Ep.649 | The Inner Life: Is Fear a Normal Emotion in My Life?

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And welcome friends to this, the Thursday morning edition of the Grace Hour.

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We're broadcasting live here from our studios, which are located at the home of the Greater Grace World Outreach right here in Baltimore, Maryland.

很高兴在本期播客中与您相伴。

And great to have you with us on another edition of our podcast.

感谢您抽出宝贵时间与我们同行，今天我们要提醒各位听众，热线聊天功能已开启，如果您希望参与讨论、分享您的想法，欢迎随时加入。本周我们将在恩典时刻持续探讨‘内在生命的心理学’这一主题。

We appreciate you taking time out of your schedules to be with us, and we wanna remind our listeners today that the chat line is available for those of you that would like to weigh in and share your thoughts with us as we continue our discussion all week long here on the Grace Hour on the subject of the psychology of the inner life.

今天，我们将聚焦于恐惧。

And today, we'll focus on fear.

恐惧是我们生活中一种正常的情绪吗？

Is fear a normal emotion in our lives?

我想我们都同意，恐惧在我们的世界中无处不在。

I think all of us would agree that fear is everywhere in our world.

问题是，它是否必须占据我们的心灵和生活？

The question is, does it have to fill our hearts and our lives?

我的名字是约翰·洛夫牧师。

Well, my name is pastor John Love.

今天和我一起在演播室的是沙勒牧师。

Joining me in the studio today is pastor Schaller.

我们将是今天节目的主持人。

We'll be your hosts for today's broadcast.

再次邀请您参与进来，如果您有任何评论或想就我们今天的话题提问，请不要犹豫。

And again, we invite you to join us if you have comments or if you have questions that you'd like to ask regarding our theme and subject today, please don't hesitate to do so.

沙勒牧师，今天我们这个播客的主题非常独特。

Pastor Schaller, we've been given a unique subject here on our podcast today.

圣经确实对恐惧有很多论述，没有人会否认恐惧似乎主导了我们的世界。

The Bible certainly does say a lot about fear, and no one would argue the fact that fear just seems to dominate our world.

无论您是收听电视新闻还是广播新闻，每天早上醒来或晚上入睡时都无法避开。

You can't wake up in the morning or go to sleep at night if you're listening to any kind of a news broadcast, whether it's a television news broadcast or on the radio.

世界各地的战争仍在继续。

Wars continue around the world.

汽油价格至今仍未下降。

The price of gasoline, it still has not yet come down.

人们都在疑惑，在经济似乎分崩离析的情况下，我该如何支付账单？

People are wondering how am I going to pay my bills in light of an economy that just seems to be unraveling at the seams.

这样的例子数不胜数。

The list just goes on and on.

再次强调，恐惧充斥着我们的世界。

Again, fear fills our world.

我们今天要探讨的问题是：恐惧是否必须充满我们的心？

The question for us today is, does it have to fill our hearts?

当然，我想我们都知道答案。

And of course, I think we know the answer.

不必如此。

It doesn't.

作为信徒，你们一定听过那个我们常听到的统计数据。

As believers, you think of that statistic that we've heard so often.

《圣经》中有多少次以各种形式提到‘不要惧怕’？

How many times in the Bible is there or does it say in one form or another, do not fear?

是多少呢？

What is it?

366次。

366 times.

这意味着每一天都有一次，包括那些出生在闰年的朋友，也包括你。

That's one for every day, including those of you that are born on leap year, which includes you.

所以，神在恐惧这件事上想要传递给我们、向我们讲述的内容非常多，因为恐惧确实无处不在。

So there there's a lot that God is trying to impart to us and speak to us about when it comes to fear because, again, it it is everywhere.

是的。

Yeah.

我有一个小比喻，也许你们以前听过，我在讲台上分享过。

You know, I have a little illustration that I use, you know, maybe you've heard it before, I've shared it in the pulpit.

恐惧在很多方面其实是健康的。

You know, fear is healthy in many ways.

我的意思是，恐惧能让我们避免从梯子上摔下来，避免走上高速公路，避免吃错食物而中毒。

I mean, it keeps us from falling off a ladder, from walking in a highway, from taking wrong food, poisoning ourselves.

它能让我们避开坏人。

It keeps us from bad people.

