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下午好，各位朋友，欢迎收听本周《灰酸》节目的收官期，今天是周五。
Good afternoon, friends, and welcome to our closing edition of the Grey Sour this week, Friday.
如果你是第一次听我们的节目，我们是一个基督教节目，深入探讨日常生活中的挑战，帮助大家凭信心在实际生活中与神同行。
And for those of you new to the program, we are a Christian program that takes a dive into our daily challenges and helps us to learn by faith to walk with God in a practical way.
我是牧师雷纳尔多·布朗，今天和我一起在演播室的是斯奇贝利牧师。
I'm pastor Renaldo Brown, and I'm in studio with pastor Scibelli.
这一周以来，我们一直在享受在基督里属于我们的各样福分。
And today on all week, we've been delighting in the treasures that are ours in Christ.
今天，我们要特别分享圣徒之间的团契之乐。
And today we're delighting in the fellowship of the saints.
欢迎你们在线上参与，提出问题或分享感想。
We'd love for you to join us online with your questions and your comments.
随时可以联系我们。
You can reach out to us.
我们会尽量把大家的反馈融入节目，也希望你们已经订阅了我们在谷歌播客或苹果播客上的频道。
We can try to include those in the program and hopefully you've chosen to subscribe to one of our different opportunities to subscribe on Google podcast or Apple podcast.
这样你就不会错过节目了。
That way you don't miss the program.
接下来，让我们一起分享这个美好的想法，深入探讨在圣徒团契中得享喜乐。
So we look forward to enjoying a great thought today together as we explore delighting in the fellowship of the saints.
欢迎给我们留言。
Please write in.
我们非常期待听到你的声音。
We'd love to hear from you.
我先请贝林牧师开个头。
Let me get started with pastor Belling.
给我们分享一个深刻的见解。
Give us a good thought.
腓立比书第四章第四节说了一件非常重要的事。
Philippians chapter four verse four says something very important.
你们要靠主常常喜乐。
Rejoice in the Lord always.
对。
Mhmm.
如果你没听清，他可不是这么说的。
And if you didn't get it, he he didn't say that.
再听一遍，要喜乐。
Again, say rejoice.
因为腓立比教会当时正遭受巨大的冲击。
Because the Philippian church was under tremendous assault.
当时有罗马政府对腓立比城及其庞大帝国的控制，这个帝国已经持续了将近八百七十五年。
You have the Roman government and its control over the Philippian, the city of Philippi, and their vast empire that's actually continued on for, like, eight seventy five years.
明白吗？
Okay?
教会里还有两个人在制造麻烦，引发纷争和抱怨。
You have two people causing a problem in the church, causing division to murmuring.
对。
Mhmm.
还有希腊的智慧在试图渗透进来，慢慢影响他们。
You have the Greek wisdom trying to infiltrate, work its way in.
犹太人的宗教和他们的律法主义也在渗透，再加上属肉体的基督教。
You have the religion of the Jews and their legalism to penetrate, and you have carnal Christianity.
所以保罗在狱中给他们写信，毫无疑问，就是在监狱里写的。
And so Paul is writing a letter to them from prison, no doubt, from prison.
他用了‘喜乐’或者类似‘欢喜’这样的词，一共出现了十九次。
And he uses the word joy or something similar to that, like gladness 19 times.
他希望他们重点持守的，是主里的喜乐。
And what he wants them to have as an emphasis is the joy of the Lord.
实际上，‘喜乐’和‘欢欣’这两个词都源自‘恩典’这个词。
Actually, word joy and rejoice comes from the word grace.
是的。
Mhmm.
它的词源就是‘charis’。
Direct it's a derivative of charis.
它是 chara，拼写是 c-h-a-r-a，而恩典是 c-h-a-r-i-s。
It's chara, c h a r a, whereas grace is c h a r I s.
所以，离开了恩典，真正的喜乐根本不存在。
So, really, outside of grace, there really is no joy.
可能只有那种情绪上的、来自神以外的短暂快乐。
It's only maybe an emotional human joy, some kind of joy that comes from the source outside of God.
但保罗强调，要在圣徒的团契、在基督的身体里，拥有喜乐、欢欣和满足。
But Paul is saying it's important to have joy, delight and joy in the fellowship of the saints in the body.
也许我曾经去过一些教会，虽然机会不好，但那里根本感受不到一丝喜乐。
Now, maybe I've had the opportunity, wasn't a good opportunity, but to be involved maybe or go to churches where you just didn't sense any joy in the place at all.
是的。
Mhmm.
那里看起来就像一个靠肉体操控的宗教组织，或者某种所谓的宗派运动，但基督的身体里，真有喜乐吗？
It just seems like it was a religious organization operating in the control of the flesh or some kind of so called movement, denominational movement, but was there any real joy in the church, the body of Christ?
我觉得有时候是因为人们不理解‘身体’这个词的含义。
And I think sometimes because people don't understand the word body.
对。
Mhmm.
肢体生活。
Body life.
你懂的。
You know?
教会就是基督的身体。
The church is the body of Christ.
有些人把教会只是看作一群被召出来的人。
Some people see church as just called out ones.
是的。
Mhmm.
明白？
K?
被召出来的人，却没看作是神的身子、耶稣基督的身体。
Called out ones, but not as the soma of God, the body of Jesus Christ.
当你积极参与、与弟兄姊妹相交，并在基督的身体里找到自己的位置时，你就会在教会中感受到极大的喜乐和团契，也能分享圣徒们所给予的恩典。
So when you are you are involved and you are fellowshipping and you are taking your place in the body of Christ, you have tremendous joy and fellowship in the church and the portions that the saints are giving.
我认为人不可能孤立地活着。
I think a person cannot be an island unto themselves.
就连耶稣基督，神的儿子，也需要一个身体，才能把信息和生命传递出来。
I mean, even Jesus Christ, God, the son, he wanted a body, needed a body to really bring the message through and the life through.
所以这一点至关重要。
So this is so key.
在《腓立比书》里，这一点出现了十五次之多。
So in the book of Philippians, we see it 15 times.
他不断提到喜乐、要喜乐。
He keeps talking about joy and rejoice.
是的。
Mhmm.
喜乐，要喜乐。
Joy and rejoice.
换句话说，这对他们在教会中得着喜乐至关重要。
In other words, this is key for them to have joy in the church.
对。
Mhmm.
他们周围发生的一切，并不能带给他们喜乐。
What's going on all around them does not bring them joy.
他们周围充斥着罗马政府的逼迫、犹太律法主义的压制、希腊文化的冲击，还有异教偶像崇拜的搅扰。
What's going on all around them are just incredible attacks from the government of Rome, from the Jewish legalism, from the culture of the Greeks, from pagan idolatry.
对。
Mhmm.
这些问题接连不断，还有抱怨和分裂的情况不断发生。
On and on it goes, you know, and situations where there was murmuring and division taking place.
所以保罗写信给腓立比教会，这个词他几乎用了十九次。
So Paul writes a letter to Philippi, and he just uses this word practically 19 times.
我认为他这样强调，是希望他们能建立喜乐的真理，心里常存喜乐的意念。
And I think that emphasis is for them so they would have the doctrine of joy and think and have a mindset pertaining to joy.
除此之外，到底还有什么理由去教会，或者为什么信基督教，却完全没有喜乐呢？
Outside of that, really, what is there coming to church or how about Christianity that is has no joy in it.
人们只是机械地走形式，只想着熬到被提，或者等到末日来临之类的。
It's just people going through the motions, and I'm just gonna survive until the rapture or until the end comes and whatnot.
但我真的没有喜乐的根基，没有喜乐的关系，也没有在神的喜乐中找到异象和目的。
But I really do not have a foundation of joy, relationships of joy, a vision, and a purpose in the joy of God.
这太关键了。
And this is so key.
这就是为什么我们能看到这种强调的重要性，真的非常重要。
This is why we we see the importance of this emphasis, you know, how key this is.
一旦缺失了喜乐，人与人之间就容易摩擦出火药味。
And when it's not there, then it becomes maybe sometimes flesh rubbing flesh the wrong way.
全是肉体的本性在作祟，主导了一切。
It's all sin nature's kind of taking the high step and being the ones that are in charge there.
根本一点喜乐都没有。
And there's no joy at all.
