占星学中的第三宫

这当然是你从父母那里得到的。

Which it's like you're getting that from your parents, course.

每个人都知道早期家庭生活经历的重要性，但其中一部分也包括与之相关的经历，比如你成长过程中的学校经历，以及这些经历是顺利还是遇到了某些问题。

Everybody realizes how important the experiences are in your early home life, but part of that is also or things that are adjacent to that can be like your experiences in school growing up and whether that went well or whether you ran into problems for some reason.

嗯。

Mhmm.

这与第三宫的象征意义对某些人来说有着显著的关联。

Which can strikingly correlate with the symbolism in the third house for people.

对。

Right.

好的。

Alright.

还有一组象征意义。

And one last set of significations.

因此，希腊化时期的作者们非常强调占卜、梦境以及有时的宗教仪式。

So the Hellenistic authors really emphasized divination, dreams, and sometimes religious rites.

这一点之所以被忽略了，是因为在这一阶段，占卜、预言及其他类似事物的关注点通常更多地放在第九宫。

And this is something that's dropped out because it's mainly Usually, the focus of divination and prophecy and other stuff like that usually at this point is more put in the ninth house.

而且它确实在第九宫中频繁出现。

And it does actually come up there quite a bit.

但在我们进行这些研究时，我们一直留意这一点，确实发现了一些星盘，其中占卜尤其与第三宫密切相关。

But this is something that we were kind of keeping an eye out for as we were doing some of this, and we did find some charts where divination especially seemed to be very relevant for the third house.

是的。

Yeah.

这再次涉及第三宫和第九宫的交叉，但有趣的是，如果你认为第九宫更偏向于宗教的整体图景、你的意识形态或世界观之类的东西。

It is a crossover again with the third and ninth, but it's interesting how if you think about the ninth being more like a religion as a big picture, or your ideology, or things like that, your world view.

而第三宫则更侧重于本地化，结合第三宫的其他一些主题，它某种程度上体现了你对这些理念的实践方式。

The third house being more locally based with some of those other topics of the third house, it's kind of like your embodied practice of that sometimes.

从沟通的角度来思考，也特别有意思。

It's also really interesting thinking about it in terms of communication.

对吧？

Right?

因为占卜的时候你做什么？

Because what do you do with a divination?

你提出一个问题。

You ask a question.

所以你实际上是在向某种东西或某人提问，某种程度上是隐含的。

So you're like asking a question of something or someone, kind of, you know, implicitly.

因此，这也是一种沟通的有趣延伸。

And so it's kind of an interesting extension of communication as well.

没错。

Right.

就像与神圣之物的沟通，以及宇宙可以向你传达信息的概念，但这种信息通常或有时是通过占卜者来传达的。

Like a communication with the divine and the concept that the universe can speak to you, but also that it's also being oftentimes or sometimes mediated through the diviner.

如果你去找人做塔罗牌占卜，你就是在和他们进行对话。

If you go to somebody and get a tarot reading, you're having a conversation or a dialogue with them.

当然。

Absolutely.

我还觉得这更偏向居家类的活动，是你可以自己在家完成的事，这和第四宫的引申义相符；而不是像——举个例子，跑去那种全国性的知名庙宇，那更偏向第九宫的范畴。

This is also I'm thinking more home based, like something you can do on your own at home, which is an extension of the fourth house versus like, you know, I don't know, going to like a very like a nationally affiliated temple for instance in the ninth house.

对的。

Right.

确实是这样。

For sure.

说到宗教相关的仪式，我之前看到过一位名人提到过他们的日常祷告流程。

And with religious rights, there was one celebrity I saw where they mentioned like their daily prayer routine.

这让我联想到，对于那些不仅有日常作息，还会进行每日祷告或其他小型宗教崇拜活动的人来说，这或许是一种现代的对应情况，而这类活动就可能属于第三宫的范畴。

And so it made me think of that in terms of that may be a modern parallel for people that have some sort of not just both daily routines, but also if there's some sort of daily prayer or other thing like that or other little minor forms of of religious worship, that may be something that belongs in the third house.

第三宫是希腊化占星传统中提到的一个宫位。

The third house is referred to in the Hellenistic tradition.

它是所谓的「交界于两界之间」的宫位之一，因为作为果宫，它会从始宫逐渐过渡，该宫位内的星座或行星都正朝着下一组始宫三元组过渡。

It's one of the houses that's said to be in between worlds because it's the cadent houses are falling away from the angle and they're transitioning or the sign or planets there are transitioning into the next angular triad.

因此你会发现，「处于两界之间」这类主题在这个宫位里有着非常重要的意义。

So as a result of that, you'll see these these topics of being in between two worlds being very significant.

比如，勒托里乌斯提到第十二宫是介于两个世界之间的分界点，因为它位于一个人出生前与出生后的交界处。

Like, Rhetorius talks about the twelfth house being the in between worlds because it's the dividing point between before the native is born and then after they've been born.

但当你正好处于这个边缘，或站在这两个世界之间时，他也把这个概念延伸到了第三宫、第九宫和第六宫。

But when you're right on the cusp or or standing in between those two worlds, but he extends that concept also to the third house as well as the ninth and sixth.

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

我完全能理解这种表现。

I can totally see that playing out.

而且，作为中介者也可能与这种‘介于两个世界之间’的概念有关。

And it's also like being an intermediary could be a thing there too with the in between worlds.

对。

Yeah.

还有旅行。

As well as traveling.

有时候，即使你只是短途旅行，比如从家去咖啡店，你也在两个世界之间穿梭。

Sometimes when you're traveling even short distances, you're going in between two worlds if you're going from home to the coffee shop or what have you.

确实如此。

Definitely.

好的。

All right.

所以，这些就是那些想深入了解这些含义的人所需要了解的基本含义。

So those are all the basic significations for those that want a deeper dive into that.

三个资源。

Three resources.

首先，我的书《命运与财富的研究》，我在书中更深入地探讨了宫位背后的原理，并讨论了早期希腊化时期的作者们对宫位的看法，我们刚才只是稍微提到了一点。

First, my book, The Study of Fate and Fortune, where I go into the rationale underlying the houses much more deeply and talk about the early Hellenistic authors and what they say about the houses, which we sort of alluded to a little bit here.

但如果你想要更多这方面的内容，不妨去看看这本书。

But if you want more of that, then check that out.

我还会强烈推荐德梅特拉·乔治的《古代占星术：理论与实践》第二卷，她对这些内容做了全面的综述，不仅涵盖古代作者的观点，还延伸到了中世纪、文艺复兴时期以及现代作者的见解。

I would also highly, highly recommend Demetra George's book Ancient Astrology and Theory and Practice Volume two, where she does this just like comprehensive overview, not just of what the ancient authors say, but she also takes it through the medieval and Renaissance and modern authors.

她提供了一个惊人的表格，总结了过去两千年里这些作者对第三宫的主要含义。

She gives this amazing table where she will summarize the primary significations of what all of those authors say basically over the past two thousand years about the third house.

你可以清楚地看到他们对这个宫位看法的演变过程，有时这些含义扩展和变化了，而有些核心意义却始终如一。

And you can really see the evolution of what they were saying about that house and how it sometimes grew and changed and in other ways where what the through line was and what certain significations were that were were constant.

因此，我们在这里提出的许多含义，不仅基于我们基本的理解，也来自我们对星盘的实证研究，以及在准备这次讨论时所发现的一些现象。

So a lot of the significations that we put forward here were just based on our basic understanding as well as our empirical studies of the charts and some of the things that came up as we were preparing for this.

但我还查阅了德梅特拉的著作，以了解她所做的文献综述，以及她所整理出的不同含义，这在某些时候非常有帮助。

But I also looked through Demetra's in order to get a sense of that literature review that she did and and what different significations were and that was helpful at certain points.

