#2543 - MrBallen

听起来像是一部恐怖电影的绝佳开场。

And it's Sounds like an awesome opening to a horror movie.

这个故事会变得很离奇。

This this gets wild.

如果你没听过这个故事，那你可要好好听听，因为那些照片简直疯狂。

If you've not heard the story, you're in for a treat because the pictures are crazy.

他们出发了，乌拉尔山脉非常崎岖。

They step out, and and the Ural Mountains is is rugged.

那里有巨大的、被风吹过的冰雪覆盖的山脉。

It's like these huge windswept icy mountains.

虽然有几片森林区域，但那里崎岖得不能再崎岖了。

There's like a couple sections of forest, but it's just as rugged as rugged can be.

这些徒步者出发后，开始拍照。

And so these hikers step off, and they start taking pictures.

尽管那是1959年，他们拍的照片放到今天也毫不逊色。

And even though it's 1959, the pictures they're taking could be taken today.

几乎就像自拍一样。

It's almost like selfie style.

他们都在笑。

They're they're smiling.

每个人心情都特别好。

Everyone's in such good spirits.

他们知道自己能通过这次考验。

They know they're gonna pass this test.

这对他们来说根本不算什么。

This is this is this is nothing for them.

这就像是一次胜利的巡游。

This is this is a victory lap.

于是他们就出发去了乌拉尔山脉。

And so off they go into the Ural Mountains.

这会是好几天的徒步，但他们预计在2月12号左右出来，或者说完成他们的路线。

It's gonna be like a multi day hike, but they're expected to be out or, I guess, finished with their route, I think, on February 12.

所以这是一次长达数周的徒步旅行。

So it's a several week long hike.

2月12日，他们本应发消息确认完成徒步。

February 12, and they were supposed to send some message to to say they were complete with the hike.

2月12日到了，却没有消息发来。

February 12 comes, and no message is sent.

没有人收到这九名徒步者成功穿越这片险峻山区的消息。

No one gets word that these nine hikers have successfully navigated this treacherous stretch of the mountains.

起初，说实话，没人太担心，因为第一，他们有九个人。

And at first, to be honest, no one was really that concerned because one, there's nine of them.

他们可以说是国内最顶尖的登山者之一。

They are quite literally some of the best mountaineers in the land.

如果有人能扛住恶劣环境，那就是他们。

If anybody can can withstand the elements, it's them.

所以并没有立刻采取行动。

And so there wasn't this immediate call to action.

但在2月12日之后的几天里，这九名徒步者的家人变得非常担心。

But over the coming days after February 12, the families of these these nine hikers got really concerned.

他们说，我们还没有收到他们的消息。

They're like, we haven't heard from them.

他们在哪里？

Where are they?

他们觉得政府需要介入。

Like, the government needs to be get involved.

必须有人去找他们。

Somebody needs to go looking for them.

所以最终，在2月底，一支搜救队出发去寻找这些徒步者。

And so eventually, at the end of February, a search party is launched for these hikers.

起初，只有几个志愿者。

And at first, was just a couple of volunteers.

是来自一所大学的一些学生。

It was some students from a university.

其实那次搜索规模并不大。

It was it was not that serious of a search.

但后来他们找到了他们的营地，还拍了照片。

But they eventually come across their campsite, and pictures are taken of their campsite.

从策略上讲，虽然我不敢自称登山专家，但如果你要在像乌拉尔山脉这样恶劣的环境中搭帐篷，最差的位置就是那种没有树木、风很大的山坡上，因为那里风会一直吹个不停。

So from a strategic perspective, not that I claim to be a mountaineer, but if you were gonna be setting up a place to if you were gonna set your tent up in a really rugged environment like the Ural Mountains, the worst place to put your tent is the side of a windswept mountain where there are no trees because you'll get no it'll be relentless wind.

那里的天气会更糟糕。

Any weather's gonna be worse up there.

你在斜坡上，还有雪崩的风险。

You're on a slope, avalanche risk.

我的意思是，最差的地方就是把帐篷搭在山坡上。

I mean, the worst place you could put your your tent is the side of a mountain.

所以他们寻找这些失踪的、最优秀的徒步者，结果找到了他们的帐篷，一个帆布帐篷。

And so they're looking for these missing hikers who were the best hikers, and they find their tent, their one canvas tent.

它正好位于这个山口中间，我记得叫迪亚特洛夫山口，这也是这个谜团被称为迪亚特洛夫事件的原因。

It's right in the middle of this this pass called the I believe it's called the Dyatlov Pass, which is why the the mystery has been named the Dyatlov Pass.

就孤零零一顶帐篷，周围连棵树都没有，什么都没有。

It's just one lone tent, and there's no trees, nothing.

然后他们就走到帐篷跟前。

It's just and so they go up to the tent.

徒步者不在那儿，但帐篷塌了，就像你在照片里看到的那样。

The hikers are not there, but the tent is collapsed as you see in the picture there.

他们往帐篷里一看，里面有保暖衣物、锅，还有很多他们本来以为会带出去的装备，都还在帐篷里。

And they look inside the tent, and there's clothes like cold weather gear, there's pots, and there's a lot of equipment that you would imagine they would have brought with them out here still in the tent.

那些徒步者不见了。

The hikers are missing.

通过一些检测，他们发现帐篷上有个切口，而且显然是从里面往外割的。

And they discover through whatever testing they did that there was a cut made in the tent that apparently was made from the inside out.

有人拿刀，我觉得是刀，从里面把帐篷割开了。

Someone took a knife, and I believe it was a knife, and cut the tent open from the inside out.

他们带着这么多装备，心想我们这是在乌拉尔山脉的深处啊。

And so they have all this equipment, and they're thinking this is we're in the middle of the Ural Mountains.

这里气温大概有零下四十华氏度。

It's like negative 40 degrees Fahrenheit out here.

现在正是隆冬时节。

It's it's the middle of winter.

这些装备是生存必需的。

You need this equipment to survive.

那些徒步者去哪儿了？

Where are the hikers?

他们把装备都留在了帐篷里。

They left all their equipment in their tent.

他们人在哪里？

Where are they?

于是搜索范围一下子扩大了很多，因为现在这些志愿者发现了这个惊人的现场。

And so the search expanded exponentially at that point because now these these volunteers have discovered this incredible site.

他们找不到那些徒步者。

They can't find the hikers.

