The Mel Robbins Podcast - 这项技能能让每段关系都变得更好 封面

这项技能能让每段关系都变得更好

This One Skill Makes Every Relationship Better

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If you want stronger relationships with the people in your life, there’s one skill you can get better at right now: empathy. Empathy isn’t just something you feel. It’s something you practice – in the small, everyday moments when someone needs to feel understood, supported, remembered, or cared for. In this episode, Mel teaches you 4 simple, research-backed ways to practice empathy and build more trust, connection, and closeness with your partner, family, friends, coworkers, and even people you’ve just met. You’ll learn how to stop assuming you know what someone is feeling and truly understand them. You’ll see how to turn the thought “I should reach out” into real connection. And you’ll know how to show up for someone who is struggling without putting the burden on them to tell you what they need. Mel also shares fascinating research on connection, a powerful lesson from organizational psychologist Adam Grant on the small gestures that strengthen relationships, and an unforgettable story from the late Judge Frank Caprio about what it really means to see the person standing in front of you. You’ll learn: -The simple question that can help someone feel truly understood -How to get people to open up to you without pushing -How to stop overthinking and finally reach out -A better way to support someone who’s overwhelmed -How to show up for people in the good moments, too -The small actions that quietly build trust over time - How to create more moments of connection in your everyday life Strong relationships are built in the small moments. And when you start showing up differently in those moments, you don’t just make someone else’s life better. You make your own life better, too. This episode is sponsored by our exclusive insurance partner, Amica. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page. If you liked this episode, listen to this one next: Harvard Psychologist Shares 6 Words That Will Change Your Family. . Mel also wants to tell you: Try the 23g protein shot I drink every single morning Join 2 million readers loving my weekly newsletter - full of tips, tools, and inspiration The Let Them Theory: read the book everyone’s talking about Watch the episodes on YouTube Connect with me on Instagram Follow the show’s Instagram for clips, behind the scenes, and more Find some daily positivity on my TikTok Want zero ads? Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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嘿。

Hey.

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我是你的朋友梅尔,欢迎收听梅尔·罗宾斯播客。

It's your friend Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast.

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如果你想让更多人喜欢你,有一项技能你真的需要提升。

If you want more people to like you, there is one skill that you really need to get better at.

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好消息是,你可以做到。

And here's the good news, you can.

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今天,我要教你四件可以每天开始做的事情,这些基于研究的方法不仅能让别人更喜欢你。

Today, I'm gonna teach you four things you can start doing every single day based on research that will not only make other people like you.

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你会有更多朋友,更好的关系,家里少一些烦恼。

You're gonna have more friends, better relationships, less frustration at home.

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你会成为解决冲突的高手。

You will become a master at resolving conflict.

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当人们谈论你时,他们会说你的好话。

And when people talk about you, they're gonna say great things.

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而且这个技能学起来并不难。

And it's not hard to learn this skill.

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最酷的是,你今天要学的内容都是有研究依据的。

What's super cool is you're gonna learn today based on the research.

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这个技能很容易掌握,因为你天生就具备这种能力。

This is an easy skill to learn because you are hardwired for it.

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而且你练得越多,就越能立刻感受到自己内心的变化。

And the more you practice the skill, the more you'll notice an immediate change in how you feel about yourself.

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无论你走到哪里,都会看到这种不同。

And you're gonna see this difference everywhere you go.

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因为你这四件简单的事做得越多,你就会越喜欢自己,别人也会越喜欢你。

Because the more you do these four simple things, the more you're gonna like yourself, and the more other people will like you too.

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本期节目由Amica赞助播出。

This episode is brought to you by Amica.

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Amica提供车险、房屋险和人寿保险,但真正让他们与众不同的是他们对客户的关怀方式。

Amica offers auto home and life insurance, but what really sets them apart is the way they take care of people.

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他们的代表会花时间了解你,回答你的问题,并帮助你对自己的保险方案感到放心。

Their representatives take the time to understand you, answer your questions, and help you feel confident in your coverage.

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如果你需要理赔,他们会努力让流程尽可能顺畅,并想方设法为你提供帮助。

And if you ever need to make a claim, they work to make the process as seamless as possible and look for ways to say yes.

