占星学中的第五宫，第三部分：第五宫的宫主星

但这是凯文·哈特的星盘，他是过去十到十五年间最著名的喜剧演员之一。

But this is the birth chart of Kevin Hart, who's one of the most famous comedians over the course of the past, I don't know, ten or fifteen years.

我们之前讨论的是，由于天秤座上升，且土星掌管着代表娱乐、游戏和喜剧的第五宫，而第五宫的守护星土星正好位于第一宫，与上升度数相合——土星位于天秤座九度，而上升点位于天秤座七度。

And what we talked about was just how having Virgo rising and having Saturn ruling the fifth house of fun and games and comedy, he has the ruler of the fifth house in the first house conjunct the degree of the ascendant where Saturn is at nine degrees of Virgo and the ascendant is at seven degrees of Virgo.

他一个广为人知的 recurring 主题是，他的表演常常聚焦于自嘲式的幽默。

And he famously major recurring theme theme is that his act often focuses on self deprecating humor.

所以我只是想再次提到这一点，因为这是我发现的一个非常有趣的体现：有时候，第一宫代表的是自我，代表的是你。

So I just wanted to bring this up again because that's one of the really interesting manifestations I discovered where sometimes the first house, it represents self in the chart, and it represents you.

而当另一个宫位的守护星落在代表自我的第一宫时，有时很难理解这究竟意味着什么。

And sometimes that can be hard to figure out what that means when the ruler of another house is in the first house of self.

但这是一个非常直接的例子：他经常在喜剧表演中拿自己开玩笑。

But this is a really literal example of it, which is that he is often, like, making jokes about himself in his comedy routine.

因此，这种自嘲式的幽默既体现了土星的特质，也在某种程度上体现了天秤座的特质。

So there's, like, a self deprecating humor to it, which is both Saturn, but also, like, Virgo to some extent as well.

对。

Right.

我也有这种想法，因为土星和处女座各自都能朝这个方向发展。

I was thinking that as well because both of them can kind of go that way, Saturn and Virgo separately.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

没错。

Yeah.

所以，这就是我想提到的最后一个例子。

So that was the last one I wanted to mention there.

让我再举一个例子，我要从我们之前的案例中找一个，就是唐娜泰拉·范思哲。

And let me just do actually, me do one more I'm gonna pull out from our other one, is Donatella Versace.

这是个很好的例子，因为它和我们之前提到的其他例子紧密相关。

It's a good one because it just it ties in with our other examples from the previous ones.

所以这里常常涉及到名字。

So this is where the name is often involved.

这是多娜泰拉·范思哲，她有金牛座上升和月亮位于第五宫整宫制的处女座，第五宫的主宰星水星位于第一宫整宫制的金牛座，与太阳同在。

So this is Donatella Versace who has Taurus rising and the moon in Virgo in the fifth whole sign house, and the ruler of the fifth house is Mercury, which is in Taurus in the first whole sign house along with the sun.

她是一位著名的时尚设计师，掌管着范思哲时尚帝国。

And she's a famous fashion designer of, like, the Versace fashion empire.

我想我之前在另一集的第三宫中提到过，她是在哥哥于上世纪九十年代被谋杀后接管了事业。

I think I talked about previously in another episode in the third house how she took over, especially from her brother after her brother was murdered in the nineteen nineties.

但在那之后，她的名字真正地崛起。

But her name, she's really led after that.

她在上世纪九十年代接管后，将范思哲时尚帝国推向了新的高度，并让‘范思哲’这个家族名字成为奢华、时尚等概念的代名词。

After she took over in the nineteen nineties, she led the Versace fashion empire to new heights and continued to make the family name Versace like a trademark that's associated with like luxury and fashion and all of those other things.

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

太棒了。

That's great.

对。

Yeah.

当名字如此直接地体现在身份上，尤其是与第一宫相关时，真的挺有趣的。

It's really funny when it's as literal as, like, names being part of the identity showing up with the first house.

是的。

Yeah.

这就是为什么我想赶紧把这个例子加进来，因为在这个系列的其他几个例子中，这也是一个反复出现的主题，比如玛丽亚·蒙特梭利，她的第三宫主宰星落在第一宫，而如今她的儿童学校都以她的名字命名。

And that's why I wanted to, like, squeeze this one in here really quickly just because that was a recurring theme in several other examples throughout this series where we had, like, you know, Maria Montessori having the ruler of the third house in the first house, and it was like her you know, children's schools now are, like, named after her.

嗯。

Or Mhmm.

法拉利汽车的创始人，第三宫主宰星也落在第一宫，而如今‘法拉利’这个名字已经与汽车紧密关联。

The founder of Ferrari cars had the ruler of the third house in the first house, and, like, Ferrari is now a name that's associated with cars.

所以这正是对这一主题的延续。

So this is just a continuation of that theme.

是的

Yeah.

当然

For sure.

是的

Yeah.

好的

Alright.

好了，第一宫就讲到这里。

Well, that's it for the first house.

我们接下来讲第二宫吗？

Shall we move on to the second house?

好的

Yes.

走吧

Let's.

第二所房子的第一个例子是海蒂·弗莱斯的出生图，她在上世纪九十年代因经营一家与好莱坞及周边地区高端客户有关的陪侍服务而闻名。

The first example in the second house is the birth chart of Heidi Fleiss who became famous in, like, the nineteen nineties for running, like, an escort service in Hollywood that was connected to, like, high clienteles of of people in in Hollywood and in that area.

她出生时上升星座是水瓶座，第二宫是双鱼座，由木星守护，而木星位于第五全宫星座双子座，第五宫代表性与性欲。

And she was born with Aquarius rising, and the second house is Pisces, and it's ruled by Jupiter, which is placed in Gemini in the fifth whole sign house, which is the place of sex and sexuality.

所以这其中有很多因素在起作用，因为木星同时也守护着第十一宫以及其他一些因素。

So one of the things about this, and there's multiple things going on because it's like Jupiter's also ruling the eleventh house and other things like that.

但其中一点是，在这种情况下，当代表金钱与财务的第二宫与代表性行为的第五宫产生关联时，有时性工作及相关事务就可能在某些情况下出现。

But one of the things is just, in this instance, when there's a connection between the second house of money and finances and the fifth house of sex that sometimes sex work and things related to it can can come into play in some instances.

对。

Right.

所以，是的，她被称为‘好莱坞假日女老板’，基本上在洛杉矶经营着一家高端卖淫团伙。

So, yeah, she became known as, like, the holiday Hollywood madame, and she basically ran an upscale prostitution ring based in LA.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

所以向卡米勒·米歇尔·格雷致敬。

So shout out to Camille Michelle Gray.

我之前就用过这个例子，但还是要向卡米勒致谢，感谢她的研究笔记。

I do I've been used I've used this as an example before, but shout out to Camille for the research notes.

是的。

Yeah.

就这样了。

So that's it.

但其实还有几个类似的例子。

But there's actually, like, a few like that.

我们的下一个例子是安妮·斯普林克尔，她有天秤座上升，第五宫是水瓶座，由土星守护，而土星位于第二宫财务宫。

So our next example is Annie Sprinkle who has Libra rising, and the fifth house is Aquarius, and it's ruled by Saturn, which is in the second house of finances.

安妮·斯普林克尔的情况有点类似，她从事过性工作和性教育等相关领域。

And any sprinkle is kind of it's a sort of similar case of somebody that's worked with sex work and sex education and different things with that like that.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

她曾被称为妓女和色情明星，后来转型为性教育者和艺术家。

She so she was known as the prostitute and porn star that then turned into a sex educator and artist.

她几乎做过所有与第五宫性主题相关的事情。

She's done basically, I don't know, just about anything you could do with fifth house sexuality.