因此，如果有人想深入了解各宫位的含义，我强烈推荐这本书。

So I wanted to definitely recommend that book if people want a deeper dive on the significations of the houses.

嗯。

Mhmm.

这是一个非常有用的参考，可以用来进行这样的对比和对照。

That's a really useful reference to compare and contrast like that.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

最后一个是利凡特·拉兹洛。

And then finally, the last one is Levant Laszlo.

感谢他翻译了雷托里乌斯和其他希腊化时期作者的作品，他正在通过Patreon页面上的“霍拉伊计划”进行众筹并免费提供这些译文，网址是horaiproject.com。

Shout out for his translations of Rhetorius and other Hellenistic authors, which he's crowdfunding and making available through his page on Patreon under the Horai Project, which is at horaiproject.com.

在那儿你可以找到他的Patreon链接，如果你订阅，费用其实非常低廉，就能立即获得他所有对这些古代作者作品的翻译。

And then there you'll find a link to his Patreon where if you sign up for it, it's actually very cheap, you get immediate access to all of his translations of these ancient authors.

目前他正在翻译一部现存最古老的关于宫位的长篇文本，作者是埃及的雷托里乌斯。

And right now he's doing a series of translations of the longest text on the houses that survives from ancient times, is from Rhetorius of Egypt.

他今年每个月都会发布一章内容。

And he's going through and he was releasing one chapter of that each month this year.

我参考了他最近在Notorious上发布的第三宫章节，这对理解宫位的原始含义非常有帮助。

And I drew on the third house chapter that he did from Notorious recently that was very helpful for getting to some of those original significations of the houses.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Yeah.

确实该好好谢谢他。

Definitely a shout out to him.

现在还有人在坚持做这项工作，而且大家还能为他提供支持，这真的很让人振奋。

It's really exciting that someone is still doing that work right now and you can support him.

没错。

Yeah.

好的。

Alright.

以上就是宫位的所有征象了。

So that is the significations of the houses.

好的。

Alright.

那接下来我们就要过渡到看一些星盘实例了。

So now we're gonna transition into looking at example charts.

在进入之前，我需要先做一点铺垫。

And first, I need to do a little preface before we get there.

首先，我想感谢一些在为本集寻找星盘案例时给予我们研究协助的人。

So first things first, I wanted to give thanks and give a shout out to some of the people that gave us research assistance as we were searching for chart examples for this episode.

特别是要感谢占星师尼克·迪金·贝斯特、在Twitter或X上关注o_c_astrology的Orla、梅丽莎·马克林和林赛·特纳。

So in particular, shout out to astrologers Nick Diggin Best, Orla on Twitter at o c astrology on Twitter or x, Melissa Marklin, and Lindsey Turner.

他们在研究本集、寻找不同星盘并撰写分析时提供了有益的支持，这很有帮助。

So they all gave us helpful support as we were researching this episode and finding different charts and doing write ups and stuff, so that was helpful.

帕特里克·沃森也给了我一些例子。

Patrick Watson also gave me a few examples.

玛德琳·迪科茨也提供了一个案例，我想是这样。

And Madeline Decoats actually gave us an example as well, think.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的

Yep.

对

Yeah.

还要感谢所有在社交媒体上提交案例的人，以及多位赞助者提供的案例。

So also shout out to everybody who sent in examples on social media, as well as a number of patrons who sent out in examples.

我们非常感激。

We appreciate it.

嗯

Mhmm.

谢谢。

Thank you.

这是收集这么多星盘的唯一方式吗？

It's the only way to collect this many charts?

对

Yeah.

我的意思是，大多数例子我们俩都找到了，但能从不同的人那里收到一些，确实很有帮助。

I mean, most of them I still found and you found, but it was helpful that we got that we got some from from different people.

嗯。

Mhmm.

好的。

Alright.

除此之外，在展示示例图表之前，我先说几点预备性 remarks。

So other than that, preface to example charts, just a few preparatory remarks.

第一，即使看起来像是，这也不会是完全全面的。

One, this is not gonna be fully comprehensive even if it looks like it.

我们会涵盖很多内容，但重点只是让你了解一些不同位置表现方式的样本，而不是穷尽所有可能性。

We're gonna cover a lot, but the point is just to give you a sample of some of the different ways that the placements can manifest instead of delineating every possible thing.

所以很明显，会有一些我们没提到的内容，这没关系。

So obviously, there's gonna be some things that we're not gonna address, you know, which is fine.

你知道的，我们只能做这么多。

You know, we're you can only do so much.

有时候我们会给出负面的例子。

Sometimes we're gonna give negative examples.

当然，负面的星盘位置或不同的位置并不总是以这种方式显现。

And, of course, negative placements or different placements will not always manifest that way.

但我们的目的是让你了解各种可能性的完整范围。

But the point is just to give you an idea of the full range of different possibilities.

对于一些困难的星盘位置，我们将重点关注更困难的方面。

For some difficult placements, we're gonna focus on more difficult things.

这很重要。

This is important.

这并不意味着这些星盘位置总会以非常负面的方式显现，但有时有必要讨论这些困难的话题，因为有些人确实会在某些领域面临真正的困境、逆境甚至残疾。

It doesn't mean that these placements will always manifest super negatively, but sometimes it's necessary to be able to be able to address difficult topics just because sometimes people can face real hardships or adversity or even disability in certain areas.

占星师需要能够谈论这些话题，而这些正是你有时会发现相关内容的地方。

And astrologers need to be able to speak to those topics, and that's sometimes where you'll find some of those things.

对吧？

Right?

如果你刚接触占星学并正在听这段内容，这些并不是这些能量展现的唯一方式。

And if you're just getting into astrology and listening to this, this isn't the only way these can play out.

星盘中有很多不同的子因素相互影响。

There's lots of different sub, you know, sub factors that influence each other in the chart.

所以请明白，我们并不是想说，这就是唯一的展现方式，总是负面的，你注定完蛋。

So just know that that we're not trying say, this is the only way this plays out, and it's always negative, and you're doomed.

这并不是我们要传达的信息。

That is not the message.

这只是这些特别复杂、你懂的，各种因素组合在这个特定人生活中的具体表现方式。

This is just how these particular, very complex, you know, combinations of factors play out in this particular person's life.

对。

Right.

当然。

For sure.

在大多数情况下，我们将重点关注更直接、明显的外在表现。

And we're gonna focus on more literal manifestations for the most part that are obvious external things.

嗯。

Mhmm.

但可能既有外在的，也有内在或心理层面的各种表现。

But there can be a whole range of both external as well as internal or psychological manifestations.

嗯。

Mhmm.

当然。

For sure.

好的。

Alright.

我们来看一下。

So let's see.

这显然不是一集普通的播客。

This is not really a casual podcast episode, obviously.

这更像是一次工作坊或强化课程。

This is a workshop or an intensive.

这通常我可以把它写成一本书，或者花整整两到三天的周末时间，让人们飞过来参加这个完整的强化课程。

This is something I could normally actually turn into a book or do over the course of a whole two to three day weekend where people would fly out and see this presentation as a full intensive.

但我们会把它做成免费播客发布出来，因为我们从Patreon页面和其他渠道获得的支持让我们能够这样做。

But we're gonna do it and put it out there as a free podcast because of the support that we receive from patrons through our page on Patreon and other things that allow us to do that.

但对我来说，我希望对这个话题进行全面深入的探讨，因为如果我只讲一次这个主题，这将是我最全面、最深入的一次尝试。

But for me, I wanted to do a comprehensive treatment to this topic that was like, if I'm only gonna talk about this topic one time, this is gonna be my best and most comprehensive shot at it.

所以这就是我们的目标。

So that's the goal here.

是的。

Yeah.

因此，对于本集最终的时长，我不会做任何解释或道歉。

So I make no episode or or or apologies for whatever the final length of the episode ends up being.

我们拭目以待吧。

We'll see how it goes.

但我们免费发布出来。

But we're putting it out there for free.

