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不会的，会发生的。

No, it'll happen.

会发生的。

It'll happen.

随着你越来越成功，这件事对你来说是不是越来越重要？

Does it matter increasingly as you become more successful to you?

你越往前走，是不是想得越多？

Do you think more about it and as you go further?

是的，成名之后很难信任别人……

Yeah, it's hard to trust after you become...

我觉得刚开始有点成功的时候，信任别人并不难。

I think when you're kind of successful at the beginning, it's not hard to trust.

你就会想，'嘿，她喜欢我是因为我这个人，但她也可能因为我是这个名人而喜欢我。'

You're just like, "Yo, she likes me for me, but also she can still like me for this celebrity I am."

大概一半一半吧。

And it's kind of 50/50.

但随着你越来越成功，你心里会有这种疑虑，比如她可能完全只是爱上了Druski这个身份，而不是Drew本人。

But as you become more and more successful, you have this doubt in your mind, like this could absolutely be her in love with just Druski and not Drew at all.

这会不会只是你回避型依恋的一个方便借口？

Is that just a convenient excuse for the whole avoidant-

不，不，不。我是认真的。

No. No, no. I'm serious.

我保证。

I promise.

我敢保证，每个超级明星心里都有这个问题。

It's a question in every superstar's mind, I guarantee you.

即使他们和某人完全在一起了，他们心里还是会有一个疑问：这个人是不是只爱我这个超级明星的身份？

Even when they are with somebody fully, they still have a question in the back of their mind, does this person just love the superstar of me?

这太有意思了。

That's so interesting.

这确实会困扰那些非常成功的人，因为你会看到所有人都在尖叫、追着你，你有一场演出或者见面会，你会看到人们对你的反应，或者你走在街上，你会希望和你约会的那个人也是真诚的，就像那些粉丝一样。

And it does bother somebody who is super successful because you see all these people will scream and chase you, and you have a show or maybe a meet and greet, and you see how people react to you, or you go on the street, and you want to believe that this person that you're dating also is genuine, like how these fans are.

就像，"嘿，好吧，也许她就是喜欢我这个人。"

Like, "Yo, okay, maybe she just loves me for me.

也许这不是那种粉丝只喜欢我这个明星的感觉。

Maybe this is not kind of like how the fans just love me for that."

你希望她相信这是同样真实的东西。

You want her to believe that this is the same type of real thing.

但看到这一切之后，很难相信，你只认识我这个明星身份。

But it's hard to believe after you see all of this stuff, you only know me for that.

你没见过我在家跟我妈住一起，穷得只能躺沙发上的样子。

You didn't meet me when I was just at home, living with my mom, broke on the sofa.

你懂我的意思吗？

You know what I'm saying?

你没见过我真实的一面。

You didn't see the real side of who I actually am.

如果你明白我在说什么的话。

If you get what I'm saying.

当然。

Of course.

你看到的是新的性格——

You see the new personality-

可以说是吧。

... so to say.

这很难。

It's tough.

在外面混真的不容易，兄弟。

It's tough out here, man.

本来可能是爱情。

Could've been love.

本来可能是爱情。

Could've been love.

本来可能是爱情。

Could've been love.

靠。

Fuck.

所以你去上大学了。

So you go off to college.

你坚持了多久？是不是两个学期就退学了？

And you last, was it two semesters before you dropped out?

不是，我一开始上的学校在我长大的格温内特县。

No, I started at a school that was in Gwinnett County, where I grew up.

我在那儿待了大概一年，然后又上了半个学期，攒够了学分就转学了。

So I spent like a year and then another half of a semester there, and I got enough credits to transfer.

因为当时我就想：“好吧，我得离开这儿。”

Because I was like, "Okay, I've got to get out of here.

我知道我的人生不止于此。”

I know my life is bigger than this."

而且那时候，我并没有想：“哦，我想成为超级明星。”

And also, at the time, I wasn't thinking, "Oh, I want to be a superstar."

我当时只是想体验一下真正的大学生活。

I was just thinking I wanted a real college experience.

我想去一所四年制大学。

I wanted to go to a four-year college.

我高中时的成绩不够，没法直接去。

I didn't have the grades to do it in high school and go straight there.

我想在大学里找到办法实现这个目标。

I want to find a way to do it in college.

所以当我后来去了乔治亚南方大学，我只是想找到大学的氛围，比如，这里的感觉怎么样？

So I think when I went to Georgia Southern as the school following that, I just wanted to find the college ecosystem of like, what's the vibe here?

哦，那就去派对。

Oh, let's party.

就这么干。

Let's do this.

但我一到那儿，并没有马上找到那种感觉。

And I didn't find that as soon as I got there.

就好像我到了那里之后，并没有立刻感受到那种“这就是大学”的感觉，跟我原来想的不一样。

It's almost like I didn't get the immediate this is college like I thought I would get after I got there.

然后我就陷入了深深的抑郁，因为我有两个认识的人也去了那所学校，你知道的，同一个县的人嘛。

And I went into a deep depression because I had two guys that I knew went to the school from, like you know somebody from your county, of course.

我当时就想，“哦，好吧。

And I was like, "Oh, okay.

我会跟他联系上的。

I'll link up with him.

他会是个很好的朋友，陪我一起经历这所新学校的一切。”

He'll be a great friend to be along with on this ride of whatever this new school is."

我试着去联系他们，但不知怎么的，每次联系他们都特别麻烦。

And I would try to link up with them, and for some reason, it always was a hassle for me to link up with them.

他们总是会说，“哦，我们总是得去接你。

They always would be like, "Oh, we always got to pick you up.

你又没有车。”

You don't have a car."

我就说，'没事，我打个车过去找你们。'

And I'm like, "No, I'll get an Uber to y'all."

'如果你连进场的钱都没有，那来了也没意思，因为我们可没法替你出钱。'

"Well, if you don't have any money to get into the game, there's no point in coming because we can't pay for you."

或者，'我想跟你们一起去派对。'

Or, "I want to come to the party with y'all."

'哦，那你穿的就是打球那双鞋。'

"Oh, well, you have the same shoes that you hoop in.

