双鱼座星群。

So, fortunately, I think, really, I'm feeling pretty good right now because of all the Pisces stellium at the present moment.

Speaker 6

海王星在过去将近半年里一直停留在我的natal金星上,所以它真的帮助我专注于当下的愉悦,也重新定义了生命中什么是真正有价值的,比如更加珍惜时间,而不是金钱。

Neptune has been stationed on my natal Venus for the past almost half year or so, so, you know, really helping me focus on just finding pleasure in the moment and also redefining what's valuable in life, so, like, really appreciating time, you know, versus money.

Speaker 6

关于第八宫,我一直在思考如何让被动收入流动起来,这样我就能拥有更多的时间和金钱流入。

And with Eighth House, I was really looking to figure out how to get passive income flowing so I can have more time and money flowing in.

Speaker 6

你知道,说起来容易做起来难,但我受到罗伯特·清崎的启发。

You know, it's easier said than done, but I'm, you know, inspired by Robert Kiyosaki.

Speaker 6

我想最后提一下,大约一个月前我因工作去了迈阿密。

I guess one one last thing I'll mention is I recently went to Miami about a month ago for work.

Speaker 6

我观看了格兰特·卡多内的增长大会。

Got to see Growth Conference from Grant Cardone.

Speaker 6

他就像一个YouTube网红。

He was like a YouTube influencer.

Speaker 6

他曾在《卧底亿万富翁》这档电视节目中出现在普韦布洛,那档节目里他必须在90天内创建一家企业,并使其价值达到一百万美元以上。

He he was in Pueblo for Undercover Billionaire, which was like a TV show where he had to create a business in ninety days and make it worth a million dollars or more.

Speaker 6

所以我现在工作的这家叫Wakeup Pueblo的营销公司,就是这位先生在电视节目中创建的;当时我因为疫情恰好搬回家乡,而他们正好在我家乡拍摄这档节目,因为那里是个经济萧条的地方。

So that's where I actually work right now is a place called Wakeup Pueblo, a marketing agency that this guy created on a TV show during the time where, like, I randomly moved home because of COVID, and they're taping a TV show in my hometown because it's, like, a beat up economic spot.

Speaker 6

他们说,如果你能在这里成功,那你几乎能在全美国任何地方都成功。

And they're like, if you can make it here, you can literally make it anywhere in America.

Speaker 6

所以,几周前我有机会去迈阿密参加他的会议,这真的感觉很不真实。

So the fact that I got to go to his conference in Miami a few weeks ago is just very surreal.

Speaker 6

就像过去几年里,我的感受一直如此。

Like, That's just kind of my feelings in the last couple of years.

Speaker 6

这真的太不真实了。

It's very surreal.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

太棒了,这些都是非常具体的事情。

That's awesome, and those are really concrete things.

Speaker 0

你提到的一些事情,比如债务和贷款,都是第八宫非常具体的象征,这也是我为什么在提到第八宫时会用‘他人之钱’或‘他人资产’这个关键词,因为这些确实是第八宫以非常具体方式体现的方式。

Some of the things you're mentioning of things like debt and loans are really concrete eighth house significations, and that's when I use the keyword at the beginning of other people's money or other people's assets, the assets of others for the eighth house, that's one of the ways that that comes into play in really concrete ways.

Speaker 0

你经历过土星的相位,这真的很棒。

That's really cool that you've had sometimes a Saturn transit.

Speaker 0

当土星关上一扇门时,它会打开另一扇门。

When Saturn will close one door, it opens another.

Speaker 0

听起来这正是你经历土星经过第八宫时的情况,起初的困难或可以克服的挑战,最终却为你生活的这一领域打开了其他机会。

It sounds like that's a little bit of your experience of Saturn going through your eighth house and sometimes an initial difficulty or surmountable difficulty ends up opening up other opportunities in that area of your life.

Speaker 0

太棒了。

Awesome.

Speaker 0

谢谢。

Thank you.

Speaker 0

不错。

Cool.

Speaker 0

谢谢。

Thank you.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

你有过吗?

Did you have one?

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

你叫什么名字?

What's your name?

Speaker 7

艾希莉。

Ashley.

Speaker 0

你的出生日期是?

What's your birth date?

Speaker 7

1982年10月21日。

10/21/1982.

Speaker 0

具体时间呢?

What time?

Speaker 7

下午3点15分。

03:15PM.

Speaker 7

哪个城市?

What city?

Speaker 7

佛罗里达州迈阿密海滩。

Miami Beach, Florida.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

你的上升星座是水瓶座18度吗?

Is your ascendant to 18 Aquarius?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yes.

Speaker 0

不错。

Cool.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

那么你的星盘流年运势怎么样?

What so you what have your transits been like?

Speaker 7

这两年我经历了两次重大的人生流年影响。

Well, I've had two major lifetime transits in two years.

