占星学中的第二宫

所以，她曾经经历过一次显著的财务转变。

And so there was actually, at one point, a significant financial shift for her.

显然，生活就像一系列财务变化的进程，就像你之前提到的她在土星回归期间的情况。

Obviously, life was like a progression of financial shifts like the one you mentioned earlier when she was in her Saturn return.

我觉得这个特别有趣，因为我查了宣布这件事时的星盘行运，我认为大约是1995年6月20日，当时木星位于射手座8度，并且正在逆行回到7度，与她命盘中位于狮子座7度的土星形成三合相。

This one I thought was interesting because I looked at the transits for when it was announced, which I believe was around 06/20/1995, and transiting Jupiter was at eight degrees of Sagittarius, and it was retrograding back to seven degrees where it was trining her natal Saturn at seven degrees of Leo.

所以，这也是我想今天强调的另一个方面。

So that's another aspect of things that I wanna emphasize today.

有些情况下，我们只需观察命盘中的位置，看看这些位置如何在人生的不同时刻普遍地体现出来，对应某些特定的事件或经历。

Some instances, sometimes it would be just be looking at the natal placement and seeing how that worked out universally at different points in the life with specific instances or events that were characteristic of the life.

在某些情况下，我实际上想结合行运来看，这些第二宫的配置是如何在人生中出现好或坏、或具有挑战性的事件时被激活的。

In some instances, I actually want to look at the transits and show how those second house placements were actually being activated when they were either good or bad or, let's say, challenging things that occurred in the person's life.

在这个例子中，她经历了一件非常积极的事情，当时她正经历着对第二宫土星的正面行运。

In this instance, she had a really positive thing happen, and she was having a very positive transit at that time to her second house, Saturn.

对。

Right.

有趣的是，土星也掌管第八宫，网上曾有一段对话被发布，有人问她：‘赢得那个奖项对你意味着什么？’

And interestingly as well, Saturn rules the eighth house, and there was a different conversation, or a recounting of a conversation published online where someone asked her, so what did that what did winning that prize do for you?

她回答说，终于能在安全的社区买下一套房子。

And she said, was able to finally buy a home in a safe neighborhood.

土星掌管第八宫，而第八宫通常代表房贷，对吧？

And Saturn is like the ruling ruling the eighth house, which would be like the mortgage, right?

买房时，第八宫经常会出现，尽管房子本身属于第四宫，但这是因为涉及的是购房的融资问题。

To to buy a home, the eighth house often shows up, even though the home is the fourth house, because it's like the financing of the home.

这让我感到有些清醒，因为人们曾提到，如果她活得更久，现在本该已经非常富有。

And it was a little sobering to me because you should, you know, they were noting she would have been wealthy now, had she lived longer.

但当时，这笔收入让她能够获得房贷并买下房子，可她那时还在还房贷，你知道的？

But at that time, it allowed her to get that mortgage and the home, but she was like, still paying off the mortgage, you know?

所以，这只是一个例子，说明知名度、职业声望和收入状况，在星盘中并不总是一回事。

So just kind of an example of how like, you know, notability, like professional notability, and the income area are not always the same thing in the chart at all.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

但有趣的是，上升点的守护星位于第二宫，而第二宫显然是她一生中的一个重要主题。

But it's interesting that the ruler of the Ascendant was there in the second house, that that second house is obviously a major topic throughout her life.

她将第二宫的主题融入了自己的写作和作品中。

She integrated second house themes into her writings and into her works.

但我们的主要观点是，土星位于第二宫有时会带来困难，尤其是在人生的早期阶段，特别是对她这样出生在日间图的人来说。

And then but our primary we were also using it as an example that Saturn in the second house can sometimes be difficult, especially earlier in the life, especially for her since she had a day chart.

土星通常会随着年龄增长而变得更好。

Saturn tends to be something that gets better with age.

尽管她早年在第二宫土星的影响下经历了巨大的挣扎和困难，但随着年龄增长，这一领域最终逐渐好转。

And while she had great struggles and hardships in that area with Saturn in the second house, eventually it became an area where things worked out better as she got older.

是的， definitely。

Yeah, definitely.

好的。

Alright.

所以这是一个很好的例子，说明即使你有像土星这样在第二宫的困难行星，也并不总是最糟糕的情况。

So that's a good example of just it's not always terrible or like the worst case scenario if you have difficult planets like Saturn in the second house.

实际上，我还有另一个例子，就是我接下来要讲的沃伦·巴菲特的出生图，他是一位著名的投资者，上升星座为射手座，土星位于摩羯座的第二宫，且是日盘。

And actually, I have another example of that, which is my next example, which is the birth chart of Warren Buffett, who is a famous investor who has Sagittarius rising and Saturn in Capricorn in the second house in a day chart.

嗯。

Mhmm.

因此，我想用这个例子说明，当凶星位于第二宫但位置良好时，并不总是最糟糕的情况。

So with his I wanted to use this as an example of how malefics in the second house, especially if they're well placed, are not always the worst case scenario.

他成为了世界上最富有的人之一。

He's somebody that became one of the richest people in the world.

但我也想用这个例子说明，第二宫的行星有时不仅描述一个人对金钱的态度，也反映他们如何赚取和花费金钱。

But I wanted to use it as example also because sometimes the planets in the second house can describe one's orientation towards money, but also how they go about spending money and acquiring money.

嗯。

Mhmm.

另一位占星师贝丝·沃森，她是我们的朋友兼常驻节目合作者帕特里克·沃森的妻子，我和她聊到这个话题时，她说沃伦·巴菲特真是个绝佳的例子。

So another astrologer, Beth Watson, who's the wife of our friend and frequent show collaborator, Patrick Watson, I was talking to her about this, and she said what a good example that Warren Buffett is.

她发给我一段话，说我可以读一下。

And she sent me a paragraph which she said I could I could read.

所以她说，我觉得他的第二宫有土星这一点很有趣，这很好地体现了他的交易策略。

So she said, I think it's cool about his second house, how Saturn is there, and how well that represents his trading strategy.

强烈的摩羯座能量。

Heavy Capricorn energy.

他是一位不搞花哨、注重基本面的交易者，也是最早推广价值投资的人之一，即通过他的分析寻找那些他认为实际价值远高于市场价格的股票。

He's a no fuss, no frills fundamentals trader and was one of the first to popularize value investing or finding stocks that he believed through his analysis were worth far more than their intrinsic value.

其中一些股票虽然见效慢，但长期来看为他带来了惊人的回报。

Some of those stocks were a slow burn but netted him brilliant returns in the long run.

因此我认为这非常重要，因为我在更多地了解他和他的投资方式时发现，他以价值投资著称，即寻找那些他认为被市场低估的公司。

And so I thought that's really important because I was looking at more about him and just his approach, and he's known for value investing, which is seeking companies that he believes are undervalued by the market.

然后他专注于长期目标。

And then he focuses on long term things.

因此，他以买入并长期持有的策略而闻名，强调长期收益而非短期投机。

So he's famous for his approach of buying and holding and emphasizing long term gains over short term speculation.

最后，他非常注重基本面，关注公司的底层基本面和内在价值，而非市场炒作。

And then finally, he's also very fundamentals driven where he focuses on a company's underlying fundamentals and intrinsic value, not market hype.

