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我是安娜·马丁,现代爱情播客的主持人。
I'm Anna Martin, the host of the Modern Love Podcast.
每一期节目,我们都会走进某个人生活的私密角落,了解他们对爱的理解。
In every episode, we peek into an intimate corner of someone's life and learn about what love means to them.
你知道吗,我和一个人在一起已经三十五年了。
You know, I can tell you thirty five years with another person.
我这辈子也没和别人待过这么长时间。
I've never spent that much time with anyone else either.
所以我们俩
So we both
都挺快地说了我爱你。
kind of said I love you pretty fast.
我的建议是,如果很难,那也没关系。
My advice is that it's okay if it's hard.
你可以在任何听播客的地方收听《现代爱情》。
You can listen to Modern Love wherever you get your podcasts.
你好。
Hello.
嗨,妈妈。
Hi, mom.
嗨,宝贝。
Hi, honey.
你怎么样?
How are you?
我挺好的。
I'm good.
你呢?
How are you?
还不错。
Fine.
谢谢。
Thank you.
怎么了?
What's going on?
我跟你说过,咱们今天做的是母亲节特辑。
I told you we're doing this Mother's Day episode.
对吧?
Right?
对,你说了。
Yes, you did.
好吧。
Okay.
所以这个节目的想法是,我们收集了很多妈妈常说的话,我们管它们叫‘妈妈金句’。
So the idea for it is that we've been collecting all of these expressions that moms say, like mom mantras, we're sort of calling them.
就是那些妈妈们反复叮嘱的小建议。
Little bits of advice that moms repeat over time.
哎呀。
Aw.
这不是很可爱吗?
Isn't that cute?
是的。
Yes.
你能猜到我跟别人说你的那句是什么吗?
Can you guess what I've told people yours is?
猜不到。
No.
真的猜不到。
I can't.
真的吗?
Really?
猜不到。
No.
真的猜不到。
I can't.
那是什么?
What is it?
这就是美好的旧时光。
These are the good old days.
哦,原来如此。
Oh, of course.
对啊。
Right.
是的。
Yes.
当然了。
Of course.
你的意思是,不管发生什么事,不管多大年纪,你总会回过头觉得,这一刻就是最美好的时光。
Which you mean it, like, regardless of whatever's happening, no matter how old you are, you're always gonna look back at, this moment as the good old days.
对吧?
Right?
是的。
Yes.
因为我们总是回头去看那些事,觉得那时候真美好,可当时却不懂得珍惜。
Because we look back at things and we say, oh, this was so wonderful, but we don't appreciate them when they're happening.
如果你能用未来的视角来看现在发生的事,就能更清楚地感受到它们有多珍贵。
And if you look at things as you would look at them from the future, then you can see how precious they are much more easily.
这句话到底是哪儿来的?
Where did this even come from, this phrase?
是你自己想出来的吗?
Did you make it up?
我不记得是我原创的,但这是从经历中得来的。
I don't think I made it up, but it's just from experience.
比如我看到那张照片,当时还觉得自己这也不好那也不行。
It's like, I look at that photo, and I thought at the time, I looked so this and so that.
真是没想到啊。
It's like, wow.
回头看那段时光,多年以后,我觉得自己那时候真美。
Looking at that time, years later, I looked so wonderful.
真希望当时就能懂得珍惜。
I wish I could have appreciated it then.
而且我
And I
我花了好几十年才终于明白过来。
don't know how many decades it took me to finally realize it.
你懂的吧?
You know?
但我还是想在为时已晚之前把这话告诉你,真的很高兴你听进去了。
But I did wanna pass that on to you before it's too late, and I'm so happy it took.
好,妈。
Okay, mom.
我还有一个问题想问你。
I have one more question for you.
既然这是个母亲节特辑,你能帮我做个宣传海报吗?
Since this is a Mother's Day show, will you help me do the billboard for it?
那是什么意思?
What does that mean?
你知道这个节目的宣传海报长什么样吗?
You know what the billboard of the show is?
不知道。
No.
宣传海报就是那种像《纽约时报》上写的‘我是瑞秋·阿布拉姆斯’那样的东西。
The billboard is the thing which is like, from The New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams.
这是《每日新闻》。
This is The Daily.
好。
Okay.
所以开头要先说‘来自《纽约时报》,我是’,然后报上你的名字。
So it's you start out by saying, from The New York Times, I'm and then you say your name.
那你能说一遍吗?
So can you say that?
好的。
Okay.
要不要练一练?
You wanna practice?
好啊。
Yeah.
来自《纽约时报》,我是爱丽丝·切斯勒·亚伯拉罕。
From The New York Times, I'm Alice Chesler Abrams.
太棒了。
Excellent.
接下来你说:这是《周日每日新闻》。
And now you say, this is the Sunday Daily.
这是《周日每日新闻》。
This is the Sunday Daily.
你能试着说服我吗,妈妈?
Can you try can you try to sell me on it, mom?
好的。
Okay.
我该说,好吧。
Should I okay.
来自《纽约时报》,我是爱丽丝·切斯勒·亚伯拉罕,这是《每日新闻》。
From The New York Times, I'm Alice Chesler Abrams, and this is The Daily.
《周日每日新闻》。
The Sunday Daily.