Speaker 7

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

Speaker 7

2020年,我生了一个孩子。

In 2020, I had a baby.

Speaker 7

哇。

Wow.

Speaker 7

所以第一宫是水瓶座。

So first house, Aquarius.

Speaker 7

然后去年和今年,我正在经历离婚。

And then this year last year and this year, going through a divorce.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

去年和今年。

Last year and this year.

Speaker 0

所以土星一直经过你的上升点,这意味着它正在与你的下降点相对,是的。

So Saturn's been transiting over your ascendant, and then that means it's been opposing your descendant Yeah.

Speaker 0

度数,这有时会引发土星所经过的相对宫位的关注。

Degree, which can sometimes create attention in whatever the opposite houses that Saturn's transiting through.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

然后我接连经历了海王星和冥王星的行运。

And then I've had Neptune and Pluto transits back to back.

Speaker 0

你的海王星和冥王星行运具体是什么?

What were your Neptune and Pluto transits?

Speaker 7

火星、月亮、海王星成刑相。

Mars, moon, Neptune square.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 7

还有冥王星、金星、土星、冥王星。

And Pluto, Venus, Saturn, Pluto.

Speaker 0

冥王星位于摩羯座晚期,所以它正在刑克你的……

So Pluto's in late Capricorn, so it's squaring your okay.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

所以你有两个星群,但聚集的是一大堆位于天秤座晚期的行星。

So you have two two stelliums, but the clustering is a bunch of planets in late Libra.

Speaker 0

因此,冥王星一直与这一切形成四分相,包括你上升星座的守护星以及你natal金星在天秤座24度和25度的位置。

So Pluto has been squaring all of that including the ruler of your Ascendant and your natal Venus at twenty four and twenty five Libra.

Speaker 0

而目前位于双鱼座晚期的海王星,正与射手座晚期的火星、月亮和海王星形成四分相。

And then Neptune at in late Pisces at this point is squaring Mars, the moon, and Neptune in late Sagittarius.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这太多了。

That's a lot.

Speaker 2

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 2

确实很多,这是一

It's a lot of it's a

Speaker 0

大量的外行星相位。

lot of outer planet transits.

Speaker 7

我准备好接受一份礼物或一些不同的东西了。

I'm ready for a gift or something different.

Speaker 0

当然。

Sure.

Speaker 7

有人告诉我,经历过剧烈的冥王星相位后,你会收到一份礼物。

I had someone tell me, after you go through crazy Pluto transits, like, you get a gift.

Speaker 7

我就在想,我准备好了。

I'm like, I'm ready.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

对吧?

Right?

Speaker 7

我的意思是,我还在抱有希望。

I I mean, I'm holding on hope.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

有时候冥王星会把我们带入深渊,是的。

Sometimes it Pluto can take us to the depths Yeah.

Speaker 0

深入人类心理和人类经验的底层,但有时我们确实在那里发现一些非常宝贵的东西。

Of, you know, the human psyche and of human experience, but then sometimes we do find things there that are very valuable.

Speaker 0

而挑战在于,如何将这些收获从冥界带回,并在冥王星相位结束后重新浮现。

And then the challenge is then to bring that back up from the underworld and to emerge from that at the end of the transit.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

我还想说,我有一份全职工作,但同时也是一名占星师和前世回溯治疗师。

And I'd also say that I have a full time job, but I'm also an astrologer and a past life regression practitioner.

Speaker 7

因此,我一直在更深入地将灵魂层面的整合融入我的工作中。

So I've been doing a lot more deeper soulful integration into the work that I do.

Speaker 7

所以这很有道理。

So that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

海王星的影响对这一点会很有帮助,我觉得。

The Neptune stuff would be very helpful for that, would think.

Speaker 0

你natal海王星与你的月亮和火星在射手座形成刑相位。

Squaring your natal Neptune as well as your Moon and your Mars up there in Sagittarius.

Speaker 0

还有其他什么情况吗?

What else is going on?

Speaker 0

然后是冥王星的行运,接着是土星的行运,那时你有了第一个孩子。

And then the Pluto transit and then, yeah, the Saturn transit, and you had your first child.

Speaker 0

那是你的第一个孩子吗?

Was it your first child?

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

我的第一个孩子是在2020年8月出生的。

My first child in August 2020.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

八月。

August.

Speaker 7

所以到了三月,你知道,我开始明显显怀了,但那时候我被封锁在家,看起来真的像怀孕了。

So when in March, you know, I've, you know, started to really show, but then I was like locked in and like that's like you really look like you're pregnant.

Speaker 3

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 7

那是在我怀孕后期,正好赶上大规模封锁期间。

And that started like the end of my, you know, pregnancy during that major lockdown.

Speaker 0

这真是太疯狂了。

That's pretty wild.