更大的搜救队到了那里，他们发现离帐篷被发现的地方大约一百英尺远有脚印。

A bigger search party comes out there, and they discover footprints that are about a 100 feet away from where the tent was found.

那些脚印在山的更下面一点。

It's a little bit further down the mountain.

那些脚印中，有些是两只靴子，你知道的，就是一个人走路时配套的靴子印。

And the footsteps, some of them are two boots, you know, matching boots of someone's steps.

有八九个脚印。

There's eight or nine prints.

我不能确定。

I couldn't be sure.

八九组脚印。

Eight or nine sets of prints.

有些只有一只靴子，就像光着脚和一只靴子。

Some have only one boot on, like barefoot and a boot.

其他的就是光着脚的。

Others are just barefoot.

而且别忘了，这可是俄罗斯的隆冬时节。

And remember, this is the middle of winter in Russia.

但他们看着这些脚印，再看看帐篷，帐篷是从里面被割开的。

But they're looking at these prints, and if you look at the tent, it's been cut from the inside.

他们显然是弃帐篷而去了。

They've clearly abandoned their tent.

肯定是出了什么事。

Something's happened.

但脚印的节奏，从帐篷附近发现的地方开始，一路往山下走，远离营地，他们是在走。

But the the cadence of the footprints as it as it picks up where they found it near the tent going down the mountain away from the the campsite, they're walking.

看不出有任何慌张。

There's no sense of urgency.

有人分析过这些脚印，他们就是在走。

Someone analyzed the footprints, and they're walking.

所以他们就这样走下山，有的没穿靴子，有的只穿一只靴子，大部分装备都丢下了。

So they're walking down the mountain, some without boots on, some with one boot on, leaving most of their equipment behind.

于是，搜救队就沿着这些脚印一直走到了那片看起来有点阴森的森林边缘。

And so these the search party, they follow these prints down to the edge of this this ominous looking forest.

那边森林其实也没几片。

There's only so many forests out there.

这就是其中一片。

This is one of them.

这片森林不算大，但挺密的。

This relatively small, but fairly dense forest.

脚印到了森林边缘就差不多没了。

And the prints sort of stop right there at the edge of the forest.

所以他们就走进了树林里。

And so they go into the trees.

他们四处找，最后发现了一棵大杉树。

They're looking around, and they eventually come across this big cedar tree.

杉树底下有一堆烧得差不多的小火堆，火很小，然后蜷缩在火堆旁边的，就是其中一位已经去世的徒步者。

And at the base of the cedar tree is this little burned out fire, like a puny little fire, and then crouched around it is one of the the hikers who's deceased.

而且我觉得那里有一张照片。

And there I believe there's a picture.

我不知道你能不能在你的频道上展示它。

I don't if you can show it on your channel.

当然可以。

But Sure.

对。

Yeah.

所以有一张照片，其中一个徒步者几乎像是在试图靠近火堆取暖。

So there's a picture of one of the hikers who is sort of almost like he was trying to get warmth against this fire.

我觉得不是那张。

I don't think it's that one.

雪松树附近有一些。

There are some right near the cedar tree.

我相信你能找到它们。

I'm sure you can find them.

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Here's a fun fact.

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Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight.

这难道不令人惊讶，同时又有点显而易见吗？

Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time?

那为什么大多数狗主人仍然用模糊的勺子喂超加工狗粮呢？

So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners?

其实有健康的替代品，相信我，我知道。

Healthy alternatives exist, and trust me, I know.

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I buy one, The Farmer's Dog.

我给我的两只狗都用这个。

I use it for both my dogs.

它们很喜欢。

They love it.

它们很快就吃完了。

They eat it up quick.

它们觉得闻起来很香。

It smells good to them.

我也觉得闻起来很香。

It smells good to me.

这是人类级别的食物。

It's human grade food.

The Farmer's Dog 为狗狗制作新鲜食物，我的狗狗们都很喜欢。

The Farmer's Dog makes fresh food for dogs, and my dogs love it.

他们的食谱采用真正的肉类和新鲜蔬菜，经过温和烹饪，保留关键营养。

Their recipes are made with real meat and fresh vegetables that are gently cooked to retain vital nutrients.

他们还会根据狗狗的营养需求分配餐食，这有助于避免过度喂食，让体重管理更轻松。

They also portion out the meals to your dog's nutritional needs, which helps avoid overfeeding and makes weight management easier.

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And isn't getting more time with our four legged best friends something every dog owner wants?

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The answer to that is yes, obviously.

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这个优惠只针对新客户。

This offer is for new customers only.

一个人已经死了，然后另一个人也在附近。

One is dead, and then another one is is sort of nearby as well.

所以有两名徒步者都死了，最初认为是暴露在寒冷中导致的体温过低。

So there's two hikers that are both deceased from the initial thought as exposure, hypothermia exposure.

但关键是，这件事有几个非常奇怪的地方。

But critically, there's a couple really weird things about it.

对，我觉得那张照片肯定就是那个。

One, yeah, I think that's that's gotta be the picture right there.

照片里看不到尸体，但尸体就在附近。

And that does not show the bodies, but the bodies are are are near.

我觉得右边那个就是。

I think that's one right there to the right of that.

那可能是其中一个。

That could be one of them.

想象一下，两具尸体散落在附近。

But picture two bodies sort of laying scattered nearby.

嗯。

Mhmm.

他们看了看火堆底部的那棵树，发现上面有东西试图爬上去的痕迹。

They look at the tree that was at the base of the where the the fire was, and there are there are signs that something was trying to climb the tree.

树上有断掉的树枝之类的，而且还有人体组织，听起来比实际情况严重得多，但树上挺高的位置确实有人体组织，说明有人爬上去过。

There's broken branches and the like, and there's human tissue that sounds way more extreme than it's supposed to, but there's human tissue far pretty high up this tree that suggests somebody had climbed up the tree.

然后他们检查了尸体，发现其中一个人的手，他咬掉了自己的一部分手，卡在喉咙里，或者也可能只是人体组织，但很明显在他嘴里，就像他在吃自己的肉，或者至少是到了他嘴里。

And then they examined the bodies, and they found one of the one of the men had his hand, part of his hand he had bitten off and was in his throat, or it might have just been human tissue as well, but it was clearly in his mouth, like he was eating his own flesh, or at least arrived in his mouth.

所以他们都死了。

So they're dead.

于是搜索范围扩大到这片森林里，他们又发现了三个徒步者，离那棵树大概一百到两百英尺远。

And so the search expands within this this forest, and they find three more hikers sort of about a 100 or 200 feet away from from this tree.