'我们干嘛要带你去？'

Why would we bring you?"

他们总是开这种玩笑，可能让我觉得自己不配跟他们待在一起吧。

They would always have jokes about, maybe I felt like I wasn't deserving enough to be around them, so to say.

而且我生平第一次感到非常沮丧。

And I felt almost, for the first time in my life, very depressed.

这让我挺难受的，因为在这所新学校，我开始连课都不去上了。

And that kind of bothered me because I started to just not even go to classes anymore at this new school.

我就一直待在宿舍里。

I was just staying in my dorm room.

所以后来我连课都不去上了。

So I went to not even going to class anymore.

在那所学校整个第二学期，我都没去上课，一节课都没上。

I stopped going to classes for the whole second semester of being at that school, no classes.

就坐在房间里，一直坐着发呆。

Sat in my room and would just sit and think.

我给家里的朋友打电话。

I'm calling my friends back at home.

他们也没在做什么，所以我有点不想回家，因为我想：“天哪，他们什么都没干。”

They're not doing nothing, so I kind of didn't want to go home because I'm like, "Damn, they're not doing shit.

我不想回去。

I'm not going to go back."

但话说回来，我在这里到底在干什么呢？

But also, what am I doing here?

我在这里也没做什么。

I'm not doing anything here either.

我的人生目标是什么？

What is my purpose in life?

所以坐在那里，又沮丧又难过，看着镜子里的自己，我开始想明白，我心想：“天哪，我到底想做什么？”

So sitting in there and being depressed and sad and looking at myself in the mirror, I started to figure out, I'm like, "Damn, what do I really want to do in life?

这一切真的有意义吗？

Does any of this really make sense?"

我学的是体育新闻，但我知道我想上电视。

I'm here for sports journalism, but I know I want to be on TV.

我选体育新闻，可能是想当ESPN的体育主播，就为了让我的脸出现在电视上。

I took sports journalism to be maybe an ESPN sportscast, just to get my face on TV.

我当时不知道。

I didn't know.

我心想：“也许我想做那个。”

I was like, "Maybe I want to do that.

听起来挺酷的。

It sounds cool."

但随着我继续深入，算是自我探索吧，就是坐在房间里想自己到底想做什么。

But as I continued to do more, I guess, soul searching, so to say, just sitting in the room and thinking about what I want to do.

我会坐着看史蒂夫·哈维的访谈，问的是你这辈子到底想做什么。

I would sit and watch Steve Harvey interviews on what is it do you want to do in your life?

从山顶跳下来，冒一次险。

Jump off a mountaintop and take a risk.

然后我会看所有那些视频，那些我崇拜的人，比如凯文·哈特，我开始琢磨，心想：“好吧，我的目标是什么？”

And I would watch all these videos of everything, of people I looked up to, Kevin Hart, and I started to figure out, I was like, "Okay, what's my purpose?

这些人是我崇拜的，但我到底想做什么呢？

These are the people I look up to, but what exactly do I want to do?"

随着我继续探索，我开始明白，哇，我觉得我崇拜的那些人都是喜剧传奇。

And as I continued to do more searching, I started to figure out, okay, wow, I think all the people I look up to are all comedic legends.

我在看威尔·法瑞尔的东西，还有克里斯·法利。

I'm watching Will Ferrell stuff, Chris Farley.

这些人是我心目中的英雄。

These are guys that I find as my heroes.

我觉得我从小到大在每个教室都是那个搞笑的人，不管做什么，包括体育，我甚至因为太搞笑被踢出了橄榄球队。

I think since I've always been the funny guy in every classroom, everything I've done, sports, I get kicked off the football team for being funny.

这一切都是因为我是个喜剧演员。

All this stuff is because I am a comedian.

我几乎觉得自己像个傻瓜，因为我想：'天哪，我坐在大学里。'

And it was almost like I felt like an idiot because I'm like, "Damn, I'm sitting over here in college.

这就是我的使命。

That is my purpose.

就是它了。

This is it."

我对他们的认同感，超过了我这辈子对任何事物的认同感。

I feel more connected to them than I've ever felt to anything I've ever felt in my life.

为什么？

Why?

他们在凯文·哈特采访里说的话，他在史蒂夫·哈维采访里说的话，威尔·法瑞尔会说的，或者克里斯·法利会说的，或者金·凯瑞会说的，我觉得更贴近这些，因为他们也觉得自己有需要、有使命去成为喜剧界的英雄。

The things they would say in a Kevin Hart interview, the things he would say in a Steve Harvey interview, the things Will Ferrell would say, or Chris Farley would say, or Jim Carrey, I felt more attached to it because they also felt a need and a purpose to become a hero of comedy.

我不知道。

I don't know.

听起来挺傻的，因为当你告诉父母“哦，我想当喜剧演员”时，他们会说“哦，你基本上就是个丑角，我猜。”

It sounds dumb because when you tell your parents, "Oh, I want to be a comedian," they're like, "Oh, you're basically a clown, I guess.

然后你会去开始做单口喜剧演出，也许你成功了，也许你没有。

And you'll go start doing stand-up rooms and maybe you make it, maybe you don't."

告诉别人或者家乡的朋友“哦，我要当喜剧演员”听起来有点傻。

It sounds kind of silly telling people or your hometown friends, "Oh, I'm going to be a comedian."

但随着我继续对我想做的一切做越来越多的研究，我开始明白，好吧，这就是我的使命。

But as I continued to do more and more research on everything I wanted to do, I started to figure out, okay, this is my purpose.

而且一直都是。

And it always has been.

我看到我小时候的这些视频。

And I see these videos of me as a kid.

我回忆起早期这些事情的点点滴滴。

I'm remembering memories of all this stuff early on.

就是这样。

This is it.

那时候我突然有了，我不知道该怎么形容，就像顿悟一样。

And that's when I just had, I don't know what they would call it, like epiphany .

对，那对我来说是职业生涯的一个重大转折。

But yeah, that was a big change for me in my career.

其实不只是职业生涯，在刚开始的阶段就是如此。

Well, not even my career, at the beginning processes.

