第一部分：与罗布·马赫尼和沃斯尼·兰布雷探讨NBA交易截止日反应

然后比尔在主场比赛中遭到嘘声，所以我会把他们排第二，萨克拉门托排第三。

And then Beal is getting heckled at home games, so I would have them second, and Sacramento third.

你那边是怎么排的？你的顺序是？

What do you have, what's your order for

我排的前几名和你差不多，我想说一下，不是因为我希望这样，而是因为我担心这种情况可能发生。

I the top would say about the same, I wanna put this out there, not because I want it to happen, but because I fear it could happen.

如果达拉斯小牛队没能进入季后赛，作为达拉斯的儿子，我希望还能有家可回，但我担心这座城市会被彻底摧毁，是的。

If the Dallas Mavericks do not make the playoffs, as a son of Dallas, I would like to be able to go home again, and I fear that the city would be razed Yeah.

到他妈的

To the fucking

所以达拉斯是负110，金州是正126，说实话，我会押金州能进季后赛，而不是达拉斯。

So Dallas is minus one ten, and Golden State is plus one twenty six, and I gotta be honest, I would bet on Golden State to make the playoffs over Dallas.

我觉得达拉斯这事可能会搞砸。

I think this Dallas thing could go bad.

我们还没经历凯里连续三周的伤病。

We haven't had the three week Kyrie injury.

我不信任AD的健康状况。

I don't trust AD's health.

这支球队很奇怪。

The team's weird.

虽然有三巨头的传闻，但克莱才是三巨头之一。

There's big three stuff going on, but Clay's in the big three.

感觉我们已经完了。

It's like, we're done.

2020年时克莱是三巨头之一，但现在他已经不在了。

Twenty twenty's Clay in the big three is out.

而且球迷群体非常愤怒，

And also the fan base is so angry,

情绪如此敌对，氛围如此糟糕，我真觉得球队可能会彻底崩盘。

and so hostile, and the vibes are just so brutal that I could see it tail spinning.

我真的觉得会这样。

I really could.

我认为这个理论是用AD来替代卢卡的产出，或者说是他不在场时的产出不足，因为AD几乎整个赛季都打出了全明星首发级别的表现，让你变成一支防守巨兽。

I think the theory that you replace Luca's production, or lack of production because he's not on the floor, with AD, who's like, you know, played at an all star starter level damn near the whole year, and you become this defensive juggernaut.

我认为这个理论在常规赛中是站得住脚的。

I think the theory is soundness, specifically in the regular season.

如果他们在常规赛中就是一支非常强硬、靠防守硬扛比赛的球队的话。

If they're just like, you know, a really hard nose, like, we grind out games defensively, team in the regular season.

这一点，我

That, I

但我不认为这在季后赛中也成立。

don't buy it as a playoff.

他们

They

确实选了更优秀的马丁兄弟。

did just the better Martin brother.

是的。

Yeah.

知道吗？

Know?

他们赢了，靠的是马丁。

They They won paid

和马丁一起。

with Martin.

不幸的是，波士顿队不在这个分区打球，所以我也不知道凯莱布·马丁能有多强。

Unfortunately, Boston doesn't play in this conference, so I don't know how good Caleb Martin can be.

我只是觉得

I just think

这不是他们需要的方式。

Not what they needed, the way.

我只是觉得，一个有动力的吉米其实很符合金州的需求——一个能持球进攻、不是斯蒂芬·库里的人，还能防守，即使他已远不如从前。

I just think a motivated Jimmy actually fitting a Golden State need, meaning somebody who can do something off the dribble, that isn't Steph Curry, and you know, can play defense, even though he's not what he used to be at all.

他过去是个顶级防守者，现在不是了，但他依然远超及格线。

He used to be an ace defender, he's not that, but he's way more than competent.

还有激励因素，我觉得吉米的‘F U’因子会达到非常高的水平。

And just the motivational factor, I think the F U Jimmy factor is gonna be at a very high level.

你知道的，德雷蒙德是个超级好胜的人，我理解为什么赔率会这样。

And you know, Draymond, super competitive guy, I understand why the odds are such.

金州勇士25胜24负，达拉斯26胜24负，我猜你得赢下大约46场才行——这不仅仅是成为六支季后赛球队之一，你还想排在第七或第八名。

Golden State twenty five and twenty four, Dallas twenty six and twenty four, and my guess is, you gotta get to maybe 46 wins to be It's not just about being one of the six playoff teams, but you wanna be seven or eight.

你不想被迫连续赢下两个客场。

You don't wanna have to win the two road games in a row.

我想聊聊吉米的‘F U’因子。

I wanna talk about the Jimmy FU factor.

我们先暂停一下，来做这个播客。

We're gonna take a break for the podcast.

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看看周五的赛程，我觉得你可以跟上SGA的节奏。

Just looking at the Friday slate, I don't know, you could ride the SGA train.

他动不动就砍下50分。

He's dropping 50 points left and right.

他要对阵多伦多。

He's playing Toronto.

他们根本防不住任何人。

They can't guard anybody.

你可以选凯德·坎宁安对费城，也可以选字母哥对亚特兰大，我挺看好后者。

You could do Cade Cunningham against Philly, you could do Giannis against Atlanta, I like that one.

有不少不错的选择。

There's some good ones.

等到了周五我会发推公布我的选择，但如果你也想跟这些选项或者自己选的话。

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所以，我之前也说过，我对此有非常强烈的看法。

So, and I've said this before, and I feel really strongly about it.

我认为这笔交易对金州勇士来说非常划算。

I actually thought that was a great trade for Golden State.

我觉得他们并没有真正放弃什么。

I don't think they gave up really anything.

我知道他们很喜欢安德鲁·威金斯，但从本质上讲，这是一笔NBA的二换二交易，你只是在钻系统空子，本质上就是把威金斯换成了巴特勒。

I know they loved Andrew Wiggins, but just fundamentally it was an NBA two ks trade where you're just cheating the system, and you're basically just turning Wiggins into Butler.

把库明加排除在外，

Keeping a Kuminga out of this thing,

库明加太棒了，那个受保护的选秀权什么的。

Keeping a I'm Kuminga is amazing, the protected pick, whatever.

对我来说，关键在于，如果你在想，巴特勒现在还行吗？

The key to me would be if you're looking at it going, Is Butler still good?

他还能成为那样的球员吗？

Can he still be that guy?

因为去年我们没看到。

Because we didn't see it last year.