Speaker 0

所以那正是在三月,土星第一次进入水瓶座的时候。

So that was right when if that was like especially in the March, that's when Saturn went into Aquarius for the first time.

Speaker 7

我有一些同事根本不知道我有了孩子,因为直到封锁期间我都没怎么显怀,而且大部分时间都是远程工作。

I mean, there's people that I work with that didn't even know I had a kid because like I wasn't showing until, you know, you're locked down and then you're just working remotely most of the time.

Speaker 0

明白了。

Got you.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

所以那正是你的第一波身体变化,也就是生理上的转变,基本上就是你怀孕了,或者从2020年3月开始注意到这些变化。

So that was your, like, first house body changes, like physical body changes transit is that you became pregnant basically and or started noticing in March 2020.

Speaker 7

和你的经历类似,虽然不是因为新冠疫情,但产后你会完全没有精力,特别疲惫。

And similar to your story in the sense of it wasn't COVID, but postpartum is you have zero energy, and you're so tired.

Speaker 7

我的身体花了很长时间才慢慢恢复精力。

And it's taken my body a long time to kind of get back the energy.

Speaker 0

从……中恢复过来

To bounce back from

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

从生孩子中恢复过来。

To bounce back from having a kid.

Speaker 7

尽管这很美好、很美妙,但你就是精疲力尽。

And even though it's wonderful and it's beautiful, you're exhausted

Speaker 6

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 7

大多数时候。

Most of the time.

Speaker 7

现在,我终于开始感觉精力在恢复了。

And so now, really just starting to feel like the energy is coming back.

Speaker 4

对。

Right.

Speaker 7

所以我非常能理解你所说的话。

So I really resonated with what you said.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yes.

Speaker 7

情况虽然不同,但本质上还是类似的健康问题。

It's a different situation, but it's ultimately like the same kind of health stuff.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

你正在经历同一个 archetype,即那颗缓慢的旧行星穿过你的第一宫,使得土星的这种 archetype 在身体上显现,某种程度上也在你的精神层面同时体现,以至于一些身体上的状况也在影响你的精神状态。

You're dealing with the same archetype of the old slow planet sort of moving through your first house and having some of that archetype of Saturn manifesting physically in the physical body and to some extent even just in your mental body at the same time to the extent that some of the physical stuff is also affecting your mental state.

Speaker 7

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

百分之百。

A 100%.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

那么,到了十二月,尤其是2021年的大部分时间,木星进入了水瓶座,这是否导致了变化?

Then did that become because by, for example, by December and certainly by most of 2021, you know, Jupiter moved into Aquarius.

Speaker 0

所以我认为这会带来一些帮助,是的。

So I would think that that would have helped a little bit Yeah.

Speaker 0

木星在某种程度上平衡了土星的影响。

With Jupiter sort of balancing Saturn out to some extent.

Speaker 7

完全正确。

A 100%.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

从那时起,我的能量明显好转了。

It was definitely my energy started getting better around that time.

Speaker 4

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 7

木星某种程度上,我觉得这也和减肥困难有关。

And Jupiter kind of I would say I'd also equate that to having difficulty, though, losing the weight.

Speaker 0

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 7

所以我也把这一点联系起来。

So I would tie that there too.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

然后一旦木星越过那个阶段,事情就变得容易多了。

And then because once Jupiter got past that, it it became a lot easier.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 7

所以我确实注意到身体上的变化。

So I did notice that physically.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这是一件占星师常提到的常见现象:木星相位有时虽然是积极的,但当你经历木星通过第一宫时,有时体重会增加。

That's a common thing that astrologers remark on that Jupiter transits sometimes even though they can be positive, sometimes you can gain weight during a Jupiter transit through the first house.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这真的很惊人。

That's really amazing.

Speaker 0

所以你经历了很多。

So you've had a lot.

Speaker 0

这显然表明,你正在经历生命中一些最重要的外行星相位。

This is clearly, you're having some of the most, like, important outer planet transits in your life.

Speaker 0

显然,这对你来说是一个巨大的转折点,

And clearly, this is like it's been a huge turning point for you over the

Speaker 7

过去的这段时间,确实如此。

past Absolutely.

Speaker 0

这几年

Couple

Speaker 5

吗?

of years?

Speaker 5

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

哇。

Wow.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

那么,有没有什么好的星象过渡是你特别期待的?

So are there any transits, like good ones that you're really looking forward to?

Speaker 0

我想木星现在正经过你的第二宫。

I guess Jupiter is going through your second house now.

Speaker 0

它很快就要进入你的第三宫,也就是沟通宫了。

It's about to go into your third house of communication pretty soon.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

当它进入时,我希望能写一本书。

When it does that, I hope to write a book.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 7

那就是我的目标。

That's the goal.

Speaker 7

就像,那就是

Like, that's

Speaker 0

思考或期待写作

the thinking about or anticipating writing a

Speaker 2

一本书?

book?