当你说“我抑郁了”的时候，这个词对不同的人可能意味着很多不同的东西。

When you say, "I was depressed," that word can mean lots of things to lots of people.

确实。

For sure.

在你生命中的那个时刻，对你来说它意味着什么？

What does it mean in your definition in that moment of your life?

如果我是墙上的苍蝇，或者就在房间里，但同时也钻进你的脑子里，那时候我会听到什么，看到什么呢？

If I was a fly on the wall or just in the room, but also if I was inside your head at that time, what would I hear and what would I see if I was a fly on the wall?

我觉得你只会看到我坐在那儿，一脸迷茫，兄弟。

I think you would just see me in there confused, man.

我会在房间里一坐就是好几个小时。

I would sit in my room for hours.

我会坐在那儿打2K。

I would sit there and play 2K.

我会坐在那儿听音乐，一听就是几个小时。

I would sit there and play music for hours.

其实我什么都没干。

I wasn't really doing anything.

在那所学校我一个朋友都没有。

I had no friends at that school.

我会走到街角的小店去。

I would walk to the corner store.

我妈会给我寄20美元。

My mom will send me $20.

我会尽量买够东西，好让自己待在房间里，不用出去跟这所大学校里的那些人打交道。

I'll buy as much as I could get to be able to stay in the room and not go out and socialize with all these people at this huge school.

我会尽量多买些吃的，然后回到房间待着。

I would get as much food as I could get at the time to go back and just be in the room.

那时候我就知道了。

And that's when I knew.

我当时想：'天哪，我真的陷入了一种这辈子从未有过的状态。'

I was like, "Yo, I'm really in a state I've never been in in my life."

想想看，我习惯了高中时的自己，那时候我是班上的活宝。

Imagine, I'm used to being out of high school where I was known as the class clown.

我家里的任何人都知道我是那种能给房间带来温暖、逗大家笑、总是充满正能量的人。

Anybody in my family knows me to be the guy that brings the warmth to the room and to make everybody laugh, and he's always bringing good energy.

可现在我却坐在这里，几乎是在逃避社会，对自己非常消沉。

To now I'm sitting here almost hiding away from society and very dark on myself.

我对自己想做的每件事都特别苛刻。

I'm very hard on myself about everything that I want to do.

我花了好一阵子才明白那是什么。

It took a while for me to understand what it was.

我觉得我去YouTube上研究那些成功人士，开始把那些让我受启发的人列出来，结果发现他们每一个都是喜剧演员。

I think me going on YouTube and trying to research successful people, I started to line up the people that I found inspiring, and every single one of them were all comedians.

我对他们每一个人的感觉，比我这辈子对任何其他人的感觉都要亲近。

I felt more attached to every single one of them than I've ever felt attached to anybody else in my life.

有意思的是，你从小就是个喜剧演员。

It's funny because through your childhood, you're a comedian.

从我看过的那些视频里就能看出来。

Clearly, from all the videos that I've seen.

人们觉得喜剧演员是在付出。

And people think of comedians as giving.

你让我们笑。

You make us laugh.

但显然，你从中也得到了些什么。

But obviously, you get something from that, too.

当然。

For sure.

然后突然你就在这个房间里，不再得到那种东西了。

And then suddenly you're in this room, and you're no longer getting that thing.

不管那是什么。

Whatever it is.

当然。

For sure.

那是什么东西？

What is that thing?

我小时候就意识到这一点了。

I knew that was a thing early on when I was a kid.

我小学放学回家后，会跟自己对话，问自己：“今天我让全班笑了吗？”

I would have these conversations with myself at home after elementary of, "Did I make the class laugh today?"

为什么我这么喜欢炫耀这件事呢？

And why does that feel so good to me to brag about?

或者我会问其他同学：“你们觉得班上谁最搞笑？”

Or I would ask other students, "Who's the funniest to you in this class?"

或者：“咱们年级谁最搞笑？”

Or, "Who's the funniest in our grade?"

我真的会去问他们。

And I would really ask them.

我会说：“你为什么觉得他搞笑？”

I was like, "Why do you feel like he's funny?

为什么迈基比我搞笑？

Why is Mikey funnier than me?

告诉我为什么。”

Tell me why."

这就像是我心里的一场没人知道的比赛，但它就在我心里，你懂我的意思吗？

And it was almost like a competition in my head that nobody knew about, but it was in me, you know what I'm saying?

我觉得如果他们跟我说‘哦，当然啦，你是咱们年级最搞笑的人，这还用说嘛’，那对我来说意义重大。

I felt like it meant something if they told me, "Oh, of course, you're the funniest guy in our grade, duh."

那你会有什么感觉？

And how would that make you feel?

那会让我觉得自己很成功。

That made me feel successful.

感觉就像我赢得了学校的马克·吐温奖一样。

It felt like I won the Mark Twain Award of the school.

对我来说，那就像小时候的奥斯卡奖，如果有人对我说‘天哪，你是全校最搞笑的’，那就是至高无上的荣誉。

That is the Oscar for me at a young age if somebody to be, "Oh, my God, you're the funniest at this school."

我觉得有意思的是，通常——

I think it's interesting often that-

……你的天性显然是个喜剧演员，但是——

... your nature was clearly you're a comedian, but-

……但孩子们并不会被教导说这可以成为一种职业。

... that's not a career that kids are taught about.

他们被教导的，就像你说的，像你爸说的，比如“去把命豁出去”之类的。

They're taught about, like you said, like your dad said, like, "Go get your ass blown off," and all these other things.

但他们却——

But they'd-

找个手艺活儿。

Find a trade.

找个手艺活儿，对。

Find a trade, yeah.

但除非有人给你一个词来形容，否则有时候你不会有那种顿悟。

But until you're given a word for it, sometimes you don't have that epiphany.

我当企业家的时候也有这种感觉。

I thought that about being an entrepreneur.

我直到19岁才知道那是个职业，而那时候我已经在做了。

I didn't know it was a thing until I was 19, and I was already doing it.

然后我听到了这个词，有人赋予了它意义，我就想：“哦，这还能当工作来做？”

And then I heard the word, and someone gave it meaning, and was like, "Oh, that's a thing you can do as a job?"

