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你还记得这些吗？

Do you remember these?

记得。

Yes.

你大概是在1992年那时候写的这个。

You wrote this roughly around the same time in '92.

说来有趣，其实那会儿我刚出生。

Roughly, actually, when I was born, funnily enough.

我看到上面的日期，心想，哦，比我生日晚了几天。

I saw the date on the top and thought, oh, it's a few days off after my birthday.

是的。

Yeah.

你又把当父亲排在第一位，但这份你列出的十大人生目标里，还有其他好几项呢。

And again, you put fatherhood number one, but there's a a series of other things on this list of your 10 goals in life Yeah.

这些是你1992年写的。

Which wrote in 1992.

回过头看这些目标，你后悔写过其中任何一个吗？

As you reflect on those goals, do you wish you hadn't written any of them?

还有没有其他目标，是你当时希望写进去的？

And is there anything else you wish you had written?

没有。

No.

我一点都不想改 anything about it.

That that that I wouldn't change a thing about it.

人生十大目标。

10 goals in life.

成为父亲。

Become a father.

找到并留住一个属于我的女人。

Find and keep a woman for me.

维持我和上帝的关系。

Keep my relationship with God.

追求最好的自己。

Chase my best self.

做个自私的功利主义者。

Be an egotistical utilitarian.

多冒险试试。

Take more risks.

多陪陪妈妈和家人。

Stay close to mom and family.

拿个最佳男主角的奥斯卡奖。

Win an Oscar for Best Actor.

回头看看，好好享受生活。

Look back and enjoy The View.

就继续好好活着吧。

Just keep living.

我不知道还能再添什么了。

I don't know what I'd add to that.

你之前几次提到过一个观点，就是人需要有阻力。

One of the things that you've talked a few times about is this idea of needing resistance.

是的。

Yeah.

你说了两三次了。

You said it two or three times.

对。

Yeah.

回到什么是男人、什么是内心稳定、方向明确的男人这个问题，阻力确实是关键。

And going back to what it is to be a man and what it is to be a well orientated, stable man, needing resistance.

这是我们应该追求的目标吗？

Is that a goal to aim for?

这是否意味着

Is that

我觉得，这不过是拥有超越高楼顶层、金钱堆砌的个人生活所必需的条件。

I think it's just a necessary necessity for having more than just an individual life at the top of the high rise with money.

如果你成功了，就照着做。

If you're successful, do that.

我的意思是，不管用什么词，你朋友转向基督教，原因其实很相似。

I mean, I'm supposing that whether it's different words, your friend went to Christianity for a very similar reason.

某种程度的内疚其实是健康的。

It's like a certain amount of guilt is very healthy.

它能帮我们守住界限。

It helps us keeps us its boundaries Boundaries.

如果没有羞耻，没有尴尬，没有内疚，只说一切都是四维的，那形式在哪？

Without any shame, without any embarrassment, without any guilt, telling me it's all just four dimensional, where's the form?

艺术在哪？

Where's art?

它只是四维的。

It's four dimensional.

它没有形态。

It has no form.

要有形体，就得有重力。

You've got to have gravity to have form.

要有形状，就得有点阻力。

You've got to have some resistance to have some form.

想往前走，总得有个借力点。

You've got to push off of something to go somewhere.

要是你飘在空中，没重力也没阻力，想追寻一个明确的目标，那真的太难了。

You've got to be it's very hard when you're just floating and with no gravity and no resistance to actually pursue a North Star.

你根本使不上劲。

You have no leverage.

你只是在漂浮。

You're floating.

艺术在哪呢？

Where's the art?

恐怕更多是混乱，而不是艺术。

Probably more anarchy than art.

所以，阻力才造就了形态。

So resistance gives form.

听过一位艺术家说过：限制才能显出风格。

Heard a great artist say this: Limitations reveal style.

阻力。

Resistance.

总得有个目标，不然就像一直亮着绿灯。

Something to go or else it's like in green lights.