Speaker 2

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

我的意思是,木星现在到底在哪儿,我们来看看。

I mean, Jupiter's literally let's let's look at where it's at now.

Speaker 0

木星位于双鱼座24度。

Jupiter's at 24 Pisces.

Speaker 0

如果我们把时间推到五月,木星将在5月11日左右进入白羊座,进入你的第三沟通宫。

And if we move it forward in May, Jupiter is going to move into Aries on like May 11, then your third house of communication.

Speaker 0

嗯。

So Mhmm.

Speaker 0

是的,那将是开始写那本书的绝佳时机。

Yeah, that would be an amazing time to write that start writing that book.

Speaker 7

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 7

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

我还想把它和日食的时间对上。

I was gonna line it up with the eclipse too.

Speaker 0

好。

Okay.

Speaker 0

哪个日食?

The which one?

Speaker 7

天蝎座日食

Scorpio eclipse

Speaker 0

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 7

在第十宫。

In the tenth.

Speaker 0

完美。

Perfect.

Speaker 0

所以这个即将来临。

So that's coming up here.

Speaker 0

这也太近了。

That's so soon.

Speaker 0

我们即将迎来第一次天蝎座日食,它将落在你的第十宫,掌管事业和公众声誉。

We're we're about to get our first Scorpio eclipse, and that's gonna fall in your tenth house of career and public reputation.

Speaker 2

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

所以这就是这次日食。

So here is that eclipse.

Speaker 0

好了,就是这样。

There we go.

Speaker 0

大约在五月25号到26号,天蝎座。

May around 2526 Scorpio.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

所以你提到这一点真是太好了,因为这对每个人来说都是一个重大的转变,每个人都应该关注金牛座和天蝎座日食在他们星盘中的位置,因为这会激活这条轴线。

So that's actually that's great that you mentioned that because that's a major shift that's coming up for everybody, and everybody should be paying attention to where the Taurus and Scorpio eclipses are gonna fall in their chart because it's gonna activate that axis.

Speaker 7

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 7

我们共同拥有的房子的出售实际上也发生在本月底,与金牛座日食同时进行。

And selling the house that we own together is happening actually at the end of this month alongside the Taurus eclipse.

Speaker 0

发生在你第四宫的那个,是的。

The one in your fourth house Yes.

Speaker 0

关于家和居住状况?

Of home and living situation?

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

这太完美了。

That's that's perfect.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

你简直是星盘行运的绝佳例子。

You're an amazing chart example for for transits.

Speaker 0

每一个行运都精准地应验了,非常具体。

Like, every one of them is just like nailing it with really literal Yeah.

Speaker 0

有时候,行运会带来心理上或内在性格层面的体验,这同样有效且重要,但有时更难表达清楚。

Sometimes it's like we have psychological or like internal character experiences of transits and that's valid and important, but it can sometimes be harder to articulate.

Speaker 0

但另一些时候,它可能非常具体,就是某个事件恰好与那次行运同时发生。

But other times, it's like it can just be very literal, like this is the event that coincided with that transit.

Speaker 7

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

好吧,即将到来的第四宫日食预示着你将出售房屋,而即将到来的第十宫日食则预示着你将写一本书。

Well, so fourth house eclipse coming up selling your your home, and then tenth house eclipse coming up, and you're gonna write a book.

Speaker 2

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这看起来很不错。

That looks pretty pretty good.

Speaker 3

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

谢谢你与我们分享这些,你一定要告诉我们后续进展

Well, thanks for sharing that with us, and you'll have to let us know

Speaker 1

我会的。

I will.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

当你写书、出版,以及你的星象运势如何影响这件事的时候,记得告诉我们。

When you write the book and when you publish it and what your transits ended up end up being for for that.

Speaker 7

我会的。

I will do.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 7

太棒了。

Awesome.

Speaker 7

谢谢。

Thank you.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

在你听这些故事的时候,有没有其他人也想到了自己的经历,想分享一下,哪怕是很小的一件事?

Is there anybody else that has a transit or anything that's come to mind as you've been hearing some of these stories and you feel like sharing one even if it's like a little one?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

你叫什么名字?

What's your name?

Speaker 4

马尼·鲍尔斯。

Mani Powers.

Speaker 0

你的名字怎么拼?

How do you spell your first name?

Speaker 4

M a n I。

M a n I.

Speaker 0

M a n I。

M a n I.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

你的出生日期是什么?

And how what's your date of birth?

Speaker 4

1947年10月9日。

10/09/1947.

Speaker 0

几点?

What time?

Speaker 4

晚上7点30分。

07:30PM.

Speaker 0

哪个城市?

And what city?

Speaker 4

德尔内特雷。

Del Norte.