我的意思是，恐惧在人生中扮演着重要角色。

I mean, fear has a role, important role in life.

但确实有一种恐惧会折磨人，有一种恐惧是不健康的，而我们讨论的就是这种恐惧。

So but there is a fear that does torment people and there is a fear that's unhealthy and that's what we're talking about.

但在深入之前，也许我们该先谈谈恐惧的价值，以及它究竟是什么。

But before we go there, maybe we should talk about the value of fear and and what is it.

我喜欢把它比作一个人站在铁轨旁，手里拿着列车时刻表，知道列车将在8点07分到来，而我现在站在8点整，等待它驶来。

And I like to think of it as as like a man standing beside railroad tracks with the timetable of the coming train that it comes at 08:07, and I'm standing there at 08:00 anticipating it coming.

它将会庞大而有力。

It's gonna be big and powerful.

那么，对于这列火车，我怀有怎样的恐惧呢？

And and what kind of fear do I have with regards to the train?

我有一种积极的恐惧。

I have a good kind.

我尊重它。

I respect it.

我知道火车是什么。

I know what a train is.

我知道它什么时候来。

I know when is it coming.

我知道它将行驶的轨道。

And I know the tracks that it will be on.

好的。

Alright.

所以这一切都是可预测的，但确实有一种健康的恐惧，就像一位家长在8点05分对孩子说：火车来了，站在这里，我们要对火车保持敬畏。

So that's all predictable, but it does have a healthy kind of and a parent with a child at 08:05 will be saying to the child, now the train is coming and just stand over here and you know, just we're very respectful for that train.

这是恐惧吗？

Is that fear?

是的。

It is.

这是一种好的类型。

It's a good kind.

对。

Yeah.

这就像尊重。

It's like respect.

这是对运作系统的理解，它没有任何任性或不可预测的地方。

It's understanding something, the system that's working and there it's nothing is capricious about it, like unpredictable.

一切都遵循某种秩序。

Like it's all according to like a order.

但如果你采取一个截然相反的画面——比如抓住响尾蛇的尾巴，绕着头挥舞几圈，然后把它扔进卧室并关上门。

But if you had take a the contradictory contradictory picture, the picture that that's different from that one is taking a rattlesnake by the tail, whipping it around your head a few times and throwing it into your bedroom, shutting the door.

然后有人告诉你，要走进卧室。

And now you're told to go into the bedroom.

你知道，嗯，那是另一种恐惧。

You know, well, that's a different kind of fear.

那种恐惧会折磨你。

That's a fear that kind of torments you.

为什么？

Why?

这条蛇不可预测。

This snake is unpredictable.

我不知道它在哪里。

I don't know where it is.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我知道它很危险，但它可能在床里。

I know it's dangerous, but it could be, you know, in the bed.

它也可能在床底下。

It could be under the bed.

它可能在房间里的任何地方。

It could be, you know, anywhere in the room.

实际上，你不会进那个房间。

Actually, you wouldn't go in the room.

是的。

Yeah.

你不会的。

You wouldn't.

我的意思是，健康的恐惧会告诉你远离那里。

I mean, the healthy kind of fear would say stay away from there.

所以这是好事。

So that that's a good thing.

但当你被迫进入那个房间时，确实会有一种不同的感觉。

But then when you're forced into into the room, yeah, you have this other kind of feeling about it.

我的意思是，这正是《箴言》1章33节所说的那种恐惧。

And I mean, that's the kind of that's Proverbs one thirty three and it's called the fear.

你不会害怕邪恶。

You will not have a fear of evil.

比如，当你在午夜或凌晨两点走在危险街区时，你不知道会发生什么。

Like so when you walk down the street in a bad neighborhood at midnight or at two in the morning, you don't know what is going to happen.

但如果你去铁轨旁，拿着时刻表站着，了解了情况，那就是另一种情境。

But if you go to the train tracks and stand there with a timetable and you understand it, it's it's another kind of situation.

它不会折磨你。

It doesn't torment you.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

它确实会。

It does.

这没问题。

It's not a problem.

所以，有些人喜欢那种令人折磨的恐惧。

So, there are people that want the tormented kind of fear.

我的意思是，有恐怖电影。

I mean, there there are horror movies.

还有新闻报道，说有人在街头尾随行人。

There are, you know, the news that comes on that's there's somebody stalking the streets.