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今天就访问amica.com吧。

Visit amica.com today.

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正如Amica所说,同理心是我们最好的政策。

As they say at Amica, empathy is our best policy.

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现在我们来谈谈这个让所有人都喜欢你的技能,我会教你四种简单的练习方法。

Now let's talk about this one skill that makes everyone like you, and I'm gonna teach you four simple ways to practice it.

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你可能在想,梅尔,我准备好了。

And so you're probably wondering, Mel, I'm in.

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这个神奇的技能是什么?

What is this magical skill?

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是什么让别人喜欢我呢?

What is the thing that makes other people like me?

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这个技能就是同理心。

The skill is empathy.

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等等。

Hold on.

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你没预料到吧。

You didn't see that coming.

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我不想让你翻白眼。

I don't want you to roll your eyes.

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别关掉这期节目。

Do not turn off this episode.

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我希望你学会这个,并且真正接受我接下来要讲的研究。

I want you to learn this, and I want you to really embrace the research that I am going to unpack.

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我们先从“同理心”这个词说起。

Let's just start with the word empathy.

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因为我觉得,就像我以前一样,也许你现在也不太明白同理心到底是什么,或者它在生活中到底有多强大的作用。

Because I have a feeling that like I used to, maybe right now you don't really understand kind of what empathy is or how powerful of a skill it is in life.

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共情是那些厉害的人所拥有的技能。

Empathy is a skill that powerful people have.

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共情也不同于为某人感到难过。

Empathy is also not the same thing as feeling sorry for somebody.

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因为为别人感到难过,根据其带有的是尖锐还是温和的态度,可能是同情,也可能是怜悯。

Because feeling sorry for somebody else, depending upon the edge or the softness that it has, could either be sympathy or it could be pity.

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那都不是共情。

That's not empathy.

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共情完全是另一回事。

Empathy is something else entirely.

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但咱们先说说常识。

But let's just talk common sense first.

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我想让你想想你最喜欢的人。

I want you to think about your favorite person.

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比如,当你想到那个人时,天哪,你就是爱这个人。

Like, who is the person that when you think about them, oh my god, you just love this person.

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你对他们总有正面的评价。

You have positive things to say.

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你会松一口气。

You exhale.

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你的肩膀会放松下来。

Your shoulders relax.

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你就是很喜欢这个人。

You just really like this person.

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我敢保证,你喜欢这个人,是因为和他们在一起的时候,你自我感觉很好。

I guarantee you the reason why you like this person is because when you're around them, you feel good about yourself.

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和他们在一起时,他们会让你觉得自己被看见、被听见,他们会认真听你说话,对你的生活感兴趣。

When you're around them, they make you feel seen and heard, and they listen to what you have to say, and they're interested in your life.

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这就是你喜欢他们的原因,因为他们让你有那种感觉。

That's why you like them because of how they make you feel.

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还记得玛雅·安杰卢那句名言吗?

Remember the famous Maya Angelou quote?

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人们不会记得你做了什么,但会记得你带给他们的感受。

People do not remember what you do, they remember how you made them feel.

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而同理心就是你和他人之间的桥梁。

And empathy is the bridge between you and somebody else.

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你喜欢别人的原因,是因为和他们在一起时,他们让你自我感觉良好。

And the reason why you like other people is because other people make you feel good about you when you're around them.

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现在我想更深入地探讨为什么同理心实际上是一种超能力。

And now I want to drop even deeper into why empathy is an actual superpower.

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同理心不是为弱者准备的。

Empathy is not for people who are weak.

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同理心是地球上最具影响力的技能之一,这就是为什么我希望你真正投入其中,每天练习,因为同理心是你与生俱来的能力。

Empathy is one of the most influential skills on the planet, and this is why I want you to really lean into this and practice this every single day because empathy, you're wired for this.

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它是最接近超能力的东西。

It is the closest thing you have to a superpower.

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第一个原因是,它触发了所谓的互惠法则。

And the first reason why is it taps into this thing called the law of reciprocity.

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互惠法则是什么?

What is the law of reciprocity?

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互惠法则基本上就是,你对别人好,别人也会对你好。

Law of reciprocity is basically when you do something nice for others, they do something nice for you.

