樱桃大战

顺便说一下，我上去了

By the way, I went up

终于到了凯南，犯罪现场。

there finally to Kainan to the scene of the crime.

没人把灯挂上

Nobody had put up

灯。

the lights.

赛斯，我明明被承诺过他们会把灯挂上，而且

Seth, I've been promised that they would, and

谁会跟你做出这样的承诺？

Who who would make that promise to you?

某个以为你会……我的妻子。

Somebody who thought you were gonna My wife.

我和我妻子。

Me and my wife.

我觉得，这正是你对一个永远无法回来亲眼看到的人才会许下的承诺。

I feel like that's the only promise you make to somebody who's never gonna make it back to look at it.

我的意思是，我以为这个承诺应该是再也不会有人试图在那里挂灯了。

I mean, I thought the promise would be no one will ever try to hang lights there ever again.

我得告诉你，赛斯，我一看到那串灯还挂在那儿没挂上去，就立刻想再回去一趟。

I I I gotta tell you, Seth, the minute I saw it, like a strand of lights sitting there not being put up, I wanted to get back up there immediately.

你还没学到所谓的约姆的教训。

You have you have not learned what's known as Jorm's lesson.

没有。

No.

是这么叫的吗？

Is that what it's called?

是的。

Yeah.

凯夫

Keeve

在我们播客的术语里？

in the parlance of our podcast?

Keeve，恭喜你获得评论家选择奖提名。

Keeve, congrats on your Critics Choice nomination.

哦，谢谢。

Oh, well, thank you.

上一期播客里提到过。

Mentioned in the last pod.

同样恭喜你，Seth。

Right back at you, Seth.

天哪。

Oh my god.

谢谢，Kev。

Thanks, Kev.

你省得我不得不自己提这件事了。

You spared me the indignity of having to mention it myself.

今天我状态不错。

And I got solid today.

哦，不错。

Oh, nice.

谢谢。

Thanks.

获得提名真的是一种荣誉。

It's a real it is an honor to be nominated.

我觉得吧，我可不想惹什么不吉利的事。

I feel like well, I don't wanna throw a jinx on anything.

我们根本没希望，但我就是喜欢拿到这种老提名。

We got no shot, but I like getting the old nomination.

关于最后一部分，我想说的最后一件事是，我觉得我笑得最厉害的是安迪的‘去死吧，玛丽’。

My last thing I wanna say about the last part, I laughed the hardest, I think, at Andy's Fuck Mary, Kill.

那不是冬天。

It wasn't Winter

士兵？

Soldier?

是的，是。

It was

是冬日战士、面条臂、注射血清前的美国队长，还有一个美女。

it was Winter Soldier, noodle arms, Captain America before the serum, and a hot lady.

这真难选。

That's a tough one.

即使现在，我也只是觉得：哦，别让我选了。

Even now, I'm I'm it's just like, oh, don't make me choose.

是的。

Yeah.

面条臂也是安迪的典型说法。

I do noodle arms is such a Andy phrase too.

这真是，非常

It's it's very It's

最好的。

the best.

是的。

Yeah.

真的很好。

It's really good.

面条手臂。

Noodle arms.

是的。

Yeah.

他经常说面条手臂。

He said noodle arms a lot.

我们需要

Do we need

快速补录一段话，在节目开头说明安迪今天不在节目里吗？

to quickly do a little pickup where we say Andy's not on the pod today at the top of the show?

我认为他们

I think they

那我为什么不在我的衣橱里用音质差的录音来做这段开场白呢？

Well, why don't I do the pickup later in my closet with bad audio?

好的。

Okay.

太好了。

Great.

直接进来，突然说：塞思打断一下，说安迪不在节目里。

Just come in and all of a sudden be like, Seth interrupting here to say Andy's nod on the hall.

哦。

Oh.

但我想我可能知道他为什么这么难安排了。

But I think I might know why he's been so hard to schedule.

杰克·布莱克，快一点。

Jack Black, real quick.

拼写B。

Spelling b.

拼写B。

Spelling b.

安迪最近在老B上有点状态不好。

Andy's on a bit of a bad tear in the old b.

我可以告诉你，今天他撂了五个短差，昨天他撂了七个短差？

I can I can tell you that today, he bailed five short, and yesterday, he bailed seven short?

哦，难怪。

Oh, no wonder.

是因为他工作上的事压力大吗？

Is this because he's stressed about work stuff?

我知道他最近有点压力。

I know he's been a little stressed right now.

哦，我不确定，我觉得他可能是因为撂了七个短差，又撂了五个短差才压力大的。

Oh, I I don't I think that he might be stressed cause he bailed seven short and he bailed five short.

你的意思是，他的压力影响了他的拼字比赛表现，但我认为正是拼字比赛的失败让他感到压力。

Like, you think his stress is getting in the way of his spelling bee, but I think his spelling bee failures are making Yeah.