你知道，你们社区又发生了一起谋杀案，确实有些人被这种事困扰，甚至说实话，有时还会主动寻找这类消息。

You know, there was one more murder in the you know, in your neighborhood and there are people that are plagued actually by it and actually to be honest sometimes look for it.

他们就想要这种感觉，你知道的。

They want that, you know.

但我觉得，当我们以基督为中心、保持清醒时，我们希望情绪保持稳定。

But I think when we are Christ centered and sober minded, we are wanting our emotions to be stable.

我们应当敬畏上帝，而这种对上帝的敬畏会拯救我们脱离对邪恶的恐惧，让你晚上睡觉时不会害怕突然发生什么糟糕的事。

We want to fear God, but that fear of God will deliver us from the fear of evil so that you don't go to bed at night afraid of something that could suddenly happen that would be very bad.

是的。

Yeah.

这种健康的恐惧是有帮助的。

That that healthy kind of fear is is helpful.

我的意思是，当我想到恐惧时，我会说它威胁着我们的自我生命，无论是身体上的威胁、情感上的威胁，还是心理上的威胁，它们都会危及我们的自我生命。

I mean, when I think of fear and the way I describe it is is there are threats to the self life, whether they're physical threats or emotional threats, psychological threats, they they threaten the self life.

我们内心有一种声音，认为必须不惜一切代价保护这个自我生命。

And there's something about us that says, well, I have to preserve that self life at all costs.

它总会在某个时刻敲响我们心灵的大门，以这样或那样的形式。

All it's always gonna knock at the door of our hearts, isn't it, in one form or another.

问题是，我们会放它进来吗？

The question is, are we gonna let it in?

这就像有人通过你家门上的Ring摄像头被你看到，他们手里拿着武器，正在敲你的门，声称自己是警察或来送包裹什么的，但你明明知道那不是真的。

It would be like someone, a criminal or someone that you could see through your Ring camera on your on the door of your home, and they have a weapon, and they're knocking at your door, and they're telling you that they're the police or they're delivering a package or something, but you can see that that's not the case.

你不会让他们进来。

You don't let them in.

我认为，对于某些恐惧，我们必须保持警惕，说：你知道吗？

And I think there are certain fears that we have to be on guard for and say, you know what?

我承担不起让这种恐惧进入我的心。

I can't afford to let that fear into my heart.

好的。

Okay.

更不用说还欢迎它留宿过夜，甚至给它提供床铺了，因为这会严重伤害我们的灵魂。

Let alone, you know, welcome it in for the night and and and offer it a bed to stay in because that will that will really impact our souls in a bad way.

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以我们必须非常非常谨慎，小心哪些东西允许进入我们的灵魂、我们的思想和内心。

So we've gotta be very, very careful of what it is that we allow entrance into our souls, into our thinking, into our minds.

好的。

Okay.

好的。

Okay.

我的意思是，我想起查理·柯克，他在今年秋天初被暗杀了，据我所知，他之前多次被警告过，他所处的环境非常危险。

Well, I mean, I think of Charlie Kirk who was assassinated, you know, last, beginning of the fall and, probably warned many times, I believe he was, about, you know, dangerous situation he was putting himself into.

但他害怕吗？

But did he fear?

看起来好像没有，你知道的？

Didn't seem like you know?

看起来他并没有害怕。

It didn't seem like he did.

没有。

No.

没有。

No.

但你要明智一些。

But you wanna be wise.

是的。

Yeah.

但没错。

But yeah.

不。

No.

实际上，我们很清楚，上帝希望我们不要惧怕邪恶。

He it's actually clear to us that that God wants us not to fear evil.

因为恐惧邪恶是生活中一个控制性的因素，你可能会活在对邪恶的恐惧中，并基于这种恐惧做决定。

Like because that's one controlling element in your life that you could be living in the fear of evil and make decisions based on that fear.

那样的话，邪恶就控制了你。

And that in that way then it is controlling you.

但在他的情况下，邪恶袭击了他，带来了刺痛，这非常悲惨，我们为他和他的家人感到难过，也为他所启动的、令人惊叹的运动感到难过。

But in his case, the evil hit him and stung, and and it was very tragic and we're we're sad about it and for his family and the movement that he started, which is incredible.