她是一位美国认证的性学家、表演艺术家、前性工作者、电影制作人，也是性工作非罪化的倡导者。

So she's an American certified sexologist, performance artist, former sex worker, filmmaker, and advocate for the decriminalization of sex work.

她被称为第一位获得博士学位的色情明星，获得了人类性学哲学博士学位。

And she's she's known as the first porn star to get a doctoral degree, earning a doctor of philosophy in human sexuality.

她还制作了女性主义和酷儿色情内容，更侧重于基于女性欲望或对女性生殖器理解的色情作品。

And she has also produced feminist and queer pornographic content, content, so focused more on pornography based on women's desires or understanding of female genitalia even.

是的。

Yeah.

这是一个很好的例子，不仅将第二宫与性联系起来，还展现了这种能量在不同方面可能呈现的丰富多样性。

So it's a pretty good example just in terms of tying in the second house and sex, but also that there's just like a full range of what that can mean in terms of, you know, how that can manifest in different ways.

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

她的情况很有趣，她有土星掌管第五宫，但土星还受到金星和木星的相位影响，金星在处女座，木星在第十宫的巨蟹座得势。

She's it's interesting hers she has that Saturn she has Saturn ruling the fifth, but then it's make it's getting overcoming aspects from both Venus and Jupiter by sign, Venus and Virgo, and Jupiter exalted in Cancer in the tenth.

我认为这正是她的第五宫领域如此升华的原因之一。

And I think that's that's part of, like, why her fifth house realm has become, like, so elevated.

她确实因此而广为人知，这也呼应了你一直提到的得势行星这个主题。

Like, she's really known for that and speaking to your, you know, recurring theme about exalted planets.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

Absolutely.

所以，你之前读过这部分内容吗？

So one of the did you already read that part?

但我在维基百科的传记中看到，1996年，她成为首位获得博士学位的知名色情演员，从旧金山的高级性学研究所获得了人类性学哲学博士学位。

But one of the things I saw in the Wikipedia biography was that in 1996, she became the first known porn star to get a doctoral degree, earning a doctorate of philosophy in human sexuality from the Institute of Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco.

是的。

Yes.

我知道。

I do.

她还出演了近200部影片，包括硬核和软核色情片、B级片、循环影片以及众多纪录片。

And she also appeared in almost 200 films, including hard and softcore pornography, b movies, loops, and numerous documentaries.

因此，这在一定程度上体现了第五宫的性与欲望，同时也涉及媒体制作、视频等内容。

So, you know, partly exemplifying the fifth house sexuality, but also the, you know, like media production and videos and so forth.

是的。

Yeah.

所以，举个简单的例子，至少有一部分情况就是：当你的财务与性、性欲紧密关联时。

So anyway, so just example, very straightforward, of at least one piece of it that that is just when your finances are tied in with sex and sexuality.

嗯。

Mhmm.

当然。

Absolutely.

好的。

Alright.

继续。

Moving on.

我找到的下一个例子，与此类似，是约翰·霍姆斯的星盘。

The next one I found, which is in a similar vein, is the birth chart of John Holmes.

而且

And

他是20世纪70年代一位多产的美国色情演员。

He was a prolific American porn star from the nineteen seventies.

他足够出名，以至于成为电影《性、谎言和录像带》的主角，有些人可能还记得。

He was became famous enough to be the subject of the film Boogie Nights, some people may remember.

所以，他的第五宫主宰星——代表性与欲望——位于第二宫，即收入与生计宫。

So he has the ruler of the fifth house, sexuality in the second house of income and livelihood.

土星在第五宫，你有他的星盘吗？

Saturn in the fifth you have the the chart yet?

所以土星在夜盘中也会位于第五宫，而他后来死于与艾滋病相关的疾病。

So Saturn's gonna be in the fifth house in a night chart as well, and he did later die of AIDS related illness.

因此，尽管他有第五宫（性）与第二宫（收入与生计）之间的联系，但他还有与昼夜分性相悖的凶星位于第五宫，这最终也成为他人生故事的一部分——与性相关的非常负面的经历。

And so that would be like you know, even though he had the connection between the fifth house of sexuality and the second house of income or livelihood, he he also had the malefic contrary to sect in the fifth house, and eventually that was part of his life story as well, something very negative related to sex.

是的。

Yeah.

这是他的星盘。

So here's the chart.

应该是双鱼座上升，第五宫整体宫位为巨蟹座，宫主星是月亮，位于第二宫。

It should be Pisces rising with Cancer on the fifth whole sign house, and the ruler is the moon, which is in the second house.

所以这就是第五宫和第二宫之间的联系，基本上是通过性相关的事情、拍摄色情影片和在镜头前发生性行为来谋生。

And so that's the connection between the fifth and the second and just, you know, making a living basically from doing sexual related things, doing pornography, and having sex on camera.

然后你刚才提到夜盘中土星位于第五宫。

And then you were talking about the Saturn in in the fifth house in the night chart.

嗯嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

而且至少在人生的某个阶段，性方面出现了非常负面的结果，比如通过性行为感染了HIV。

And just, you know, having having a very negative outcome at least at one point in the life with regard to sexuality, and so contracting HIV from sex.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Alright.

让我看看下一个例子是什么。

Let me see what our next example is.

我觉得是洛克·赫德森。

I think it's Rocks Rock Hudson.

是的。

Yeah.

所以我们的下一个例子是洛克·赫德森，他的星盘是天秤座上升，第五宫整体宫位是水瓶座。

So our next example is Rock Hudson, and this is the birth chart he had Libra rising and Aquarius on the fifth whole sign house.

而主宰星是土星，位于天蝎座的第二宫，与太阳和火星同在。

And the ruler is Saturn, which is placed in Scorpio in the second house along with the sun and Mars.

洛克·赫德森是一位著名的好莱坞演员，他在20世纪50年代左右就是同性恋，那是很早以前的事了。

And Rock Hudson was, like, a famous Hollywood actor who was gay in the '19, like, fifties and that sort of, like, time frame, like, really early on.

但我选择这个例子是因为，到了20世纪80年代中期，他感染了艾滋病并去世了，而我相信，那时他公开了性取向，人们才得知他是同性恋。

But I wanted to use this example because what happened is that in the nineteen mid nineteen eighties, he got AIDS and and died, but he came out, I believe, and it became known that he was gay at that time.

但在他早年，他一直有恐惧——作为一位大牌好莱坞演员，他必须隐藏自己的性取向，因为一旦曝光，他的生计就会受到威胁。

But earlier in his life, there were, like, fears, basically, where he was a big Hollywood actor, but he had to stay in the closet because if he didn't, like, his livelihood would have been threatened, basically.

如果当时他被曝光，就会失去作为演员的收入来源。

Like, he would have lost his livelihood and ability to make income as an actor if he had been outed at that time.

所以我提一下这个，因为有时候土星可以代表恐惧，就像在现代心理占星学中常讨论的那样，土星象征着恐惧。

So I'm gonna bring this up because, you know, sometimes Saturn can represent fear, like in, like, modern psychological astrology that's commonly talked about is, like, Saturn representing fears.

在这个例子中，他可能会对性与性取向被公开产生极大的恐惧，因为这会直接影响他的生计。

And in this instance, like, he would have had, like, major fears concerning sex and sexuality becoming known because it would have directly impacted his ability to make a living.

我认为这与土星掌管第五宫（代表性与性取向）并位于第二宫和夜盘有关。

And I think this is tied in with Saturn ruling the fifth house of sex and sexuality and placed in the second and night chart.

有趣的是，土星也非常接近太阳，因此处于日光之下，传统上认为，距离太阳15度以内的行星会带有隐秘的特质。

And it's interesting because Saturn is also very close to the sun, so it's under the beams, which brings traditionally like a hidden element to planets that are under the beams within 15 degrees of the sun.