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这个已经被广泛研究过了,就是当别人对你好的时候,你心里会本能地觉得应该回报对方。

This has been studied extensively, that there is a hardwired psychological impulse for you to feel compelled to reciprocate whenever somebody does something nice for you.

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比如说,有人帮你开门,你走进一栋楼,有人帮你把门打开了。

Now, for example, if somebody opens up the door for you, you're walking into a building and somebody opens up the door.

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如果你面前有一扇门,你会立刻觉得自己应该做什么?

What do you immediately feel like you need to do if there's a door in front of you?

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帮他们开门。

Open it up for them.

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你根本不用想。

You don't even think about it.

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所以这个互惠法则,我们每个人天生就有。

And so this law of reciprocity is hardwired in all of us.

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所以,同理心就是有意识地利用我们这种天生的倾向。

And so empathy is the intentional leveraging of this tendency that we have.

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当你以让别人感到被理解、被看见、被倾听、被支持的方式出现时,这就是好处之一,因为他们也会想回报你。

And that's one of the benefits when you show up in a way where other people feel understood, seen, heard, and supported because they wanna give that back to you.

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所以这就是互惠法则:当你花时间去理解别人的处境时,会让对方感觉很好。

So that's the law of reciprocity, that when you take the time to try to understand what somebody else is going through, it makes somebody feel good.

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这会让他们觉得和你很亲近。

And that makes them feel connected to you.

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这会让他们喜欢你。

That makes them like you.

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而且也会让他们想回报你,因为这触发了我们所有人都有的东西——镜像神经元。

And it makes them also wanna return the favor because it's tapping into something that we all have called mirror neurons.

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关于镜像神经元,我可以用一个很通俗的方式给你解释。

Now mirror neurons, I can explain it to you in a very common sense way.

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这就是为什么你看电影的时候,如果发生特别感人的情节,某个主角或电影里的任何人开始哭,你也会觉得自己眼眶发热,这就是你的镜像神经元在起作用。

There's a reason why when you watch a movie and there's something super emotional happening and one of the main characters or anybody in the movie starts to cry and you feel yourself welling up, your mirror neurons.

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看到别人经历情绪,不管是正面的还是负面的,你的镜像神经元就会被触发,产生类似的反应。

Watching somebody else experience emotion, positive or negative, triggers your mirror neurons to have a similar reaction.

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神经科学家经常把镜像神经元说成是连接你和他人的一座神经桥梁。

Neuroscientists often talk about mirror neurons as this neural bridge that connects you to other people.

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真正改变我对同理心看法的人是斯图尔特·阿布隆医生。

The person who really changed how I think about empathy is doctor Stuart Ablon.

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阿布隆医生是一位获奖的心理学家。

Doctor Ablon is an award winning psychologist.

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他是哈佛医学院的教授。

He's a professor at Harvard Medical School.

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他是麻省总医院一个项目的创始人和主任,这家医院是全球排名第一的研究型医院。

He's the founder and director of a program at Mass General Hospital, the number one research hospital in the world.

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这个项目叫“Think Kids”。

It's called Think Kids.

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三十年来,他一直在临床实践中研究并帮助孩子们。

He's been working and researching and helping kids for thirty years in his clinical practice.

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我就问他,我说,阿布兰医生,您怎么看“同理心”这个词?

And I asked him, I said, you know, doctor Ablan, how do you think about the word empathy?

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他的回答简单得让人意外。

And his answer was incredibly simple.

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他就说了一个词:理解。

He said one word, understanding.

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理解。

Understanding.

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同理心就是去理解另一个人,理解他们的感受,理解他们的视角,理解他们正在经历的事情,在你评判别人、急着去解决问题、给出你的意见,或者对某人下定论之前。

Empathy is about understanding another person, what they're feeling, what their perspective is, what they're dealing with before you judge, you jump into fix, you give your opinion, or you make up your mind about somebody.

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这里有个好消息,因为多伦多大学的研究人员研究了在日常生活中练习同理心技能的机会。

And there's some good news here because researchers at the University of Toronto studied opportunities to practice the skill of empathy in your everyday life.

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他们把这些发现发表在了《心理科学杂志》上,我接下来要跟你分享。

And they published these findings I'm about to share with you in the Journal of Psychological Science.