他们的状况也差不多。

They're in similar condition.

他们都死了。

They they've they're all deceased.

他们看起来都很狼狈。

They're all sort of ragged.

有些人身上只穿着一点点衣服。

They some of them are only wearing, you know, a little bit of clothing.

他们都死了，但剩下的四个徒步者还没找到。

They're all dead, but they can't find the remaining four hikers.

他们接下来几天继续搜索，但天气非常恶劣。

They continue to search for the next several days, but the the weather was pretty severe.

所以最终他们决定，到这个时候，这已经变成搜救任务了。

And so ultimately, they decided that at this point, it's a recovery mission.

我们找不到他们了。

We're not we're not gonna find them.

他们肯定已经死了。

They're gonna be they're gonna be dead.

所以他们一直等到五月冰雪融化。

So they waited until the thaw in May.

等雪稍微融化了一些，他们回到那里，发现了一个看起来像是雪堡的东西，离那棵雪松大概三四百英尺远，冬天的时候根本看不到。

And once the snow had thawed a bit, they came out there, and they found this what looked to be like the they believed that a snow fort had been made maybe three or 400 feet away from that cedar tree, which they wouldn't have seen it during the winter.

几乎看不见，你根本不会注意到它。

It was barely you wouldn't have seen it.

但雪已经融化得差不多了，剩下的尸体是在雪洞的残骸里找到的。

But it had melted down enough, and the the rest of the bodies were found in the remnants of the snow cave.

那四个徒步者伤势非常严重。

And the four hikers that were in there just had catastrophic injuries.

他们都死了。

They're all deceased.

其中一个人有挤压伤。

Woman or one of them had a crush injury.

他的胸部受伤，医生形容就像被高速行驶的汽车撞了一样。

His chest was they compared the injury to his chest equivalent to being struck by a car at at high speed.

但他身上没有或只有很少的撕裂伤。

However, he had no or limited lacerations.

也就是说，他的身体没有受到撞击。

Like, there was no impact to his body.

他的胸部就是莫名其妙地塌陷了。

His chest was sort of just inexplicably caved in.

所以他被压碎了。

And so he he's been crushed.

有个人，我记得他的头骨骨折了，还缺了一块。

One guy, I think his skull was fractured and a piece of his skull was missing.

但最引人注意的是一个女徒步者，她的嘴唇和眼睛都不见了。

But the one that stands out is there was one hiker, a woman, who her lips and her eyes were missing.

有些说法称，她的嘴唇像是被手术切除的。

And some accounts claim that the lips appeared to have been surgically removed.

至少那里有很整齐的切口，如果是动物捕食造成的，你会看到撕裂的痕迹。

At least there like very tight lines of how her it was predation, animal predation, you'd see tearing.

对。

Right.

她的嘴唇被移除的地方，切口相对笔直。

This was like relatively straight lines where her lips were removed.

还有另一个徒步者，他的眼睛也不见了。

And then another hiker, his eyes were also missing.

所以他们都死了。

And so they're all dead.

他们还注意到，那个女的穿着男装，或者有些衣服明显不是她的，然后其中一个男的，或者几个男的，穿着她的一些衣服。

And they also noticed that the the woman was wearing men's clothing or part some clothing that was clearly not hers, like and then one of the men or a couple of the men were wearing some of her clothing.

就好像他们交换了衣服，而且他们在一些衣服上发现了微量的辐射，虽然量很小，但确实有，然后他们都死了。

Like, they had exchanged clothing, and they found trace levels, albeit small, but trace levels of radiation on some of the clothing, and they're all dead.

所以现在所有徒步者都被找到了。

And so now all the hikers have been found.

到这个时候，应该是1960年5月，我记得是这个时候。

And by this point, this is in May 1960, I believe it is at this point.

这在俄罗斯是个大新闻。

This is a huge story in Russia.

这相当于今天超级火爆的新闻。

This is equivalent to being super viral today.

每个人都在谈论这件事。

Everybody was talking about it.

家属们对此非常不满。

The families are very outspoken about it.

大家都想要一个答案。

People want answers.

他们想知道到底发生了什么。

They wanna know what happened.

于是俄罗斯政府就展开了调查，想弄清楚迪亚特洛夫山口到底出了什么事。

And so the Russian government, they they launched this investigation into what happened out there in the Dyatlov Pass.

但很快，他们就叫停了这项调查。

And quickly, they shut down this investigation.

真的，特别快就停了。

Like, very quickly, they shut it down.

大家听到的只有一些说法，说有不少军人和一些平民，当时在乌拉尔地区那一带，声称看到了发光的球体，像火球一样。

And all the only things people heard were there were numerous reports from military personnel and some civilians who apparently were in the area, in the Urals, that claimed to have seen glowing orbs like fireballs.

我记得他们描述说，那些火球和光球上下乱窜。

I think they described them as being balls of fire and light shooting up and down.

很难说是不是在那些徒步者所在的地方，但确实有很多独立的报告说在乌拉尔山脉上空看到了奇怪的光，这些报告可能和那些徒步者死亡的时间吻合。

It's hard to tell if it was in the same area where the hikers were, but there were all these independent reports of strange lights over the Ural Mountains that could corroborate or could line up with when those hikers all died.

然后最后，俄罗斯政府出来说，他们已经确定那九名徒步者死于一种压倒性的力量，或者他们称之为一种不可抗拒的力量，然后就结案了。

And then also lastly, the the Russian government came out and said, well, we've we've determined that the nine hikers died from an overwhelming or I think they called it a compelling force, and then they closed it.

他们，我相信他们把这件事完全保密了。

They they I believe they made it completely confidential.

不。

No.

家属们没有接触到这些信息。

The families didn't get access to it.

这件事完全被封锁了。

It's completely shut down.

然后在2020年，我之所以讲这个故事，是因为它又开始流传了，因为我相信有些照片被涂掉了，但你能看到这些照片。

And then in 2020, the reason I told it is because it sort of began making rounds because I believe some of the pictures had been redacted, and you could see these pictures.

所以我在视频开头说，在这六十秒的片段结束时，你会去谷歌搜索两个词，那就是迪亚特洛夫山口。

And so I said at the start of my video, at the end of this sixty second clip, you're gonna Google two words, and it was Dyatlov Pass.