你知道，他一直缺阵，错过了季后赛，今年的表现也时好时坏。

You know, he kept missing games, missed the playoffs, this year was spotty.

我觉得我以前在播客里提过，但大约五六周前，他在底特律打了一场特别出色的比赛。

And I think I talked about this before in the pod, but like five, six weeks ago, he had a game in Detroit when he was just awesome.

是的。

Yeah.

那场比赛你回看就能明白，上League Pass看一眼就够了。

And that was, you can go back, you can watch it on League Pass, that's all you need to see.

这可不是那种‘吉米投进几个三分，表现不错’的比赛。

This was not one of those, Oh, Jimmy made some threes and had a good game.

他简直太炸了，他很生气，我觉得他是对迈阿密不满。

Like he was fucking awesome, he was pissed off, I think he was mad at Miami.

我觉得这简直就是他的交易价值试镜录像，他在那场比赛里彻底爆发了。

I think this was his trade value audition tape, and he just ran amok in this game.

我觉得他在金州也会这么做。

And I just think that's what he's gonna do in Golden State.

我不知道这种状态能持续两个月吗。

I don't know if it's gonna last two months.

我不知道能不能持续两年两个月。

I don't know if it's going to last a year and two months.

我觉得两年后，他们可能会陷入灾难，那时候他们会想：天啊，我们有德雷蒙德和这个家伙，这到底是什么情况？

I think two years from now it could be a catastrophe for them, where they're just like, Oh my God, we have Draymond and this guy, what the hell?

但短期内，趁着库里的时间窗口，你必须这么做。

But short term, with Curry's window, you got to do it.

关于这笔交易，我有两点特别喜欢。

Two, couple things that I love about the deal.

第一，它尊重了斯蒂芬时代的尾声。

One, it pays deference to the end of the Steph era.

吉米的合同基本上和斯蒂芬的合同是同步的。

So Jimmy's deal basically coincides with, you know, Steph's deal.

是的。

Mhmm.

第二，吉米·巴特勒是个疯子。

Two, Jimmy Butler is a maniac.

他会非常有动力。

He's going to be extremely motivated.

而且他比安德鲁强得多，你可以怎么说都行。

And he's an upgrade to what Andrew you can say whatever you want.

他显然是对安德鲁·维金斯的一种明显提升，维金斯有时候表现好，有时候又不稳定，总之就是那样。

He is a clear talent upgrade to Andrew Wiggins sort of sometimes here, sometimes there, whatever.

第三，我喜欢这一点：它澄清了关于库明加的传闻，因为对于这些年轻球员，我们经常看到这种情况。

And then third, I like that it just clarifies the comminga stuff, because with these young guys, we see it all the time.

当他们整个赛季都卷入交易流言时，情况就变得很模糊，但现在一切都清楚了。

When they're in these trade rumors for an entire season, it's like, all right, that's now been clarified.

你将会留在这儿，球队的阵容就是这样，咱们出发吧。

You're gonna be here, this is what the team looks like, let's go.

我对勇士队的这笔操作非常看好。

I'm really high on this for Golden State.

除非库明加在下一小时就被交易了。

Unless Kuminga's traded in the next hour.

他确实有可能被交易。

Which he might be.

但即使保留他，以便将来可能将他纳入另一笔交易，也非常重要。

But even preserving him to potentially include him in another deal is important.

我认为吉米和威金斯的比较，像安德鲁·威金斯这个赛季表现得相当不错，我并不是想贬低他，但吉米在创造机会方面完全是另一个层次，最重要的是，他是个可靠的终结得分点，正如我们之前讨论的，同时他还能作为斯蒂芬·库里无球进攻的重要发起点，而威金斯根本不太适应这种角色。

And I think the Jimmy Wiggins comp, like Andrew Wiggins has had a perfectly fine season, I don't mean to diminish it, but Jimmy is a totally different level of creator, and most importantly, he is a go to scorer, as we've discussed, but also a point trigger man for a lot of the Steph Curry off ball stuff, in a way that Wiggins is just not comfortable doing.

所以现在，除了德雷蒙德，还有帕斯卡尔（如果他担任这个角色）之外，又多了一个能胜任这项任务的人。

And so now you have another person who can do that, in addition to Draymond, in addition to Pajemski, if you have him in that role.

你有了一个真正能打出勇士队想要的进攻节奏的人。

Like, you have someone who can actually make some plays for the way Golden State wants to play.

是的，这在关键时刻很重要，但更重要的是，每四场比赛他都能在某一场中表现得极其出色。

Yeah, there's the crunch time piece, but there's also the every four games he's just gonna be awesome in a game.

目前这支勇士队，除非斯蒂芬表现神勇，你昨晚看他们对阵犹他队就知道了，他们可能一连五分钟完全打不开，然后突然就输掉比赛。

Right now this Warriors team, unless Steph is awesome, you saw it last night against Utah, they can just suck for five minutes, and all of a sudden blow a game.

他们已经输掉了很多本不该输的接近比赛。

They've blown a lot of uncharacteristically close games.

我说这话的时候敲敲木头，我真的很喜欢这些东西。

You know, I'm going to say this knocking on wood, I love stuff.

他正处于职业生涯的不同阶段。

He's at a different point of his career.

是的

Yeah.

他仍然能达到巅峰状态，但无法像以前那样稳定地做到。

He can still hit the heights, but he can't do it nearly as consistently.

他无法扛起一支球队。

He can't put a team on his back.

不，2022年总决赛时，斯蒂芬已经处于职业生涯的不同阶段了，事实就是如此。

No, it's not, twenty twenty two finals, Steph is not, he's at a different point of his career, he just is.

但我仍然认为他可以成为一支强队的出色拼图。

But I still think he could be a really great piece of a good team.

关于巴特勒，对我来说的问题是，我看到的他在底特律的那次表现，是每两周才出现一次的情况吗？

With Butler, the question for me is, that Detroit thing that he did that I saw, is that like a once every two weeks thing?

他能随时调动出那种状态吗？

Could he dial that up?

他能带领球队前进吗？

Could he carry them?

因为他们可能得靠他来扛起球队。

Because they're gonna kind of need to jump on his back.

当库明加回归后，如果他们留下他，现在他们有了替补得分点，但球队人数却变少了，我觉得这对他们来说也很奇怪。

And then when Kuminga comes back, if they keep him, and now they have some scoring off the bench, they have less guys in the team, which I think was a weird thing for them too.