他显得很紧张

Him seem stressed

这很难说。

That's difficult to say.

今天有人问我一个特别具体的问题，在我的问答环节中，有人提到了奎德陆军。

Oh, somebody today, I got a real specific question, which during my q and a, somebody, you know, they opened Quaid Army.

我给了他一个漂亮的击杀。

I gave him a righteous kill.

他们说：我想向在场的其他人道歉。

And they said, I wanna apologize to everybody else here.

我有个关于《纽约时报》游戏的非常具体的问题。

I have a hyper specific question about New York Times games.

我说：太好了。

And I said, great.

他们说，当安迪清理蜜蜂时，这意味着他一点提示都没用吗？

And they said, when Andy clean bees, does that mean he didn't do any hints at all?

我当时就说，没错。

And I was like, that is correct.

然后整个房间的人都在说，这到底发生什么事了？

And then it was just like everybody in the room being like, what the hell is going on?

顺便说一下，我们之前在播客里讨论过这个，但我不认为完全如此。

But by the way, we've covered this on the pod, and I don't think that's entirely true.

这是他自己的规则。

It's his own set of rules.

哦，百分之百。

Like, Oh, a 100%.

他允许自己知道总共有多少个单词的提示。

He allows himself the hint of how many words are there total.

对。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

而且我认为

And I think

有些人会认为那是一种提示。

some people would consider that a hint.

他说自己曾经几次做到完全干净、一丝提示都没有，但如果每天都这么做，会占去他一整生的时间。

He said he's gotten it absolutely clean, zero anything a few times, but that it would take up his entire life if he tried to do that every day.

他需要一个关于剩余单词数量的小小参数。

He needs a little bit of a parameter of how many words are left.

我觉得，他又是个天才。

I feel like, again, he is he's a savant.

今天我们请来了艾克·巴伦霍尔茨做节目，就像我向观众解释的那样，安迪在拼字游戏中的出色表现，就像艾克在《危险边缘》中的出色表现一样，这和你想象的不一样。

We had Ike Baronholtz on the show today, and as I explained to the audience, like, the way Andy is good at Spelling Bee is the way that Ike is really good at Jeopardy, is it's not what you would think.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

他赢得了名人《危险边缘》比赛。

He he won the celebrity Jeopardy.

他为慈善机构赢得了一百万美元。

He won a million bucks for a charity.

哦，哇。

Oh, wow.

比赛有电视转播。

It was televised.

你可以观看。

You can watch it.

是的。

Yeah.

这是多集节目，他必须赢得每一集才能进入决赛。

It's multiple episodes where he has to win each episode to get to the final one.

我告诉你，当年《危险边缘》播出时，我曾长时间和艾克在一起，夏天还和他住同一栋房子，早在他因参加名人版《危险边缘》而出名之前，他就是个《危险边缘》天才。

And I will tell you from having spent a lot of time in Ike's company when Jeopardy aired, like spending summers living in the same, house as him, he was a Jeopardy savant years before he got a chance to be famous enough to be on Celebrity Jeopardy.

他是不是也赢过《谁想成为百万富翁》？

Did he win Who Wants to Be a Millionaire as well?

他赢过。

He did.

他和他爸爸一起赢的。

He won it with his dad.

哇哦。

Wow.

所以他两个都赢过了？

So he's done both?

是的。

Yeah.

他基本上就是个 trivia 天才。

He basically is, you know, trivia a savant.

是的。

Yeah.

我也差不多。

That's like me too.

没错。

Yep.

记忆力超群。

Steel trap.

对。

Yep.

我们接着聊下一件事吧。

Just move on to the next thing we're talking about.

你不是赢了《谁想成为百万富翁》吗？

You you won Who Wants to Be Here for a Nice Time?

是的。

Yep.

而且我

And I

你达到了最高级别。

You got to the top level.

我实际上在那个上面只取得了中等成绩。

I got I got I a middling middling results on that, actually.

所以是的。

So Yeah.

我有很多问题要读，但我们也应该直接搞定樱桃对决吗？

I've got a lot of questions to read, but also, should we just, like, knock out Cherry Battle?

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

我们这么做只是觉得奇怪，因为安迪不在，但说实话，这主意是我提的，不是他的。

It's only weird for us to do it because Andy's not here because it I mean, it was my idea, so it's not like it was his.

但那时候，约姆，你那周在场吗？

But it was like, Jorm, were you there that week?

哦，我在啊，老兄。

Oh, I was there, man.

就像《麦格伯》那会儿。

Like, MacGruber time.

你当时在场。

You were there.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

在场。

Was there.

但我们有没有展示过我们要做

But did we show are we gonna do

就只是没有他吗？

it just without him?