来自《纽约时报》,我是爱丽丝·切斯勒·亚伯拉罕,这是《周日每日新闻》。
From The New York Times, I'm Alice Chesler Abrams, and this is The Sunday Daily.
我来念下一部分。
I'll do the next part.
好的。
Okay.
今天,我们和《健康》专栏合作,向读者征集你们妈妈的口头禅。
Today, we partnered with The Well desk here to do a call out to readers for your mom mantras.
你们给我们发来了很多语音留言,都是关于妈妈们常挂在嘴边、深深印在你们心里的那些话,它们传递了关于生活的宝贵智慧。
And you sent us voice memos, so many voice memos about the expressions that your moms used all the time that have stuck with you and that imparted some important wisdom about life.
今天是五月十号,星期天。
It's Sunday, May 10.
妈妈,要不你来说一句?
Actually, mom, you wanna say that?
今天是五月十号,星期天。
It's Sunday, May 10.
好的。
Okay.
今天是五月十号,星期天。
It's Sunday, May 10.
稍后我们继续为大家带来你们妈妈的口头禅。
And we'll be right back with your mom mantras.
等一下。
Wait.
我现在该说什么?
What do I say now?
马上回来。
We'll be right back.
马上回来,继续听大家的妈妈金句。
We'll be right back with your mom mantras.
你好。
Hi.
你是The Daily的常听用户。
You're a regular listener of The Daily.
你喜欢了解世界上正在发生的事。
You like knowing what's going on in the world.
如果你订阅《纽约时报》,就能知道得更多了。
Well, you could know way more if you subscribe to The New York Times.
我是迈克尔·西蒙·约翰逊。
I'm Michael Simon Johnson.
我是《每日新闻》的制作人之一。
I'm one of the producers that makes The Daily.
我们在节目中能呈现的内容,只是《纽约时报》每天发布的精彩报道中的一小部分。
What we can cover on the show is really just a sliver of the incredible reporting that's being published every day in The New York Times.
一些出人意料又发人深省的文章,你平时根本不会碰见。
Unexpected, insightful articles you might never otherwise come across.
对我来说,就是这篇关于各州如何从法律上界定蝴蝶的文章。
For me, that's this piece about how states legally classify butterflies.
讲的是它们是否被认定为野生动物。
It has to do with whether they're considered wildlife.
这事儿不太好解释,但特别有意思,你真该去读一读。
It's hard to explain, but it's fascinating, and and you should just read it.
《纽约时报》当然会提供当天最重要、最核心的新闻,我们《每日新闻》也经常报道这些,但还有更多值得探索的内容。
The Times obviously delivers the vital, essential news of the day, much of which we cover on The Daily, but there so much beyond that to explore.
当然了,当你成为《纽约时报》的订阅用户时,你不仅支持了这些新闻报道,还能亲身感受到它们。
And, yes, you support all of this journalism when you become a subscriber to The New York Times, but you also get to experience it.
你的好奇心会得到满足。
You get your curiosity fed.
你会学到很多有趣的知识,也能及时了解世界正在发生什么。
You get to know cool stuff, and you get to be informed about what's going on in the world.
你可以前往 nytimes.com/subscribe 订阅。
You can subscribe at nytimes.com/subscribe.
我叫简·迪。
My name is Jane Dee.
我原本来自马萨诸塞州的萨默塞特。
I'm originally from Somerset, Massachusetts.
我妈妈总爱说一些话。
My mother had a lot of sayings.
我不知道该不该叫它们座右铭,但绝对是典型的妈妈式金句。
I don't know if they're mantras, but they're certainly mom isms.
每次我兄弟姐妹或我要出门,她都会提醒我们,所有的悲剧都是从玩乐开始的。
Every time my brother or sister or I were about to leave the house, she would remind us that all tragedy starts out in fun.
抱歉啊,妈,你这话可真扫兴。
I'm sorry, but way to bring the room down, mom.
我妈妈常说的一句话是:嘿。
My momism or mom mantra is, hey.
你可不是垃圾桶里唯一的易拉罐。
You're not the only tin can in the dump.
用盐水漱口。
Gargle with salt water.
抓起来,吼一声。
Grab it and growl.
生活就像狂欢节。
Life is like a Mardi Gras.
你就像平底锅里乱窜的一股屁。
You're just rattling around like a fart in a skillet.
我叫亚历克斯,来自佛蒙特州的蒙彼利埃。
I'm Alex, and I'm from Montpelier, Vermont.
我妈妈常说的一个词是‘boo’。
My mom's expression is boo.
让我解释一下。
Let me explain.
我妈妈是小学一年级老师。
My mom's a first grade teacher.
有一天她和另一位老师一起上课,有个小男孩突然站起来,看着她,直接说了一声‘boo’。
And one day when she was co teaching, this little boy stands up in the middle of her lesson, looks at her, and just goes, boo.
在学校里,通常不鼓励发出嘘声。
Traditionally, booing is not encouraged at school.
但那天她回家后跟我讲了这事,我们俩忍不住笑起来,因为这确实是面对那些你完全没法掌控、又特别不爽的情况时,最完美的反应。
But when she got home that day, she told me about it, and we couldn't help but laugh because it's kinda the perfect response to any situation where you have no control,
但你心里又特别不乐意。
but you are not happy about it.