他们之前有十二三个球员都需要上场，现在人数精简了。

They had like twelve, thirteen guys that needed to play now they've got the numbers down.

但我只是觉得，从本质上讲，这是一笔很棒的交易。

But I just thought fundamentally it was an awesome trade.

作为篮球迷，我仍然对这笔交易感觉不太好，但我只是觉得，我们之前有过这样的时刻：这位球员年薪5200万，明年还是5200万，而且这甚至不是他合同的最后一年。

I still don't feel great about it as a basketball fan, but I just think that's We just had these moments where this guy who's making 52, and then 52 next year, it's not even the final year of his deal.

他明年还有一项球员选项可以选择续约，但他已经决定：我不喜欢现在的处境了，我要把它搞砸。

He has a contract next year with a player option he can opt into, and he's just decided, I don't like my situation anymore, I'm gonna torpedo it.

我真的觉得，当下一个劳资协议到来时，他们该怎么解决这个问题呢？

I really feel like whenever the next CBA comes up, how do they figure out a wrinkle for this?

因为如果你是个热火队球迷，你肯定会想：刚才到底发生了什么？

Because if you're like a Miami fan, you're just gonna be like, What the fuck just happened?

我们只是把吉米·巴特勒换成了安德鲁·威金斯。

We just turned Jimmy Butler into Andrew Wiggins.

我的意思是，

I mean,

这就像你正在和一个愿意赴死的人玩胆小鬼游戏，你该怎么赢呢？

how do you It's like if you're playing a game of chicken against a guy who's willing to die, like, how do you win?

对吧？

Right?

我真的不知道。

Like, I just don't know.

不，这是因为多米尼克·托雷托

No, it's because Dom Toretto

还有所有速度相关的

and everything fast

你将会去的地方。

as you're gonna go.

直接冲着你来。

Going right at you.

他愿意这么做。

He's willing to do it.

那你怎么赢过这种人？

Like, do you win versus that?

而且，你知道，我个人不会像吉米那样去处理这件事。

And, you know, and again, I personally wouldn't have carried it the way Jimmy did.

他显然认为，这可能是他在NBA的最后一次重大收入机会。

The way he's obviously looking at it is like, this is literally his last payday ever in the NBA, major payday.

他觉得，我必须不惜一切代价确保赢得这场比赛。

And he's looking at it like, I have to do whatever I have to do to make sure I secure that win.

不幸的是，事情变得很难看。

And unfortunately it got ugly.

我能理解那种感觉——很糟糕。

And I can understand feeling Ugly.

它变得

It got

简直就像变得面目全非。

It was like, got disfiguring.

是的，情况很糟。

Yeah, it was bad.

那感觉就像香草、斯凯、汤姆·克鲁斯那种级别的脸，有点

It was something like vanilla Sky Tom Cruise face level It some

很酷的家伙。

cool guy.

我一直支持吉米·沃特，因为他表现得超出了预期。

And I've been carrying Jimmy Water just in the sense that he's overachieved.

他在迈阿密的表现远超球队签下他时的期望，也远超大家对他的预期。

He was an A plus player for Miami for what they did when they got him, what the expectation was and what he actually delivered.

而他却觉得：‘为什么你们不相信我会再次超越预期？我整个职业生涯不一直都是这样吗？’

And for him to feel like, yo, like why won't you place faith in me that I'm gonna over deliver again as I've done my entire tenure year?

他这么说：嘿，这简直是一记耳光

Him being like, Yo, this is a slap

是的，但当你接连缺席比赛时，这么说确实很难——我觉得这正是迈阿密的问题。

of Yeah, but that's a tough one to say though when you're just missing games left and right last Which I think was Miami's problem.

听着，首先你今年和明年都还在合同里，多打点比赛吧。

It's like, Dude, first of all, you're under contract for this year and next year, and play more.

但莱利又玩起了老一套。

But then Riley did the old guy thing.

那正是

That was

他一贯的做法。

what he does though.

他在勒布朗离开前两天对他这么干过，勒布朗对此很受伤。

He did it to LeBron, two days before LeBron left, and LeBron took it personally.

我其实挺喜欢他每次这么做的，但问题是：你真需要一个疯狂的老头来管理你的篮球球队吗？

I kind of love every time he does it, but the question is, do you need an old crazy guy running your basketball franchise?

因为他明显不在乎了，他根本不在乎了。

Because he clearly doesn't, he gives no shits anymore.

他确实如此，但每个明星离开迈阿密时都感到这样，这绝非巧合。

He does not, but it's also not a coincidence that every star leaves Miami kind of feeling like this.

是的。

Yeah.

你知道的。

You know?

到最后，总是搞得一团糟。

By the end, it's always ugly.

从来没有什么和平的权力交接。

There's no peaceful transitions of power.

就连哈桑·怀特塞德都说：我他妈的只希望结局能好一点。

Even Hassan Whiteside, he's like, I'm fucking, I just wish it ended better.

所以他们还得到了金州勇士队的首轮签，连续两年前10位保护，之后则无保护。

So they also got Gold States first, which is top 10 protected for two years in a row, then unprotected.

我不害怕，我在那支本垒打时仍有工作人员。

I'm not scared, I still have staff during that home run.

可怜的丹尼斯·施罗德。

Poor Dennis Schroeder.

这人能不能找个

Can the guy just find a

房子，可惜的是，由于当前的文化，人们才会做出这样的评论。

house Unfortunately, to live remarks about because current culture.

我最后一次查的时候，每个职业体育联盟都有交易。

Last time I checked, every professional sport has trades.

天哪，是的。

Oh my god, yeah.

但他被困在这个新角色里，受薪金上限影响：如果你的薪资超过1280万美元，任何超过一定上限的球队都不能为你买断合同。

But He's kinda stuck in this new role with the apron, where if you're over 12,800,000.0, nobody who's over a certain apron can buy you out.

我认为只要超过任何一层上限，无论是第一层还是第二层，你

I think it's if you're over any apron at all, first or second, you

在1280万美元这个级别上也无法签下他，因为有八支球队根本无法

can't sign by a 12,800,000.0 level too for like certain So there's like eight teams he just can't even

得到。基本上，如果他的合同略高于非税全额中产特例，就无法与任何超过工资帽的球队签约，所以买断

get Basically, bought out and go your contract is just over the non taxpayer full mid level, which his is like by a hair, like just barely, then you can't sign over any, sign with any apron team, it's a So buy

我有一件事没搞明白迈阿密的情况，因为实际上曾经有个可能性，他们只用威金斯、凯尔·安德森和施罗德就换来了他。

one thing I didn't get with Miami, because I actually, there was a world where they just get Wiggins, Kyle Anderson, and Schroeder for Yes.