然后突然之间，眼界就打开了。

And then suddenly, mind expansion.

你知道那是什么吗？

You know what it was?

我一直都知道喜剧是个正经事儿。

I always knew that comedy was a thing.

但我不知道自己会那么投入去做。

I didn't know that I wanted to do it as bad as I was doing it.

我一直在看。

I was always watching it.

我一直在看。

I always watched.

我妈会给我们看《生动的颜色》，还有像《关于鲍勃》这样的电影。

My mom would show us "In Living Color," movies like "What About Bob?"

很早就开始了。

early on.

我爸总是看《查普尔秀》，我就想偷偷看，因为那个片子是限制级的。小孩子心里就会想，哎呀，这个你不能看。

My dad would always have the "Chappelle's Show" on, and I would try to sneak and watch that because that was very much rated R. In the kids' mind, they'd be like, "Oh, you can't watch this stuff.

上楼去。

Get upstairs."

我还是会偷偷躲在楼梯后面看，心里想，天哪，这也太搞笑了。

And I would still try to sneak behind the stairs and look like, "Oh, my God, that's so funny."

我还会在学校里试着讲那些从戴夫·查普尔或者《布兰克曼》里听来的笑话。

And I would try to say these jokes back at school that I hear Dave Chappelle saying, or Blankman.

他就像《活色生香》里那个坐轮椅的角色，后来还拍成了电影，他们搞了个叫《布兰克》的东西。

He was like a guy in a wheelchair from "In Living Color" that ended up becoming a movie, and they made this whole thing called Blank.

但事实是，这些一直就在我眼前，我一直都是个喜剧迷。

But the fact of the matter is that it was always in front of me, and I always was a big fan of comedy.

我只是不知道，我妈妈其实也受了影响。

I just didn't know that my mom sort of say was influenced.

我说我妈妈，是因为她总是把这些东西放在我们面前，因为她想给我们最好的，但她就像个跷跷板，把一切都平衡好。

And I say my mom because she would always put this stuff in front of us because she wanted the best for us, but she was almost like the seesaw to level everything out.

如果我爸那边出了什么不好的事，我妈总会出来平衡一下。

If something bad happens with my dad, my mom was always there to level it out.

她总是会过来跟他说，比如‘大卫，你太过分了。’

She was the one that would come in and tell him, like, "David, that's too much."

有时候他会冲她吼，说‘滚出去。’

And sometimes he would bark at her and be like, "Get the fuck out of here.

这些孩子将来是要成为男人的。

These boys are going to end up being men.

他们现在就得学会这些。’

They need to learn this now."

但她总有她的名言或者好话，比如‘继续相信自己。’

But she always had quotes or good things she would always say, like, "Just continue to believe in yourself.

继续明白这一点。’

Continue to know this."

所以，我妈一直坚信任何事情都能做大。

So, my mom was always a big believer in anything becoming big.

是的，所以我得好好感谢她。

Yeah, so I got to give her a lot for that.

你可能觉得，前奈斯派索总裁要转投一家新咖啡公司，应该挺难的。

You'd think the former president of Nespresso would be a pretty hard person to convert to a new coffee company.

但他只尝了一口Cometeer咖啡，就决定投资了。

But just one sip of Cometeer coffee made him invest.

不过，让我告诉你我为什么成了投资人。

But let me tell you the reason why I became an investor.

当时，一大箱这东西送到了我在伦敦办公室的桌上，大概一个半小时后，我们的Slack频道就炸了，大家都在问：“厨房里那玩意儿到底是什么？太不可思议了。”

So, I had a big box of this arrive on my desk in the London office, and then I'd say within about an hour and a half, the Slack channel that we have starts blowing up with people asking, "What the hell is that thing that's been left in the kitchen?

太不可思议了。

It is unbelievable."

他们不是在你自己在家做咖啡时去平衡口味，而是在最佳时刻瞬间冷冻。

So, instead of trying to make it yourself at home and balance the flavors, they flash freeze it at the perfect moment.

所以，你只需要把它从盒子里拿出来，放进杯子，倒上热水，味道绝对是你从未尝过的。

So, all you have to do is pop it out of here, into a cup, pour hot water on it, and it tastes like nothing you've tasted before.

你也可以做出美味的冰咖啡饮品。

You can also make delicious iced coffee drinks as well.

直接倒进去就行。

Just pour it in.

不需要机器，不需要用塑料冲泡那些乱七八糟的东西。

No machine, no brewing with plastic and all that nasty stuff.

而且今天在cometeer.com/stephen下单，首单可以立减30美元。

And you can get $30 off your first order at cometeer.com/stephen today.

网址是cometeer.com/stephen。

That's cometeer.com/stephen.

我和一位非常成功的创始人共进午餐。

I went to lunch with a very successful founder.

他跟我讲了他的愿景，说未来你的床垫能检查你的全身。

He told me about this vision where in the future your mattress will be able to check your entire body.

他就是一个叫Eight Sleep的品牌的创始人，说实话，这个品牌改变了我的生活。

He is the founder of a brand called Eight Sleep, and it's a brand that has quite frankly changed my life.

我和我的未婚妻梅兰妮，我们的睡眠习惯很不一样。

Me and my fiancée, Melanie, we have very different sleeping habits.

她喜欢床稍微凉一点。

She likes the bed to be a little bit colder.

我喜欢稍微热一点，所以这常常会引起一点小争执，直到我们发现了Eight Sleep。

I like it to be a little bit hotter, and so that often causes a little bit of an argument until we discovered Eight Sleep.

Eight Sleep Pod 6是一个床垫罩，铺在床垫上面，睡觉时能调节整张床的温度。

The Eight Sleep Pod 6 is this mattress cover that sits on top of your mattress, and it regulates your entire bed while you sleep.

所以，我的未婚妻梅尔可以把她那边调到她想要的冷度，而它知道我这边有不同的偏好。

So, my fiancée, Mel, can have it as cold as she wants on her side, and it knows that I have a different preference on my side.