这就是为什么很多人没有像应该的那样常来教会的原因。
And that's why people maybe that's why people don't come to church as as much as they should.
确实如此。
Sure.
他们来教会的时候，这里真有喜乐吗？
Because when they come to church, is there joy in the church?
是不是还有经济上的压力？
Are there demands on their finances?
是不是还得逼着他们发挥恩赐，做这做那？
Are there demands on them functioning in their gift or something?
是不是有各种各样的要求，都是人定的，还拿经文当借口，其实根本没喜乐。
Are there are there all kinds of demands that are based upon man and maybe man using verses to solidify what he thinks, but there's really no joy.
我去了，但一点喜乐都没有。
I come there and there's no joy.
不只是教会没有喜乐，连婚姻、基督徒的生命里都没喜乐，那该怎么办？
How about not just the church with no joy, a marriage with no joy, a Christian with no joy?
他们是怎么运作的？
How do they function?
他们是怎么生活的？
How do they operate?
没有喜乐，他们怎么能坚持下去呢？
How do they continue really without joy?
所以保罗特别强调腓立比教会要活出主的喜乐。
So Paul makes a tremendous emphasis to the church of Philippi about the joy of the Lord.
这一点非常关键，也极其重要。
And this is so key and so important.
顺便问一下，‘福音’这个词到底是什么意思？
And this is what by the way, what does the word gospel mean?
‘福音’的意思就是好消息。
The word gospel means good news.
没错。
Right.
让人听了心里欢喜的好消息
Glad tidings to cheer the ear of the hearer.
这就是福音。
That's the gospel.
本该是好消息才对。
It's supposed to be good news.
对。
Mhmm.
不应该是以人为中心的，这才是神希望你做的。
It's not supposed to be man centered, and this is what God wants you to do.
你要是这么做，就会让神喜悦。
And if you do it, you know, you'll be pleasing to God.
神在他的子民中得着喜乐。
But God has joy in his people.
喜乐确实如此。
Joy does.
神以我们为乐。
God has joy in us.
你知道吗？
You know?
即使我们自己没有喜乐，神却依然为我们喜乐。
Even when we don't have joy, God has joy.
这一点非常关键。
And this is so key.
我们来看路加福音第15章，那里讲了三个场景，都强调了喜乐，以及神的喜乐。
We look at Luke 15, and you see the emphasis on the three situations that took place there about joy and God having joy.
对。
Mhmm.
我儿子曾经迷失了，现在找回来了。
This my son was lost, and now he's found.
对。
Mhmm.
又有喜乐了。
There's there's joy again.
那种关系里头，是有喜乐的。
There's joy there in that relationship.
所以今天我们要重点谈这个。
So that's a key topic for today.
我们得好好聊聊，特别强调一下，因为如果没有喜乐，那可就麻烦了。
We need to talk about it and really emphasize it and see the importance of it because without it Mhmm.
我们到底在做什么？
What are we doing?
只是在机械地维持某种宗教形式，走个过场，却完全没有真正的喜乐。
We're just functioning with some religiosity or some religious organization, whatnot, and going through the motions, but there's no real joy.
正因缺少真正的喜乐，人才会渐渐远离。
And because there's no real joy, then maybe that's why people back away.
对。
Mhmm.
也许是个钱包。
Maybe a purse.
我会想加入一个毫无喜乐的教会吗？
Would I would I wanna be a part of a church that had no joy?
是的。
Yeah.
从来没人提过喜乐这回事。
There was never any mention about joy.
根本就没有喜乐。
There was no joy.
连喜乐的可能性都没有。
There was no possibility of joy.
他们根本就没往那方面想过。
They just didn't really think along those lines.
这对我来说太关键了。
And that to me is such a key.
那我们来深入聊聊这个话题吧。
So let's let's explore this topic.
好的。
Sure.
我觉得，当我们谈论与圣徒的团契时，如果感受不到喜乐，就根本谈不上享受。
I think when we talk about the fellowship with the saints, if I don't sense joy, there's no delight in it.
我们这一周一直在谈的‘享受’这个词，其实是一种渴望。
The word delight we've been talking about all week is a longing.
为什么我不愿意与圣徒团契呢？
How come I don't want to fellowship with the saints?
为什么我心中没有这种渴望？
How come I don't have the longing?
也许，正是缺少喜乐，才让我失去了那份享受。
Maybe it's the lack of joy that's robbing me of my delight.
你真正享受的事物，正是让你感到喜乐的事。
The things you delight in are the things you take joy in.
在教会里，我常常对教会没什么渴望，可能就像你说的，我感受到的都是要求。
And oftentimes in the church, I don't have the longing for the church maybe because like you said, I sense demands.
我感受到的是律法主义。
I sense legalism.
我感受到的是一种逼迫人的气氛。
I sense a driving spirit.
还有竞争。
Competition.
那种环境里根本找不到喜乐。
And there's no joy in that.
对吧？
Right?
那种环境里根本找不到喜乐。
There's no joy in that.
神说，好吧。
Like and God says, okay.
我享受与圣徒的团契。
I delight in the fellowship of the saints.
为什么呢？
Why?
为什么尼希米记8章10节说，主的喜乐是我的力量？
Why is the joy of the Lord my strength in Nehemiah eight ten?
因为这喜乐赋予了我团契的意义。
Because it it gives purpose to my fellowship.
也指明了我团契的方向。
It gives direction to my fellowship.
那节经文怎么说的？
How about that verse?
因那摆在前面的喜乐，他就忍受了十字架。
For the joy that was set before him Mhmm.
他忍受了十字架。
He endured the cross.
对。
Mhmm.
换句话说，对耶稣来说，十字架本身就是一种喜乐。
In other words, the cross for Jesus was a joy.
那正是摆在祂前面的喜乐。
That was the joy set before him.
对。
Mhmm.
我们的救恩，还有那些摆在祂前面的喜乐。
Our salvation, whatnot, the joy that was set before him.
所以我们也能经历生活中的考验、试炼和困难。
So we can go through tests and trials and problems in life.
但当我们拥有神的喜乐时，这喜乐是如此强大，足以支撑我们度过这些考验和试炼。
But when we have the joy of God, the joy of God is so overwhelming that is what maybe carries us through these tests and trials.
但如果我要面对考验和试炼，却没有主的喜乐，没有属灵的喜乐，那我就只剩下考验本身，和它最终会怎样收场。
But if I am going to face tests and trials and there's no joy of the Lord, there's no spiritual joy in it, then I'm just left with a test and the trial and how it's going to come out.
这对一个人来说会变得非常艰难。
And that becomes very difficult for a person.
但就像你所说的，如果团契中没有喜乐，那我们团契的基础又是什么呢？
But like you said, it's like if there's no joy in the fellowship, then what is the basis for our fellowship?
这就是问题所在。
There's the question.
明白吗？
Okay?
因为《诗篇》16章3节说，诗人提到：我以圣徒的团契为乐。
Because the the the it's like this it says in Psalm 16 verse three, the psalmist says that I delight in the fellowship of the saints.
是的。
Mhmm.
是什么在支撑着这种团契呢？
What is fueling that fellowship?
人们来教会，动机和原因各不相同。
And for and people come to church with many different motives and many different reasons.
我来教会，是因为我喜欢与圣徒相交，但原因是我能从他们身上得到什么。
Well, I'm coming to church because I delight in the fellowship of the saints because of what the saints can do for me.
对。
Yeah.
或者我喜欢的是我能从中得到什么。
Or I delight in what I what what what I can get out of it.
又或者我喜欢，是因为我想被引导、被掌控，想有人告诉我该怎么做。
Or I delight in maybe I wanna be directed or controlled or I wanna be told what to do.
所以这种相交并不纯粹、不真实，但真正的属灵相交，总是带着喜乐的。
So there's no pure authentic fellowship, but authentic spiritual fellowship always has joy.
为什么呢？
Why?
因为加拉太书五章二十二节说，圣灵的果子就是喜乐。
Because in Galatians five twenty two, the fruit of the spirit is joy.
在爱之后，接下来是什么？
After love, it's what?
是喜乐。
It's joy.
所以，如果我们彼此之间的团契真是出于爱，就一定会伴随着喜乐。
So if there's really love in our fellowship that I'm delighting in, there will always be joy.
不是那种表面的开心，而是一种深深的属灵满足，因为我和基督的身体在一起。
And not happy, happy, happy, but there's this overwhelming sense of spiritual satisfaction because of the body of Christ that I'm with.