感觉他们基本上就是说：我们不想要

It feels like they basically just said we don't want

我们更想要薪资空间？

We'd rather have cap space?

但当像热火这样的球队——无论你怎么评价他们的管理风格，他们确实是出色的人才评估者——却决定对丹尼斯·施罗德说谢谢但不用了，这很能说明问题。

But it's telling when a team like the Heat, say what you will about their personality management, they're pretty good talent evaluators, and they have just decided thanks but no thanks on Dennis Schroeder.

我就

I'll just

告诉你，我昨晚和我爸聊了，迈阿密有一大堆球员专门克制凯尔特人，而丹尼斯·施罗德不知为何也特别克制凯尔特人。

tell you, my dad and I talking last night, Miami just has a slew of guys who kill the Celtics, and Dennis Schruder kills the Celtics for some reason.

温斯洛在2022年对阵他们时表现非常出色。

Wiggins had a lot of success against them in 'twenty two.

凯尔·安德森这个人整体上就很特别，我们当时在想，希望他们别留下这些家伙，因为如果我们碰上七场系列赛的话

Kyle Anderson's just weird in general, and we were like, I hope they don't keep all these dudes, because if we see them in like a two seven series

你真的担心这个版本的热火队吗？

You really worried about this version of the Heat?

我总是担心迈阿密。

I'm always worried about Miami.

我总是担心他们。

I'm always worried about them.

从不放松对热火队的警惕。

Never not worried about the Heat.

目前，热火队在东部落后第四名三个胜场。

So right now, the Heat are three games out of the fourth seed in the East.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

这是他们新的轮换阵容。

And this is this is their new rotation.

他们有泰勒·赫罗和特里·罗齐尔，基本上在负责组织进攻。

They got Tyler Hero and Terry Rozier, more or less running point.

恐怖特里。

Scary Terry.

邓肯·罗宾逊，他们从猛龙队引进了达维翁·米切尔。

Duncan Robinson, they brought in Davion Mitchell from the Raptors.

哦，天哪。

Oh, no.

另一个我一直挺喜欢的球员，没错。

Another guy who I've always kinda liked, Sure.

真想看看他能在一支像样的球队里表现如何。

Kinda wanted to see him on a decent

安德鲁·威金斯，当然还有海伍德·海史密斯，海梅·哈卡兹。

Andrew Wiggins, of course, Haywood Highsmith, Jaime Hakaz.

巴姆和卡利尔·韦尔、尼古拉·约格什一起打四号位。

Bam's been playing the four with Khalil Ware, Nikola Yogesh.

韦尔这一个月表现不错。

Ware's been good for like a month.

大白的

Big White's

韦尔非常出色。

Ware is very good.

还有凯尔·安德森。

And Kyle Anderson.

你敢说这不是你听过的最迈阿密热火风格的球队吗？

Tell me that is not the most Miami Heat ass team you've ever heard.

这绝对是凯尔·安德森，最迈阿密热火风格的球员之一。

It's definitely Kyle Anderson's one of the most Miami Heat guys

他们肯定是一支很难对付的球队，我只是觉得现在的波士顿队太

They're definitely gonna be an annoying team to play against, I just think this version of Boston is just too

哦，我对波士顿队不担心他们。

Oh, I'm not worried about them for Boston.

好吧，那你们两个都这么想。

It's too Okay, that makes two of you.

我不想打迈阿密，他们对波士顿使了那种绝地心灵控制的招数。

I don't wanna play Miami, they fucking pulled Jedi mind trick shit against Boston.

他们确实有一群实力不错的轮换球员。

They definitely have a bunch of solid rotation guys.

关键是，你在这轮系列赛里真正害怕的是谁？

It's just like, who individually are you scared of in a series?

你觉得塔拉·雷杰尔会押注谁？

Do think Tara Rajer would bet on?

是不是太早了？

Too soon?

来吧，让我们得到宽恕，

Come on, leave us absolved,

别说了。

stop it.

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迈阿密现在有薪资空间，他们低于奢侈税，拥有交易特例，也许在四十五分钟截止前他们还会再做一件事。

Miami has cap space now, they're under the tax, they have a trade exception, and maybe they'll do one more thing before the forty five minutes from now deadline.

我不知道，伙计，赫罗的表现如此出色，巴姆也打得更好了。

I don't know man, the way Hero's playing, BAM's been playing better.

不知从哪里冒出来，他们似乎多了一点自己的风格。

Where out of nowhere feels like they have a little bit more of an identity.

他们有一些投篮手，我们看看他们能否从罗杰那里获得更多，自从完成那笔交易后他表现一直很差，但作为一次出其不意的反击，当你在系列赛中以1比2落后并疑惑发生了什么时，我仍然觉得他们在我眼中值得关注。

They have some shooting, we'll see if they can get more from Roger, who's been really bad ever since they made that trade, but just as a sneaky, you're down two-one in a series against them wondering what happened, I still feel like they're on the radar for me.

东部没有其他球队能比得上。

Nobody else in the East is.

在你越过四号种子之后，这是唯一一支让我在系列赛中会有点担心的球队。

That's the only team, once you get past the four seed, that's the only team I'd be like a little worried about in a series.

你还有别的球队吗？

Do you have anybody else?

我觉得雄鹿队仍然很有意思，而且我觉得魔术队，如果他们能真正整顿好，也仍然值得关注。

I think the Bucks are still interesting enough, and I think the Magic, if they ever get their shit together, are still interesting.

是的，我

Yeah, I

不过我猜他们在进攻端还有很多问题要解决。

guess they've got a lot to figure out offensively though.

我猜雄鹿队现在有了库兹马，因为他当时状态火热。

Guess the Bucks, now that they got Kuzma, because he was red hot.

没错，他当时

Mean, he was

打得非常好

playing great

我们能聊聊这个吗

this Can we talk about

那个？

that?

这个赛季表现得非常出色。

Was doing great this season.

如今的道歉听起来是什么样子？

What does the apology sound like these days?

我从未见过正负值能低到负

I've never seen plus minuses that could get to like minus

他已经有五年没在真正的NBA球队打过球了。

He 50 hasn't played on an actual NBA team for five years.