我想，这正是他星盘中发生的事情的一部分。

And that's part of, I think, what was going on there in his chart.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

这是一种有充分根据的恐惧。

And it was a well founded fear.

我的意思是，在他名气巅峰的五十年代和六十年代，好莱坞运作方式类似于一种非正式的‘紫色恐慌’——抱歉，这个词重复了——这与反共的‘红色恐慌’相呼应。

I mean, because at the height of his fame, it was in the fifties and sixties, Hollywood operated kind of like under an unwritten the period was called often called a lavender scare scare scare, sorry, which kind of paralleled the anti communist red scare.

所以在电影行业，演员们的公众形象被精心塑造和控制，以确保他们体现所谓的美国价值观。

So in the film industry, you know, people's actors' personas were kind of carefully cultivated and controlled to be sure that it you know, they exemplified, like, all American values.

对吧？

Right?

而当时，同性恋并不在这些价值观之内。

And that did not include being queer at the time.

因此，他的银幕形象实际上被塑造成一个粗犷的异性恋男子。

And so he was actually known as, like, this rugged heterosexual guy as his, like, film persona.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

所以

So

我刚想再说一件事。

I was just gonna say one more thing.

你知道，第五宫的主宰星和第四宫的主宰星在第二宫，这很有趣。

You know, it's interesting it's the ruler of the fifth and the ruler of the fourth in the second.

对吧？

Right?

因为我们之前讨论过第四宫，就像那些隐藏的事物。

Because we've talked about the fourth house, you know, previously as, like, hidden things.

所以这有点把这两件事联系在了一起。

And so it was, like, kinda tying together those two things.

而且他还有金星在第四宫，因此也隐隐呼应了同一个问题。

And he also has Venus in the fourth, so just sort of echoes of the same issue.

是的。

Yeah.

绝对如此。

Absolutely.

上升宫的守护星也在第四宫，同时土星也守护第四宫，因为我们之前在第四宫的节目中深入讨论过隐藏的事物，第四宫是星盘中最隐秘的部分，因为它直接位于你脚下，大地之下。

With the ruler of the Ascendant in the fourth as well as Saturn ruling the fourth because we talked extensively in the fourth house episode about hidden things and the fourth being the most hidden part of the chart because it's directly below your feet under the earth.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

所以这可以将性与他的表演这两个主题，与隐秘性、某种隐藏的东西直接联系起来。

So that can literally tie together those two topics of, like, sexuality and his acting with, like, hiddenness, something hidden.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

Definitely.

好的。

Alright.

那我们继续吧。

So let's keep moving.

另一个当代的例子发生在不同领域，就是鲁珀特·默多克的出生图，他是一位著名的媒体大亨，掌控着福克斯新闻以及其他一些媒体机构。

Another contemporary example in a different area is the birth chart of Rupert Murdoch who is a famous, like, media mogul that runs, like, Fox News and other things like that.

但他上升星座是摩羯座，第五宫整体星座是金牛座，第五宫的主宰星金星位于第二宫，并且呈骑士冲锋相位。

But he has Capricorn rising, Taurus on the fifth whole sign house, and the ruler of the fifth house is Venus, which is placed in the second house in a knight charge.

因此，第五宫（子女）的主宰星与第二宫（财务）之间存在关联。

So there's a connection between the ruler of the fifth house of children and the second house of finances.

有趣的是，多年来一直有一场法庭诉讼，他的孩子们在法庭上为信托基金和他去世后谁将继承他的媒体帝国而争斗不休。

And what was interesting is, like, there's been this court case for years where his children have been battling in court over the trust and, like, who will inherit his media empire basically after he dies.

他的孩子们彼此之间为此激烈争执。

And his children have been fighting with each other over it.

我一直用这个例子来说明，因为这件事已经持续了相当长一段时间。

And I've been, I think, using that as an example for a while because that's been ongoing for a while at this point.

但据我所知，最近刚刚达成和解。

But it was in I think it was just recently settled.

几天前我在新闻上看到一条标题，说他那位在政治或意识形态上与他立场一致的主要儿子，将成为主要继承人，而他的其他孩子已同意接受一笔仅数亿美元的和解协议。

I saw a headline in the news, like, a few days ago that, like, his main son who's, like, politically or ideologically on the same page as him is gonna be the main one that takes over, and his other children have agreed to some settlement of only a paltry billion dollars or something like that.

仅仅如此。

Only.

是的。

Yeah.

可怜的性生活。

Sad sex.

对他们来说真遗憾。

That's too bad for them.

我的意思是，你得靠自己努力，仅靠一百万美元就能撑下去吗？

Mean, you've got to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and just get by with what little With 1,000,000?

没错。

Exactly.

有趣的是，显然子女这一部分在这里非常相关。

Well, it's funny, too, that, I mean, obviously the children piece is very relevant here.

但同样，他通过媒体赚取收入这一基本前提也很重要，对吧？

But also just the basic premise that he's earned his income through media, right?

这就像第五宫和第十宫的主宰星落入第二宫，作为 sect 的吉星。

And it's like the ruler of the fifth and tenth in the second house as the benefic of sect.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

好吧。

All right.

那我们来看看。

So let's see.

接下来看下一张图。

Moving on to the next chart.

我在我教授的希腊占星课程中，多年来一直使用的一个经典案例，是我当初研究宫主星时为课程准备的，那就是著名说唱歌手和音乐制作人德雷医生的出生图。

One of the classic ones I've been using for over a decade now in my Hellenistic course that I originally researched when I was researching the rulers of the houses for some lectures I have in my Hellenistic astrology course about this is the birth chart of doctor Dre, who is a famous rapper and music producer.

他出生时上升星座是双子座。

And he was born with Gemini rising.

而巨蟹座是代表财务的第二宫，由月亮主宰，而月亮恰好落在第七宫的天秤座中。

And Cancer is the second house of finances, and it's ruled by the moon, which is, like, placed in the fifth whole sign house in Libra.

月亮正形成一个非常和谐的三分相，与金星相合并带有互容，这极大地改善了金星的状态，强化了它的能量，使其变得极其幸运和成功。

And it's applying to this really nice trine with Venus with reception, which is really improving and what we could call bonafying the condition of Venus and, like, affirming it and making it super lucky and successful.

他曾创办了一家耳机公司，即Beats Electronics或Beats耳机。

And at one point, he started, like, a headphone company, which was Beats Electronics or Beats headphones.

后来，这家公司被苹果以十亿美元左右的惊人价格收购。

And then they sold it to Apple at one point for, like, a billion dollars or some crazy amount of money.

有一段时间，我认为他因此成为了世界上最富有的音乐人。

And for a period of time, I think it made him, like, the richest musician in the world for for a period of time.

哇。

Wow.

是的。

Yeah.

这非常字面。

That's very literal.

不只是谋生，而是与第五宫事物相关的物品或产品，比如听音乐。

Like, not just making a living, but also, like, an object or a product, like, related to fifth house things, like listening to music.

对。

And Right.

不只是金星带着接纳相位改善了它的品质，而且金星还位于事业的中天。

That not just applying to Venus with reception improving its quality, but that Venus also being on the midheaven of career.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

对。

Right.

没错。

Exactly.

所以这是一个很好的例子，说明第五宫的事物带来了良好的财务收益。

So that's a really positive example of, like, good financial things coming from fifth house things.

嗯。

Mhmm.

当然。

Definitely.

好的。

Alright.

接下来的例子是芭芭拉·卡特兰。

So moving on, the next example is Barbara Cartland.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的

Yeah.

我是在搜索命盘和宫位的时候发现她的。

I found her when I was searching for, you know, rulers and houses.