所以我就吊了一下胃口，说你们自己去搜吧，结果发现里面全是各种疯狂的东西。

And so I teased the story and said, Google it for yourself, and it's a whole rabbit hole of crazy stuff.

这故事真够疯狂的。

That's a crazy story.

所以用“压倒性力量”来形容一群人死亡，这说法也太奇怪了。

So compelling force is a very weird way to describe a bunch of people dying.

压倒性力量？

Compelling force?

可能说的是“压倒性的自然力量”，不过，嗯，那听起来更合理。

It might have been compelling natural force, but I I I Well, that makes more sense.

你是冻死的。

You froze

冻死的。

to death.

其实他们本来可以直接这么说的。

Well, the the thing they could have come out and said that.

对。

Right.

他们基本上就是说，是的。

They they basically said Yep.

你确定不是

Are you sure it's not

翻译的问题吗？

a translation issue?

关于这个说法有好几种翻译，但归根结底就是某种强大的、压倒性的力量。

There are several translations of how it came out, and it effectively amounts to some sort of compelling overwhelming force.

是不是

Did does

俄罗斯在尸检报告里区分死因的方式，可能跟我们不一样？

Russia have a different way of distinguishing how people die in autopsy autopsy reports than we do maybe?

说实话，我也不太确定。

I'm not sure, to be honest.

我不太确定那怎么

I'm not sure how that

可能跟俄语的表达方式有关，他们描述事情的方式不一样。

It might be like the way Russian language works and where they describe things.

比如说，他们可能有死亡分类，而所谓的强大自然力量可能只是意味着，可能没什么特别的。

Like, they might have categories for deaths, and a compelling natural force might just mean, like It could be nothing.

死亡就是

To death is

在

in the

和死在莫哈韦沙漠里是同一类。

same category as, like, dying in the Mojave Desert.

我觉得我一直认为，可能发生的就是一些合理的事情。

I think that that's that's I've always assumed that probably what happened is something rational happened.

我的意思是，当你体温过低时，可能会出现所谓的反常脱衣现象，就是在你极度寒冷的时候，反而会感到热，然后脱掉衣服。

I mean, when you become hypothermic, you can have, it's called paradoxical undressing, where at your final stage of when you're so cold, actually get hot and you take your clothes off.

而且我想，如果你处于濒死阶段，可能会做出一些奇怪的事情。

And I would imagine if you're in the final stages of dying, you might do some funny things.

而且，会不会

And also Would

但你会把自己的嘴唇割掉吗？

you cut your lips off, though?

你会不会动手术把自己的嘴唇切掉？

Would you surgically remove your lips?

我不知道。

I don't know.

嘴唇是……

Are the lips?

但接下来问题就是，有没有相关的图片？

But I then then the question is, like, is there an image of that?

比如，我们能看到吗？

Like, can we see it?

比如说，人们一提到麦田怪圈或者，抱歉，牲畜肢解事件时，总是会聊到的一个话题。

Like, is one of the things that people talk about all the time when it comes to crop circles or, excuse me, cattle mutilation.

我把这些都归为一类。

I put them all in the same category.

就像，鬼知道那是什么玩意儿？

Like, who the fuck knows what that is?

但牲畜肢解事件，其中一个奇怪的地方，就是人们把它跟外星人或者别的什么联系起来，是因为那些切口非常精准，像是外科手术一样。

But cattle mutilation, one of the weird things that that's that they associate with extraterrestrials or whatever they think it is is that these cuts are very surgical.

对。

Yeah.

而且不是动物随便撕咬牛的那种，那些切口看起来像是用手术刀或者某种激光弄出来的。

And it's not an animal just tearing apart a cow, that these these cuts, they look like they're made with a scalpel or perhaps some sort of a laser.

而且，这些动物体内的血都被完全抽干了。

And, also, these creatures are completely drained of blood.

所以我想，我见过那些牲畜肢解的照片，你会觉得，哇。

So I'd like I wouldn't I've I've seen the cattle mutilation images, and you're like, wow.

这确实很奇怪。

That is strange.

我想看看他们的嘴唇长什么样。

I'd like to see what their lips look like.

我确实知道一些情况，而且这跟我发过帖子没关系，因为迪亚特洛夫事件经常被人提起。

They I do know that actually and it has nothing to do with the fact that I posted about it because the Dyatlov pass gets posted about quite a bit.

但我觉得是在2022年，俄罗斯确实重新调查了迪亚特洛夫山口之谜，然后基本上说，好吧。

But I think it was in 2022, Russia actually reexamined the Dyatlov Pass mystery now and and sort of said, okay.

我们要重新审视一下。

We're gonna look at it again.

他们最终认定是雪崩，就像一块冰板断裂了，一块巨大的冰板。

And they determined that an avalanche, like a slab of ice broke loose, a huge slab.

我可能完全记错了。

I could this could be totally wrong.

我知道他们基本上说是雪崩或者冰板导致了这一切，导致他们暴露在外，出现体温过低等等。

I know it's an avalanche or a slab of ice that they basically said was responsible for all of this, that it led to them somehow becoming exposed, hypothermia and the like.

但这并没有真正解答我心中的很多疑问。

But it doesn't really answer a lot of the questions in my mind.

当然，这种情况是有可能发生的。

It certainly could have happened.

我跟你说过，他们不管怎样，是不是在斜坡背风面的中间停了下来？

As I told you, they they for whatever also, did they stop in the middle of the the windslept side of the slope?

我是说，你

I mean, you're

他们可能是在试图穿过，但没能成功。

They probably were trying to make their way across, and they couldn't do it.

然后他们说必须停下来，就停在这里。

And then they said we have to stop, but just stop right here.

我再也走不动了。

I can't go any further.

他们争论了一番，然后决定就地搭帐篷。

And they all argued, and then they decided to put a tent right there.

而且，我是说，你比任何人都清楚这一点。

It's it's also I mean, you know this better than anybody.

人一累，就容易做出错误的决定。

When you get tired, you make poor decisions.

他们就是想用这个来对付你。

That's what they're trying to do to you in buds.

对吧？

Right?

他们就是想让你放弃。

They're trying to make you quit.

他们想把你击垮。

They're trying to break you down.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Yeah.

人一累，就会变得很不理智，而且处理信息的能力也会大大下降。

When people get tired, they get very irrational, and they also have very little processing power.

他们不会去想各种可能性，什么可能会出错，什么可能会顺利，只会觉得自己根本撑不下去了。

They don't think about all the possibilities, what could go wrong, what could go right, and they think they can't possibly keep going.