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他们发现,平均来说,你每天至少有九次机会去练习同理心这项技能,也就是用行动让别人感受到被理解、被关心。

And they found that on average, you've got at least nine chances every day to practice the skill of empathy, which is acting in a way that other people feel understood by you and cared for by you.

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现在,有些机会可能就摆在你的眼前。

Now, some of these chances might be right in front of your face right now.

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同理心就是你能在别人重要的时刻陪伴他们,不管他们是难过还是开心,不管是好事还是坏事。

Empathy is the ability for you to meet people in the moments that matter to them, whether they're hurting or they're happy, whether it's positive or negative.

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这就是为什么它如此重要。

And here's why this is so important.

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每一个这样的小瞬间,都能让别人的生活变得更好。

Every single one of those little moments can make someone's life better.

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当你能够在这些时刻运用同理心,而不是急于下判断、回避别人或错过时机,你的生活也会变得更好。

And when you are able to leverage this skill of empathy in these moments instead of snapping to judgment or avoiding people or missing the moment, it makes your life better too.

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那么,我们来聊聊四种超级简单的日常练习同理心的方法。

And so let's talk about the four ways, super simple, that you can practice the skill of empathy every single day.

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第一种就是问。

And this first one is ask.

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不要猜。

Don't guess.

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不要猜测别人的感受。

Don't guess how somebody's doing.

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要问。

Ask.

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我跟你说实话。

And I'm gonna be honest with you.

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我大半辈子都搞错了这一点。

I got this wrong for most of my life.

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我以前总觉得,同理心就是设身处地,猜猜别人怎么想,然后就这样去理解别人。

See, I always thought empathy was the ability to step in someone's shoes and kinda guess how they're feeling, and that's how we're relating.

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结果发现根本不是那么回事。

Turns out that's not what that means.

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觉得自己知道别人感受,这本身就是个错误的方式。

Thinking you know what somebody is feeling is the wrong way to approach this.

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你得停止猜测,开始去问。

You need to stop guessing and start asking.

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多问问题。

Ask more questions.

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多倾听。

Listen more.

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你和我都会这样。

And you and I both do this.

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我们一生都在自动驾驶模式下度过。

We go through our life on autopilot.

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我们整天都在填补关于别人的空白。

We fill in the blanks about people all day long.

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你有多少次把伴侣的糟糕情绪归咎于某件事?

How many times have you chalked your partner's terrible mood up to something?

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他们有什么问题?

What is their problem?

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为什么他们总是这样?

Why are they always like this?

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为什么他们把工作压力发泄在我身上?

Why are they taking their work stress out on me?

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他们显然不在乎。

They clearly don't care.

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或者工作中的某个人,不尽力。

Or somebody at work, somebody at work is not pulling their weight.

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他们错过了截止日期。

They miss a deadline.

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他们做了件蠢事,而这件事他们平时做得很好。

They do something dumb that they normally do really well.

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然后你会想,他们不像我这样在乎这件事。

And then you think, well, they don't care about this like I do.

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或者你的朋友打电话来告诉你一个好消息。

Or your friend calls with fantastic news.

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你说,那太棒了。

And you say, that's amazing.

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然后你马上就把话题转到别的事情上去了。

And then you immediately switch topics to something else.

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在所有这些情况里,你都是在猜。

In all of those instances, you guessed.

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你一个问题都没问。

You didn't ask a single question.

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当你练习同理心的时候,你会反着来。

When you practice empathy, you do the opposite.

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你会停下来,然后问。

You stop and you ask.

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你是说当你问问题的时候,比如,跟我说说那件事吧。

And you're saying when you ask a question, well, tell me more about that.

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你看起来不太对劲。

You know, you don't seem like yourself.

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发生什么事了?

What's going on?

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通常你不会错过这些事情的。

You know, normally you don't miss these things.

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比如,一切都还好吗?

Like, is everything okay?

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比如,你是不是有很多……

Like, do you have a lot...

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比如,你看起来不太对劲。

Like, you don't seem like yourself.

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我们这里有个制作人,他曾经有个编辑,工作表现开始下滑。

You know, we have a producer here who once had this editor that was falling short at work.

