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大家最近怎么样？
What's up, everybody?
欢迎回到德雷蒙德·格林秀。
Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
今天这期节目，咱们该聊聊NBA选秀了，因为赛季已经结束，选秀季到了。
On today's show, it's time that we preview the NBA draft because the NBA season is over, and it's draft time.
再过一周左右，这些新秀就要登场了。
We're about a week away from these guys.
人生就此改变，咱们直接切入正题。
Lives change forever, so let's get right into that.
不过在谈选秀之前，现在人人都在议论，系列赛结束后到底该不该握手。
However, before I go into the draft talk, there's clearly, everyone now has an opinion on whether you should shake hands after a series or not.
说实话，我没什么意见，毕竟每个人的看法都那样，有权这么想。
And, you know, the problem I have well, I don't have a problem because people's opinions are what they are, and everybody's entitled to one.
每个人都有自己的看法。
Everybody has one.
但我觉得大家现在讨论的问题在于，总在那儿挑细节、钻牛角尖，非得把对错分得特别清楚。
However, the issue with what I see people saying is I just feel like people are picking and choosing and splitting hairs so much on what's what.
什么才算NBA里该做的，什么又不算。
Like, what's great in the NBA, what's not great in the NBA.
说白了，就是大家太较真了。
I feel like people are just splitting hairs.
首先，我压根儿没提过体育精神这回事。
Because number one, actually, I never said anything about sportsmanship.
结果人人都在那儿说：天哪。
So everybody's like, oh, man.
都说体育精神不重要，谁还在乎这个？
Sportsmanship is overrated or sportsmanship, who cares?
我只是输了。
I just lost.
我生气了。
I'm mad.
我现在不想跟你说话。
I don't wanna talk to you.
我真正的问题就是，我生气了。
That's actually the issue I have is I'm mad.
我现在不想跟你说话，因为我刚输了。
I don't wanna talk to you right now because I just lost.
大家都把话题扯到体育精神上，但那根本不是重点。
That's actually like, everybody's trying to point to sportsmanship, but that wasn't the point.
重点其实就是大家说的那句：我生气了。
The point was actually what everyone's saying, which is I'm mad.
我不想说话。
I don't wanna talk.
这没什么问题。
And that's okay.
我之前说的是，直视你的对手，说出你想说的任何话。
Except what I said was, look your killer in his eyes and say whatever it is that you wanna say.
我刚才说的是，直视你的对手的眼睛。
But look your killer in his eyes, is what I said.
我讲的其实更关乎竞争优势。
So what I said is more about a competitive advantage.
我强调的是竞争优势，而不是体育精神。
What I said is more about a competitive edge, not sportsmanship.
我对体育精神根本不在乎。
I don't give a shit about sportsmanship.
我就是那个说‘领先了就不该再得分’这种不成文规矩很荒谬的人。
I am the same guy that said the unwritten rules of not scoring a basketball because you're ahead is ridiculous.
我就是那个被罚出场无数次、还被禁赛过的人。
I am the same guy who's been ejected a million times and suspended.
我就是同一个人。
And I'm the same guy.
你觉得我会在乎什么体育精神吗？
You think I give a damn about sportsmanship?
我不在乎什么体育精神。
I don't care about sportsmanship.
我在乎的是，我们刚打完一整个系列赛。
What I care about is we just played a series.
这是NBA里唯一一个我能连续七次跟你对上的机会。
It's the only time in the NBA where I can play you up to seven times in a row.
一年到头，要不是我首发，根本碰不上你七次。
Barely seven times in a year for that matter, unless you start me.
但只有在系列赛里，我才能连续七场跟你打。
But it's the only time that I can play you seven times in a row.
因为连续打七场，通常胜出的都是更强的那方。
Because I can play you seven games in a row, usually, the best man wins.
通常是这样。
Usually.
偶尔会有意外，但大多数时候，更强的队伍、更强的球员会赢。
Every now and then, some things happen, but usually, the best man, best team wins.
你知道为什么吗？
You know why?
因为我连续跟你打七场。
Because I'm playing you seven games in a row.
到了第三场或者第四场，咱们都摸透对方了。
And at some point within game three or game four, you know me and I know you.
然后呢？
Now what?
季后赛打的就是这个。
And that's what the playoffs come down to.
总决赛打的也是这个——你了解我，我也了解你。
That's what the NBA finals comes down to is you know me, and I know you.
然后呢？
Now what?
这时候，谁愿意多拼一把，帮我们渡过难关？
Now who's gonna do the extra to get us over humped?
现在谁愿意为我打的每个战术付出全部努力？
Now who's gonna do everything it takes re in regards of you know what play I'm running.
我知道你准备打什么战术。
I know what play you're running.
你知道我们该怎么防。
You know how we guarding this.
我也清楚你们怎么防守。
I know how you're guarding it.
这些情况在季后赛里经常发生。
Like, these things happens during playoff series.
到了NBA总决赛，这些事会升级到极致。
And when you get to the NBA finals, it's it happens at the highest level.
我可以肯定告诉你，没打过总决赛、只打过季后赛甚至分区决赛的人，根本体会不到总决赛的真实水平。
One thing I can assure you is a guy who's never played in the NBA finals but has played in the playoffs, even the conference finals, has no clue the level that is taking place within the NBA fine during the NBA finals.
完全想象不到。
Have no idea.
在这期间，我和他一对一硬碰硬打了七场，不管是四场、五场，只要系列赛还在继续，我们就一直拼到底。
Within that, I just went mano y mano with this man for seven games or up to seven games, four games, five games in a row, whatever it is that the series go, we just went at it.
如果我因为输了而生气，那就该做点什么来改变。
If I'm mad because I lost, do something about it.
但真正该行动的时候，不是转身离开球场。
But the time to do something about it actually isn't to walk off the court.
你明明有机会去争取，可你输了。
Because you had a chance to do something about it, and you lost.
所以转身走人，在我看来，根本不是什么体育精神。
So to walk off the court to me, it it that ain't about sportsmanship.
我们可是连续五六七场比赛，面对面死磕过来的。
That's about we just looked each other in the eyes five, six, seven games in a row.
现在我赢了，你反倒不敢直视我的眼睛了。
And now that I beat you, you're afraid to look me in my eyes.
记住我刚才说的话。
Remember what I said.
你要是走了，你就属于我了。
If you leave, I own you.
你属于我。
I own you.
因为你不敢直视我的眼睛，连续打了五场、六场、七场。
Because you're afraid you look me in my eyes for five games, six games, seven games straight.
等你意识到自己根本赢不了我，就逃了。
And then once you realized, damn, you couldn't beat me, you ran off.
你连看都不敢再看我一眼。
You couldn't even look me in my eyes anymore.
你属于我。
I own you.
这跟体育精神一点关系都没有。
That ain't got nothing to do with sportsmanship.
这纯粹就是关于输赢。
That has everything to do with winning.
这正是赢球的意义所在。
That's what that has to do with winning.
因为你一逃下球场，就暴露了你的本性——不敢直视那个击败你的人。
Because when you run off the court, it exposes a certain character when you can't look your killer in his eyes.
要是你再碰上那个对手怎么办？
Because what if you run into that killer again?
要是你再遇到他呢？
What if you run into him again?