问题是，如果你们有九个人，而其中有一个是软蛋，那可就麻烦了。

And the problem is if you have nine of you and one of you is an is a pussy, you know, you got a real problem.

比如说，你是让鲍勃去死，还是明明能继续走却留下来陪他？

Like, do you let Bob die, or do you stay here with Bob when you can keep going?

而鲍勃只会说，我们做不到。

And Bob is just like, we can't do this.

就像，鲍勃。

Like, Bob.

这就像恐怖片里的场景。

Like, that's the horror movie scene.

对吧？

Right?

总是会有这么个鲍勃吗？

There's always this Bob?

就他妈这么一个人。

One fucking guy.

他就说，去他妈的，老子不干了。

He's like, fuck this, man.

老子就他妈待这儿了。

I'm fucking staying right here.

天哪，鲍勃。

Like, jeez, Bob.

我们还能继续走啊。

We can keep walking.

继续走。

Keep walking.

就是走十步，再数十步，然后一直这样走下去。

That that reality steps and then count 10 steps more, and then just keep doing that.

你描述的这种东西其实是人类很自然的一种反应，就是当团队里最弱的那个人在挣扎的时候。

That what you're describing is such a natural human thing, which is when someone when the lowest common denominator in your group is struggling.

即使你感到沮丧，很多时候人们还是会倾向于降低自己的标准去帮助那个人。

Even if you're frustrated, a lot of times, people have an inclination to to lowering what you're doing to to to help that person.

在海豹突击队的训练中，一开始就明确了一点，这在某种程度上是高尚的。

In in SEAL training, I mean, what's made clear immediately is to some degree, that's noble to some degree.

但很多时候，这样做反而会让更多人送命。

But a lot of times, you're gonna get more people killed that way.

所以那些在训练中拖后腿的人，必须被识别出来，然后立刻淘汰掉。

So those people that are gonna hold you back in training have to be identified and kicked out now.

对。

Right.

所以很明显，如果你是最弱的一环，在训练中你很可能就会被落下。

And so it it became clear that if you're the weakest link, you're probably getting left behind in training.

不。

No.

但在现实生活中，情况正好相反。

But then in real life, it's the reverse.

BUD/S 是个绝妙的方法，能把那些软弱的人筛选掉。

Buds is a genius way of filtering out the pussies.

这太聪明了。

It's genius.

这是最好的方法。

It's it's the best way.

你必须得这么做——没有其他办法能判断一个人能否承受极端的压力和紧张，除非真的让他们经历这些。

You have to there's no there's no other way to determine whether or not someone will be able to handle extreme pressure and stress other than putting them through extreme pressure and stress.

而且有些人，不管出于什么原因，在他们人生的这个阶段，就是承受不了。

And there's some people through whatever for whatever reason at this stage of their life, they can't handle it.

也许将来他们能行。

And maybe they will be in the future.

也许这次经历对他们来说不是好事，但他们以后会变得更坚强。

Maybe this isn't gonna be a good experience for them, and they're gonna toughen up.

你看。

And look.

戈金斯经常提到，在他加入海豹突击队之前，他体重三百磅，整天喝奶昔。

Goggins talks about it all the time about when before he ever got into the SEALs, he was three hundred pounds and eating milkshakes.

他当时很胖。

He was fat.

他连绕着街区跑都跑不了，但他下定决心，对，

He couldn't run around the block, but he decided Yeah.

要变成一个不一样的人，而且他做到了。

To become a different person, and he did it.

你也可以做到，但在那一刻，你会放弃。

You can do that, but at that moment, you're gonna quit.

对。

Yeah.

所以在那时，我们不得不淘汰你，也许将来你能成为一个不放弃的人，但现在，你正在放弃。

And so at that moment, we have to get rid of you, and maybe you can become someone in the future that won't quit, but right now, you're quitting.

对。

Yeah.

我我我有时候会被问到，虽然不常，但确实有人问过，你知道，在你参加选拔的时候，有没有那么一刻你想到过放弃，或者你压制住了这种念头？

I I I sometimes get asked, not often, but I've been asked, you know, when you were going through selection, did you ever have a moment where you thought or you thought about quitting and and you suppressed it?

我之所以这么说，是因为我知道和我一起训练过的很多人都经历过这种想法。

And I only say this because I know this is this is shared amongst a lot of people that I went through training with.

我没有。

I didn't.

我从来没有过那种时刻，想着，天哪，我快要放弃了。

I did not have a moment where I thought, oh boy, I'm on the precipice of quitting.

我得坚持住。

I better hold on.

我有没有过怀疑自己人生选择的时刻，怀疑自己到底能不能做到？

Did I have moments where I was questioning my life decisions and questioning, can I even do this?

当然有。

Definitely.

但尝试后失败和选择放弃，这两者有着本质的区别。

But there's something fundamentally different about trying and failing and choosing to stop.

你会发现，我认为这种坚持的能力是天生的。

And you learn that that is something that I believe is innate.

你有没有在失败中继续前进的能力？

Do you have the ability to keep going through failure?

他们在训练中设置了很多考验，基本上就是为了逼出这一点，对吧。

And they put a lot of test gates into buds to basically force it upon Right.

最著名的就是地狱周了。

Most notably, the not even Hell Week.

地狱周是最有名的耐力测试，基本上你要连续保持清醒五天半。

Hell Week is the most well known test of endurance, where you're awake for five and a half days, basically.

但还有一个更简单的测试，只要你愿意做，就非常容易。

But there's one that's even simpler, that it's it's it's so easy if you're willing to do it.

容易到可以轻松完成。

Easy to stretch.

其实没那么难，但你得真的下定决心去做。

It's not that hard, but you really need to be committed to doing it.

就是那个50米水下游泳。

And it's the 50 meter underwater swim.

训练第一阶段第二天就要做，而且大家都知道你肯定会做。

You do it day two of the first phase of training, and everybody knows you're gonna do it.

你只需要，好，跳进泳池，游一个来回，中途不浮出水面，直到游完。

All you have to do is, okay, get in the pool, swim one length, and then swim back without surfacing until you're done.

对游泳还不错的人来说，这大概刚好超出舒适区，但你有充足的时间准备。

It is probably just beyond what's comfortable for someone who's a a a decent enough swimmer, but you have plenty of lead time for this.

你知道这事肯定会来。

You know this is gonna happen.