她有白羊座上升，第五宫是狮子座，金星落在第五宫的狮子座，而且是夜盘，没错。

And she has Aries rising and the fifth house is Leo with Venus placed in Leo in the fifth house in a night chart, and then right.

第二宫是金牛座。

The second house is Taurus.

所以她的第二宫主星位于第五宫，而金星是夜盘的吉星。

So she has the ruler of the second in the fifth, which is the benefic of sect by night.

她是一位英国作家，出版过当代和历史言情小说。

And she was an English writer who published both contemporary and historical romance novels.

这不仅是因为她通过创意创作谋生——这确实与这个星盘配置密切相关，而且她谋生的方式本身就是‘爱情’这个主题，这又是第五宫的另一个含义。

And so it's not just that she earned her living through creative output, which she did and is very relevant to that placement, but it also literally the topic of romance is like how she made a living, which is another fifth house signification.

我还顺便想到，挺有意思的是，她的第四宫主星是巨蟹座，月亮位于白羊座，与上升点即第一宫相合。

I also thought as an aside, was funny that she also has that ruler of the fourth house of Cancer, the moon is an Aries conjunct the ascendant, the first house.

我认为这正是她的历史背景部分，你知道，她不仅关注当代故事，也专注于历史题材。

And I think that's the historical piece, like she she, you know, had a personal focus on historical stories as well as contemporary.

事实上，她是二十世纪全球最畅销的作家之一。

So she's she's one of the best selling authors worldwide of the twentieth century, actually.

这恰恰证明了我之前没读过浪漫小说，所以直到看到她的星盘才了解到这些。

It's just testament to my not reading romance novels that I didn't know that before finding her chart.

但她写了723部小说，简直不可思议，她的书销量超过了7.5亿册，尽管其他一些资料显示她的总销量超过20亿册。

But she wrote 723 novels, incredibly, and she sold more than 750,000,000 copies of her books, though some other sources estimate her total sales at more than 2,000,000,000.

所以，这真是一个绝佳的例子，既说明她的生计与创意艺术产出紧密相关，也直接体现了浪漫这一主题作为第五宫的象征。

So it's just a really great example of both one that her livelihood was connected to that creative artistic output, but also literally the topic of romance as the fifth house.

是的。

Yeah.

太完美了。

That's perfect.

我喜欢这个。

I love that.

是的。

Yeah.

太棒了。

Brilliant.

好的。

Alright.

很好的例子。

Great example.

所以我想在这部分简单提一下两个人，其中一个是皮埃尔-奥古斯特·雷诺阿，一位著名的艺术家。

So there are just two I wanted to mention really briefly in this section and because one of them is Renoir, Pierre Auguste Renoir, who's a famous artist.

他的上升星座是水瓶座。

And he has Aquarius rising.

双子座是第五宫的整个星座，而水星是掌管第五宫——创造力、艺术与创作的主宰星，它位于第二宫——财务宫。

Gemini is the fifth whole sign house, that Mercury is the ruler of the fifth house of of creativity and and art and creation, and it's in the second house of finances.

而且它与木星形成了相克的四分相，木星位于射手座。

And it has this overcoming square, the superior square from Jupiter, is in Sagittarius.

我想把这位艺术家的星盘与克劳德·德彪西的星盘做个对比，德彪西是另一位来自十九世纪末或二十世纪初的著名艺术家，他的上升星座是狮子座，第五宫落入射手座，由木星守护，而木星位于代表财务的第二宫，但与土星相合。

And I wanted to contrast his chart as an artist with the chart of Claude Debussy, who's another famous artist from, you know, late nineteenth or early twentieth century who had Leo rising, Sagittarius on the fifth house ruled by Jupiter, which is placed in the second house of finances, but it's conjunct Saturn.

所以他的境况没那么好。

So it's like not as well off.

这其实是两个著名艺术家的例子，他们都试图靠艺术和创造力谋生。

And it's like two instances of famous artists who, you know, had to tried to make a living from their art basically and from creativity.

有趣的是，雷诺阿在世时，通过艺术创作获得经济成功和财务稳定，比德彪西更成功。

And what was interesting is that Renoir was more successful basically in making a living from his art during his lifetime and achieving financial stability through having like commercial success and wealth during his lifetime.

而德彪西在世时，从艺术作品中获得的经济成就则要脆弱得多。

Whereas Debussy's financial situation was much more precarious in terms of his financial success from his artwork in his lifetime.

这种差异部分体现在某些星盘配置的吉凶上——有些配置通过相位带来更积极的象征意义，有些则带来更具挑战性的象征意义。

And it's partially reflected there just by the auspiciousness or inauspiciousness of certain placements that are having more affirming significations through the aspects or having more challenging significations through the aspects.

因此，我想提一下这个更广泛的话题，供人们思考或留意：有些艺术家能获得经济上的成功，或者说在创作中幸运地获得财富；而另一些艺术家却难以或无法靠艺术谋生，这两者之间的区别。

So I wanted to mention that as part of, like, a broader topic that people could think about or pay attention to sometimes is that distinction of, like, an artist who becomes financially successful or or let's say is is fortunate or becomes lucky in becoming financially successful in their creating their work versus another artist who struggles to or isn't able to make a living doing their art or what have you?

是的。

Yeah.

这个对比太棒了。

That's a great comparison.

发现得真好。

Nice find.

是的。

Yeah.

因为第一个配置明显更顺利，而这里土星合相，你知道，土星代表延迟或阻碍。

Because, yeah, the first one was much more affirmed, and then here with the Saturn conjunction, you know, Saturn indicating delays or blockages.

所以其他方面配置基本相同，但确实被相位改变了。

So it's like the same setup otherwise, but, you know, definitely altered by the aspects.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

对。

Yep.

好的。

Okay.

我觉得这样对第二宫来说不错。

I think that's good for the second house then.

那我们继续吧？

So shall we move on?

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yes.

我们走吧。

Let's.

太好了。

Cool.

好的。

Alright.

那么我们现在来看第三套房子。

So now we move on to the third house.

我想分享的第一个例子，我昨天已经提过了，就是杰克·吉伦哈尔的星盘。

And one of the first examples I wanted to share that I already shared yesterday was the birth chart of Jake Gyllenhaal.

杰克·吉伦哈尔，出生时上升星座是狮子座。

Jake Gyllenhaal, who was born with Leo rising.

他是一名演员，上升星座的守护星是太阳，位于第五宫的射手座，与金星、水星和海王星形成群聚，太阳也位于第五宫。

He's an actor, and the ruler of the ascendant is the sun, which is in Sagittarius in the fifth house along with the stellium of Venus, Mercury, and Neptune, and the sun in the fifth house.

但有趣的是，第五宫的守护星是木星，位于天秤座的第三整宫。

But what's interesting is he has the ruler of the fifth house is Jupiter, which is in Libra in the third whole sign house.

而第三宫的守护星是金星，位于射手座的第五宫。

And then the ruler of the third house is Venus, which is in Sagittarius in the fifth house.

因此，他实际上在第三宫和第五宫的守护星之间形成了互容关系，正如我们在星座系列的其他部分中所见，当存在互容或两颗行星交换星座时，总会在这两个宫位之间建立非常强烈的联系。

So he actually has a mutual reception between the rulers of the third and the fifth house, which as we've seen in other installments in the houses series, always creates a very strong connection between those two houses when there's a mutual reception or when the two planets are exchanging signs.

有时，这种联系会成为人生中一个显著的特征，这两个宫位之间有着紧密的关联。

And sometimes it becomes like a distinctive part of the life, those two houses having a connection.

对他来说，情况是这样的：他长大后，有一个名叫玛吉的姐姐，比他更早进入演艺圈。

And for him, what it was is that he grew up and he had an older sister named Maggie who got into acting before he did.