所以，如果深度解析对你来说太难了，也没关系。

So, yeah, if if deep dives are too much for you, it's okay.

你可以现在就退出了。

And you can turn back turn back now.

提前提醒一下。

Fair warning.

是的。

Yeah.

这是提前提醒。

It's fair warning.

重要的信息通常会在图表中以多种方式出现。

Important things often show up in multiple ways in the charts.

我们将重点关注几件具体的事情，但可能还有一些我们没有指出的其他内容，因为那不是我们的重点，或者其他人可能会发现我们忽略的其他观察结果。

We're gonna focus on a few specific things, but there may be other things that we don't point out just because that's not our focus or other observations that others might see that we overlooked.

所以如果你发现了什么有趣的东西，欢迎在YouTube评论区留言告诉我们。

So if you see something interesting, then feel free to post it in the YouTube comments and let us know.

很遗憾，数据库里关于男性的时间跨度图表比女性的多，这就造成了数据差距。

There are more time charts in the databases unfortunately for men than there are women, which creates a disparity.

你也知道，我们已经尽了最大努力，想在一定程度上弥补这个问题。

And, you know, we've done our best to try to offset that to some extent here.

但举个例子说，截至录制本期内容时，美国还从未出现过女总统。

But, you know, for example, as of this recording, there still has not been a woman president of The United States.

所以这个问题不只是出在数据库上，还和迄今为止女性在社会中的处境有关：和过往绝大多数历史时期相比，近些年来的情况已经发生了天翻地覆的变化，而这种差异给我们开展这类研究工作带来了一些难题。

So part of the issue is it's not just the databases, but it's how it's the place of women in society up to this point and how different things have become in recent times compared to the vast majority of past history, and that creates some issues in terms of doing research and stuff like this.

所以为了呈现出最好的案例，我们不得不直面这种差异的存在，不过我们也确实在努力抵消这一问题带来的影响。

So for the sake of presenting the best examples, we'll have to deal with the existence of this disparity, although we do try to offset it.

不过希望未来不管是在数据收集层面，还是在我们整个社会层面，这个问题都能不复存在，或者至少不会再像现在这样棘手。

Although, hopefully, in the future, this will cease to be an issue or as much of an issue both in the data collections as well as in our society in general.

对。

Yeah.

而且这不单单和人们的社会地位有关，还和是谁收集了哪些人的出生时间信息有关。

And it's not just, like, people's place in society, but also who's gathered the birth times from which people.

所以我们只能使用现有的出生时间数据，因为我们在这里所做的工作，以及大部分工作，都需要时间图。

And so we have to work with the birth times that are available because this requires time charts, what we're doing here, and most of what we're doing.

因此，我们确实做出了很大努力，试图以多种方式平衡这些数据。

And so, we did actually make a big effort to try to balance things out in different ways.

但我们也需要一些能很好说明我们所讨论内容的实例。

But we also need like good examples of what we're talking about.

所以提前提醒一下。

So just as a heads up.

是的。

Yeah.

数据库中男性的出生时间数据很多，但这也是一个机会，我认为这一代占星师开始看到的变化是：如果这一代占星师能够被赋能，主动去向他们崇拜的名人、感兴趣的人或新闻人物索取出生时间，这种差距就会开始得到弥补。

So there's a lot of time charts for men in the databases, but that's one of the opportunities that I think One of the things that I'm starting to see change with this generation is especially if this generation of astrologers gets empowered to go out and ask especially celebrities for their birth time of people that they are fans of or people that they find interesting or people that are in the news, then that will start to offset this disparity.

但这更像是一个社区共同参与的事情，每一位占星师都需要参与进来，帮助解决我们社区中的这种数据缺口。

But it's sort of like a community thing that we all have to be involved in each individual astrologer to help fix that sort of gap in our community.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对的。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

正如我在第二宫那一集提到的，Leisa 这里帮我呈现我大量的研究内容，因为我现在无法长时间独自讲话了，我的嗓音因长期新冠问题而容易疲劳。

And then finally, as I said in the second house episode, Leisa's here helping me to present a lot of my research for this because I can't speak for long periods of time on my own anymore because my voice goes out due to my issues with long COVID.

所以我无论讲解什么内容，都需要有人在这里和我对话，尤其是当我呈现那些我研究得更深入的内容时——本集的大部分星盘案例都是关于我的。

So I always need to have somebody here to talk to even when I'm presenting stuff that's oftentimes more things that I've researched more thoroughly where most of my chart examples in this episode are gonna be for me.

这不过是实际情况的一部分。

And that's just part of the deal.

不过我还是想明确说明一下，以免在不同时间点我提到更多这些案例时让人产生误解。

However, just wanted to make that clear just in case it seems like I'm talking about more of these examples at different points.

不过在本集中，Leisa 的参与度要高得多，过去几周我们两人之间的合作也比上一集关于第二宫的节目更加紧密。

Although in this episode, Leisa's been much more involved and this has been much more of a collaborative effort between the two of us over the past few weeks than the previous episode on the second house.

是的。

Yeah.

上次我几乎是最后一刻才突然加入，但这次我多花了一些时间准备，对话也更多了，我还找到了更多图表案例。

Last time I just kind of jumped in at the last minute more or less, but this time I've been working on it a little bit more and it's been more of a dialogue and I found more chart examples as well.

是的，当然。

Yeah, For sure.

这起到了极大的作用，所以这确实是一次更紧密的合作。

And that's been hugely instrumental, so this is definitely more of a collaboration.

我仍然会更多地讨论某些示例图表。

I'm still gonna be going on more about certain example charts.

有些部分我更熟悉，而有些部分则是你贡献更多。

There's gonna be certain parts that I'm more familiar with or others where you've contributed more in in certain sections.

嗯。

Mhmm.

但这就是我要提前说明的。

But yeah, so just a preface to that.

但和你一起制作这个内容非常令人兴奋，过去几周真的很有成就感。

But it's been exciting putting this together with you, and it's been really fulfilling over the past few weeks.

是的，当然。

Yeah, definitely.

我也这么认为。

I think so too.

我想就这些了。

I think that's it.

我们开始讨论上升星座的守护星吧？

Shall we jump into the ruler of the Ascendant?

我们应该。

We should.

好的。

Alright.

我们开始吧。

Here we go.

那我先开始。

So I'm gonna start first.

上升点的守护星，正如我在前几期节目里提到的，是星盘里最重要的星体之一，它能够反映盘主整体的人生方向与人生重心。

The ruler of the Ascendant, as I said in the previous episodes, is one of the most important planets in the chart, and it can show something about the natives overall life direction and focus.

如果上升点的守护星落入第三宫，就意味着第三宫相关的议题会对你格外重要——你整个人生轨迹的走向会和这个领域绑定，或者说你人生里的重要转折点都和第三宫象征的事物息息相关，由这些事物催生。

So when the ruler of the Ascendant is placed in the third house, it means that some of those topics are gonna be more important for you in directing something about your overall life story towards that specific area or making it so that some important turning points in your life have to do or rise from third house things.

所以今天这期内容里，我们就来聊聊上升点守护星的不同落点情况。

So in this section, we are going to talk about some rule of the Ascendant placements.

不过很遗憾，为了给出我的第一个、也是最贴切的例子，我得先举一个人的星盘案例：这个人的事业宫（第十宫）守护星落入了象征亲友关系的第三宫。

And, unfortunately, in order to set up my very first and best example, I first have to do an example of somebody that had the ruler of the tenth house of career in the third house of relatives.

那我们把这个内容调出来吧。

So let's pull it up.

对应的这个人就是伊丽莎白二世女王。

So that person is queen Elizabeth the second.

那位几年前刚刚离世的伊丽莎白二世女王，她的上升星座是摩羯座，整宫制的第十宫落在天秤座，而幸运点就位于这个宫内。

So queen Elizabeth the second who just passed away, what, a few years ago had Capricorn rising and Libra on the tenth whole sign house where the lot of fortune is placed.