所以贝丝提到的最后一件事是，他出生时正好在土星即将顺行之前。

So one last thing that Beth mentioned is he was born actually just before Saturn was about to station direct.

让我看看你能看到多远。

Let me see how far you can see it.

是的。

Yeah.

你可以在页面的右下角看到。

You can see it in the bottom right corner of the page.

上面写着，他出生时距离土星在摩羯座顺行还有大约十天，这在一个人的星图中总是对某颗行星起到重大强调或感叹号的作用。

It says he was born about ten days before Saturn would station direct in Capricorn, which always puts a major emphasis or like an exclamation mark next to a planet in a person's chart.

贝丝说，她查了巴菲特的次级进展，因为土星在他出生后十天才顺行，这在次级进展中就会被关联起来。

And Beth was saying that she looked up Buffett's secondary progressions and because it was you know, Saturn stationed ten days after his birth, that would be associated then in secondary progressions.

这意味着，通过次级进展，他的土星在他十岁或十一岁时顺行。

It means by secondary progression, his Saturn stationed direct when he was 10 or 11 years old.

她查了一下，发现他实际上在11岁时就买了第一只股票。

And she looked it up and he actually bought his first stock at age 11.

那就是他开始投资的时候。

That's when he started investing.

这太有趣了，而且非常具体和直白。

That's so funny, and like concrete and literal.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

这难道不令人难以置信吗？

Isn't that incredible?

是的。

Yeah.

所以，对。

So Yeah.

因为当一个次级进展行星停止并转为顺行时，通常会凸显出与之相关的事物，使其在你的生活中变得更加重要和明显。

Because oftentimes when like a secondary progressed planet stations to go direct, it'll like bring out the expression of like whatever that's about and make it more important and show up more obviously in your life.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

所以显然，还有其他事情在发生。

So obviously, there's other things going on.

星盘。

Chart.

他的星盘实际上非常侧重第八宫，而这一点在投资者和非常富有的人身上，比如亿万富翁，经常会出现。

His chart is actually very eighth house focused, and that's something that comes up majorly with investors and people that are very wealthy, like billionaires.

我会把剩下的内容留到第八宫那一集再讲。

I'll save the rest of that for, like, the eighth house episode.

但我只是想说明，有时土星在第二宫，如果位置非常好，也可能会有影响。

But I just wanted to show how sometimes Saturn in the second not only can if it's very well placed.

比如，这可能是你在第二宫能得到的最理想位置的土星，因为它位于自己的星座内。

Like, for example, this is probably the most well placed Saturn you could get in the second house because it's, you know, in its own domicile.

它出现在日盘中。

It's in a day chart.

它正在直接运行。

It's stationing direct.

但长期来看，土星在第二宫其实未必是灾难性的，甚至可能带来好处。

But how that can actually be good, especially in the long term that Saturn in the second is not necessarily a terrible deal breaker per se.

没错。

Right.

而当一个人在与他相关的这个生活领域中践行土星的能量时，这种影响就能很好地体现出来。

And how that's expressed well is if you do Saturn around that, you know, around that area of life in which he has.

是的。

Yeah.

完全正确。

Exactly.

好吧。

Alright.

那么继续。

So moving on.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

我找到一个特别有趣的情况，就是月亮在第二宫。

One of them that I found that was really funny was the moon in the second house.

我发现月亮在第二宫有几个显著的特点，其中一个非常有趣且字面意义的是，玛莎·斯图尔特的月亮就在第二宫。

I found a couple of distinctive things with the moon in the second house, but one of them that was very funny and literal was that Martha Stewart has the moon in the second house.

这是她的星盘。

So here is her chart.

她有天蝎座上升，月亮位于射手座，落在第二整宫。

She has Scorpio rising with the moon in Sagittarius in the second whole sign house.

第二宫的守护星是木星，它位于双子座，落在第八宫，在日盘中。

The ruler of the second house is Jupiter, which is in Gemini in the eighth house in a day chart.

玛莎·斯图尔特最主要的特点是，月亮位于第二宫这一点让我觉得非常有趣，因为她以烹饪、厨具、烹饪节目和书籍，以及家居装饰等相关领域而闻名。

And Martha Stewart, the primary thing is just with the moon there in the second house that I found so fascinating is that she's known for cooking for a series of cookware and cooking shows and books and also like home decorating and things like that.

因此，所有这些与月亮在第二宫相关的特质，正是她谋生并成为百万富翁的方式。

So all these things related to the moon manifesting in the second house is how she made her living and became like a millionaire.

对。

Right.

有时候，这至少在生计这一主要主题上，就是这么简单。

And sometimes it's just as simple as that, at least in terms of one of the big themes of livelihood.

那颗行星的本质是什么？

Like what is the nature of that planet?

它代表了哪些含义？

What are its significations?

是的。

Yeah.

有时候，情况确实可以这么简单。

Sometimes it can be as simple as that.

所以是烹饪书、杂志、家居装饰和厨房用品，还有其他类似的东西。

So cookbooks and magazines, home decor, and kitchenware products, and different things like that.

有趣的是，由于第二宫的守护星位于第八宫，她还通过在各种企业中做出非常精明的投资而变得非常富有。

Interestingly, with the ruler of the second in the eighth house, she also became very wealthy as a result of making a lot of very shrewd investments in various businesses.

让我回到她的星盘。

Let me go back to her chart.

那里有木星位于第八宫。

There's that Jupiter in the eighth house.

所以她也是一位投资者，这进一步增加了她的财富。

So she was also like an investor, and that added to her wealth.

然而，她也曾因此陷入麻烦，一度因股票交易问题而惹上官司，最终因内幕交易丑闻被判入狱五个月，并处以两年缓刑。

However, she also got caught up and got in trouble for that at one point as well where she got in trouble for for trading basically, and she went to jail for five months plus got two years probation due to a sort of insider trading scandal essentially.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

对。

Right.

所以木星总体上为她带来了良好而丰盛的影响，但如果你走得太远，阴影面也可能会显现出来。

So that Jupiter was generally doing, you know, good abundant things for her, but there's still the shadow side that can come out, you know, if you take that too far.

是的。

Yeah.

有时候事情会变得棘手。

Where where sometimes things can get tricky.

有趣的是，我发现当她在2001年底首次进行交易时，土星正在经过她位于双子座的木星，而她在2002年初开始受到调查。

And what was interesting about that is that I found was that Saturn was transiting her Jupiter in Gemini when she first made the the trade in late two thousand one, and then she started being investigated in early two thousand two.

同时，冥王星正在经过她的第二宫射手座，并与她的木星形成对冲。

And at the same time, Pluto was going through Sagittarius, her second house, and was opposing her Jupiter.

而且当时她的第二宫附近也发生了一次日月食。

And there was also an eclipse in her second house around that time as well.

哇。

Wow.

这太多了。

That's a lot.

所以即使一个人的第二宫或第八宫有很好的配置，如果遇到特别艰难的行运，也可能会出问题。

So it's like even if a person has really good placements in the second house or the eighth house, sometimes if you have a really tough transit Mhmm.

你知道吗，在2001年，很多占星师把9·11事件与土星和冥王星的对冲联系起来。

You know, in 2001, a lot of the astrologers associated nine eleven with the Saturn Pluto opposition.