如果梅尔起得早，她那边可以通过缓慢震动和加热来唤醒她，这样她醒来时我还在睡。

If Mel's getting up earlier, her side can wake her up by sort of slowly vibrating and heating up so that she wakes up while I stay asleep.

Pod 6现在比之前的Pod快20%提供温度调节，而且集线器小了50%。

And Pod 6 now delivers temperature relief 20% faster than the previous Pod with a 50% smaller hub.

我和创始人马特奥谈过，他给了我一个优惠码，现在他赞助这个播客，让我分享给你，使用这个码购买新的Pod 6最高可以优惠200美元。

And I spoke to Matteo, the founder, and he has given me a code to give to you now that he sponsors this podcast, which will allow you to get up to $200 off the new Pod 6.

用我的代码Stephen，去eightsleep.com/stephen。

Use my code Stephen at eightsleep.com/stephen.

你有30天试用期，如果不喜欢，可以退货。

You'll get 30 days to try it, and if you don't like it, you can return it.

但我相信你会喜欢的。

But I'm confident that you will.

所以你去上了大学。

So you went off to university.

你发现了那些很棒的喜剧演员。

You discovered these great comedians.

你发现了，你提到史蒂夫·哈维，他现在大概69岁了。

You discovered, you said Steve Harvey, who's, I think he's 69 years old now.

他是美国喜剧演员、电视主持人，也是单口喜剧演员。

He's an American comedian and TV host, stand-up comic as well.

然后——

And so-

喜剧之王之一。

One of the kings of comedy.

他是你喜剧界的偶像之一吗？

One of your idols in comedy?

对，当然。

Yeah, for sure.

绝对的。

Hell yeah.

他当时具体说了什么，让你印象特别深，真的在那个时刻推动了你？

What was it that he said in particular that you recall that really sort of pushed you forward in that moment?

我记得他有一个视频，讲的是要敢于冒险，直接跳下去，他说要相信自己的直觉，勇敢地跳出去。

I remember he had a video that talked about just taking a risk and just jumping, and he spoke on just take the leap of faith and just jump.

别再想太多了。

Stop overthinking everything.

不冒险，什么都不会发生。

Nothing happens without taking this risk.

而且我记得他在那些视频里还说过，如果你相信你的生活还有更多可能，那就一定有。如果你脑子里一直冒出那个愿景，那就说明它真的会在你的生活里出现。

And I knew he continued to say something in these videos of, if you believe there's something more to your life, there is If you have that vision that keeps popping up in your head, that means that very much so is in your life.

我就一直听他这么说，然后我把视频倒回去。

And I just kept hearing him say that, and I played the video back.

又倒回去看了一遍。

Played the video back again.

再倒回去看。

Played the video back.

我当时就想，"天哪，这到底怎么回事？"

I'm like, "Damn, what the hell?"

因为我一直有那种感觉。

Because I kept feeling that feeling.

我就想，"我的生活绝不只是现在这样，"我心里很清楚。

I'm like, "There's more to my life than what it is right now," and I knew it.

我内心深处一直有个声音说，"我知道，我知道，我知道。"

In the back of my head, I was like, "I know it, I know it, I know it.

这比我现在感受到的还要多。

There's more to this than what I feel."

它就在我脑海深处——这就是我看他视频时产生共鸣的地方。

It's in the back of my-- And that's what resonated with me from the video that I watched on him.

那真是改变人生的经历。

It was life-changing.

我跟史蒂夫聊过了。

I spoke to Steve.

天哪。

Oh, man.

你要给我看什么，兄弟？

What are you about to show me, man?

他也想给你发个小视频留言。

He wanted to send you a little video message as well.

嘿，最近怎么样，德鲁斯基？

Hey, what's happening, Druski?

嘿，哥们，我听说他们在为你搞点什么，所以我想上来说两句，给你点大大的支持，告诉你，我关注你很久了——

Hey, look, man, I heard they was doing something for you, so I wanted to jump on here, man, and just give you some big ups, man, let you know, man, I've been watching you for a while-

哇

Wow

……一直在远处看着你。

... from a distance, man.

我们只聊过一次，但说真的，我觉得你很特别。

We've only spoken once, but look, man, I think you're special.

你有天赋，兄弟。

You got a gift, man.

你真的非常非常特别。

You're really, really special.

而这种特别，也伴随着责任。

And with that specialness, man, comes some responsibility.

所以，小心点，兄弟。

And so just be careful, man.

记住你妈妈和你奶奶跟你说的每一句话，因为你以后全都用得上。

Remember everything your mom and your grandmomma told you, because you're going to need all of that.

因为你正在大杀四方，一旦你开始大杀四方，就像下棋一样，兄弟。

Because you're killing the game, and once you start killing the game, it's like chess, man.

我们在这儿下的就是棋。

We're out here playing chess.

目标就是干掉对方的老将。

The object is to kill the king.

说起来挺悲哀，但事实就是如此。

Sad, but true.

保持你的信念，兄弟。

Keep your faith, brother.

继续保持幽默感，兄弟。

Stay funny, man.

如果需要我，就打电话给叔叔。

If you need me, call Unc.

我懂你。

I got you.

哇，这太疯狂了。

Yo, this is crazy.

兄弟，这太牛了。

That is nuts, bro.

天哪，这太棒了。

That is amazing, man.

而且这真的是一个圆满的时刻，听到他这么说，哇，天哪。

And that really is a full circle moment, even hearing him say that, and wow, man.

他绝对是我仰慕的人。

Somebody that definitely I looked up to.

他和其他喜剧大师一样，就像……

Him amongst the other kings of comedy as well is like...

哇，天哪。

Wow, man.

这太深刻了。

That's deep.

这太深刻了。

That's deep.

那接下来呢？

What happens from there?

你从在那个房间里开始，看着那些史蒂夫·哈维的视频。

You go from being in that room, you're watching these Steve Harvey videos.

估计你得给你妈打电话，告诉她你要退学。

Presumably, you've got to call your mom, and you've got to tell your mom that you're dropping out.

她对此很不高兴。

She wasn't happy about that.

