与Stacia Mills博士一起探索备孕期间的心理健康指南

欢迎收听《卵子 whisperer 秀》，这是一个旨在提高生殖健康意识并讨论您的生育力保存选择的播客。

Welcome to The Egg Whisperer Show, a podcast designed to create more reproductive health awareness and discuss your fertility preservation options.

有请主持人，哈佛毕业的生育专家，医生。

Here's your host, the Harvard educated fertility specialist, Doctor.

艾米。

Aimee.

欢迎收听《卵子 whisperer 秀》。

Welcome to The Egg Whisperer Show.

我很高兴今天请到了我的好朋友、精神科医生，医生。

I am delighted to have my dear friend and psychiatrist, Doctor.

斯塔西娅·米尔斯来到今天的节目。

Stacia Mills on today's show.

欢迎你，斯塔西娅。

Welcome, Stacia.

非常感谢你邀请我。

Thank you so much for having me.

我很高兴你能来，因为在备孕过程中，心理健康是我在患者开始这段旅程时最常跟他们聊的话题之一。

I'm so glad that you're here because mental wellness while trying to conceive is one of the most important things that I talk to my patients about at the beginning of their journey.

而且我一直很感谢你的帮助，你也帮了我很多病人。

And I've been so grateful to you for all your help as you've also helped so many of my patients as well.

这就是我们今天要聊的内容——备孕期间的心理健康指南。

That's what we're going to talk about today, a guide to mental wellness while trying to conceive.

我想让我们的听众和观众多了解你一些。

I'd like to share with our listeners and viewers more about you.

斯泰西娅·米尔斯医生

Dr.

是一位生殖精神科医生，目前在加州奥克兰提供远程医疗服务。

Stacia Mills is a reproductive psychiatrist currently providing telehealth services from Oakland, California.

她2006年在米尔斯学院获得生物心理学学士学位，2011年在加州大学旧金山分校获得医学学位，之后在南加州大学和洛杉矶县完成了住院医师培训。

She earned her bachelor's degree in biopsychology from Mills College in 2006 and her medical degree from UCSF in 2011, followed by a residency at the University of Southern California and LA County.

她在2015年完成了这个培训。

She completed this in 2015.

她热衷于在计划生育、怀孕和产后阶段支持女性的心理健康。

She is passionate about supporting women with their mental health during family planning, pregnancy, and postpartum phases.

2024年1月，博士

In January 2024, Dr.

米尔斯创立了自由精神病学，这是一家提供富有同情心、个性化心理健康的诊所，拥有更长的预约时间、整体疗法和远程医疗的便利。

Mills founded Freedom Psychiatry, a practice that offers compassionate, personalized mental health care with extended appointment times, a holistic approach, and the convenience of telehealth.

再次欢迎你，斯泰西娅。

Welcome again, Stacia.

非常感谢。

Thanks so much.

那我们开始吧。

So let's get started.

我想请你分享一下，是什么让你成为一名专注于计划生育、不孕不育、怀孕和产后心理健康的心理医生。

I'd love to have you share what led you to become a psychiatrist who specializes in the mental health of family planning, infertility, pregnancy, and postpartum.

其实走到这一步挺不容易的，但最开始是在我年轻的时候，而且我家里其实有不少精神疾病的历史。

So it was a little bit of a long road to get here, but it started out when I was younger and I actually have a somewhat extensive mental illness history in my family.

所以我很小的时候就知道，我想帮助别人保持心理健康，而且我也看到了这有多重要。

So I knew when I was quite young that I wanted to help people to feel mentally well and I was able to see how important it was.

那你能解释一下，为什么病人会选择看精神科医生，而你的诊所和比如说心理治疗师或心理学家有什么不同？

And can you explain why a patient would opt to see a psychiatrist and how your practice differs from, let's say, a therapist or psychologist?

其实这个问题我经常被问到。

I get this question all the time, actually.

心理治疗师其实是个统称，指的是提供谈话治疗的人。

So a therapist is kind of an umbrella term that talks about somebody who offers talk therapy.

那可能是心理咨询师，可能是社工，也可能是婚姻家庭治疗师。

So that could be a counselor, could be a social worker, could be a marriage and family therapist.

另外，也可能是心理学家，或者精神科医生。

Also, it could be a psychologist or it could be a psychiatrist.