如果生活全是绿灯，没有黄灯、红灯，也没有任何需要停下的理由或危机，那还谈什么阻力？

If life's just nothing but green lights, if you got no yellows and reds and no reasons to pause or crises that stop you, resistance?

那你是不是就在原地打转？

This what do you just go in circles?

会不会油箱空了，头都转晕了？

Do you run out of gas and get dizzy?

我不明白，没有阻力，我们怎么进步，或者倒退？

I don't see that how do we evolve or devolve without resistance?

选对阻力本身也是一门艺术。

Now, picking the right resistance is an art in itself.

这可不容易。

It's challenging.

我这辈子在这方面一直挺笨拙的，尤其是当我出名、成功之后。

I've been clumsy with it in my life, when especially when I got famous and got success.

一堆人跑来跟我说爱我，送我鱼子酱、香槟。

And enough people telling me I love you and the caviar and the champagne.

我当时就想：这到底算怎么回事？

I was like, what the shit?

凭什么是我？

Why me?

我不配得到这些。

I don't deserve any of this.

我到底做了什么？

What did I do?

所以我故意把事情搞砸，比如跑步下坡时故意绊倒自己，让鼻子流血，然后说：‘哦，这下我总算有点感觉了。’

And I I fucked things up on purpose just to say, like I'd trip myself running down hills so I could bloody my own nose and go, Oh, now I can feel.

明白了。

Okay.

好了，现在我的脚跟终于踩实了。

Okay, now my heels are on the ground.

我就是这么笨手笨脚的。

I need was clumsy.

所以我不觉得我们需要那种刻意制造、反而伤害自己、阻碍自己的阻力——因为现在我明白了，我想大家也都懂：当一切顺风顺水的时候，阻力自然会出现。

So I don't think we need the kind of resistance that we create that can harm us or get in our way for getting in our way's sake, because I've come to learn, and I think we all are, no, when things are going really well, resistance is going to come.

只要你有野心，阻力就一定会来。

If you have any ambition, resistance is going to come.

我们常常把阻力看成失败的标志，觉得应该尽量避开。

We often see resistance as a form of failure and something that we should endeavor to avoid.

你想想，很多人回避组建家庭，甚至不少人觉得，我们现在正处在一种过度安逸的危机中。

You think about the avoidance of people building families or even many people consider that we're living in a bit of a comfort crisis.

这个说法有点不一样，但我们现在得的大多数病——不管是心理上的，比如人感到孤独和孤立，还是身体上的，像百分之八十的美国人有背痛——可非洲哈扎部落的人却完全没有背痛。这些全都是因为我们一味追求舒适造成的，舒适短期是朋友，长期却是敌人。

This is slightly a different sort of analogy, but most of the diseases that we have today, whether they're diseases of, I don't know, the mind, like people feeling lonely and isolated, or physical diseases, eighty percent of Americans getting back pain, but no one in the Hadza tribe in Africa getting back pain, They're all a consequence of us continually choosing comfort, which is a short term friend but long term enemy.

而阻力，我觉得，现在越来越成了我们可以主动选择要不要的东西。

And resistance, I think, is something increasingly we can choose or opt out of.

这其实也是一种选择。

It's a choice, too.

我能提一个小点吗？叫‘附赠奖励’。

Can I hit a It's little point on this called Tips Included?

我这个想法是受了参与奖的启发。

And I wrote this based on participation trophies.

entitlement——太多和太少一样有害。我们确实都需要好运、信任和善意，但不能指望靠这些活着。

Entitlement how too much of something can be just as harmful is not enough, how we all need good fortune, good faith, and charity sometimes, but we shouldn't rely on that.

明白吗？

Okay?

附赠奖励：当额外加分成了标配，真正的努力反而没人看见了。

Tips included: When extra credit's included, credit doesn't get us due.

当给予越多，得到的却越少，这代价就失衡了。

When more gives us less, the exchange rate's gone askew.

如果犯罪前就承诺免罚，人们就更可能去干，反正不用付代价。

When amnesty is offered going into the crime, we're more bound to commit it because there is no fine.

