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乔·罗根的播客。
Joe Rogan podcast.
你去看看。
Check it out.
《乔·罗根体验》。
The Joe Rogan experience.
我的一天训练。
Train my day.
乔·罗根播客，全天候收听。
Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
我们这是怎么了？那个金队是怎么回事？
When we're what's with the gold team?
发生什么事了？
What's going on?
来一个，给我笑一个。
The one Give me a smile.
哇，你这有上下两层啊，哥们。
Oh, you got a top and bottom, man.
你干嘛了？
What did you do?
太棒了。
It's amazing.
我从小就一直盼着有钱能买一个这样的。
I've always wanted to have money so I could get one of these when I was a kid growing up.
刚才那个是可以直接去掉的，还是说没问题？
Now was that one of the ones that you could take out, or is it okay.
那挺好的。
That's good.
毕竟这牵扯到的承诺挺大的。
Because that's such a commitment.
你懂的吧？
You know?
总有一天，得去白宫一趟。
One day, gotta go to the White House.
对。
Right.
你牙齿上镶着钻石和金子。
You got diamonds and gold in your teeth.
那太离谱了。
That's crazy.
确实。
That is.
可能是你第一次去。
Might be your first time.
你知道吗？
You know?
戴着舒服吗？
How does it fit?
就像保持器那样吗？
It's like like a retainer?
对。
Yeah.
所以他们给它戴上。
So they they fit it.
然后塑形。
They mold it.
我是在达拉斯弄的。
I got it done in in, Dallas, actually.
他们先把牙齿做个模型，然后就能直接戴上了。
And, they just fit it, mold it to your teeth, and then you could pop them in.
感觉就像戴保持器一样。
It's almost like wearing a retainer.
德州人真喜欢镶金牙。
Texas loves grills.
是的。
Yeah.
他们特别喜欢牙套。
They love grills.
得弄一个
Gotta get
你应该去弄一个。
You should.
保罗·威尔逊。
Paul Wilson.
他会帮我们搞定。
He's gonna hook us up.
你就去等着就行。
Just go hang.
对。
Yeah.
我不确定。
I'm not sure.
我记得有一集是Theo那集的，对吧？
I just I remember what was the one episode with Theo?
你当时问了关于耳机的事，他说就像坐在那儿戴着避孕套一样，然后她就一直盯着你看，或者我记不清具体怎么说的了。
And you asked about the headphones, and he was he said something like it's like sitting there with the with the the with the condom, and and then she's just looking at you or I forget exactly how the joke goes.
但确实挺搞笑的。
But it was it was funny.
这就像Theo Von最经典的时刻之一，他说了一堆话。
It's like one of Theo Von's greatest moments where he says all these things.
他说，当我想说什么的时候，我就直接写下来。
He was like, when I when I feel like saying it, I just write it down.
我不知道你有没有看过那个片段，真的特别搞笑。
I don't know if you saw this clip, but it's hilarious.
我肯定当时在场，但他说了太多离谱的话了。
I'm sure I was there when it happened, but he says so many ridiculous things.
我记不起来了。
I can't remember.
来了。
Here it goes.
在这边。
Over here.
我们放
We'll put
就在那儿。
it there.
他是怎么戴上的？
How does he put it on?
我觉得这儿就我一个人。
I feel like I'm alone here.
我整只手都满了。
My full hand.
对。
Yeah.
确实很奇怪。
It is weird.
现在你回来了。
Now you're back.
就像你戴上安全套，而对方还在看手机，你会觉得，哦，这有点尴尬。
It's like when you put a condom on and then the other person's still looking at their phone, you're like, oh, this is weird.
而且对方还是个女的。
And the person, I mean, is a woman too.
没错。
Right.
你
You
你得告诉所有人。
gotta you gotta tell everybody.
我只是说说而已。
Well, I'm just saying I'm saying.
就是这样。
There it is.
对。
Yeah.
对。
Yeah.
所以这就是为什么我们提到耳机，那个念头立刻出现在我脑海里。
That's why we said the the headphones that just that just came to my head, like, immediately.
对。
Yeah.
我有时候会摘下来。
I sometimes I have them off.
有时候戴着，但戴着更好。
Sometimes I have them on, but it's better to have them on.
它会锁住
You'll it locks
你。
you in.
把你锁在里面。
Locks you in.
你知道吧？
You know?
深有同感。
I feel that.
这周末的UFC比赛，在阿佩克斯举办的那场，你看了吗？
Did you watch the UFC this past weekend, the Apex?
我看了主赛，科曼那一场。
I watched the main event, Komain.
兄弟，你说的是主赛啊。
Bro, the main event.
确实厉害。
Is legit.
我一开始对他不太确定，但现在我非常肯定。
I wasn't too sure about him, but now I'm very sure.
作为一个拥有这项运动中最顶尖背部控制技术的选手，你肯定得欣赏那种背部控制技术。
As a man who has one of the best back controls in the sport, you you had to appreciate that back control.
哦，太精彩了。
Oh, it was amazing.
他把他放倒了，我还有点意外。
He took him down, which I was kinda surprised.
我当时就想，他干嘛非要抱摔呢？
I was like, why is he going for the takedown?
太疯狂了。
Crazy.
就是想证明点什么。
Proving a point.
证明一下
Proving a
因为他的站立技术也非常厉害。
point because his stand up is so sick too.
确实。
Yeah.
这家伙太全面了，真的。
That guy's so complete, man.
而且还能对甘罗特使出这一招？
And To do that to Gamrot?
我也是这么想的。
That's what I was gonna say.
太疯狂了。
Crazy.
他本身也是个极其厉害的摔跤手。
He's a sick grappler in his own right.
我本来以为他在那一刻能把腿抬起来挣脱出来。
I thought he was gonna get out that one that one moment where he had the leg hiked up.
他抓住了脚踝，只要往内侧游身进去就行了，但他拖得太久，让对方有机会倒地，然后对方重新调整姿势，锁住了十字固，比赛就结束了。
He had the ankle, and all he had to do is swim inside, but he kept it too long, allowed him to hit the ground, and he was able to readjust and lock in that that figured four, and it was over.
对，当他伸手抓住远处的胳膊，利用它来抱住后背的时候。是的。
Well, when he reached over and grabbed the far arm and used that to hang on to the back Yes.
就像那样
Like, that
太溜了。
is slick.
对。
Yes.
那招真漂亮。
That was slick.
他简直太滑头了，兄弟，而且水平极高。
He was he was fucking slick, man, and just just very high level.
他的表现简直提升了一个档次。
Everything was, like, like, an elevated level.
赛前我对他就挺看好的，但现在我觉得，这家伙真能成事。
I was I had a very high opinion of him before the fight, but now I'm like, oh, this dude could do it.
他太懂球了。
He he knows ball.
他确实懂球。
He knows ball.