别跟我打了。
Don't be playing against me.
你知道我要说什么吗？
Because you know what I'm a say?
哦，你现在敢直视我的眼睛了？
Oh, you can look me in my eyes again.
哦，所以你觉得自己又有机会赢了？
Oh, so you got a chance to win.
现在你可以直视我的眼睛了。
Now you can look me in my eyes.
但你输的时候，却不敢。
But when you lost, you couldn't.
明白了。
Okay.
心理战。
Mind games.
相信我。
Trust me.
要把它们发挥到极致。
Play them at the highest level.
这些都很重要。
They're important.
心理战。
Mind games.
嘿。
Yo.
砰。
Bang.
所以现在，你知道那家伙在想什么了吗？
So now, you know what that guy's thinking?
天哪。
Oh, man.
唉。
Man.
上次我们输了。
We lost last time.
老天，这次他真想拿下他。
God, he tried to get him this time.
你现在给自己加压了。
Now you adding pressure to yourself.
哎呀，真是的。
Oh, man.
你容易紧张。
You get uptight.
人应对压力的方式都不一样。
People deal with pressure different.
你得放松下来。
You get loose.
人应对压力的方式各不相同。
People deal with handle pressure differently.
但并不是所有这些因素都会起作用。
But not all of those things come into play.
我跟你说，到了最高水平，你反而最不需要这些因素来影响你。
And let me tell you, when you're at the highest level, you need the least amount of those things to come into play.
越少越好。
The least amount.
你最不需要的就是这些因素发挥作用。
You need those the least amount of those things to come into play.
当你额外给自己添堵，再在本就艰难的路上加码，事情就难了。
When you start adding extra uphill battles, extra battles on your uphill incline, they get tough.
你猜怎么着？
And guess what?
我说过，你会看到球队走偏了方向。
I said, you start to see teams go the wrong way.
因为这让我觉得，当你躲着我、不敢面对我时，那就是典型的领先者做派。
Because what that says to me is when you run off and you can't face me, it's front runner behavior.
这正是我的看法。
That's what it says to me.
当年我们跟快船队交手时，总觉得自己压着他们，就是因为觉得他们有领先者做派。
When we were playing the Clippers all those years, we always thought we we we owned them because we thought they had front runner behavior.
打火箭队的时候，我们也觉得压着他们，同样是觉得他们有领先者做派。
When we was playing the Rockets, we thought we owned them because we thought they had front runner behavior.
顺的时候，一切都顺。
When it's going great, it's going great.
不顺的时候，立马就散了。
When it's going bad, splinter.
这就是领先者的心态。
That's front runner behavior.
一旦我们看出你有领先者心态，你就赢不了我们。
And once we know you got front runner behavior, you ain't beating us.
你赢不了我们的。
You're not beating us.
根本没可能。
Ain't happening.
你看看我们输过的那些队。
You look at the teams we lost to.
总决赛输的多伦多，一点领先者心态都没有。
Lost in the final Toronto, zero front runner behavior.
克利夫兰，完全没有领先者做派。
Cleveland, zero front runner behavior.
领先者做派迟早都会暴露出来。
Front runner behavior always gets exposed at one point or another.
你不能有领先者做派。
You can't have front runner behavior.
在这个联盟里，这种做派赢不了。
It does not win in this league.
输掉系列赛后直接冲出球场，这就是领先者做派。
And running off the court after you lose in a series is front runner behavior.
这就是为什么它算领先者做派。
And here's why it's front runner behavior.
谁在乎体育精神？
And who gives a fuck about sportsmanship?
我根本不关心体育精神。
I don't care about sportsmanship.
这就是为什么这叫临阵脱逃。
Here's why it's front runner behavior.
因为你赢了，对方想跟你握手，你肯定会站那儿，自豪地跟他们握手。
It's front runner behavior because if you won and those guys that lost try to shake your hand, you're gonna stand there and shake that hand proudly.
你肯定会站那儿，自豪地跟他们握手。
You're gonna stand there and shake the hand proudly.
你会直视着你击败的人，一脸骄傲。
You're gonna look the guy you killed in his eyes proudly.
我赢了你。
I killed you.
我才是把你打败的人。
I'm your killer.
我会直视你的眼睛，毫不退缩。
I'm a look you in your eyes proudly.
我从没见过哪支球队赢了冠军，别人伸手想握手，他们却说‘我不想跟你握手’。
I've never seen anyone win the championship and someone go to shake their hand and they like, I don't wanna shake your hand.
我挺不爽的。
I'm upset.
没这回事。
Nope.
我们可没见到过，绝对没有。
We ain't seen that, Nope.
我们看到的是：管他呢。
What we did see is fuck it.
赢家高高兴兴地过去握手。
Happy motherfucker come shake their hand.
天哪。
Oh, man.
谢谢你，兄弟。
Thank you, bro.
那真棒。
It was great.
但当你输了的时候，这反而被说成是体育精神，而且你根本没必要讲究这个。
But when you lose, it's now considered sportsmanship, and you don't have to have it.
没错，我同意。
Well, I agree.
你根本不需要讲什么体育精神。
You don't have to have sportsmanship.
谁在乎啊？
Who gives a shit?
可这些嘴上说体育精神不重要的人，一旦我针对某个运动员做了点什么，他们立马就喊着要把他送进监狱。
However, these same very people that are talking all of this about how sportsmanship don't matter are the same very people that when I do something to a sportsman like, it's, yo, he should get thrown under the jail.
应该无限期禁赛。
He should get suspended indefinitely.
应该禁赛二十五场。
He should get suspended for 25 games.
我就听过其中一个人这么说。
I've seen one of them say.
他做出这种不体面的行为，至少该停赛25场。
He should be suspended at least 25 games for doing something unsportsmanlike.
可这些same人又说，体育精神根本没那么重要。
But then these very people say, sportsmanship is overrated.
根本不值一提。
It don't matter.
九十年代的时候，他们根本不会跟对手握手。
In the nineties, they ain't shake nobody's hand.
九十年代，他们比赛里直接就给你来个锁喉摔。
In the nineties, they also will fucking clothesline you in the game.
接着说。
Go on.
让我也来个锁喉摔试试。
Let me clothesline somebody.
二月份的时候，让我也去锁喉一个人。
In the February, Let me close line somebody.
猜猜我们要做什么？
Guess what we gonna do?
要求处罚德拉蒙德·格林。
Call for Draymond Head.
这太不体面了。
That's so unsportsmanlike.
但现在年轻球员离场时，法国球员离场时，根本不用讲什么体育精神。
But now when the young guys walk off the court, when the Frenchmen walk off the court, you ain't gotta show no sportsmanship.
可你一旦做了不体面的事，人家就要你好看。
But when you do something unsportsmanlike, they calling for your head.
顺便说一句，他进季后赛时还是众人捧的宠儿，出来时却成了众矢之的。
By the way, when he came into these playoffs as the darling, he left these playoffs as the villain.
为什么？
Why?
因为他做了不少不体面的事。
Because he done some unsportsmanlike things.
哎呀，糟了。
Oh, shit.
哇哦。
Woah.
喂。
Hey.
你知道吗，联盟给了温迪一个宽大处理。
You know, the league gave Wendy a break.
他们就这么做了。
They did this.