对。
Mhmm.
和我在一起的这些人，不一定总是拥抱亲热，但有一种宁静的感觉。
That those who are with me, not necessarily this fellowship is not always like huggy huggy, but it's kinda like this peace.
这是一种满足，一种作为基督身体一员的安息。
It's the contentment, the satisfaction as part of the body of Christ.
我们一同聚集，与圣徒联结，我也是其中一员。
I'm part we gather in one accord in the gathering of the saints and the connection of the saints.
这种喜乐让我内心充满喜悦。
There's a joy that causes me delight.
对吧？
Right?
如果一个人从神那里得着喜乐，却在服事中找不到喜乐，那该怎么办呢？
How about if you have a situation where a person has joy from God, but they don't find joy in the ministry?
或者，一个人在服事中有喜乐，但在个人生活中却感受不到与神的喜乐，又该怎么看？
Or how about they have joy in the ministry, but they don't have any joy in God in their personal relationships?
我特别喜欢这一点。
I I love this.
这真是个值得我们深思的见解。
This is a very interesting thought there for us to ponder.
是的。
Mhmm.
诗篇十六篇第八节。
Psalm 16 verse eight.
我常将耶和华摆在我面前。
I have set the Lord always before me.
对。
Mhmm.
因为他在我右边，我必不动摇。
Because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved.
对。
Mhmm.
所以，这是诗篇16章8到9节。
Therefore, this is Psalm 16 verse eight and nine.
所以，我的心欢喜，对。
Therefore, heart is glad Mhmm.
我的灵也快乐。
And my glory rejoices.
我的身体必安然居住在盼望中。
My flesh shall also rest in hope.
再看第11节。
And then look at the eleventh verse.
这是史蒂文牧师当年在马萨诸塞州斯普林菲尔德讲过的一段经文，我记得清楚，当时他讲的是这个。
This is one of pastor Steven's verses that he preached, I remember, in Springfield, Massachusetts Mhmm.
那是个星期四的晚上。
On a Thursday night.
我想应该是1983年。
I think it was 1983.
明白了。
Okay.
如果我没记错的话。
If I could if I could remember correctly.
他当时就是从第16篇讲起这个信息的。
But he he preached this message from verse 16.
抱歉。
I'm sorry.
是诗篇第16篇第11节。
Psalm 16 verse 11.
你必指示我生命的道路。
You will show me the path of life.
在你的面前，是什么？
In thy presence is what?
充满喜乐。
Fullness of joy.
充满喜乐。
Fullness of joy.
在你右手边有永远的福乐。
At thy right hand are pleasures forevermore.
所以，在祂的同在中，应当充满喜乐。
So in his presence, there should be fullness of joy.
祂的同在是在教会里吗？
And is his presence in the church?
应当充满喜乐。
There should be fullness of joy.
如果没有喜乐，那也许祂的同在并不在那里。
If there's no joy, then maybe his presence is not there.
换句话说，当然我们里面有了耶稣基督，也得了永生的保障。
In other words, of course, we have Jesus Christ in us, and we are saved forever, eternal security.
但这是否意味着耶稣会出席每一间教会、每一次聚会呢？
But does that mean that Jesus is going to attend every church and every church service?
只有当祂得着荣耀，只有当他们高举真理、恩典和已完成的救赎时才会。
Only if He's being glorified, only if they're elevating the word, grace, the finished work.
所以，祢的同在中所充满的，正是这满满的喜乐。
So this joy in in your presence is fullness of joy.
这一点非常关键。
And this is key.
这正是我们所渴求的——不只是喜乐，而是满满的喜乐。
This is what we would desire, not just joy, but the fullness of joy.
我认为这背后牵涉到许多方面。
And I think that comes with a number of things.
第一，耶利米书十五章十六节说，我得着你的言语就当食物吃了，你的言语是我心中的欢喜快乐，因我被称作你的名。
Number one, Jeremiah fifteen sixteen, I defined thy word and I ate it, and it was a joy and rejoicing to my soul for I'm called by thy name.
我在圣经里，在神的话语中找到喜乐。
I find joy in the Bible, in the word of God.
我还在神的恩典中得着喜乐。
Then I have the joy of God's grace.
明白吗？
Okay?
神的恩典，祂的本性和属性，自然带来喜乐。
A direct result of the grace of God, his nature and character is joy.
我在教会里找到喜乐。
I find joy in the church.
我在福音里，在传扬福音的过程中找到喜乐。
I find joy in the gospel and bringing the gospel.
我在个人生活中也找到喜乐。
I find joy in my personal life.
我在婚姻和家庭中也找到喜乐。
I find joy in my marriage and in my family.
即使我每天和一群非基督徒一起工作，我依然能在生活的点滴中找到喜乐。
I find joy in the daily details of life even though I could be working in the midst of all people who are not even Christian.
你懂的吧。
You know?
我记得以前在监狱工作过。
I remember working in a prison.
我在监狱里干了十一年。
I worked in prisons for ten, eleven years.
你知道吗？
And you know what?
你可能没进过监狱，也没在那里工作过，但那里真的没什么喜乐可言。
I don't know if you've ever been in the prison or ever worked in a prison, but there's not there's not too much joy there at all.
你懂的吧。
You know?
所以能把上帝的喜乐传递给别人，这太重要了。
So to have the joy of God and then to give that joy to other people.
因此，在基督的身体里与弟兄姊妹彼此相交，享受这份喜乐，真的非常关键。
So how key it is to delight and have joy in the fellowship of the saints in the body of Christ.
这真的特别重要。
This is so key.
我觉得那些不参与教会团契的人，也就是基督的身体，他们的喜乐就受限了。
And I think people that do not fellowship in the church, his body Mhmm.
他们的喜乐只来自于自己生活中的事。
I think their joy is just limited to what's going on in their life.
比如他们身体好，
You know, they're healthy.
就感到开心，
They have joy.
一旦生病，
They get sick.
他们很痛苦。
They're miserable.
是吗？
Are they
钱吗？
money?
这正是我想问的问题。
That's the question I ask.
但真的是这样吗？
But are they?
我们总在谈论主里的喜乐、基督身体里的团契，但神的丰盛在哪里呢？
Because, I mean, we talk about the the joy of the Lord in the body of Christ, but where is the fullness of God?
对。
Yeah.
就在祂的身体里。
It's in his body.
是的。
Yes.
如果我不参与圣徒团契的喜乐，那我所经历的喜乐，就无法让我真正遇见神的丰盛。
So if I'm not part of the delight of the fellowship of the saints that brings me joy is I discover the fullness of God.
我才能遇见神。
I find God.
如果我很难说，我享受神本人，却不享受基督的身体，那就有问题了。
And if I it's difficult for me to say that I have I delight in I delight in the person of God and not delighting in the body of Christ.
没错。
Right.
因为神本人和他的丰盛，就在基督的身体里。
Because the person of God and his fullness is in the body of Christ.
你常常会看到，神把人聚集在一起，为的是敬拜团契。
You often see this idea of God drawing people together for the assembly.
不可停止聚会。
Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves together.
为什么？
Why?
因为神的丰盛就在那里。
Because there is the fullness of God.
那里也有完全的喜乐。
There is the fullness of joy.
那里吸引着我内心所珍爱的。
There is the the drawing of my delight.
我确实享受这些事。
I delight in those things.
我觉得，牧师，我们得学会享受这些事。
And I think, pastor, we have to learn to delight in those things.
这是一门属灵的功课。
This is a spiritual lesson.
我们要学习亲近神。
We learn to draw near.
我的意思是，门徒们在领受圣灵之前，就已经被教导要亲近神。
I mean, the disciples were taught to draw near even before they got the holy spirit.
他们被教导要彼此亲近，就像希伯来书10章22节说的，也要在基督的身体里聚集在一起。
They were taught the value of drawing together in Hebrews ten twenty two and in and coming together in the body of Christ.
对吧？
Right?
你觉得教会里有没有这样的情况：人们没意识到，传福音和布道本可以带来极大的喜乐？
Do you think that there's situations in churches where they don't realize the incredible joy they would have in the proclamation of the gospel and evangelism?
他们也没意识到，福音本身就是好消息。
And they don't realize that the gospel is good news.