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突然之间,工作成果开始变差,不像他们平时的水平,然后他们开始迟到。

Like all of a sudden the work product was falling off and it wasn't like them and then they started showing up late.

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编辑工作变得马虎。

The editing was sloppy.

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他不再按时交付了。

He wasn't delivering.

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你会怎么做?

What do you do?

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你会问,一切都还好吗?

You ask, is everything okay?

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你看起来不太对劲。

You don't seem like yourself.

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一切都还好吗?

Everything okay?

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结果发现,一切并不好。

Turns out everything wasn't okay.

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他一直在照顾生病的妈妈。

He had been taking care of his sick mom.

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他得带她去看医生,还要在快节奏的全职工作之余处理这些事。

He was shuttling her to doctor's appointments and he was trying to manage all of that on top of a full time fast paced job.

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而我们的制作人停下来问了,不是猜,是问。

And now that our producers stopped and asked, not guessed, asked.

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因为当你猜的时候,你会说,我猜你不在乎。

Because when you guess, you say, I guess you don't care.

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当你问的时候,你会说,天哪,你事情真多。

When you ask, you go, oh my gosh, you got a lot going on.

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现在你了解情况了。

And now you know the situation.

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现在你就在实践同理心了。

And now you're practicing empathy.

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你也能找到更好的方式继续前进。

And you can figure out a better way to move forward.

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同理心不是站在别人的立场上。

Empathy is not stepping in someone else's shoes.

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同理心不是读心术。

Empathy is not mind reading.

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同理心是停下来,花时间问那个问题。

Empathy is pausing long enough to ask the question.

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这就是为什么你要问,因为你猜不到别人是什么感受。

That's why you ask because you can't guess how somebody else is feeling.

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我想再说一遍。

And I'm gonna just say it again.

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我很久以来都搞错了,特别是当我还是个年轻家长的时候,我以为我能理解我孩子的感受。

I got this wrong for a very long time because I, especially as a young parent, thought I could just understand how my kid was feeling.

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我记得我在播客里分享过很多次,因为那是一段非常艰难和心碎的日子。

And I remember I've shared this a lot on the podcast because it was an incredibly challenging and heartbreaking time.

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我们的儿子当时上四年级。

Our son was in the fourth grade.

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他在学校很吃力。

He was struggling in school.

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你几乎能看到孩子眼里的光在慢慢变暗。

It's almost like you could see the light dimming inside your kid.

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我们那时才刚刚开始了解他有阅读障碍、书写障碍、执行功能问题和多动症。

And we were just beginning to understand that he had dyslexia and dysgraphia and executive functioning issues and ADHD.

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他觉得自己像个局外人。

He felt like an outsider.

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作为他的妈妈,你能做什么呢?

And as his mom, what do you do?

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当你看到自己的孩子或者你爱的人在挣扎时,那些镜像神经元就会立刻被激活。

Well, when you see your kid struggling or you see somebody that you love struggling, those mirror neurons, they go right off.

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你也会开始感到挣扎。

You start to struggle too.

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你开始担心。

You start to worry.

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所以,当我害怕的时候,我就做了我常做的事。

And so I did what I always do when I'm scared.

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你知道我是什么吗?

You know what I am?

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我是一台推土机。

I'm a bulldozer.

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我直接就进入解决问题的模式了。

I go right into problem solving mode.

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我们需要做什么?

What do we need to do?

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我们需要给谁打电话?

Who do we need to call?

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计划是什么?

What is the plan?

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我们怎么解决这个问题?

How do we fix this?

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而且在我心里,我觉得我是在帮忙。

And in my mind, I think I'm helping.

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我爱你,奥克利。

I love you, Oakley.

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我很担心你。

I'm worried about you.

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我看到表面上有问题,就直接跳进去解决了。

I see a problem on the surface, so I'm just gonna jump in and solve it.

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但试图帮忙反而让事情变得更糟。

But the attempt to try to help just made things worse.

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我相信你也做过同样的事,而我忽略了我儿子最需要的东西。

And I'm sure you've done the same thing, and I skipped over the most important thing that my son needed.

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他不是需要解决的问题。

He wasn't a problem to be solved.