对她来说，有趣的是，土星与冥王星的对冲正好影响了她命盘中的财务领域，并冲击了她的木星。

And for her, what was interesting is that Saturn Pluto opposition was hitting her financial sector of her chart and hitting her Jupiter.

所以重点是，即使你有非常好的配置，即使是最幸运、最有福气的人，在人生某个阶段也可能会遇到困难或挑战，这往往发生在遭遇更具挑战性的行运时。

So the point is just sometimes even if you have really good placements, even the most fortunate or lucky people at some point in their life, you know, have some difficulties or run into some challenges related to different parts of their chart, and that's gonna happen when you have the more challenging transits.

当然。

For sure.

我们知不知道她是明知故犯，还是只是被人建议这么做的？

Do we know if she like knowingly did anything improper there or if it was like something that she was advised to do?

我只是很好奇。

I was just curious.

我不知道。

I I don't know.

就像是，好吧。

It's like Okay.

这真的非常复杂。

It's really complicated.

比如，我有一整套说法。

Like, I have a whole thing.

因为这部分涉及她对检察官的陈述和质疑。

Because part of it had to do with her questioning and like what she said to the prosecutors.

因为他们指控她在进行交易时利用了未公开的信息。

Because they accused her of making non acting on nonpublic knowledge when they made the trade.

但我认为更大的问题是，当联邦官员前来询问时，他们指控她向他们撒了谎。

But then the big thing I think was that they accused her of lying to it to the the feds when they came asking questions.

所以这可能是主要问题之一。

So that may have been part of the major issues.

我明白了。

I see.

好的。

Okay.

妨碍司法公正。

Obstruction of justice.

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以我不确定。

So I don't know.

我们没必要再详细讨论了，也不做评判

We don't have to get into the details again with our not pass judgment

不做评判。

Not passing judgment.

我们不能说的事情。

Thing we can't say.

实际上有几例类似的情况，我会提出一些推测，或者不同的人有不同的推测，但我们并不真正了解，只是看看占星术是如何被激活的，这很有趣。

There's actually a few examples like that where I'm going to raise speculations or different people have speculated a different way, but that we don't truly know, but that it is just interesting to look at the astrology and see how it's activated.

对。

Right.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

好吧。

All right.

所以让我回到我的清单。

So let me go back to my list.

所以我们已经，哦，对。

So we've Oh, yeah.

另一个不断出现、让我觉得非常有趣的是与月亮有关的收藏家和喜欢收集东西的人。

Another one that keeps coming up kept coming up with the moon that I found really fascinating is collectors and people that liked to collect things.

对。

Right.

我觉得这太好笑了，因为月亮本身在希腊占星术中一个基本的象征意义就是收集、吸纳。

And I thought that was so hilarious because the moon itself, that's one of its basic significations in Hellenistic astrology is that it collects Collects.

是的。

Yeah.

它收集事物，并接收太阳的光。

Things, and it receives the light of the sun.

因此，它关乎接收、收集或对事物保持开放。

And so that it's about receiving or collecting or being receptive to things.

这只是一个基本原理。

It's just a basic principle.

对。

Right.

对。

Yeah.

完全正确。

Totally.

当这种情况在这些例子中字面出现时，真的挺有趣的。

And it's really funny when that comes out literally, like in a couple of these examples.

是的。

Yeah.

所以这是一种收集，我来展示几个这样的例子。

So that's one collection, and I'll I'll show a couple examples of that.

另一个我需要介绍的也是经常出现的情况是，当火星位于第二宫时，可能与夺取事物有关。

Another one that I need to introduce also that comes up is sometimes when Mars is in the second house, it can have to do with taking things.

嗯。

Mhmm.

或者，你知道，火星的基本原则是切断和分离，但它也能夺取事物，在古代占星术中还与盗窃有关。

Or, you know, Mars Mars, it severs and separates as a basic principle, but it also can take things and is associated with theft, for example, in ancient astrology.

有时如果火星位置不佳，遇到不良相位，可能表明某人遭遇了被盗事件。

And sometimes if it's poorly placed and you get a bad transit can indicate a person has an incidence of theft where somebody steals from them.

但有趣的是，我找到了一个例子，有人喜欢偷别人的东西，而他的火星位于第二宫。

But interestingly, found an example of somebody who liked to steal things from other people who had Mars in the second house.

所以

So

这是一个比较复杂的例子，但非常典型。

this is kind of an elaborate example, but it was a really good one.

这是埃及国王法鲁克的出生图，他在20世纪30年代和40年代统治埃及，但最终成为埃及最后一位国王，因为他被推翻并流放，后来在意大利流亡并去世，我想是这样。

So this is the birth chart of king Farouq of Egypt, who was the king of Egypt in the nineteen thirties and forties, but he ended up effectively becoming the last king of Egypt because he was overthrown and exiled from Egypt and then ended up dying in exile years later living in Italy, I believe.

嗯。

Mhmm.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对于听音频版本的听众，我们有一张天秤座上升的星盘，火星和木星位于天蝎座的第二宫，同时还有北交点。

So for those listening to the audio version, we have a chart with Libra rising, Mars and Jupiter in Scorpio in the second house along with the North Node.

火星和月亮？

Mars and the Moon?

抱歉。

Sorry.

是的。

Yeah.

火星和月亮位于天蝎座的第二宫，并与北交点相合。

Mars and the Moon in the North Node in Scorpio in the second house.

木星位于狮子座的第十一宫，通过一个相位不良的四分相克服了天蝎座的月亮和火星位置。

And Jupiter is in Leo in the eleventh house overcoming through a superior square those Moon and Mars placements in Scorpio.

嗯。

Mhmm.

那么这里还有什么其他情况呢？

And then what else is going on here?

我们还看到金星位于第四宫，与天蝎座的某些行星形成良好的六分相。

We have a nice sextile from Venus in the fourth house to some of the Scorpio planets.

但关于他，不谈他的完整传记，最突出的一点是，他有点像个爱恶作剧的人。

But the big thing about him that came up without going into his entire biography is, one, was kind of like a prankster.

他成长于极度富裕的环境中，但听起来却像个调皮的孩子。

He grew up in extreme wealth, but he sounded almost like a little mischievous.

但据称，由于火星位于第二宫，他曾一度被教导：在埃及，他们抓到一个扒手。

But he apparently with Mars in the second house, he was taught at one point that they caught in Egypt somebody who was a pickpocket.

于是他和这个扒手达成协议：只要扒手教他如何偷窃，就不起诉他并放他走。

And he made a deal with the pickpocket to not charge him and to let him go if the pickpocket would teach him how to pickpocket people.

因此，这位国王学会了这项技能，后来他决定专门针对名人下手，曾用这招从温斯顿·丘吉尔身上偷走了一块手表。

And so the king learned how to do this, but then he decided to do it on really famous people where he would pickpocket them, including he used this skill on Winston Churchill at one point to steal one of his watches.

他还从伊朗沙阿手中偷走了一把仪式用的剑。

And another person, he stole a ceremonial sword from the shah of Iran.