而掌管事业的第十宫的守护星是金星，金星也落在天秤座，我刚刚说错了，补充一下。

And the ruler of the tenth whole sign house of career is placed is Venus, which is placed in Libra I'm sorry.

金星位于双鱼座，处于其落陷位置，位于第三宫，代表兄弟姐妹、亲戚、姨妈、舅舅和大家庭。

Venus is placed in Pisces where it's exalted in the third house, which is the place of siblings, relatives, aunts, uncles, and extended family.

关于伊丽莎白女王，有趣的是，她原本并不被预期会成为女王。

So what was interesting about queen Elizabeth and what's interesting about her life is that originally she wasn't supposed to be queen.

原本她的叔叔才是国王。

It was her uncle that was king.

但后来他突然决定要娶一位平民女子。

But what happened is that he suddenly decided that he wanted to marry a commoner basically.

为了做到这一点，他必须退位。

And in order to do that, he had to step down as king.

于是他退位，离开王室去结婚。

So he stepped down as king so he could run off and get married.

这使得伊丽莎白女王的父亲成为国王，从而让她进入王位继承序列，最终在父亲不久后去世时继位为女王。

And that made queen Elizabeth's father king, which then put queen Elizabeth in the line of succession where she would eventually become queen after her father died not too long afterwards.

这个例子的有趣之处在于，第十宫（事业）的守护星如此有力地落在第三宫，预示着她的叔叔将退位，从而最终使她成为女王。

So what's interesting about this example is that with the ruler of the tenth house of Korea so well placed in the third house that it's pointing to the fact that her uncle basically would abdicate, which would end up making her queen.

有趣的是，金星同时与天王星同位于双鱼座，且都在她的第三宫，因为这一切都出人意料。

And it's interesting that it's co present with Uranus and Pisces at the same time also in her third house because it was unexpected.

这本不该发生。

It's something that wasn't supposed to happen.

是的。

Yeah.

这本不该发生。

It wasn't supposed to happen.

因此，有趣的是，第十宫的主宰星与天王星同在，这意味着计划的改变直接导致了她在社会中的地位或声望的提升。

And so it's interesting that the ruler of the tenth is with Uranus, and so, like, a change of plans, like, led to basically her place in society, or her prominences in society.

金星不仅在双鱼座得尊，而且出现在夜盘中，这是最有利的配置。

Venus is also not just exalted in Pisces, but it is in a night chart, so that's like the most positive placement.

因此，她实际上变得非常显赫，正如得尊的行星所象征的，不仅代表积极的事物，也通过亲属带来显赫地位。

So literally, she became very prominent, like an exalted planet can also just indicate prominence, as well as something positive about it via a relative.

来自亲属的计划变更。

The change of plans from a relative.

对。

Right.

特别是她的叔叔。

And specifically her uncle, basically.

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

所以这就是例子，也是背景铺垫。

So that is the example, and that's the setup.

因此，对我们而言，额外的收获是她姐姐的出生星盘。

And so the payoff for our purposes additionally is the birth chart of her sister.

这是她姐姐玛格丽特公主的出生星盘，她出生时上升星座为白羊座，上升星座的守护星是火星——白羊座的守护星，位于第三整宫的双子座。

This is the birth chart of her sister, Princess Margaret, who was born with Aries rising, and the ruler of the Ascendant then is Mars, the planet that rules Aries, and it's placed in Gemini in the third whole sign house.

所以，她上升星座的守护星位于兄弟姐妹宫。

So the ruler of her Ascendant is placed in the house of siblings.

所以，你知道，她和伊丽莎白是一起长大的。

So, you know, her and Elizabeth grew up together.

但当这个变化发生时——她的叔叔，也就是她们父亲的兄弟，退位了，王位传给了父亲，一瞬间，玛格丽特的姐姐就成了女王。

But then when this change happened, when her uncle their uncle abdicated, their father's brother abdicated the crown and gave it to the father, all of a sudden it meant that Margaret's sister was the queen.

因此，这突然改变了这对姐妹之间的关系，同时也让玛格丽特成为若伊丽莎白发生意外时的王位第二顺位继承人。

So all of a sudden, kind of changes the dynamic between these two siblings, but it also sets it up so that Margaret then was the second in line to the throne if something had happened to Elizabeth.

因此，随之而来的问题是：如果姐姐出了什么事，我能成为女王吗？

So as a result of that, there was not attention, but there was an open question of, Could I become queen if something happens to my sister?

更广泛地说，一旦她的姐姐成为女王并掌权，玛格丽特的许多生活都或多或少围绕着姐姐作为女王的行动而展开。

And more broadly also that once her sister became queen and was put in power, a lot of Margaret's life then was sort of not dictated by, but kind of built around what her sister was doing as the queen at that point.

嗯。

Mhmm.

我确信它还以其他方式产生了影响。

And I'm sure it played out in other ways as well.

但想想看，如果你是社会上一位极其著名人物的兄弟姐妹，那这几乎就是你最初被认知的方式。

But just think of, if you're the sibling of someone really famous in society, like that is just literally how you're gonna first be known.

你是女王的妹妹。

You're the sister of the queen.

对吧？

Right?

即使你做了其他事情，即使你做了其他与第三宫相关的事，这仍然是她一生中身份的核心部分，尤其是当她的上升主星落在那里时。

Like even if you do other things, and even if you do other third house things, that's just like a prominent part of her identity as a whole throughout her whole life with her Ascendant ruler being placed there.

是的。

Yeah.

完全正确。

Totally.

有一件很有趣的事是，在她姐姐登基、叔叔退位的同一年早些时候，发生了一次双子座的日食。

One of the things that's cool is that there was actually an eclipse in the sign of Gemini earlier in the same year that her sister became queen and her uncle abdicated.

所以我们将会看到很多类似的例子：出生图中所指示的重大事件，我们所讨论的那些，往往会在事件发生前后，通过行运、尤其是日食来预示或时间上相呼应。

So that's a theme that we're gonna see a lot is just we found a ton of examples where the major event that was indicated in the birth chart and then that we talk about will actually be foreshadowed or the timing will line up either by a transit or especially by an eclipse around the time of the event.

是的。

Yeah.

是的，我们都发现了大量这样的例子。

Yeah, we both found a ton of those.

过了一阵子，这简直变得好笑起来。

It was all comical after a while.

我当时就想，好吧。

I was like, okay.

对。

Yes.

这突显了第三宫以及第三宫的变化。

It's highlighting the third house and change in third house.

所以，就这个故事而言，随着伊丽莎白生了孩子和孙子孙女，她的王位继承顺位在接下来的几十年里逐渐下降，他们成为了继承序列中的人。

So when it when it comes to this story, her position in the line of succession did diminish over the following decades as Elizabeth had children and grandchildren so that they became the ones that were in the line of succession.

但即便如此，她的一生仍然与王室密不可分。

But nonetheless, her life was still inherently sort of tied to the monarchy.

尽管许多兄弟姐妹关系亲密，但她们作为王室成员的独特处境，使得玛格丽特公主的生活与她姐姐伊丽莎白女王的命运紧密交织在一起。

So while many siblings share close relationships, the unique circumstances of their royal lives really made Princess Margaret's life particularly intertwined with that of her sister Queen Elizabeth

嗯。

Mhmm.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

Definitely.

所以这是我最初的例子。

So that's my that's my starting example.

你怎么看？

What do you think?

嗯。

Mhmm.

不。

No.

我觉得这很棒。

I think that's great.

是的。

Yeah.

因为那就是上升宫主星正在做的事情。

Because that is the that is what the Ascendant ruler is doing.

无论上升宫主星落在哪个宫位、星座以及形成什么相位。

Wherever the Ascendant ruler is placed by house and sign and aspects.