我们来快速进行一场樱桃对决吧

Let's just do a quick Cherry Battle

好的。

Okay.

然后进入问答环节。

And then go into a q and a.

嗯，我跟你说，这跟很多其他情况很相似。

Well, I'll tell you, it was similar to a lot of these.

我想是周四晚上，但也许其实是周三晚上。

It was, I think, Thursday night, but maybe it was Wednesday night.

我和安迪会共乘一辆网约车，因为我们住得只隔一个街区。

Me and Andy would share a car service, cause we lived like a block away from each other.

而且就在最后一段路。

And it was in, like, the last block.

我有一个非常清晰的记忆，当时是凌晨三点三十，快四点了，因为我们一直在想办法。

I have a very, very distinct memory, and it was, like, 03:30, 4AM because we've been trying to think of something.

就在车停到我家门口的瞬间，我突然想到：如果我们用幽灵相机拍下画面，把它扔到地上，再做超慢动作，然后倒放，是不是看起来就像你们从不可思议的远距离把樱桃吐进对方嘴里？

And all of a sudden, right as it was pulling up to my house, I was just like, what if we use the Phantom camera from my threw it on the ground again, do super slow mo, and put it all in reverse so it looks like you guys are spitting cherries into each other's mouths from impossibly far lengths?

他回答说：是的。

And he was like, yeah.

我当时就说：哦，好吧。

And I was like, oh, okay.

然后我们下车后，第二天一早就早早开工，把整个想法付诸实践。

And then we just got out, and then we got to work early the next day to just put it all in motion.

我想我写了

Think I wrote

一些邮件。

some emails.

解释一下你的想法，为什么？为什么？

Explain your, like, your thought process of, like, why why?

为什么是这个点子？

Why did why that idea?

你知道那是什么感觉。

You know how it is.

你知道，当我们连续三天拼命想一个短片点子，还熬到很晚。

You know, when we've just been trying to think of a short idea for three days straight and staying up way too late.

是的。

Yeah.

我的意思是，我肯定我们在那之前连续三天都这样熬着。

And I mean, I'm sure we did for three days, like, up to up into that point.

没错。

Like Exactly.

因为我觉得可能是周四晚上。

Because I think it might have been even Thursday night.

我不记得是哪天了。

I don't know what night.

那是在周末的时候。

It was late in the week.

我真的不知道。

And I have no idea.

我们通常会在周一开始这个过程，至少试着让自己的大脑撞墙，你知道的，是的。

We would we would start that process on Mondays usually, like, of, like, at least trying to smash our brains against a rock, like, you know Yeah.

有时候它

And sometimes it

会成功，

would work,

有时候就不会。

and sometimes it didn't.

如果周一想到这个点子，它还不够好，让你立刻觉得‘就是它了’。

It's not a good enough idea that if you came up with it on Monday, you'd go, that's it.

对。

Right.

只有到了最后一刻，你才需要一个能让你说‘好吧’的东西。

It takes it being at the last minute where you just need something where you can go, okay.

我们来试试这个。

Let's give that a go.

是的。

Yeah.

顺便说一下，这是我最喜欢的几个有点偏门的短片之一。

And by the way, this is one of my more favorite ish off center shorts.

里面有一个时刻，我想问问Keev，你今天看过它吗？

There's a there is a moment in it where I wonder, Keev, have you watched it today?

没有。

No.

我现在就打开来看，这样我们可以好吧。

I I'm pulling it up right now, so we can Okay.

我打赌那里有什么，但我不是那种人。

I bet there's something I I'm not this kind of guy.

有一个镜头让我很困扰，基夫。

There's a shot that bothers me, Keef.

哦。

Oh.

有意思。

Interesting.

所以，再说一遍，把镜头扔到地上，我想我们当时是在你的舞台上。

Well so, again, like, throw it on the ground, we we were, I think, on your stage.

赛斯，你现在能表演你的节目吗？

Seth, will you do your show now?

天啊。

Oh my god.

是的。

Yeah.

为了能以每秒500帧的速度拍摄并看清所有细节，我们不得不使用超强的灯光。

And we had to blast so much light for it to shoot at 500 frames a second to be able to see everything.

当时特别热，因为我们用了这么多灯，温度飙升。

Like, it was boiling hot because we have all these lights, and it's getting so hot.

而且有些地方很难看清，而且

And it was a little hard to see certain things and

厚重的服装。

Heavy costume.

是的。

Yeah.

我们并没有完全规划好它会是什么样子，因为我们也不知道它到底能不能成功。

We didn't quite have a plan, a total plan of what it was gonna be, because we didn't know if it was even gonna work.

这绝对是实验性的。

It was definitely experimental.