很多人去之前会训练好几年。

People will train for years before they go.

我当年做的时候，第一段游得挺紧张的。

When you when I did it, the first leg, it's stressful.

但一旦你转身往回游，你就会发现，如果你下定决心要完成它，你会觉得，哇，这真的没那么难。

But as soon as you've made the turn and you're on your way back, you realize that if you've committed to doing it, you're like, oh, dude, this is this is really not bad.

很快就结束了。

It's so quick.

距离很短。

It's so short.

一下子就全完了。

It's all it's all over.

那些会在中途放弃的人，并不是在50米游完时放弃的。

People that would quit on that didn't quit at the end of the '50.

他们是在第一段就放弃了。

They quit on the first leg.

你的身体还没到极限，但你的心理已经先垮了。

You're not physically done yet, but you're mentally done.

当然，我这是泛泛而谈。

I mean, I'm generalizing.

但如果你在训练中经常看到这种现象，那就是你准备好继续面对逆境了吗，还是你只会说这太难了，我不想再做了？

But if you see that that type of phenomenon in training quite a bit where it's, are you prepared to keep going through adversity, or are you just gonna say it's too much and I don't wanna do it anymore?

我在想，他们有没有坐下来尝试设计一个项目来改变人们的心理。

I wonder if they've ever sat down and tried to engineer a program to alter people's psychology.

你知道，你会想，能想办法度过非常困难时刻的人越多，那种你的大脑想放弃、身体也想放弃的时刻，能训练到那种状态的人越多，就越好。

You know, you would think that the more people that you could get that would be able to figure out a way through something very difficult where you your mind wants to quit, your body wants to quit, the more people that you could figure out how to train to that position, the better.

还是说，就像我有一些MMA教练朋友，他们不想和任何需要心理教练的人合作。

Or is it like I have friends that are MMA coaches that don't wanna work with anybody who needs a mental coach.

有意思。

Interesting.

他们会说，你需要心理教练。

They're like, you need a mental coach.

你入错行了。

You're in the wrong business.

他们就是这么说的。

And they they say that.

就是说，那两个人太不靠谱了。

Like, those two good those guys are too unreliable.

他们会直接告诉你。

They'll tell it to you.

比如，你需要一个心理教练。

Like, you need a mental coach.

比如，你想太多了。

Like, you're too in your own head.

你没法发挥出水平。

You're not gonna be able to perform.

对。

Yep.

这些人输了之后能爬起来，自己琢磨明白，再回来。对。

These guys are gonna be able to lose, dust themselves off, figure it out, and come back Yep.

而且变得更强。

And be stronger.

然后还有一些人，每次遇到大场面，压力就会把他们压垮，他们就是顶不住那种压力。

And then there's some guys that, like, every big moment is the moment overwhelms them, and they're they're just they just cave to the pressure.

他们就是承受不了。

They just can't handle it.

然后他们去接受某种心理辅导，但本质上，他们的性格，不管是什么让他们成为他们自己，就是很脆弱，不管是什么原因。

And then they go through some sort of mental coaching session and that but the core, their personality, whatever it is that that's about them, what makes them them, is just fragile for whatever reason.

问题是，我在想，他们有没有试过设计一个项目来强化人的心理，就像通过举重或跑步来强化身体一样。

And the the question is, I wonder if they've ever tried to engineer a program to strengthen people's psychology just the same way you can strengthen people by lifting weights or by running or whatever.

我在想，有没有一种，比如，大家齐心协力地说，好吧，我们有这么多人崩溃。

I wonder if there's a like, there was a concerted effort to say, like, well, we have so many people crashing out.

如果我们能让崩溃的人数减少50%呢？

What if we had 50% less people crashing out?

那我们就会有50%更多的精英操作员。

Then we'd have 50% more elite operators.

我知道我训练的时候，我不知道现在是不是还是这样，但我在2011年和2012年认真参加海豹突击队训练，当时有心理医生在队里，但你绝对不会经常去找他们，绝对不可能。

I know that when I went through training, and I I have no idea if it's still the case now, but I was in I was in SEAL training in earnest in 2011 and 2012, and there were psychologists on on staff that you didn't you did not go and frequently see them by any stretch.

但我记得训练中有一些部分挺有意思的，因为它们给残酷的训练增添了一些调剂。

But I remember there being parts of training, which were sort of funny because they punctuated the brutality of training.

比如我们会出去，你知道的，先跑一个小时的障碍训练，然后再跑四英里，接着游泳，再做这个那个，被折腾得够呛，然后他们就说，好了。

It would be we'd be out, you know, doing the obstacle course for an hour, and then we're doing a four mile run, then we're swimming, then we're doing this, we're getting beat up, and then they're like, alright.

现在进教室。

Now go in the classroom.

你走进教室，跟一位女心理学家聊天，她教你一种叫“兴奋控制”的技巧。

Like, you go in the classroom, and you're and you're talking to this woman who's a psychologist, and she's teaching you how to, like it's called arousal control.

你知道吗？

You know?

就是

How

教你在高度紧张的时刻如何平复自己的心理状态，而且所有的教官都在旁边

to how to take down your your mental state in the middle of high stress moments, and all the instructors are on the

看着说，你最好认真听。

side like, you better listen to this.

你知道吗？

You know?

而且这真的挺搞笑的。

And it's it's just funny.

所以确实有人尝试过，但就我自己经历过来说，训练中成功的人五花八门，我见过也听过很多，很难说有什么明确的指标能预示你会成功。

So there was attempts made, but I I coming from coming from having done it, the the there's such a wide variety of people that are successful in training that I have seen and heard that it's hard to pinpoint what is the appropriate indication you're going to be successful.

他们想找的就是，哪些人群通常在海豹突击队训练中表现得好。

That's the thing they're trying to identify is what are the pools of people that traditionally do well in SEAL training?

因为他们想找出办法来加强这一点。

Because they're they're trying to figure out ways to strengthen.

但他们发现了两点，有两个地方的人在训练中表现最坚韧，成功率最高，一个是摔跤，基本上是摔跤的水平。

But the two things they found, there's two there's two places where the most mentally tough people in terms of success in SEAL training, one is wrestling, Basically, level of wrestling.

摔跤手在BUDS训练中的成功率非常高，还有水球。

Wrestlers have an incredibly high success rate in BUDS and water polo.

这两个是他们通过研究确定的，在海豹突击队训练中最坚韧、最有韧性的群体。

Those are the two that they have determined through their studies are the grittiest, most resilient folks when it comes to SEAL training.