Speaker 0

怎么拼写

Spelled

Speaker 4

D E L D

D E L D

Speaker 0

E L?

E L?

Speaker 4

大写的 N O R T E,科罗拉多州。

Capital N O R T E, Colorado.

Speaker 4

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

你的上升星座是金牛座27度吗?

And is your ascendant 27 Taurus?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yep.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

所以在2020年3月12日那天,我喝了一杯含有虫草的咖啡,这是一种蘑菇。

So in March 2020, March 12 exact, I drank some coffee that had cordyceps in it, which is a mushroom.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

这些蘑菇被黑霉污染了。

And the mushrooms were contaminated with black mold.

Speaker 4

哦。

Oh.

Speaker 4

但我很久以后才知道这件事。

And I didn't know that until a long time.

Speaker 4

但那正好是疫情开始封锁的时候

But So that was right when the pandemic was shutting down

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

或者所有地方都在封锁,你不能去急诊室。

Or everything was shutting down, so you couldn't you know, don't go to the emergency room.

Speaker 4

总之,情况很糟糕。

Anyway, it was terrible.

Speaker 4

我最后向我的整脊医生求助,服用了活性碳,好的。

I ended up getting help from my chiropractor and took activated charcoal Okay.

Speaker 4

而且我实际上服用时间太长了,因为说实话,我根本不知道发生了什么。

And actually took it for too long because, you know, didn't know what was happening really.

Speaker 0

对。

Right.

Speaker 4

然后我出现了严重的肌肉痉挛,最终在五月去了急诊室。

And then I ended up with severe muscle spasms and did end up in the emergency room in May.

Speaker 4

花了一年时间才从这次污染中恢复过来。

It took a year to get over the the contamination.

Speaker 2

但是

But

Speaker 4

我看着那张图表,我刚接触占星术,了解得不多,但我觉得我需要弄清楚发生了什么。

I was looking at the chart, and I don't know what I'm just learning astrology, so I don't know it too well, but it seems like I would like to understand what happened.

Speaker 4

对。

Right.

Speaker 4

所以去年十一月

So then this past November

Speaker 0

等一下。

Hold on.

Speaker 0

我们先聚焦这一点,

Let's let's focus on that one first,

Speaker 4

然后

and then

Speaker 0

我们再处理下一个。

we'll do the next one.

Speaker 0

你知道三月大概是哪一天或具体哪天吃的蘑菇吗?

So do you know roughly what part of March it was or what day that you took the mushroom?

Speaker 4

十二号。

The twelfth.

Speaker 0

是十二号?

It was the twelfth?

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

完美。

Perfect.

Speaker 0

好吧。

Alright.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

那就是了。

That's that's it right there.

Speaker 0

所以我一开始看到的是,我在看上升星座的守护星。

So what I was seeing right away was So I was looking at the, the ruler of the Ascendant.

Speaker 0

所以第一宫,就像我之前说的,代表身体以及思想,嗯。

So the first house, as I talked about earlier, represents the body as well as the mind Mhmm.

Speaker 0

你的上升星座和命盘上升点都在金牛座。

And your rising sign in your Ascendant are in Taurus.

Speaker 0

因此,我们要看的一件事是命盘上升点的守护星在哪里,也就是掌管第一宫的行星,因为这颗行星将成为主要行星,承担或代表第一宫的职责,即身体、生理活力以及心智和精神。

And so one of the things we look at is where is the ruler of the Ascendant which is the planet that rules the first house because that planet will become the primary planet that then carries out some of the duties or represents the duties of the first house in the chart which are body and physical vitality as well as, mind and spirit.

Speaker 0

所以你的上升点守护星是金星,它位于天秤座二十五度的第六宫。

So the ruler of your Ascendant is Venus and it's located at twenty five degrees of Libra in the sixth house.

Speaker 0

因此,2020年3月期间发生在摩羯座后期度数的那组摩羯座行星聚集,实际上都在与你位于天秤座二十五度的金星形成刑相位。

So it's at twenty five Libra and so all of those Capricorn transits that were happening in the later degrees of Capricorn in March 2020, that stellium of Capricorn planets was all squaring your Venus basically at that time at 25 degrees of Libra.

Speaker 0

整个星盘中最重要的、移动最缓慢的行星是冥王星,当时它几乎精确地与你的金星形成刑相位。

The most important and like slowest moving planet in the entire chart of which is Pluto and it was squaring your Venus almost exactly at that time.

Speaker 0

但随后,火星在接下来的几周内追上了这一位置,最终与冥王星在摩羯座二十四度和二十五度处相合,并对你的金星形成刑相位。

But then what happened is that Mars would have caught up to that over the next few weeks and eventually conjoined Pluto at 24 degrees of Capricorn and 25 degrees of Capricorn squaring your Venus.