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他是一个需要被理解的人。

He was a human being who needed to feel understood.

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而我需要做的,或者本可以做的,也是我希望你做的,以及我现在要做的,就是不要猜测。

And what I needed to do or could have done and what I hope you will do and what I'm gonna do now is don't guess.

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不要直接跳进去。

Don't just jump in.

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停下来,问一问。

Stop and ask.

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我真希望当时能坐下来跟他聊聊,哪怕是他四年级的时候,跟他说,亲爱的,我看得出来这真的很难。

I wish I would have sat down with him even in fourth grade and said, honey, I can see that this is really hard.

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你能帮我理解一下难在哪里吗?

Can you help me understand what's hard?

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对你来说最难的部分是什么?

What's the hardest part for you?

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你觉得所有大人都忽略了什么?

What do you think all the adults are missing?

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这对你来说到底是什么感觉?

What is this actually like for you?

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想想看,如果对方听到的是这样的话,感觉会多么不同,而不是大人们跑来跑去说,我知道你需要什么。

I mean, just think about how different that feels on the receiving end Rather than adults running around going, I know what you need.

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相反,我会说,嘿,你并不是一个人在面对这个,我真的很想了解你的感受。

Instead, I'm saying, hey, you're not alone in this, and I I really wanna understand what this is like for you.

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这会改变一切。

It shifts everything.

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它建立了连接。

It creates connection.

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它让人感到安全。

It makes somebody feel safe.

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现在,每当我遇到不知道怎么帮助别人的情况,我不会急着去解决问题。

And now, whenever I'm in a situation where I don't know how to help somebody, I don't jump into fixing.

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我也不会去猜。

And I don't guess.

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我会问。

I ask.

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帮我理解一下。

Help me understand.

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而且这不仅仅适用于艰难时刻。

And it's not just for the hard moments.

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帮我理解一下。

Help me understand.

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当生活顺风顺水的时候,说“多跟我说说”也同样重要。

Tell me more matters when life is going really well too.

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我们总是错过这些时刻。

We miss these moments all the time.

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当你爱的人很兴奋,比如天哪,他们考了个好成绩。

When somebody you love is excited, oh my gosh, they got a good grade.

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他们被约出去约会了。

They got asked out on a date.

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他们得了什么奖。

They won some award.

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他们今天工作特别顺利。

They had a really good day at work.

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他们终于把拖了三周的视频发出来了。

They posted that video they'd been procrastinating on for three weeks.

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别只说一句“太好了”然后就去忙做饭。

Don't just say great and move on and start cooking dinner.

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停一下。

Pause.

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再多说点。

Tell me more.

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太棒了。

That's awesome.

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哇。

Wow.

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那是什么感觉?

What did that feel like?

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因为你不必像他们那样在乎那件事。

Because you don't have to care about the thing as much as they do.

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但你在乎他们,所以你在乎这件事对他们很重要。

But you care about them, which is why you care that it matters to them.

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这就是同理心。

That's empathy.

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人们不只是想在痛苦时有人陪伴和支持。

You know, people don't only want company and support in their pain.

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他们在快乐时也希望有人分享。

They want company in their joy.

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而在这一切背后,当你让别人的快乐变得更大时,你知道你在说什么吗?

And underneath it all, when you make somebody's joy even bigger, you know what you're saying?

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你在说:你对我很重要,你的幸福对我也很重要。

You're saying you matter to me, and your happiness matters to me too.

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所以这是第一步。

So that's the first step.

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下次当你和某人在一起,他们要么情绪低落,要么心情很好时,不要猜测。

The next time you're around somebody and they're either feeling a little low or they're feeling something good, don't guess.

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去问。

Ask.

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问完之后,真正地倾听。

And after you ask the question, really listen.

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而且别担心接下来要说什么,因为你的目标就是陪在对方身边,去理解对方。

And don't worry about what you're gonna say next because your goal is just to be there and to understand.

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接下来,我会再教你三个方法来练习这种了不起的共情能力。

Coming up, I'm gonna show you three more ways to practice this incredible skill of empathy.

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很快你就会发现,你不仅会更喜欢自己,还会成为你认识的人中最受欢迎的一个。

And next thing you know, you're not only gonna like yourself more, you're gonna become one of the most likable people you know.