这已经是他在NBA西伯利亚的第五年了。

This is year five in NBA Siberia.

那是他自己的选择，他有选择的余地。

He had his choice, that was his choice.

他有离开的选择。

He had options to leave.

比如可以去更有竞争力的球队。

Could have been for competitive teams, for example.

说得对。

Fair.

也许他在寻找更好的夺冠机会。

Maybe he was looking out for a better championship situation.

我只是觉得，2020年在湖人队时，他扮演的是最纯粹的角色球员。

I just think in 2020 on the Lakers, he was the ultimate role guy.

他到底为什么要这么做？

Why is he really doing this?

是的。

Yes.

2020年。

2020.

他才是真正的角色球员。

He was the ultimate role guy.

再说一遍，他之前合作过的最后两位优秀球员是布拉德·比尔和

Again, the last two good players he played with were Brad Bill and

谁？

who?

这是鲍勃·卡林顿吗？

Is this is this Bob Carrington?

罗布，现在这种情况你听好了。

Rob, is this happening right Listen.

到了这个时候，凯尔·库兹马是个出色的切入手。

At this point, Kyle Kuzma, great cutter.

出色的切入手，不是顶尖射手，但需要时能命中空位投篮。

Great cutter, not a great shooter, but can make open shots when called upon.

明白吗？

Okay?

那糟糕的射手呢？

How about terrible shooter?

他之前的投篮命中率大概是27%左右。

He's shooting like 27% from previous I would say

他在一支毫无希望的球队中，投篮质量糟糕透顶。

his shot quality has been horrible on a team that's going nowhere.

这个赛季，他完全没有任何职业精神。

He has shown no professional pride whatsoever this season.

他一直在表现得很差。

Been actively bad.

他一直在表现得很差。

He's been actively bad.

他看起来像是在自动模式下打球。

He looks like he is on autopilot.

我只是觉得，当你效力于一支真正有目标的球队时，情况是不一样的。

I just think it's different when you play on a team that's actually playing for something.

当然。

Absolutely.

我

I

我觉得他可能是本赛季最差球员的有力竞争者。

think he's in the running for worst player of the season.

哇。

Wow.

比如，我们之前在讨论最差球员奖，如果你真看过奇才队的比赛，我觉得他绝对是本赛季我见过的最差球员之一。

Like, we were doing LVP, if you've actually watched Wizards games, I think he's one of the worst players I've seen this season.

他能突然醒悟，重新找回状态吗？

Can he just flip the switch and put it back?

我不知道。

I don't know.

我的意思是，像他这样效率低下、消极对抗，还总是这么懒散，真的很难做到。

I mean, it's hard to be that inefficient, that passive aggressive, and that much just straight chilling all the time.

我的意思是，这真是一种罕见的技能。

Like, it's it's really a rare skill.

奇才队的篮球状况简直糟透了。

The Wizards basketball situation is hell.

太糟糕了。

It's bad.

很难受。

It's hard.

有那么糟吗？

Is it that bad?

比如，他们有一群年轻球员。

Like, have a bunch of young guys.

他们有乔丹·普尔，他实际上打得还不错，这个乔丹·普尔。

They have Jordan Poole playing actually pretty well Jordan this Poole.

我不确定。

I don't know.

有那么糟吗？

Is it that bad?

你是队里的老将。

You're a veteran on the team.

你并不希望去年他们把你交易走。

You wanted you didn't want them to trade you last year.

他们正试图把你交易到达拉斯。

They're trying to trade you to Dallas.

你心想：我想留在这儿。

You're like, I wanna be here.

我这么说吧，如果雄鹿队没有放弃一位对他们球队至关重要的球员，而克里斯·米德尔顿又确实无法再达到他们所期望的水平，那这根本不是问题。

So I'll put it this way, like this wouldn't be a problem if what the Bucks weren't giving up is a player who was very important to their team and Khris Middleton, who just can't do it at that level that they need him to do anymore.

他做不到。

He can't

移动。

move.

他状态很差，他有两个糟糕的发挥。

He's got bad, he's got two bad acorns.

但他们需要的是能做一些类似克里斯·米德尔顿事情的人，而凯尔·库兹马更接近托里安·普林斯，而不是健康的克里斯·米德尔顿。

But what they needed was somebody who could do some Chris Middleton adjacent things, and Kyle Kuzma is closer to Torian Prince than he is to healthy Chris Middleton.

这是个大问题。

Is a big problem

对于一个出色的、类似克里斯·米德尔顿的球员来说。

for a great Chris Middleton esque guy out there.

不，不是在交易现在的克里斯，但这就是那个困境。

No, and not in trading Chris in his current form, but that's quandary that

雄鹿队知道，今年这些球员一直是个无足轻重的角色。

the Bucks know, found to this himself year guys has been a non entity.

偶尔会出现。

Been a occasional There

两周前有一段时期，他在三场比赛中有两场得分为零，简直是零蛋。

was a stretch two weeks ago when he had zero points in two of three games, like the goose eggs.

有很多交替的情况，

Was a lot of alternating,

但不知怎么的，他三分命中率高达45%左右，简直不可思议。

But somehow he's shooting like 45% from three or something crazy.

几乎看起来，

Almost looking,

对于这些球员，你可以让四号位和尤素夫搭档，或者在需要时和布鲁克搭档。

play four for these guys next to Jusuf, or next to Brooke if you need him to.

而且再说一次，我认为这个角色定位

And again, I think that role play

丛林狗那个人还在里面。

jungle dog guy is still in there.

哦，我们在录音呢。

Wos, we're recording this.

最后一件事，因为我觉得库兹马这件事会奏效。

One last thing, because I think the Kuzma thing is gonna work.

去年夏天组建美国队时，库兹马是个直言不讳的球员，他说：‘这些家伙都是大牌NBA球员，总得有人来承担特定角色。’

When Team USA was assembled last summer, Kuzma, who's like an outspoken tour guy, he's like, yo, these guys are big NBA players and names, somebody's gonna have to fill a role.

总得有人来做这些脏活累活。

Somebody's gonna have to do these dirty work things.

德文·布克曾 famously 说过：‘我愿意’，或者类似的话，这很能说明问题——我明白在一个追求伟大目标的团队中意味着什么。

And Devin Booker like famously said, I will or whatever, quote, This completed, is cool to explain to you, like, I understand what it means to be on a team that's trying to do

做些有意义的事。

something meaningful.