据称，他受到启发去从事表演的部分原因，是看到姐姐在表演中获得的快乐，这激励他追随她的脚步。

And he reportedly said that part of his own inspiration for getting into acting was, you know, kind of, like, seeing how much joy that his sister had in acting and that it inspired him to, like, follow in her footsteps or in her path.

最终，他们确实共同出演了三部电影，包括广受追捧的cult经典《吉尔莫·德尔·托罗的幽灵世界》中，他们饰演了片中的兄妹。

And eventually, they actually appeared in three different films together, including the cult sort of hit Donnie Darko where they actually played siblings in that movie.

是的。

Yeah.

这太棒了。

That's great.

这两个宫位之间有着如此惊人而强烈的联系，确实非常突出。

That's an amazing really strong connection between those two houses that really stands out.

对。

Yeah.

好的。

Alright.

所以这就是那个例子。

So that is that example.

接下来，我在这项研究中发现的一个最喜爱的例子是塞雷娜·威廉姆斯，她是一位著名的网球运动员，曾经是世界排名第一的顶尖网球选手。

And then moving on, one of my favorite examples that I found during this research project, like, just out of all of the rulers of the houses ones is Serena Williams, who's a famous tennis player, like the the leading tennis player in the world at one point in time, the number one tennis player.

她出生时上升星座为金牛座，第五宫是处女座。

And she was born with Taurus rising, and the fifth house is Virgo.

在夜盘中，第五宫里唯一存在的行星是月亮。

And the only planet we find in the fifth house is the moon there in the fifth house in the night chart.

因此，月亮实际上是命盘的主星，使其成为更重要的光体。

So it's actually the sect light, which makes it the more important luminary.

有趣的是，月亮掌管着代表兄弟姐妹的第三宫，而天底（IC）也位于第三宫。

And what's so fascinating is the moon is ruling the third house of siblings, and the IC is also placed in the third house.

实际情况是，她的父母，尤其是父亲，培养她和她的姐妹——塞雷娜和维纳斯·威廉姆斯——打网球。

And what happened is that her parents and especially her father raised both her and her sisters, Serena and Venus Williams, to play tennis.

他当时到底有什么样的计划呢？

And he had, like, this entire what was it?

就像一份长达78页的计划，详细规划如何让他们成为世界顶尖的网球选手。

Like, 78 page outline of, like, a plan to make them, like, the number one tennis players in the world.

于是两位父母一起训练这对姐妹打网球，这正体现了第四宫的父母与第三宫的兄弟姐妹之间的关联。

And so the two parents trained the two siblings in tennis together, which is like the IC and the third house of siblings.

因此，第四宫所代表的父母与家庭意义被引入到了第三宫的兄弟姐妹领域。

So it's importing fourth house parents and family significations into the third house of siblings.

而掌管这一宫位的是月亮，它位于第五宫，代表游戏、运动等事物。

And then the ruler of that is the moon, which is in the fifth house of games and sports and things like that.

当然，塞雷娜·威廉姆斯后来成为了世界顶尖选手，但另一方面，她的姐姐维纳斯才是第一个进入职业网球界的。

And then, of course, Serena Williams would go on to become the number well, on the one hand, her older sister Venus was the one that got into the professional sport first.

塞雷娜经常提到，她基本上是沿着姐姐已经开辟的道路前行，姐姐是开拓者，为她铺平了道路，而她则紧随其后。

And Serena often talks about, like, following the path that her her sister had already laid out for her essentially or had been a trailblazer in and, like, making it possible and following in her footsteps.

最终，两人先后成为世界第一和第二，彼此之间也展开了对决。

And then eventually, the two of them would go on to be, like, the number one and number two players so that they eventually would compete against each other.

我认为，最终塞雷娜成为了世界排名第一的选手，并在总胜场数上胜出。

And I think in the final count, Serena ended up becoming the, like, number one player in the world and sort of winning out in the total number of matches.

但我真的对这张星盘中第三宫（兄弟姐妹）和IC（代表父母）与第五宫（游戏与运动）之间如此直接的关联印象深刻。

But I was just really impressed by how the third house of siblings and the IC representing parents was tied in with the fifth house of games and sports in a very literal way in this chart.

是的。

Yeah.

这些星盘因素的组合真是完美。

Really perfect combination of chart factors.

塞雷娜有一句很动人的话：如果没有维纳斯，就不会有塞雷娜。

And there was this lovely quote by Serena that said, there would be no Serena if there wasn't a Venus.

她打开了那扇门，而我跑了进去。

She burst open that door and I ran through.

这简直就是对‘第三宫主宰者落入第五宫’这一配置的完美而直接的诠释——兄弟姐妹的主宰者落在运动与游戏的第五宫，而这正是星盘中至关重要的命定之光。

And it's just such a perfect and literal illustration, right, of that ruler the third in the fifth of you know, ruler the third of siblings being the fifth house of games and sports and that being the important sect light in the chart.

因此，她姐姐先走出了这一步，这在她的生命故事中至关重要。

So it's really just primary to her her life story that her sister did this first.

没错。

Right.

当然。

Absolutely.

是的。

Yeah.

毫无疑问。

For sure.

你和我几年前一起看过那部关于这个的威尔·史密斯电影《国王理查德》。

And you and I watched that Will Smith movie King Richard from a few years ago that was about this.

嗯。

So Mhmm.

你可以看到他们生活故事的戏剧化呈现，焦点放在他们的父母如何培养他们打网球。

You can kind of watch like a dramatization of their life story and centered on their father and mother being the ones raising them to play tennis.

这非常直接而生动。

And it's just a very literal and vivid.

那其实是一部非常好的电影。

It was actually a really good movie.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

就像是把那种成长轨迹给具象地呈现了出来。

Like demonstration of that chart placement.

对。

Right.

而且还有个很有意思的点，就是我们其实不清楚现实里这种情况到底占多少，但大威先是被送去接受专业训练了，因为在父亲最开始带着他们入门之后，家里只付得起一个孩子接受专业 coaching 的费用。

And there was actually this interesting point that, you know, we didn't know to what extent this happened in real life, but where Venus was kind of taken for coaching first and they could only pay for one child for professional coaching after the the father initially got them started.

当时大威愿意接受专业教练的指导，而小威就不太高兴自己被落下了，于是有那么一段时间，她的妈妈开始更严格地指导她打球。

And so Venus was into coach being coached by the professional coach, and Serena was kind of like not happy about this being left behind, and her mom was the one who then was coaching her more strongly for at least some period of time.

我们之前都在琢磨这件事，你看，巨蟹座上升点落在第五宫、受月亮主宰，这在多大程度上对应了她妈妈其实对她的职业生涯产生了更强的影响。

And we were both wondering about that, you know, Cancer IC being ruled by the moon in the fifth house and whether, you know, to what extent that was actually her mom having even a stronger influence on on her career.

对。

Right.

确实是这样。

For sure.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

那部电影的精彩之处在于，塞雷娜的第三宫主星和天底都在第五宫，而电影的主角威尔·史密斯饰演了她们的父亲，抚养自己的女儿和其他孩子。

And then what was cool about that, also that movie is like, you know, it's like Serena has the ruler of the third and the IC in the fifth, but then, like, the star of the movie was like Will Smith who was playing their father raising his daughters and other children.

正如我们在上一期节目中讨论的，他很可能将上升宫主星放在了第五宫，并且因这个角色赢得了奥斯卡奖。

And he, as we talked about in the last episode, probably has the ruler of the ascendant in the fifth, and he won an an Oscar for that role Right.

扮演这位抚养出世界上两位最伟大网球冠军的父亲。

Playing playing the role of the father raising, like, the two biggest tennis champions in the world.

电影结尾时，一首碧昂丝的歌曲开始播放。

And then at the end of the movie, the movie ends with a Beyonce song that starts playing.