但如果说你不惧怕邪恶，它就不会以某种方式降临到你身上——我们知道它可能会，而且基督来了，我们看到他说：‘现在就是黑暗势力的时刻。’

But to say that if you don't fear evil that it won't somehow strike you, Well, we know it can and that Christ came and we saw that he said now is the power of the hour of darkness.

他是知道这一点的。

And he knew that.

是的。

Yeah.

但他并不害怕。

But he wasn't afraid of it.

是的。

Yeah.

你知道吗？

You know?

他明白这一点，但那不会控制他的生活；他知道天父能派遣天军来拯救他，他也明白，但他更明白自己为何

He knew that but that wasn't gonna be controlling his life and he knew that the father could deliver him sending legions of angels and he knew but he also knew why he

来战胜它。

came to defeat it.

他是个勇敢的人，就像许多充满圣灵、与基督保持健康关系的人一样。

He was a courageous man like so many that are spirit filled and that have a healthy relationship with Christ.

我在想恐惧的反面，那就是勇气。

I'm thinking of the antithesis of fear, which is courage.

还有耶稣，你知道，通过他的饶恕，想想这一点。

And Jesus, you know, through his forgiveness think about that.

这真的很有趣，因为有个人来找他，却无法行走。

That's really interesting because a man came to him and could not walk.

当他们把这个男人带到耶稣面前时，耶稣对他们或对那人说：'要勇敢。'

And when they brought this man to Jesus, he said to them or he said to the man, take courage.

你的罪赦免了。

Your sins are forgiven.

多么奇怪的一句话。

What a strange statement.

要勇敢。

Take courage.

你的罪得赦免，这跟我生活中的勇气有什么关系呢？

Your what is the forgiveness of my sins have to do with having courage in my life?

是的。

Uh-huh.

但这两者之间确实是有联系的，不是吗？

But there is a relationship, isn't there?

是的

Yeah.

确实有。

There is.

我的意思是，某种程度上，就好像有人会说：‘耶稣，我们带他来是因为他需要力量。’

I mean, certain I mean, it's almost like somebody could say, well, Jesus, we brought him to you because he needs muscles.

他不需要怜悯。

He doesn't need mercy.

你知道，他需要的是身体上的帮助。

You know, he he needs help physically.

我不太确定我们在这里是为了为这个人寻求赦免。

I'm I'm not so sure that we're here to find forgiveness for this man.

嗯哼。

Uh-huh.

但上帝知道。

But God knows.

换句话说，他直接切入了问题的核心。

In other words, he gets right to the heart of the issue.

他谈到人心，说人心需要被赦免。

And he says about the human heart, it needs to be forgiven.

人心需要与活神建立关系。

It needs a relationship with the living God.

这将在我们心中培养勇气。

That's gonna foster courage in our hearts.

而勇气正是我们面对世界上种种恐惧所需要的。

And courage is what it takes to stand up to some some of the fears that we find in our world.

完全正确。

Absolutely.

太惊人了。

It's amazing.

上帝对约书亚说的那番话，就是叫他要勇敢。

The very guy God said it to Joshua in Joshua one that he had to be courageous.

摩西所做的一切，真是无比勇敢。

And Moses was incredibly courageous what he did.

我的意思是，他不是只坚持了几周，而是活到了120岁。

And I mean, he didn't just do it for a couple weeks, but he lived for, you know, to be a 120.

他整整四十年都面对着无数巨大的困难，你知道的。

He's did it for forty years of like incredible, like, problems, big problems, you know.

我的意思是，成千上万的难题，无数个想回埃及、想放弃的理由。

I mean, like thousands and thousands of problems and reasons to go back to Egypt and reasons to quit.

放弃这些人吧。

Like, give up on these people.

我受够这些人了。

I'm done with these people.

他真的说过这样的话。

He actually said it.

是的。

Yeah.

天啊，我真的受够这些人了。

Like, god, I'm done with these people.

我的意思是，我实在做不下去了。

I mean, I can't do this.

你懂的？

You know?

所以，勇气。

So courage.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

我们被呼召要勇敢。

We are called to be courageous.

经上说，你们要像男子汉一样刚强。

It says, quit you like men.

哥林多前书第16章。

First Corinthians 16.

这是一个非常好的观点。

So it's a very good point.