为什么给他开绿灯？
Why they give him a break?
因为他做了些不体面的事。
Because he did some unsportsmanlike thing.
哎，什么体育精神，根本不重要。
Oh, sportsmanship don't matter.
我们讨厌温比，就因为他干了那种事之类的。
Oh, we hate Wimby because he did it or that.
真是见鬼了。
Well, goddamn it.
咱们能站个队吗？
Can we pick a side?
咱们能选条路吗？
Can we pick a path?
不体育精神，体育精神。
Unsportsmanlike, sportsmanlike.
咱们能选一个吗？
Can we pick one?
还是说，全都放任不管也行？
Or can they all just be okay?
但如果明年我狠狠来个飞摔，你们又说‘嘿，这不行’，那算什么？
But if they're all gonna be okay when I fucking clothesline someone next year, don't say, hey, up.
德雷蒙德，又来这一套了。
Draymond, up to it again.
他真该被禁赛了。
He gotta get suspended.
别忘了，你们说体育精神被高估了，可我压根儿没谈体育精神。
Because remember, sportsmanship is overrated, except I wasn't talking sportsmanship.
但你们要是非想聊这个，那咱们就彻底聊聊体育精神。
But if that's what y'all wanna talk, then let's really talk sportsmanship.
如果我下次把人放倒，你们立马要我好看，那你们就不能说体育精神被高估了。
But we can't say sportsmanship is overrated if, in fact, when I lay somebody down, y'all gonna call for my head.
你们不能一边说体育精神不重要，一边又做同样的事。
We can't you can't be the same people saying sportsmanship is overrated.
我不用去握手。
I don't have to shake.
你们不能又是那群人。
You can't be those same people.
人总得有个地方住吧。
They you gotta live somewhere.
总不能在这上面当流浪汉吧。
Can't be a nomad on these things.
我真的烦透了，因为标准一直在变，变个没完。
So I'm kinda sick of it because it the goalpost just moves and moves and moves.
根本就没有个固定的规矩。
Like, there's no structure to anything.
这标准怎么就能这么随意地改来改去？
There's no like, how does it just move like that?
我跟你说真的。
I kid you not.
如果你觉得我明年第一场比赛就动手收拾人，
If you think I'll I'll close line somebody first game next year.
我打赌第二天他们肯定上电视说：‘这人得禁赛。’
I guarantee you they'd be on TV the next day like, oh, he need to be suspended.
他从来都没吸取教训。
He never learned his lesson.
都第十五年了，还是没吸取教训。
He in year 15 and never learned his lesson.
没错。
No.
但所谓的体育精神，其实被夸大了。
But sportsmanship is so it's overrated.
这确实就是所谓的体育精神。
Well, that's sportsmanship.
真的被夸大了。
It's overrated.
咱们别谈体育精神了，大家都心知肚明，你们到底怎么想的。
So let's not talk sportsmanship because we know how all of you really feel about that.
你们早就让我看明白了。
Y'all have shown me.
所以我们心知肚明。
So we know.
那我们就继续直视你的对手的眼睛。
So we'll go back to looking your killer in his eyes.
如果你不敢直视你对手的眼睛，这跟体育精神一点关系都没有。
And if you can't look his your killer in his eyes, that ain't got nothing to do with sportsmanship.
这跟你被我羞辱了、被我压住了、不敢面对我有关。
That got something to do with I embarrassed you, I own you, and you can't see me.
我见过有些人一蹶不振，从此再也爬不起来。
Well, I've seen guys turn into that and never win, never get back.
再也爬不起来。
Never get back.
我见过有人真的这样。
I've seen guys do it.
所以现在很多人在瞎说。
So a lot of people talking.
他们从来没赢过。
They never won.
如果你一直没赢过，那你的看法就是片面的，因为你根本不懂赢是什么感觉。
If you talking and you never won, then your opinion is one-sided because you don't know how it feel to win.
你只懂输的感觉。
You only know how it feel to lose.
你只知道我因为输了有点不高兴。
You only know I was a little upset because I lost.
我输给了他们，所以不想跟任何人说话。
I didn't wanna talk to anybody because they beat me.
我当时是有点不高兴，但你从来没体验过赢的感觉。
So I was a little upset, but you never experience winning.
我敢保证，只要你体验过赢，你就不会拒绝那个握手。
And I guarantee you if you experience winning, you ain't turning down that handshake.
你不会拒绝那个握手。
You ain't turning down the handshake.
所以我们别推崇领跑者了。
So let's not promote front running.
这可不是什么好事。
That ain't good.
领跑的人最后都会输。
Front runners lose.
所以我们别推崇领跑者了。
Let's not promote front running.
这招根本行不通。
It'll never work.
现在咱们聊聊NBA选秀吧。
Now let's get into the NBA Draft.
希望这些年轻小伙子们听好了，你们最不该做的，就是一进NBA就被贴上‘领跑者’的标签。
Hopefully, these young guys listening and know that the one thing you don't wanna do is you don't wanna come into the NBA and be labeled a fucking front runner.
你们千万别一进联盟就被叫做领跑者。
You do not wanna come into this league and be labeled a front runner.
就这么定了。
Period.
现在我们来聊聊NBA选秀。
So now we'll get into the NBA draft.
不管你是不是像我一样的父亲，是单身，还是处在人生的任何阶段，你大概都为医疗问题操过心。
If you're a dad like me or if you're single or if you're at any stage or age in your life, you have probably been worried about health care.
搞清楚保险、找对医生、预约就诊，这些事真能让人寸步难行。
Figuring out insurance, finding the right doctors, making appointments, it can make you feel stuck.
我了解到Solace的时候，就觉得这正是我从一开始就希望有的帮手。
When I learned about solace, it felt like the resource I wish I'd had from the start.
Solace会为你匹配一位专属的医疗顾问，和你一起应对这些乱七八糟的事。
Solace matches you with a dedicated health care advocate who steps into the mess with you.
Solace的顾问能帮你找到合适的医生，安排就诊时间。
A solace advocate can find the right doctors and schedule appointments.
他们会帮你争取保险理赔，确保治疗获批，还能让你的各个医生之间真正沟通起来。
Fight deny insurance claims to get care approved and make sure all your doctors are actually communicating with each other.
他们甚至可以远程参与你的就诊，帮你把复杂的医学术语翻译成通俗易懂的话，解读检查结果和治疗方案，让你清清楚楚知道自己的情况。
They can even join your appointments remotely, help translate complex medical language into plain English, and break down test results and treatment plans so you know exactly what's going on.
你可以通过电话、短信、邮件，或者通过平台视频联系你的专属顾问。
You connect with your advocate by phone, text, email, or video call them through the platform.
这些顾问都是经验丰富的医疗专业人士，包括有多年临床经验的护士，已经帮助数万人获得了更好的医疗服务。
These are experienced health care professionals, including nurses with years in the field, and they've already helped tens of thousands of people get better care.
前往 solidhealth.com 查看你是否符合条件。
Go to solidhealth.com to see if you qualify.
大概花两分钟就能完成，而且费用由保险承担。
It takes about two minutes, and it's covered by insurance.
网址是 solidhealth.com。
That's solidhealth.com.
需年满18岁。
Must be 18 or older.