而碧昂丝，正如我们在上一期节目中看到的，上升宫主星位于第五宫。

And Beyonce, as we saw in the last episode, has the ruler of the ascendant in the fifth house.

所以这简直就是第五宫人物的集中展现。

So it's just like fifth house people, like, the way down.

是的。

Yeah.

我们看的时候一直在笑，尤其是结尾部分。

We were we were laughing about that as we were watching it, especially at the end.

更加第五宫了。

We're like, more fifth house.

更甚了。

More.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

而且那首歌是碧昂丝专门为这部电影创作的，这更棒了。

And that and it was also like a song that was made specifically for the movie by Beyonce, which was additionally cool.

好了。

Alright.

那么我们继续吧。

So let's move on.

我的下一个例子是本·阿弗莱克。

My next one is Ben Affleck.

这是他的出生星盘。

Here is the birth chart.

本·阿弗莱克出生时巨蟹座上升，而天蝎座是第五宫的整宫星座，月亮就落在那里。

Ben Affleck was born with, yeah, Cancer rising, and Scorpio is the fifth whole sign house where we find the moon.

所以实际上，他上升星座的守护星位于第五宫，而他是一位著名的演员，也成为了著名演员。

So he actually has the ruler of the ascendant in the fifth house, and he's a famous actor and has become a famous actor.

但我发现他的星盘中有趣的一点是，第五宫的守护星是火星，而火星位于第三宫。正如我们在第三宫那一集中讨论的，第三宫代表兄弟姐妹，但也代表朋友。

But what I found was interesting about his chart is he has the ruler of the fifth house is Mars, which is placed in the third house, which is like as we talked about in the third house episode, the third house is siblings, but it's also friends.

它还代表你附近的社区、你家周围的人，以及你所在城市周边的环境。

It's your local neighborhood and people around your house, in the vicinity of your house, and, like, the city around you.

有趣的是，他是在母亲们因为住在同一个社区而相识后，两位母亲安排他们一起参加玩伴活动时，结识了朋友马特·达蒙。

And what was fascinating about that is he met his friend, Matt Damon, when their two mothers because they lived in the same neighborhood, and their two mothers got together and then put them on, like, a play date together.

所以马特·达蒙和本·阿弗莱克因为住在彼此的社区里，成了亲密的朋友。

And so Matt Damon and Ben Affleck became friends, close friends, because they lived in each other's neighborhood, basically.

有趣的是，他们长大后一起成名，最初是以搭档编剧的身份，尤其是因为他们共同撰写了《心灵捕手》的剧本。

And what was fascinating about that is then they grew up and they became they first became famous together as a duo as writing partners, especially because they wrote the script for Goodwill Goodwill Hunting.

然后他们赢得了奥斯卡最佳原创剧本奖，我想那一年他们确实获得了这个奖项。

And then they won the, I think, Academy Award or they won the Oscar basically, I think, for best screenplay that year.

这太惊人了。

That's amazing.

我以前不知道他们童年时还有这种邻里友谊的故事。

I didn't know that story about, like, the childhood connection, childhood neighborhood friend.

是的。

Yeah.

这在第三宫的那期节目中表现得非常明显：第三宫不仅是十一宫之外的另一个朋友宫位，它也包含着朋友的成分，尤其是本地朋友、邻居，或是那些你从小一起长大的、在同一座城市或社区里的童年朋友？

It was just something that showed up very strongly in the third house episode, that the third house is that the eleventh house is not the only house of friends, but that the third house has a relevant friend component as well, especially local friends and ones in your neighborhood or ones that are like childhood friends that you tend to grow up with in the same city or same neighborhood?

完全正确。

Absolutely.

是的。

Yeah.

太好了。

That's great.

对。

Yeah.

此外，更广泛地说，有趣的是，它还涉及兄弟姐妹、兄弟，以及像兄弟一样亲密的人，他们之间的关系常被比作这种情况。

As well as, I guess actually more broadly, interestingly, it's also siblings and brothers and people that are like brother to you, and their relationship has often been likened to that.

真酷。

That's cool.

没错。

Right.

那么继续。

So moving on.

下一个是休·海夫纳的星盘，嗯。

The next one is the birth chart of Hugh Hefner, Mhmm.

所以，花花公子的创始人是谁？他出生时上升星座是处女座。

So who's the founder of Playboy, and he was born with Virgo rising.

摩羯座是第五整个星宫，由土星守护，而土星位于第三宫，代表沟通。

And Capricorn is the fifth whole sign house, and it's ruled by Saturn, which is in the third house of communication.

他著名地创办了《花花公子》杂志，一方面显然是关于性与性欲，以及基本上印刷性内容。

And he famously founded, Playboy magazine, which on the one hand was obviously it was like, sex and sexuality and, like, printing, sexual content basically.

但另一方面，在二十世纪的大部分时间里，《花花公子》的独特之处在于它还包含专栏文章。

But then also it was, you know, unique about Playboy in much of the twentieth century was that it also had, like, written columns.

而且它还试图在某种程度上成为一种文学作品，会邀请著名作家为其撰写文章等内容。

And, like, it tried to also be a literary work to some extent and would have, like, famous writers who would contribute to, written pieces and stuff in it as well.

我觉得特别有趣的是，他拥有第五宫（性与性欲）和第三宫（沟通）的守护星。

And I just thought it was really interesting that he had the ruler of the fifth house of sex and sexuality and the third house of communication.

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

是的

Yeah.

太棒了

That's amazing.

或者昨晚我们昨天聊到了那位著名的喜剧演员，他就是从Playboy俱乐部起步的。

Or like last night we yesterday, we talked about the famous comedian who like got his start at the Playboy Club, for example.

嗯

Mhmm.

对

Right.

是的

Yeah.

所以这明显是第五宫的内容，但重点放在了第三宫的印刷和写作上。

So definitely fifth house content, but focused on the third house of, like, printing and and writing.

而土星再次连接了主宰第五宫和第六宫的两个宫位。

And Saturn, again, connecting two houses that rules the fifth house and the sixth house.

所以这涉及到性，而他的工作本质上属于第三宫。

So it's like sexuality and also his, you know, his job is basically third house.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Right.

而且，你知道，我们昨天看了两个图表，它们的情况很相似，可以简单再回顾一下。

And, you know, we looked at two charts that were basically like that yesterday that are similar overlap that could just be reiterated briefly.

但其中一个就是伊芙·科索夫斯基·塞奇威克，她有巨蟹座上升、天蝎座第五宫，而第五宫的守护星火星位于第三宫。

But one of them was Eve Kosovsky Sedgwick, who had Cancer rising the Scorpio fifth house, and then the ruler of the fifth house is Mars, which is in the third house.

她是一位学者，写了很多关于性、性取向和类似话题的内容。

And she was an academic that wrote a lot about sex and sexuality and sexual orientation and things like that.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的

Yeah.

对

Yeah.

这是我们之前的例子之一，但值得再重复一下。

That was one of our previous examples, but just bears repeating.

有很多这样的人，他们的职业是写关于性的话题，他们大多都有第五宫和第三宫的宫主星关联。

There's a bunch of those people like that who have a have some sort of career writing about sexuality, and so many of them have the ruler of the fifth and the third.

对。

Right.

我们昨晚还谈到了卡罗尔·安·达菲，她出生时上升星座是处女座，命主星水星位于第五宫的摩羯座，与太阳和金星同宫。

And another one we talked about last night was Carol Ann Duffy, who was born with Virgo rising and Mercury, the ruler of the Ascendant in the fifth house in Capricorn along with the sun in Venus.

但第五宫的宫主星土星位于天蝎座的第三宫。

But the ruler of the fifth house is Saturn, is in Scorpio in the third house.