当参与本身就成了所有人的奖杯，大家就只想打平，不再拼尽全力赢。

We start playing to tie instead of going for the win, when participation is the trophy for every cow in the pen.

如果你替我扛了所有，我却躲在门廊不动，等你回头求助，我也帮不上你了。

If I stay on the porch because you picked up the slack, when you look over your shoulder, I can't have your back.

要是没宵禁，我们肯定通宵不归。

If there is no curfew, we're going to stay out all night.

酒吧里不记账，我们就会喝到醉，然后闹事。

No tab at our bar, we're going get drunk and start a fight.

这些过度放大的视角，让我们渐渐失去了看清本质的能力。

All these long lenses got us losing our sight.

你一直替我扛着，迟早我会彻底失去自己的力气。

You keep lifting it for me, I'm going to lose all my might.

当四星的职责配得上六星的待遇，我们就松开方向盘，全靠运气了。

When a four star duty suits a six star rate, we take our hands off the wheel and rely on fate.

在无限量供应的自助餐里吃撑，反而让我们得了3.8的平均分和4.2的绩点。

Eating all we can at the all we can eat buffet gives us a 3.8 education and a 4.2 GPA.

我们偷走自己的努力，还毫发无损地得逞了。

We steal from ourselves and get away with the scam.

当没人再在乎，什么才算真正的价值？

What's the measure of merit with less give a damn?

这么多选择让我晕头转向，可那些便利却让我变得太舒服了。

These unlimited options sure have me confused, while all the conveniences are keeping me properly lubed.

在这通胀肆虐的红灯区，投资回报率根本撑不起一次假期。

In this red light district with the horror of inflation, the ROIs math don't pay for vacation.

咱们就直说吧：这额外加分根本就是个幌子。

So let's just admit it: this extra credit's quite a fluffer.

因为账单里已经含了小费，服务自然就敷衍了事。

Because when the tip's included, the service will suffer.

这太棒了。

That's so good.

但问题就在于这些便利设施、长焦镜头，一切都变得过度便利，我们反而被自己搞得手足无措。

But it's about thatthe conveniences, the long lenses, everything's like, oh, and we've outconvenienced ourself.

人工智能会对我们造成什么影响？

What's AI going to do to us?

说说便利吧。

Talk about convenience.

我多想多听听这些研究结果。

How much and I want to keep hearing studies.

我不知道你对这个有什么看法。

I wonder if you have an opinion on this.

你有多少时间是在构思点子、写写改改、反复琢磨？

How much of you coming up with an idea and then writing and rewriting it, thinking about it.

不，不，不，不。

No, no, no, no.

那可不是我们的专家。

That's not our expert.

哦，不，我真正想说的是该怎么把这事做成。

Oh, no, this is what I really mean and how to get it done.

从一个想法变成实际行动，这其中有多少价值，远不止说一句‘哦，原来如此’那么简单。

How much of that is really valuable to get it beyond just an intellectual idea, more valuable than just going, Ah, there it is.

那最终能产出什么呢？

Because what comes out of it?

非常了不起。

Incredibly impressive.

我猜我们可以把它当作路标，帮我们指明方向。

My gunch is that we can use it for, like, signpost to help us.

这主意不错。

Oh, that's good.

谢谢你帮我理清思路。

You for helping me organize.

但亲自投入精力去学习某样东西，这种价值是不可替代的。

But there's a value to us going through the sweat equity of learning something.

你觉得怎么样？

How do you feel about it?

你说得一点都没错。

I mean, exactly what you've said.

最近一些研究用了像ChatGPT这样的工具，实际上证实了你的观点：当人们用AI生成内容时，不仅记不住自己写了什么，说话方式也会越来越像AI。

But the studies that have just come out using different things like Chatuchi BT have actually proven what you've just said to be true, And when people use AI to produce a piece of work, not only can't they recall what they've made, but they also start speaking in language more like the AI.

于是他们渐渐失去了自己的表达风格。

So they start to lose their own voice.