是的。
Yeah.
这消息能让听的人感到欢喜。
It makes the hearer glad.
没错。
Mhmm.
它让听的人感到振奋。
It cheers the hearer.
对。
Mhmm.
但如今有多少教会和基督徒真正致力于向迷失的人传扬福音呢？
But how many churches today and how many Christians are involved with reaching out to lost people with the gospel?
这其中有着极大的喜乐。
And there's a tremendous joy.
我的意思是，一个人若赚得全世界，却赔上自己的灵魂，有什么益处呢？
I mean, what shall the profit a man if he gained the whole world and lose a soul?
赔上一个灵魂。
Lose a soul.
所以，一个罪人悔改，天上就有极大的喜乐，正如路加福音15章所说的。
So there's tremendous joy over one sinner, Luke 15, that repents.
一个改变心意的罪人。
One sinner that changes his mind.
天上有喜乐。
There's joy in heaven.
当然。
Sure.
所以顺便说一句，我在地上做的某件事，能在天上产生影响。
So by the way, I can do something on earth that will have an effect in heaven.
我们常常谈论天上的事如何影响地上的人和我们的行为。
Sometimes we often talk about the effects that heaven has on the people and the things that we do on the earth.
但我能给天上带来喜乐。
But I can bring joy in heaven.
这真有意思。
That's really interesting.
真正理解并传扬福音，就会带来喜乐。
By by really understanding the gospel and proclaiming it, there's joy.
圣徒们也有喜乐。
The saints have joy.
一个罪人悔改，天上的喜乐就格外大，这一点至关重要。
There's joy over one sinner that repents, and that's key.
是的。
Yeah.
你仔细想想，其实只是一个人的事。
So one person, really, when you think about that.
而这，正是福音的核心。
And and that's the gospel.
但这一点却常常被忽视。
And yet that's something that's neglected.
教会忽视它，基督徒也忽视它。
It's neglected by churches and it's neglected by Christians.
我走遍了全球一百一十多个国家，亲眼见过这种现象，我自己也可能就是这样。
I've been all over the world in a hundred and ten or twelve countries, and I've seen that and that could be my case too.
突然间，生活的琐事、问题和困境压得我喘不过气，但当我真正投身于福音时，这些事对我的影响就变得微不足道了。
All And of a sudden, I get so overwhelmed with the details of life, problems, situations that I think if I get involved with the gospel, those things become minute in in their effect on me.
换句话说，是的。
In other words Mhmm.
我在基督教里遇到一个问题。
Like, I've got a problem in Christianity.
明白吗？
Okay?
比如说，我遇到了一些让我烦恼或困扰的事情。
Like, say I have a problem or I have situations that are causing me grief or trouble.
解决的办法就是传扬福音。
Well, the way out of it is just proclaim the gospel.
你要意识到，我可以把福音传给一个人。
Realize that, like, I can give the gospel to a person.
即使我在教会里遇到各种问题和困难，我通常面对的都是已经重生的人。
And even even though I have situations and difficulties in the church, I'm usually dealing with people who are born again.
是的。
Mhmm.
他们都是重生的人。
They're always born again.
那那些还没得救的人呢？
But what about people that are not saved?
我们被教会里的事搞得焦头烂额，反而把福音给忘了。
So we get so overwhelmed with the church situation, we forget about the gospel.
对。
Mhmm.
顺便说一句，现在大多数教会都是这样。
And by the way, that's what the majority of churches are like now.
你说说，这世界上你觉得有多少教会真正传福音？
It's all about how many how many churches do you think in this world evangelize?
我觉得大概百分之十吧。
I think maybe 10%.
我觉得这个数字挺合理的。
I think that's a good figure.
有多少重生的信徒去传福音呢？
How many born again believers evangelize?
百分之十。
10%.
真是太让人难过了。
Very, very sad.
只剩下一小群人，可他们根本体会不到福音里的喜乐。
It's a remnant, but they don't see the joy in the gospel at all.
保罗却看到了。
Paul saw it.
说起来，他写这些话的时候正在坐牢，他在《腓立比书》里用了十五到十七次‘喜乐’这个词，而那时他正被关在监牢里。
He could be by the way, he's in prison when he's talking about this word, when he's using the word joy fifteen, seventeen times in Philippians, he's in jail.
对。
Mhmm.
他当时在牢里。
He's in jail.
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我真想知道那个监牢是什么样子的。
I I wonder what that prison cell was like.
我猜他们那时候连电视都没有，更别提软乎乎的床垫了。
They I bet you they didn't have a television and a nice soft mattress.
当然没有。
No.
你懂的。
You know?
一天三顿饭。
Three square meals a day.
三顿正经饭。
Three square.
你见过现在的监狱吗？
You ever see prisons now?
见过。
Yeah.
这简直难以置信。
It's incredible.
你进监狱的时候，说实话，我都想不明白。
When you go to prison and it's like, I don't even know.
是的。
Yeah.
也许这算是一种惩罚，但跟以前完全不一样了。
Maybe it is a punishment, but not like it used to be.
情况变了。
Things have changed.
情况变了。
Things have changed.
以前还逼着人拿锤子砸石头。
They used to make you break rock with a hammer.
你还记得吗？
Remember that?
那叫二十年代。
That's called the twenties.
对。
Yes.
那是在二十年代吗？
Is that in the twenties?
那是整整一百年前的事了。
That's a 100 years ago.
哦，原来如此。
Oh, okay.
我呢，我其实
Well, I'm I'm, you
你知道的，八十岁了。
know 80.
按理说该八十了，但你知道的？
Would be 80, but I'm you know?
我喜欢你刚才说的那番话。
I I I like what you said there.
信徒之间的团契能带来一种喜乐，这种喜乐让我更渴望与人亲近。
Like, the fellowship of the saints produces a joy that gives me a desire for people.
是的。
Yeah.
对吧？
Right?
你不可能不这样，这本身就是一种享受。
And so you cannot and and that's a delight.
我觉得这种体会是在团契中学会的。
And I think you learn that in the fellowship.
比如，当教会去传福音，当教会心系失丧的人，当我为这些事感到喜乐时，我的生命就成长了。
Like, you go when the church goes evangelizing, when the church has a vision for the lost people, when I delight in that, it developed.
我喜乐的地方，就是我生命成长的地方。
My delighting where I delight is where I'm developed.
我会这么说。
I would say it that way.
对。
Yeah.
我所享受的地方，就是我成长的地方。
Where I delight is where I'm developed.
如果我不享受与圣徒的团契，我就不会在团契中成长。
If I don't delight in the fellowship of the saints, I will not get developed in the fellowship of the saints.
在试炼中，我能有喜乐吗？
Can I can I have joy in a trial?
彼得说，你们信心的考验比金子更宝贵。
Peter says the trial of your faith is more precious than gold.
他就是这么说的。
That's what he says.
在考验中，我能有喜乐吗？
Can I have joy in a test?
我知道这不容易，但上帝说，我特别喜欢贾德森晚年说的那句话。
I know that's not easy, but God says that the joy I I like that statement made by Judson in the last years of his life.
在忧伤、健康或痛苦中仍要享受。
Enjoy your sorrow, health, or pain.
我的脚步依然向前。
My course is onward still.
我们在缅甸的荒原上撒种。
We sow on Burma's barren plain.
我们在锡安的山上收获。
We reap on Zion's Hill.
当我们传扬这福音时，会收获许多美好的果子。
And so there's so many things that we will reap when we are proclaimers of this gospel.
是的。
Yeah.
明天周六早上九点来参加灵修，然后十点到十一点半左右出去 outreach，之后一起吃个午餐收尾，欢迎大家来参加。
And come on out tomorrow on Saturday at 09:00 in the morning for a devotional and then an outreach from, say, 10:00 to 11:30 or so, a lunch wrap after that, and just come on out.
也许你以前没做过这件事，所以错过了其中的喜乐。
Maybe you've never done that before and you're missing joy.
有些人受到来自敌人的误导，觉得分享福音是一件很难的事。
Some people have been given this projection from the enemy about the difficulties of sharing the gospel.
也许他们就是这么看的。
Well, maybe they see it this way.
也许他们没把这事看作是圣徒团契的一部分。
Maybe they don't see that as part of the fellowship of the saints.
对。
Yeah.