所以如果你看的是心理治疗师，比如婚姻家庭治疗师、心理咨询师或社工，他们通常有硕士学位。

So if you're looking at someone who's a therapist who is a marriage and family therapist who is a counselor or a social worker, they're at master's level degree.

如果是心理学家，他们有博士学位，通常专注于研究、谈话治疗，或者两者兼顾。

If you're looking at a psychologist, they have a doctorate level, a PhD, and they usually will focus on either research, talk therapy, or both.

在美国某些州，他们有时可以开药，但只能开精神类药物。

Now, they sometimes in certain states in The United States are able to prescribe medications, but only mental health medications.

而且实际上，他们只上了八十小时的药理学课程。

And it's actually only after eighty hours of a pharmaceutical course.

另一方面，还有精神科医生，也就是我。

So on the other hand, you have a psychiatrist, which is what I am.

我是医学博士。

I'm an MD.

这意味着我经历了漫长的训练：四年本科，四年医学院，再加上四年的住院医师培训。

And so that means that I go through a long training, four years of undergrad, four years of medical school, then four more years of residency training.

这是专门针对精神科的。

That's special for psychiatry.

完成所有这些之后，我才能成为精神科医生，然后我可以开药。

After all of that, I can be a psychiatrist, and then I offer medications that I can prescribe.

通常人们选择看精神科医生，是因为他们想了解是否有药物可以帮助他们改善心理健康。

And usually people opt to see a psychiatrist because they're curious about learning more about any options with medications to help them with their mental health.

我觉得大家对药物如何帮助不孕不育患者了解得还不够。

I don't think there's enough awareness about how medications can help fertility patients.

而且很多时候，人们在自己的旅程中太晚才寻求帮助。

And a lot of times people reach out far too late in their journey.

这就是为什么我认为这次对话如此重要，这样患者就知道，如果他们感到抑郁或焦虑等症状，可以从一开始就来看你。

That's why I think this conversation is so important so that patients know that they can start seeing you from the very beginning if they're feeling symptoms like depression or anxiety.

这样他们就可以看看，比如，处方药是否从一开始就有帮助。

So they can see if, for example, prescription medication would be helpful from the beginning.

完全正确。

Absolutely.

所以你刚写了一本电子书，我真的很想聊聊，叫《备孕期间的心理健康简明指南》，我们会在节目笔记中放上链接，想要的人都可以获取。

So you just wrote an e book, which I'm really excited to talk about, A Brief Guide to Mental Healthness While Family Planning, and we'll link it in the show notes so anyone can get it if they would like.

你谈到了备孕的压力。

You discussed the stress of family planning.

在这段时间里，人们面临的最常见的心理健康挑战有哪些？

What are some of the most common mental health challenges people face during this time?

人们面临的最常见的心理健康挑战，至少就新诊断而言，就是像抑郁和焦虑这样的问题。

So the most common mental health challenges that people face, at least as far as new diagnoses come along, are things like depression and anxiety.

抑郁是指一个人连续两周或更长时间感到情绪低落或悲伤，并且伴随一些症状，比如睡眠和食欲紊乱、精力不足、注意力不集中、觉得什么都不好玩。

Now, depression is where someone is feeling down or sad for two weeks or more, and then there'll be symptoms that accompany it, like disturbances in sleep and appetite, low energy concentration problems, not feeling like anything's fun.

焦虑则有点不同，虽然也有相似之处，因为你常常会有食欲和睡眠紊乱，但你会对以前能应付自如的事情过度担忧。

Anxiety is a little different, though similar, because you often will have disturbances in appetite and sleep, but you'll be worrying excessively over things that you used to be able to keep in stride.

这听起来就像备孕的过程一样。

I mean, that kind of sounds like a fertility journey right there.

确实。

It's true.

有起有落。

Downs the highs and the lows.

你的生育治疗周期是两周。

Your fertility treatment's two weeks.

你不知道会发生什么。

You don't know what's going to happen.

你会感到难过。

You're sad.

你不想出门。

You don't want to leave the house.

你会焦虑。

You're anxious.

你总是担心。

You're always worrying.

所以我觉得把这些问题控制好非常重要。

So I feel like getting that in check is so important.

我认为，对于生育患者来说，最大的风险因素就是抑郁和焦虑。

The biggest risk factor for a fertility patient, I think, is depression and anxiety.