不过，历史上像物理学家理查德·费曼这样的人都说过，学习的最好方式就是先学懂，然后硬着头皮把它写出来。

But, I mean, yeah, mean, for through history, people like Richard Fryman, the physicist, has said the best way to learn something is to learn it and then to go through the pain of writing it Right.

就像你常在新书《诗歌与祷告》里做的那样，把复杂的东西浓缩成一句朴实的真言，再分享给世界，然后听取反馈。

Condensing it down to a simple truth like you do so often in your new book, Poems and Prayers, and then sharing it with the world and then getting the feedback.

如果世界真的理解了你原本的意思——就像你刚才分享的那首诗——那就是你真正掌握的证据。

And if if the world understood it like you meant it, like that poem you just shared, you you you understand That's evidence that you get

没错。

it.

对。

Right.

所以我觉得，AI帮我表达想法很棒，但要我自己学习，它帮不上忙。

So I think AI is gonna be great for me saying something to you, but not learning something myself.

如果你想保护创造力、创新和独立思考的能力，其实有个绝佳的机会——那就是别人都往右走的时候，你偏偏往左走。

And I think if you want to defend creativity and innovation and the ability to think, you actually have a huge opportunity, which is to go left when everyone's going right.

对。

Right.

这正好印证了你刚才说的。

And it goes to what you were saying there.

你提到过，要小心对待激励机制。

You were talking about be careful when you mess mess with incentives.

别轻易选那条更轻松的路。

Like, careful when you choose the easier road.

要小心那些意想不到的后果。

Be careful of the unintended consequences.

AI就是一个典型的例子，说明你今天走了捷径会带来什么后果。

And AI is a prime example consequence of you taking the easier road today.

是的。

Yeah.

说来也巧，我刚拍了一个视频讲这个，提醒我的观众：当某件事看起来像是短期的帮手时，它往往是长期的对手。

And, you know, I just actually made a video about this, funnily enough, just just warning my audience about when something appears to be like a short term friend, it's usually a long term enemy.

你今天选了容易的，明天就得面对困难。

Like, you choose easy today, you choose hard tomorrow.

总归是有取舍的。

And there's always a trade off.

但你觉得，如果今天选了难的，明天是不是就能轻松一点？

But you think if you choose hard today, you usually get easy tomorrow?

这中间当然有很多微妙之处。

I mean, there's there's obviously a ton of nuance to this.

但在很多情况下，确实是这样。

But in many contexts, yes.

比如说，我想起我父亲，他总是不惜一切代价回避冲突。

So for example, when I think of I was thinking of my father, my father would never have he would avoid conflict at all costs.

他会躲开那些难谈的话题。

He would avoid the difficult conversation.

当我回望他一生和婚姻的几十年，我才明白，这种回避让他付出了巨大代价。

And when I zoom out over the the decades of his life and marriage, I go, man, that costs you big time.

你后来和他谈过了吗？

You caught up with him?

天哪。

Oh, my god.

而我在自己生活中反其道而行之，始终坚持直面问题，结果完全相反。

And me inverting that in my own life and continually just confronting it head on has had the complete opposite effect.

你提到年轻时做决定，心里有个声音说法律可能不适合你，于是你给父亲打了那通电话。

You never you know, like, when you were talking about being a young man and making that decision because you had that voice in your head saying law might not be my thing, and you made that phone call to your father.

是的。

Yeah.

我的理解是，你重新找回了真正的自己。

Like, what what I hear you did is, like, you realigned yourself to you.

如果你没打那个电话，继续放任这些坏习惯，等你四十岁的时候，可能会问自己：这人是谁？

Now, if you hadn't made that call and you'd let a couple more of those bad habits, you would have got to 40 and been like, who the fuck is this guy?

没错。

Right.

这到底是什么生活？

What is this life?

你会环顾四周，问自己：她是谁？

You would have looked around and said, who is she?

他们是谁？

Who are they?

这份工作到底算什么？

What is this job?