她曾担任英国桂冠诗人长达十多年，是国家的诗人，同时也是该国历史上首位公开的女同性恋桂冠诗人。

And she became the poet laureate for The UK for, like, over a decade, like the nation's poet, but then also was the first lesbian poet like, open lesbian poet laureate in history in the history of the country.

嗯嗯

Mhmm.

是的

Yeah.

是的

Yeah.

这两个都是很棒的星盘，彼此呼应。

Those are both two great things that great charts that echo each other.

我昨天也顺带提过另一个例子，虽然当时没展示她的星盘，那就是阿德里安·里奇，她写了《强制性异性恋》这篇文章。她是一位学者，但这篇作品如今已经成了经典，几十年来无数大学生都被要求阅读，它堪称关于性取向的核心文献。

And then I think I mentioned yesterday as well another in passing, which we didn't have the chart up for, but it was another ruler of the fifth and the third with Adrian Rich, who wrote compulsory heterosexuality, and she was an academic, but this is literally like a written piece of work that just, like, just decades of university students have been told to read at this point, and it's just like a core written thing about sexuality.

不错。

Nice.

太完美了。

That's perfect.

是的

Yeah.

好的。

Alright.

你还有一个最后的例子。

And then you had one last example.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

那是T。

It was T.

贝里·布雷泽尔顿。

Berry Brazelton.

所以他的第五宫主星是月亮，位于第三宫且得势。

So he was so he had the ruler of the fifth is the exalted moon in the third house.

他有双鱼座上升，第五宫是巨蟹座，月亮主宰第五宫，并在金牛座得势，位于第三宫。

He had Pisces rising and then Cancer fifth house, moon ruling that, exalted in Taurus in the third house.

而这个例子则极其字面化。

And this one was just hilariously literal.

他是一位美国儿科医生、作家，也是新生儿行为评估量表的开发者，这一量表将在不久后变得重要，被全球各大医院广泛使用。

So he was an American pediatrician, author, and the developer of the neonatal behavioral assessment scale, which will become important in a moment, used by major hospitals throughout the world.

他还主持了一档名为《每个婴儿都知道什么》的有线电视节目，撰写了一篇关于此主题的 syndicated 报纸专栏，并发表了超过200篇学术论文和24本书。

He also hosted a cable television program called What Every Baby Knows and wrote a syndicated newspaper column about this and authored more than 200 scholarly papers and 24 books.

哇哦。

Wow.

所以，他基本上写了大量关于第五宫儿童的内容。

So lots of lots of writing basically about fifth house children.

他的哥伦比亚大学校友档案将他描述为自本杰明·斯波克以来美国最受赞誉、最具影响力的婴儿医生。

His Columbia alumni profile describes him as America's most celebrated and influential baby doctor since Benjamin Spock.

而你可以看到，月亮在第五宫得势。

And that you can see the exalted moon ruling the fifth house.

对吧？

Right?

他可以说是第五宫相关话题的顶尖人物之一。

He's, like, known as one of the top people with regard to fifth house topics.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

他不仅仅是一位写儿童和育儿相关话题的儿科医生。

It's not just, like, a baby doctor that writes about children and baby related things.

他是全国最顶尖的专家之一吗？

It's, like, one of the top ones in the country?

是的。

Yeah.

他是最知名、最多产的专家之一等等。

One of the most well known, one of the most prolific, etcetera.

但当我查到这些资料时，最让我着迷的是，他的新生儿行为评估量表背后有一个核心假设：婴儿通过行为进行交流，尽管这看起来未必明显，但这种交流是一种理性的语言——这一点源自布拉泽顿研究所的网站。

But my very favorite thing about this when I looked it up was so one of the major assumptions underlying his his neonatal behavioral assessment scale, which is like really widely used now, is that babies communicate through their behavior which although it may not always seem like it is a rational language and this was taken from the Brazelton Institute website.

我当时就想，哇，这太棒了，太完美了。

And I was like, oh, that's amazing and perfect.

对吧？

Right?

因为这是第五宫的婴儿用第三宫的语言和沟通方式在表达，但又是月亮，所以是非语言沟通。

Because it's it's the babies from the fifth house communicating in the third house, like language and communication, but it's the moon, so it's nonverbal communication.

我就是特别喜欢这种字面意义上的关联。

And I just love the literalness of that.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

Absolutely.

这太完美了。

That's perfect.

所以，用这张图你完全可以做出一个非常宽泛的论断，比如，孩子这个主题和沟通这个主题之间可能存在某种联系，这

So it's literally like you could make a really broad statement with this chart that, like, there may be some connection between the topic of children and the topic topic of communication, which

是

are

这两个实际上是每个宫位的首要含义。

two literally, like, first significations for each of those houses.

而且由于一个宫的守护星位于另一个宫，因此两者之间存在联系。

And because the ruler of one is in the other, that there would be a connection between the two.

如果你对客户这样说，结果会发现这在他身上确实非常准确。

And then if you said that to, like, a client, that would turn out to be very literally true in his instance.

是的。

Yes.

对。

Yeah.

我觉得这是一个很棒的发现。

So that was a great find, I thought.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

Absolutely.

或者在其他情况下，如果你对某些人说，比如你生活中的性与性取向和沟通之间可能存在某种联系，而这种联系恰恰体现在像休·海夫纳这样的人身上，这在现实意义上会非常准确。

Or like and then in our other instances, if you had said to some of the other people of, like, that there may be a connection between the topic of, like, sex and sexuality and communication in your life with, like, I don't know, Hugh Hefner, for example, like, that would be very literally true in a very real sense.

或者像伊芙·科索夫斯基·塞奇威克这样学术性地研究这些主题的人也是如此。

Or to Eve Kosovsky Sedgwick who wrote about those things academically and so on and so forth.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

这简直就像占星术真的有效。

It's almost like astrology works.

这简直就像它真的有效。

It's almost like it works.

但同时也要弄清楚它的界限，以及如何以一种宽泛的方式表达，即理解广泛的可能原型和范围，然后尽可能准确地用具体术语来描述，再观察具体情况如何展开。

But also that figuring out what the limits are and, like, how to phrase things in a way that's, like, broad, like understanding the broad possible archetypes and ranges and then getting as close as you can to describing that in concrete terms and then seeing how the specifics work out.

嗯。

Mhmm.

当然。

Definitely.

好的。

Alright.

那么我们继续讨论第四宫，以及当第五宫的守护星与第四宫产生关联时的星盘含义。

So let's move on to the fourth house and looking at the ruler of the fifth house when it's connected with the fourth house in astrology.

第四宫当然是父母的主要宫位，同时也代表你的家和居住状况。

The fourth, of course, is the the primary house of parents as well as your home and your living situation.

我们昨天已经讨论过的一张星盘是女演员托里·斯宾塞的出生星盘。

So one of the charts we already discussed yesterday is the birth chart of the actress Tori Spelling.

这是她的出生星盘。

So here is her birth chart.

托里·斯宾塞是水瓶座上升，土星位于第五全相位宫。

Tori's spelling as Aquarius rising and Saturn is in the fifth whole sign house.

有趣的是，第五宫是双子座，由水星守护，而水星正好位于第四宫。

And what's interesting about this is the fifth house is Gemini, and it's ruled by Mercury, which is placed in the fourth whole sign house.

而第四宫的守护星金星则位于第五宫的双子座，并且与IC（天底）相合，刚刚 barely 进入双子座的第五宫。

And then the ruler of the fourth whole sign house is Venus, which is placed in Gemini in the fifth whole sign house, and it's conjunct the IC, which is which is just barely moved into Gemini into the fifth house.