所以，在他的传记中提到，尽管拥有巨额财富，巴鲁赫却是个窃癖者，总是从他所居住的埃及权贵家中拿走一些贵重物品，比如画作或钢琴，因为没人敢拒绝国王。

So it's basically In his biographies, it says despite his great wealth, Baruch was a kleptomaniac who always took something valuable such as a painting or a piano from whatever members of the Egyptian elite that he stayed with as nobody could say no to the king.

只要他表现出想要某样东西，他的臣民就必须献给他。

And if he indicated he wanted something, his subjects had to give it to him.

这对他臣民成立，对其他国家的高级官员也同样适用。

So it's true for his subjects, but it's also true for other high officials in other countries.

温斯顿·丘吉尔是英国的首相。

Winston Churchill was the prime minister of The UK.

所以他的第二宫实际上配置得非常好，尤其是在这张夜盘中，火星位于自己的守护星座。

So his second house is actually extremely well placed in terms of at least this being a night chart with Mars in its own domicile.

是的。

Yeah.

相对而言位置不错。

Relatively well situated.

但同时，我们也发现月亮也在第二宫，结果发现他是个狂热的收藏家，据说他对收集物品有种近乎痴迷的倾向。

But then also we find the moon there in the second house, and it turned out that he was a huge collector, that he had It said that he had something of a mania for collecting things.

有一本传记提到，他的收藏品范围从可口可乐瓶子到欧洲艺术品，再到古埃及文物。

This is what one of the biographies said, ranging from Coca Cola bottles to European art to ancient Egyptian antiques.

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以根据我的笔记，这里只列举一些物品，因为在他被一场军事政变推翻并被迫退位后，埃及政府开始拍卖他庞大的收藏品和珍宝。

So looking at my notes here for just some of the stuff because what happened is after he was overthrown in essentially like a military coup and he was forced to abdicate, the Egyptian government moved to auction off his vast collection of trinkets and treasures.

然后他们发现他拥有大量各种各样的物品，当时他拥有世界上最多的收藏品。

And then they just started finding that he had all of this stuff and that he had the hugest collection of a bunch of different things in the world at that time.

例如，他拥有的是当时世界上最大的硬币收藏。

So one of the things that he had, for example, is he had the biggest coin collection in the world at that point.

他还拥有数量达数十万的庞大收藏，结果发现他拥有世界上最多的色情物品。

He also possessed a vast collection numbering into the hundreds of thousands of, it turned out, he had the largest collection of pornography in the world, for example.

而这发生在二十世纪四十年代或五十年代。

And this is in, like, the nineteen forties or nineteen fifties.

有趣的是，这发生在天蝎座，而且月亮还掌管着第十宫。

And it's funny that it's in Scorpio, and it's also funny that it's like the moon is ruling the tenth house.

想象一下，这成了你的一个名声。

So just imagine that that becomes one of your reputations.

对。

Right.

完全正确。

Totally.

是的。

Right.

对。

Yeah.

说吧。

Go ahead.

说吧。

Go ahead.

因为第二宫真的很有意思。

Well, it's just such an interesting second house.

对吧？

Right?

因为月亮与收集有关，而火星在夜盘中处于自己的星座，位置很好。

Because the the moon with the collecting, and Mars is well placed in a night chart in its own sign.

所以这表明他确实有那样的资源。

So it shows that he had, you know, the means there.

他有第二宫，你知道的，意味着丰盛，但这也是火星，你知道的，还有凶星，即使它们是昆虫，也不意味着它们就一定变成吉星。

He had second house, you know, abundance going on, but he it's also Mars, you know, and malefics, even if they're insect, it doesn't mean they turn into like the benefic necessarily.

所以这就像

So it's like

对。

Right.

那仍然是他的一些挣扎，欲望。

That was some of his struggle still, the desire.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

他们喜欢拿走东西，而且就像奥斯坦在他的宫位书里提到的，显然没人拥有，我们非常幸运，因为第一版早已绝版了。

They like they like to take things and also like Austin talks about in his book on the decans, evidently nobody has, we're very lucky people that have the first edition since it's been out of print forever.

他谈到了天蝎座的第一宫限，其中一个关键词是‘饥饿’。

He talks about the first decan of Scorpio and one of the keywords he uses for it is hunger.

这一点在这位男士的传记中表现得非常强烈，因为人们说他渴望收集物品、拥有财产和物资，甚至对饮食和举办奢华盛宴也有着强烈的欲望。

And that actually came up very strongly in this guy's biography because they said that he had a hunger for collecting things, for possessions and goods, but also even for eating and stuff and having these wildly opulent meals.

以至于多年后，他变得非常肥胖，与当时的标准相比明显超重。

So much so that eventually you know, he did that for many many years and became very overweight relative to the time.

他有着对女性和性欲的强烈渴望，一生中拥有众多情人，这似乎也在某种程度上与他的第二宫联系在一起。

He had this hunger, like this desire for women and for sex and had lots of different lovers during the course of his life, and that seems like it became tied in with his second house to some extent as well.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

第一宫位的这种象征意义真的很有趣，因为你还记得这个含义。

Really interesting with the first deck and because yeah, remember that signification as well.

但在我看来，他身上有几件不同的事情都指向了那种无法满足的欲望，就是这一点。

But it's like, he has a few different things kinda showing up to me anyway as, you know, sort of the insatiable desire factor, which is that one.

然后，你知道，木星压过了火星，但这是在夜盘中。

And then, you know, with that Jupiter overcoming Mars, but it's in a night chart.

所以火星和木星可以扩大欲望。

So like Mars Jupiter can like expand the desire.

尤其是当它出现在夜盘时，这种扩大并不一定是正面的，你知道吗？

And especially if it's in a night chart, it's not necessarily in like useful ways, you know?

对。

Right.

就是那种贪婪。

You know, just sort of greed.

然后，我知道这并不总是这样表现，但他月亮和北交点在第二宫天蝎座如此接近，这真的很有趣。

And then, I know it doesn't always show up this way, but it's really interesting that he has such a close conjunction between the moon and the north node in the second house in Scorpio.

因为我知道，北交点——尤其是在印度占星术中——被称为永不满足的渴望。

Because I've seen that, you know, the the north node, particularly, of course, in Indian astrology is like known as like the insatiable want.

那个总想要更多的头。

The head the head that keeps wanting more.

对吧？

Right?

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

蛇的。

The of the serpent.

而月亮就在那里，是的，我能理解这种本能，就是不断想要更多，再加上他第二宫周围的一些其他因素。

And with the moon right there, yeah, I can see that just being like an instinct of like wanting more and wanting more with a few different, you know, things around his second house there.

对。

Right.

当然。

For sure.

我之前阅读和整理的一些总结提到，埃及的法鲁克一世的财政状况以极度富有和奢侈为特征，最终导致了他的垮台以及1952年推翻君主制的革命，他的财政状况呈现出巨额财富与挥霍无度之间的鲜明对比。

So some of the summaries I was, like, reading and writing were that Faruk the first of Egypt's finances were characterized by extreme wealth and extravagance, ultimately contributing to his downfall and the nineteen fifty two revolution that overthrew the monarchy, and that his finances were a stark contrast between immense wealth and irresponsible spending.

这实际上是我经常在火星位于第二宫时看到的情况。

That's actually something I see come up regularly with Mars in the second house.