而这种调整，恰恰需要你今天去做那件稍微难一点的事。

And that's that course correction that I think requires you to do the slightly harder thing today.

你觉得呢？

What do you think?

我同意你的看法。

I agree with you.

这就是那种抗拒心理。

That's the resistance.

我得学会怎么好好放个假。

To choosing look, I still got to learn how to take a vacation.

有时候风正好在背后推着你，你确实该歇一歇了。

Because there's some times when the wind's at our back, and we've earned it.

有些时候，最简单的做法就是别打扰它，兄弟。

There's sometimes when it's easiest treatment, it's like, yeah, don't interrupt this, man.

这歌简直太棒了。

This is a sweet ass song.

相信高峰终会到来。

Trust that the hill's coming.

别太把这当回事。

Again, don't be so impressed with this.

当一切顺风顺水的时候，我最容易放松警惕，心里就想：哎，来了。

And don't, what I have to do is so fall into when things are going really well, I go, ah, there it is.

这才是真正的难点。

That's the mean.

不，不是这样的。

No, it's not.

只要有野心，就不是这样。

Not with any ambition, it's not.

只要生活还在继续，就不是这样。

Or not with life happening, it's not.

但我的直觉是——我想听听你对这个观点的看法：现实是，瞄准A，拿到C就够了。

But my hunch, I want to see what you think about this theory, is reality is shoot for an A and make a C.

这可比目标是C最后得F强多了。

It's rather better than shooting for a C and making an F.

所以，去追求完美吧。

Now, so go for perfection.

但现实总是会低于那个标准。

Reality always comes in under it.

可当你看到最终结果时，能多快地告诉自己：嘿，虽然没做到完美，但我从这件事、从这个人、从自己身上收获的，远比只想着‘及格就行’要多得多。

But in that moment when you see the inevitable reality, the outcome, the result, how quickly can we go, Okay, but I got so much more out of it the job, the person, myself because I went for perfection than if I'd had just gone for, nah, dude, just pass class.

这又是那种租客心态，一点小负担。

It's, again, that little bit onerous renter's mentality.

但有时候对我而言难的是，一旦没达到完美，我得花太久才能缓过来。

But what can be hard for me sometimes is it can take me too long to come down from when, oh, it didn't hit perfection.

也许要过一星期我才想通：喂，你终于明白了吧？当然不可能完美，但正因为你追求了完美，才得到了更多。

And maybe it takes me a week to go, dude, now do you finally realize that, of course you weren't going to get perfection, but you got so much more out of it because you went for perfection.

所以别纠结现实，你已经拿了个不错的成绩了，兄弟。

So be pleased with reality, because you've got a good grade on it, man.

这还不错。

That was good.

如果你没有那样做——我经常说这句话，但我从来不是想冒犯谁——这件艺术品就不会有那么真实。

That piece of art wouldn't have been that true if you wouldn't have been I say this all the time, and I never mean this in a disrespectful way.

我从来没拍过一部电影，或者演过一场戏，能完全达到我心中预期的样子。

I've never done a movie or a performance that lived up to what I thought it could be.

因为我总觉得它本可以达到神圣的境界。

Because I'm thinking it can be divine.

成品可能非常鼓舞人心，能打动很多人，甚至带点魔力，但我还是觉得它算不上神圣。

Comes out, maybe majorly inspiring, may speak to masses, They even have some magic to it, but I don't even think it's divine.

那是一种抗拒，一种张力。

That's resist that's tension.

一种未被填补的缺口。

Unclosed gap.

我觉得，所有伟大的、富有创意的杰作，都来自那些心中有着巨大期待落差的人。

And I think I think everything that's ever been built that's great or creatively brilliant has come from someone who has a big a big expectation gap.

当然，这种状态的定义就是，你永远不可能真正填平它。

And of course, the very definition of that, you're never gonna close it.

而也许你之所以总想奔向下一件事、再次追求那种神圣感，正是因为上一次不够神圣。

And actually, the probably the reason you then are motivated to move to the next thing and pursue divine again is because it wasn't divine last time.