这就像在说一些关于你的身份或你作为一个人被认知的方式。

That's like saying something about your your identity or how you are known as a person.

所以，是的。

So, yeah.

这简直是一个完美的第一个例子。

That's like a perfect first example.

对。

Yeah.

有时候，当你有客户或者有人来找你，而他们的上升宫主星落在第三宫时，你就得问这个问题。

And that's sometimes that's what you have to ask sometimes if you have a client or you have somebody come in and they have the ruler of the Ascendant in the third.

你第一个问题通常是：兄弟姐妹或亲属这个话题在你的生活中是否以某种重要方式存在？

One of your first questions is are siblings or the topic of relatives somehow important to you in some significant way in your life?

这就像如果玛格丽特公主匿名走进你的办公室，而你不知道她是谁，你问了这个问题，她会说：是的，确实如此。

And it's like if Princess Margaret walked into your office anonymously and you didn't know who she was and you said that, she would be like, Well, yes.

是的，他们很重要。

Yes, they are.

没错。

Right.

真有趣，你提到这一点，因为我的兄弟姐妹是女王。

It's funny you mentioned that because my sibling is the queen.

完全正确。

Totally.

是的。

Yeah.

而且我认为这是一个重要的例证，因为第三宫本身并不是一个角宫。

And I think it's, you know, it's an important illustration because the third house by itself, it's not an angular house.

否则它并不会特别突出。

It doesn't otherwise stand out.

所以，让这些话题变得更重要或更突出的方式包括：上升点守护星落在那里，将这些话题推到前台；或者命盘 sect 的因素，比如太阳或月亮落在那里，等等。

So the ways it can stand out, or the ways those topics can become more important or more prominent in someone's life, are things like the Ascendant ruler placed there, and bringing those topics to the forefront, or the sect play, like the sun or moon being placed in there, or, you know, so forth.

有各种不同的因素可以导致这种情况。

There's different factors that can do that.

而对于那些没有这些主要因素的人而言，第三宫的事情，就那样吧。

Whereas for people who don't have any of those major things going on, it's like, third house stuff, whatever.

我有兄弟姐妹。

I have siblings.

是的。

Yeah.

但这并不是什么大事。

But it's not a big deal.

你知道的？

You know?

所以这就是为什么这些因素会在某人的生活中变得更重要的区别所在。

And so that's that's part of the distinction there of like, why and how that become can become more important in someone's life.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

好的。

Alright.

那我们继续看下一个例子，也就是沃尔特·迪士尼的出生图。

So let's move on to my next example, which is the birth chart of Walt Disney.

每个人都知道沃尔特·迪士尼是谁。

So everybody knows who Walt Disney is.

他是迪士尼公司和动画工作室的创始人，如今这个公司依然制作着我们几乎每个人从小到大都看过的那些主要动画电影。

He was the founder of Disney, the animation company and animation studio, which today still makes all of those, like, major animated features that we all sort of grew up watching pretty much everyone around the world at this point.

关于他的上升宫主星位于第三宫（沟通），而第三宫主星火星又位于第五宫（子女），这其中有一些有趣的地方。

And there's some interesting things just about his ruler of the Ascendant being in the third house of communication, and then the ruler of his third house of communication is Mars, which is placed in the fifth house of children.

他创建了整个动画工作室，专注于讲故事，尤其是为儿童重述经典童话。

And the fact that he created this entire animation studio that was really into storytelling and especially retailing old fairy tales for children.

因此，他上升行星和第三宫主宰的例证部分在于，他通过动画开创了一种新的沟通媒介。

So essentially, part of his example with the ruler of the Ascendant and the third is that he helped pioneer a new medium of communication through animation.

然而，如今人们不太了解的是，他其实有一位在生命中极为重要的兄弟，名叫罗伊·O。

However, not well known these days, he actually had a brother that was very important in his life whose name was Roy O.

迪斯尼。

Disney.

罗伊是迪士尼公司创立和成功的关键人物，担任联合创始人兼首任首席执行官。

And Roy was a crucial figure in the creation and success of the Disney company where he served as its co founder and first CEO.

他主要负责公司的商业和财务方面，而沃尔特·迪斯尼则专注于创意部分。

And he was basically responsible for much of the business and financial side of the company while Walt Disney focused on the creative aspects of it.

他们实际上就像一对兄弟搭档，共同打造了这个帝国。

So they were really like a brother duo basically that were working together to create this empire.

对。

Right.

这很有趣，因为你可以把绘画和讲故事看作是第三宫，也就是上升宫主星落在那里。

Which is funny because you could see like the drawing aspect and the creating stories as the third house which is the Ascendant ruler being placed there.

但第三宫主星落在第五宫，就像火星在摩羯座。

But then the ruler of the third being in the fifth is like Mars in Capricorn.

火星在摩羯座得势，对吧？

Mars exalted in Capricorn, right?

这非常像一家公司的首席执行官。

Which is very much like a CEO of a company.

是的。

Yeah.

完全正确。

Totally.

所以没错。

So right.

兄弟担任首席执行官。

The brother being the CEO.

兄弟是这宫位的守护星。

The brother is the ruler of the house.

对。

Right.

不过还有些有趣又有点奇怪的事实是，这张星盘的主人华特·迪士尼实际上对火车特别着迷。

So other interesting facts though that are kind of funny is that Walt Disney, the owner of the chart, actually had a thing for trains.

火车这个元素反复出现。

Trains come up all over the time.

他几乎可以说是痴迷于火车。

He's almost kind of obsessed with trains.

而帕特里克·沃森正是向我指出这一点的人，我在研究时发现这居然是真的，挺有意思的。

And Patrick Watson actually was the one that pointed this out to me, it was funny researching it and finding out that that is actually true.

此外，迪士尼非常热衷于打造社区和邻里环境，而迪士尼世界最初的设计理念正是如此。

Additionally, Disney really liked creating communities and neighborhoods, and that's essentially what Disney World was originally supposed to be.

如果你去YouTube上搜索迪士尼世界的原始规划，会找到一些非常有趣的视频，展示他最初的构想远比现在更宏大。

And if you go on YouTube and look up, like, original plans for Disney World, you'll find some really interesting videos about his original plans were far broader.

最后他们不得不把项目规模缩小了一些。

They eventually had to scale it back a bit.

但即便是如今迪士尼世界的呈现效果，你也能从中发现它划分了各有特色的主题区域，比如未来感的Epcot园区、奇幻主题的园区，还有其他各类主题区。

But even what it is now, you can see how it has all these specialized areas that have different themes and stuff like that, including a futuristic area which is Epcot or a fantasy area or what have you.

不过他当初还想打造更多这类区域，他也一直致力于构建理想化的社区和城市。

But he wanted to do more of that, but he was also interested in creating these idealized communities and cities.

这就是他的上升星落第三宫的星盘配置所体现出的又一个有趣的印证。

That's another interesting way that his ruler of the Ascendant in the third house placement manifested.

对。

Mhmm.

而且当上升点守护星落在这里的时候，这点尤其有意思，不过它也可能出现在其他和第三宫有关的星盘配置里。

And it's interesting when you have the Ascendant ruler there especially, although it can happen with other third house factors too.

这意味着在这个人的人生里，和第三宫相关的重要议题可能不止一个。

It's like there can be more than one third house topic that's important in the person's life.

而刚刚我们提到的就足足有三个这类议题了。

And that's like three of them right there.

是的

Yeah.

比如交通方式，像火车和社区，还有叙事的动画。

Like mode of transportation with the trains and neighborhoods, and then animation of storytelling.

是的

Yeah.

还有沟通和写作。

And communication and writing.

嗯

Mhmm.

所以当你询问客户时，如果你看到他们星盘中有一个重要行星落在那里，你就得问问兄弟姐妹、沟通或短途旅行是否在某种程度上对他们很重要，这也是原因之一。

So it's one of the reasons why when you're asking a client, you kind of have to ask about a few of the key significations if you see an important planet in their chart there of siblings, is communication or short distance travel significant to you in some way?