比如，约翰尼·德普就有这种情况。

Johnny Depp, for example, has that.

还有人猜测，他可能在过去几十年里，将通过好莱坞职业生涯赚取的六亿美元中的很大一部分，花在了荒唐奢侈的消费上。

And there's speculations that he may have spent like a lot of the $600,000,000 that he made through his Hollywood career over the past few decades on on wild extravagant spending.

是的。

Yeah.

我见过好几位以挥霍财富闻名的名人，他们都有类似的情况。

I saw that on several different celebrities who were known to squander their wealth.

他们不仅火星，木星也与第二宫有关联。

They had Mars as well as Jupiter going on with the second house.

对。

Right.

没错。

Yeah.

因此，资料继续提到，法鲁克的奢侈挥霍以及对人民经济现实的漠视，使他与公众疏远，并促成了最终终结其统治和埃及君主制的革命，他的故事警示着 unchecked 权力与财富的危险。

So it continues, says, Farooq's extravagance and disregard for the economic realities of his people alienated him from the public and contributed to the revolution that ultimately ended his reign and the Egyptian monarchy so that his story serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of unchecked power and wealth.

至于他拥有的某些物品，当人们发现他的宫殿并开始清点时，发现他收藏了两千件丝绸衬衫、一万条丝绸领带、五十根镶钻金手杖，还有一幅阿道夫·希特勒的亲笔签名肖像，这有点奇怪。

And in terms of some of the stuff that he had, when they found his palace and they started discovering stuff, they found that he had collected he collected 2,000 silk shirts, 10,000 silk silk ties, 50 diamond studded golden walking sticks, and and one autographed portrait from of Adolf Hitler, which is kinda weird.

此外，据说他对收藏的痴迷还延伸到了钻石、狗、邮票、红宝石、法贝热彩蛋、中世纪西藏硬币、中世纪盔甲、阿司匹林药瓶、剃须刀片、回形针和盖革计数器。

He Elsewhere it says his obsession with collection also ranged into diamonds, dogs, stamps, rubies, fabrushe eggs, ancient Tibetan coins, medieval suits of armor, aspirin bottles, razor blades, paper clips, and Geiger counters.

这太随机了。

That's so random.

对。

Right.

太疯狂了。

It's so crazy.

所以我就想说一下，是的。

So it's like I'm just trying to give some Yeah.

展示一下照片。

Show the picture.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Exactly.

这就像是，尽管火星位置良好，但月亮的位置却不佳，显然这也是导致饥饿感的一部分，以及你所说的与北交点成合相的一部分。

It's like having So it's like even though Mars is well placed, that Moon is not well placed and obviously that's potentially also part of the hunger part and part of the insatiable conjunct the North Node as you were saying.

但同时，由于月亮掌管代表事业的第十宫，让你因这一点而闻名，留下你对世界的印记，这确实非常显著。

But then also just to become known for that in terms of your reputation and the mark that you leave on the world with the moon ruling the tenth house of career, think is really notable.

是的。

Yeah.

这非常引人注目。

That's very striking.

是的。

Yeah.

确实将你的公众声誉——至少最终如此——与第二宫的财产和财富紧密联系在一起。

Really tying together, yeah, your public reputation, at least eventually, and the second house of like possessions and wealth.

是的。

Yeah.

据说1954年他的硬币收藏拍卖是二十世纪规模最大的一次拍卖。

It says the 1954 auction of his coin collection was the biggest auction of the twentieth century.

所以，你知道，某种东西的最大规模。

So have you know, the biggest of something.

所以这显然是一位第二宫配置非常强的人，他的金钱和财务以极其重要的方式显现出来。

So this is obviously somebody who has major second house placement and whose money and finances came up in a very, very significant way.

最后要提的一点是，他被迫让我用轮盘来为你展示行运。

One last point to mention is just he was forced to let me do animate by wheel to show you the transits.

我现在花了很多时间在这上面，但我发现了一些我之前根本不知道的案例。

Now I'm spending a lot of time on this one, but I found some of these ones that just I hadn't known about.

我认为是奥洛指出这个星盘给我的，我对它有多出色、这些人的生活有多迷人感到震惊。

I think Orlo was the one that pointed this chart out to me, and I'm just shocked at how good it is and how fascinating the lives of some of these people are.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

所以我们应该继续。

So we should Go ahead.

你刚才想说什么？

What were you gonna say?

我只是想说，关于这个人的传记确实有点跑题了，我知道，但有时候，确实会因为占星学的契合度如此之高，而感到兴奋，觉得这是个绝佳的例子。

I was just gonna say it was a little bit of a rabbit hole, I know, the biography on this person, but sometimes, yeah, you're just so excited about how well the astrology fits and what what a good example this is.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

所以我想分享最后一点，我对此非常着迷，因为我觉得这是 Transit 的一个绝佳例子。

So this is the last point I want to share just that I was fascinated by because I thought it was a great example of a transit.

这是星盘，你可以看到双轮图。

This is the chart, you can see the bi wheel.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yes.

1952年7月26日，他被迫退位，并在一场军事政变中被流放。

So on 07/26/1952, he was forced to abdicate his throne and he was exiled in a military coup.

看看火星的位置。

Look at where Mars is.

火星位于天蝎座。

Mars is in Scorpio.

它正在经过他的第二宫。

It's transiting his second house.

他有一个日盘。

And he has a day chart.

不，是夜盘。

Or no, has a night chart.

是夜盘。

Has a night chart.

尽管如此，火星正在经过他的第二宫。

Nonetheless, Mars is transiting his second house.

而这正是关键所在，他随后几乎失去了全部财富。

And it's like that was the big thing is he then lost all of his wealth for the most part.

他失去了所有财产，这些财产后来被拍卖，这一切都始于火星经过第二宫的时期。

He lost all of his possessions that then get auctioned off, and it all starts under this transit of Mars through the second house.

是的，这真的很有意思。

Yeah, that's really interesting.

当然，这还受到土星和海王星在夜盘中经过第一宫的叠加影响。

It's of course backed up by Saturn and Neptune transiting the first in a night chart.

是的，这对他自己来说真的非常艰难。

Yeah, Which is really hard from him personally.

但接着，我刚刚提到，他的钱币收藏品最大规模的拍卖发生在1954年。

But then, you know, I just mentioned how the biggest auction of his coin collection happened in 1954.

看看1954年土星的位置。

Look where Saturn is in 1954.

土星进入他的第二宫，基本上在接下来的两三年里，他们开始变卖他所有的财产。

Saturn goes into his second house, and basically they start selling off all of his stuff over that two or three year period.

哇。

Wow.

等等，那是他还在世的时候，还是已经去世了？

Wait, was that when he was still alive or not alive?

是的。

Yeah.

那之后他还活了一段时间。

He stayed alive for a while after that.

我的意思是，有一件奇怪的事是，他在革命前的1952年刚有了一个儿子，他们最初甚至让他的儿子当上了国王。

I mean, one of the things that was weird is that they He just had a son in 1952 right before the revolution, And they actually initially made his son king.

从技术上讲，他那尚在襁褓中的儿子成为了埃及最后一位国王。

Technically his infant son became the last king of Egypt.