但我记得编剧布莱恩·塔克在播出后或《礼服》之后说过一些非常暖心的话，让我印象深刻——当你听到别人的意见时，它就会变成你的看法。

But I do remember Brian Tucker, the writer, after it aired or after Dress, saying something really nice that stuck with me that kind of made it you know, when you hear someone else's opinion, it becomes your opinion.

他很善意地说：你们手里还是有些绝活的。

In the nice way, he was just like, You guys still have some tricks up your sleeve.

这根本就跟你以前做的任何东西都不一样，即使是在这么后期的时候。

Like, this was nothing like anything you did before, even this late in the game.

而且我当时觉得这正是我想说的

And I that was kind of what I

是的。

Yeah.

不错。

Nice.

我想，没错，确实如此。

I went, Yeah, it was.

很好。

Good.

因此，因为这一点，我对它怀有深厚的感情。

And so I have a fond feeling of it because of that.

尤其是来自塔克的这种评价，也很棒。

That's also nice coming from Tucker too, especially.

我一直以来都信任他对各种事情的看法。

I I did always trust his opinion on shit.

这部剧播出时我就非常喜欢。

I liked this very much when it aired.

今天再看一遍，我还是非常喜欢。

I liked it very much watching it again today.

我也有同样的感觉。

I felt the same way.

而且，我特别喜欢观众笑的方式，因为有些人真的被逗得很开心，而且一直觉得好笑。

Also, I really like the way the audience is laughing at it because certain people are really tickled by it, and they stay tickled by it.

这也很棒，因为它不是适合所有人，但对很多人来说，他们就是非常享受它。

And that's a nice thing as well, which is it's not for everybody, but for a lot of people, were just enjoying it so much.

在我们做的所有事情中，这可能是最接近艺术的，我们当时想，如果你在博物馆，嗯。

Of everything we did, this is maybe the closest to art, We're like, if you were at Yeah.

在现代艺术博物馆里，你一间一间地逛，然后突然看到一个播放奇怪视频的房间，你会想：这是什么？

MoMA, and you were going through the different rooms, and then there's the one that's playing a weird video, and you're like, what is this?

你可以坐在其中一个软垫的方形小凳上，稍作停留，看着它——画面里两个人在超慢动作中吐樱桃，你会想，

And you can sit on one of those padded, you know, square stools for a second, and you look at it, and it's two people spitting cherries in super slow one, and you're like,

这确实没错。

That's very true.

我曾经看过一个展览，展示的是石头在慢动作中从山坡上滚落，我当时就觉得，这太吸引人了。

I once saw an exhibit of just rocks falling down a hill in slow mo, and I was like, this is captivating.

所以是的。

So yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

所以，你知道的。

So, you know.

我不确定你

I don't know if you

你们有没有看过我的那部关于玛丽娜·阿布拉莫维奇的纪录片集。

guys ever saw my documentary now episode that was based on Marina Abramovich.

哦，天啊。

Oh, god.

是的。

Yeah.

那个和她在一起的女人

The the woman who's With there

凯特·布兰切特？

Kate Blanchett?

我确实看过，但记得不太清楚了。

I definitely did, but I don't remember it very well.

但我记得它很不错。

But it was I remember it being good.

但我最近参加了一个活动，真正的玛丽娜·阿布拉莫维奇也在那里。

But I was at an event recently, and the real Marina Abramovich was there.

我当时就想，管他呢。

And I had this moment of like, fuck it.

也许我就试试。

Maybe I'll just try.

于是我走过去，说：嘿。

I So walked over and go, hey.

我不知道你有没有看过那个和凯特·布兰切特有关的东西，但那是我写的。

I don't know if you ever saw this thing with Kate Blanchett, but I wrote that.

她给出了绝对的加分反应。

And it was the absolute a plus reaction from her.

意思是她

Meaning She

她看过并且很喜欢。

had she had seen it and loved it.

太好了。

Oh, great.

是的。

Yeah.

我以为你说的是，只是那种盯着你脑袋看的意思。

I thought you meant, like, just like just staring through your head.

完全没错。

Totally.

但她说了类似这样的话：你有一种巴尔干式的幽默感。

But she she said, like, I I something along the lines of, like, you have a Balkan sense of humor.

太棒了。

Fantastic.

这太棒了。

That's fantastic.

这是极高的赞誉。

A real high praise.

本节目由Airbnb赞助播出，节目为孤独的岛乐队和赛斯·迈耶斯的播客。

Support for the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast comes from Airbnb.

现在刚过感恩节，奶奶和爷爷，也就是我的岳父母，刚来过城里。

Now it's just past Thanksgiving here, and grandma and grandpa, my in laws, were just in town.

但因为我们家里没空房间，他们通过Airbnb找了一处房子住。

But because we don't have room in our house, they used Airbnb to find a house to stay at.

你们俩都去看过那地方了。

Now you both visited it.