五年前，德怀特·霍华德就在那支队伍里。

It's five years ago, Dwight Howard was on that team.

你看，拉简·隆多也在那支队伍里。

Look, Vaishan Rondo was on that team.

疫情，疫情，我只是觉得

COVID, COVID, I it just

我觉得，德克作为教练时，拜登总统还活着。

think, think Doc as a coach Joe Biden was alive.

他是那种会因为你没有正确履行角色、没有和亚赫亚配合好而骂你的类型。

Is the kind of guy who will curse you out for not doing the right thing in terms of playing your role, playing next to Yahya's

我会从另一个角度说。

I'll go the other way.

我觉得多克会讨厌凯尔·库兹马。

I think Doc's gonna hate Kyle Kuzma.

我觉得他会讨厌

I think he's gonna hate

我觉得他会说：我们居然为了这小子做了交易？

I think he's gonna be like, I can't believe we traded for this guy.

为什么当初不

Why didn't

我的球探说，再过三四周，当这件事开始

And my scouts tell in three, four weeks when this thing is

真正运转起来时，我们再回来。

actually working, we'll come back.

我们拥有平局决胜票。

We get the tiebreaker vote.

这不会顺利的。

It's not gonna go well.

是的。

Yeah.

他是凯尔·库兹马。

He's Kyle Kuzma.

哇。

Wow.

关键是，当你处理这种规模的交易时，这对雄鹿队来说是一笔巨大的交易，他们一直等待着合适的时机，要么交易掉克里斯·米德尔顿，要么交易掉布鲁克·洛佩兹。

Here's the thing, when you approach a trade of this magnitude, and this is a huge trade for the Bucks, they've been waiting to either trade Khris Middleton or Brook Lopez for the right move that came along.

这并不是正确的选择。

This is not the right move.

我要去看看我们的YouTube聊天。

I'm going into our YouTube chat.

感谢所有发送问题的朋友。

Thanks to everybody who's sending questions.

Raptallion说，如果不是因为库兹马，我们可能不会有‘Din shitty’这个绰号。

Raptallion says, hey, if it weren't for Kuzma, we might not have the nickname Din shitty.

我忘了这回事。

I forgot about that.

我忘了库兹马和丁威迪之间的恩怨。

I forgot about the Kuzma Dinwiddie feud.

所以人们想知道他们是否可以交易乔丹·普尔。

So people wanna know if they can trade Jordan Poole.

他今年表现得相当不错。

He's playing pretty well this year.

他现在也是他们轮换阵容中的老将了。

He's also their, I wanna say, the elder statesman of their rotation right now.

那么乔丹·普尔会是奥兰多魔术队的目标吗？

So is Jordan Poole a Orlando Magic candidate?

我个人不觉得他是奥兰多魔术队的球员，但是，

I don't think he's an Orlando Magic player, personally, but,

你知道的。

you know.

奥兰多队知道他们是可以做交易的吗？

Does Orlando know they're allowed to make trades?

我们很快就会知道了。

We're gonna soon find out.

我觉得他们做了沃斯尼奇的交易，然后就直接说：好了，到此为止。

I think they did the Wosnyvich trade, and they're just like, Mic trap.

我们不再做任何交易了。

No more trades for us.

我们已经做完了。

We did it.

他们可能在寻求一些补强方面应该更迫切一点，毕竟知道

They probably should be a little bit more desperate in she terms knows of getting some they

陷入

fall in

爱上他们的年轻球员。

love with their young guys.

所以他们仍然认为这些球员都会以重大方式成长，这并不令人惊讶。

So it's not that surprising that they still think, you know, all of these guys are gonna come through in a major way.

杰伦·萨格斯受伤了，我认为这一点在他们真正的实力中被低估了。

Jalen Suggs going down, I think, is just underrated in how they really

很难想象。

hard to imagine.

结果他才是他们的MVP，谁想得到？

Turned that he was their MVP, who knew?

我以为是保罗。

I thought it was Paolo.

对他们球队很重要。

Important to their team.

关于密尔沃基队的库兹马交易，这其实是一笔纯粹的金钱操作，他们不得不浪费掉去年选中的首轮签，AJ·约翰逊因此低于薪资帽，这就引发了一个问题：为什么劳资协议这么烂？

So with the Milwaukee, that Kuzma trade, which is really a money trade, they have to waste their first round pick they took last year, AJ Johnson got under the apron, which raises the question, why did the CBA suck so much?

联盟怎么就变成了所有人都在拼命压低薪资帽、做财务操作、节省税款？

How did the league just turn into just people trying to get under the apron, make financial moves, save tax money?

我知道一方面有NBA、老板们、亚当·西尔弗，这些可能是地球上最聪明的律师；而另一方面，却只有几个球员，有些人只是因为觉得能和勒布朗合照很酷才接了这份工作，结果每次都被人耍得团团转。

I know it's like on the one hand you have the NBA, the owners, Adam Silver, probably the smartest lawyers on the planet, and then on the other side you have a couple players, some dude who took the job because they thought it'd be cool to get a picture with LeBron, and they get worked every time.

太恶心了。

Disgusting.

这是两回事。

It's two things.

这太糟糕了。

It's terrible.

没人能让我相信，这不会让球员损失金钱。

So nobody's gonna convince me that this doesn't cost players money.

人们说，不，篮球收入是保障的，球队也必须达到最低支出标准，但那又怎样。

People say, Well, no, the basketball revenue is guaranteed, and teams have to spend to a floor, and like but that's cool.

但这些都是事实。

Those are literal facts though.

对。

Yeah.

不，这没问题。

No, that's cool.

是的。

Yeah.

但球队们却做得太过头了。

But like teams going beyond, above and beyond.

当然，当然。

Sure, sure.

需要做的是增加球员薪酬总额。

What is called for is more money in the player pool.

现在球队只会说，我们没有这个选择。

And now teams will just say, we don't have that option

我明白你的意思。

I see what you're saying.

因为这些原因。

Because of these things.

球员们同意这一点的原因是新的劳资协议生效了，他们的收入翻了一倍。

And the reason why the players agree to it is that the new CBA kicked in and they two x ed the money.

所以当你赚了这么多钱时，就会想：我们为什么要为这个拼命？

So when you're making all this money, it's like, why are we going to bat for this?

我们的财富比以往任何时候都增加了两倍半。

We're richer than we've ever been by two and a half times x.

因此，这种情况反过来让老板们获得了这种优势。

And so that situation conversely let the owners get this.