因此，第五宫（创造力）的守护星与第四宫（父母）的守护星之间形成了互换关系。

So there's a mutual reception or an exchange of signs between the ruler of the fifth house of creativity and the ruler of the fourth house of parents.

正如我们昨天已经讨论过的，我们不必再重复全部内容，但托里·斯佩林是一位女演员，她在20世纪90年代初因出演热门电视剧《90210》中的角色而走红。

And as we talked about yesterday already, which we don't have to go into all of it again, but just Tory Spelling is a actress who became prominent through playing a character on the hit TV series nine zero two one o in the early nineteen nineties.

但她的父亲是一位著名的电视制片人，正是他创造了这部剧。

But her father was the was a famous television producer who created the show.

于是，他直接让自己的女儿出演了这部电视剧。

So then he cast his daughter, like, in this television series.

因此，这里直接体现了第五宫（创造力）与第四宫（家庭背景）之间的关联。

So right there, sort of, like, directly, there's a connection between, like, the fifth house of creativity and the fourth house appearance in having that connection.

有时，人们会讨论甚至争论这是否属于裙带关系，即在某个行业中，有家人帮你走后门之类的。

And then sometimes, like, this can be discussed or people, like, debate whether this is, like, a case of nepotism, where having a family member, like, in an industry, like, pulling strings for you or what have you.

所以我只是想提一下，因为正如我之前所说，当两个宫位之间存在相互守护或星座交换时，通常会形成非常强烈的联系，并创造出一种独特的重叠，将这些宫位与整体生活紧密相连。

So I just wanted to mention it because as I said before, when there's a mutual reception or exchange of signs between two houses, it often creates a very strong connection, and it creates something that sometimes becomes very distinctive, a distinctive overlap between those houses and the life in general.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

另一个有趣的层面是，这不仅关乎她自己的演艺事业，她的父亲亚伦·斯佩林斯还是一位非常著名的美国电影和电视制片人。

And an interesting additional layer is that not only, you know, was that the connection for her own acting career, but her father Aaron Spelling was like a very famous American film and television producer.

通过他的制作公司，他实际上保持着美国电视史上最高产电视制片人的纪录。

And his production through his production company, he actually holds the record as the most prolific television producer in American television history.

嗯。

So Uh-huh.

这不仅描述了她与父母在演艺方面的联系，也体现了父母本身的角色。

That's like the real so it's describing a parent as well as, you know, her acting connection with the parent.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

Absolutely.

太棒了。

That's amazing.

嗯。

Mhmm.

好的。

Okay.

所以关于这一点，我想说的就这些了。

So that's all I wanted to say about that one.

接下来，我再举一个更近的例子，是玛格丽特·夸利的出生图，她出生时双鱼座上升，第五宫整体星座为巨蟹座，代表创造力和表演。

So moving on, Another one that I found that's a more recent example is the birth chart of Margaret Qualley who was born with Pisces rising and Cancer on the fifth whole sign house of, like, creativity and acting.

第五宫由月亮守护，月亮位于第四宫整体星座双子座，与天底度数呈紧密合相，天底位于双子座21度，月亮位于双子座18度。

And it's ruled by the moon, is placed in Gemini in the fourth whole sign house in a close conjunction with the degree of the IC with the IC at 21 Gemini and the moon at 18 Gemini.

直到我开始研究时才知道，玛格丽特·夸利的母亲是著名女演员安迪·麦克道威尔，她因出演我最喜欢的九十年代电影之一《土拨鼠之日》而闻名，在片中饰演比尔·默瑞角色的女主角。

So I didn't know this until I was, like, researching, but Margaret Quayle's mother is a is the famous actress, Andy McDowell, who was, like, famous from, like, you know, one of my famous my favorite, like, nineties movies was, like, Groundhog Day, and she played the lead in that opposite to Bill Murray, Bill Murray's character.

我现在能看出她们的相似之处了，但之前我并没有意识到她母亲是一名演员。

And I can see the resemblance now, but I didn't realize that, like, her mother was an was an actor.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

所以这两个星盘非常相似，第五宫和第四宫的守护星都有关联，而且都有著名影视明星父母，本人也从事演艺事业。

So those two charts are really similar with the ruler of the fifth and the fourth and having, like, a famous film or TV parent as well as having an acting career themselves.

是的。

Yeah.

我读到一些资料，维基百科上说，由于她母亲是知名演员，她有时被指责是‘星二代’。

So and I was reading about this, and some of the stuff on Wikipedia was saying that she's sometimes accused of being like an Eppo baby because of her mother being a well known actress.

奎莉承认人们试图贴给她的这种标签，并说你可以称我为‘星二代’，但她更喜欢‘第二代演员’这个说法，并且内心强烈渴望证明自己的价值，配得上自己在行业中的位置。

And Quilley has acknowledged the sort of the label that people attempt to give her and say, you can call me a nepo baby, though she prefers the term second generation actor and feels a strong internal drive to prove her own worth and deserve her place in the industry.

而且，我觉得她确实做到了。

And, you know, I think she has.

我的意思是，我认为这正是这里的其中一个差异，也是人们有时会遇到的棘手问题，就像我们昨天说的，那种学徒制和代际传递知识的概念，当一个人的父母从事某种职业时，他们往往会追随父母的脚步。

I mean, I think that's one of the differences here, and that's one of the things where it gets tricky sometimes when people make that, as we were saying yesterday, just like there's that whole idea of, like, apprenticeship and, like, passing down knowledge sometimes from generation to generation, and that sometimes when a person has a parent that does a certain thing, they will follow in that parent's footsteps.

而这种环境确实有时会给你带来优势，因为你从小就在这样的环境中成长，很早就开始学习父母所从事的技能，而大多数人要到后来才接触这些。

And that does sometimes give you an edge just simply as a result of, like, growing up in that environment and, like, starting to learn how to do what your parent does much earlier in life than most other people do if they come to it later on.

所以我觉得这里的情况更符合这一点，因为从她最近的一些作品来看，她已经证明了自己，比如去年与黛米·摩尔对戏的那部作品，她表现非常出色，最近还因此获得了提名。

So I feel like that's more the case here because it seems like in some of her recent stuff, she's, like, proved herself and got, I think, some nominations recently for the substance, for example, which she did a really good job in acting opposite to Demi Moore over the past year.

看来她一直在努力证明自己，表明那些关于她只是靠裙带关系的指责并不完全成立。

So it seems like she's been, like, proving herself and, like, demonstrating that some of those accusations of it just being about nepotism were not necessarily true.

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

拥有同样行业的父母确实是一把双刃剑，就像你说的，你可能比别人更早获得优势。

It seems like a significant both pro and con having a a parent in the same industry because of, like you said, getting a leg up potentially earlier than someone else might.

但同时，这种背景也始终如影随形，你必须不断证明自己，不能只靠背景，这本身也成了一种负担。

But then also like having that always hanging over you as like you have to prove yourself and that it's not just only about that and that just seems like a little bit of a burden as well.

对。

Right.

这会带来压力。

That it would create like a pressure.

然后有些演员会改名字。

And then it's like some actors will like change their name.

我知道尼古拉斯·凯奇改了名字，因为他其实来自科波拉家族。

Like I know Nicolas Cage changed his name because he's actually one of the he's from the Coppola family.

哦。

Oh.

但他我觉得他改艺名部分是为了不靠家族名声，靠自己闯出一片天地。

But but he I think he changed his name, his stage name partially in order to try to make it on his own without the family name.

而我们稍后在下一节会看到另一个例子，比如索菲亚·科波拉，她从小就出现在父亲的电影里，但最终也凭借自己的能力取得了成功。

Whereas we'll see another example here soon in the next section about, like, you know, like Sofia Coppola who started has the IC in the fifth house and started acting in her father's movies, but then eventually went on to be a successful actor on her own.

嗯。

Mhmm.