或许还有没做完的事，这意味着你永远到不了终点。

Maybe there's still something left on the table and that's means you never arrive.

没错。

Right.

你在诗和祷告里也经常提到‘抵达’这个词。

You talk about arriving a lot in the poems and prayers as well.

我还想到你妈妈说过的话，她很早就告诉你，人生就是一种矛盾：既要谦卑，又要清楚自己有多了不起，你经历的那些事都是这样。

I also was reflecting on your mother's words where she, at a very young age to you, positioned life as a dichotomy of being humble, but know that you're the shit and all those things you went through.

其实是一回事。

And it's the same thing.

就是说，你要追求完美，但也要明白，永远不会有真正完美的时刻。

It's like strive for perfection, but also know that nothing will ever get there.

你能接受这种矛盾吗？

And can you be Okay with that dissonance?

对。

Right.

有个时刻，我觉得这正是生活的艺术所在——如果你一心追求完美，当现实降临，你必须承认，结果已经摆在眼前了。

And there's a moment, and I think it's where one of the arts of living is, if you are going to prescribe to go shoot perfection, there's that moment when reality comes in, when you had to declare, and the cards speak for themselves.

而且结果总是不如预期。

And it's under.

但因为你一直旁观着，我管这叫‘旁观’。

But because you oversaw it, this theory I got called oversee.

因为你一直旁观，期待着人、艺术和你自己身上那份神圣，可结果总比预期差一点。

Because you oversee and expect the best, this divinity out of people and art and of yourself, and then it always comes in under.

你能多快地坦然说一句：‘哦，现实就是这样啊。’

How quickly can you go, ah, nice reality.

关于这个，我能问你个问题吗？

Can I ask you a question about that then?

如果你一直追求完美，结果它真的完全按你想象的样子实现了，要是真那样的话。

If you'd aimed for something to be perfect, and then it delivered itself as perfect exactly how you had imagined, if if Yeah.

如果可能的话，那会让你开心吗？

If at all possible, would that have made you happy?

你会觉得不开心。

Would you have been No.

不会。

No.

不会。

No.

你说得对。

You're right.

是什么让你害怕？

What made you scared?

大概两个都有吧。

Both, probably.

因为，你看，我确实经历过一些时刻。

Because, look, I've had moments.

让我跟你说一个。

Let me tell you one.

在非洲。

In Africa.

我当时在非洲的马里。

I'm in Mali, Africa.

那地方真是够偏远的。

Dog gone country.

我和我一个朋友——现在还是好友——伊萨，一路徒步从一个村子走到另一个村子，走的是邦吉加拉路线。

Me and my guy, who's a buddy now, Isa, were hiking from village to village in the Bungee Gara.

每个村子之间相隔十几英里。

Each village is 10 to 15 miles away.

我去那儿的时候，想低调一点，就用了大卫这个名字。

I went over there, needing my anonymity under the name of David.

我就说自己是个作家兼拳击手。

And I said I was a writer and a boxer.

结果他们管我叫杜达。

Well, they called me Douda.

至于写作，他们根本不在乎，但对摔跤特别感兴趣。

Anyway, they didn't give a damn bet the writing part, but they were very interested in the wrestling part.

于是每到一个村子，大家都知道了有个叫杜达的白人壮汉。

So each village I would go to started to catch up to me, a strong white man named Doda.

那边的人特别喜欢摔跤。

And they loved to wrestle over there.

他们真的超爱摔跤。

They loved to wrestle.

这算是一种娱乐方式。

It's kind of a form of entertainment.

小伙子们走过来就直接开摔。

The boys just walk up and start wrestling.

有一晚我到了一个叫本贾曼图的村子。

I get to this one village one night, Benjamantu.

我当时躺在地上。

And I'm laying there.

走到那儿得走十四英里路。

It's a 14 mile hike to get there.

我躺在地上拉伸身体。

I'm laying on the ground, stretching.

周围的村子的人都慢慢围了过来。

Villages all kind of come up around.