所以知道有像你这样的医生能帮忙，我觉得……那么，对于有心理健康问题、正在计划怀孕或接受生育治疗的人，你有什么建议？

So knowing that there are doctors like you out there to help with that, I think, is So what advice do you have for individuals with preexisting mental health concerns who are trying to plan for pregnancy or undergoing fertility treatment?

这个问题问得很好，我很高兴你提出来，因为我知道你非常重视生育规划，而我也非常重视心理健康规划。

So this is a great question and I'm glad that you asked it because I know that you're very big on planning for your fertility and I am super big on planning for your mental wellness.

所以，如果你知道自己有心理疾病，或者你发现自己有些症状，感觉不太舒服，在真正怀孕之前，最好的办法就是把你的支持系统安排好。

So if you are somebody who knows that you have a mental illness or you find that you're having symptoms that you're not feeling so well before you're actually going to become pregnant, the best thing is to get your support system in order.

这意味着两种不同的支持。

And that means two different kinds of supports.

一种是来自家人、朋友、社交圈的支持，另一种是心理健康方面的支持。

It means your support system for your family, your friends, your social support, and then also your support system for your mental health.

也就是任何能帮到你的心理健康专业人士。

So any mental health professionals that are able to help you.

而且，如果你去看生殖精神科医生，他们还可以帮你调整药物，这一点很重要。

With that, it's important to know that there are medications that they can also help you with if you see a reproductive psychiatrist.

另外，我想提醒大家的是，有趣的是，我们通常计划怀孕或计划生育的时候，往往也是我们可能开始出现抑郁、焦虑或其他心理疾病最初症状的时候。

The other thing I want to remind everyone is that around the time that we often are looking to conceive or family planning is the same time, interestingly, where we may start to show the first symptoms of depression, anxiety, or any mental illness.

这其实是独立的，只是碰巧和我们通常要孩子的时间差不多。

It actually is independent, it just happens to be about the same time that we tend to have babies.

所以基本上，人们开始组建家庭或扩大家庭的年龄，也正是更容易出现这些心理健康问题的年龄。

So it's basically around the age that people are starting their families or growing their families is around the same age where people are more prone to these kinds of mental health challenges.

很多心理健康问题其实是在你二十多岁、三十多岁，甚至有时候四十多岁的时候开始出现的。

A lot of mental health challenges are really starting in your 20s, 30s, and even sometimes in your 40s.

那对于那些已经在服药的患者呢？

So what about for patients who are already on medication?

在尝试怀孕或进行生育治疗期间，继续或开始服用精神科药物，他们需要了解什么？

What do they need to know about continuing or starting psychiatric medications while trying to conceive or while they're in fertility treatment?

你对他们有什么建议？

What advice do you have for them?

我首先想告诉大家的是，怀孕或进行生育治疗期间服用精神科药物，没有绝对的规定，虽然有一些，但大多数情况下没有硬性规定。

The first thing I like to tell people is that there's no hard and fast rules, well, a couple, but mostly no hard and fast rules for being pregnant or going through the fertility journey and psychiatric medications.

这完全是个案处理。

It's all case by case basis.

说到个案处理，我通常会告诉人们，我们会先看风险，首先是服药对你自身、胎儿以及哺乳期新生儿带来的风险，但也要考虑未治疗的心理健康问题在怀孕期间、在尝试与新生儿建立亲密关系时可能带来的风险，诸如此类。

So when we're talking about case by case, I usually tell people that we'll start and we'll look at risks, first thing of the risks of being on medications and to yourself and to the fetus and newborn during lactation, but then also the risks of having an untreated mental health condition while you're pregnant, while you're trying to bond with your newborn, those sorts of things.

因为如果你有未治疗的心理健康问题，可能会引起炎症，这对你和胎儿都有害。

Because if you have an untreated mental health condition, what can happen is it causes inflammation, which is harmful to you and it's harmful to the fetus.

而且你还会很难和新生儿建立亲密关系。

And then you have difficult time bonding with your newborn.

对，这确实是真的。

Yeah, that is also true.

我不知道你有没有注意到，我发现我那些在服用精神科药物的病人，有时候会因为太害怕停药而迟迟不敢要孩子，她们总觉得好像必须停药才行。

I don't know if you've noticed this, but I find my patients who are on psychiatric medications, sometimes they wait too long to grow their family because they're just so scared about stopping the medications because they feel like they need to for some reason.