我记得她哭了，然后挂了我的电话，还说：“这太蠢了。”

I remember she cried, and she hung up on me, and she was like, "This is just so dumb."

她说：“你在说什么呢？”

Like, "What are you talking about?"

你跟她说了什么？

What did you say to her?

我一句话都说不出来。

I couldn't get any words out.

她挂了电话。

She hung up.

但我记得后来在FaceTime上看到她哭了。

But I remember seeing her crying on the FaceTime after.

我只是想告诉她我的愿景是什么——因为你说“我要退学”，但当然，你会有反驳的理由。

I just wanted to tell her what my vision was on-- Because you say, "I'm dropping out," but then, of course, you have a rebuttal.

“我有一个好主意。”

"I have a great idea."

她立刻就挂了电话。

And she hung up immediately.

所以后来我打电话给我的朋友。

So then I called my friend.

他半夜从学校把我接走了。

He came and grabbed me from the school in the middle of the night.

我当时离佐治亚州的亚特兰大有四个小时的路程。

I was four hours away from Atlanta, Georgia.

我就在佐治亚州南部深处。

I'm deep down in southern Georgia.

然后我们一路开回去。

And we drove all the way back.

等我到了那儿，她当然让我进了屋。我觉得那段时间挺混乱的，因为我也没赚到钱，所以她就问：“那现在呢？”

And when I got there, of course, she let me in the house, and I think it was just a confusing time because I'm also not making any money, so she's like, "Now what?

“你现在打算怎么办？”

Now what are you going to do?"

我有个大计划，就告诉了她我打算做什么。

And I had this big plan, and I told her what I was going to do.

我说：“我要当喜剧演员。”

I'm like, "I'm going to be a comedian.

我要上电视。

I'm going to be on TV.

我向你保证，一年之内，我一定会让自己上电视。

I promise you, in a year, I'm going to make sure I'm on TV.

如果我没做到，我跟她讲了个疯狂的故事，我就去死。

And if I'm not," I told her this wild story, "I'm going to kill myself."

我说，如果我没成为喜剧演员，没成为电视上出名的喜剧演员，我就去死。

I said, "If I don't become a comedian, and I don't become a famous comedian on TV, I'm going to kill myself."

她说，别这么说。

And she's like, "Don't say stuff like that.

这太傻了。

That is so dumb.

我希望你全力以赴做你的事，但这也太——为什么你非得做喜剧呢？

I want you to go hard for whatever you're doing, but that is just-- Why do you feel like it has to be comedy?"

我说，这是……

And I was like, "This is something that..."

然后我继续把所有事情都拆解了一遍。

And I continued to break down everything.

我说，这就是我一直想成为的样子。

I'm like, "This is what I've always wanted to be."

就好像你有一个很棒的想法，但没人能看到那个愿景。

It's almost like you have this great idea, but nobody sees the vision.

所以后来我去了我爷爷奶奶家。

So then I went to my grandparents.

我跟他们说了我同样的想法。

I told them the same vision that I had.

他们就住在她那条街上，他们就说，你在说什么呢？

They lived down the street from her, and they're like, "What are you talking about?

回去上学，拿到你的学历，然后再去做那些其他的事情。

Go back to school, get your education, and then you do all that other stuff."

因为他们有那种老派的想法，他们可能见过没上学的人，也见过上过学的人。

Because they had the old school mindset of, they've probably seen people that didn't go to school, and they've seen people that did go to school.

那些上了学的人，就去找份工作。

People that did go to school, get a job.

那些没上学的，在他们那个年代可能就成了瘾君子。

People that didn't go to school became maybe crackheads in their era.

我也不清楚。

I don't know.

或者成了生活中的失败者。

Or became failures in life.

所以他们从来没看到过事情好的一面。

So they never really saw the good side of what is.

而我觉得，辍学后还能成功的人，只有0.1%，甚至不到0.1%，这概率非常小。

And I was like, the 0.1 of people, maybe even less than 0.1% of people that are able to accomplish that after dropping out is very unlikely.

所以我一跟祖父母说，他们就说：“哦，不。”他们说：“我们知道会发生什么。”

So immediately, when I told my grandparents, they were like, "Oh, no." They said, "We know what's going to happen.

你会辍学的。

You're going to drop out.

你会打电话找我们要钱的。

You're going to be calling us, asking for money.

别打我们家的电话，也别跑过来，你肯定会去吸毒的。

Don't be calling our house and pulling up, and you're going to be doing drugs."

我就说："大家听我说，我不会那么做的。"

And I'm like, "Guys, listen, I'm not going to be doing that."

他们说："不行。"

They're like, "No."

你知道你祖父母是什么样的人。

You know your grandparents.

黑人祖父母，他们才不管呢。

Black grandparents, they don't give a shit.

他们说："别过来烦我们。

They're like, "Don't be coming over here and bothering us.

我们知道接下来会发生什么，你会变成个瘾君子的。"

We know what's about to happen, you're going to be a crackhead."

我就说，"听着，各位，我有计划。"

And I'm like, "Listen, guys, I have a plan."

其实我并没有马上行动。

And essentially, I didn't do it immediately.

我开始试着在红龙虾打工，然后在长角牛排馆、澳拜客牛排馆和麦当劳都干过。

I started trying to work at Red Lobster, and then I worked at a LongHorn's, and I worked at Outback Steakhouse and McDonald's.

我开始打工是因为来钱快。

I started to work jobs because it was a quick money thing.

后来我在亚特兰大生活，结果陷入了非法勾当。

And then I fell victim to living in Atlanta, where I was doing illegal stuff.

现在我看到自己陷入这种漩涡，心想，"天哪，我回家就是为了干这个？"

And now I'm seeing myself go into this whirlwind of, "Damn, I came home to do this?"

贩毒。

Drug dealing.

不，不是贩毒。

No, not drug dealing.

你刚才说的是非法的事情。

You said illegal stuff.

我喜欢你这么说……不，在亚特兰大，那是一个很多人容易陷入的诈骗圈子。

I love how you said... No, in Atlanta, it's like a scamming circle of where a lot of people fall victim to.