使徒保罗不是写信给提摩太，提醒我们神赐给我们的不是胆怯的灵，而是能力、爱和谨守的心吗？

And doesn't the apostle Paul wrote to Timothy, and he said, reminds us that God hasn't given us a spirit of fear, but power, love, and a sound mind.

你昨晚在巴尔的摩的周中聚会中提到了爱这个方面。

And you touched upon the aspect of love last night in the midweek service here in Baltimore.

这让我想到了使徒约翰所写的。

And it made me think of what the apostle John wrote.

他说，你知道，神完全的爱能驱除一切恐惧。

He says, you know, God's perfect love can cast out fear.

所以

So

当我们生活中感受到恐惧时，你可能会想，我必须对抗它。

when we sense fear in our lives, you know, we might have this idea, well, I have to oppose it.

我必须战胜它。

I have to overcome it.

但也许最好的方法是默想并反思上帝完美的爱。

But maybe maybe the best way to do that would be to meditate and to reflect upon God's perfect love.

哦。

Oh.

它会消除那种恐惧。

And it will remove that fear.

换句话说，恐惧和上帝完美的爱似乎不能共存于一个人的灵魂中。

In other words, it doesn't seem like fear and God's perfect love can inhabit a person's soul.

总得有人把门打开。

Somebody's gotta find the door.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

我的意思是，或者说是正确的那种恐惧，比如去火车站，知道火车要来了。

I mean, or the right kind of fear, like going to the train station and knowing the train is coming.

我的意思是，那种恐惧是好的。

I mean, that's a good kind of fear.

你说得对。

You're right.

是那种令人困扰的恐惧，会引发焦虑、怯懦、退缩和自我保护，而不是对上帝的敬畏，以及拥抱真理并勇敢践行它的勇气。

It's the plaguing fear that produces anxiety, timidity, withdrawal and protect myself versus the fear of God and then the embracing of truth and the courage to walk in it.

是的，我确实有恐惧，但它不会折磨我。

And yeah, I have a fear but it doesn't torment me.

我知道什么是谎言，我不想陷入谎言。

I know what a lie is and I don't wanna fall into a lie.

我知道什么是怯懦，我不想变得怯懦。

I know what timidity is, and I don't wanna be timid.

我想变得勇敢。

I wanna be courageous.

你知道，这种健康的心态对我们信徒来说至关重要，你知道。

I you know, it is all that healthy mindset that is critically important for us as believers, you know.

我的意思是，我们就像一群胆小的人，大家都很害怕。

I mean, we're like very sheepish people, like people are very afraid.

天哪，他们真的很害怕，你知道，你会想，随着社交媒体的发展，人们害怕被拒绝、被边缘化、被不公平对待，这些心理现象在我们的社会中普遍存在，你会为那些被他人控制、被当下文化潮流牵着走的人感到惋惜，你知道。

Oh my gosh, they're very you know, you wonder like with this, you know, this social media stuff and people being afraid of being rejected and marginalized and treated unfairly and all these kind of things that are happening psychologically in our society and you feel sorry for people who are controlled by other people or controlled by the the cultural trend of the day, you know.

我说，算了吧。

It's like, come on.

我们必须有更深层的东西，是的。

We gotta have something deeper Yeah.

在我们的生活中。

In our lives.

如今的世界几乎默认了这样一个事实：我们每天都要活在持续的恐惧中。

It's almost like the world now, it just simply accepts the fact that every day we have to live in perpetual fear.

这几乎成了理所当然的事。

It's almost as if it's a given.

事情就是会这样发展。

This is the way it's going to be.

所以，你知道的，做出你的调整吧。

So, you know, make your adjustments.

你必须面对恐惧敲响你心灵之门。

You have to fear knocks at the door of your heart.

打开门，说：进来吧。

Just open the door, say, come on in.

我已经为你准备好了床。

I got a bed set up for you.

留下来过夜吧。

Stay the night.

想待多久就待多久。

Stay as long as you want.

但这样并不是真正面对恐惧的正确方式，因为神所赐的勇气和信心要伟大得多。

But that's not the accurate way to really approach fear because God's option of courage and faith is is so much greater.

不。

No.

你曾在其中一个节目里，或者当面提过，我不太记得了。

You you mentioned in one of these programs or in in person, I don't remember.