所以我想对所有正在听这个节目的人说，你们真的不用害怕。

And so I just want to tell anyone out there who's listening to this that you don't need to be scared.

你会得到Stacia的支持，也会得到像我这样的生育医生的帮助。

You'll get support from Stacia, from a fertility doctor like me.

所以，了解这些信息真的很重要，这样你就不会对自己正在服用的药物和备孕这件事产生错误的假设。

And so it's really important to get educated about this so that you're not making assumptions that are incorrect about the medications you're taking and trying to conceive.

我很感谢你这么说，因为有时候人们去看医生，医生反而会告诉他们必须停掉所有药物。

I really appreciate you saying that because sometimes people will go to a doctor and a doctor will actually be the one to tell them that they have to get off of all of their medications.

但事实并非如此，因为我们希望每个人都能保持最好的状态，因为接下来会有很多变化，你需要以最好的自己去面对。

And that's just not the case because we want everyone to feel as well as possible because things are going to be different and they're going to be changing a lot and you want to be feeling your best self.

我觉得当医生对病人这么说的时候，基本上就是在说，我不想真正帮你。

And I feel like when a doctor is saying that to their patient, they're basically saying, I don't really want to help you in a way.

在生育治疗过程中，管理压力和强烈情绪可能会让人感到不知所措。

Managing stress and intense emotions during fertility treatment can be overwhelming.

你有哪些推荐的策略，能帮助人们应对这些治疗过程中常常伴随的情绪起伏？

What are some strategies you recommend to help individuals cope with the often emotional rollercoaster that accompanies these procedures?

对，我觉得首先最重要的是要记住，这个过程会有压力，而且常常会像你说的那样，情绪起伏不定，而且污名确实存在，而且非常真实。

Yeah, I think the first thing is what's most important is to remember that this is going to be stressful and it often will be, like you said, an emotional rollercoaster and that the stigma is there and it's very real.

在我们的文化里，我们并不接纳那些即将成为父母的人谈论他们的生育历程。

In our culture, we're not embracing people who are soon to be parents talking about their fertility journeys.

而且有时候家人也会施加各种压力，这很难，会让人感到孤立。

And then there's all this pressure from family members at times and it's difficult and it can make somebody feel isolated.

我想让每个人都知道，你并不孤单，有人会在这里支持你。

And I wanna let everybody know that you're not alone in this, that there are people that are here for you.

我想强调社会支持系统的重要性，要找那些不会给你压力的人，比如朋友、家人，任何你能找到的人。

I like to stress the importance of a social support system with people who are not gonna be pressuring you, your friends, family, anybody who you can find.

另外，还有一些人组织同伴支持小组，在心理健康诊所里也有这样的支持小组。

And also, there are people who do peer support groups and they do support groups at mental health clinics.

还有，

Also

一定要找一位精神科医生来帮你度过这个过程，因为我们就在这里，这就是我们的工作。

make sure that you get a psychiatrist there to help you out through this too, because we're here and this is what we do.

特别是如果你正在经历抑郁和焦虑，你产后患抑郁和焦虑的风险会更高。

And especially if you are experiencing depression and anxiety, you're at higher risk for postpartum depression and anxiety.

所以，在治疗早期就找到像你这样的精神科医生，我觉得非常有必要，这样医生就能非常了解你，等你分娩后如果遇到困难，你已经有联系了。

So finding a psychiatrist like you early in the journey, I think is really necessary so that person knows you really well so that when you deliver and if you're experiencing challenges, you're already plugged in.

你不需要在需要的时候才去重新建立与精神科医生的关系。

You don't have to start a new relationship with a psychiatrist at your time of need.

你的指南还强调了生活方式的改变对改善心理健康和生育能力的重要性。

So your guide also emphasizes lifestyle changes for improved mental health and fertility.

你能重点介绍一些生活方式上的建议，既能支持情绪健康，又能支持生殖健康吗？

Can you highlight a few lifestyle recommendations that can support both things, both emotional well-being and reproductive health?

当然可以。

Absolutely.

我很喜欢聊生活方式改变和营养的话题。

I love talking about lifestyle changes and nutrition.