嗯

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

因为如果不是其中一个，也一定会是其他的。

Because if it's not one, it'll still be one of the others.

我们只需要到达那里。

We just have to get there.

对。

Right.

嗯，有时候关于迪士尼，我一直知道他的上升星座的守护星在第三宫，以为这只是他投身动画的原因，但我不知道他有一位在他生命中极其重要兄弟。

Well, sometimes with Disney, I always knew about his ruler of the Ascendant the third and thought that was just his getting into animation and doing that, but I didn't know that he had this brother that was huge in his life.

所以，在研究星盘案例时，真的值得去查一查他们是否有第三宫的行星配置，问问他们是否有一个重要的兄弟姐妹。

So with some of these, when you're researching chart examples, it really pays to search and see if they have third house placements, asking like Did they have an important sibling?

而且很多时候你会发现，答案是肯定的。

And oftentimes you'll find that the answer is yes.

全部

All

对。

right.

所以这些是我的初步例子。

So those are my initial examples.

其他具有显著第三宫位置的当代人物例子，比如洛根·保罗和杰克·保罗，两人都有显著的第三宫位置。

Other contemporary examples of people that have prominent third house placements, Logan Paul and Jake Paul actually both have prominent third house placements.

洛根是摩羯座上升，土星位于代表兄弟姐妹的第三宫；而杰克是金牛座上升，月亮主宰第三宫但位于第一宫。

So Logan has Capricorn rising with Saturn in the third house of siblings, while Jake has Taurus rising with the moon ruling the third house of siblings placed in the first house.

他们俩都在社交媒体上互相促进了对方的成功。

So they both contributed to each other's success on social media.

洛根作为上升宫的主宰星，第三宫也拥有一个主要的播客，看起来更像是更懂社交媒体的人，尽管他由于做一些有争议的事情而周期性地被封杀，因为上升宫的主宰星是土星，而且这是夜盘。

And Logan, who has the ruler of the Ascendant, the third house also has a major podcast and seems like the more sort of savvy social media person, although he periodically gets himself canceled by doing controversial things since the ruler of the Ascendant is Saturn and it's a night chart.

所以土星是与星盘分段相悖的凶星。

So Saturn is the malefic that's contrary to the sect.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

所以有时候麻烦其实是自己找的，根源就在你自己做的某些事里。

So sometimes the trouble is coming from yourself, like something you're doing.

没错。

Right.

有时候就像我们会看到的，凶手藏在房子里，或者说电话是从屋里打出来的，问题其实出在内部。

Sometimes as we'll see, it's like the killer is inside the house or the call is coming from inside the house.

对。

Yeah.

给正在看视频版的各位快速简单展示一下他的星盘。

There's his chart really quickly just very briefly for those watching the video version.

嗯。

Mhmm.

好的。

Alright.

再举个例子，埃迪·范·海伦的星盘中，上升守护星金星落在射手座的第三宫，而他正是和自己的兄弟一同创立了范·海伦乐队，这件事广为人知。

So other examples, Eddie Van Halen had Venus in Sagittarius as the Ascendant Lord in the third house, and he famously started the band Van Halen with his brother.

不错。

Nice.

要特别感谢Orla提供了这个例子，还有Logan Paul的那个案例，也是他找出来的。

So shout out to Orla for this one, and I think the last one with with Logan Paul as well for finding those two.

我觉得这太精彩了。

I thought that was brilliant.

另一个我想顺便提一下的是，演员阿米·哈默出生时上升星座是双子座，水星和狮子座位于第三宫整宫制中。

Another one I wanted to mention in passing is the actor Army Hammer was born with Gemini rising and Mercury and Leo in the third whole sign house.

他因在大卫·芬奇执导的关于Facebook的电影《社交网络》中饰演温克沃斯双胞胎而广为人知，这部电影于2010年左右上映并获得了众多奖项。

And he famously played the Winklevoss twins in David Fincher's movie on Facebook that was called The Social Network that won so many awards around like 2010 or so when it came out.

这很有趣，因为这正是他事业的突破性角色，让他获得了大量关注——而他一个人扮演了双胞胎两个角色。

So this is interesting because that was actually a breakout role for him that garnered him a lot of recognition where it was just one guy playing two twins.

因此，兄弟姐妹这个概念有时是字面意义上的，但对演员或创意型人士来说，往往在人生某个关键节点，他们会在创作上体现星盘中所暗示的某种特质。

And so sometimes the idea of siblings can be literal and other times, especially frequently with actors or creative types, sometimes what's in the chart they end up embodying at some critical point in their life creatively in some way.

嗯。

Mhmm.

因为占星本身并不在意这是虚构的还是真实的，只要你在生活中真正运用它。

Because the astrology itself doesn't care whether it's fictional or real if you're actually doing something in your life with it.

它依然重要。

Like, it still matters.

没错。

Right.

正是如此。

Exactly.

这是阿姆·哈默的星盘。

So there's army hammer's chart.

这是范·海伦的星盘。

There's Van Halen's chart.

我们可以看到，这两个人的上升宫主星都落在了第三宫。

We can see the ruler of the Ascendant is in the third house in both of those.

嗯。

Mhmm.

继续来看一个更近期的例子，我觉得值得简要提一下：赞达亚出生时上升星座是水瓶座，土星位于白羊座的第三宫。

Moving on, a more recent example is that's interesting that I want to mention briefly is Zendaya is was born with Aquarius rising and Saturn in Aries in the third house.

让我把她的星盘放出来。

So let me put her chart up.

就是这个。

There it is.

这是赞达亚的星盘，上升星座的守护星位于第三宫。

There's Zendaya's chart with the rule of the Ascendant in the third house.

赞达亚如今以演员和歌手身份广为人知，她是一位极具多才多艺和天赋的表演者，在表演、歌唱和舞蹈领域都取得了成功。

And Zendaya, of course, at this point is is famous as an actress as well as a singer, And she's a really versatile and talented performer who's achieved success in acting, singing, dancing.

她还是史上最年轻的两次获得艾美奖的演员，年仅26岁就达成了这一成就。

She's also the youngest two time Emmy award winning actor achieving this at the age of 26.

实际上，第三宫（沟通）的守护星位于第六宫（疾病），这有些有趣。

And there's actually some interesting things in terms of like the ruler of the third house of communications is in the sixth house of illness.

她两次获得艾美奖都是因为出演了剧集《亢奋》中的角色露·贝内特，这个角色深受药物和酒精成瘾的困扰，是剧情的核心。

And she actually got her two Emmys for playing the character Rue Bennett in the show Euphoria, who was a character that really struggled with drug and alcohol addiction that really central to that character.

但关于赞达亚的其他有趣之处是，她的父母都曾是教师。

But other interesting things about Zendaya is that both of her parents were actually school teachers.

我认为她妈妈现在可能还是老师，而她爸爸则成了她的经纪人，但他们最初都是教师。

I think her mom is actually still a teacher and her dad has become her manager, but they both started out as school teachers.

所以我们又回到了第三宫这个话题。

So we have that third house topic coming up.

赞达亚另一个主要的特别之处在于，她有五个同父异母或同母异父的哥哥姐姐，还有好几个侄子和侄女。

The other though main reason that Zendaya is interesting is that she actually has five older half siblings as well as several nieces and several nephews.

她曾几次提到过他们。

And she's mentioned them a few times.

她在采访中提到过他们。

She mentions them in interviews.

所以我有几段引述。

So I have a few quotes.

其中一段说：我有五个哥哥姐姐。

So one of them it said, I have five older siblings.

我是最小的。

I'm the youngest.

所以我能从他们身上学习和成长。

So I got to learn and grow through them.

我有很多可以仰望的人。

I had a lot of people to look up to.