有意思。

Interesting.

对。

Yeah.

水球。

Water polo.

那水球比赛的水有多深？

So in water polo, how deep is the water?

我觉得主要是因为他们全程都在踩水。

I think it's more that they tread water the whole fucking time.

对。

Yeah.

我就是这个意思。

That's what I'm getting at.

比如说，水是不是深到他们脚都碰不到底？

Like, does the water so deep that they can't touch the ground?

不是。

No.

不是。

No.

你全程都在踩水。

You're treading the entire time.

哇。

Woah.

比赛的时候也是？

When you're playing a game.

哥们，有个人，那太疯狂了。

Dude, there was a guy That's crazy.

我班上有个人，所以是这样的，你有那些入伍的士兵，你知道，一个班里有上百个入伍的哥们。

There was a guy in my class so the the way it works is you have your enlisted guys, and there's, you know, upwards of a 100 dudes in a class that are enlisted.

然后你还有，我想，大概八到十个是军官候补生。

And then you have, I think, maybe eight to 10 that are officer candidates.

对，是的。

It's yeah.

我们都是海豹突击队的候选人。

We're all SEAL candidates.

没错。

That's true.

但军官候选人和士兵候选人之间的差别可大了。

But the difference between an officer candidate and an enlisted swine candidate is enormous.

这边的士兵候选人，就是那种特别朴实的人，就是那种“我无所谓”的态度。

The guys over here, the enlisted guys, are just like salt of the earth, just like, I don't give a fuck.

我们走着瞧吧。

We're gonna see what happens.

军官候选人呢，他们的简历在二十岁出头这个年纪算是相当亮眼了。

The officer candidates, they have some of the most impressive resumes that you can have as, like, a 20 year old kid.

比如，有罗德学者这种背景的人。

Root you have dudes that are I was a Rhodes scholar.

我踢过球，也直接加入了斯坦福橄榄球队。

I played I walked onto the Stanford football team.

就是那种级别的声望。

Like, that level of prestige.

而且，我家里人和乔治·布什是朋友，我还是世界级的游泳选手，同时也是神枪手。

And, also, I'm my family's friends with George Bush, and and I'm also, like, a world class swimmer, and I'm, an expert marks man.

这些人就是成为军官候选人的那批人，因为每年这些名额都非常少。

Those are the dudes that become your officer candidates because there's so few slots on any given year for these spots.

他们经过层层筛选，基本上所有人都能成功。

They're they're they're so vetted that virtually all of them succeed.

军官候选人没通过的情况非常罕见。

It's so rare that an officer candidate does not pass.

比如，一个在BUDS的军官，那时候你几乎可以直接叫他海豹突击队员了，因为海豹的筛选非常严格。

Like, an officer who's in BUDS, you might as well just call him a SEAL at that point because he's the vetting is crazy for SEAL.

但士兵那边就不一样了。

Not on the enlisted side.

我们还在摸索这个。

We're still figuring that out.

但军官那边，筛选非常严格。

But the officer side, they're highly vetted.

我参加的一个班里，有个军官是田纳西大学的水球运动员，他长得又高又壮。

And one of the guys that was one of my officers in one of the classes I was in was a water polo water polo player from the University of Tennessee, and he's this big, big, strong guy.

他这人特别棒。

He's an awesome dude.

训练进行到一半的时候，有个环节。

And there's this part of training halfway through training.

那是第二阶段。

It's second phase.

整个训练分三个阶段，第二阶段是水上训练。

It's broken into three phases, and it's the water phase.

而且从数据上看，能进入第二阶段的人，大部分都能顺利通过。

And it's it's really statistically, everybody who gets to second phase mostly makes it through.

但这是因为你在第一阶段已经通过了那么多测试关卡，比如地狱周和50米水下游泳，所以这些人本来就是那种会硬扛着痛苦、坚持到底的人。

But it's because you've already passed through so many test gates in first phase, like hell week and the 50 meter underwater swim that this is already the pool of people that's just gonna push through the misery and pass stuff.

所以这个数据有误导性。

So it's misleading.

我觉得训练的第二阶段，难度比第一阶段要大得多。

The second phase of training, I would argue, is exponentially more challenging than first phase.

但能进入第二阶段的，都是通过第一阶段的人。

But the only people who do it are through first phase.

所以虽然百分之九十的人能通过第二阶段，但真的很难。

And so, ninety percent of people pass second phase, but it's really hard.

而且第二阶段里有两个测试特别出名，简直残酷得不行。

And there's two tests in particular within second phase that are notoriously just brutal.

其中一个叫“水中能力测试”，是一个二十分钟的考试，考你在水下修理潜水装备的能力，基本上就是背着氧气瓶潜到泳池底部。

One of them is called pool competency, which is a twenty minute exam of your ability to to fix problems with your scuba tanks underwater, where basically you go to the bottom of the pool with your tanks on.

考试一开始，你就在那个大泳池里一个叫“战斗训练池”的区域。

And when your test begins, you're in the you're in the section of this huge pool called the combat training tank.

这个区域大概有六英尺深，然后坡度向下延伸到九英尺深的地方，再往下就是十五英尺深的区域了。

It's a there's like the six foot section, then it slopes down to the nine foot section, and then it slopes down to the the 15 foot section.

你的测试就在九英尺深的区域进行，你就沿着泳道线爬行，就像在游来回一样。

And your test takes place in the nine foot section, and you just crawl along the lane marker as if you're doing lap swimming.

池底有一条泳道。

There's a lane on the bottom of the pool.

大概有八九条泳道线。

There's like eight or nine lane markers.

你只能在九英尺深的区域来回爬行，两名教官会下到水里，关掉你的供气，还在软管上打结。

And you crawl back and forth only in the nine foot section, And two instructors per student come down and turn your air off, tie knots in your hoses.

只要有人碰到你，你就得立刻蜷缩成胎儿姿势，等着那种‘攻击’结束。

And as soon as you're being touched, you gotta go into the fetal position and wait for, like, the attack to stop.

大概持续十几秒或者三十秒左右。

It takes, like, fifteen seconds, thirty seconds.

这时候你已经没气了。

You're out of air.

这是一项二十分钟的测试。

And this is a twenty minute test.

随着测试进行，你体内的二氧化碳会逐渐累积。

You're building up hypercapnia as you go.