Speaker 0

总的来说,这些星象转移动作可能预示着你当时在活力和健康方面受到了冲击。

You're having basically transits that could have indicated hits to your vitality and health at that time essentially most generally speaking.

Speaker 4

对。

Right.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

所以这是一点。

So that's one thing.

Speaker 0

还有没有人注意到我遗漏的、重要的其他行运,可能也代表了这种情况?

Does anyone else see anything that I'm missing that I'm overlooking that are important transits here that could have represented that?

Speaker 0

那在哪里?

Where is that?

Speaker 0

所以,行运中的天王星,是的。

So transiting Uranus, was it Yeah.

Speaker 0

没错。

That's true.

Speaker 0

天王星正在经过第一宫,并且与位于狮子座五度的火星以及IC形成刑相,这可能会带来一些干扰。

Uranus is going through the first house and it was squaring like Mars down there at five degrees of Leo and as well as the IC, so that can be kind of disruptive.

Speaker 0

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 0

好的

Okay.

Speaker 4

而且我在想,土星与我的第一个土星和月亮形成对冲。

Well, and I wondered about the Saturn in opposition to my first Saturn and the Moon.

Speaker 0

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 0

所以那会是你整个土星对冲相位的开始吗?

So that would have been the start of your whole Saturn opposition transit?

Speaker 4

嗯哼

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这是个好观点。

That's a good point.

Speaker 0

好吧。

Alright.

Speaker 0

然后你刚才提到的最近发生的事件是什么?

And then what was the more recent event you were you started talking Just

Speaker 4

我想再多说一点这个。

to say a little more about this.

Speaker 4

我觉得我实际上经历了一次重生。

So I feel like I actually went through a rebirth.

Speaker 4

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 4

我觉得自己变成了另一个人。

I feel like I'm a different person.

Speaker 4

我曾经长期疲劳,喝咖啡时加了虫草。

So I had had chronic fatigue, cough coffee with cordyceps.

Speaker 4

经历这一切之后,我不再有慢性疲劳了。

And after I came through it, I don't have chronic fatigue anymore.

Speaker 4

哦,天啊。

So Oh, wow.

Speaker 4

你知道,这是一件非常糟糕的事情中的一点积极面。

You know, just a positive thing about a very terrible event.

Speaker 0

但是,好吧。

But Okay.

Speaker 0

所以当时那真的是一件非常艰难的事,但后来你就像进入了冥界,又一次经历了冥王星的行运,但之后你重新 emerged,状态变得更好了。

So it really it was like a really difficult thing at the time, but then And you sort of went into the underworld like again like a Pluto transit, but then you emerged sort of better you're in better shape afterwards.

Speaker 4

对。

Right.

Speaker 4

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 4

那是原因不同吗?

Was that the reason different.

Speaker 0

你服用虫草是因为想缓解慢性疲劳吗?

Was that the reason why you took the cordyceps was that you were trying to address the chronic fatigue?

Speaker 2

对的。

Right.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

这真的很有意思,还有一个原因是,从出生星盘来看,金星作为上升星座的守护星,本就落在掌管疾病的第六宫里。

That's really interesting also just because natally, Venus is in the sixth house as the ruler of the Ascendant is natally in the sixth house of illness.

Speaker 0

有时候如果一个人的星盘里有第六宫的星体配置,这通常预示着人生某个阶段会出现一些身体上的问题,而当事人必须去解决这些问题。

And sometimes when people have sixth house placements, it can indicate physical ailments that come up at some point in the life that the person has to address.

Speaker 0

所以当时那次冥王星过境带来的影响,或许就是推动你去试着解决那个存在了很久的问题。

So maybe that was what that was activating through that Pluto transit at that time was just the the addressing an attempt to fix that long standing issue.

Speaker 4

对。

Right.

Speaker 4

其实我这一辈子也遇到过各种磨难,不过都没把我打倒。

Well, I've had various things in my life that have been challenging but not killed me.

Speaker 0

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 4

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

所以我觉得,你知道,所有这些成就。

So I think that's that, you know, all that success.

Speaker 0

在接受那个治疗之前,你饱受慢性疲劳困扰多久了?

How long had you struggled with chronic fatigue prior to taking that treatment?

Speaker 4

三十年。

Thirty years.

Speaker 0

三十年。

Thirty years.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这本身就像一个完整的土星周期吗?

That's like a full Saturn cycle in and of itself?

Speaker 2

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

好的

Okay.

Speaker 0

所以如果真是三十年,那可能始于上一次土星经过摩羯座并刑克你的上升宫主金星的时候。

So that would have I mean, if it was thirty years, then that might have started the last time that Saturn went through Capricorn and squared your Venus, the ruler of the Ascendant.

Speaker 0

所以三十年后,当这种情况再次出现时,它又一次形成了刑相位。

So then the next time thirty years later that that came back, it squared it again.