我的意思是，希伯来书10章25节并不是要求大家必须去教会。
I mean, I can this Hebrews ten twenty five is not a mandate for church attendance.
说实话，它强调的是圣徒之间的团契。
It's a mandate for the fellowship of the saint, to be honest with you.
不要放弃彼此相顾，要在话语中聚集在一起。
Do not forsake this something of yourself together in the word.
不要放弃在传福音中彼此同行的这份联结。
Do not forsake this something of yourself together in outreach.
不要放弃在教会中彼此相交的这份联结。
Do not forsake this something of yourselves together in this in church.
不要放弃在祷告会中彼此相伴的这份联结。
Do not forsake this something of yourself together in the prayer meeting.
在这些事上，确实如此。
On all of those things Yeah.
我们靠着圣灵的能力，在与圣徒的团契中得着喜乐，因为正是在他们中间，我才得以成长。
We learn by the spirit's power to delight in the fellowship with the saints because in them is where I get developed.
没错。
Absolutely.
这话说得一点不假。
That that's absolutely true.
但如果教会没有平衡好这些方面，就会让人觉得只有奉献金钱才能得喜乐。
But if a church is not balancing those things, then they only say you get joy when you give money.
对
Mhmm.
你独自来教会也能得到喜乐。
You get joy when you come to church alone.
对
Mhmm.
但事情不止这么简单。
But there's more to it than that.
我祷告的时候能有喜乐吗？
Can I have joy in prayer?
我传福音的时候能有喜乐吗？
Can I have joy in evangelism?
我在人际关系中能有喜乐吗？
Can I have joy in relationships?
我读圣经的时候能有喜乐吗？
Can I have joy when I read the Bible?
对。
Mhmm.
你知道，上帝的话语。
You know, the word of God.
这里面有喜乐吗？
Is there joy?
如果撒旦能夺走喜乐，他就能让信徒彻底对教会生活失去兴趣。
And so if Satan can rob joy, he can really get a believer to a place where they want nothing to do with church life Yeah.
或者对传福音、对福音本身失去兴趣。
Or evangelism or the gospel.
他们跟这些事几乎没什么关系了。
They have very, very little to do with that.
但当我读圣经的时候，它应该是带给我喜乐的书。
But when I read the Bible, it should be a book of joy for me.
是的。
Yeah.
你知道吧？
You know?
他们根本没意识到，通过团契可以得到成长的机会。
Well, they don't they they don't see the opportunity to grow through fellowship.
我觉得很多信徒其实并不明白‘团契’这个词的意思，也不清楚喜乐的产生正是来自团契。
And I think maybe for many believers, we don't understand what that word fellowship means and that the production of joy is a result of fellowship.
如果我和喜乐的源头——神——有团契，我的生命里就会产生喜乐，就像加拉太书五章二十二节说的那样。
If I if I fellowship with the source of joy, which is God, then there's a production of joy in my life in Galatians five twenty two.
如果我和神的子民有团契，那么在聚会中就会生出喜乐。
If I fellowship with the saints of God, then there's a production of joy through the assembly.
是的。
Mhmm.
也许你生命里没有喜乐，其中一个原因就是你离开了聚会，而不是在聚会中与人相交。
And maybe the fact that one of the reasons why you have no joy in your life is that you've forsaken the assembly instead of fellowshipping in the assembly.
我们确实得学会这一点。
And we and I guess we have to learn.
我想我们确实需要学会这一点。
I guess we have to learn.
我觉得，放弃说‘是的’。
And I think forsaking the word Yeah.
而那正是带来喜乐的。
Which brings joy.
放弃祷告。
Forsaking prayer.
对。
Mhmm.
放弃与人分享好消息。
Forsaking relating to people with good news.
对。
Mhmm.
向人传讲好消息。
Telling people about good news.
所以，如果所有这些带来快乐的事物我都拒绝了，那我的快乐又从何而来呢？
So maybe with all of those having their source of joy and I say no to them, then where's my joy coming from?
我的快乐居然取决于今天有没有太阳、有没有加薪、家里一切都顺不顺利，就这样一件接一件地依赖下去。
It was going to come from whether or not the sun is out today, whether or not I got a raise and pay, whether or not everything's going well in the family, whether or not whether or not it keep going on and on, it goes.
这样一来，快乐就全靠这些外在的事物了。
It becomes all based upon natural things.
是的。
Yeah.
你会变得属灵上情绪化。
You get spiritually moody.
你今天属灵上情绪化了吗？
Are you spiritually moody today?
如果你觉得今天属灵上情绪低落，也许是因为你没有以什么为满足？
If you feel like you're spiritually moody today, maybe it's because you're not what are you delighting in?
我会问自己这个问题。
I would ask that question.
你从哪里得着喜乐？
What are you delighting in?
因为灵里的低落根本带不来喜乐。
Because spiritual moodiness does not does not produce joy.
它只会带来沮丧、焦虑和自我定罪。
It produces depression, anxiety, self condemnation.
你就像《花生》漫画里那个头顶总跟着乌云的人，走哪儿云都跟着。
You get that cloud, like, on Peanuts, you had that guy walking around with a cloud over his head.
身体里的光景。
The view in the body
基督。
Christ.
就是这个。
That.
对。
Yes.
我会的。
I do.
你就像头顶上一直飘着一朵乌云一样到处走。
You're walking around, like like, with with the cloud over top of your head.
等等，不对劲。
You're like, wait a minute.
我到底怎么了？
What's wrong with me?
多跟基督的身体在一起。
Get around the body of Christ.
这个身体在做什么？
What is the body doing?
神的教会正在做什么？
What is the church of God doing?
要以这些事为乐。
Delight in those things.
我们有两个评论。
We have two comments.
真希望他们能给我们打电话。
I wish they would call us up.
阿尔弗雷德·泽德克牧师所看重的，不如打个电话来聊聊。
Pastor Alfred Zedk, what he delights in, call us up and talk about it.
达里奥牧师，要以福音为乐。
Pastor Dario, joy in the gospel.
我们并不在收取。
We're not taking
从家里。
it from house.
非洲。
Africa.
不接电话。
No phone calls.
哦，我们不接电话。
Oh, we don't take phone calls.
天哪。
Oh my god.
难怪他们不打来，因为我们根本不接电话。
No wonder they're not calling because we don't take them.
我们以前是接的，对吧？
We used to, didn't we?
那是好几年前的事了吧？
Is that, like, years ago?
所以阿尔弗雷德牧师说，他享受与圣徒同在，我很认同他后半段说的话。
So pastor Alfred said, I delight in being present in the body of the saints, and I like the second part of what he said there.
积极参与。
Being engaged.
积极参与。
Being engaged.
你知道这是什么意思吗？
You know what that is?
关键是这样，这背后有原因。
That's like because because here's the key.
我不是随便来露个面。
I'm not just showing up.
我是真正参与其中的。
I'm involved.
我全身心投入。
I'm a participatory.
我实实在在地在场。
I'm in the game.
对吧？
Right?
不管在什么层面都一样。
And and it doesn't matter on what level.
身体本身就会传扬。
The body's going to evangelize.
我会去。
I will go.
我能祷告。
I can pray.
我能说话。
I can speak.
我积极参与。
I'm engaged.
我也许不是那个讲道的人，但我就在会众当中。
I'm I'm maybe I'm not the speaker of the word, but I'm in the assembly.
我在听道。
I'm hearing the word.
我积极参与。
I'm engaged.
祷告会。
Prayer meeting.
我积极参与。
I'm engaged.
所以在圣徒的团契中，‘团契’这个词讲的是真正的投入，不只是人在场，而是全心参与。
So I in the fellowship of the saints, the word for fellowship speaks about engagement, not just presence alone, but engagement.
说得真好，牧师。
That's a good word, Pastor.
没错。
Right.
对。
Yes.
就是这样
That's
。
it.
有些人只是坐在座位上，算不上真正参与。
I mean and some people are just engaged in sitting in a in a seat.
他们对基督教的了解，就只是有个固定的座位。
And the only thing they know about Christianity is is a seat in the
教堂里。
church.
没错。
Yeah.
他们每次都非得坐同一个位置。
And they go they always have to have the same seat.
还记得有一次，有人说：‘这是我的座位。’
Remember one time somebody said, that's my seat.
我当时就想，哇。
I'm like, wow.
我还以为这座位是你买下来的呢。
I didn't know that you bought this.