就是那种可以快速轻松地骗银行或者做银行卡诈骗之类的。

It's like you can do quick, easy scams with banks or doing card scams, just stuff like that.

我从来不是坏人，我只是觉得在追求那些东西的同时，这是条更容易的路。

And I never was a bad guy, I felt like that was an easier way to do it while I'm trying to pursue this stuff.

但我感觉这些事的报应一直压在我身上。

But I felt like the karma of this stuff was weighing on me.

就像，'哦，我要一边做这个一边追求喜剧'，但从来都没成。

It's like, "Oh, I'm going to try to pursue comedy while doing this," and it never worked out.

我甚至都没去追求。

I didn't even pursue it.

我只是……

I just was-

就是在试探吧。

Flirting with it

……

...

我一直在犹豫。

I was going back and forth.

对，我一直在反复纠结这个想法。

Yeah, I just continued to flirt back and forth with the idea of it.

然后就在我们被持枪抢劫的那一刻，我突然有种灵魂出窍的感觉，心想：哇，我回家竟然落到了这种境地，现在枪都顶到我头上了，我到底是怎么走到这一步的？

And then it was the moment that we got arm robbed Where I had an out-of-body feeling of wow, I came home to be in this predicament where I have a gun to my head now, and now it's like how did I even get here?

所以让我倒回去说。

So let me rewind back.

那是我最后一次对自己说：“好吧，如果我要做点什么，我就要么当个喜剧演员，要么就拼到死。”

That was the last moment I said, "Okay, if I'm going to do anything, I'm going to become a comedian or die trying."

就这样。

That's it.

我没有别的出路了。

I have no other outlet.

当我看到那把枪指着我和我朋友的时候，那会儿其实是个搞砸了的诈骗局，结果弄成这样。

Once I saw the barrel of that gun being pointed at me and my friend, at the time it was a bad scamming situation gone left.

就在那一刻我意识到，好吧，如果我这次能活下来，我一定要改变我的人生，我不会再去上班了。

That was the moment I noticed, okay, if I survive this, I am going to turn my life around, and I'm not going to go to a job.

我也不会回我妈家，跟她说我干这个干那个的。

I'm not going to go back to my mom's house and try to say, oh, I'm doing this or that.

我要专心去做，真的去做。

I'm going to lock in, actually do it.

从那时候起，我就回家了。

And from there on, I went home.

我把所有的目标都写在一张纸上。

I wrote all these goals down on a sheet of paper.

我妈呢，她其实也多少卷进了那件事里。

And my mom, she was kind of in the mix of what happened a little bit, too.

她听到了，因为她看到我在家里走来走去，压力很大。

She had heard because she saw me walking around the house being stressed out.

我告诉她发生了什么事。

I told her what's going on.

然后我把这些目标都写下来，因为她总是说：“不把事情写下来，你什么都做不成。”

And I wrote down all these goals because she would always say, "You can't do anything without writing things down."

从小她就跟我说：“你应该把这个写下来。”

Ever since I was a kid, she was like, "You should write that down.

如果你想记住什么，就把它写下来。”

If you want to remember something, write it down."

你还记得那些目标是什么吗？

Do you remember what the goals were?

我写下的第一个目标是：“不要有备选计划。你的首选计划会成功的。”

The first one I ever wrote was, "Don't have a plan B. Your plan A will work."

没有备选计划。你的首选计划会成功的。

No plan B. Your plan A will work.

我写的第二个是关于——

The second one I wrote was about-

是关于在那里主持巡演吗？

Was about hosting a tour on there?

主持巡演肯定在上面。

Hosting a tour was definitely on there.

主持颁奖晚会？

Hosting an awards evening?

那两个都在上面。

Both of those was on there.

我写下来了，我写下了当喜剧演员。

I wrote down that, I wrote down being a comedian.

我写下了很多其他事情。

I wrote down amongst a lot of other things.

你怎么知道的？

How do you know that?

那上面写了什么？

What is it on that?

你怎么知道的？

How do you know that?

那确实在上面。

That was on there.

我还没把完整的制作清单发给你。

I haven't sent you all a production .

所以我们有个骗人的把戏，可以骗一下。

So we got this scamming thing we do where we can scam.

主演一部大片？

Star in a major movie?

当然。

For sure.

那些都写在上面了，兄弟。

All that is down there, man.

那你当时大概23岁，对吧？

And you were 23 at the time, roughly?

对，23岁。

Yes, 23.

那后来发生了什么？

So what's happened then?

那你多大离开大学的？

So you left college at what age?

我大概21、22岁离开大学的。

I left college around 21, 22.

好，那中间有——

Okay, so there's-

21到22岁之间，我离开了大学。

In between 21, 22, I left college.

所以你在家和你妈妈待了一两年。

So it's a year or two at home with your mom.

一年半。

Year and a half.

我大概会说，在这一切发生之前，我在家待了整整一年。

I'd probably say a full year has been at home before all that transpired.

我试过找工作，也试过法律方面的事情。

I tried the jobs and tried the legal stuff.

那些都没成，现在我就到了这里，开始真正去做我写下来的那些事情。

That didn't work, and now I'm here, and I start to actually do the things that I wrote down.

具体来说是什么意思？

What does that mean specifically?

我觉得我写下这些目标之后发生的第一件事，就是一切都被夺走了。

I think the first thing that happened after I wrote these goals down, the first thing that happened, everything was taken away.

感觉就像在变好之前，所有东西都先垮掉了。

It felt like everything dropped out before it got good.

所有的一切。

Everything.

我把这些目标写下来，还写了日期。

I wrote down these goals, wrote the date on there.

砰，我就开始干了。

Boom, I'm doing it.

我当时想，好吧，现在我全力以赴了。

I was like, all right, now I'm locked in.

就是这一刻。

This is it.

我全情投入。

I'm all in.

我没有别的选择。

I have no other option.

没有备选方案，什么都没有。

There's no other plan B, nothing.

紧接着，我的车就被收走了。

Immediately, my car gets repossessed .

我当时就想，卧槽，这什么情况？

I'm like, yo, what the fuck?

现在我也没法出门，啥也干不了。

Now I can't travel or do nothing.