它就在附近。

It was nearby.

和住酒店相比，有哪些特别好的地方呢？

What were some of the great parts about it that was different from

如果你们去他们住酒店的话？

if you were visiting them at a hotel?

那里有一个非常棒的私人户外露台。

It had a very nice private outdoor patio.

里面还有他们自己的电视和多个房间。

And on the inside, they had, like, their own TV, many rooms.

他们还有厨房。

They had the kitchen.

他们有自己的客厅。

They had their own living room.

他们有自己的卧室。

They had their own bedroom.

而且他们还有一个额外的房间，我想。

And they had, I think, maybe an extra room.

我没看到。

I didn't see it.

那浴室呢？

What about bathrooms?

浴室的情况怎么样？

What was the bathroom situation?

嗯，非常舒适且私密。

Well, very nice and private.

但我真正喜欢的是空间特别大，而且我们有很好的隐私。

But what I really liked was just how much extra space and how we had, like, privacy.

所以当我去看他们的时候，我不用担心自己会太吵。

So when I visited them, I didn't have to worry about, like, being too loud.

我可以随便疯玩、大喊大叫。

I could, like, go crazy and lair.

你还可以跳过前台的登记流程，不用说‘我们的祖父母住在这里’。

You also get to skip the receptionist at the beginning to say, oh, our grandparents are staying here.

我们只是来探望他们。

We are here to visit them.

你直接跳过整个流程，敲门就能直接进去。

You just skip that whole process, you're just gonna knock on the door and go right in.

那厨房呢？

What about the kitchen?

这太好了，因为酒店没有厨房。

It's so nice because hotels don't have kitchens.

是的。

Yeah.

我有一个功能良好的冰箱和水槽。

I had a nicely working refrigerator, sink.

那里已经准备好了盘子和碗。

There were already plates and bowls there.

所以我到那儿后，吃了一些新鲜的蓝莓。

So when I got there, I ate some fresh blueberries.

那么，下次我们用Airbnb找房子时，如果想通过让别人租住我们的房子来抵消费用，你怎么看？

Now what would you think of next time we were using Airbnb to find a house and then we wanted to offset that money by letting people use our house for Airbnb?

我们确实有一些朋友这么做。

We actually have some friends who do that.

他们在湖箭湖有一栋不错的房子，但只偶尔去一次，所以他们让别人住进去。

They have a nice house in Lake Arrowhead, and they only go there every now and then, so they let people stay there.

而且房子就在湖边。

And it's right by the lake.

额外的零花钱？我拿零花钱做什么用？

Little extra pocket money for what do I use my pocket money for?

零食。

Snacks.

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Your home might be worth more than you think.

前往 airbnb.com/host 了解具体能值多少。

Find out how much at airbnb.com/host.

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如果你不信，去问问阿基瓦。

If you don't believe me, ask Akiva.

你什么都没发进来？

You didn't send anything in?

太好了。

Great.

无壳，无限制。

No shells, no limits.

别在口味和便利性上克制自己。

Don't hold back on flavors or convenience.

我来告诉你我喜欢什么。

I'll tell you what I like.

就是吃很多开心果，至于我不喜欢什么，就是当我忘记藏壳的时候。

It's just eating a ton of pistachios, and I'll tell you what I don't like when I forget to hide the shells.

然后我妻子回家问我：你把所有的奇妙开心果都吃光了吗？

And then my wife comes home and says, did you eat all of the wonderful pistachios?

我会说：没有，我没吃。

And I say, no, I didn't.

然后她会问：那这些壳是从哪儿来的？

And then she'll say, well, where are all these shells from?

我会说：你猜得和我一样准。

And I'll say, your guess is as good as mine.

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Visit wonderfulpistachios.com to learn more.

好吧。

Alrighty.

好的。

Alright.

我会分享。

I'll I am sharing.

屏幕保护程序？

A screen saver?

哦，酷。

Oh, cool.

真实的特效。

A real effect.

是的。

Yeah.

他们为什么这么积极地支持，而且方式这么友好。

Why are they they're so on board in a lovely way.

已经很棒了。

It's already great.

嗯，音乐很有帮助。

Well, the music is helpful.

但他们说，哦，还不止一个。

But they're like, oh, even more than one.

哦。

Oh.

我喜欢它发出的轻微砰砰声。

I love the little thud sounds it's making.

是的。

Yeah.

记得我们确实得把樱桃挪过去，因为它们显然够不着。

Remember, we did have to we did have to move the cherries over because they weren't reaching, obviously.

真有趣，她是怎么做到的

It's really funny how they how she's able

把所有樱桃都接住的。

to catch them all.

而且它们好像在互相竞争。

And they're like they're versus each other.

是的。

Yeah.

但看起来它们是在合作。

But it seems like they're working together.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

就像，嗯，是的。

Like well, yeah.