我的座位。
My seat.
上面还刻了名字？
Name on it?
以前有些教堂是可以买下自己的长椅的。
Some churches used to be able to buy your own pew.
那是很久以前的事了。
That's going back in the day.
买自己的长椅？
Buy your own pew?
明白了。
Okay.
让我想想。
Let's see.
达里奥牧师说，北非的福音里充满了喜乐。
Pastor Dario says, joy, joy, joy in the gospel from North Africa.
我们爱你。
We love you.
史蒂文·韦尔斯说，我知道。
Steven Wells says, I know.
对吧？
Right?
牧师，他们又把手机排好了。
Pastor, they get those phones lined up again.
谢谢你，史蒂文，对我的信任。
Thank you, Steven, for that vote of confidence.
卡罗尔·贝利说，当我们与圣灵在圣道中彼此相交时，即使生病不能公开与教会团契，我们仍会与他人一同充满喜乐。
Carol Bailey says, when we have love fellowship with the holy spirit in the word, we will be filled with joy with others even when we are sick and can't openly fellowship with the body.
神是信实的。
God is faithful.
确实如此。
That's true.
阿门。
Amen.
史蒂文·韦尔斯说，上周他妈妈和家人去了一间新教会，刚开进停车场就感受到了喜乐与平安。
Steven Wells says, my mother visited a new church with my family last week and says she felt joy and peace is simply pulling into the parking lot.
这种感受是实实在在的。
It can be tangible.
你说得对，史蒂文。
That is true, Steven.
这种感受是实实在在的。
It can be tangible.
可以被察觉，也能自然地感受到。
It can be discerned, and it can be organically sensed.
你说得没错。
You're right.
这个想法很好。
That's a good thought.
我觉得，这真的是个非常关键的话题，喜乐。
I think, I think, really, this is such a key topic, joy.
没错。
Sure.
确实如此。
It really, it really is.
因为尼希米记第八章第十节说，耶和华的喜乐是我们的力量。
Because as Nehemiah eight ten said, the joy of the Lord is our strength.
它能给我们力量，让我们继续与神同行。
It's a part of giving us the strength to walk on with God and go on with God.
你想想看，有时候我们被各种试炼、困难、麻烦、问题，还有人际关系的冲突压得喘不过气。
And when you think about it, sometimes we get so overwhelmed with trials, tests, tribulations, problems, difficulties, personality conflicts, and all that.
突然间，喜乐去哪儿了？一点喜乐都没有了。
And all of a sudden, whatever happened to joy, there's just no joy.
于是别人就觉得，这生活简直是一种煎熬。
And then people see it's a drudgery.
生活变得枯燥乏味，就是因为失去了喜乐。
It's a drudgery to be And that's because they have no joy.
顺便问一下，患难中也能有喜乐吗？
By the way, can you have joy in a trial?
当然可以。
Yes, you can.
在人际关系冲突中，也能有喜乐吗？
Can you have joy in a personality conflict?
你真的能拥有喜乐吗？
Can you have joy?
我认识一位女士，她嫁给了一个不信主的人，这并不是她故意选的。
I've met people, a woman who's married to an unsaved man, and that was she didn't do that on purpose.
她是在信主之前就和他结婚的。
That happened before she got saved.
后来她信了主，可他却完全不想要神。
And she was born again, and he he doesn't want God.
但她依然能拥有喜乐吗？
And yet she can she have joy?
能。
Yes.
她真的可以。
She can.
尽管家里一塌糊涂，她仍能经历主的喜乐，并把这份喜乐带给不信的人。
Even though there's nothing but a lot of trouble in the home, she can have the joy of the Lord and she can bring that joy to unsaved people.
这太关键了。
This is so key.
你看到外面有多少人，整天对生活满腹牢骚。
And you see so many people out there that are like, they're just disgruntled with life.
基督徒情绪低落，整天阴沉沉的，就是那种类型。
Moody Christians, Moody, Moody, Moody, like, oh, got that crowd.
而且
And
未信主的人。
unsaved people.
是的。
Yeah.
他们没意识到，答案就在神自己身上。
And they don't realize that the answer is in God himself.
你一直在寻找那些终将消逝的快乐。
You're looking for joy and things that are going to pass away.
对。
Yeah.
你把希望寄托在青春和健康上，但人总会老去。
You're looking for joy in your youth and your health, and you're going to get old.
到时候，连系鞋带都做不到。
You're not going to be able to tie your own shoes anymore.
连弯腰都困难了。
You know, you can't even bend over to do it.
总会有那么一天的。
The day will come.
总会有那么一天的。
The day will come.
所以，喜乐才是关键。
So joy.
那遇到问题和困难的时候，又该怎么应对呢？
And how about like dealing with situations that happen problems?
我得在困境中保持喜乐，不能让问题取代了神的位置。
Well, I've gotta maintain my joy in the midst of it so that I don't let the problem become my God.
我的喜乐是从神而来的。
But I get joy from God.
一旦你把问题看得比神还大，那就出问题了。
See, the problem becomes bigger than God.
这对我来说也是个挑战。
And that's a challenge on my own.
我自己努力找喜乐很难，因为我信靠基督的身体，我从中得着激励。
Me trying to find joy on my own is difficult because I believe in the body of Christ, I am encouraged.
我得着供应。
I am fed.
对。
Mhmm.
我甚至能从情绪低落中被带领，进入神的同在，得着祂的喜乐。
I'm I can even be led from my moodiness into the presence of God and led into the joy of God.
如果你是个容易情绪低落的基督徒，头上总像压着乌云，走到哪儿都觉得糟透了，那就去靠近一些属神的人。
If you're that moody Christian, if you're that person with the cloud over your head, you walk around, just run out, everything is horrible, get around some godly people.
多和基督的身体在一起，让他们来鼓励你。
Get around the body of Christ, and let them encourage you.
让他们给你加力量。
Let them put strength in.
‘鼓励’这个词，就是这个意思。
That's what the word encouragement mean.
不然的话，你只能一个人躲在角落里，说：‘这事儿就这样了。’
Or otherwise, you can sit in your corner by yourself alone and just say, well, it's just the way it is.
你也可以在自己最圣洁的信仰里不断建造自己。
And you can you can build yourself up in the most holy faith.
你别误会我的意思。
Don't get me wrong.
是的。
Yeah.
但我想说的是，神也赐给了你教会群体。
But what I wanna say is God also gave you the body.
没错。
Yes.
祂赐给你基督的身体这个恩赐，就像以弗所书第四章说的，这是你生命中的礼物。
He gave you the gift of the body of Christ, which Ephesians four, it's a gift in your life.
教会、信徒的聚集，就是一份礼物。
The church, the assembly is a gift.
你得把这份礼物拆开。
You unpack the gift.
把礼物打开来看。
Open the gift up.
这正是人们需要去做的。
And that's what people need to do.
但也许他们经历过一些事情，
But yet, maybe they've had situations that have happened
对。
Mhmm.
还有性格上的冲突。
And personality conflicts.
所以他们不敢再往前迈一步。
And so they they don't step beyond that.
那接下来该怎么做呢？
That's Thinking about what about the next step?
你知道吗，这挺有意思的。
You know, this is interesting.
我之前说过，在《腓立比书》里，他一共用了26次‘福音’或者‘喜乐’这个词。
Like I said before, 26 times in Philippians, he uses the word either gospel or joy.
我的意思是，在这么短的一封信里，他就用了26次。
I mean, 26 times in that small epistle to the Philippians.
这真的很惊人，因为他想强调喜乐，毕竟当时教会正经历着种种状况。
And that's just incredible because he wants to emphasize joy because of where what was going on in the church.
是的。
Mhmm.
内部分裂、抱怨、各种问题——就像我说的，罗马政府、希腊文化、犹太宗教、异教偶像崇拜，全都混在一起。
Division, murmuring, problems, like I said, the Roman government, the Greek culture, the Jewish religion, pagan idolatry, all these things taking place.
是的。
Mhmm.
他特别希望喜乐能成为他们一切行动的核心。
And he wants to he wants to make sure that joy is really at the center of all that they're doing.
是的
Yeah.
别让那些事夺走你的喜乐。
That don't let those things take your joy.
对
Mhmm.
你明白吗？
You know?
你就能感受到神在会众当中。
That's how you can sense that God is in the assembly.