我当时真的挺意外的。
I was I I was really surprised with that.
而且比赛结束得那么快，他之前的所有比赛都是第一回合就解决了。
And the fact that it went so quick, all his fights have been in the first round.
然后就是这些缠斗，从那个位置开始的缠斗。
Then these scrambles these scrambles from this position.
一般来说，在那个位置上，想要保持背部控制是非常难的。
Now generally in this position, it's so hard to keep back control.
就像这样，抓住手臂然后做这个调整，兄弟，这技术真的很高超。
Like, right here, grabbing the arm and this adjustment, bro, that's that's really skillful.
这就跟安全带一样。
It's a seat belt.
对。
Yeah.
就是他能这么灵活地调整位置。
Just the way he's able to adjust it.
加梅拉拼命想翻盘，可一旦被他拿到那个位置，比赛就结束了。
Gamera's trying everything, but once he gets to that position, it's over.
你的背部完全暴露在他身下，彻底被压制住了。
You're you're back you're back in his backpack.
而且
And
他身上的技术动作真的太多了，太厉害了。
He's got a lot going on, man.
首先，他在这个体重级别里算特别高的了。
He's, first of all, real tall for the weight class.
特别高大。
Huge.
他身高超过六英尺，臂展长，打击能力非常出色。
He's over six feet tall, long, excellent reach, excellent strike.
他还有一招特别漂亮，就是假装从背上起来，结果加姆罗德一冲上来，脖子就暴露了。
The other thing that he did that was really slick, he pretended to get up off of his back, so Gamrod explodes, and he exposes his neck right there.
把那个画面稍微回放一下。
Watch that back that up just a touch.
什么？
What?
你看那个。
Look at that.
这招太漂亮了。
This is so slick.
你看，就看这儿。
Like, look.
他躺在背上。
He's hanging on his back.
他们在挣扎，他说让我坐起来，然后他就坐起来了。
They're struggling, and he said, let me just sit up, and he'll sit up.
啪。
Bam.
就在那儿。
Right there.
然后这一下真够狠的。
And then sit nasty.
这家伙滑头得很，兄弟。
This kid slick as fuck, man.
太聪明了。
That's so slick.
这招真妙，因为对方会觉得，哦，现在是我的机会了。
That's such a good sneaky move because the guy's like, oh, now is my time.
你知道，就是那种你觉得可以动弹的时刻。
You know, those moments where you feel like you can move.
对。
Yeah.
就像，他给你留了点空间。
Like, he got he he give you some space.
然后我就想，我要走了。
Like, I'm gonna go.
接着……
And then
我每次训练时，如果有人从背后控制我，我总是尽量注意被绞的风险。
I'm I'm anytime I'm in training and someone has my back, I always try to make sure I'm always aware of the choke.
Matt Sarah 总是说，首先要防绞，这也是我一直努力专注的重点。
Matt Sarah always says, always protect the choke first, and that's the main thing I always try to focus on.
在开始做其他任何动作之前，先保护好脖子不被锁住，这太重要了。
Protect the choke first before you start doing anything else that's crazy.
因为到最后，只需要那一瞬间的空隙，对手就能把脖子套进去，那可能就直接决定胜负了。
Because at the end of the day, it just takes that little split second to get under the neck, and that could be the fight.
对。
Yeah.
有时候人们就是太着急了。
It's like sometimes people just get they they they get a little too urgent.
你懂的？
You know?
他们有时候太急了，只想赶紧搞出点动静，而不是一直把安全放在第一位。
They get a little too they just wanna make something happen without just being safe all the time.
安全第一嘛。
Always be safe.
所以在加马拉斯那个情况里，那就是关键的时刻，毕竟谁说得准呢？
And that's then in Gamarath's situation right there, that was the moment because who knows?
如果他当时能从那个位置脱身，躲过所有那些绞杀尝试，撑到下一轮，谁知道呢？
If he could have made it out of that position and survived all those choke attempts and got to the next round, who knows?
对吧？
You know?
而且如果他骑到上位，谁知道呢？
And if he got on top, who knows?
萨尔杀了他，我是说，你猜他耐力很好。
And Sal killed I mean, you presume he has great endurance.
你猜是这样，但我们其实还不知道。
You presume but we really don't know yet.
我们确实不知道。
We haven't know.
关于他，还是个未知数，真他妈的疯狂。
It's still fucking wild unknown about him.
对。
Yeah.
说实话，我真不知道他到底有多厉害，但我可以告诉你，第一回合他就够狠的。
That's I'm just like, I don't know how good he actually is, but I could tell you what, first round, he's a motherfucker.
确实够狠。
He's a motherfucker.
那家伙挺厉害的。
That guy is good.
挺有意思的，像这种背景还不清楚的人。
It's interesting, like, these guys that are that have the unknowns.
你懂的。
You know?
就像有些选手，像托姆·阿斯皮纳尔那样一路打上来成为重量级世界冠军，但大家其实还不确定他能不能撑到第四、第五回合。
Like, some guys get really fought like, Tom Aspinall come becomes heavyweight champion of the world, and it's kind of an unknown whether he can fight in the fourth and fifth rounds.
挺疯狂的。
Kinda crazy.
对。
Yeah.
对吧？
Right?
我们只知道他是个擅长突袭的人。
We just know he's a blitzer.
我们知道他身材高大、速度很快，但我们很少看到他能撑过第一轮。
We know he's big and fast, but we really rarely see him get out of the first round.
是的。
Yeah.
挺疯狂的。
Kinda nuts.
这既是福也是祸。
It's it's a gift and a curse.
没错。
Right.
这是个很好的切入点
That's a good way to
把它放好。
put it.
因为你能拿到两份薪水。
Because you get both your paychecks.
你结束得特别早。
You get done really, really early.
但要是碰上了不对付的人，打起来变得棘手，你就不知道能不能再往前推一步，因为
But then if you get into the you know, you run into the wrong one and the fight starts to get tough, you don't know if you can actually push that envelope because
训练方式完全不一样。
training is different.
这绝对是UFC最扯淡的地方。
That is the most bullshit part of the UFC.
你两份工资都能拿到手。
You get both your paychecks.
真是离谱。
Fuck off.
别再说这个了。
Fuck off with that.
我讨厌这样。
I hate it.
这让我抓狂。
That drives me nuts.
我认识老板。
I know the boss.
我们可以跟他谈谈。
We could talk to him.
他不会听的。
He's not gonna listen.
我已经说过一百遍了。
He would've I've said this a 100 times already.
应该是你拿多少就多少。
It should be you get paid what you get paid.
首先，如果裁判每次都能判得完美，那也许你还能为这个说法争辩一下，但我仍然认为你不应该为这个争辩，因为我觉得选手们都是拼尽全力去赢的。
It shouldn't be first of all, if if judges were perfect every time, maybe you could make an argument for that, but I still don't think you should make an argument for that because I think guys fight as hard as they can to win.