你好啊。
Howdy.
我是来自德克萨斯州奥斯汀的理查德·马丁。
I'm Richard Martin from Austin, Texas.
德克萨斯州有很多生动的俚语,我奶奶常说的是‘把那锅汤里的洋葱捞出来’,意思就是‘我知道你在骗我’。
Texas is a state brimming with colorful expressions, and one that I heard frequently from my grandmother was take an onion out of that stew, which meant I know you're lying to me.
别耍花招,说实话吧。
Straighten up and tell the truth.
你好。
Hello.
我叫格温·哈维。
My name is Gwen Harvey.
我住在俄勒冈州的波特兰。
I live in Portland, Oregon.
我妈妈常说的一句话是:‘拿不准的时候,就去打扫。'
My mom's expression was, when in doubt, clean.
孩子,要是心里不踏实,就动手做点事。
If something is bothering you, dear child, put yourself to work.
整理一下衣柜。
Clean a closet.
把橱柜清一清。
Clean out a cupboard.
洗个车。
Wash the car.
给狗洗个澡。
Wash the dog.
就算还没想明白答案,至少你也干了点实事,日子总归是变好了。
If you haven't figured out an answer or answers, at least you come away with some evidence of things being better.
你好。
Howdy.
嗨。
Hi.
这是鲍比。
This is Bobby.
我在德克萨斯中部。
I'm in Central Texas.
我有个特别有意思的故事要讲给你听。
I got a great story for you.
明白吗?
Okay?
我开车到爸妈家,正往车库里倒车。
I was stopped by the folks' house, and I was pulling into the garage.
我一进去,就看见妈妈一手拿着半瓶威猛先生清洁剂,一手拿着抹布。
And as I pulled in, I noticed mom had a half bottle of Windex in one hand and a cleaning rag in the other.
她一边往后退,一边回头盯着她刚喷过清洁剂的地方。
And she as she was stepping back, she was looking back at whatever she had been Windexing.
我下车的时候就问:妈,你这是在干嘛呢?
And as I got out of my car, I said, Ma, what you doing?
她说:‘我刚把热水器喷了Windex。’
And she says, I just finished Windexing the water heater.
我说:‘天啊,我当场眼睛都翻白了。’
And I said, oh, mean, my eyes rolled back in my head.
于是我跟她说:‘妈,你真该找点别的爱好了。’
So I said, Ma, honey, it's time for you to get a hobby.
她只是笑得合不拢嘴,眼睛一直盯着那个热水器。
And she just kept grinning and beaming and staring at that water heater.
她说:‘我特别喜欢早上闻Windex的味道。’
And she says, I love the smell of Windex in the morning.
那味道,就像打赢了仗一样。
It smells like victory.
我叫杰西·凯,住在佛罗里达州的迈阿密。
My name is Jessie Kaye, and I live in Miami, Florida.
我妈妈总跟我说:‘杰西,屁股后面要是没靠山,可坐不稳整个世界。’
My mom always tells me, Jesse, with one behind, you can't sit on the whole world.
这句话是我祖母传下来的,她以前总说,只有一个屁股,可坐不了整个世界。
And this is passed down from my grandmother who used to tell us, with one you can't sit on the whole world.
我妈妈的意思是,你不可能同时把所有事都做完。
And what my mom means by this is essentially, you can't do everything at once.
你好。
Hi.
我叫吉塞尔·高更,住在加拿大新不伦瑞克省的弗雷德里克顿。
My name is Giselle Gauguin, and I live in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada.
我妈妈盖尔有个口头禅:杯子到嘴边,也可能洒了。
My mother, Gail, has a favorite expression, and it is, there's many a slip between the cup and the lip.
意思是别太早得意,事情还没成真呢。
And it means, you know, don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
别太自以为是。
Don't get cocky.
就是提醒人别太飘,得踏实点。
And it's meant to, you know, bring someone down a peg.
但我妈妈人特别好,她说这话的本意其实是让你别担心。
But my mother, being the wonderful person that she is, she always means it in the context of don't worry.
世事无常,处处都在变。
Everything is always changing all the time everywhere.
比如工作中那些你控制不了、总觉得会搞砸的事,其实多半不会出问题。
You know, that situation at work that you can't control, that you're convinced is gonna end badly, it probably won't.
就算真出了问题,也没你想象的那么糟,毕竟事情往往没那么准。
And if it does, it's probably not gonna be as bad as you think because there's many a slip between the cup and the lip.
你好。
Hi.
我叫珍妮,来自费城。
My name is Janine, and I'm from Philadelphia.
我青春期那会儿,每次出门找朋友,我妈都会说同样一句话。
When I was going through my teenage years, my mom would say the same thing to me every time I was heading out the door to meet up with friends.
她每次都强调:不许谈恋爱,不许碰毒品,只能听摇滚乐。
Without fail, she would say, no sex, no drugs, only rock and roll.
你好。
Hi.
我叫托比·克罗克特,来自加利福尼亚的帕索罗布尔斯。
My name is Toby Crockett, and I'm from Paso Robles in California.
我妈妈常说的一句话是:别教祖母怎么吸鸡蛋。
My mom's expression was, don't teach your grandmother how to suck eggs.
我那时候总是回她:哦,好吧。
I was always like, okay.
可谁会想去吸鸡蛋呢?