在团契中，你能体会到一种纯粹的喜乐。
You can sense in the fellowship that there's a pure joy.
它不一定总是让人开心。
It may not be always happy.
环境也不总是顺利。
The circumstances may not always be good.
但这就是腓立比教会现在所缺少的。
But and that's what's missing in the Philippi assembly right there.
保罗的意思是，好吧。
Paul is saying, okay.
你们有聚会。
You have services.
你们有聚会，但牧师病了，而我不在那儿。
You have assembly, but your pastor's sick, and I'm not there.
即使如此，你们在正确的团契中，依然可以拥有喜乐。
You can still have joy in the assembly in the right fellowship.
那两个女人的团契出了问题，这种错误的团契逐渐吞噬了腓立比教会的喜乐。
Those two women had the wrong fellowship, which ate away at the joy of the Philippi church.
所以神说，我的团契只要在圣灵里，就必然有喜乐。
So God says, my fellowship always has joy when it's in the spirit.
关键就在这里。
Key.
对，这是个关键点。
And it's it's a key.
去读读那封书信吧。
Read just read that epistle.
明白。
Mhmm.
读读《腓立比书》，好好想想，他到底用了多少次福音和喜乐这两个词。
Read a book of read the Philippian book and just think about it, about how many times he's using the word gospel and joy.
每当我遇到觉得压力很大的情况时，我就会去读这段经文。
And maybe I I read that whenever I have things that I think are overwhelming situations that are going on.
我会去读《腓立比书》。
I go to Philippians.
我读《腓立比书》是因为我看到了保罗。
I go to Philippians because I see Paul.
他当时正被关在监狱里。
There are there are apostles in prison.
他们的牧师正在去世。
Their pastor is dying.
教会里出现了分裂。
There's division in the church.
大家在背后抱怨。
There's murmuring.
正如我所说，还有罗马政府、希腊文化、犹太人的律法主义，各种问题一大堆，可他却一直在传递喜乐。
And as I said, all the other things, the Roman government, the Greek culture, the Jews, legalism, and yet he's giving them joy.
这话真好。
That's a great word.
今天，在这一周的结尾，我们为很多事感到喜悦。
Today, at the end of this week, we delight in a lot of things.
但当我们享受基督身体里的团契时，生命中就会产生喜乐。
But when we delight in the fellowship of the body of Christ, the result in our life can be joy.
它能带来喜乐。
It can be joy.
这正是我带来的喜乐。
And that's the joy that I bring.
当我活在圣灵里，这就是我所领受的份。
That's my portion that I bring when I walk in the spirit.
这种喜乐，是我从基督的身体里，在圣灵中汲取的。
And that's a joy that I take from the body of Christ in the spirit.
就像《撒母耳记上》第20章18节，约拿单对大卫说：你的位置空了，你的座位被人惦记。
It's like, first Samuel 20 verse 18 when Jonathan told David that your place is empty and your seat is missed.
你在聚会中带来些什么，也会从聚会中领受些什么。
You bring something to the assembly, and you take something from the assembly.
所以，在聚会中，喜乐就是其中之一。
And that's why in the assembly, joy is one of those things.
喜乐，就是其中之一。
Joy is one of those things.
这非常关键。
That that is key.
所以我们多么需要放下外界的期待和内心的投射
So how important it is for us to disregard all of the projections from the outside, reflections from the inside
对
Mhmm.
活在神的喜乐里
And live in the joy of God.
我特别喜欢，圣经里的这个概念和恩典是紧密相连的
And I love how the word is so connected to the word grace.
没错
Mhmm.
我觉得，如果一个教会或者一个信徒不是活在恩典里，我的意思是，他们或许偶尔会有喜乐的时刻
I think that if a church or a believer is not a grace believer or a grace church, I mean, maybe they have opportunities now and then.
会有一点喜乐，但远不是他们本可以拥有的那种喜乐
They have a little joy, but not like the joy that they could have.
所以，关键就在于恩典
So it is grace.
恩典带来果效。
Charis produces.
对。
Mhmm.
所以我能在主里常常喜乐。
And so I can rejoice in the Lord always.
对。
Mhmm.
真的吗？
Really?
你是在说笑吧？
Is that can are you are you kidding me?
就算在最糟糕的情况下，你也知道？
In the worst of situations, you know?
是的。
Yes.
在最糟糕的情况下，神依然能倾倒祂的灵，而这灵就是我们里面的喜乐之灵。
In the worst of situations, God's available to pour out his spirit, and and the spirit is a spirit of joy in us.
我们里面那喜乐的灵。
The spirit of joy in us.
这才是关键。
That's the key.
能够连上我们里面那喜乐的灵——圣灵，当我们活在其中，祂就浇灌神的爱，带我们进入神的喜乐。
Being able to tap into the spirit of joy that's in us, the holy spirit, whom when we walk in that sheds the rod the love of God, which leads us right into into the joy of God.
那我什么时候能释放出这份喜乐呢？
And then I'm able to shed that where?
在基督的身体里。
In the body of Christ.
我先学会在个人生活中与这喜乐相交，然后才学会在群体中一同经历。
And I learned how to fellowship with that first individually, and then I learned to fellowship in that corporately.
之后，我也能在这喜乐中，与失丧的人分享福音。
And I then I can learn to fellowship in that in the in the gospel with the lost.
我在工作中也能与这份喜乐相交。
I can fellowship with that on my job.
你并不是因为活在喜乐中，生活就变好了；而是因为你活在喜乐中，你自己才变得更好。
And you find that life is not better because you walk in joy, but you're better in life because you walk in joy.
你的人生变得更丰盛了。
You're better in life.
对吧？
Right?
基督在你里面，不仅能拯救你，还能借着你去拯救别人。
Christ in you can deliver you and use you to deliver somebody else.
你可能不知道，在教会里，在圣徒的团契中，神会怎样使用你去服侍别人，去走近一个人，把主的喜乐传递给他。
And you don't know in the body of Christ, you don't know in the fellowship with the saints how God can use you to minister to somebody else, to walk to someone else and give them the joy of the Lord.
突然间，主的喜乐就成了你的力量。
And suddenly, the joy of the Lord is your strength.
它也是别人的力量。
It's also their strength too.
对。
Right.
这喜悦不是单靠与神的关系就有的。
It doesn't come just from the person of God.
也应当来自基督的身体。
It comes it should come from the body of Christ too.
是的。
Mhmm.
也应当来自福音。
It should come from the gospel.
很多人之所以感受不到喜乐，是因为他们没有与教会和信徒群体相交，也缺乏对福音的真实连接。
I think a lot of people miss joy because they're not fellowshipping with the body and the church, and there's really no relationship to the Gospel.
但他们说他们有耶稣基督，确实有。
But they say they have Jesus Christ, and they do.
他们是重生了的人。
They are born again.
但他们 somehow漏掉了喜乐的这三个方面中的两个。
But somehow they're missing a third, two of those three aspects of joy.
他们读圣经，结果得到的却是定罪，而不是让圣经成为生命中的喜乐之言。
And they read the Bible and they get condemned instead of having it be a word of joy to my life.
你明白吗？
You know?
这非常关键，也特别重要。
And that's so key and so important.
所以再强调一次，回到诗篇十六篇十一节。
So once again, go back to Psalm sixteen eleven.
你必将生命的道路指示我。
You will show me the path of life.
对。
Mhmm.
在你面前有满足的喜乐。
In your presence is fullness of joy.
对
Mhmm.
在你右手边有永远的喜乐。
At your right hand are pleasures evermore.
永远的喜乐。
Pleasures evermore.
他在诗篇十六篇第三节看到神的喜悦，又在第八节体会到在神同在中的喜乐。
Well, he delights in verse three of Psalm 16, and then he finds joy in the presence of God in verse eight.
你甚至能从整篇诗篇中看出来。
You you you can even see this whole Yeah.
这确实是一篇很棒的诗篇。
The it's a great Psalm, actually.
当你谈到与神、与神的子民之间的团契时，诗篇十六篇真是再合适不过了。
When you talk about a fellowship within God, with God's people, it's a great Psalm in Psalm 16.
美好的诗篇。
Beautiful Psalm.
哇哦。
Wow.
我们这里收到一些评论。
We got some comments here.