这 literally 让乔·拉科布可以永远在最初五六年里，一直大幅超过工资帽，一直缴纳奢侈税。

And it's literally so that Joe Lacob could forever just be like, you know, his first five, six years, just always spending way over the cabin, always going into the luxury tax.

现在他可以毫无顾忌地对球迷说：伙计们，第二条奢侈税线取消了。

Now he could go to his fan base without any retribution and say, Guys, second apron out.

是的，我无能为力。

Yeah, my hands are tied.

我觉得

I think

我无能为力。

my hands are tied.

你知道，

You know,

一个男人能怎么办呢？

what can a guy do?

老板们简直就是，

The owners just literally like,

那个，真的有薪资帽以上限制吗？

is that like, there's an apron?

我的天啊。

My goodness.

关键就在于，你所描述的这种状况，本质上长期以来一直就是这样。

That's the thing, like, ultimately what you're describing is in some way the way the leak has been for a long time.

他们当时主要只是想规避税收。

It was just they were mostly trying to dodge the tax.

现在，即使你的薪资超过了税收线，也需要绕过更多的限制，而且处罚也更严厉。

Now even if you are above the tax, there are more lines to dodge, and harsher penalties.

我以前从未见过，有这么多交易的首要原因竟是这个。

I've never seen it be the number one reason for this many trades before.

我们一直都有财务方面的影响之类的问题，但这次不一样。

We've always had financial implications and stuff, this is different.

你现在有八、九、十支球队都在说：我们这么做，只是为了能降到第一、第二、第三条 apron 线以下。

You have eight, nine, 10 teams that are just like, We're doing this because it gets us under apron one, apron two, apron three.

我也觉得球迷们没兴趣花时间去理解，他们根本不在乎，这太复杂了，最后就演变成了一场‘有’与‘无’的篮球之争。

I also think the fans don't want to take the time to understand it, they don't care, it's confusing, and it turns into this have, have not of basketball conversation.

而且没人能解释清楚

And nobody can explain to

它到底解决了什么问题？

me what problem it was solving.

在销售方面，这解决了什么问题？

What was solved by this in terms of selling it?

嗯，看起来他们之所以这样，是因为我们之前讨论过扎克·拉文这件事，现在想交易扎克·拉文变得更难了。

Well, it seems like they were So I talked about this, we talked about this, about the Zach Levine thing, where it's harder to trade Zach Levine.

于是扎克·拉文就说：好吧，那我就卷起袖子，为芝加哥打出一个出色的赛季。

So Zach Levine then goes, All right, I guess I'll roll my sleeves up, and I'm going to have an awesome season for Chicago.

反正我也去不了别的地方。

It's not like I can go anywhere.

但每一个扎克·拉文背后，都有十种其他方式出了问题，现在看起来球员流动更多了，被买断的人更多了，阵容更替也更频繁了。

But for every Zach LaVine, there's been 10 other ways that this went wrong, and it just seems like there's more player movement, there's more guys getting bought out, there's more roster turnover.

我们又做了一笔交易，顺带一提。

We had another trade, by way.

我们得到了什么？

What do we get?

快船队交易走了特伦斯·曼，这位深受喜爱的快船老将，总是能打出T曼的精彩表现，还有博恩斯·海兰德，他简直再合适不过了，换来了博格丹·博格丹诺维奇和三个次轮签。

The Clippers have traded Terrence Mann, a beloved Clipper guy forever, who always had the T Man game, and Bones Highland, who couldn't have been more available, for Bogdan Bogdanovich in three second round picks.

这下才像话了。

Now we're talking.

快船队需要一个像这样的、能替补上场点燃球队的家伙。

The Klips needed a heat checky, off the bench kind of guy like this.

我本来特别希望丹佛能得到博格丹诺维奇，因为他有那种‘约卡’般的气质，但你知道的，丹佛被禁止做交易或花钱，他们可是零奢侈税球队。

I was really hoping Denver would get Bogdanovich because he has the, you know, the jokage thing, but as you know, Denver's not allowed to I make trades or spend think they're a zero apron team.

听着，赛季第一周，斯特鲁德的话题，还有克里斯蒂安·布朗的事，我当时就想，泽克·纳吉，泽克·纳吉前几天还投进了几个三分球，

Look, first week of the season, the Stroudh talk, even the Christian Brown stuff, I was like, Zeke Najee, I was like, Zeke Najee made a couple threes the other day,

我当时就想，这到底怎么回事？

and I was like, what the

到底发生什么事了？

hell is going on?

我当时就想，伙计们，

Like, I was just like, guys, like,

我明白。

I get it.

你爱你的年轻球员，等等。

You love your young guys and whatever.

你这么说，是不是在群里没吹朱利安·斯特瑟？

Did you say this like you're not talking up Julian Strather in the group

不，现在这个群已经不是那样了。

No, tag this group is now.

多找点人。

Have more dudes.

天啊，我觉得斯特拉这表现比之前好多了。

Damn, I'm like, damn, Strah, this is kind of better than

我以为是这样。

I thought it was.

所以也许他们会被证明是对的，但你说得对，比尔，我真希望他们能搞个类似博格丹那样的操作。

So maybe they will be vindicated, but you're right, Bill, I would have loved to see them do something like a bogey thing.

当他们卷入扎克·莱文的争夺战时，我真的很兴奋，据说如此。

Was excited when they were in the Zach Levine sweepstakes, allegedly.

我当时对那份合同很满意。

Like, I was happy with that contract.

这发生在五年前的凯尔特人队，他们要么签巨额合同，要么签小额合同，中间没有过渡，你根本无法签下1600万到2000万美元级别的球员，因为合同根本拼不起来。

This happened in the Celtics five years ago, where they either have giant contracts or small contracts that no in between, and you can't get the 16 to $20,000,000 guy because you literally can't put the contracts together.

是的。

Yep.

博格多诺维奇和快船队。

Bogdanovich and the Clippers.

我的意思是，他们这笔引援我很喜欢。

I mean, love the pickup for them.

这是一次低买高卖的操作，我们必须承认这一点。

It is a buy low thing, and we need to acknowledge that.

博吉斯正经历着他职业生涯中最糟糕的赛季，甚至包括进入NBA之前，他真的完全不在状态。

Bogies having the worst season of maybe his entire professional life, including pre NBA, just has not had it.

他一直是个被低估的奥运会后状态下滑的球员。

He's been an underrated post Olympics slowdown guy.