然后你得解决各种问题，而且问题会越来越难。

And then you gotta fix your problems, and the problems get progressively harder to solve.

但他们教你的处理方法，对每个问题都是一样的。

But the procedures they teach you are the same procedures for every problem.

如果第一步不行，就试第二步。

If you go to step one, it doesn't work, you go to step two.

如果还不行，就继续第三步，直到把所有步骤都走完，但这能让你学会冷静。

If that doesn't work, you go to step three until you go all the way through your steps, but it teaches you calm.

所以即使你在第十八分钟要解决最后一个问题，快要晕过去了，你也得向他们展示你会一步步来，从第一步到最后一步。

So even though you're on the last problem you're gonna solve at minute eighteen and you're about to pass out, you have to show them that you'll do step one, step two, all the way through.

所以关键就是要保持冷静。

So it's it's about being calm.

顺便说一下，我考这个试考得特别差。

I was horrible at this test, by the way.

我是勉强及格的。

I passed by by the skin of my teeth.

这家伙一次就过了，但故事的重点不在这儿。

This dude passed the test first try, but that's not where the story comes in.

这个水球运动员，他轻轻松松就考过了。

So this this this water polo player, he blazes through that test.

一点问题都没有。

No problem.

另一个测试就是跑步机。

The other test is just the tread.

就叫这个名字。

That's all it's called.

跑步机。

The tread.

你要背着两个80气瓶在水里待五分钟，这些气瓶在水里是中性的。

You spend five minutes in the pool with your twin 80 tanks on, which are neutral in the water.

它们在水外面挺重的，但背在背上很碍事。

They're they're pretty heavy outside of the water, but they're they're cumbersome on your back.

你没有脚蹼。

You got no fins.

你系着配重带，双手举出水面。

You got a weight belt on, hands up out of the water.

配重带。

Weight belt.

对。

Yeah.

大概五磅左右，然后你要踩水五分钟。

It's it's like five pounds or something, and you tread for five minutes.

这就是整个测试。

And that that's the whole test.

双手要离开水面。

Hands out of the water.

双手离开水面。

Hands out of the water.

所以你只能用

So you only tread with

腿来踩水？

your legs?

没有脚蹼。

No fins.

哇。

Woah.

背着气瓶。

Tanks on.

实际上，唯一可行的办法就是想象自己像在健身房里骑动感单车一样，拼命蹬，直到肌肉完全力竭。

It the only the only way to do it realistically is imagine imagine hopping on like a a bike, like in the gym, and just sprinting until you have full muscle fatigue.

坚持个三四分钟，而且不需要游得很快，但要持续不断。

Hold it for like three, four minutes, and don't it it doesn't not even you don't even need to go that fast, but it's constant.

这是唯一的方法。

That's the only way to do it.

除非你是特别有天赋的水球运动员，掌握了踩水的艺术，他们基本上找到了移动腿的方法。

Unless you're an exceptionally talented water polo player who's mastered the art of the egg beater, where they they basically have found a way to move their legs.

那是踩水最有效的方式。

That's like the most efficient way to tread water.

而且这家伙，我跟你说真的，第一次就轻松通过了泳池测试，一点问题都没有，考完还在那儿开玩笑。

And this dude, I kid you not, who blazed through pool comp first try, no problems whatsoever, was like joking around after his test.

他踩水的时候，能把自己撑到几乎肚脐的位置，大概从乳头到肚脐那条线都完全露出水面。

He got he gets him for the tread, and he could he could hold himself almost to his belly button, probably like nipple to belly button line fully out of the water.

完全没问题。

Just no problem.

完全没问题，还面带微笑，因为他知道这是我的主场。

Just no pro like, practically smiling because he knows this is my domain.

我可以一整天都这样。

I can do this all day long.

那是我见过最不可思议的事情。

It was the most incredible thing I'd ever seen.

太疯狂了。

That's crazy.

我完全没想到会这样。

I would have never thought of that.

对。

Yeah.

首先，

First of

我完全不知道水球运动员全程都在踩水，这真的太厉害了。

all, I didn't know the water polo players had a tread the entire time, which is insanely impressive.

比如，一场比赛有多久？

Like, how long is a game?

嗯，我不太确定

Well, I don't

他们能不能时不时到池边扶着休息一下，但如果你看水球比赛的话

know if they can go to the edge and hold on periodically, but if you watch water polo

大部分时间，他们就是在踩水。

Most of the time, they're just treading.

我不是水球运动员，但据我了解，比赛就是在踩水中进行的。

I'm no water polo player, but my understanding is that the game is played while treading.

对。

Yeah.

我完全没想到，但听你这么一说，这可能是地球上最艰难的运动了。

I never would have imagined, but now that you described it that way, like, that might be the hardest sport on Earth.

哦，天哪。

Oh, dude.

跟它一比，棒球简直太轻松了。

Makes baseball look so easy.

还记得洋基队的大卫·威尔斯吗？

Remember, like, David Wells of the Yankees?

他是个大胖子，局间休息时还抽烟。

He's a huge fat guy smoking cigarettes in between innings.

贝比·鲁斯。

Babe Ruth.

贝比·鲁斯吃热狗，大肚子。

Babe Ruth eating hot dogs, big old belly.

天哪。

Oh, man.

太疯狂了。

That's crazy.

我记得在基础训练营里，甚至还没到海豹突击队训练之前，就有个挺搞笑的事。

I remember in in boot camps, this is not even before you even get to BUDS, there's there's actually it's funny.

你进去的时候，我是以平民身份进去的，所以我签了份合同，基本上就是说，好吧。

The when you go in, you know, as an I I went in as a civilian, so I signed this contract where basically you say, okay.

我要去新兵训练营，成为一名水兵，然后就有机会去参加BUDS了。

I'm gonna go to boot camp, become a sailor, and then I'll have my shot at going to BUDS.

这叫做海豹挑战合同。

It's called the SEAL challenge contract.

而且，你知道，我是这么看的，我就想，好吧。

And, you know, the way I looked at it is I'm like, okay.

我已经为BUDS做好了准备。

I've prepared for BUDS.

作为平民，我训练的目标就是那个。

That's what I as a civilian, that's what I was training for.

我压根没想过新兵训练营的事。

I didn't think at all about boot camp.

比如，海军新兵训练营的两个月能有多难？

Like, what's what's two months of Navy boot camp gonna be?

因为我脑子里想的全是BUDS。

Because what my head is focused on is is BUDS.