但当我们在莱诺克斯进行审判时，你提到你父亲的事，你当时正和你父亲说话，你说，嗯，我正在为事工站出来之类的话，你父亲是怎么说的？

But something about your dad when we had a trial in Lenox, and you were you were talking with your dad and you said, you know, well, I'm standing with the ministry or something along those lines and your dad said what?

他说，哦，他说，他基本上是说，他为我感到骄傲。

He said, oh, he said, I'm I'm I'm essentially, he said, I'm proud of you.

是的。

Yeah.

你知道，我同意你的看法。

You know, I I I agree with you.

是的。

Yeah.

因为忠诚对他来说非常重要。

Because loyalty meant a lot to him.

是的。

Yes.

他非常看重这一点。

And he valued it.

所以当我表现出这种忠诚时，他真的很感激。

And so when I expressed that kind of loyalty, he really appreciated it.

真的吗？

Really?

是的。

Yeah.

他确实这样做了。

He did.

而且他并没有对正在发生的一切有清晰而全面的理解。

And he really didn't have a a clear and thorough understanding of everything that was going on.

是的。

Yeah.

比如在精神层面上。

Like, of a a spiritual context.

不。

No.

不。

No.

但就道德层面而言，他是如何处理的呢？

But but morally, he what how did he process it?

我只是觉得，我说过，在我们事工和教会生活中，这些都是艰难的时期。

I just think I said, I you know, these are difficult times in our ministry during our church life.

我说了，但我还是会坚持。

I said, but I am sticking.

这简直就像我坚持陪着那个送我们来的人。

It's almost like I'm sticking with the guy who drove us here.

他只是很感激这一点。

And he's he just appreciated that.

我的意思是，也许这是他的美国海军背景造成的。

I mean, maybe that was his marine US marine background.

是的。

Yeah.

你知道，你不会丢下任何人。

You know, you don't leave anybody behind.

对。

Yeah.

你的态度是，你知道的，兄弟之间要肩并肩，一起挺过去。

Your attitude is, you know, your brothers, you stick together shoulder to shoulder, you get through it.

他也很欣赏这一点。

And he appreciated that.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Right.

我也很感激。

And I appreciated it too.

但没错，他是在鼓励你。

But but, yeah, he's encouraging you.

而且反过来想，我有点害怕。

And also play it in reverse, and that is I'm afraid.

我胆小，我退缩，我想要逃离，我想要退出。

I'm timid, I'm withdrawing, I'm jumping out, I'm canceling out.

好吧，确实有这种想法，也许我不希望自己卷入什么坏事。

And okay, so there is that position and maybe there is a I don't want to be part of something bad.

所以，如果到了该退出某件事的时候，我会突然意识到某件事在道德上是邪恶的、违法的或犯罪的，或者类似的情况。

So if it's time to get out of something, I suddenly realize something is morally bad or illegal or criminal or something.

但我认识这些人。

But I know the people.

我了解他们的品格。

I know their integrity.

我知道他们内心的动机。

I know what their heart motivation is.

如果主没有考验过我们的心，我们也不会做出传扬福音的决定，就不会做这份工作。

We wouldn't be doing this work if the Lord hadn't tested our hearts and we made a decision to preach the gospel.

我们到底做错了什么？

And what are we doing bad?

告诉人们上帝爱他们？

Telling people that God loves them?

走遍天下，告诉他们上帝爱他们。

Going into all the world to tell them that God loves them.

所以我加入了。

So I'm in.

你知道的。

You know?

我不和坏人一起工作。

I don't work with bad people.

我和好人一起工作，我不会退出。

I work with good people, and I'm not bailing out.

是的。

Yeah.

我不会跳槽。

I'm not jumping out.

为什么？

Why?

为了自救？

To save yourself?

或者，你知道的，你害怕什么？

Or, you know, what do you fear?

你是害怕被拒绝，还是害怕未来的麻烦？

You fear rejection or you fear problems in the future?

嗯，我们真的得学会这个。

Well, like, we have to we have to, like, learn this.

对吧？

Right?

我们必须成熟起来。

We have to mature.

是的。

Yeah.

所有的年长者都能做到。

Could All the aged.

对。

Yeah.

你可以，你看，就这样。

You could there you go.