关于她姐姐的影响，她说：我仰慕我的姐姐，意识到她对我的影响，让我成为更好的人。

On the influence of her older sister, she said, I look up to my big sister and realize the influence she's had on me and making me a better person.

在其他地方，谈到她的大家庭时，她说：拥有这样一个踏实庞大的家庭，我随着年龄增长越来越意识到这有多重要。

Elsewhere, talking about her large family, she says having such a big grounded family, I realized as you get older how important that is.

最后，谈到自己作为姑姑，有很多侄子侄女时，她说：‘我有很多很多小侄子侄女，他们就像是我借来的孩子。’

And then finally on being an aunt with many nieces and nephews, she said, quote, I have many, many little nieces and nephews, so they're like my borrowed children.

我可以和他们玩得开心，然后再把他们还给他们的父母。

I get to have fun and then give them back to their parents.

真好。

Nice.

所以，你知道，和一些其他情况相比，这并不是什么开创性的东西，但我只是觉得这很有趣，因为有时候我想指出的是，当一个重要计划落在第三宫时，它确实可能表明兄弟姐妹在某种程度上对你的生活有更大的影响，同时叔伯姑姨、堂表兄弟姐妹、侄子侄女也可能会对你更重要。

So, you know, it's not like groundbreaking stuff compared to some of the other ones, but I just thought that was interesting because sometimes I want to point out is just when an important plan is placed in the third, it can really indicate that siblings play a more important role in your life in some way in influencing you, as well as that aunts, uncles, cousins, nephews, and nieces can also then be more important to you as well.

或者在她的情况中，她有很多同父异母或同母异父的兄弟姐妹，以及很多侄子侄女。

Or in his her case, she just has like a lot of half siblings and a lot of nieces and nephews.

嗯。

Mhmm.

当然。

For sure.

而且你知道，即使那里是上升宫的守护星，也不一定意味着是事业相关的事情，对吧？

And you know, even if it's the Ascendant ruler there, it doesn't have to be a career thing, right?

事业更多是第十宫的事情。

The career's more the tenth house.

而且你知道，第三宫紧邻代表家庭的第四宫，并且位于星盘底部的角宫三合中，正如你之前提到的，更体现一种根基感。

And you know, the third house being right next to the fourth house of home, and being in that angular triad at the bottom of the chart, sort of more rootedness, as you were talking about earlier.

它意味着你来自哪里，或者你成长环境中周围的人，你的大家庭，对某些人来说，可能比对其他人更重要。

It's like where you come from or the people the people around where you came from or your extended family can just literally be more important to some people than others.

对吧？

Right?

而且这不一定是件公开的事情。

And it doesn't have to be something that's like a public thing.

只是对他们来说更重要。

It's just it's more important to them.

这就像星盘的一部分。

It's like a part of the chart.

是的，没错。

Yeah, exactly.

对。

Yeah.

而且她还很年轻，未来她如何成长并展现星盘中上升星座的第三宫主宰星，将会很有趣。

And she's also still very young, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out in the future and other ways that she grows into and manifests that third house ruler of the Ascendant placement in her chart throughout the course of her life.

对。

Right.

那里可能还会更多。

Which there probably will be more.

是的，毫无疑问。

Yeah, undoubtedly.

好的。

All right.

那么我们继续看我的下一个例子。

So moving on to my next example.

我的下一个星盘例子是演员拉米·马雷克，他现在是一位著名演员，但几年前他因在传记电影《波西米亚狂想曲》中饰演弗雷迪·默丘里而广为人知，这部电影是基于这位歌手及其所属乐队皇后乐队的故事，他饰演了乐队的主唱。

My next chart example is the actor Rami Malek who is a famous actor at this point, but he really became known hugely a few years ago for He became best known for playing Freddie Mercury in the biopic Bohemian Rhapsody that came out that was based on the singer where he played the lead singer of that band Queen.

他确实凭借这个角色赢得了奥斯卡最佳男主角奖。

And he actually won an Academy Award for best actor for that role.

所以我想重点谈两点。

So there's a couple of two things I wanna focus on with this.

主要的一点是关于这个角色中的沟通，但另一点是，有趣的是，当我研究这个案例时，我们先聚焦在沟通部分，然后再介绍第二点。

The main thing relates to communication in that role, but then the other thing was you know, it's funny because as I was researching this actually, let's focus on the communication part first, and then I'll introduce the second part.

好的。

Alright.

他最广为人知的角色就是饰演佛莱迪·墨裘瑞。

So he's best known for playing Freddie Mercury.

他的星盘里有一点非常有意思：他的上升星座是巨蟹座，月亮落在处女座，与第三宫的天底（IC）合相。

One of the things that's really interesting in his chart is that it's Cancer rising, and the Moon is in Virgo conjunct the IC in the third house.

月亮的象征意涵在他身上体现得淋漓尽致，既涵盖了月亮代表的接纳力的寓意，也包含了月亮与身体相关的象征意义。

And the lunar significations really come through with him both in the receptive significations of the Moon, but also in the significations of the Moon having to do with the body.

因为我觉得用来形容这次演绎的一个绝佳关键词就是，拉米·马雷克在这个角色里完完全全融入了弗雷迪·墨丘利本身。

Because I think a great keyword for that portrayal is that he really embodied Freddie Mercury in that role.

我还查到了一件很有意思的事，就是两人的星盘合盘。

And one of the things that was interesting I looked up was their synastry.

结果发现拉米·马雷克的月亮落在处女座11度，刚好和弗雷迪·墨丘利同样落在处女座11度的太阳相合。

And it turned out that Rami Malek's moon is at 11 degrees of Virgo, and it's exactly conjunct Freddie Mercury's sun, which is also at 11 degrees of Virgo.

我当时觉得这实在太惊人了：在那部讲述这位早已离世的歌手的传记片里，饰演主角的演员，他的上升点守护星居然和他所扮演的这位歌手的太阳精准相合。

So I thought that was just stunning that the actor who played in the biopic of this, you know, singer who had died years earlier, that the ruler of his Ascendant was exactly conjunct the son of the guy that he was playing.

是的

Yeah.

我非常喜欢这一点。

I love that.

你经常可以看到，当演员扮演其他人时，会出现这种有趣的相位关系。

And you can often see that, like, interesting synastry with, actors who are playing other people.

是的

Yeah.

但这一次特别吻合。

But that one was really close.

更进一步的是，真正有趣的是时间点，因为我发现当他 audition 这个角色时，发生了一次日食，位于天秤座9度，非常接近拉米·马雷克的月亮和弗雷迪·默丘里的太阳。

And further, what was really interesting was actually the timing of that because I found that when he was auditioning for the role, there was a solar eclipse at nine degrees of Virgo that was very close to Rami Malek's Moon and Freddie Mercury's Sun.

所以，不仅有相位上的契合，还出现了某种时间上的巧合，表明了他接下这个角色、化身弗雷迪·默丘里的确切时机。

So there was additionally it wasn't just the synastry, but then there was something that came along that showed the actual timing of when he took on this role to embody Freddie Mercury.

嗯

Mhmm.

此后，他进行了身体上的转变，必须佩戴假牙来模仿弗雷迪·默丘里独特而特殊的牙齿结构。

And then subsequent to that, he did this physical transformation where he had to use fake teeth in order to sort of imitate Freddie Mercury's like dent like very unique dental structure.

但不仅如此，这不仅仅是表演。

But also it wasn't just acting.

他还需要唱歌。

He also had to sing.

因此，他聘请了口音教练和形体教练，以掌握嗓音和演唱——这也属于第三宫的范畴，甚至通过观看数百小时的录像，仔细模仿他的动作，力求精准还原他的肢体语言。

So he worked with a dialect coach and a movement coach in order to get both the voice down and the singing, which is also a third house thing, but also even to imitate his movements by watching, like, hundreds of hours of video of him and really trying to get get his movements down.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

唱歌和口音部分确实是第三宫所代表的沟通层面。

And the singing and the dialect pieces are definitely like the communicative pieces of the third house.