没有人会因为觉得能拿到获胜奖金而更拼命。
There's no one who's fighting harder because you think you're gonna get a win bonus.
你知道，你是在尽最大努力去战斗，是的。
You know, you're fighting as hard as you possibly can Yeah.
在最高水平上。
At the highest level.
所以这并不会激励人们更努力地战斗。
And so it's you're not incentivizing people to fight harder.
你只是把他们的职业生涯、他们的未来、他们养家糊口的实际方式，过多地交给了那些有时会出错的人的心血来潮。
You're just you're you're giving too much of their career, too much of their future, too much of their their actual like, how they're gonna feed their family to the whims of people that sometimes get it wrong.
完全正确。
A 100%.
我确实记得有一次情况，应该说，我本来会更努力去打的，那就是UFC 300对阵卡尔文·卡塔尔的时候，当时达纳宣布奖金是30万。
I I I do remember one incident where I was situation, I should say, where I was going to fight harder, and that was UFC three hundred against Calvin Ketor when Dana announced the bonuses were gonna be 300,000.
我当时特别兴奋。
And I got super pumped up.
大家总拿这件事说事。
And everyone always points to this.
他们都说，你当时那么激动，结果上台后却摔成那样。
They go, you got so excited, and then you went there and you fall like that.
我就跟他们说，听我说。
I go, listen.
跳舞得两个人配合才行。
It's it takes two to tango.
如果他想一直抱着我，我也没办法。
If he wants to sit there and hold me, there's not much I could do.
我确实没法光靠打架解决问题，我之前也想过。
I can't really just fight I thought about it.
我当时想，干脆出去就拼命挥拳、全力进攻，把对手摔倒，说不定还能来个疯狂的终结，但事情没往那个方向发展。
I like, I'm gonna just go out there and just start swinging for the fences take them down and maybe get a crazy finish, and it didn't go that way.
但我试过了。
But I tried.
我真的试了。
I tried.
我也想过。
I thought about it.
两个人互相抵消了。
Guys cancel each other out too.
对。
Yeah.
就是这样，你知道，当人们想看精彩的比赛时。
That's the thing, you know, when people want exciting fights.
每个人都想看精彩的比赛。
Everybody wants exciting fights.
当然。
Of course.
当然。
Of course.
但现实情况是，两个技术好的选手互相交手时，有时候会互相抵消，导致比赛变得很无聊。
But there is a reality to skillful guys going after each other, and then sometimes they'll cancel each other out and make a boring fight.
是的。
Yeah.
这种事经常发生。
That shit happens.
确实是这样。
It it really does.
完全没道理可循。
There's there's no rhyme or reason either.
我是说，到底是谁啊？
I mean, who is it?
比如弗朗西斯·刘易斯。
Like, Francis Lewis.
弗朗西斯·埃加努和德里克·欧
Francis Eganu and Derrick Oh
我的天啊。
my god.
史上最糟糕的比赛之一。
One of the worst fights of all time.
但我们当时都以为那会是一场速战速决的比赛。
But we all thought that was gonna be just a quick fight.
结果有人
Someone
会打得疯狂。
gonna be madness.
疯狂。
Madness.
而且肯定是疯狂。
And Guaranteed madness.
这两位都是重量级历史上最具KO能力的拳手。
Two of the biggest knockout artists in the history of the heavyweight division.
风格完全相反。
An exact opposite.
啥也没有。
Nothing.
什么都没发生。
Nothing happened.
但简直太折磨人了。
But It was hell.
这种比赛确实发生了。
These fights happened.
然后粉丝们就开始对你指指点点。
And then the fans get on you about it.
我就想，听我说。
I'm like, listen.
你去挨那家伙一拳试试。
You go take a punch from that guy.
那家伙一拳能把我的意识打到另一个宇宙去。
That guy is gonna send my consciousness to a whole different universe.
嗯，弗朗西斯刚输给斯蒂普，我觉得他心理上有点受打击。
Well, you had Francis coming off the loss to Stipe, and I think he was a little rattled mentally.
然后德里克呢，他知道自己是在等一个重大机会，不愿意冒险冲进去挨打。
And then you had Derek who realizes, like, he's looking for his one big shot, and he's not willing to wade in and get clipped.
所以他就等着打反击，结果谁也没动手。
And so he's, you know, waiting to play the role of the counter striker, and then no one does nothing.
对。
Yeah.
卡洛斯·斯帕扎和罗莎·罗莎那几场。
Carlos Spazza and Rosa Rosa number units.
史上最烂的比赛。
Worst fight in history,
可以说。
arguably.
我觉得可能更糟，因为那场打了五回合。
It's it's I'm gonna I think it might be worse because I think that was five rounds.
我们硬生生熬过了那五回合的烂仗。
We went through five rounds of that shit.
整整五回合。
It was five rounds.
这场比那场更糟。德里克·刘易斯和弗朗西斯·昂加诺的对决本来会因为期望值太高而成为最烂的一场，但那场只打了三轮。
That was worse than Derek Derrick Lewis and Francis Ngannou would have been the worst because of expectations, but it was only three rounds.
对。
Yeah.
这场可是整整五轮，真不知道到底在搞什么鬼。
This was five rounds of what the fuck is going on.
我这不是在批评选手。
And I I it's not a knock on the fighters.
当然，我要说的是，两位最伟大的蝇量级选手。
Of course, I'll just two of the greatest fly flyweights.
对。
Right.
不。
No.
是的。
Yeah.
我是说，草量级。
I mean, strawweights.
草量级。
Strawweights.
历史最伟大的两位草量级选手。
Two of the greatest strawweights of all time.
我是说，罗斯·娜玛尤纳斯那一记高扫踢倒张伟丽的时候，我的天啊。
I mean, Rose Namajunas, when she knocked out Zhang Weili with that fucking head kick, holy shit.
她一开场就对着乔安娜左勾拳，直接把她KO了。真的，罗斯太猛了。
When she when when she starts Joanna, hit her with that left hook and took her out, like, dude, Rose is a beast, man.
她确实是个狠角色。
She's a beast.
绝对是历史上最让人兴奋、最精彩的冠军选手之一。
One of the absolute most exciting fighters champions of all time.
在她那些经典对决里，有些比赛简直太精彩了，但刚才那场打得真烂。
In those those those particular exchanges, like some of the fights that she's had, they've been amazing, amazing fights, but that just fight that fight sucked
对。
Yeah.
不管出于什么原因。
For whatever reason.
这种事时有发生。
It happens.
有时候就是会这样。
It just happens sometimes.
没法解释，但有时候你在里面就是会有那种感觉，心里想着算了，我不打了。
Can't explain it, but sometimes you just feel something when you're in there, and you're just kinda like, well, I'm not gonna go.
对方也会想，你不打我也不打。
And they're like, well, I'm not gonna go if you're not gonna go.