他们七嘴八舌地议论着。

They're talking and chattering.

突然间，我听到一阵朝我这边来的嘈杂声。

And all of a sudden, I hear this chatter that's sort of at me.

我能清楚地听见。

I can just hear it.

我抬头一看，有两个男孩。

And I look up, it sees two boys.

他们大概十八岁左右。

They're about 18.

他们噼里啪啦地冲我嚷嚷。

And they're boom, boom, boom popping at me.

我能听出他们语气不对劲。

And I can be like, and I know enough in the tone.

我不懂他们在说什么，因为说的是邦马塔语。

I don't know what they're saying because they're speaking in bombata.

我心里想，他们是在骂我吧？

I'm like, are they talking shit to me?

他说：对，没错。

And he goes, yes.

他还说：他们是村里的摔跤手。

He goes, They are the wrestlers of the village.

他们说他们是村里最强的摔跤手，还点名要跟你比试，马特。

They say they are the best wrestlers of the village, and they are challenging you to wrestling, Matt.

我当时就想，哦，是吗？

So I was like, Oh, they are.

我心里想，这嘴可真够能说的。

I was like, Well, they sure are talking a lot.

我就说，我不确定他们是认真的。

I go, I don't know if they mean it.

你们这儿也有这种规矩吗？

Y'all have this thing over here?

在美国，要是一个人喋喋不休，那多半只是说说而已。

We have a thing in America where if someone talks too much, they really don't mean it.

他说，对，我们这儿也有。

He goes, Yes, we have this.

我们这儿也有这种规矩。

We have this.

就在那一刻，你听到人群突然爆发出一阵惊呼。

And just as that happens, you hear the crowd, whaaaah, scream.

我抬头一看，那两个男孩立马撒腿就跑。

And I look up and the two boys, bam, run off.

为什么？

Why?

因为村里真正的摔跤冠军来了——米歇尔，身高五英尺九，腿像树干，体重两百二十磅，腰上裹着麻袋，还用绳子绑着。

Because the real champion wrestler of the village, Michel (five foot nine, tree trunk legs, about two twenty, burlap bag wrapped with a rope around his waist) he showed up.

他一句话都没说。

He doesn't say a word.

他就站在我面前，指了指我，又指了指自己，然后朝那边一比划。

He just stands over me, points to me, points to himself, and points over here.

我顺着他指的方向看去，地上有个大土坑。

I look over where he's pointing, and there's a big dirt pit.

我的心一下子跳得飞快。

My heart starts racing.

挑战就在这儿。

There's the challenge.

心跳加速，我心里嘀咕着‘完了’，可我还是站了起来。

As my heart's beating going, Oh, no, I start to get up.

一边耳朵在说‘完了’，另一边却在提醒我：如果你退缩了，这辈子都会后悔。

Because as this ear is saying, Oh, no, I'm hearing in this ear, If you don't, you will regret this for the rest of your life.

你必须上。

You've got to go do it.

至少这能变成一个值得讲的故事。

This will at least be a great story to tell.

于是我站了起来。

So I get up.

全村人都沸腾了。

The village goes crazy.

这时候已经有大约八十个人围过来了。

About 80 people have gathered now.

酋长走了出来。

The chief comes out.

我站在坑中央，心里直打鼓：这到底该怎么搞？

I'm standing in the middle of the pit going, I'm not sure how this is supposed to go.

规矩是什么？

What are the rules?

酋长把手放在我们头上。

Chief puts his hands on our heads.

米歇尔一把抱住我的腰，给我做示范。

Michelle grabs me by the waist, mimics to me.

我也一把抱住他的腰。

I grab him by the waist.

他把额头抵在我锁骨这儿，我也把额头贴上他的。

Then he burrows his forehead down into my clavicle here, and I burrow mine into his.

现在我们俩就像两头公牛，顶在一起。

So now we're like two bulls like this.

酋长把手放在我们头上，然后把他举起来，喊了声：停！

And the Chief puts his hands on our head and then raises him and goes, Stop!