你可能会失去你的声誉。

You could lose your reputation.

我的意思是，你知道，一个人的声誉周围有很多恐惧。

I mean, you know, there's a lot of fear that surrounds a person's reputation.

你知道吗？

You know?

如果人们对我印象不好怎么办？

What if people are gonna think poorly about me?

如果他们觉得我是这样或那样的人怎么办？

What if they think I'm this or I'm that?

而你，again，因为自我保护的本能开始起作用。

And you again, because that's the self preservation instinct kicks in.

我得保护好自己。

I've got to save myself.

所以如果这意味着要退出、跳船，那我当然同意。

So if it means bailing out, jumping ship, I'm in Yeah.

或者我离开，你怎么看都行。

Or I'm out, however you want to look at it.

是的。

Yeah.

所以你需要清楚自己是谁，属于什么群体。

And so you need to know who you are and who you are, what you are part of.

在马太福音第五章中说：当人们诽谤你时，你是有福的。

And in Matthew five, it says, blessed are you when men speak evil of you.

这里有负面的舆论、糟糕的声誉或恶言恶语，但经文接着说：你是有福的，因为如果人们称赞你，那正是他们对待假先知的方式。

And there is the bad press or the bad reputation or the bad words and then there is a but he said, you are a blessed person because if they're speaking well of you, they did that with the false prophets.

假先知被人称赞，但神的仆人呢？回顾历史，你就知道神的仆人。

But the false prophets were they spoken well of, but then the man of God and you look at it in history, you know, the man of God.

我是说，乔治·怀特菲尔德，我们看过那部电影《大觉醒》。

I mean, George Whitefield, we saw that movie, The Great Awakening.

查尔斯·司布真在伦敦一直遭受负面报道。

Charles Spurgeon had bad press all the time in London.

我们看到这种情况确实可能发生。

We see that this can happen.

但基督徒被呼召不是去害怕。

But the Christian is not called to fear.

他被呼召要对自己是谁、信什么、做什么有坚定的信心。

He is called to have solid confidence in who he is, what he's believing, and what he's doing.

这就是为什么品格会在真理中塑造你，使你在神面前以真理站立，说神看重你。

And that's that's where, you know, that character building you up in truth so that you stand before God with truth saying God honors you.

是的。

Yeah.

彼得前书4章12节。

First Peter four twelve.

阿们。

Amen.

是的。

Yeah.

我想起我们在马可福音第五章读到的睚鲁的女儿。

I I think of what we read in Mark chapter five, Jarius' daughter.

他是会堂的领袖。

He's the the leader of the synagogue.

他是一个受人尊敬的人。

He's a well respected man.

他就像镇上的市长。

He's like the mayor of the town.

他的女儿病得快要死了，于是他去找耶稣，说：你能来吗？

And his daughter is sick to the point of death, so he seeks out Jesus and says, can you come?

你能医治她吗？

Can you is it can you heal her?

耶稣就去了。

And and Jesus comes.

然后，当然出现了中断，因为一个患血漏的妇人拦住了他，她说：‘只要摸一下他的衣裳边，我就必痊愈。’

And then, of course, there's an interruption because a woman with an issue of blood stops him, and she says, if I could just touch the hem of his garment, I'd be healed.

她真的这样做了。

And she does.

这在一定程度上延缓了信心的队伍前往睚鲁家的步伐。

And that kinda slows the parade of faith down to the house of Jarius.

然后他医治了那妇人。

And then he heals the woman.

她向耶稣讲述了整个故事，说她为了治病花光了所有积蓄。

She tells Jesus her whole story, spent all that she had to be healed.

没有人能治好她，但她就是知道他可以，而他也真的做到了。

No one could do it, but she just knew he could, and he did.

接着，消息传到了睚鲁那里。

And then the news comes to Jarius.

不要麻烦夫子了。

Don't trouble the master any further.

你的女儿已经死了。

Your daughter is dead.

我喜欢耶稣说的话。

And I love what Jesus say.

他转身对他说，不要害怕。

He turned to him, and he said to him, don't fear.

继续相信。

Keep believing.

真的吗？

Really?

我喜欢这一点。

I love that.

我喜欢这一点，因为我觉得这或许就是我们生活的本质。

I love that because that really I think that could be the essence of our lives.

是的。

Yeah.