那比赛就变成
Then it's just
比谁先眨眼了。
a staring contest.
我不知道那场拳赛到底怎么回事。
I don't know what was going on in that fight.
真的很奇怪。
It was very strange.
不过我觉得，当你经历过那么多场硬仗之后，
But I also think there's a time when you've been in so many wars.
你的心态和愿意跟对方对拼的程度也会不一样。
You know, you've been you've had so many wars that your your willingness to exchange is different.
你那种想要进攻的冲动也不一样了。
Your your your drive to attack is different.
那股劲儿已经没了。
It's not there anymore.
明白吗？
You know?
特别是那些经历过战争的人，罗斯也打过几场仗。
And some especially people who fight in wars, and Rose has been in some wars.
这也是为什么我现在打架的方式跟以前完全不同了。因为在那之前经历的那些比赛，我是说，在通往冠军头衔的路上，我经历过那种特别激烈的硬仗，面对那么多对手，我不得不改变策略。
And that's why I fight the way I fight now so differently because those wars that I had leading up to where I'm at, I mean, I had that barn burner with all these other guys on the way to the title, and I had to change it up.
对。
Yeah.
你得先保住命。
You gotta stay alive.
你得打得聪明点。
You gotta fight smart.
我开玩笑的。
I'm joking.
我的比赛不像那样激烈。
My fights are not barn burners like that.
对。
No.
但风格确实不一样。
But they're different.
你的比赛打得最精彩，你拥有的背部控制技巧是我在这项运动中见过的最好的。
Your fights are the best ex you have the best back control I think I've ever seen in this sport.
当你骑到对手背上的时候，我心里就会想：‘哇，太厉害了。’
There's when you get on someone's back, I'm like, oh, shit.
这场面简直让人疯狂。
This is getting crazy.
对。
Yeah.
你懂的？
You know?
我真的挺感激的，因为我确实听到你们在节目里聊到这些。
I do wanna say I appreciate because I do hear the the episodes where you guys talk about it.
我就想，对啊。
I'm like, yeah.
哥们，你的背部控制简直太猛了。
Dude, your back control's nuts.
桑海根那场打斗太疯狂了。
The Sanhagen fight is nuts.
你知道桑海根有多厉害，你直接拿到他的背部控制，然后比赛就结束了，那动作简直太丝滑了。
When you know how good Sanhagen is and you just got that back and that was nighty night, it was so slick.
你也对好多选手用过这招，看得出来，对你来说，第二次跟波伊尔打的那场比赛就是救赎。
You've done that to so many dudes too, and you could see, you know, like, obviously, redemption for you was the second Poirier fight.
那就是你的救赎之战。
That was redemption.
感觉太棒了。
Felt so good.
酷。
Cool.
我记得你当时紧接着就来了。
I remember you came in right afterwards.
那架势就像是在说，现在大家都给我闭嘴。
Was like, everybody's gotta shut the fuck up now.
他们都该闭嘴。
They all gotta shut the fuck up.
他们说这是分歧判定。
They go it was a split decision.
我说，闭嘴。
I go, shut up.
闭嘴。
Shut up.
对。
Yeah.
拜托。
Please.
对。
Yeah.
你你你第二场真的让大家大开眼界。
You you you really showed everybody in that second fight.
第一场简直是一团糟。
The first fight was just nonsense.
第一场那种招数，趁人家单膝跪地的时候打人家。
The first fight would just that kind of a a move to hit someone when they're down on one knee like that.
你搞什么鬼啊，兄弟？
Like, what the fuck are you doing, man?
那段时间真难熬。
That was a rough time.
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太疯狂了。
Crazy.
而且你当时颈椎已经椎间盘突出了。
And then you having already had a bulging disc in your neck.
你的脖子已经废了。
Your neck was already fucked.
你脖子上带着人工椎间盘还能达到那样的竞技水平，也挺不可思议的。
It's also kinda crazy that you could compete at the level that you compete at with a fake disc in your neck.
对。
Yeah.
你会想起那件事吗？
Do you ever think about that thing?
哦，百分之百会。
Oh, a 100%.
我现在三头肌还有神经损伤呢。
I still have, like, nerve damage in my tricep from it.
比如我做普拉提或者平板支撑的时候，你能看到这一侧一直在抖。
Like, if I do, like, a Pilates or just a plank, you'll see it just this side shaking.
真的挺严重的。
It's so bad.
到现在虽然比之前好多了，但很多人不理解的是，像我们这样的格斗选手，为了走到今天这一步，背后付出了太多常人难以想象的代价。
Even till this day, it's a lot better than what it was before, but this is what people don't understand that some of these fighters, us, like, we go through a lot just to make it.
而且当你听到那些没人逼你、是你自己选择去承受的痛苦时，才会真正明白这一切意味着什么。
And you're gonna hear the other side of it when no one told you to do it.
其实重点不在这儿。
It's not even about that.
我们只是拼命去追求那种特别棒、甚至可以用‘疯狂’来形容的目标。
It's just like we're trying our best to chase something great, something that's crazy in in the sense of the word.
你说对吧？
You're right?
为了达到那个目标，我们不惜让身体承受巨大的痛苦。
And you put your body through hell to get there.
我知道外面有很多铁杆粉丝能理解这一点，但也有一些比较随意的观众，他们其实不太懂。
And I just I know there's great fans out there who appreciate that, and there's there's the other ones who are more casual, and they don't really understand.
但我真希望他们能抽出时间，哪怕只是训练一周，就能明白我们在高水平对抗中，每天让身体承受多大的压力。
But I wish they took the time out just to train to do a week of training and understand what we put our bodies through day in at a high level against other high level guys.
听我说。
Listen.
你们需要那些普通观众。
You need the casuals.
你得让大家都去买票才行。
You you need everybody to buy tickets.
一切都挺好的。
It's all great.
对。
Yeah.
但现实是，那些随便看看的人还有所有黑粉，你们这是在害自己。
But the reality of the casuals, all you haters, you are doing yourself a disservice to.
你说的话太离谱了。
You're saying ridiculous shit.
你表现得像个傻瓜一样。
You're acting like a fucking retard.
你真正该做的是把自己的生活过好，这样你就不会去嫉妒别人了，因为几乎所有爱嫉妒的人都是失败者。
What you really should do is do better in your own life, and you wouldn't be a hater because almost all haters are losers.
百分之百都是。
100% of them.
而且那些被他们喷的人，表现比他们好多了。
And the people they're hating on are doing way better than them.
百分之百没错。
A 100%.
批评可以是有道理的，但有理有据的批评也应该用尊重的态度来表达。
Legitimate criticism, but legitimate criticism can be handled respectfully.
而那些不能以尊重的方式提出合理批评的人，纯粹是因为还没被人好好教训过。
And the people that don't handle legitimate the people that don't dish out legitimate criticism respectfully, it's because they haven't been smacked.