Well, why would anybody want to suck eggs?
第一,谁会需要别人教怎么吸鸡蛋?
One, why would anybody need to be taught how to suck eggs?
第二,这跟祖母有什么关系?她根本不像会吸鸡蛋的人。
Two, and what did my grandmother have to do with it because she did not seem like the egg sucking type.
当然,后来我慢慢明白了,这话其实是想说:你这毛头小子,太自以为是了。
Of course, later, I learned more about it, you know, and understood that this was supposed to mean, hey, stupid whippersnapper.
别跟我说该怎么做事,我早就比你熟练一百倍了。
Don't tell me how to do what I already know how to do, like, a million times better than you do.
小时候我确实有点懵,但现在我都六十多岁了,这话简直太对了。
And while it might have been somewhat confusing as a child, now that I'm in my sixties, oh, it's so righteous.
我到底要再说多少遍才明白?
How many times do I want to say this?
这简直就是万能版的‘男性说教’。
It's sort of like the all purpose version of mansplaining.
别对我指手画脚,也别教我怎么吸鸡蛋。
Like, don't mansplain me, and don't teach me how to suck eggs either.
我叫希拉里·史密斯。
My name is Hillary Smith.
我住在纽约布鲁克林。
I live in Brooklyn, New York.
那时候我上中学,有个学校项目让我快崩溃了,感觉任务太大,根本完不成。
I was in middle school, and I was having some kind of meltdown about a school project that just felt too big and too overwhelming and that I was never gonna get it done.
我正崩溃的时候,我妈跟我说:希拉里,你怎么吃一头大象?
And in the middle of my freak out, my mom said to me, Hillary, how do you eat an elephant?
我当时就懵了,心想:啊?
And I was kind of like, what?
她这是在问什么?
What is she asking me?
我琢磨了一下,脱口而出:一口吞下去?
And I thought about it, and I was like, in a giant gulp?
她却说:不是。
And she was like, no.
一口一口来。
One bite at a time.
大家好。
Hi, friends.
我是乔纳森·卡布尔塔。
This is Jonathan Caburta.
我原本来自北卡罗来纳州的格林斯伯勒,已经在纽约住了十一年。
I'm originally from Greensboro, North Carolina, and I've lived in New York for eleven years.
我妈妈常挂在嘴边的一句话是:‘大声唱出来,露易丝。’
My mom's mantra, motto, expression was sing out, Louise.
不知道的人可能不清楚,这句话出自音乐剧《吉普赛》。
Which for those of you who don't know, is a famous line from the musical Gypsy.
我妈妈宝琳·卡布尔塔,简直就是《吉普赛》里妈妈罗斯的化身。
And my mother, Pauline Cabrda, was Mama Rose incarnate.
她就是那种充满生命力的人,走到哪儿哪儿就热闹起来。在她眼里,‘大声唱出来,露易丝’就是让你无论走到哪里都要让人注意到你的存在,做出明确的选择,然后义无反顾,活在当下。
She just was was a force of life and a tornado in every room she walked into, and sing out Louise meant to my mother to always let your presence be known in every room that you walk into, to make a choice, be specific in that choice, damn the torpedoes on whatever choice you did make, and to carpe diem.
你好。
Hi.
我叫菲比。
I'm Phoebe.
我来自康涅狄格州的费尔菲尔德。
I'm from Fairfield, Connecticut.
我家族里几代叙利亚女性都天生一副严肃、不苟言笑的表情。
I come from a long line of Syrian women who have intense, unfriendly, frowning faces.
别人第一次见我们,常常以为我们不喜欢他们。
And when people meet us, they tend to think we don't like them.
所以,我通常都会努力去改变这种印象。
And so, usually, this is something that I try to overcome.
但我妈妈总是一再提醒我们,我们有叙利亚人的表情,对付那些亏待过我们的人,或者需要为自己发声的时候,就用上它。
But my mom always, always, always reminds us that we have a Syrian look, and we can use it on anyone who has wronged us or whenever we need to stand up for ourselves.
要是有人在学校欺负我们,她就会说:给他来个叙利亚眼神。
If someone was being mean to us at school, she would say, give them the Syrian look.
她的意思是,斜眼瞪过去,甩个白眼,让对方知道你不好惹。
And she meant, cut your eyes to them, give them the stank eye, and let them know you can't be messed with.
我叫肖恩·斯塔瑟姆。
My name is Sean Statham.
我住在西雅图。
I live in Seattle.
我妈妈常说的一句话是:‘随遇而安吧。’
My mom's expression was roll with the cookie.
每当计划突然出岔子,她就需要我们五个孩子赶紧听话配合时,就会这么说。
And she would say this typically when the plans had suddenly gone awry, and she needed her five children to get in line in a hurry.
等我长大后才明白,她其实是把‘随遇而安’和‘事已至此,无可奈何’这两句话混在一起了。
And when I was older, I realized that this was her unintentional mashup of roll with the punches, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.
小时候我还以为每家人都这么说,后来才发现,这完全是咱们家的专属说法。
And when I was younger, I thought every family used it, and only later did I realize that it was unique to us.
你好。
Hi.
我是凯莉·奥格拉迪,来自曼哈顿。
I'm Carrie O'Grady, and I'm from Manhattan.