观众一下子炸开了锅。

And the crowd goes wild.

‘叮叮’就是停下的意思。

Ding ding is what stop meant.

于是我们开始绕圈，我心里想：我该怎么找到发力点呢？

So we start going around, man, and I'm thinking, okay, where'd I get some leverage on this guy?

他的腿粗得跟树干一样。

His legs are like tree trunks.

我心里嘀咕：这 guy 根本别想把他压低。

I'm like, oh, I ain't getting him down low.

我们俩就这么磨着，像两个老头在较劲。

So we're scraping, grandpa boom.

我猛地一使力，把他掀翻在地。

I get him over, bam, flip him on his back.

他把我又翻了回去。

He flips me back over.

我一个后空翻从他背上甩下去，他立马扑上来，给我来了个恐怖的腿锁，我都快喘不上气了，差点就得认输。

I back flip him off my back at somersault, and he comes in, gets me in a freaking leg lock that I can barely breathe from, almost got to tap out from.

我突然一扭身，挣脱了那招。

I shimmy that thing all of a sudden.

裁判冲进来把我们俩分开。

Chief comes in, separates us.

我当时喘得厉害，简直要窒息了。

I'm hyperventilating, man.

观众都疯了。

Crowd's going crazy.

他那边是分腿蜜雪儿，我这边是被压着。

He's got a split Michelle on this side, me on this side.

我胡子上挂着的那几个护身符，比赛后半段被扯掉了两个。

These talismans that were in my beard, two of them got torn out during the rest of the match.

血顺着我身上流下来。

Got blood running down me here.

我的膝盖都在流血。

My knees are bleeding.

我的脚踝也在流血。

My ankles are bleeding.

我喘得厉害，浑身都是汗。

I'm hyperventilated and covered in sweat.

我瞥了眼米歇尔，他正盯着我，身上连点汗都没见着。

I look over at Michelle, who's just staring at me going, barely a glisten on him.

就在这时候，裁判喊了声：‘停！’

And that's when the Chief goes, Duh!

我心想：‘糟了。’

And I go, Oh, shit.

又要开始了。

Here we go.

砰，砰，砰。

Boom, boom, boom.

腰围又长了。

Grows my waist.

砰，砰，他脑袋鼓起来了。

Pop, pop, burls his head.

我把头埋了下去。

I burrow my head.

我们开始了。

We're off.

又转了一圈。

Goes around again.

这场比赛真够劲的。

Pretty damn good match.

很强。

Strong.

我把他翻过去了。

I flipped him.

他把我压住了。

He pinned me.

我们站起来，继续往前走。

We got up, got moving.

突然，教练冲进来把我们分开了。

All of a sudden, Chief comes in and separates us.

他把我们俩的手都举了起来。

Raises both our hands.

观众都疯了。

The crowd goes crazy.

他一放下我们的手，米歇尔就跑开了。

As soon as he lowers our hands, Michelle runs off.

大家都看见他跑了，于是冲上来把我抬起来，把蒂米扛在肩上。

Everyone sees him go, and they come in and grab me and put Thimmy on their shoulders.

道德，道德，道德。

Dowd, Dowd, Dowd.

我走过去。

I go over.

现在我在村子里成了大人物，他们给我挑了最舒服的椅子，席子上的草最少；村里的男孩给我找来最大的鸡，拔毛炖了给我当晚餐，还带我去河里最干净的地方洗澡。

Now I'm a big man in the village, which means they give me the best chair that has the least broken sort of straw in the seat, which means the village boy finds me the biggest chicken and plucks it, they cook it for dinner for me, which means they take me to the cleanest spot in the river.

晚上我回来，大家一起吃饭，然后我爬上小屋的屋顶。

I come back at night, we eat, I get on the roof of the hut.

真是奇妙的一天。

What a magical day.

我躺下来。

I lay back.

我第一次在天上看到了南十字座。

I see the Southern Cross for the first time in the sky.

就像黑幕上亮着一盏霓虹灯。

Like, it was a neon light on a black backdrop.