对吧？
Right?
是的。
Yeah.
或者他们还没被那个被他们胡说八道的人教训过。
Or they haven't been smacked by the guy they're talking shit about.
对。
Yeah.
或者他们见到本人后，立马就改口了。
Or they see him, and then they change their tune real quick.
这事儿真挺奇怪的。
It's such a weird thing.
太离谱了。
So crazy.
他们居然拿真正的职业格斗选手说事，还骂人家是软蛋。
They talk about literal professional fighters and call them pussies.
真的能看出来，他们太自欺欺人了。
Can show you It's so delusional.
私信里那些话。
DMs.
真是想得太美了。
It's so delusional.
有个人最近跟我说要把我拦腰折断，我说真的假的？
One guy said I'll fold you in half, like, recently because I I don't Yeah.
但他们
But they
只是想搞乱你的心态。
are just trying to fuck with your head.
他们自己都不信这套。
They don't even believe that.
他们是在试图
They're trying
就是想激怒阿尔贾曼·斯特林。
to get a rise out of Aljamain Sterling.
他们居然能激怒UFC冠军。
They can get a rise out of a UFC champion.
你知道那些16岁、满手都是奇多薯片粉末的毛头小子，能直接跟你产生联系，心里得多激动吗？
You know how when they're 16 years old jerking off Cheetos all over their fingers, you know how exciting that must be to to to have direct contact with you?
确实。
Yeah.
所以我现在尽量不像以前那样去回应他们。
That's why I try I try not to engage as much as I used to.
因为以前我会，我想我们之前聊过这个。
Because before I would I think we talked about it before.
我会跟他们来回争论。
I would engage and go back and forth.
别这么做。
Don't do it.
我其实已经不怎么那样了，但以前的我可能什么疯话都说得出来，不过现在，你知道，我成熟了一些。
And I I kinda got away from it, but the old version of me would like to just say all kinds of crazy shit, but I'm I'm, you know, a little bit more mature now.
这没什么好处，还浪费精力。
There's no benefit in it, and it wastes energy.
问题就在这儿。
That's the problem.
而且还会让你分心。
And then it also wastes your you get distracted.
比如，他回了什么？
Like, what did he say back?
我都没看清那家伙回了什么。
I can't really see what this motherfucker responded to.
我再去搞他一下。
I'm gonna get him again.
我确实会去看。
I do check.
我确实会查。
I do check.
你从Instagram上存了他好多照片。
You saved a bunch of pictures of him from the Instagram.
让我亲眼看看你本人。
Let me see your ass in person in real life.
对。
Yeah.
在他删掉之前，我得截个图。
Before he deletes it, let me screenshot these.
对。
Yeah.
因为人就是这样，所以我理解。
Because people are people, so I get it.
对。
Yeah.
人嘛就是这样，说实话，我当年肯定也会干出同样的混账事。
People are people, man, and I would have done the fucking same thing.
要是我十五岁，有人给我开个Instagram账号，让我随便骂人，那我肯定见谁骂谁。
If I was 15 years old and somebody gave me an Instagram account and I could talk shit to whoever, I would talk shit to everybody.
不管是谁。
Whoever it was.
我在想我那时候是不是也这样。
I'm trying to think if I was like that.
我不知道
I don't know
我以前是不是也那样过
if I was ever like that.
你小时候那东西还不存在呢
It didn't exist when you were a kid.
那时候根本没法接触到
It that the access didn't exist.
如果那时候真有这种渠道，我敢保证。
If that access existed, I guarantee.
你和你的朋友们肯定也会说，哎，Drake在跟我互喷呢。
If you and your friends like, bro, Drake's talking shit with me.
对啊。
Yeah.
然后你和Drake就开始互相回怼
And you and Drake are going back
来回骂，你就是那种会说‘去你的，软蛋’的人。
and forth, you're like, fuck you pussy.
当然
Of
你肯定会这么做。
course, you would do it.
每个人都会这么做。
Everybody would do it.
我百分之百会这么做。
I would do it a 100%.
我觉得这就是人的本性吧。
I guess it's just human nature.
百分之百是。
It 100%.
但我觉得当你到了你现在这个水平，真正的世界冠军，最高水准的职业选手，那样做其实是在贬低自己。
But I think that when you get to the level that you're at, a literal world champion and a professional fighter of the highest caliber, that's you do yourself a disservice.
我确实喜欢肖恩·斯特里克兰。
You do I love Sean Strickland.
他疯得要命，但他总是跟任何人正面交锋。
He's crazy as fuck, but he gets in there with everybody all the time.
我喜欢这样。
I love it.
他整天跟人互怼，说垃圾话。
He gets in there all day long talking shit with people.
他确实会去掺和，但不知怎么的，这并不会让他分心。
He gets in there, but it somehow or another doesn't distract him.
我不会给他同样的建议。
I wouldn't give him the same advice.
他的脑子有点问题，像他那样整天处于这种冲突之中，看起来完全没影响到他。
Something's fucked up about his brain that, like, for him to be in that kind of conflict all day, it doesn't seem to bother him at all.
我觉得那反而像是在给他加油打气。
I think it fee like, fuels him.
就是，就像，想继续往前冲，像大卫·戈金斯那样
Just, like, wanna keep going more, like, driving Bro, Goggins
他在跑步时会播放一段录音，里面全是那些黑粉对他说的难听话。
plays a recording of all the shit that all of his haters have said to him while he runs.
我不会那么做。
I wouldn't do that.
但是，但是……
But But
你懂我的意思吗？
you know what I'm saying?
对。
Yeah.
就是有些人天生就不一样，而肖恩就是那种特别不一样的人，不管出于什么原因。
Like, there's people that are wired different, and they think Sean is very, very much wired different and for whatever for whatever reason.
你知道吗？
You know?
是的。
Yeah.
我有时候，我总是，但我喜欢这样。
I sometimes I always but I like it.
我喜欢他应该有一个像雷·朗戈那样的环节，就像雷·朗戈一分钟那样。
I like he should have a segment that like, how Ray Longo has, like, the the Ray Longo minute.
他应该有一个斯特里克兰一分钟之类的。
He should have, like, a a Strickland minute.
嗯，我当时
Well, I was
在跟他说。
telling him.
你知道，他在这边的时候我们聊过。
You know, we were talking when he was out here.
他在击败哈姆扎之后去了韦尔斯，去处理肩膀的问题。
He went to to Wells well to get his shoulder worked on after the Hamzah victory.
我当时说，你完全可以做个播客。
And I was saying, you 100% could do a podcast.
那会非常搞笑。
It would be hilarious.
那会很棒。
It would be great.
你可以请嘉宾来。
You could have guests on.
你想干嘛就干嘛，完全自由。
You could do whatever the fuck you want.