我妈妈的座右铭是:‘心里不痛快,外表也要漂亮。’
So my mom's mantra was if you feel bad, look better.
我和我妈完全是两种性格。
My mom and I are complete opposites.
她总是打扮得一丝不苟,而我从来不是。
She is always perfectly put together, and I am not.
我十几岁的时候,只要心情不好,不管是为男生、皮肤,还是生活本身,我第一反应就是躲回房间,钻进被窝,穿运动裤和睡衣,不化妆,顺手再吃点本和杰里的冰淇淋。
When I was a teenager, anytime I felt bad, whether it be over a boy or my skin or just life in general, my go to was wanting to hide in my room, in bed, sweatpants, PJs, no makeup, and probably Ben and Jerry's.
但妈妈总会进来,说:起来,换件好看的衣服,化个妆,心情自然就好了。
But my mom would come in, and she would say, get up, put on something cute, do your makeup, and you'll feel better.
那时候我觉得这简直烦透了。
And at the time, I found this insanely annoying.
说实话,现在我还是觉得烦。
And to be honest, I still do.
但如今我快四十三岁了,是一名教授。
But now, I'm almost 43, and I'm a professor.
我每周好几天通勤,单程将近四个半小时。
And I commute nearly four and a half hours to and from my university multiple days per week.
我整天泡在行李里,永远累得不行。
I live out of bags, and I'm perpetually exhausted.
但现在我打包时,总会多塞几样东西进去,比如斑马纹的衣物、镶满水钻的发带,或者一双高跟鞋。
But when I pack now, I find myself throwing in something a little extra, whether it be a zebra print or a bedazzled headband or some high heels.
连画眼线我都练得炉火纯青了
I've even perfected applying eyeliner
在
on the
彼得潘巴士上。
Peter Pan bus.
所以每当我到学校,有学生说‘你今天穿搭真好看’或者‘你今天气色真好’,我立刻就感觉精神多了,一整天都更有干劲。
So when I get to work and a student says to me, I love your outfit today or you look great today, I immediately feel more awake than I would otherwise, more ready to conquer my day.
虽然我还没打算承认我妈说得对,但不得不说,她确实有点道理。
And while I'm still not ready to say my mom was right, I'll admit that she was onto something.
你好。
Hi.
我叫尼桑。
My name is Nisan.
我来自纽约。
I'm from New York.
在新泽西长大的。
Grew up in New Jersey.
每次我们去购物,我总会挑点东西——蜡烛、首饰盒、破洞牛仔裤,反正什么都行。
And my mom's line, anytime we went shopping, I'd pick something up, a candle, a jewelry box, ripped jeans, literally anything.
她总会拿起来翻来覆去地看,停一会儿,然后准会说:这东西咱们自己能做,接着就把东西放回货架。
And she'd turn it over in her hands, pause, and without fail, say, we can make that, and then return the item to the shelf.
你好。
Hello.
我叫埃琳,来自加利福尼亚的欧文。
My name is Erin, and I'm from Irvine, California.
我妈妈最爱说的一句话是:草很快就会变成奶。
And one of my mom's favorite expressions is the grass will soon turn to milk.
你想想,一头牛在草地上吃草,草经过它复杂消化系统,最后就变成了牛奶。
If you think about a cow in a field of grass, the cow eats the grass, and then the grass goes through this labyrinthine digestive process and then becomes milk eventually.
对吧?
Right?
所以意思是,可能需要点时间,但你付出的努力最终会带来美好、美味的好结果——就像牛奶一样。
So it's this idea that it might take a while, but your hard work will pay off and result in this beautiful, delicious, good thing, the milk.
我妈妈生了十二个孩子,有很多座右铭。
My mom, as a mother of 12, had many mantras.
我最喜欢的一句是,哦,亲爱的,她有严重的独特症。
One of my favorite ones was, oh, honey, she suffers from terminal uniqueness.
一百年以后,谁会在乎这些差别呢?
A hundred years from now, who will know the difference?
如果拿不准,那就干脆别做。
If in doubt, do without.
天哪。
Oh, god.
谁管它呢?
Who cares?
我们正在经历一场冒险。
We're on an adventure.
不要嘲笑你所爱的人所热爱的东西。
Don't make fun of something that someone that you love loves.
你好。
Hi.
我叫安娜·柯蒂斯,来自加拿大阿尔伯塔省的埃德蒙顿。
My name is Anna Curtis, and I'm from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
我妈妈常说,寿衣的口袋再大也装不下任何东西——这话说得有点沉重,意思就是人走的时候什么都带不走。
My mother's saying, was there isn't a shroud with pockets big enough, which is a slightly more morbid way of saying you can't take it with you when you go.
我妈妈就是这样活着的。
That my mother lived that.
她通过不断冒险、探索来生活,不只是旅行意义上的冒险,更是人生中的各种经历,比如她如何养育六个孩子。
She lived that by having adventures, by going and exploring, by and not just adventures in terms of travel, but adventures in terms of things that she did with her life, the way she raised six children.
这一切都指向一个道理:生命属于当下,属于活着的你,你必须紧紧抓住它。
It all fell into this idea that life is for the now and you the living, and you you have to grab it.
我们生活中总是充满冒险。
And there was always an adventure in our lives.