这确实是一场战斗，但也许这场战斗是它们对抗樱桃。

It is a battle, but maybe the battle's them versus Cherries.

我不知道。

I don't know.

好。

Yeah.

真奇怪。

Weird.

很棒的安迪表情。

Great Andy faces.

是的。

Yeah.

他对那件事很生气。

He's angry about that.

所以现在要怎么办？

So now it's what's it gonna be?

哦，就一个。

Oh, just one.

对。

Right.

哦，对。

Oh, right.

现在是樱桃带着表情在唱歌。

Now Cherry with a face singing.

对。

Yeah.

真可爱。

It's lovely.

她不想吃这个。

She doesn't wanna eat it.

她不想吃那个。

She doesn't wanna eat that one.

那是乔姆在清晰地大喊。

It's Jorm yelling clearly.

你最不喜欢哪个镜头，塞斯？

What was your least favorite shot, Seth?

我当时正试图把它捡起来。

I was I was trying to pick it up.

是你的基辅烦恼吗？

Was your Kyiv peeve?

我最受不了基辅那场戏是，如果你往回看，有个镜头是安迪在单人镜头里一脸得意，然后突然切到广角，他正在尖叫。

My Kyiv peeve is if you go back, there's a moment where Andy looks smug in the single and then it cuts so wide and he's screaming.

哦。

Oh.

就在这之前

Right before

这个镜头？

this?

比如，更靠近结尾的部分。

Like, farther near closer to the end.

回到那种自我满足的单曲状态。

Go back to, like, a a self satisfied single.

这家伙是不是搞错了连续性，还是

This guy got the continuity or

那里。

there.

在这儿。

There.

在这儿。

There.

好吧。

Alright.

哦。

Oh.

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

当然。

Sure.

你知道那有什么有趣的地方吗？

You know what's interesting about that?

当然，这一切都是经过处理的。

Every piece of this is doctored, of course.

就像这样，对吧。

Like Right.

你知道的。

You know?

所以，我们本可以做出任何选择。

So I could've we could've made any choice.

并不是说，哦，是的。

It's not like, oh, it's yeah.

是因为他这么做了。

It's because he did that.

而且剪辑也太慢了。

Well, and the edit's so slow too.

并不是说我们有那么多镜头，得赶着剪完。

It's not like there was, like, so many shots that we were rushing through it.

我们从来没那样，没有。

Not like we ever No.

不。

No.

我们其实完全可以更早选择，甚至在这场戏中他的这一侧，对。

You're we easily could've chosen earlier even in this shot on his side Yeah.

然后直接写回他开始尖叫的时刻，以制造一个过渡的瞬间。

And just wrote it back to when he starts to scream to give you the a transitional moment.

是的。

Yeah.

很容易。

Easily.

我不知道我们为什么做了这个选择。

I don't know why we made that choice.

有可能我们在服装和空气之间剪掉了一些内容。

There's a chance we cut something out between dress and air.

我猜就是这样。

I bet that's it.

有可能。

There's a chance.

那就是

That's what

原因。

it was.

对。

Right.

因为他们在这些镜头里实际上从未同时出现过。

Because they're because they're never actually in these shots together.

对吧？

Right?

或者不是。

Or no.

他们有吗？

Were they?

不。

No.

比如，这真的是一个镜头吗？

Like, was this an actual shot?

这不是。

This wasn't.

对吧？

Right?

也许我们拍过一个他们面对面的镜头，但我怀疑，因为灯光问题。

Maybe maybe we did one where the two of them are facing each other, but I doubt it just for lighting wise.

我觉得我们没照亮那么大的空间。

I don't think we lit that big a space.

是的。

Yeah.

哦，没有。

Oh, no.

我们一定是为樱桃这么做的。

We must have for the cherry.

所以我们很可能拍了这个双人镜头，但我不确定，他们所做的动作并不是同时发生的。

So we probably did set up this two shot, but I don't but none of what they're doing is at the same time.

比如，他们并没有朝对方吐果核。

Like, they weren't spitting at each other.

其中一个人会躲开，然后

One of them would get out of the way and

吐出一大堆

spit a bunch

樱桃。

of cherries.

没错。

Exactly.

没错。

Exactly.

然后另一个也会躲开，吐出一大堆樱桃。

And then the other one would get out of way and spit a bunch of cherries.

我们当时就在想，这有没有可能，或者至少能不能勉强凑合着伪造成某种一致的效果？

And we were just like, is there or is this even gonna be vaguely aligned in a way that we could fake?

这很酷的地方在于，除了他看到时那个动画脸部，没有任何视觉特效。

What what's cool about this is there's no VFX except for the animated face when he sees.

我们根本没有用什么特效，所有东西都是在Mhmm里完成的。

There's no there like, we did this all in Mhmm.