说真的，你退役后在外面也有很好的发展前途。
Like, you have a real future outside the sport.
而且他理财也很在行。
Like, once and he's also very smart with his money.
别看这人平时疯疯癫癫的，但他存了不少钱。
As crazy as that dude is, he saved a ton of money.
他在推特上给出的投资建议特别靠谱。
He gives great investment advice on Twitter.
真的，他连投资都能给建议。
Like, he he gives investment advice.
你心里肯定在想，等等。
You're like, wait.
这到底是谁啊？
Who the fuck is this?
对。
Yeah.
还是同一个人？
This is the same guy?
他居然在教你怎么投资，什么标普指数之类的。
He's telling you how to invest your money, you know, S and P and all this shit.
哎，真的假的？
Like, oh, what?
他其实没看起来那么疯。
He's not as crazy as he comes off.
他比大家以为的要聪明得多。
He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
他故意装傻来迷惑别人，让人误以为他是个蠢人。
He uses that as, like, it tricks you, and it it tricks you into thinking that he's, like, a silly person.
确实如此。
Yeah.
你明白我的意思吧？
You know what I mean?
但他想到什么就会说什么。
But he'll say whatever comes to mind.
对。
Yeah.
就是他那样。
That's him.
但到底哪个混蛋能打得过？
But which motherfucker can fight.
对。
Yeah.
而且我尊重他，这才是关键。
And I respect the day, that's the thing.
那家伙确实能打。
That dude can fight.
就是说，他能打，而且打法很特别。
Like, he can fight, and he fights in a weird way.
他的风格非常独特。
Like, his very weird style.
没人有这种打法。
Like, nobody has that style.
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I make better decisions.
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They're so confident in it that they even offer a sixty day money back guarantee.
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So go ahead and take your shot.
顺便问一下，你有打火机吗？有。
By the way, do you have a lighter Yes.
还有杯子呢？
And a cup?
嗯，你想来点雪茄吗？
Well, you want some cigars?
我这儿有一些。
I I got some.
哦，天哪。
Oh, shit.
阿尔加曼带来了礼物。
Aljamain brings gifts.
走吧。
Let's go.
我们带了礼物。
We bring gifts.
这些也是战士雪茄。
These are fighter cigars too.
战士雪茄？
Fighter cigars?
是的。
Yeah.
我算是其中的一部分吗？
I'm, like, part of mean?
所以是不同的战士系列。
So it's different fighter lines.
我知道你有一个基金会。
I know you got a foundation.
对。
Uh-huh.
我要是能打开它就好了。
If I could ever open this.
我觉得现在都凉透了。
I think it's all cold now.
我得使出我的打架力气了。
I'm gonna use my my my fighting muscles.
不过，去你的吧。
Fuck you, though.
其实呢
It is about
我可能会。
I might.
你也许会。
You might.
你这爪子跟熊爪似的，力气真大。
You got the bear claws.
说起来还挺奇怪的。
It's weird.
我把它弄坏了。
I broke it.
我刚把这个也弄坏了，哎呀。
I broke the oh, I broke that too.
搞什么鬼啊，兄弟？
What the fuck, dude?
箭头，你怎么样？
How you doing arrowhead?
按理说应该一拉就开的。
It's supposed to just pull open.
按理说是这样的。
Should.
我今天早上把它打开了。
I opened it this morning.
真奇怪。
That's weird.
它出什么事了吗？
Did something happen to it?
冻坏了？
Got cold?
我记得这儿好像有把刀来着。
I got a knife in here somewhere.
杰米，之前放在这儿的那几把大刀去哪了？
Where's some big ass knives that used to be here, Jamie?
哦，对哦。
Oh, yeah.
得先把它们拆出来才行。
Had to take them out.
为什么？
Why?
哦，是因为副总统来的时候吗？
Oh, when the vice president was here?
对。
Yes.
幸好我随身都带着一把。
Lucky I always carry one.
阿尔杰曼兄弟，要是咱们打不开这东西的话，它是经过色封处理的，根本没法弄开。
If we can't get these open, Aljamain bro, this is, like, chromatically sealed.
这是不是装反了还是出什么别的问题了？
Is that backwards or something?
没有。
No.
找到了。
There we go.
好了，打开了。
There we go.
所以我们拿到的这些是不同的。
So we got different ones.
你这里面有一个Jude Dober。
You got a Jude Dober in there.
你有一个FunkMaster。
You got a FunkMaster.
你有Oday吗？
You got Oday?
我觉得那个就是FunkMaster。
I think that's the FunkMaster.
哦。
Oh.
所以我不知道你是喜欢浅色的还是深色的。
So I don't know if you like, like, light or dark.
我都喜欢。
I like them all.
迈尔斯。
Miles.
是你吗？
Is you?
我们得抽你的。
We gotta smoke yours.
得了吧。
Come on.
Triumph雪茄。
Triumph cigars.
那这些是谁做的？
So who's who's making these?
它们是在哪里生产的？
Where are they making them out of?
所以他是从不同的地方弄来的。
So he gets them from different places.
他们那边有些修剪工具
They got some clipper
后面也有一个。
on the back of that too.
太酷了。
Sick.
他这些雪茄都是从不同地方找来的吗？
He gets them from different places?
对的。
Like Yeah.
真的是古巴产的吗？
Like Cuba Really?
洪都拉斯的莫拉瓜。
Moragua, Honduras.
古巴。
Cuba.
真的吗？
Really?
我觉得是古巴产的。
I believe it's Cuban.
因为古巴雪茄
Because Cuban cigars
是Bandals。
are Bandals.
绝对不行。
Hard no.
不行。
No.
其实并没有被禁止。
They're not really banned.
把盖子打开。
Pop the top.
你抽过雪茄吗？儿子。
Have you ever do you know how to smoke cigars, son?
你到底在说什么呢？
You're not what are
你在干嘛？
you doing?
你在干嘛？
What are you doing?
快把那个给我。
Give give that to me.
哎呀，糟了。
Oh, shit.
是那个修剪器。
The clipper.
兄弟，这太猛了
Bro, this is high.
这玩意儿可是真的高端
This is high level shit right here.
那是卡吕比雪茄。
Calibri.
哇哦。
Wow.
好多假古巴雪茄。
Lot of lot of fake Cuban cigars.
你有吗？
You got one?
我有一根。
I got one.
然后弄开盖子。
And then footwork top.
给你。
There you go.
所以他们有那种马多罗斯，还有各种各样的款式。
So they got, like, madoros and different kinds.
我刚开始接触雪茄，不太懂行。
I'm, like, new into the cigars.
这些是FunkMaster牌的。
And these are the FunkMaster.
这个可能没电了。
That might be dead.
给。
Here.
不好意思。
I'm sorry.
这个已经没电了。
This one's dead.
这个不错。
This one's good.
杰米，你抽雪茄吗？
Jamie, you smoke cigars?