但一年后，他们废除了君主制，最终将埃及转变为共和国，结束了长达数世纪的法老统治。

But then after a year, they got rid of that and just made it a republic basically in the end of a long reign of monarchs ruling Egypt.

好的。

Okay.

是的。

Yeah.

所以，无论如何，这是一个最奢侈的例子之一。

So anyway, that's one of the most extravagant examples.

实际上，我还有许多其他奢侈的例子，因为我开始研究亿万富翁和世界上最富有者的星盘。

Actually, have many other extravagant examples because I started getting into the charts of billionaires and the richest people in the world.

但这个例子在某种程度上更有趣，正如我们之前所说，有时第二宫的行星可以描述你对中产到物质事物的态度。

But that was one of the more interesting ones in terms of how, as we were saying, sometimes planets in the second house can describe your orientation towards middle to material things.

嗯。

Mhmm.

当然。

For sure.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Alright.

我们来看看还有没有其他的

Let's see if there's other

我喜欢那个实际上的，你先说吧。

I like the Actually Oh, go ahead.

你刚才想说什么？

What were you gonna say?

我喜欢丹尼·德维托那个作为金星的例子。

I like the Danny DeVito one as a Venus.

我们其实没有太多金星的例子。

We don't really have Venus ones.

你有那个数据吗？

Do you have the data for that one?

是的。

Yeah.

我就在这儿呢。

I have that up right here.

好的。

Okay.

好的。

Okay.

所以还没显示在屏幕上。

So it's not on the screen yet.

好的。

Okay.

好了，出现了。

There we go.

所以是丹尼·德维托。

So Danny DeVito.

我知道这真的很有趣。

So I know it's really interesting.

所以星盘必须反映你的一生，而时间则显示出它的展开过程。

So natal charts have to reflect your entire life, and then the timing sort of shows its unfoldment.

对吧？

Right?

所以人们常常好奇，名人成名之前都做过些什么。

So people often wonder what celebrities did, like, before they became super famous.

而丹尼·德维托当然是一位著名的演员。

And so Danny DeVito is, of course, a famous actor.

但在他成为著名演员之前，他为了赚钱曾在他姐姐的美容院工作。

But before he was a famous actor, one of the things he did for income was he worked in his sister's beauty salon.

她送他去美容学校学习，为她美容院的顾客剪发。

She sent him to beauty school to cut client's hair in her salon.

所以我很喜欢这个例子，金星在第二宫，象征着美这一普遍意义。

And so I just like that as a Venus in the second house, you know, example of just like beauty as a general signification.

但更有趣、更独特的是，她美容院的顾客基本上都是老年女性。

But one of the funnier things about it, and more unique things about it was, so her salon kinda her the clientele just ended up being elderly women, like, for the most part.

他发现自己处于这样一种情况：他为这些年迈的女士剪发，而其中一些人后来去世了，她们的家人知道他是她们的理发师，于是便请他为逝者整理遗容发型。

And he found himself in the circumstance where he would cut these very old ladies hair, and then some of them would pass away, and their families would know that he was like their hairdresser, and so they would ask him to do the person's hair, like, for their funeral.

所以丹尼·德维托的金星位于第二宫，由摩羯座守护，而摩羯座的守护星土星位于第八宫。

And so Danny DeVito has Venus in the second house ruled by it's in Capricorn, ruled by Saturn in the eighth house.

这又是一个有趣而具体的例子，将‘美’作为收入来源的象征，与‘死亡’这一主题直接联系起来，因为土星位于第八宫。

And it's just like, again, another funny like literal example, where it's tying together the signification of beauty as like the form of income, but it's connected with the topic of mortality, literally, with Saturn in the eighth house.

第八宫掌管死亡主题，而土星则普遍象征年老与死亡。

Both the eighth house governing the topic of mortality, and Saturn as a general significator of old age and death.

我觉得这真是一个极其引人入胜的例子。

And I thought that was like a fascinating fascinating one.

是的。

Yeah.

这太不可思议了。

That's incredible.

是的。

Yeah.

哦，土星也掌管第二宫和第三宫。

Oh, Saturn also rules the second and third.

所以你经常看到由同一颗行星掌管的宫位之间会有联系。

So you often see topics tied together of houses that are ruled by the same planet.

这实际上是她妹妹的美发沙龙，是她推动他去上美容学校，我想可能还支付了学费。

And so it was literally his sister's salon, and she was the one who pushed him to go to beauty school, and I think maybe paid for it.

因此，土星将第二宫的收入主题与第三宫的兄弟姐妹主题联系在一起。

And so Saturn's tying together the topics of the second house of income and the third house of siblings.

不错。

Nice.

是的。

Yeah.

我们会经常看到这种情况，你必须同时关注行星所掌管的两个宫位，然后这些含义通常会带入第二宫；或者你也需要关注第二宫的守护星所掌管的两个宫位，以及它所落的宫位，它们会相互关联。

That's something that we're gonna see a lot of, that you have to pay attention to both of the houses the planet rules, and then it will often import those significations into the second house or alternatively that you have to pay attention to both houses that the ruler of the second rules as well as the house that it's located in, and it will tie those together.

嗯。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

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好的。

Alright.

我们休息完毕，回来了。

We're back from break.

所以我想快速再讲几个行星的例子，来把这部分内容补充完整。

So I wanna quickly go through a few more planet examples in order to round this out.

其中一个我想快速提到的是伯尼·麦道夫，他的上升星座是狮子座，海王星位于代表财富和财产的第二宫。

So one of them I wanna talk about quickly is Bernie Madoff, who had Leo rising and Neptune in the second house of money and possessions.

他实际上因策划了历史上最大的庞氏骗局而闻名，这是一种金融欺诈形式。

And he was actually known for committing the largest Ponzi scheme in history, which was a form of financial fraud, essentially.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

这就是你让新投资者或新受害者（视情况而定）来支付你欠老投资者的钱。

That's when you get new investors or new victims as the case may be to pay off what you owe to the old older people.

对。

Right.

所以就是你让人投资某个东西，拿走他们的钱，然后花掉。

So it's like you get people to invest in something, you take their money, and then you spend it.

然后为了还给刚刚拿钱的那个人，你再找另一个人投资，拿走他们的钱，再给第一个人。

And then in order to pay back the person you just took the money from, you get somebody else to invest money, and then you take their money and give it to the first person.

没错。

Exactly.

是的

Yeah.

所以我觉得这很有趣，尤其是关于海王星的欺骗性特质。

So I thought that was interesting just in terms of the the deceptive quality of Neptune.

对他而言，他显然在第二宫中以负面方式运用了它。

And for him, he used it obviously negative negatively there in his second house.

他的星盘中还有其他因素在起作用。

There's other stuff going on in his chart as well.

比如，他有逆行的水星掌管着与冥王星成刑相。

Like, he has retrograde Mercury ruling at square Pluto.

但有趣的是，你实际上找到了另一个相关的星盘，因为你又找到了一个。

But interestingly, you actually found another relevant chart for that because you found you found another one.

对吧？

Right?

是的

Yeah.

查尔斯·庞兹本人的星盘。

The chart of Charles Ponzi himself.

令人惊讶的是，我们找到了那个以庞兹骗局闻名的人的出生时间。

Surprisingly, there was a birth time for, who was of course who the Ponzi scheme, you know, famously was named after.