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但首先,我想再花点时间感谢今天节目的赞助商,Amica。

But first, I just wanna take another moment to thank the sponsor of today's episode, Amica.

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我喜欢Amica的地方在于他们的客服代表。

And what I love about Amica is their representatives.

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他们真的会花时间倾听,了解你的需求,并在关键时刻出现。

They really take the time to listen, understand what you need, and show up when it matters.

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这种一致性正是建立信任的基础,也能让你安心。

And that kind of consistency is what builds trust, and it gives you peace of mind.

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事实上,我想分享一个来自Amica的故事,因为它是一个关于共情实践的绝佳例子。

In fact, there's one story from Amica I wanna share with you because it's such a powerful example of empathy in action.

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几年前,一场飓风来袭,一棵树砸在了Amica一位客户的房子上。

So it was in the middle of a hurricane a few years back, and a tree fell on an Amica customer's home.

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不久之后,这位客户的丈夫被诊断出肺癌复发。

And shortly after that, this same customer, her husband, was diagnosed with recurrent lung cancer.

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想象一下,那一刻你肩上扛着多少事。

So just imagine for a second, there's a lot that you're carrying in that moment.

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房子被树砸了,你得处理损失和理赔,现在丈夫又被诊断出肺癌复发,她还得照顾他。

You got a tree on your house and you have to deal with the damage of this and the claims, and now your husband has been diagnosed with recurrent lung cancer and she's caring for him.

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就在这时,Amica的房产理赔员迈克尔·琼斯走进了她的生活。

Well, that's when Michael Jones, a general property adjuster at Amica, came into her life.

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迈克尔不只是到场评估房产损失。

Michael didn't just show up and assess the property for damage.

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不。

No.

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迈克尔用行动展现了同理心。

Michael displayed empathy through action.

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他全程紧密参与了整个房屋修复过程,倾听、回答问题,并帮助她一步步走完每一个环节,从开始到结束。

He stayed closely involved throughout the entire home repair process, listening, answering questions, and helping guide her through every single step from start to finish.

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她对此非常感动,后来写道,有迈克尔的支持,让她在极其困难的时期能够专心照顾丈夫。

She was so moved by this that she later wrote that having Michael's support allowed her to focus on her husband during an incredibly difficult time.

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迈克尔只是对她说,你看。

And Michael just told her, look.

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我只是用我希望别人对待我妈妈的方式来对待你。

I was just treating you the way I'd want somebody to treat my own mom.

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她说她真的感受到了这一点。

And she said she truly felt that.

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这就是同理心。

That's empathy.

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当你以让人感到自己重要的方式出现时,这就是花时间真正理解他人经历的力量。

When you show up in a way that makes somebody feel like they matter, that's the power of taking time to truly understand what someone else is going through.

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而Amica的代表总是投入时间,确保你对未来的一切都感到自信和有准备。

And Amica representatives always put in the time to make sure you feel confident and prepared for whatever is coming your way.

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正是这种贴心的关怀,让Amica能够世代赢得客户的长期信赖。

It's the kind of personal attention that's helped Amica build enduring customer relationships for generations.

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事实上,他们的客户留存时间比行业平均水平高出三倍多。

In fact, their customers stay with them more than three times longer than the industry average.

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如果让我猜的话,你想知道为什么吗?

And if I had to guess, you wanna know why?

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我觉得是因为他们带着同理心去做生意。

I think it's because they show up and do business with empathy.

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他们让客户觉得自己很重要。

They make their customers feel like they matter.

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今天就访问amica.com吧。

Visit amica.com today.

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正如Amica所说,同理心是我们最好的政策。

As they say at Amica, empathy is our best policy.

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现在我们来谈谈在日常生活中练习同理心这种技能的第二种方法。

Now let's talk about the second way you're going to practice this skill of empathy in your everyday life.

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我在《让他们理论》这本书里写过这个。

I wrote about this in the Let Them Theory book.

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我把它叫做“主动出击”。

I call it go first.

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别坐在那儿等着别人。

Don't sit around and wait for other people.

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你先来。

You go first.

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你要做那个主动联系的人。

You be the one to reach out.