顾问不提供医疗或法律建议。
Advocates do not provide medical or legal advice.
《不无聊的历史》是一档真实又有力的美国历史播客，用生动有趣的故事讲述历史。
History That Doesn't Suck is a legit, hard hitting American history podcast told through entertaining stories.
随着美国建国二百五十周年临近，现在或许是时候回头看看我们是怎么走到今天的了。节目已有两百多集，你可以一 decade 一 decade 地慢慢听，从建国初期一路听到二十世纪，一个个关键事件串联起整个历史脉络。
As we approach America's two hundred fiftieth anniversary, now might be the time to go back and learn how we got With more than 200 episodes, you can bend your way decade by decade, defining event to defining event from the founding into the twentieth century.
我是格雷格·杰克逊教授，欢迎收听《不无聊的历史》——这档由 Audacy 出品的播客，你可以在苹果播客、Spotify，或者你常用的任何播客平台收听。
Join me, Professor Greg Jackson, for History That Doesn't Suck, an Audacy podcast, available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
在聊选秀之前，我先提一件事：有个来自佛罗里达的年轻人，叫托马斯·豪，他说是我帮他做了选秀决定。
Before we get into the draft, the actual draft, I saw that Thomas Haugh, a young fellow from Florida, talked about me helping him with his draft decision.
这功劳可不能算在我头上。
I can't take that credit.
但我一直很看重的一点，就是试着帮年轻人看清大局，让他们明白职业体育背后的真相。
However, one thing I've always appreciated is trying to help young guys see the bigger picture, trying to help young guys see the business for what it is.
就是想把自己的一些经验，跟年轻一代分享一下。
Just overall trying to share my experience with younger guys.
威尔和理查德，我的新人，主动联系了我。
And Will, Richard, my my rook, he reached out to me.
你知道，托马斯就是那个年轻人。
You know, Thomas is is his young fellow.
他联系了我，说：‘德雷蒙德，我有个年轻人想请教一下选秀建议。’
And he reached out to me and he said, man, Draymond, my young fellow wants some draft advice.
威尔经常来找我帮忙解决各种问题。
And Will comes to me for a lot of things.
我觉得威尔会把我说的每句话都记在本子上，这真让人惊讶。
I think Will keep a notebook of like things you tell him, which is incredible.
他吸收得特别快。
He's a sponge.
他来找过我。
He came to me.
他说：‘我那个年轻人要给你打电话。’
He's like, you know, my young fella gonna call me.
他想问问选秀方面的建议。
He wants some draft advice.
你在想什么？
What are you thinking?
我们就开始聊起，如果他回去，大概能拿到多少钱。
And he was and and, you know, we started talking about, like, the number he could possibly get if he went back.
当他告诉我，如果他留在佛罗里达，能赚多少百万时。
And when he told me the number that he would get, meaning the number in millions that he'd make if he stayed at Florida.
我当时就说，这还用想吗。
I was like, oh, no question.
你还是回去吧。
You should go back.
等我们跟托马斯通上电话，发现实际数字比威尔告诉我的还要高。
Once we got on the phone with Thomas, the number was actually higher than Will actually thought or had told me it was.
一听这数字比预期还高，我立马就说，对，兄弟。
Once he told me the number was higher, my answer was already like, yeah, bro.
回学校吧。
Go back to school.
但他告诉我那个数字更高之后，回去上学就更不用犹豫了。
But once he told me the number was higher, it was even more of a no brainer to go back to school.
首先，托马斯从小就是佛罗里达盖特队的球迷。
But number one, Thomas grew up a Florida Gator fan.
他全家都是狂热的盖特队支持者。
Family are big time Gator fans.
所以佛罗里达是他梦寐以求的学校。
And so Florida's his dream school.
他已经在那儿拿过一次全国冠军了。
He's won a national championship there.
明年他回来，还有机会再夺一次全国冠军，甚至竞争年度最佳球员，而且那年的选秀行情也更差。
Gonna come back next year and have an opportunity to win a second national championship possibly, possibly compete for a national player of the year and a much weaker draft.
而且他能赚到不少钱。
And he's gonna make really good money.
那可是将近一千一百万美元的收入，跟NBA球员的合同完全不是一个量级。
That's $10.99 income as opposed to w two income that NBA players make.
他将会成为一代Gator传奇，尤其考虑到他从小在这么一个狂热的Gator粉丝家庭长大。
And he's gonna solidify himself as one of the greatest Gators ever for a guy who grew up in a family of Gator fans.
我觉得，再好不过了。
I just don't know how it gets much better than that.
再说，今年的选秀整体水平偏低，明年他甚至可能把选秀顺位再往上提一提。
Again, in a much weaker draft where he could possibly even raise his draft stock even more next year.
我跟他说过一件事，听好了。
One thing I told him, alright.
但现在你得真刀真枪地去练。
Now but you gotta go do the work.
明年回来的时候，你得比现在更强。
You have to come back next year better than you are right now.
所以你得去下功夫。
So you gotta go do the work.
但我认为，回学校继续念书是正确的选择。
But I think it's the right decision to go back to school.
我真的说不准哪个决定才是对的。
Like, I I can't tell you what's the right decision.
但听了你讲的这些，还有所有相关的背景，我觉得回学校继续读书是个很棒的选择。
But and just listening to everything you say and the amount of all the circumstances around it, I think going back to school is is is a great decision.
我们最后确实聊过这件事。
And we had that conversation ultimately.
我不觉得是我让他爸决定回学校读书的，但我总是很乐意帮忙。
I don't think I was the reason daddy went back to school, but I I'm always happy to try to help.
只要是能帮到年轻小伙子们，不管是做决定还是提建议，我都非常愿意。
Any young guy I can help in in whether it's decision making, some advice, whatever it is, I'm always happy to do it.
我很高兴能跟托马斯聊聊，跟他分享一些想法，也很开心威尔愿意信任我，把他的年轻人托付给我。
So I was happy to to talk to Thomas and kinda share some thoughts with him and happy that Will trusted me with his, you know, his young fellow.
这挺有意思的。
It's fun.
整个过程都很有意思。
It's a fun process.
不过我 definitely 想祝托马斯今年好运，毕竟这可是个重大决定。
But definitely wanna wish Thomas good luck this year as he, you know, as he it's a big decision to make.
我觉得很多人没意识到，或者根本没看清，这种决定有多重大，但确实非同小可。
I don't think people realize, you know, or recognize how big those decisions are, but it's a very big decision to make.
而且，他最后还是回去了。
And, you know, he he went back.
我希望他这一年一切顺利。
I hope he have a great year.
我为他的健康祈祷。
Praying for his health.
太了不起了。
Incredible.
而且他完全有能力把选秀行情推得更高。
And and build that draft stock up even higher because I think he's more than capable of doing that.
接下来我们聊聊NBA选秀。
Now we will get into the NBA draft.
前四个顺位分别是华盛顿、犹他、孟菲斯和芝加哥。
First four picks, Washington, Utah, Memphis, and Chicago.
今年一直公认的前四新秀是A.J.德冯扎、达伦·彼得森、卡姆·布泽尔和凯莱布·威尔逊。
Consensus top four all year, all along has been AJ DeVonza, Darren Peterson, Cam Boozer, and Caleb Wilson.