Final Cut Pro。

Final Cut Pro.

我们用的是遮罩之类的东西，还有移动一些元素。

And we go with, like, masks and things like that and, like, moving things over.

只是把多个视频图层剪切开来，然后在空间里随意移动，几乎像拼贴画一样。

Just cutting up multiple, multiple layers of video and just moving them around on on a space, almost like a collage.

因为

Well, because

樱桃后面完全是黑色的。

it was just black behind the cherries.

是的。

Yeah.

因为照明条件的关系，当你在人身后放一堵大黑墙或窗帘时，通常会看到一些灰色的痕迹，那是光线照到的地方。

Because there was because of the lighting situation, the like, when you throw up, you know, a big black wall or or curtains behind people, usually, you see little bits of gray where light hits it.

但因为我们必须用很强的光，背景就变成了纯黑色。

But because we had to blast so much light, the background fell to pure black.

看起来

It looks

真的就是，那些在空中飞舞的樱桃，我们从六个不同拍摄片段里各挑一些樱桃，剪下来，想放哪儿就放哪儿。

really to just like, those cherries flying in the air, we would just grab from six different takes of six different cherries and just cut them and put them all wherever we wanted them.

这太棒了。

That's really good.

我现在有个问题。

Now I have a question.

你们是先有了这首歌吗？

Did you guys have the song first?

你们听到这首歌的时候，是不是觉得在那一刻，应该让樱桃们唱出这句歌词？

Did you listen to this song and say, oh, at that moment, we should animate the cherries singing that line?

没有。

No.

有首歌，非常著名，叫《哦，命运》吗？

There's that song, the really famous is it called o Fortuna?

你知道的，那首特别著名的，哦，爱我吧。

You know, the really famous, oh, so love me.

是的。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

我觉得在某个剪辑阶段，我们突然想到，这段应该配上一首听起来像那样的歌。

And I think at some point when we were editing, we were like, oh, this should be to a song that sounds like that.

然后我不记得了，约姆，是不是用了兆特克斯音乐？

And then I don't remember, Jorm, if it was a megatrax.

我不记得了，因为我觉得那个孩子出现在里面了。

I don't I don't remember because I because I feel like that kid was in it.

对吧？

Right?

但在你剪辑之前，你一定知道你要动画化那个唱歌的樱桃。

But you had to have known before you were editing that you were gonna animate the singing cherry.

或者

Or

什么？不。

what No.

那是在剪辑中途才决定的。

That was a midway through editing.

我们想到，如果这个家伙跟着歌曲哼唱会怎么样？

We went, what if this guy starts singing along to the song?

像是哦

Like Oh

我的天。

my god.

当时我们刚开始剪辑，还没有配乐，只是想着，好吧。

The order was just starting to edit with no music and just going, alright.

是的。

Yeah.

所有事情都同时发生了。

And it's all happening at once.

我在想，什么歌会很酷？

I'm going, what would be a cool song?

哦，就应该像那样。

Oh, it should be like that.

有人给我们找了十几首听起来像那样的歌，挑一首，然后开始根据那首音乐剪辑。

Somebody grabbing us, like, 10 songs that sound like that, choosing one, starting to edit to that music.

然后我们拿到了，我记得这是最后一刻的事，我特别开心。

And then we got I remember it was it was really last minute, and I was so happy.

有一位视觉特效人员，现在他们有一个团队，一屋子的视觉特效艺术家。

Somebody from a visual effect like, now they have a team, a room full of VFX artists.

我不知道是谁做的，但这个人确实是迈克·普尔和马特·杨斯会去求助的那种真正的视觉特效艺术家，他们的表现比我想象的要好得多。

This was I don't know who did it, but it was somebody that, you know, Mike Pool and Matt Youngs could ask for who was genuinely a VFX artist, and they did such a better job than I thought.

会不会是通过资深的艾莉团队介绍的呢？有可能？

Or was it somebody through senior Ellie's team, maybe, potentially?

我不这么认为。

I don't think so.

我不知道迪娜或者蕾切尔·林会不会记得这些细节。

I wonder if I wonder if Dina or or Rachel Lim would remember the details.

当他们看到这个时，会再联系我们。

And when they see this, they'll get back to us.

这可以放在下一幕，这样我们就能署名了。

It can be in the next act so we can credit.

但我记得那真的太临时了。

But I remember being it was so last minute.

可能是周六下午两点或三点，然后它又回来了，但效果太棒了。

It could have been two or three PM on Saturday, and then that came back, but it was it was so awesome.

而且有人得想办法找一个能跟着唱的孩子声音，我们最后几分钟居然做到了。

And somebody had to figure out how to get, like, a child voice that could sing along to it, and we managed to pull that off in the last few

小时。

hours.