Speaker 0

你经历了一次健康危机,但最终还是解决了。

You had a health crisis, but you were able to fix it finally.

Speaker 4

是的

Yeah.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

很好。

Good.

Speaker 4

所以十一月十八日的日食

So the eclipse in November, the eighteenth

Speaker 0

金牛座的日食?

The Taurus eclipse?

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

哦,对的。

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 0

那离你的上升点非常近。

That was very close to your ascendant.

Speaker 0

难道不是吗?

Wouldn't wouldn't it have been?

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yes.

Speaker 4

我遇到了一件非常奇怪的事。

I had a very weird thing happen.

Speaker 4

我都不知道发生了什么。

I don't even know what happened.

Speaker 4

我有一些亲密的朋友说我是被光下载了,但我当时以为自己是心脏病发作或中风了。

I have some close friends that say I was downloaded with light, but I thought I was having a heart attack or a stroke or something.

Speaker 4

那天我去了医院急诊室。

I went to the hospital emergency room that day.

Speaker 4

那正好是日食发生后十二小时,你知道的,然后就出现了。

It was like twelve hours exactly from when it had been the eclipse, and, you know, came out.

Speaker 4

既然我知道自己身体健康,他们说我是血压突然升高。

Knowing that I'm in perfect health, they said I had a blood pressure spike.

Speaker 4

这让我对日食和月亮产生了恐惧,后来切尔西帮我理解到,我正处于第三宫,代表完美。

So that made me afraid of the eclipses and the moon, and then Chelsea helped me understand that I'm in my third house, perfection.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

那么月亮作为这一年行星的主星被激活了?

And so the moon's The moon's activated as the time lord of the planet for the year?

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

所以

So

Speaker 0

那是从十月开始的吧,就在你生日那天?

And that started in October, right, on your birthday?

Speaker 4

是在那之后大约三天。

And it was like three days afterwards.

Speaker 4

我生日后出了车祸,然后事情就接连不断。

After my birthday, I had a car accident and then it just sort of went on and on.

Speaker 0

嗯,这用‘不好笑’来形容并不准确。

Well, and that's not funny is not the right word.

Speaker 0

我经常在遇到好的占星例子时误用这个词,但巨蟹座的完美年对应第三宫,而第三宫也代表短途旅行,比如开车和在城市里出行。

I often misuse that word when it's there's like a good astrology example, but the Cancer perfection year is the third house is also the house of short distance travel, which is like cars and getting around your city.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

所以你在进入第三宫流年后的第三天就遭遇了车祸?

So you got in a car accident three days after you moved into that third house profection year?

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

明白了。

Okay.

Speaker 0

那事故严重吗,还是只是小碰擦?

Was that bad or just a minor thing?

Speaker 4

没有。

No.

Speaker 4

当时我觉得,是宇宙在说:停下吧。

It was you know, I felt like, you know, the universe said stop.

Speaker 4

所以我停了六周,因为六周内我没有车。

And so I was stopped for six weeks because I didn't have a car for six weeks.

Speaker 4

但没人受伤。

But nobody was hurt.

Speaker 4

没什么事,保险全包了。

Nothing, you know, insurance paid for everything.

Speaker 4

一切都很好。

It was all fine.

Speaker 4

我只是该停下来了。

You know, it was just I was supposed to stop.

Speaker 4

然后,到了十一月,另一件事发生了。

And then, you know, then then in November, the other thing happened.

Speaker 4

所以

And so

Speaker 0

你说的是,在日食发生当天或几小时内,你的上升星座度数出现了血压飙升?

And it was a blood pressure spike that happened, you said, the the day or within hours of the eclipse happening on the degree of your ascendant?

Speaker 2

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

每个人都能看到这一点。

And everybody can see this.

Speaker 0

这是2021年11月19日,我们看到月亮从金牛座27度精确运行到天蝎座27度,与太阳形成对冲,而当时的交点位于双子座1度和射手座1度。

Here's 11/19/2021 and we see the Moon going exactly in opposition to the Sun from 27 Taurus to 27 Scorpio and the transiting nodes were at one degree of Gemini and one degree of Sagittarius.

Speaker 0

每当新月或满月发生在交点附近约15度范围内时,就会发生日食或月食。

And anytime a New Moon or a Full Moon takes place within about, let's say, 15 degrees of the nodes, that's when an eclipse takes place.

Speaker 0

因此,这是发生在金牛座的一系列月食中的第一次,但这一次恰好正好落在你的上升星座度数上。

So this was the first in a series of lunar eclipses in Taurus, but this one just happened to fall exactly on the degree of your Ascendant.

Speaker 0

但血压飙升了,他们对此说了什么?结果如何?

And it a blood pressure spike, but what did they say about it, what was the result?

Speaker 4

结果是那之后我出现了焦虑。

The result was I had anxiety after that.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

我不得不应对这种情况,因为它吓到我了。

And I've had to deal with that because it it scared me.