比如我们曾经从曼尼托巴省的温尼伯出发,开着一辆大众甲壳虫,车顶绑着个帐篷,一路开上阿拉斯加的土路,直达北极圈。
Even things like we took an epic road trip from Winnipeg, Manitoba up to Circle Alaska on an unpaved Alaskan highway in a Volkswagen Beetle with nothing but a tent on the top.
这说明他们从不会因为没钱就退缩,说‘我们负担不起’。
And, you know, that's reflective of the fact that they didn't sit back and go, we haven't got enough money to go.
他们想的是,怎么才能把这事办成?
They just went, how do we make this happen?
怎么让冒险成为我们生活的一部分?
How do we have this adventure in our lives?
所以很多年前我母亲去世时,一分钱也没留下。
And so when my mother passed away many years ago, there wasn't any money left.
这没关系。
That's okay.
毕竟,寿衣上也没缝能装钱的口袋。
There wasn't a shroud with pockets big enough.
你好。
Hello.
我叫丹妮尔,住在加利福尼亚的阿拉莫。
My name is Danielle, and I live in Alamo, California.
我妈妈是个身材娇小、脾气火爆但特别温柔的西西里女人。
My mom is this tiny, fiery, extremely loving little Sicilian woman.
认识她的人,都会被她爱着、被她保护着。
To know her is to be loved by her and protected by her.
但要是你做了她觉得不对的事,她一定会让你知道。
But, oof, if you do something she thinks is not right, you will know it.
这很重要,因为她说过一句话,我一直记在心里:别人扔给你一个球,不代表你非得接。
This is important context for her mantra that has always stuck with me, which is just because someone throws you a football doesn't mean you have to catch it.
她的意思是,人生中总会有人给你反馈、批评,或者让你觉得自己不够好。
And what she means by that is that all through our lives, people will give you feedback or criticism or they'll make you feel bad about something.
你完全可以回一句‘谢谢你的意见’,然后放下它,因为那根本不是你的事。
And you can just say, thank you for the feedback and just not take it in because it wasn't yours.
嗨。
Hi.
我叫凯尔西,从小在印第安纳州的布卢明顿长大。
My name is Kelsey, and I grew up in Bloomington, Indiana.
我妈妈总说,有些事就是那样。
My mom always used to say some things just are.
最初,这个说法的由来是因为我小时候总爱追问原因。
Originally, the story behind it was I was a kid that just needed to know why.
为什么?
Why?
为什么?
Why?
为什么?
Why?
我猜,那时候我妈妈要应付那么多事,而我呢,我爸爸说一出生就带着辩论的基因——这话虽然有点粗俗,但确实如此。
And I imagine for a mom juggling all of the things that she was at that time and having a kid who my dad said came out of the chute litigating, that's a little crass.
但你知道,小时候总觉得自己能弄明白所有事情的原因。
But, you know, when you're younger, you always believe there's an answer for absolutely everything.
所以随着年纪增长,我就把它当成了一个精神支柱,经常提醒自己:有些事就是如此。
And so as I got older, I sort of just tapped into it kinda like a touchstone, and I would remind myself some things just are.
你好。
Hi.
我叫杰夫,住在阿肯色州的小石城。
I'm Jeff, and I live in Little Rock, Arkansas.
我妈妈常挂在嘴边的一句话是:如果你迷路了,随便哪条路都能到目的地。
My mother's mantra was if you're lost, any road will take you there.
我叫黛安·费尔孔。
My name is Diane Felcone.
我住在纽约州的扬克斯。
I live in Yonkers, New York.
我小时候经常听妈妈说:上帝会惩罚你。
Something I heard from my mom a lot when I was growing up was God punishes you.
你可能会想,为什么我妈妈会对我说这样的话?
And you might wonder why would your mom say that to you?
要理解这一点,得知道我妈妈是个虔诚的天主教徒。
For some context, my mom was a devout Catholic.
她一生中曾两次试图当修女。
She tried to become a nun twice in her life.
我父母在教区里非常活跃。
My parents were very active in their parish.
我们每个星期天都去教堂,那时候女人进教堂得戴头巾,我还真戴过那种小花边头罩。
We did church on Sundays, and I even wore that little doily on my head back when women had to wear that to church on Sundays.
所以在我们家,上帝是个特别重要的存在。
So God in my household was a big deal.
所以,如果有人不小心受了点小伤,比如撞到头、踢到脚趾,或者夹到手指,别人家的妈妈可能会问:‘你没事吧?’
So if someone were to have a minor injury, like they would bump their head or stub their toe or pinch a finger, instead of getting a response from my mom like, oh, are you okay?
可我妈妈却说:‘这是上帝在惩罚你。’那时候我还是个小孩,光是听到这话就吓得要命。
I would get, God punishes you, which for me, it was horrifying, first of all, because I I'm a tiny child.
我不明白自己做了什么惹怒了上帝。
I don't know what I did to piss off God.
但我觉得,我妈的意思是,你肯定做了什么才招来这事儿。
But I I feel like it was my mom's way of saying, well, you you must have done something to deserve that.
我没看见,所以上帝就惩罚你。
I didn't see it, so god punishes you.
我是来自华盛顿州波特安吉尔斯的凯,我妈妈常挂在嘴边的一句话是:这一切都会过去的。
I'm Kay from Port Angeles, Washington, and my mom's mantra was this too shall pass.