不抽。
No.
真可惜。
Damn.
杰米这人说话特别直。
Jamie's strictly blunt.
哦。
Oh.
不过现在他得收手了，毕竟不想背上刑事犯罪的名声。
But now he's gotta stop because he doesn't wanna be a felon.
这儿可不行。
Can't do it here.
他得跨州去。
He's gotta cross state lines.
他得
He's gotta
去俄克拉荷马州弄点大麻。
go to Oklahoma and get high.
你真的会这么做吗？
Do you do you actually?
一天抽一支。
One once a day.
对。
Yeah.
他坐飞机过去。
He takes a flight.
去俄克拉荷马州西南部。
Southwest Oklahoma.
抽几口大麻烟，然后坐飞机回去。
Get some bong rips and hops back on a plane.
这个不错。
This is good.
这个非常好。
This is very good.
所以对他们的反馈一直很好。
So the feedback on them has been great.
它们是优质的雪茄。
They're good quality cigars.
他们从制作雪茄的人那里拿货，然后让他们为我们制作不同的系列。
They make it from, like, people that make them, and they get them to make our own different, like, lines of them.
挺酷的。
Pretty cool.
但我喜欢它们。
But I like them.
嗯，我们以前在迈阿密演出。
Well, we used to perform in Miami.
那里有个地方你可以去。
There was a place that you could go.
我们可以看他们手工卷雪茄，然后他们会卖给你手工卷的雪茄。
We could watch them hand roll cigars, and they'd sell you cigars, like, hand rolled.
那真的很酷。
It was pretty dope.
你看那些女士，把一切都卷好。
You watch these ladies, like, roll everything out.
她们拿那把长刀，把它切开。
They get that long knife, and they slice it up.
然后她们
And they
你自己卷的？
You rolled yourself?
没有。
Have you No.
没有。
No.
没有。
No.
他们在迈阿密教我们怎么卷雪茄。
They taught us how to roll down in Miami.
我可不想搞砸这件事。
I don't wanna ruin it.
我也不想瞎折腾自己，给自己找麻烦。
I don't wanna do brain surgery on myself either.
特别有意思。
It's fun.
找个专业的人来就好。
Get an expert.
总得有内行来做这件事吧。
Some somebody's gotta be good at this.
对的。
Mhmm.
你这里也有朗姆酒的酒痕呢
You got a a rum line too.
对吧？
Right?
对的。
Mhmm.
就这些吗？
Is that it?
你脖子上戴的是Funk Harbor？
Funk Harbor around your neck?
没错，就是Funk Harbor，太酷了。
Funk Harbor, baby.
说得好。
At you.
我现在有钱了，乔。
I got money now, Joe.
你知道那首歌吗？
You know that song?
老娘现在有钱了。
Bitch, I got money now.
我本来该带上我的记号笔的。
I I was supposed to bring my sharpie.
我不确定你是不是想要签个名之类的，不过当然可以。
I I don't know if you wanted it, like, signed or whatever, but sure.
而且我们还拿了好几块奖牌什么的。
But we won multiple medals and things like that.
所以是好几块奖牌。
So Multiple medals.
比赛也有奖牌之类的。
There's medals for Like competitions.
对。
Yeah.
锦标赛吗？
For rums?
对。
Yeah.
这次我们有两个双响炮的目标。
We got two double goals for this.
我们要冲击两枚银牌。
We got two double goals for the silver.
Jamie，你能帮我们拿点冰块和杯子吗？
Jamie, can you get us some ice cubes and some glasses?
咱们好好庆祝一番吧，Aljamain。
Let's fucking party, Aljamain.
然后我们要去那个母的玩意儿。
Then we're gonna go to the mother shit.
顺便说，我很喜欢那个名字。
I I love that name, by the way.
谢谢。
Thank you.
对。
Yeah.
我们一直在想给它取什么名字。
We were trying to figure out what to call it.
我们有很多不同的，你知道，Mitzi Shore，那个经营喜剧商店的女士，对。
We had a bunch of different you know, Mitzi Shore, that lady who ran the Comedy Store Yeah.
上面那幅画。
The painting up there.
那就是她。
That's her.
她是喜剧屋的创始人兼老板。
She was the the owner and founder of the Comedy Store.
她以前常说，那些喜剧演员简直就是‘疯子管理疯人院’。
She used to say about the comedians, the inmates are running the asylum.
所以我们本来想叫它‘疯人院’，但我觉得这名字有点土。
So we were gonna call it the asylum, but I thought that sounds corny.
确实有点土。
A little corny.
这名字有点意思。
There's something about it.
感觉就像在说，哎呀，我们挺疯的。
It's like a little like, oh, we're crazy.
你懂吧？
You know?
然后我就想，这跟罗恩·怀特有什么关系呢？他可是第一个走这条路线的人。
And then I thought, well, what is this one of the things that Ron White he was the first route.
罗恩·怀特是第一个搬到这里的人。
Ron White was the first guy to move here.
你知道的，我在洛杉矶跟他很熟。
And, you know, I knew Ron real well from LA.
罗恩说，你知道的，他很喜欢这里。
And Ron said, you know, I love it.
因为这里位于国家中心地带。
It's in the middle of the country.
你可以飞过去。
You could fly out.
怎么了？
What's the matter?
你要来一个吗，杰米？
You want one, Jamie?
我得工作。
I got work.
你有活儿要干。
You got work to do.
它不会跟我们一起被砸的。
It won't get hammered with us.
他说这里在美国中部。
He was it's in the middle of the country.
他可以飞出去。
He could fly out.
到纽约大概三小时，到洛杉矶也三小时。
It's only, like, three hours New York, three hours LA.
太完美了。
It's perfect.
我当时就想，那就像母舰一样，然后你可以飞出去。
And I was like, well, that would be like the mothership, and then you could fly out.
你所有的船都可以飞到公司的不同地方，但那是你的基地。
All your all your ships could fly to different parts of the company, but that would be your base.
母舰就是基地。
The mothership would be the base.
我觉得，哇，那太酷了。
I'm like, oh, that's That's pretty cool.
而且，显然，我对外星人很着迷。
Plus, obviously, I'm obsessed with aliens.
我以为就是那个。
That's what I thought it was.
当然。
Of course.
对。
Yeah.
我是说，我也不知道为什么，就是很着迷。
I mean, I'm obsessed for whatever reason.
哪一个？
Which one?
深色还是浅色？
Dark or light?
有什么区别吗？
What's the difference?
这款是我们的限量版。
So this one's our limited edition.
上面印着数字1。
It's got the number one on it.
我们会陆续推出一些不一样的款式。
We're gonna be coming out with some different ones.
我们目前正在做品牌升级。
We're actually going through a rebrand right now.
这款陈酿了二到五年，但原料都来自牙买加。
This one's aged two to five years, but they're all Jamaican origin.