太惊人了。
Incredible.
前四顺位简直太出色了。
Absolutely incredible top four.
对于华盛顿来说，这届选秀真是又幸运又有点倒霉。
It's one of those drafts where Washington, you're lucky, but you're a bit unlucky.
之所以说又幸运又倒霉，是因为这届新秀太强了，排在你们后面的二、三、四顺位球队，基本上都能捡到好球员，全靠华盛顿选了谁。
And the reason you're a bit unlucky but lucky is because the draft's so great that the two, three, or fourth the second, third, or fourth pick, the two or three teams behind you are essentially gonna get to draft a player by default based on what Washington get in.
孟菲斯也能跟着选，看犹他选了谁；芝加哥则要看前三顺位选完之后剩下谁。
Then Memphis will get to draft one of players by default or based on what what Utah does, and Chicago will be draft one of the guys on default based on what the top three does.
有时候，靠别人选完之后再挑，反而更占便宜。
And sometimes it just works better for the person that drafts by default.
这些年我们早就见过了。
We've seen it over the years.
以前格雷格·奥尔登和凯文·杜兰特的时候就发生过。
Saw it with Greg Olden and Kevin Durant.
现在我们又看到好几次了，真没想到他们居然选了这个人。
We've seen this now on several different occasions of, man, they took that guy.
好吧。
Alright.
我就选这个了。
Well, I'm a go with this one.
这个球员的潜力反而比那个更大。
And this one pans out to be more than that one.
这种事常有。
It happens.
虽然谈不上一致看法，但很多人都觉得AJ·德博斯会是状元。
There's been a consensus that or not a consensus, but a lot of people think AJ DeBos is going number one.
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很多人认为达伦·彼得森会是第二顺位。
And a lot of people have said Darren Peterson's going number two.
但现在出现了一个意外情况：达伦·彼得森决定不去犹他队试训。
Now there's been an interesting monkey wrench thrown in the mix, which is Darren Peterson decided he wasn't working out for Utah.
他只去了华盛顿和孟菲斯两支球队试训。
He only worked out for Washington and Memphis.
我得跟你们说件事。
Let me tell you all something.
犹他爵士队对达伦·彼得森的了解已经足够全面了。
The Utah Jazz know everything they want and need to know about Darren Peterson.
他来不来试训，他们根本不在乎。
They don't give a shit whether he come in there and work out or not.
你去问问斯蒂芬·库里。
Ask Steph Curry.
斯蒂芬·库里根本没去勇士队试训，也不想加盟勇士，反而去周边球队试训，还让那些球队别选他。
Steph Curry did not work out for the Golden State Warriors, did not wanna go to Golden State, worked out for the teams around Golden State, and asked them not to draft him.
十八年过去了，他一直待在那支球队。
Eighteen years later, he's been with that same team the whole time.
所以他去不去试训，其实都没啥影响。
So it don't really matter if he work out for them or not.
如果他们真想选达伦·彼得森，到了选人的时候，他们还是会选他。
If they wanna drive Darren Peterson when it comes to their comes time for their pick, they're gonna drive Darren Peterson.
他们根本不在乎他试训表现怎么样。
They don't give a shit how he works out.
他们已经足够了解他了。
They know enough.
不过我觉得，大家对这件事的解读有点过度了。
So, however, I think people are making a little bit more of that of what necessarily it means.
这真的一点意义都没有。
It really doesn't mean anything.
在这四个顶尖新秀里，我觉得每个人都是特别有天赋的。
Now of these top four guys, I think they're all special talents.
我觉得AJ DeBonsa就像个大孩子。
I think AJ DeBonsa is the man child.
他就是那种什么都准备好了的人。
He is the one that's like everything ready.
身体条件上，他心理素质也到位了，为这一天已经准备了这么久。
Physically, seems like he has the mentals, been preparing for this for so long.
这就是AJ DeBosso。
Like, that's AJ DeBosso.
Darren Peterson的球技，这种水平可不多见。
Darren Peterson has this skill level that you only see every so often.
没几个人能有这种本事。
Only a few guys have.
那是非常非常特别的球技。
A very, very special skill level.
顶尖的得分手，敢投关键球，还特别能扛压。
Elite shot maker, tough shot taker, eat and tough shot maker.
不管你怎么要求，他都能稳稳当当地给你把球投进，流畅得不得了。
However you want it, he can get you a buck as smooth as hell, like super silky smooth.
卡姆·布泽从一进来的那一刻起，就显然是个2010年级别的球员。
Cam Boozer is probably a twenty ten guy from the time he walked in.
但他有没有大家期待的一号秀那种潜力呢？
But does he have the potential that everyone looks for in the number one pick?
我说不准他没有。
I don't know that he doesn't.
他赢球，而且基本功扎实，像蒂姆·邓肯那样，根本不需要炸裂表现，就已经非常出色了。
He wins, and he's fundamentally sound Tim Duncan never had to blow you through the roof, yet he was so great.
他是我们见过的最伟大的球员之一。
He's one of the greatest players we've ever seen.
但从娱乐性来看，他的表现并不怎么抓人眼球。
But it wasn't like gonna jump off the page at you from a from a entertainment standpoint.
所以，娱乐性可能不高，但实际产出的价值却非常高。
So call it low on entertainment value of it, but very high on the production value of it.
我觉得那就是蒂姆·邓肯。
And I think that was Tim Duncan.
你看看卡姆·布泽尔，他的风格也差不多。
And you look at Cam Boozer, he has a similar theme.
我不是说卡姆·布泽尔会成为蒂姆·邓肯。
Not saying Cam Boozer's gonna be Tim Duncan.
我不确定。
I don't know that.
蒂姆·邓肯是我们见过最出色的四号位球员。
Tim Duncan's greatest power forward we've ever seen play.
我的意思是，不是说他一点亮点都没有。
But what I'm saying, it's not like there's no wow to it.
就是一场接一场，持续不断的胜利。
It's just results after results after results after results.
然后还有凯莱布·威尔逊。
And then you got Caleb Wilson.
我觉得凯莱布·威尔逊可能是这群人中最特别的一个。
And I actually think Caleb Wilson may be the most special of the group.
凯莱布·威尔逊真的很强，但我觉得他还是有点笨手笨脚的。
Caleb Wilson is so good, and I think he's still clumsy.
他现在连走路和嚼口香糖都顾不过来，可已经这么厉害了。
Like, I think he's still clumsy and can't really walk and chew gum at the same time, and yet he's already that good right now.
如果他现在这么笨拙都能做到这一步，等他身体完全长开、不再那么笨拙的时候，会变成什么样？
So if this guy is still clumsy and he's that good right now already, man, what happens when he continue to grow into this body and he ain't clumsy no more?
你根本没法专心看他打球，太让人分心了。
He don't even some you watch him play.
他做的那些事，自己都没意识到有多厉害，根本不知道自己在干什么。
Some of the stuff he'd be doing, he don't even realize he don't even seem like he realized what he's doing.
他就是自然而然地做出来了。
He just doing it.
我觉得凯莱布·威尔逊有可能成为这次选秀中最出色的球员。
I think Caleb Wilson could potentially be the best player in this draft.