但动作部分则真正体现了月亮的能量，比如身体在空间中的移动与灵活性。

But then the movement, you really get the Moon part, like the mobility, like how you're moving your body through space.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

这是最早的例子之一。

And this is one of the first examples.

这个例子，还有另一个让我意识到运动和姿态是第三宫中许多其他事物所衍生的关键原型和深层象征。

This and another example that really started keying me into that movement and motion are really key archetypes and underlying significations that a lot of other things are derived from when it comes to the third house.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Right.

因此，他因这个角色赢得了奥斯卡最佳男主角奖。

So he won an Academy Award as best actor for the role.

这是有史以来票房最高的音乐传记片。

It's the highest grossing musical biographical film of all time.

他是第一位获得奥斯卡最佳男主角奖的埃及裔演员。

And he's the first actor of Egyptian heritage to win the Academy Award for best actor.

所以这里很有趣，因为当我搜索谁的上升宫主星落在第三宫时，他总是会出现。

So this is where it's interesting because he kept coming up when I was searching for, like, the who has the ruler of the Ascendant in the third house.

他有时会出现。

He would sometimes come up.

但我知道他演过那个角色，却不确定这个故事会有多打动人心，或者它在我的研究中会处于什么位置。

But, like, I knew he'd done that role, but I didn't know if his how compelling the story would be or where that would fall in terms of my research.

但就在一周或两周前，我在研究著名的双胞胎时，谷歌搜索结果的顶部出现了他的脸。

But then I was researching a week or two ago famous twins, and at the top of the Google results, his face came up.

我当时想：天啊。

And I'm like, Oh my God.

结果发现，他确实有一个双胞胎兄弟，名叫萨米，比他晚出生四分钟。

And it turns out he actually was born with his identical twin brother named Sammy who was born four minutes later.

所以这不仅仅是拉米·马雷克的上升宫主星落在第三宫，擅长沟通和演绎角色，更惊人的是，他还有一个对他而言非常重要的双胞胎兄弟。

So it's not just that Rami Malek has the ruler of the Ascendant to the third, and he's good at communicating and embodying roles, but it turns out he also has a twin brother who's also very important to him.

有趣的是，他的双胞胎兄弟长大后也成为了一名高中英语老师，同时还教授英语作为第二语言或外语。

And interestingly, his twin brother grew up and became a high school English teacher as well as somebody that teaches English as a second or foreign language.

所以，他那位星盘非常相似的兄弟，也体现了上升星座守护星位于第三宫的特质。

So his brother who has a very similar chart also embodied the ruler of the Ascendant in the third house placement.

没错。

Right.

以两种不同的方式。

In two different ways.

这在语言和早期教育方面真的很有趣。

That's really interesting in terms of languages and then in terms of early schooling.

是的，正是如此。

Yeah, exactly.

拉米经常参加他兄弟的颁奖典礼，或者他兄弟也会出席他的颁奖典礼，他们曾公开表达过对彼此的钦佩。

Rami frequently attends his brother's award shows or his brother attends his award shows, and they've spoken publicly about their admiration.

他曾经公开谈论过对兄弟投身教育事业的敬佩之情。

He's spoken publicly about his admiration for his brother's dedication to teaching.

而且他们还有些趣事，比如年轻的时候会互换身份去发表演讲之类的。

And they have some funny stories about switching places to give a speech when they were younger and things like that.

不过关于拉米·马雷克，最后还有一件很有意思的事：他出生前不久，父母才从埃及移民到了美国。

But the last thing that was really interesting about Rami Malek is his parents immigrated to The US from Egypt not too long before he was born.

所以他四岁之前在家都是说埃及阿拉伯语的。

And so he spoke Egyptian Arabic at home until the age of four.

也就是说他其实是双语使用者，这一点还挺有意思的，因为他的星盘中月亮落在变动星座。

So that made him actually bilingual, which is kind of interesting because the Moon is in a mutable sign.

但早年的时候，他很难融入当地环境，因为文化差异，在童年的大部分时间里，别人总是念错他的名字。

But early on, he found it difficult to assimilate because of cultural differences where people especially would mispronounce his name for most of his childhood.

这件事一直让他特别苦恼。

And this is something that really bothered him.

他曾在一次采访中提到，直到上高中时，他才终于鼓起勇气，开始告诉大家他名字的正确读法。

He said in an interview once that it wasn't until high school where he finally worked up the courage to start telling people how to pronounce his name correctly.

所以我觉得这完全是第一宫特质的体现：上升点的守护星落入第一宫，而第一宫代表的就是个人身份。

So I thought that was such a first house thing to have the ruler of the Ascendant in the first house and the first house represents your identity.

但被人误读名字是一种非常鲜明的体现。

But to struggle with people mispronouncing your name is a very striking manifestation of that.

没错。

Right.

尤其是这一点在他童年或早期求学阶段如此突出，这再次呼应了上升行星落入第三宫的情况。

And especially that that was a focus for him in his early childhood years or in his early schooling years, which would, you know, just again echo the Ascendant ruler being in the third.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

因此，他表示，由于这种情况，他在童年时期难以形成自我认同，于是倾向于扮演角色、模仿声音，以此寻找释放精力的出口。

So he said as a result of that, it was difficult for him to form a self identity as a child, and he gravitated towards quote, creating characters and doing voices as he searched for an outlet for his energy.

这实际上与一些其他人物非常相似，比如我们稍后会看到的吉姆·凯瑞，他们的上升行星和第三宫也有类似关联，他们小时候也经常模仿各种声音，最终以此为业。

And this is actually very similar to some other figures that have the ruler of the Ascendant and the third house like Jim Carrey as we'll see later who grew up sort of like doing different voices and then eventually made a career out of that.

最后一点，他想成为一名律师，因此在高中时加入了辩论队。

And finally, the last thing, he wanted to be a lawyer, so he joined the debate team in high school.

但他的辩论老师说他并不擅长，却认为他在表演戏剧角色方面非常出色。

But his debate teacher said he wasn't any good, but they said he was really good acting dramatic roles.

所以他的高中辩论老师注意到他在戏剧方面的天赋，建议他尝试表演。

So his debate teacher in high school, noting his talent for drama, suggested that he try acting.

而他正是通过一位名叫朱迪·韦尔登的、他称之为杰出的戏剧老师，开始了他的表演生涯。

And that's actually how he got his start acting through who he said was a quote unquote brilliant drama teacher named Judy Weldon.

于是他和他哥哥都参与了学校的戏剧部门。

And so both him and his brother became involved in the school's drama department.

这很酷。

That's cool.

是的。

Yeah.

你有时能在星盘的不同地方或方式中看到表演的体现，但有趣的是，火星——如果我没记错的话，我现在没看到星盘。

And you can sometimes see acting come up in different places or ways in the chart, but it's interesting that Mars, if I'm remembering, I don't have the chart up.

但火星，我想是第五宫的守护星，对吧？

But Mars, I think, is the ruler of the fifth, right?

还有那个。

As well as the Yeah.

月亮正通过三分相密切合相火星。

The moon is closely applying by Trine to that Mars.

所以有趣的是，第三宫的辩论经历将他引向了第五宫和第十宫的主宰星，而第三宫的主宰星又与第五宫和第十宫的主宰星形成关联。

So it's interesting that the third house initial debate experience led him to the fifth house and tenth house ruler, which was a center ruler in the third and then applying to the ruler in the fifth and tenth.

是的。

Yeah.

当然。

For sure.

所以，无论如何，这就是我的例子，显示了兄弟姐妹、沟通和高中经历对他人生的重要性，正如我们所见。

So anyway, that is my example where it's both siblings, communication, and high school are very important for him in his life as we can see.

嗯。

Mhmm.

好的。

Alright.