我觉得最重要的是，先从最简单的产前维生素开始。

Most important, I think, is to start with very simply a prenatal vitamin.

我觉得这个很容易被忽略，因为大家都习惯吃复合维生素，但你真的应该从产前维生素开始，因为它会提供你需要的额外营养，也是胎儿需要的。

I think that's something that's easy to forget because we all like to take our multivitamins, but really you want to start with a prenatal one because it's going to give you extra nutrients that you're going to need and that your fetus is going to need.

所以这是第一点。

So that's number one.

然后第二点，我很喜欢聊营养。

Then number two, I love talking about nutrition.

营养真的非常重要。

Nutrition is really paramount.

我通常建议人们从观察自己目前的饮食习惯开始来改善营养。

I usually like to have people start with nutrition by looking at what they're currently eating.

所以要对自己非常诚实，找个安静的地方坐下来，写下你平时一天都吃些什么，然后认真看看，对自己说，好吧，如果感兴趣的话，我可以在哪些地方做些调整？

So being really honest with yourself, just sitting down by yourself in a quiet area, write down what you eat on an average day, and then really look at it and say to yourself, Okay, where can I make some tweaks if that's something you're interested in doing?

比如像汽水这类的东西。

So things like soda.

我特别喜欢告诉别人，嘿，汽水真的是很容易戒掉的东西，戒掉之后你会健康很多。

I love to tell people, Hey, soda is a real easy thing to knock out and make yourself so much healthier.

可以用水来代替它。

So replacing it with things like water.

如果你喜欢有味道的，那可以喝风味水。

If you like flavor, though, then you can have flavored water.

如果你想更讲究一点，还可以喝气泡水或者有味道的气泡水。

You can also have sparkling water or sparkling flavored water if you want to get really fancy.

另外，对于加工食品，你要尽量用天然食物来代替它们。

Also, with processed foods, you want to try to replace those as much as possible with things like whole foods.

我经常开玩笑说，Whole Foods 可不仅仅是一家超市。

And I always joke that, okay, whole foods is not just a grocery store.

它其实是完全来自大自然的可食用东西。

It's an actual edible item that's entirely from nature.

比如蔬菜、水果、瘦肉、鱼，还有全谷物。

Things like vegetables, fruits, lean meats and fish, and whole grains.

我就是希望大家尽量把这些食物纳入日常饮食中。

I just like people to, as much as possible, try to put those into their diet.

然后我最喜欢说的一句话就是，蔬菜永远不嫌多，因为我知道我们确实很难吃够蔬菜。

And then my favorite thing to say is that there's no such thing as too many vegetables because, really, I know we have a hard time eating vegetables.

这不一定总是最容易做到的事，但真的对健康特别好。

It's not the easiest thing to always do, but it's really, really good for you.

我还想强调一下运动。

I like to highlight doing exercise.

关于运动，我真正发现的一点是，最难的部分是坚持。

And the thing with exercise that I've really found is that the hardest part is sticking with it.

所以我喜欢告诉大家，去做你喜欢的运动。

And so what I like to tell people is to do something that you like.

如果你不喜欢去健身房，那就别办会员卡，因为那只会浪费你的钱。

If you don't like the gym, then don't get a membership because you'll just waste your money.

如果你喜欢跳舞，那就去上舞蹈课或者和朋友一起出去玩，但尽量别喝酒，这样才能保持健康。

If you like to dance, then take a dance class or go out with your friends, but just skip the alcohol to keep yourself as healthy as possible.

如果你有狗或者其他宠物，喜欢带它们出去散步，那就走得快一点，或者比平时走得更远一些。

If you have a dog or a pet that you like to walk outside, then walk briskly or walk further than usual.

最后一点就是睡眠。

And then the last thing is sleep.

这真的是最容易被忽视的生活方式建议之一。

That is one of the most overlooked lifestyle recommendations, really.

关于睡眠，有趣的是很多人不知道，规律充足的睡眠不仅对心理健康有好处，对生育能力也有好处。

And the interesting thing about sleep, a lot of people don't know that not only is it good for your mental health, it's also good for your fertility if you're getting consistent regular sleep.

补水、营养，这些都太重要了。

Hydration, nutrition, all of that is so important.

我很高兴你提到这一点，因为很多医生在跟病人交流时都不会提到这些。

And I'm glad that you bring that up because not many doctors do when they're talking to their patients.