几乎所有人都如此。

Almost everybody Yeah.

这个赛季，他在奥运会后表现得有点慢，脚步也略显迟缓。

Into the Olympics has been a little slow, a little step slow this season.

这确实是个问题。

It's been a thing for sure.

所以我希望看到他重新找回自己比赛的某些部分，尤其是让他和一群高防守价值的球员一起为快船队效力。

So I would love to see him recapture some parts of his game, surrounding him with high, like, high leverage defensive personnel with the Clippers.

这支球队极度需要得分能力，具体取决于哈登那晚的状态以及他受到的防守压力，还有卡哇伊每天的健康状况，他们正需要波格丹诺维奇能提供的东西。

That's a team that is so desperate for shot making, depending on what's going on with Harden, how he's being pressured that night, where Kawhi is in terms of his health on a day to day basis, they need what Bogdanovich can provide.

如果这就是代价，那为什么不呢？

And so, if this is the cost, absolutely, why not?

我可以给你读一下他的数据吗？

Can I read you his stats?

我甚至都不想听他们的数据。

I'm a little worried to even hear them.

场均10分。

10 points a game.

是的。

Yeah.

投篮命中率很低。

The shooting percentages are bad.

你知道通常50-40-90是命中率的标准吗？

Well, know how normally fifty, forty, 90 is the standard for percentages?

他是个37%、30%、88%的球员。

He's a 37, thirty, eighty eight guy.

这不是你想要的。

Not what you want.

7.6次助攻。

7.6 PR.

这简直快接近布莱恩·詹姆斯那种神级水平了。

It's like nearing Brian James level of God.

抱歉，Wos。

Sorry, Wos.

但去年，他场均17分。

It's been But last year, 17 a game.

是的。

Yeah.

而且

And

我觉得当个本地人的辩护者，而不是喜剧演员，我挺自在的。

I feel okay being I a like local the apologist, not a comic.

是的，每次和他在一起，我都觉得，首先，亚特兰大对他来说绝对是支完全错误的球队。

Yeah, always feel with him like, first of all, Atlanta could not have been more of a wrong team for him.

我不知道特雷·杨是不是他的催化剂。

I don't know if Trae Young is the catalyst for him.

我想看到他加入一支球队，那里你会进场，打八分钟，我们会为你设计战术。

I wanna see him on a team that's like, you're coming in, you're gonna play eight minutes, we're gonna run plays for you.

我们会为你跑动。

We're gonna run you

完全放权给你。

all Ultimate the green light.

放手去干吧，做你自己。

Go nuts, do your thing.

对于老鹰队来说，特伦斯·曼，另一个长轮换球员。

And then for the Hawks, Terrence Mann, another long swing guy.

是的。

Yeah.

我身边有些快船球迷一直在问，他们什么时候才会让这小子大显身手？

There's some Clipper fans in my life who are like, when are they gonna unleash this guy?

但从来都没发生过。

Never really happened.

从未真正

Never really

从未真正发生过。

Never really happened.

博恩斯。

Bones.

博恩斯？

Bones?

他怎么样？

What about him?

他肯定是NBA的一名球员。

He is a player in the NBA, that's for sure.

一个在三十年前更有意义的球员。

A player that made a lot more sense thirty years ago.

当我刚刚开始，再次为掘金队的每一件事喝彩时，我坚信博恩斯将会成为真正的球星。

Back when I was just, again, applauding everything the Nuggets did, I just swore Bones was gonna be a He was the truth.

一个人。

A person.

但他通过了一次智商测试失败了。

But then he failed an IQ test.

他和尼古拉耶维奇一起打球时并不开心。

He wasn't happy playing with Nikolayovich.

不，是的。

No, yeah.

那可是智商测试的顶级标准。

Which is like the number one IQ test.

他抱怨在一支球队里得不到足够的上场时间，而那支球队就像

He was complaining that he wasn't getting enough tick on a team that like

是的，尼古拉耶维奇。

Yeah, Nikolayovich.

他认为自己比贾马尔·默里更强。

He thought he was better than Ja'Mal Murray.

是的，真难啊。

Yeah, tough.

现在他即将加入他的第三支球队。

And now he's about to be on his third team.

没错。

Yep.

几乎到了我们可以用‘骨岛’取代迪安·韦特勒和重播内容的程度了，这简直就像一次人格热度测试。

Almost borderline we could replace DeAnn Waiters and the rewatchables with the Bone It's Bone Island heat almost like a personality heat check.

好吧，那么亚特兰大，

Alright, so, Atlanta,

他们真的在彻底重建。

they're really gutting this thing.

我想，你知道，从球队未来的方向来看，这说得通，他们更倾向于杰伦·约翰逊和扎卡里·里西凯，对吧？

I guess, you know, it makes sense in the way that the future of their team is more Jaylen Johnson, Zachary Rysichay oriented, right?

就像里西凯。

Like Rysichet.

我觉得这里面有些东西是可行的。

I think there's something there that works.

你现在非得马上处理所有这些琐事吗？

Do you have to do all of this housekeeping right now?

我不太清楚为什么非得现在就做这件事。

I don't exactly know why it would need to happen right now.

是的，我明白他们的想法，他们不保留自己的选秀权，这就像是：既然要输，为什么还要给对方一个更好的签位？

Yeah, I get the, I guess the idea that they're not keeping their pick, it's like, why are you losing and giving them a better pick?

这就像是，已经没了，彻底没了。

It's like, that's gone, it's out the door.

我们得

We gotta

在我听到这个之前就得这么做。

do this before I've heard this.

这就像是我们已经失去这个签位了。

It's like we already lost the pick.

我们真的会在意是第四顺位还是第十二顺位吗？我个人会在意。

It's totally do we care if it's four, I 12, would personally care.

我会说，天哪。

I would be like, oh my god.

报复性的那一部分。

The spite piece.

是的，我们以前见过这种情况发生。

Yeah, We've stick it to seen this happen in the past.

我记得快船队有一年，为了摆脱巴隆·戴维斯的合同，把他们的首轮签交易了出去，嗯，我们就直接认了。

I remember the Clippers, that one year when they traded their number one to get rid of Baron Davis' contract, like, Yeah, we're just gonna eat it.

结果后来变成了凯里·欧文。

Then it turned into Kyrie Irving.

你永远无法预料。

You just never know.

我只是不想去验证这一点。

I just wouldn't to wanna find out.