有人说他的最低水平是保罗·米尔斯ap，最高潜力是凯文·加内特。
Saw people saying, like, his floor was Paul Millsap, and his ceiling was Kevin Garnett.
当然，这绝不是对加内特的不敬。
And no disrespect to KG.
加内特绝对是咱们这一代见过的顶级四号位之一。
KG's probably top three power four we've ever seen in our lifetime.
加内特这个人，真是没得说。
KG is man, what?
拼劲儿，还有那种全面性，全都有。
Tenacity, all of that.
我觉得凯莱布·威尔逊，
I think Caleb Wilson.
当然，他得真下功夫，不可能一来就这么厉害。
Now, obviously, you gotta do the work, and he ain't gonna walk in like this.
但以他的天赋而言，只要肯努力，我觉得他的最低水准其实都已经接近凯文·加内特了。
But the type of talent he is, barring that he goes to do the work, the type of talent I actually think his floor is Kevin Garnett.
要是他的底线都是凯文·加内特，天哪。
And, man, if that's your floor, oh my god.
你知道加内特有多厉害吗？
You know how great KG was?
我觉得凯莱布·威尔逊的底线，其实都能是凯文·加内特。
I actually think Caleb Wilson Kevin Garnett could be his floor.
我觉得凯莱布·威尔逊真的太特别了。
That's how special I think Caleb Wilson is.
所以这前四顺位，不管谁选了，都会白捡一个顶级球员，光是因为别人选了谁，他就自动变得超凡了。
So that top four, someone's gonna get a great guy, great player, transcendent by default because of who someone else drafted.
这种时候重排选秀顺位、回头看看，真的特别有意思，你会说：天啊，他们居然选了这个人。
And those are always fun to do the redrafts and look back and be like, man, they went with this guy.
毫不夸张地说，我对他的顶尖水平非常满意。
Needless to say, very pleased with the top of his class.
简直不可思议。
It's incredible.
我永远忘不了几年前去看布雷蒙德·巴里对泰勒斯·斯托克斯的比赛。
I'll never forget going to see Braymond Barry's play against Tyrus Stokes a couple years ago.
特拉维斯·沃尔登跟我说，这家伙是全美第十、第十一号球员。
And Travis Walden said to me, he said, man, he, you know, he the number ten, eleven player in the country.
我对他说，特拉维斯，我可是亲眼看过布雷蒙德打球的。
I said, Trav, I watched Braymond play.
你跟我说，全国有十个人比他强？
I said, man, you telling me it's 10 guys better than him?
现在我明白原因了。
Now I see why.
尤其是顶尖这批球员，水平真是离谱。
Class, especially at the top is is insane.
传统老派银行总爱收月费，还乱收透支罚款，但Chime正在改变人们的理财方式。
You know traditional old banks love charging you monthly fees and hit you with crazy overdraft penalties, but Chime is changing the way people bank.
他们提供零手续费的银行服务，专为普通人设计，不是给那1%的人准备的，还有成千上万个免手续费的ATM，毕竟你凭什么要为取自己的钱付钱？
They offer fee free banking built for you, not the 1%, with thousands of fee free ATMs because you shouldn't have to pay to access your own money.
说实话，我年轻的时候要是有这个，可就太好了。
Honestly, my younger self would have benefited so much from this.
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Head to chime.com/draymond.
网址是 chime.com/draymond。
That is chime.com/draymond.
注册只需要几分钟。
It only takes a few minutes to sign up.
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Chime is a fintech, not a bank.
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父亲节马上就要到了。
Father's Day is right around the corner.
如果你还在为给家里的爸爸买什么礼物发愁，那我来帮你解决。
And if you're still figuring out what to get the dad in your life, I've got you covered.
本节目由 Raycon 赞助。
This message is sponsored by Raycon.
Raycon 的这款开放式耳机简直是革命性的，感觉就是专门为爸爸们设计的。
Raycon's essential open earbuds have been a total game changer, and it feels like they were made for dads.
不管他是散步、在院子里忙活，还是根本闲不住，这副耳机他一定会用上。
Whether he's out for walks, around the yard, or just never indoors, these will get used.
耳机挂在耳外，音质清晰通透，同时还能让你听见周围的声音。
These earbuds sit just outside your ear canal, giving you incredibly clear sound while keeping you aware of your surroundings.
它们特别轻，还带可旋转的耳挂，戴得稳又舒服。
They're super light with a rotating earhook, so they actually stay put and stay comfortable.
不管一天安排了什么活动——去健身房、跑腿、在家待着，我都特别喜欢这款耳机，既能听到周围的声音，又能享受出色的音质。
No matter what the day has in store, going to the gym, running errands, being around my house, I love these because I can hear what's going on around me but still have a great sound.
Raycon 拥有超过三百万用户，音质不输任何高端品牌，还提供三十天无理由退换保障。
Raycon has over 3,000,000 customers, sound quality that rivals the most expensive brands, and a thirty day guarantee.
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Now is a great time to buy because they're 15% off.
为你的日常体验升级一下吧。
Upgrade your DAS everyday routine.
前往 buy.raycon.com/draymond 开头，立享八五折优惠。
Go to buy raycon.com/draymond open to get 15% off.
谢谢 Raycon。
Thank you, Raycon.
夏天的高温彻底改变了我的穿衣方式。
The summer heat completely changes how I dress.
我就想找些更轻盈、更透气的衣物。
I just want pieces that feel lighter and more breathable.
衣服要穿得轻松自然，但看起来依然得体。
Clothes that are effortless but still make me look put together.
这正是我不断回头买Quince的原因。
That is exactly why I keep coming back to Quintz.
他们专注做高品质的基础款，比如透气的亚麻和超柔软的有机棉，给你做工精良的日常单品，却没有任何奢侈品牌的溢价。
They focus on high quality essentials like breathable linen and ultra soft organic cotton giving you those well made basics without the ridiculous luxury markup.
你一定要看看他们的欧洲亚麻衬衫。
You'll definitely have to check out European linen button downs.
这简直是夏日穿搭的终极升级款，起价只要34美元。
They are the ultimate warm weather upgrade and start at just $34.
我个人特别喜欢他们的T恤。
Personally, I love the t shirts.
Quince的T恤柔软得不得了，轻薄的棉质毛衣也特别适合夏天傍晚微凉的时候穿。
Quince has incredibly soft tees and lightweight cotton sweaters that are perfect for those cooler summer nights.
说实话，他们所有产品的价格都比同类奢侈品牌低50%到80%，因为他们直接和负责任的工厂合作，完全跳过了中间商。
Honestly, everything they make is priced 50 to 80% less than similar luxury brands because they partner directly with ethical factories cutting out the middleman entirely.
而且，他们的产品远不止服装，还有高品质的床上用品和厨具。
Plus, they go way beyond clothing with premium bedding and cookware.
提升你的夏季衣橱。
Elevate your summer wardrobe.
前往 quince.com/draymond，享受免费配送和365天无理由退换。
Go to quince.com/draymond for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty five day returns.
现在加拿大也能购买了。
Now available in Canada too.
记得访问 quince.com/draymond，享受免费配送和365天无理由退换。
That's quince.com/draymond for free shipping and three hundred and sixty five day returns.
quince.com/draymond。
Quince.com/draymond.