天哪。
Oh, boy.
我是不是特别讨厌听这句话?
Did I hate to hear that?
我十几岁的时候,她总这么说,也不知道我是抱怨了什么。
She'd say it when I was a teenager and I don't know if I was complaining or something.
说实话,听起来有点敷衍。
And, you know, honestly, it felt a little dismissive.
但现在我61岁了。
But now I'm 61 years old.
我有点明白了。
I kinda get it.
我真希望再听她对我说一次这句话。
And I would so love to hear her say that to me again.
妈妈,我想你。
I miss you, mom.
我们妈妈总说,雨水让人更美。
Our mother would say, rain makes you beautiful.
痛苦是可以选择的。
Misery is optional.
再糟的事,也还能更糟。
It's never so bad that it couldn't be worse.
她说我应该先学会爱自己。
She said that I should love myself first.
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再软的枕头也比不上问心无愧。
There's no pillow as soft as a clear conscience.
你好。
Hi.
我是艾米·马库斯,来自夏威夷凯鲁亚,现在住在旧金山湾区。
I'm Amy Marcus, and I'm from Kailua, Hawaii, living in the San Francisco Bay Area.
我妈妈常说的话里,最让我记住的是:别在深夜做重大决定。
My phrase that I remember my mom saying a lot, the one that sticks with me, is don't make big decisions late at night.
她以前总在电话里这么跟我说,那时候我在纽约州北部上大学,她还住在夏威夷。
And she used to say this to me on the phone when I would call her from college because she was still living in Hawaii, and I was Upstate New York.
我半夜打电话给她,那边才刚吃晚饭。
So I could call her late at night, and it would still be, you know, dinner time for her.
我一有焦虑、烦恼、压力,就找她聊一聊。
And I could call her with my anxieties, my worries, my stresses, whatever, just to chat.
我记得她总说:先去睡一觉,好好休息,别在深夜做决定。
And I remember her saying, just get some sleep, get some rest, don't make big decisions late at night.
现在我自己也当了父母,有个两岁的孩子,在怀孕和接下来的几年里,
And now as a parent to a two year old myself, these last few years of pregnancy and
新
new
我真的好想能给她打个电话。
parenthood, I really wish I could call her.
但我做不到,因为她是在2020年突然离世的。
And I can't because she passed away at the 2020 unexpectedly.
所以你知道,带孩子就是让你随时都得醒着,睡眠严重不足,半夜里可能还在网上搜婴儿睡眠训练的建议。
So, you know, parenting has you up at all hours, getting so little sleep, and you find yourself maybe googling sleep training advice for your baby in the middle of the night.
然后我就会听到妈妈的声音,她说,不行。
And then I would hear my mom's voice, and she would say, no.
现在别做这个决定。
Don't don't do this right now.
去睡觉吧。
Go to sleep.
去休息一下吧。
Get some rest.
等你休息好了,头脑更清醒了,再做这个决定。
Make this decision when you're feeling a little more rested and can think a little more clearly.
你好。
Hey.
我是来自威斯康星州麦迪逊的莎拉。
This is Sarah from Madison, Wisconsin.
我妈妈常说的话是:光想不干,白搭。
And one of my mom's favorite expressions was if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.
小时候,我记得她总在各种看似不相关的情境下这么说。
As a kid, I remember her using it in seemingly unrelated situations.
你知道的。
You know?
比如家庭聚餐时,有人会叹气说:哎呀,真该把蛋黄酱带上。
Like, at a family potluck, someone would say, ugh, I wish we had remembered the mayonnaise.
我妈妈就会说,要是愿望能变成马,那乞丐就都能骑马了。
And my mom would say, well, if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.
特别让人摸不着头脑。
Totally confusing.
比如,我真希望当初能考上那所大学。
To things like, I wish I had gotten into that college.
要是愿望能变成马,那乞丐就都能骑马了。
If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.
我一直没当回事,因为压根不知道她这话到底啥意思。
And I kinda just always blew it off because I'm like, I have no idea what you mean by that.
但几年前,我妈妈被确诊为晚期癌症,那一刻我忽然懂了她想说什么。
But a few years ago, my mom received a terminal cancer diagnosis, and I think I finally knew what she meant.
生活总会突然扔给你一些不想面对的事,你根本不想接受,也拼命希望它没发生过——我就这么想过。
Because life throws stuff at us, And you didn't want it, and you can wish it wasn't happening, and I did.
但光靠想,一点用都没有。
But that doesn't get you very far.
我每天都会想念妈妈,但能拥有她和她那些看似荒唐却深深帮助我学会在没有她的情况下生活的格言,我真的很感恩。
I miss my mom every day, but I'm so grateful to have had her and all of her seemingly crazy sayings that have done so much to help me navigate life without her.
你好。
Hi there.
我叫罗斯玛丽·罗。
My name is Rosemary Rowe.
我住在加拿大不列颠哥伦比亚省温哥华岛上的一座叫萨尼申的小城。
I live in Sanishton, British Columbia on Vancouver Island in Canada.
我一想到我了不起的妈妈,就会想起一句话:你是一个人,而不是一个做事的机器。
And an expression that I associate with my awesome mom is, you're a human being, not a human doing.