这款是在热带阳光下熟成的。
This one's aged under the tropical sun.
没陈年的就是银朗酒。
Unaged is a silver.
我们来开那瓶热带阳光陈酿的。
We'll bust out that aged under the tropical sunshine.
这款用的是波本威士忌桶。
This one, use ex bourbon cask.
所以如果你喜欢波本，这酒喝起来会很棒。
So the drink's really nice if you like bourbon.
哦，好的。
Oh, okay.
它有点……我不想说是甜的，但喝起来没那么冲。
It's a little bit it's like I don't wanna say sweet, but it's not as harsh when you drink it.
你平时喜欢喝朗姆酒吗？
Are you a rum guy?
那是你的最爱吗？
Is that your thing?
这就是你开朗姆酒公司的原因吗？
Is that why you started a rum company?
对。
Yes.
你一直都很
You've always been
喜欢喝朗姆酒吗？
a rum guy?
我爸妈是牙买加人。
My parents are from Jamaica.
所以我想……
So I want to
我是意大利裔，但我讨厌格拉帕酒。
use are from Italy, but I hate grappa.
那玩意儿真难喝。
That shit's nasty.
格拉帕酒才难喝呢。
Grappa's not That's fucking nasty.
那玩意儿真难喝。
That stuff's nasty.
我要拿大的那个。
I'm gonna take the big one.
好嘞。
Alright.
干杯，先生。
Cheers, sir.
你们觉得呢？
What do you guys say?
干杯。
Salut.
干杯。
Salut.
我还以为你们在意大利说的是别的呢。
I thought you guys said something else in Italy.
我不知道。
I don't know.
我刚回来。
Do I just got back.
我上周还在那儿呢。
I was just there last week.
对。
Yeah.
两周前？
Two weeks ago?
对。
Yeah.
两周前。
Two weeks ago.
那地方特别棒，
It was it's awesome.
我特别喜欢那儿。
I love it there.
我们还没去过呢。
We still haven't gone.
我们太想去那里了。
We wanna go so bad.
哎呀，兄弟。
Oh, bro.
如果你想吃的话，就去那家吧。
If you wanna eat, that's the place.
意大利面。
Pasta.
我最近听大家都在聊这个。
I just hear everybody talking about it.
我当时就想，我特别想那样做。
Was like, I would love to do that.
我胖了三磅。
I gained three pounds.
我除了碳水化合物什么都没吃。
I ate nothing but carbs.
我吃了好多好多东西。
I ate so much food.
我每天晚上都吃到撑得难受。
I I ate till I was hurting every night.
我当时就想，我完全不管饮食了。
I was like I was like, I'm gonna ignore my diet completely.
我每天都锻炼，但我就是想着，我完全不管饮食了，就为了开心而吃。
I I worked out every day, but I was like, I'm gonna ignore my diet completely and just just eat for pleasure.
不过也没那么糟啦。
But it's not as bad, though.
其实没那么伤身体。
The it's not as bad for you.
食物本身也没那么糟糕。
The food is not as bad.
不过等一下。
But wait.
但热量就是热量啊。
Calories are calories, though.
但主要是分量太多了。
But It's just the volume.
我就是个贪吃鬼。
I'm a glutton.
我吃了两个披萨。
I ate two pizzas.
我还吃了蛤蜊意面。
I ate linguine with clams.
我吃了布拉塔奶酪和番茄，我还吃了别的什么来着？
I had burrata and and and tomatoes, and I also had what else do I have?
哦，还有一堆面包片。
Something oh, a bunch of pieces of bread.
我一顿饭就吃了这么多。
I ate so much in one setting.
那天晚上回到家，我们坐下来休息的时候，我感觉自己根本动不了了。
Then I got home that night when we sat back, and I was like, I can't move.
就是我吃撑到那种程度了，你见过那些吃太多的狮子吗？
Like, I'm I've eaten myself to a place where I'm like you ever see one of those lions that eats too much?
吃完之后就只会瘫在那儿不动。
They just lie.
我当时就是这么个状态。
That's how I felt.
相信我。
Trust me.
那其实是我135磅的时候。
That that was more those were my one thirty five days.
比赛一结束，我就开始吃。
As soon as the fight's over, I'm going in.
对。
Right.
我记得有一次我在Apex碰到你，我问你多重。
I remember one time I ran into you at the apex, and I was like, what do you weigh?
你说176磅。
And you said one seventy six.
我当时觉得太不可思议了。
I was like, that's crazy.
是的。
Yeah.
你得减掉40磅。
You gotta lose 40 pounds.
太离谱了。
That's crazy.
最神奇的是，当我减到四十五公斤的时候，我反而比平时走路时的体重还要轻。
The fascinating part is when I went up to forty five, I got down and I was lighter in my natural walking around weight.
你的饮食习惯还是跟我以前一样没变。
You're still eating the same way I always did.
我平时走动的时候大概在一百六十八磅左右，有时候是一百六十六到一百七十二磅之间。
And I was walking around about hundred and sixty eight, sometimes sixty six to about one seventy two.
我就觉得，跟135磅的时候比，我现在轻了这么多，这逻辑完全说不通。
And I'm like, this is doesn't even make any sense how much lighter I am from one thirty five.
而且，为了凑体重而焦虑的感觉也少了很多。
And then just less anxiety about making the weight.
没错，你的身体也没那么拼命地囤积水分了。
That too Your body didn't hold on to it as much.
对。
Yeah.
所以身体好像能感觉到发生了什么，就像，哦，这次减重更轻松。
So the body kinda just recognizes what's happening like, oh, this is a nicer weight cut.
对。
Yeah.
你现在很健康。
You're healthy now.
对。
Yeah.
虽然还是在减重。
Even though it's still a weight cut.
我想说，但我上周刚查了体重，其实，两天前从家里回来的时候。
I was gonna say, but I just checked my weight last week when I got well, actually, two days ago when I got back from my house.
你至少有一百七十磅。
You're at least one seventy.
我比那还重。
I'm heavier than that.
一百七十五？
One seventy five?
不到。
North.
八十？
Eighty?
一百八？
One eighty?
我当时体重是78公斤。
I was seventy eight.
那是我上次称体重的时候。
That's when I checked.
而且我看起来也不胖。
And I didn't look fat.
当时就觉得，这太离谱了。
I was like, this is crazy.
这事情又发生了。
It's happening again.
一切都在重演。
It's happening all over again.
有些人就是搞不懂。
There's people that don't understand it.
比如，我还得跟我那些普通朋友解释清楚。
Like, I have to explain to my normie friends.
大家都纳闷，他怎么减了那么多体重？
They're like, how does he lose all that weight?
他本来也没多少肉可减。
He doesn't have anything to lose.
我说，你这是把肌肉都练没了。
I'm like, well, you're sucking your muscles dry.
这也太离谱了。
That's what's crazy.
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