你把那四个人换掉之后，球队实力依然很强。
So you get rid get out of those four guys, and it's still very strong.
不过你还有一批后卫，比如基顿·瓦格纳、达里乌斯·阿卡夫、迈克·L·布朗、金斯顿·弗莱明斯和布拉登·巴里。
But then you got kind of a group of guards, Keaton Wagner, Darius Acuff, Mike L Brown Mike L Brown, Kingston Flemings, Braden Barrys.
然后你就开始进入这一批人了。
Then you start to get into that group.
雅克索·兰登堡也在这一批人里面。
Yaxo Landenburg would be in that mix.
内特·阿门特，很多人都把他列入下一波潜力新秀的名单里。
Nate Ament, a lot of people are putting in that mix of next kind of wave of guys.
来自密歇根的阿德·马拉也被纳入了这个群体。
Ade Mara from Michigan has been thrown into that mix.
说实话，我觉得这些年轻球员，现实是并不是每个人都能成功。
And quite honestly, I think all these young guys, you know, the reality is all of them won't make it.
这行就是这样，竞争太激烈了。
That's just the nature of this business win.
不是每个人都能成功。
All of them won't make it.
我知道你们都清楚，我特别看好达里乌斯·阿克夫。
And I'm very big on Darius Acuff Junior, as you all know.
我觉得他投篮、组织、心态、节奏变化，还有体型和力量，这些方面都特别出色。
I think he with his shot making ability, his playmaking ability, his temperament, change of speed, like, think size, strength, all that.
所有这些特质都说明他完全有潜力在这联盟里长期担任首发控卫。
I think all of that bodes well for him being a starting point guard in this league for a long time.
所以我对他评价很高，同时我也非常看好布拉登·伯罗斯。
So I'm very high on him, and I'm also very high on Braden Burrows.
布拉登·伯罗斯在亚利桑那大学的表现，我不是在贬低亚利桑那。
I think Braden Burrows at Arizona and this is no disrespect to Arizona.
只是大学篮球里，当你加入更强的球队时，情况往往就是这样。
This is just how it happens in college when you go on better teams.
我觉得他实际发挥的水平，远比大家看到的要好得多。
I think I think Braden Burrows didn't as as good of a year as he ultimately end up having.
他根本没把真正的能力展现出来，连皮毛都没摸到。
I don't think he even scratched the surface of showing people what he's actually capable of.
如果你只看过他在亚利桑那的比赛，那你根本不知道这孩子有多厉害。
Like, I think if you if you've only seen Braden Burry's at Arizona, you actually have no idea how good this kid is.
我觉得这孩子真的很特别。
I think this kid is special.
布雷登·巴罗斯其实是个后起之秀，才慢慢进入前十讨论的，但我真觉得他非同寻常。
And so Braden Burry's, you know, he's been a late riser into the top 10 conversation, but I I I think he's special.
我发自内心地相信，布雷登·巴罗斯是个天才。
I truly, in my heart, believe Braden Burry is special.
奥达西·马尔。
Audacy Marr.
过去几年，我们看到像扎克·埃迪这样的球员，球队反而会高顺位选中大个子。
Over the last couple years, we've seen the Zach Edies, you know, where they're starting back drafting big man high.
说到德马尔，大家都知道他大概会在前十五顺位被选走。
You know, I think of DeMar, we see him go off the board top 15.
我觉得他不可能滑到第十二顺位之后。
I don't think he gets past the 12 or 13 pick.
他绝对进不了第十二顺位。
I don't think he gets past 12.
他最近表现很棒，训练状态极好，投篮手感特别顺。
You know, he's been great, have having some great workouts, shooting the ball really well.
纳特·阿米特这个人，大家都觉得你必须赌一把这孩子。
Nate Amitt seems to be the guy that everyone's like, yo, you gotta take a swing on this kid.
他要么一飞冲天，要么彻底失败。
He's either gonna be boom or bust.
以他的身高和技术，他有可能成为那种在NBA比在大学打得更好的球员。
And, you know, I think, you know, with his length, skill set, he could be one of the players that are better in the NBA than they are at the college game.
大学篮球和职业篮球完全是两码事。
The college game is a different game.
有些球员一离开大学，他们的球风反而更适合NBA。
And there are some guys that just leave college and they're better their game is better suited in the NBA than it is in college.
我觉得这背后一定有某种深层次的天赋和潜力。
I think that's what's I think that has to be some innate, immense deal.
我觉得对他说，NBA可能比大学更适合他。
Like, I think the NBA may be a better game for him than college was.
大学篮球身体对抗特别激烈。
College is extremely physical.
NBA的身体对抗没那么强。
The NBA isn't as physical.
有时候也有，
At times, it is.
但整个赛季下来，总体没那么凶狠。
But throughout the course of the season, it's not as physical.
你明白吧？
You know?
所以我觉得，对他来说，大学比赛可能比NBA更难适应。
So I think for him, you know, college could possibly be tougher for him than the NBA.
他的技术在NBA反而更能发挥出来。
His skill may be able to shine through more in the NBA.
我觉得内特真是个非常有潜力的球员。
So I think Nate immense a very interesting prospect.
莫里斯·约翰逊二世，你知道的，这小伙子在联合试训后受益匪浅，在密歇根大学打出了一个出色的赛季。
Morris Johnson junior, you know, a guy who really benefited a ton from the combine, had a great year at Michigan.
很多球队现在对他都很放心，觉得他一进来就能立刻贡献，尤其是在防守端。
A lot of teams have grown comfortable with him coming in and contributing right away, especially on a defensive end.
很多人觉得他移动能力够好，完全不用担心他是个六尺九寸的中锋——只要把他的投篮练出来，再结合他现有的防守方式，完全可以把他往大前锋位置上移。
You know, I think a lot of people feel like he can move well enough to where they're not hell bent or overly worried that he's a six nine center because if you develop that jump shot and develop his game with the way he defends, you can slide him over to the four.
所以整个选秀前的这段时间，他真的把自己推到了一个非常好的位置。
And so, you know, he's benefited himself really, really well throughout this predraft process.
然后还有新西兰破坏者队的卡里姆·洛佩兹。
Then you got New Zealand breakers, Karim Lopez.
他很可能是第一个被选中的外籍球员。
Likely the first foreign player off the board.
我说的是排除阿德马尔，虽然他是在美国打球的。
I mean, excluding Adeymar who but he played in The States.
但卡里姆·洛佩兹，应该是第一个出生在国外、然后被选中的球员。
But Karim Lopez is probably the first born player off the board.
去年他在新西兰破晓者队场均得到16.7分。
He averaged 17 16.7 points a game last year for the New Zealand breakers.
听我说。
Listen.
你去欧洲或者澳大利亚选人，总是得担心他的打法能不能适应NBA。
I think when you go European, when you go Australia, I think you're always taking a risk on does the game translate.
我看过卡里姆·洛佩斯的比赛，我觉得他的技术完全能适应这里。
I've watched Karim Lopez play, and I definitely think his game translates.
但这始终是大家最担心的问题。
But that's ultimately usually the worry.
不过随着欧洲球员的成功，这种顾虑已经减轻了不少。
And it's subsided a bit with the success of the Europeans.
早些年，情况确实不一样。
But early on, years ago, it used to be as such.