Speaker 4

我的意思是,我当时不知道发生了什么。

I mean, I didn't know what was happening.

Speaker 4

我现在其实还是不太明白。

I still really don't, I mean, understand.

Speaker 2

但是

But

Speaker 4

他们没查出任何异常。

they couldn't figure out anything that was wrong.

Speaker 4

我做了很多很多检查,但什么问题都没有。

I had lots and lots of tests, and there's nothing wrong.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

但你仍然在积极地关注这个问题吗?

But it's still something that you're actively, like, looking into?

Speaker 4

对。

Right.

Speaker 4

嗯,我想让你知道,接下来会有更多的日食发生。

Well, I wanna you know, we're having more eclipses coming.

Speaker 0

当然。

And Sure.

Speaker 4

在天蝎座,我这边有所有这些东西。

In Scorpio, I've got all that stuff over here.

Speaker 4

所以是的。

So yeah.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

对。

So yeah.

Speaker 0

当日食移动到第一宫和第七宫的轴线上时,通常会在这两种主题之间来回切换:一个是关于你自己,另一个是关于他人或人际关系。

So when the eclipses move into the first house, seventh house axis, usually, it can be bouncing back and forth between themes of yourself and then other people or relationships in the person's life.

Speaker 2

嗯。

Mhmm.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

不。

No.

Speaker 4

确实有很多这样的变化正在发生。

Well, there is a lot of change going on that way.

Speaker 4

对。

So yeah.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 0

所以你已经多少预感到一些即将发生的第七宫变化了吗?

So you already sort of anticipate a little bit some of the seventh house changes that are coming up?

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

我觉得是的。

I think so.

Speaker 4

我的意思是,我不知道会发生什么,但确实有很多大事正在发生,嗯。

I mean, I don't know how it's gonna I don't know what's gonna happen with it all, but there's big stuff happening Mhmm.

Speaker 4

和我女儿有关。

With my daughter.

Speaker 4

不是和我直接相关,而是和我女儿有关。

Not with me exactly, but with my daughter.

Speaker 0

好的。

Okay.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

好吧。

So Alright.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

那很好。

Well, that's good.

Speaker 0

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

你有脚吗?

Did you have a foot?

Speaker 2

我会

I would

Speaker 7

当我想到那次发生的事情,你看看你的脖子

when I think of, like, the that incident that happened with the you look at your neck to

Speaker 0

你是在说海王星位于双鱼座20度,与位于 Leah 21度的natal月亮形成合相或三分相吗?

You're talking about transiting Neptune at 20 Pisces being in a in conjunct or quincunx with the natal moon at 21 Leah?

Speaker 7

通常来说,这可能就是为什么你其实并不真正明白那是什么

And usually, it's like that's why maybe you're not really what it was,

Speaker 4

对。

Right.

Speaker 4

我确实不一样了。

I'm definitely different.

Speaker 0

当然。

Sure.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

嗯,我只是想说,有时当我们看到在第一次日食期间出现这样的主题时,它可能会开启一个持续六个月的事件序列,继续探索并观察在这些日食发生时你能发现什么,这会很有帮助。

Well, I would just you know, sometimes when we see themes like that come up during the first eclipse, it can open up a sequence of events in these six month chapters and it can be good to just continue to explore and see what you can find as those eclipses happening.

Speaker 0

它并不总是需要像第一个那样戏剧化,但那个可能只是开启了一系列你深入探究事物的过程,最终或许能在事情真正变成大事之前捕捉或发现某些迹象。

It doesn't always necessarily have to be as dramatic as that first one was, but instead that may have just opened up a series of you looking into things and maybe eventually being able then to catch or find something eventually before it actually becomes a major thing.

Speaker 0

所以我也不必为此太过担心,因为虽然第一个可能是身体上的事件,但后续的有时可能更像是心理上的事件,或你自己以及你与生活中他人关系的内在转变,因为它同时关联着第七宫。

So I necessarily worry about it too much because while that first one may have been like a physical event, sometimes subsequent ones can be more like a mental event or a mental change in yourself and how you relate to other people in your life because it's tying in the seventh house at the same time.

Speaker 4

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

我确实听从了我的直觉。

Well, I definitely listened to my intuition.

Speaker 4

我的意思是,我一直都这样,嗯。

I mean, I always have Mhmm.

Speaker 4

听到了,但并不总是做出正确的反应。

Heard it, not always acted correctly.

Speaker 4

所以现在我会了。

So now I do.

Speaker 5

当然。

Sure.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 4

所以这件事发生了。

So that happened.

Speaker 4

对。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

很好。

Good.

Speaker 0

好的。

Alright.

Speaker 0

是的。

Yeah.

Speaker 0

这真是个很好的观点。

That's a really good one.

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