所以挺有意思的，就是当你下定决心去追求这些目标的时候，所有问题都会冒出来。

So it's funny because it's like as soon as you want to pursue all these things, everything has to come out.

而且这让人很困惑，因为大多数人从没见过成功的真实一面，因为他们中途就放弃了。

And it's confusing because most people never get a chance to see the real side of success because they quit.

就在那个时刻，当一切从你生活中崩塌的时候，他们会说：'天哪，我祈祷过这一切。

At that moment, that breaking point of everything falling out of your life, they're like, "Oh my God, I done prayed for all this stuff.

我把所有东西都写下来了。

I done wrote everything down.

我做了愿景板。

I got this mood board.

我什么都准备好了。

I got everything.

然后我就会失去这个，啊，你看，这根本行不通。

And then I'd lose this, and, ah, see, it don't work."

但我知道，我就想，我要继续走下去。

But I knew, I'm like, I'm going to keep going.

我不会停在这里。

I'm not going to stop here.

我其实把那件事做成了内容。

I actually made that a content piece.

我录下了我的车被收回的过程，人们都说：“嘿，你发这个干嘛？”

I recorded my car getting repossessed, and people were like, "Yo, what the hell are you posting this for?"

我就说：“嗯，就是这样。

I was like, "Well, there it is.

它走了。”

There she goes."

但其实，我难过死了。

But really, I was sad as shit.

我当时就想，天哪，我什么都没有了。

I was like, damn, I got nothing.

但我什么都不怕，因为我觉得我已经一无所有了。

But I feared nothing because I'm like, I have nothing left.

我坐在一个房间里，连床垫都没有。

I'm sitting here in a room, no mattress.

我就躺在地板上。

I'm laying on the floor.

我拿我妹妹小时候的毯子当被子，铺在地上用。

I'm using my little sister's blanket that she had as a blanket on the ground.

房间里连个衣柜都没有。

I don't have any dressers in here.

你知道的，你上大学的时候，你妈会把你的东西都送人。

You know when you go to college, your mom gives away all your shit.

她要么卖掉，要么放到某个仓库里。

She sells it, or she puts it in some warehouse.

所以我什么都没有了。

So I didn't have none of my stuff.

我就躺在地板上，心想，好吧，我还有车，但现在车也没了。

I just was laying on the floor, and I was like, yep, I had my car, but now that's gone.

那我还能失去什么呢？

So what else could I lose?

我已经走投无路了。

My back's against the wall.

我还是要继续坚持，继续做视频。

I'm going to continue to keep pursuing, making videos.

砰。

Boom.

而我就是这么做的。

And that's what I did.

我继续努力，继续爆发。

I continued to boom.

我没打算停下来，基本上把我妈家当成了片场。

I wasn't going to stop, and I was using my mom's house as essentially a movie set.

我开始把沙发翻过来。

I started to flip the couch upside down.

我想在房间左上角装个监控摄像头，好让自己看起来像是在演《第一现场》。

I wanted to do a surveillance camera at the top left side of the room to make it look like I'm on "First 48."

我在《第一现场》的剧集里采访自己。

I'm interviewing myself on a "First 48" episode.

就这样。

Boom.

这是其中一个段子。

That's one of the skits.

我还有另一个段子，用我妈衣柜里的那件夹克，穿上它，在后院假装是福克斯5台的新闻记者。

I have another skit where I'm using this jacket that my mom had in the closet, and I'm putting that on, I'm acting like a news reporter, Fox 5 in the backyard.

然后我把手机架在后院外面的垃圾桶上。

And I'm putting the phone cropped up on the trash can outside in the backyard.

我妈以前回家，就会说：“你他妈在干嘛？”

And my mom used to come home, she'd be like, "What the fuck are you doing?"

她经常看到家里乱成一团。

She used to see the house in shambles.

但我得感谢她，因为她一直陪着我坚持下来了。

But I got to give it to her because she stuck through it with me.

我总会跟她汇报说：“我现在有一万粉丝了。”

I would always give her these updates like, "I have 10K followers now.

“我有一万五千粉丝了。”

I have 15K followers."

她就说：“好吧，那又怎么样？”

She's like, "Okay, so what does that mean?

“你赚钱了吗？”

Did you make any money?"

我说：“没有，但有人看我。”

I'm like, "No, but I have people watching."

然后我就说，"哦，我有10万粉丝了。"

And I was like, "Oh, I got 100K followers."

"你赚到钱了吗？"

"Did you make any money yet?"

"没有，但有人在看。"

"No, but people are watching."

我就一直这样汇报，直到后来我开始通过推广赚钱。

And I continuously just kept giving these updates as eventually I started to make money through promotion.

我会推广别人的音乐和视频，放到我的动态里，然后做一整天的推广。

I would promote people's music and their videos and throw it on my story, and I would do a full day of promotion.

这样可能能赚个几百美元，够我那天晚上出去玩了。

It would make me a couple hundred dollars maybe, and that would be enough to maybe go out that night.

其实也没什么真正的成就感。

It wasn't anything real fulfilling.

或者我会帮我妈买点日用品。

Or I would help my mom with groceries.

我当时也试着想办法赚钱，但那时候其实没赚到什么真正的钱。

I would try to do things to make money, but it wasn't really making any real money at the time.

然后我就继续坚持做下去。

And then I continued to keep building.

所以，对，我觉得那些早期的经历真的对我影响很大。

So yeah, no, I think those early moments really shaped a lot for me.

我这里也有一段视频，我——

I've got a video here as well that I-

……

...

找到了。

found.

你可以跟我解释一下这个是什么。

You can explain what this one is to me.

天哪，对，天哪。

Man, yeah, man.

你知道怎么回事，兄弟。

You know what the going on, man.

哦，天哪。

Oh, man.

他们不看好我。

Counting me out.

我从来没离开过这个圈子。

I ain't never been out the game.

虽然慢，但进展不错。

It's slow but it's moving good.

那会儿刚搞完诈骗。

That was fresh off the scamming right there.

他们当时不看好我。

They was counting me out.

我就是这个意思。

That's what I'm saying.