那时候如果你拿不定主意，大家都不知道该选谁，因为总有人说欧洲球员身体软、速度不够快。
Like, if you kind of on the fence, People didn't know which way to go because it it it was just like Europeans, they are you know, some people say, oh, they're soft or they don't they're not fast enough.
我还不够强。
I'm not strong enough.
这在现实中行不通。
It doesn't translate.
很多球员已经证明了这种能力是可以适应的，看法也有所改变，但还是有人持怀疑态度。
I think a lot of guys have shown it that it does translate and that that view is a little different, but there's still some skepticism at times.
最让人意外留在选秀名单上的名字是皮特，他放弃了在亚利桑那大学剩下的参赛资格，直接宣布参加NBA选秀。
One of the most surprised names that stayed in the draft was called Pete, who said he was bypassing his the rest of his eligibility at Arizona and heading into the NBA Draft.
很多人对他投篮能力不太看好。
And a lot of people are down on his shooting ability.
他们觉得这会让他跌出乐透区。
They say that it will drop him out of the of the lottery.
听好了。
Listen.
你可以做的一件事是，我觉得投篮是可以练出来的。
One thing you can do is I I think you can you can work on a jump shot.
有些东西，我真的不知道能不能教得会。
The things that does, I don't know that you can teach.
身材这么高大，爆发力这么强，还能打多个位置，凭借他的爆发力，他能在NBA成为出色的扣篮终结者和顶级防守者。
Being that size, being that explosive, being able to, you know, play different multiple positions, He can be a great dunker finisher in the NBA with his explosiveness and a great defender.
你明白吧？
You know?
最重要的是，我觉得他是个赢家。
So and most importantly, I think a winner.
科尔·皮特是个赢家。
Cole Pete is a winner.
他打的是赢球的篮球，他做的就是赢球的事。
Plays winning basketball, makes winning basketball, plays.
他可能会跌出乐透区。
So he may slide out the lottery.
他甚至可能掉到二十名开外。
He may drop in the twenties.
如果他真的这么做了，其实对他反而更好。
It it would actually be better for him if he did.
因为如果他被选在第27位，那是个不错的球队。
Because if he goes 27, that's a good team.
如果他落到第24位，那也是个好球队。
If he goes 24, it's a good team.
为了让科尔·皮特的天赋真正发挥出来，最好让他去一支强队。
And for Cole Pete to his talents to shine through, you wanna see him on a good team.
所以，总的来说，我觉得这算是选秀中挺有意思的一个情况，但我能理解他为什么这么做。
So, ultimately, I think this was one of the more interesting ones of standing in the draft, but I do understand why he did it.
杰登·昆顿斯过去几年因为前十字韧带受伤，几乎没打多少比赛，今年也只打了四场，主要是出于保护膝盖的考虑。
Jayden Quontons, who hasn't played a bunch over the last couple years due to ACL injury, played just four games this year due to that knee injury and and just taking some precautions.
他是那种你一看身体条件就觉得有潜力的球员，但我没看过他打够多的比赛，没法放心说他该被选中。
He's one of the guys that you know, I've seen the physical traits and all of that, but I just haven't seen him play enough basketball for me to be comfortable saying he should be drafted or should.
我对他了解得太少了，因为他伤病太多，根本没机会多看他打球。
I I just don't know enough about him because he's been hurt a lot, and I just haven't had the opportunity to see him play much.
最后，我要向我的几位学长致敬。
And then lastly, you know, shout out to my seniors.
约克恩的亚历克斯·卡拉万、普渡大学的布拉登·史密斯，还有阿肯色大学的德雷蒙德·巴西。
Yukon's Alex Caravan, Purdue's, Braden Smith, Arkansas's, Draymond, Brazil.
他们都被预测会在第二轮被选中。
They're all projected to go on the second round.
听我说，兄弟们。
Let me tell y'all something, fellas.
这没什么不对的。
Ain't nothing wrong with it.
你能更快拿到薪水，但得去拼、去闯。
You get to the money faster, you just gotta go grind and take it.
搞清楚自己在哪儿能发挥最大价值，在球队里找到最适合你的位置，然后全力以赴。
Figure out where it is where you can add value the most, add the most value on a team and do that.
专心致志，盯紧这个方向，不断精进。
Lock in on that, focus on that, get better and better at that.
这最终会给你机会去展示你真正擅长的东西。
That will ultimately allow you the ability or opportunity to then go show what it is that you think you're great at.
我觉得这本身就是投入的一部分。
And I think that that's all a part of buy in.
有时候你看到有些球员卡在那儿，就是因为他们没真正投入进去。
Sometimes that's why you see some guys struggling necessarily can't get over the hump because they don't necessarily take part in the buy in.
所以我觉得，这就是球员们该做的事。
And so I think that's what, you know, guys have to do.
给那些预计在第二轮被选中的老将们点个赞。
And so shout out to the guys projecting the second round that are seniors.
你可能会被忽略，但你之所以是现在的你，一定有原因。
You're gonna get overlooked, but you are who you are for a reason.
我站在你这边。
And I'm I'm in your corner.
我懂这其中的滋味。
I know how it go.
大家总是动不动就说，天哪。
You know, off all the time, everybody wanna say, oh, man.
这人年纪太大了。
Like, that guy's too old.
他在大学待得太久了。
He been in college too long.
所以你是说，我确实有经验，但很多时候别人并不看重。
So you're saying I got some good experience, but they don't honor it most times.
希望他们能认可这些球员的付出，我真的很尊重他们的努力。
So hopefully, you know, they honor these guys and the work that they put in because I respect it.
至于我，运气还算不错。
And it ain't go so bad for me.
再次感谢大家收看德雷蒙德·格林秀。
I wanna thank you all again for tuning in to the Draymond Green Show.
我们下次再见。
Until next time.
应用
App.
顺便在应用里给个五星好评，写点评论吧。
And while you're there, go ahead and drop a five star rating and leave a review.
我想听听你的想法，如果你觉得朋友也会喜欢，顺手分享一下，我会非常感激。
I wanna hear what you think, and it would also mean a ton to me if you share it with a friend that you think would enjoy it.
咱们一起把这节目做得更大。
Let's keep this thing growing.
《德雷蒙德·格林秀》由Audacy出品，与New Media联合制作。
The Draymond Green Show is presented by Audacy and executive produced in conjunction with the new media.
执行制片人是莉亚·里斯·丹尼斯、丹尼·弗赖辛格和格雷格·霍尔茨曼。
Our executive producers are Leah Reese Dennis, Danny Friesinger, and Greg Holtzman.
视频制作与创意设计由库尔特·考特尼、蒂姆·迈克尔、劳伦·维拉和埃文·奥布莱恩负责。
Video production and creative design by Kurt Courtney, Tim Meikle, Lauren Vieira, and Evan O'Brien.
特别感谢New Media和Audacy的团队。
Special thanks to the team at the New Media and the team at Audacy.
莫拉·柯兰、约瑟菲娜·弗朗西斯、希拉里·沙夫、埃里克·多内利、凯特·罗斯、科林·盖诺尔和杰克·盖利。
Maura Curran, Josefina Francis, Hillary Shuff, Eric Donnelly, Kate Rose, Colin Gaynor, and Jake Galley.
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