意思是,单单存在本身就已经足够了。
As in just being is enough.
不过我得说,这话从我妈妈嘴里说出来,多少有点讽刺,因为她本人就是那种精力旺盛、成就满满、一刻不停的人。
Now I have to say, this was always a bit rich coming from my mom, who's a very energetic, accomplished, go go go kind of person.
大约四十岁的时候,我妈妈经历了一段非常深刻的心理蜕变与康复历程。
When, she was about 40, my mom went through a very, like, intense personal psychological journey of breakthrough and recovery.
她最后换了职业。
And she ended up switching careers.
她拿到了博士学位。
She got her PhD.
她成了一名心理学家。
She became a psychologist.
但就是那段时间,刚开始的时候,她开始对我和我弟弟说:你是一个人,而不是一个做事的机器。
But it was around this time, those early days, when she started saying to my brother and I, you're a human being, not a human doing.
随着时间推移,这句话就一直留在了我们心里。
And as the years went by, that expression really stuck around.
说起来,我觉得现在真是个很好的契机,因为我妈妈已经七十多岁了,最近刚做完一次严重的心脏手术。
Anyway, I feel like this is a great full circle opportunity for me because my mom is in her seventies now, and she's recently had a serious heart surgery.
她对康复的速度有点着急,毕竟她还是那个精力充沛、成就满满、停不下来的人。
And she's been a bit frustrated by the pace of her recovery because she's still a very energetic, accomplished, go, go, go kind of person.
所以我特别想趁这个机会告诉她:妈,你是个活生生的人,不是一台不停运转的机器。
So I just want to take this opportunity to remind her that mom, mom, you're a human being, not a human doing.
我们马上回来。
We'll be right back.
好的,妈妈。
Okay, mom.
对。
Yeah.
所以我们听了一大堆其他妈妈的智慧,是的。
So now that we've listened to a whole lot of wisdom from other moms Mhmm.
妈妈,你对未来的妈妈们有什么建议吗?
Mom, do you have any advice for future moms?
天哪。
Oh, Jesus.
你以前总跟我说过一句当父母的座右铭。
There's a mantra that you've said to me about being a parent.
你还记得那句话是什么吗?
I wonder if you remember what it is.
是的。
Yeah.
我来说吧。
Me tell
好的。
Okay.
当你有了孩子,你只能尽自己最大的努力,然后祈祷孩子将来能原谅你。
When you have kids, you do the best job that you can, and then you pray that they forgive you.
哦,没错。
Oh, that's yeah.
我很想知道这句话是从哪儿来的。
I'm curious where it came from.
哦,那是我自己的经历搞砸了。
Oh, that was messed my own.
所以,好吧。
So okay.
所以我想对妈妈们说,我们都尽自己所能,用我们拥有的去做好这件事。
So my advice for for mothers is that we all do the best we can with what we have.
这是世界上最难的工作,每个人都在怀疑自己做得够不够好。
It's the hardest job in the world, and we're all second guessing ourselves.
我们做了太多太多选择,但归根结底,就是尽力而为。
And and we make so many, so many choices, and and you just do the best you can.
然后你只希望孩子将来能原谅你,而你做的一切都是出于爱。
And and you just hope your kids forgive you and you do everything with love.
即使你对他们语气不好,心情不好,你依然是在用自己所有的一切尽力而为,你只管祈祷,只管爱他们。
And even when you're short with them and you're you're upset, you're still doing the best you can with what you have and and you just pray and you just love them.
真美啊,妈妈。
That's beautiful, mom.
是吗?
It is?
开心
Happy
母亲节快乐,妈妈。
Mother's Day, mom.
天哪。
Oh my god.
母亲节快乐,宝贝。
Happy Mother's Day, honey.
我爱你。
I love you.
我也爱你。
You too.
我也爱你,宝贝。
I love you too, honey.
好。
Okay.
现在我得去休息一下了。
Now I have to go recover.
好。
Okay.
谢谢,亲爱的。
Thanks, dear.
好。
Okay.
再见。
Bye
再见。
bye.
再见。
Bye.
感谢所有给我们发送语音留言的听众。
Thank you to all the listeners who sent us voice memos.
我们收到的远超能放下的数量,但你们的妈妈们说的话都特别精彩,我们听得很开心。
We got more than we could possibly include, but you all have very quotable moms, and we enjoyed listening to all of them.
本期节目由蒂娜·安塔利尼制作,温迪·多尔负责剪辑,达莉亚·哈达德提供制作协助。
Today's episode was produced by Tina Antalini and was edited by Wendy Doerr with production assistance from Dalia Haddad.
节目中使用的音乐来自帕特·麦卡斯基尔、马里昂·洛萨诺、丹·鲍威尔和利娅·肖·达梅隆。
It contains music by Pat McCusker, Marion Lozano, Dan Powell, and Leah Shaw Dameron.
音频工程由罗文·内米斯托负责。
It was engineered by Rowan Nemisto.
特别感谢凯瑟琳·皮尔森和梅洛尼丝·麦凯菲。
Special thanks to Catherine Pearson and Melonise McAfee.
以上就是《每日新闻》的全部内容。
That's it for The Daily.
我是蕾切尔·阿布拉姆斯。
I'm Rachel Abrams.
明天见。
See you tomorrow.
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