他是第一个这样的人。

He was like the first guy.

他可能不是历史上第一个做这种事的人，但他是第一个因这种行为而广为人知的人，后来这种现象就以他的名字命名了。

Not probably not the first guy in history to do this, but you know, he was the first guy who like notably was really famous for doing this, and then you know, had this this phenomenon named after him.

一种臭名昭著的遗产。

Sort of infamous legacy.

我花了一点时间才找到它。

It is taking me a minute to find it.

但这就是他的星盘。

But here's the chart.

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以这个更关乎第二宫的主宰星。

So this one, it's more about the ruler of the second.

所以这是一个夜盘。

So this one is a night chart.

北交点在第二宫，而在夜盘中，木星作为其主宰星位于第七宫，代表另一方、另一个人。

North node in the second, Jupiter is ruling it in a night chart placed in the seventh house of like the other party, the other person.

它与冥王星形成较紧密的合相。

It's somewhat closely conjunct Pluto.

这是一个木星与冥王星的合相，我们之前讨论过，这与巨额财富有关。

It's it's a Jupiter Pluto conjunction, which we've talked about big money.

但这是夜盘中的木星，因此可能带来缺乏根基的过度丰盛。

But it's night chart Jupiter, so that can be a little bit of an overabundance without foundation.

海王星它

Neptune It's

有趣的是，马托夫的第二宫主宰星与冥王星成刑相，而我们在这里看到查尔斯·庞兹的第二宫主宰星与冥王星合相，这体现了冥王星有时所具有的操控特质。

interesting in terms of just the that the Mattof had like the ruler of the second square Pluto, and here we find Charles Ponzi with ruler of the second conjunct Pluto, and just the manipulative component of Pluto sometimes.

是的

Yeah.

而且还让事情变得更大，这就是木星与冥王星的组合。

And also just making things even bigger, which is a, you know, Jupiter Pluto thing.

所以他第七宫里还有海王星和土星。

And so he's also got Neptune and Saturn in the seventh as well.

所以他第七宫有一个庞大的星群，包括第二宫的守护星。

So he's got a big seventh house stellium, you know, with the ruler of the second house.

我觉得这非常有趣且贴切，反映了庞氏骗局的本质——不断有更多人卷入其中。

And I just thought that was really funny and evocative in terms of the nature of the Ponzi scheme, you know, the phenomenon is just getting more and more people involved.

对吧？

Right?

就像你总是需要新的客户，新的，你知道的，客户兼受害者。

Like, you just always need like new clients, new, you know, clients slash victims.

这不正是第七宫的木星冥王星组合的写照吗？

And that's just like, what is Jupiter Pluto in the seventh?

但就像，有很多很多人。

But like, you know, lots and lots of people.

当然，土星在那里并不理想，因为这是夜盘。

So and of course, Saturn there is not great because it is a night chart.

海王星在那里，代表了幻觉等方面。

Neptune is there for the illusory aspect and so forth.

有趣的是，冥王星也与中天成刑相。

And interestingly, Pluto is squaring the Midheaven as well.

没错。

Exactly.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

所以仅仅是木星，作为第二宫和第七宫的守护星，在他的案例中，就是从别人那里拿钱。

So just Jupiter in this ruler of the second and the seventh and like in his instance, taking money from other people.

对。

Right.

然后变成了大笔钱财。

And it became big money.

但当然，你知道，那是虚幻的，后来他把全部都丢了。

But then, of course, you know, it was illusory and then he lost the entire thing.

对。

Right.

当然。

For sure.

好的。

Alright.

这很不错。

That's pretty good.

其他的

Other ones

那就是关于那一个的事。

There that was something about that one.

事实上，令人惊讶的是，尽管这件事如此著名，但它全部发生在1919年到1920年不到一年的时间里。

It was actually in a second surprisingly for how famous this is, it all happened within less than a year in 1919 and 1920.

当这一切发生时，他开始时是37岁，而37岁是第二个完美之年，我觉得这太完美了。

And when this all went down, he was when he started it, he was 37, which is a second house perfection year, which I thought was perfect.

所以这真正突显了那一年的星群。

So it's really highlighting that stellium that year.

不错。

Nice.

所以，是的，它激活了位于第七宫的木星。

So, yeah, it activated that Jupiter, which is in the seventh house.

但有时候，从研究的角度出发，退一步来看，作为一个整体方法，当你认为自己已经理解了某个命盘中的关键配置意味着什么时，可以去看看当时的行运和年运，来确认是否在事件发生时被激活了，这通常能很好地验证你是否正确地识别了命盘中的关键特征。

But sometimes in terms of just doing research to take a step back as a meta thing, like a good way to confirm sometimes when you think you know, you're looking at a natal chart signature placement that means something to then look at the the transits and the profections to see if that was activated at the time of the event that it occurred, and that can often act as a good confirmation that you are looking at the right signature in the chart.

嗯。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

很好。

Nice.

很好。

Nice.

好的。

Alright.

不错。

That's good.

另一个例子，有一个我很感兴趣，这是我们最近才获得出生时间的，因为她最近去世了。

Other examples one of the ones that was interesting this is one I just found that we had a birth time for recently because she died recently.

但露丝博士是一位著名的作家，同时也是一位脱口秀和广播节目主持人，她出生时双子座上升，水星作为命主星位于巨蟹座的第二宫，与冥王星合相，并与火星和天王星成刑相。

But doctor Ruth, was, like, a famous just like a writer, basically, as well as, like, talk show host and radio show host, she was born with Gemini rising with Mercury ruling the Ascendant placed in Cancer in the second whole sign house conjunct Pluto and squaring Mars and Uranus.

这个例子的基本要点是，她主要是一位作家和演讲者，这也是她赚钱的方式。

And the basic point for this just in terms of a planet example is just that she was primarily like a writer and a speaker, and that's how she made her money.

她还以直言不讳、毫不避讳谈论禁忌话题而闻名，尤其是在那个时代。

She also was known for being very frank or blunt and not shying away from saying things or getting into topics that were taboo, especially for the time.

我认为这正是其他与水星相关的行星连接所体现的——比如冥王星，让人敢于谈论禁忌话题。

And I think that's where those other planetary connections with Mercury are coming out with, like, Pluto and willing to talk about taboo things.

火星刑克水星可能让人非常直率，有时甚至过于直白；而刑克天王星则会给一个人的沟通风格带来一种叛逆的特质。

Mars, square Mercury is can be very blunt, sometimes too much at times, and squaring Uranus can bring a a, like, rebel sort of quality to the person's communication style.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

没错。

Right.

这很有趣，因为现在这些话题已经没那么禁忌了，但你知道，这个星盘展现的是她生活所处的背景，而在当时确实如此。

And it's it's funny because of course now that's not as taboo, but you know, this this chart is showing the context of her life and earlier on it certainly was.

你会发现，即使行星之间没有形成紧密的合相，只要它们共同出现，也会产生影响。

And you'll find that, you know, with any planets co present even if they're not super close by conjunction.

是的。

Yeah.

当时这绝对是禁忌，尤其是在她谈论这些话题的二十世纪八十年代甚至九十年代。

It absolutely was taboo at the time, especially the nineteen eighties or even nineties when she was talking about some of that stuff.