所以你也强调这些我认为对生育有帮助的事情，这很好。

So it's good that you're also reinforcing the same things that I think can help with fertility also.

这太重要了。

That's huge.

我想聊聊你的工作如何也涵盖了所有家庭规划的过程，所有的。

So I want to talk a little bit about how your work is also inclusive of all family planning journeys, all of them.

你能告诉我们

Can you tell us

更多细节吗？

a little bit more about that?

当然可以。

Yeah, for sure.

我喜欢告诉别人，我完全开放。

So I like to just tell people that I am completely open.

我不会评判你经历过什么。

I'm not here to judge you with what you've been going through.

我知道很容易找到对心理健康指指点点的人，因为污名化是个大问题。

I know it's very easy to find people who are judging about mental health because the stigma is such a problem.

而且就像我们刚说的，污名化在生育治疗中也是个很大的问题。

And then like we just said, the stigma is such a problem with fertility treatments.

我只是想让人们知道，我坐在这里是为了帮忙。

I just also want people to know that I sit here to help.

我不是坐在这里评判别人的。

I don't sit here to be judgy.

其实这也是我选择帮助那些在生育旅程中的人的原因之一，因为我觉得人们承受了太多生孩子的压力，甚至到了要牺牲自己一切的地步，而不先照顾好自己。

And it's actually one of the reasons I got into working with people who are on their reproductive journey because I think there's just so much pressure on people to have children to the point that they're supposed to sacrifice everything of themselves about it and not take care of themselves first.

因为，你知道，空乘人员说得对。

Because, you know, the flight attendants have it right.

如果机舱压力下降，你得先戴上自己的氧气面罩，然后再去帮助别人。

If there's a drop in cabin pressure, you put on your own mask first and then you help other people.

所以，如果你要为家人付出，你得先照顾好自己。

So if you're going to show up for your family, you have to show up for yourself first.

我只是想帮助人们实现这个目标，过上最好的生活。

And I just want to help people reach that goal to live their best life.

说得太好了。

That was very well said.

太棒了。

That was great.

如果有人想和你合作，找到你的诊所，他们怎么找到你，你又怎么和患者合作呢？

If someone would like to work with you, find your practice, how do they find you and how do you work with patients?

我在加州接待成年人，可以通过很多方式找到我。

So I see adults in California and I can be found many ways.

我的网站是 freedompsychiatry.com。

So my website is freedompsychiatry.com.

另外，staciamills.com 也能找到我。

Also, it's staciamills.com will also come up.

在我的网站上，有一个联系表格，如果你想通过那里联系我。

And on my website, I have a contact form if you want to contact me through there.

我的电话号码也列在上面，如果你更喜欢打电话的话。

I have my phone number listed if you prefer the phone.

另外，你的所有患者如果想的话，也可以直接给我发邮件。

In addition, all of your patients can email me directly if they would like.

邮箱是 drmillsfreedompsychiatry.com。

It's drmillsfreedom psychiatry dot com.

我还提供营养课程和生活方式课程，这些课程是自定进度的，患者可以在任何地方购买。

And they do have nutrition classes that I'm offering and lifestyle classes that are self paced that they can buy from anywhere.

我想告诉大家，如果你在找精神科医生帮你管理药物，一定要确保他们提供机会让你在支付全额初诊费用之前，先去咨询一些问题。

I just want to, let people know that if you're looking for a psychiatrist to help you with your medication management, make sure that they offer a time where you can go and you can ask them questions before you pay the full fee to do an initial consultation.

我自己就提供这样的服务。

I do offer that myself.

你可以去我的网站，点击预约按钮，安排一次免费十五分钟的谈话，这样我们可以看看是否合得来。

You can go to my website and click on the book appointment button and schedule one, and you'll be able to talk with me for free for fifteen minutes so we can see if we click well.

我觉得提问非常重要，这样你才能对医生感到放心，因为如果你不自在，你就没法告诉他们你的情况，他们也就没法帮你。

I think it's very important to ask questions so that you feel comfortable with the person because if you're not comfortable then you can't tell them what's going on and then they can't help you.

我想聊聊你的电子书，《备孕期间心理健康的简明指南》。

I'd like to talk a little bit about your ebook, A Brief Guide to Mental Wellness While Family Planning.

大家在哪里能买到你的电子书呢？

Where can they get your ebook?