因为那个其实是加到音轨里的吗？

Because because that got added to like, was actually added to the track?

是的。

Yes.

我不记得有这回事。

Like, I I don't remember that.

我真的不记得收到过这个。

I don't remember actually getting it.

而且我甚至不……我们确实把那个加到了音轨里，我都不确定我们是不是也把一些音乐部分加进去了。

And I don't even I we definitely added to the track, and I'm not even sure if we added some of the music to the track there too.

比如，还牵扯到了音乐部门，然后我们就说，等等。

Like, involved the music department, and we're like, wait.

你能在这里加一小段过渡吗？

Can you create a little bridge right here?

这一切都是……它

It was all It

如果我们是从一个更偏向Megatrex风格的地方拿到它，那倒是说得通。

would kinda make sense if we got it from a a more megatrex y kind of place.

是的。

Yeah.

但你知道，当时一切都非常、非常仓促。

But then, you know, it was all very, very last minute.

但在我看来，这完全说不通。

But in my opinion, it doesn't make any sense.

但是，

But,

是的，这是艺术。

yeah, it's art.

我的意思是，我喜欢为那个角色配的配音。

I mean, I do like my VO for for the guy.

嘿，伙计们，怎么样？

What's up, fellas?

我是安迪。

Andy here.

资深脱口秀主持人，首次出演奎德。

Long time shock jock, first time Quaid.

老实说，我不知道。

I I honestly, I don't know.

总之，我们开始吧。

Anyway, let's get to it.

来吧，杰克·布莱克。

Hit us, Jack Black.

拼字比赛。

Spelling bee.

拼字比赛。

Spelling bee.

是的。

Yeah.

所以答案是我清掉了QueenBee。

So the answer is I got QueenBee clean.

砰砰砰砰砰，打你脸上，赛斯。

Pew pew pew pew pew in your face, Seth.

你根本听不到这个，因为我是录完播客后才补录的。

You're not even hearing this because I'm recording it after the pod.

所以你可能要等到这个内容发布时才能听到，因为我们现在已经晚了。

So you're probably not gonna hear this until this comes out because we're late in the game now.

他们会在一切都被整理妥当、准备交付之后，直接插播这段内容。

They're just gonna pop this on after everything's been, like, smoothed out and ready for delivery.

然后你可能会在生命最后一刻，我不知道你的寿命有多长，才发现我赢了QueenBee，而你没有，你是个输家，而我才是王者。

And then you're gonna find out in the eleventh hour, maybe of your entire life, I don't know what your life expectancy is, that I got queen bee and you didn't, and you're a loser and I reign supreme.

樱桃大战。

Cherry Battle.

我记得那时候我们一无所有，却被要求必须搞一个。

I remember we had nothing, and we were told we had to do one.

那是其中一周。

It was one of those weeks.

我和阿基瓦住得很近，周四晚上很晚才开车出发。

Me and Akiva lived really near each other, and we left late Thursday night in a car.

我们经常共用车辆，为节目省点钱，因为我们很体贴。

We shared cars together often to save a buck or 2 for the show because we were thoughtful.

然后就在我们刚下车的时候，我们聊了聊，是不是再用一次那种超慢动作的幽灵镜头效果。

And then I feel like right as we were getting out of the car, we had a conversation that was like, maybe do, like, that super slow mo phantom camera thing again.

我们只是不停地把樱桃互相吐来吐去。

And we're just like spitting cherries back and forth.

我们都开始咯咯笑起来，然后说，嗯，差不多够了。

And we both started kinda giggling and we were like, yeah, that's probably enough.

然后我们会想办法让这更有趣一些。

And then we'll just figure out ways to make it more interesting.

我想我们当时就决定，干脆搞成类似角斗士的主题，加上强烈的戏剧感，那样应该就够了。

And I think we even right there, we're like, we'll make it kinda like a a gladiator kind of theme and give it like high drama, and that might be enough.

我觉得事情就是这样发生的，但这是我的记忆。

And I think that was kinda how it happened, but that was my memory.

然后拍摄过程超级有趣，我们不断往里加新点子。

And then the shoot was super fun, and we started adding ideas to it.

我最喜欢的部分，毫无疑问，就是最后一颗樱桃被吐出去时，镜头拉到超近景，它突然用像唱诗班男孩一样的声音唱了起来——我记得我当时说过，希望它Exactly像《指环王：双塔奇兵》里鸟从甘道夫塔顶飞走时，或者那只飞蛾的声音。

And my favorite part of it by far obviously is when that last cherry gets spit and we go to super close on it, and it starts singing in the, like, choir boy voice kinda like I believe I said I wanted it to be exactly like when the bird flies away from Gandalf on the top of the tower in in the two towers or the moth.

我觉得那是只飞蛾。

I think it's a moth.