斯蒂芬·韦尔斯说，喜乐会传染，让主的喜乐像病毒一样传播开来。
Stephen Wells says joy begets joyous infectious make make the joy of the Lord go viral.
我喜欢这个说法，斯蒂芬。
I like that, Stephen.
我也喜欢‘病毒式传播’这个说法。
I like that viral part.
你明白吗？
You know?
这真有意思。
It's so funny.
人们来到神的殿里，却总想把自己的意图、观点，甚至政治立场带进来。
People come into the house of God, and they want to infect their own intentions, their own opinions, and even their politics.
我要不要就活在主的喜乐里呢？
How about I walk in the joy of the Lord?
我为什么不把这份喜乐当作我在团契中的服事，而不仅仅是个身份呢？
Why don't I why don't I let that be my ministry in the fellowship rather than just my position?
洛雷塔，哇。
Loretta Wow.
洛雷塔·卡特告诉我，我们活在圣灵里。
Loretta Carter told me, we live in the spirit.
心里有喜乐，有神的话，也有歌声。
There is joy in our heart, the word in our heart, and a song in our hearts.
阿伯说，给你们二位满满的爱。
Arber says much love to both of you.
也祝你们二位一切都好。
Great great to both of you.
真是个美好的信息。
Great message.
真是很棒的分享。
Great message.
谢谢。
Thank you.
米莫托告诉我们，他正在实时收听。
Mimoto has informed us that he's watching live.
哇。
Wow.
史蒂夫·德韦尔斯，我记得我爸爸以前常唱那首搞笑的歌，说如果你想拥有喜乐，就得为它笑，然后就会引发一连串的大笑。
Steve DeWells, I remember my dad singing that silly song, if you want joy, you must laugh for it, and then the whole entire course of laughter.
史蒂夫，那首歌我确实记得，但我可不会在广播里唱出来。
Steven, I remember that song, but I'm not gonna sing it on the air.
你肯定不希望听到我唱，史蒂夫。
You wouldn't want that, Steven.
相信我。
Trust me.
主的喜乐是我的力量。
The the joy of the lord is my strength.
是的。
Yes.
Loretta，求神继续祝福这两位忠心传扬基督福音的战士。
Loretta, again, god bless our these two faithful soldiers of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
求耶稣宝贵的宝血遮盖他们。
Cover them in the precious blood of Jesus.
阿们。
Amen.
谢谢。
Thank you.
这个祝福我收下了，Loretta。
I'll take that, Loretta.
能得着祝福的时候，我一定接着。
I'll take the blessing when I can get it.
所以，也许我提个问题，关于喜乐的事。
So maybe, just a thought here, question about joy.
当我失去喜乐的时候，会发生什么？
What happens when I lose my joy?
我该怎么把它找回来？
What how do I how do I get that back?
很多人会说，他们对聚会失去了喜乐。
Because there's a lot of folks that will tell you that they've lost the joy for the assembly.
他们对福音失去了喜乐。
They've lost the joy for the gospel.
他们对圣经话语失去了喜乐。
They've lost the joy for the word.
就像你刚才说的，生活中有时候真的会让人被打垮。
And like you said, sometimes in life, you get beaten down.
身心都感到疲惫不堪。
You get beat up.
生活不容易，人难免会有点受伤。
The things are rough, and you you kinda like bruise a little bit.
身体上感到疲惫不堪。
You're bruised in the body.
你得按照神的心意来做决定。
You're gonna have to make decisions based upon the mind of God.
对。
Mhmm.
做个决定。
Making a decision.
其中一个决定，就是领受主的喜乐。
And one of those decisions would be to receive the joy of the Lord.
我必须做出一个选择。
I've gotta I've gotta make a decision.
换句话说，也许周围的处境并不会改变。
In other words, maybe situations are not gonna change.
我一直在等情况发生变化。
I'm waiting for situational change.
我会重新找回喜乐。
I'll get my joy back.
但要不要换个想法呢？
But how about having a change of thinking?
好的。
Okay.
所谓悔改，就是改变我们的想法。
And and metanoia, we change our thinking.
一旦想法转变了，神的喜乐就会随之而来。
And then with a change of thinking comes the joy of God.
有了神的心思，就会有神的喜乐。
With the mind of God comes the joy of God.
领受神的话语，就会得着神的喜乐。
With the word of God comes the joy of God.
按上帝的教义，就能得着祂的喜乐。
With the doctrines of God comes the joy of God.
靠上帝的灵，就能得着祂的喜乐。
With the spirit of God comes the joy of God.
所以归根结底，就是我要转变自己的想法。
And so it means me just changing my thinking.
转变我的想法。
Changing my thinking.
我一直在用自己对事情的看法，而不是按上帝的眼光来看。
I'm I'm thinking about the situation outside of how God thinks.
明白了。
Okay.
所以我才一点喜乐都没有。
And that's why I don't have any joy.
你懂吧？
You know?
我换了个角度去看这件事。
I'm looking at it in such in another way.
所以。
So
我们总是把喜乐和快乐挂钩，用同样的方式去理解。
We have a way of of connecting our joy like we connect to happiness.
我们可以把喜乐建立在环境上。
We can take our joy and make it circumstantial.
是的。
Yeah.
或者，我期待某种结果。
Or we have I expect a certain result.
只要得到那个结果，我就觉得开心。
And if that I get that result, I have joy.
但生活中很多时候，你确实得到了想要的结果，却感觉空荡荡的。
And oftentimes, you in life, you actually do get the result that you want, but it's empty.
你没得到我想要的，我还是感受不到快乐。
You don't got what I wanted, and I still don't feel joy.
想象一下天堂里的那种喜悦。
Imagine the joy of heaven.
没有旧有的罪性。
No old sin nature.
对。
Mhmm.
没有魔鬼。
No devil.
没有邪灵。
No demons.
对吧？
Right?
对。
Mhmm.
没有大地。
No earth.
那几乎就是不再需要工作了。
That's almost No more work.
不再有工作。
No more jobs.
这简直难以想象。
That's almost unimaginable.
那意味着 literally
That mean literally
这几乎就是
It's almost
远远超出了我们现实的范畴。
so far beyond our realm of reality.
这简直难以想象。
That's almost unimaginable.
就像
Like
没有肉体。
No flesh.
那会是个什么样的世界？根本没世界。
What kind of world it No world.
是的。
Yeah.
只有耶稣和圣徒，对。
It's just Jesus and the saints Yeah.
还有天使。
And the angels.
没错。
Mhmm.
那该是多大的喜乐啊。
And what a joy.
那将是完全纯粹的喜乐。
That will be perfect, pure joy.
但我们可以通过与神自己、基督的身体，以及神永恒的旨意建立关系，来经历这种喜乐。
But yet we can experience this joy by just relating to God himself and the body of Christ and the eternal purpose of God.
我很喜欢这一点。
I love that.
与神自己、基督的身体，以及神永恒的旨意建立关系。
Relate to God himself and the body of Christ and the eternal purpose of God.
是的。
Yeah.
即使在监禁的环境中，你也能找到真正的喜乐。
And you'll find your joy in the midst of prison situations.
对。
Yeah.
保罗写腓立比书的时候，就是在监狱里。
Paul's in prison in Philippians.
对。
Mhmm.
他用了这个词好多次。
And he uses he uses that word so many times.
是的。
Yeah.
十七次、十八次、十九次。
Seventeen, eighteen, 19 times.
他怎么能这样呢？
How can he do that?
因为他首先是个为主被囚的人，然后才是在监牢里。
Because he's he's a prisoner of the Lord first before he's in prison.
他确实是他们的囚犯，但同时他也在监牢中。
You know, he is definitely their prisoner, but he is in prison.
他属于神，某种意义上是这样。
He is owned by God in a way.
这个词叫‘desmios’，意思是主的囚徒。
The word desmios, a prisoner of the Lord.
所以，神在他生命中的这份关系，让他无论处境如何都充满喜乐。
So God in him in that relationship brings him great joy regardless of what's going on.
你明白吗？
You know?
真美。
Beautiful.
牧师，今天节目最后有什么想对大家说的吗？
Pastor, any closing thoughts for our program today?
满满的喜乐。
Fullness of joy.
祂的同在就是满满的喜乐。
And his presence is fullness of joy.
顺便说一句，你在教会里就能遇见祂的同在——没错。
And by the way, you find his presence in the church Yes.
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