是的，我的电子书在亚马逊上有售，价格是9.99美元。最简单的查找方式就是搜索我的名字，Stacia Mills，就能直接找到。

Yeah, so my ebook is listed on Amazon for $9.99 The easiest way to find it is to search for my name, Stacia Mills, and it'll come right up.

但限时优惠，你的所有患者和听众，Dr.

But for a limited time, all of your patients and listeners, Dr.

Aimee，都可以在我的网站上免费获取。

Aimee, are able to get it for free on my website.

哦，真的吗？

Oh, no way.

你。

You.

是的，当然。

Yes, absolutely.

我很高兴大家能来我的网站看看，探索一下，慢慢适应心理健康这个概念。

I'm excited to have people come to my website, see what's there, just explore and get comfortable with the idea of mental wellness.

我希望他们直接访问我的网站。

I would want them to just go to my website.

就像我说的，网址是freedompsychiatry.com。

Like I said, it's freedompsychiatry.com.

然后在首页顶部会有一个链接，他们只要留下邮箱，就能下载PDF了。

Then at the top of the homepage, there will be a link where they just provide their email and it'll download the PDF for them.

太好了。

That's great.

全彩的，特别漂亮。

All in color, just beautiful.

哦，那挺好的。

Oh, good.

谢谢你这么用心，也谢谢你把它提供给我的病人。

Thank you for working so hard on that and for providing that to my patients.

太棒了。

That's fantastic.

Stacia，非常感谢你今天和我们聊了关于心理健康和幸福感对我病人以及所有人的重要性。

Stacia, thank you so much for talking to us today about the importance of mental health and well-being for my patients and for everybody.

你还有什么想

Is there anything else you would like

补充的吗？

to add today?

我真的很想鼓励大家，特别是如果你正在备孕的路上，一定要把心理健康放在首位。

I really want to encourage everyone, especially if you're on your fertility journey, to prioritize your mental wellness.

在我们的文化里，把心理健康放在首位是个新观念，但我真的希望大家能认真考虑并付诸行动。

This is a new idea in our culture is to prioritize mental wellness, but I really want people to think about it and to do so.

如果你想为自己和家人成为最好的自己，你就必须成为最完整的自己——心理、身体和生殖健康都要兼顾。

If you want to be your best self for you and your family, you've got to be your best whole self mental, physical, reproductive wellness.

记住，你值得为让自己感觉良好、过上最好的生活而付出努力、时间和金钱。

And remember that you are worth the effort, time, and the cost to have yourself feel well and live your best life.

就像我常说的，心理健康就是自由。

As I like to say, mental health is freedom.

确实如此，不是吗？

It really is though, isn't it?

心理健康就是自由。

Mental health is freedom.

自由就是知道前方的路，而有你在这里帮助大家，真是太棒了。

Freedom is knowing the path forward and having you there to help people is tremendous.

所以，谢谢你，Stacia。

So thank you, Stacia.

非常感谢你。

Thank you

非常感谢。

so much.

谢谢。

Thank you.

非常感谢你们的收听，也感谢你们让《卵子低语者秀》成为你们日常的一部分。

Thank you so much for listening and for making The Egg Whisperer Show part of your routine.

如需节目笔记和完整文字稿，请访问 draimee.org，点击博客标签。

For show notes and full transcripts, visit draimee.org and click on the blog tab.

在那里，你们还可以订阅《卵子低语者通讯》，并了解艾米医生的更多内容。

While you're there, you can sign up for The Egg Whisperer Newsletter and explore Doctor.

艾米医生在《卵子低语者学院》开设的线上生育课程。

Aimee's online fertility classes at The Egg Whisperer School.

你们还可以关注艾米医生。

You can also follow Dr.

以及《卵子低语者秀》在TikTok、Instagram、Facebook和X上的账号，并在YouTube上观看每集的完整视频。

Aimee and The Egg Whisperer Show on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and X, and find full length videos of each episode on YouTube.

请务必在你们最喜欢的播客应用上关注《卵子低语者秀》。

Be sure and follow The Egg Whisperer Show on your favorite podcasting app.

如果你们喜欢这一集，请留下评论。

And if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review.

再次感谢你的收听。

Thank you again for joining us.

下次再见，继续闪耀吧。

And until next time, keep sparkling.