这被视为非常大胆露骨。

It was seen as very risque.

嗯。

Mhmm.

没错。

Exactly.

是的。

Yeah.

所以这样很好。

So that's good.

看看我的其他例子，我想提一下莉莉安·贝坦库尔，她曾一度是世界上最富有的女性。

Looking at my other examples, I wanted to mention, yeah, Lillianne Betancourt who was the richest person richest woman in the world for a period of time.

她出生时天蝎座上升，金星位于第二宫，基本上是欧莱雅化妆品帝国的继承人。

And she was born with Scorpio rising and Venus in the second house, and she was the heir to the L'Oreal makeup and cosmetics empire basically.

我觉得她的收入和财富来自化妆品，这真是太棒了。

And I thought that was a brilliant that her her income and stuff came through makeup and cosmetics,

而且

and

她凭借金星位于第二宫，一度成为世界上最富有的女性。

she became the richest woman in the world at one point through that with Venus in the second house.

没错。

Right.

对。

Right.

当然，你知道，她还拥有两颗吉星的加持，因为木星是主宰星，这进一步强化了她第二宫的积极能量。

And of course, you know, she also has both benefics connected since Jupiter is ruling, which reinforces the like the positivity of her second house.

但无论如何，金星作为美的普遍象征，其本质就是这样。

But yeah, just the nature of Venus as a general significator for beauty.

是的。

Yeah.

她是一位法国哈里斯社交名媛和女商人。

So she was a French Harris socialite and businesswoman.

她确实与第十二宫存在相互守护关系，当时我在做这项研究时才了解到她。

She does have that mutual reception with the twelfth house and that that at one point, you know, I just learned about her as I was doing this research.

于是我不得不研究她的传记，我非常好奇，因为她的金星位于第二宫，但同时又掌管着代表关系的第七宫以及代表损失、敌人和自我毁灭的第十二宫。

And so I had to research her biography, and I was really curious because she has that strong connection between Venus is in the second house, but it's ruling the seventh house of relationships as well as the twelfth house of loss, enemies, and self undoing.

我在想，第十二宫是如何发挥作用的，因为那里存在着如此强烈的关联。

And I was wondering how that twelfth house played in because there's such a strong connection there.

结果发现，在她生命的最后几十年里，她与一位摄影师建立了某种联系或关系。

And what came up is that in the last few decades of her life, she gotten some kind of connection or relationship with this guy who was like a photographer.

她的女儿最终不得不报警并提起刑事指控，因为她认为母亲被这名男子利用，而这位男子最终让她赠送了数百万美元的礼物。

And her daughter eventually had to contact the police and basically press police charges because she thought her mother was being taken advantage of by this man who ended up she ended up gifting him millions and millions of dollars worth of gifts and stuff.

我认为总额最终达到了十亿美元左右，简直疯狂。

I think it totaled to end up being like a billion dollars or something crazy like that.

法院最终裁定，是的，这一数额是有据可估的。

And the courts eventually did decide that, yeah, it was estimated.

因此，报道称，多年来她给了他巨额资金和礼物，估计价值达13亿美元。

So it says, she gave him huge amounts of money and gifts over the years estimated to be worth $1,300,000,000.

这些礼物包括：2003年一份价值2.53亿美元的人寿保险，2006年另一份价值2.62亿美元的人寿保险，2001年11件艺术品，估值2000万美元，其中包括毕加索、马蒂斯、蒙德里安等人的画作，以及超现实主义摄影师曼·雷和卡什的作品。

And these gifts included, among other things, a life insurance policy worth 253,000,000 in 2003, another life insurance policy worth 262,000,000 in 2006, 11 works of art in 2001 valued at $20,000,000, including paintings by Picasso, Matisse, Mondrian, and a bunch of others, a photograph by surrealist Man Ray and Cash.

因此，她的女儿最终提交了刑事控告，称母亲因心理脆弱而遭到此人的利用。

So her daughter eventually filed a criminal complaint saying her mother was being exploited as a result of a psychological weakness by this guy.

她的管家在法庭上表示，母亲可能患有阿尔茨海默病，并被此人欺骗。

And her butler feared that that in court was suffering from Alzheimer's disease and was being duped.

有一段时间，她甚至试图将此人立为唯一继承人。

At one point, she even attempted to make the guy her sole heir.

但后来，她与他分手，并将他从遗嘱中剔除。

But then eventually, she separated with him and wrote him out of her will.

不久之后，由于精神健康状况恶化，她被法院指定监护人。

And not long after that, she was put under a guardianship due to her declining mental health.

我觉得这太惊人了，因为那些第十二宫的特质在这里确实生动地体现出来了，包括心理健康问题，也包括可能针对你的敌人，或者自我毁灭——当你自己在做一些削弱自己的事却浑然不觉时，再加上金星掌管第七宫关系的特质。

So I thought that was incredible because, you know, some of those twelfth house things really came alive there, including mental health stuff, including potentially, like, people that are working against you or sometimes self undoing, like when you're doing something yourself that's undermining you but you don't realize it, as well as Venus ruling the seventh house of relationships.

嗯嗯。

Mhmm.

当然。

For sure.

把第二宫和第七宫的主题结合起来，就像自我破坏或损失一样。

Pulling together the topics of the second house and the seventh into, like, the self undoing or loss.

有趣的是，天秤座有多个行星聚集，而这些被赠送的物品，比如价值连城的艺术品，以及水星主宰的第八宫位于十二宫的星群中，也与此相关。

It's interesting also that stellium in Libra, and that, you know, so a lot of that was like really valuable artwork that was being given away, as well as like the life insurance policy of Mercury ruling the eighth placed in that cellium in the twelfth.

没错。

Exactly.

我实际上也遇到过几次这种情况，接下来我会用另一个例子说明，有时候星座的特质可以描述一个人花钱的方向或开销的类型。

And I actually I've come across that a few times, and I'll do that as the next example, but where sometimes the quality of the sign can describe what the person spends money on or what the expense is.

尤其是天秤座，经常与艺术和绘画联系在一起。

And Libra keeps coming up as art and paintings especially.

麦当娜就是一个绝佳的例子，我稍后会分享，她拥有木星位于第二宫的天秤座，她收藏的艺术品价值超过一亿美元，尤其是绘画，她说这是自己对艺术的一种奢侈享受。

Madonna a really great example of that that I'll share next who has Jupiter in Libra in the second house and she more than She has over a $100,000,000 worth of art and especially paintings that she says is like an indulgence of her spending money on art.

不错。

Nice.

是的。

Yeah.

所以我想谈谈这个。

So I want to talk about that.

我们实际上有我刚才提到的那位女儿的星盘，非常有趣。

We actually have the the chart of the daughter that I was just talking about, which is really fascinating.

她的名字是弗朗索瓦·贝坦库尔·迈尔斯。

Her name is Francois Betancourt Myers.

她目前是世界上最富有的女性。

She's actually currently the richest woman in the world.

但有趣的是，她更偏向学术和书呆子气质，写过几本书。

What was interesting though about this is she's more academic and nerdy, and she's written a few books.

有趣的是，你看到她的两个吉星都在第三宫，包括她第二宫的守护星。

And it's interesting because you see both of her benefics in the third house, including the ruler of her second.