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如果你跟我一样,当有人出现在你脑海里时,你会想,好吧。

If you're anything like me, when somebody comes to your mind, you think, okay.

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哦,对。

Oh, yeah.

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杰西。

Jesse.

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我我我真的应该给杰西发个短信。

I I I really should text Jesse.

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不知道那个预约怎么样了。

I wonder how that appointment went.

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我应该给我爸打个电话。

I should call my dad.

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我应该祝贺他一下。

I should congratulate him.

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天哪。

Oh my gosh.

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我好久没见到她了。

I haven't seen her forever.

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我们真的应该聚一聚。

We really should get together.

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然后会发生什么呢?

And then what happens?

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你本意是好的。

You have the best of intentions.

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但后来你分心了,或者你想,哦,现在都三点十五了,离我开到杂货店只剩五分钟,这点时间根本不够跟人好好聊。

But then you get distracted, or you think, oh, well, it's, like, 03:15, and I only have five minutes before I pull into the grocery store, and that's not enough time to talk to somebody.

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所以我就先不打电话了。

So I'm not gonna call them.

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我现在不想打扰他们。

I don't wanna bother them right now.

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他们在医院,我不想成为那种真正添麻烦的人。

They're at the hospital, and, you know, I don't wanna be those people that's a real burden.

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他们可能很忙。

They're probably busy.

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我相信已经有别人去看过他们了。

I'm sure somebody else has already checked in on them.

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已经过去这么久了。

You know, it's been so long.

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如果我现在突然联系他们,会不会很奇怪?即使他们刚出现在我脑海里,这也许是个我应该主动的信号?

Wouldn't it be weird if I just reached out right now out of the blue even though they popped into my mind, and that's sort of a sign that I should go first?

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所以你就没联系。

So then you don't.

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我想坦诚地说一件事。

And I wanna be honest about something.

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发短信并不难。

Sending the text isn't hard.

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拿起电话打电话也不难。

Picking up the phone and making a call, that's not hard.

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难的是在你要做这件事之前的那一刻,你开始想这会是什么感觉。

It's the moment right before you're about to do it, and how you start wondering what is it gonna feel like.

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会不会很尴尬,会不会不受欢迎?

Is this gonna be awkward, unwanted?

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我会不会打扰到他们?

Am I gonna interrupt them?

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我是不是打扰到他们了?

Am I bothering them?

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他们会觉得奇怪吗?

Are they gonna be weird?

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我该给他们打电话吗?

Should I call them?

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但想念一个人,和让对方知道你在想他,是两回事。

But thinking about someone is not the same thing as showing them that you're thinking of them.

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因为你姐姐感受不到那条你从未发出的短信。

Because your sister can't feel that text you never sent.

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你大学室友听不到你藏在心里的那句赞美。

Your college roommate can't hear the compliment that you kept in your head.

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你丈夫感受不到那句“嘿,你看起来不太对劲”背后的关心。

Your husband doesn't feel the care that comes from saying, Hey, you don't seem like yourself.

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你今天是不是过得很辛苦?

Did you have a hard day?

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告诉我发生了什么事。

Tell me what's going on.

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他们不知道你开车去超市的路上想过要打电话。

They don't know you were thinking about calling as you were driving to the grocery store.

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所以光想不算数。

So thinking doesn't count.

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如果你在这方面有困难,你并不孤单。

And if you have trouble with this, you're not alone.

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如果你是那种心意很好,但总是没有付诸行动的人,我想让你听听博士怎么说。

If you're one of those people that has really good intentions, but it never translates to action, I want you to hear from Doctor.

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亚当·格兰特。

Adam Grant.

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博士。

Doctor.

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亚当·格兰特是组织心理学家、畅销书作家,也是沃顿商学院历史上最年轻的终身教授。

Adam Grant is an organizational psychologist, bestselling author, the youngest ever tenured professor at the Wharton School of Business in their history.

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而且过去七年里,他一直都是他们那儿评分最高的教授。

He's also been their top rated professor for the last seven years.

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他写了六本《纽约时报》畅销书,全都是关于动力、隐藏潜力、人际关系和影响力的。

He's written six New York Times bestselling books all about motivation, hidden potential, relationships, influence.

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他还上过这个播客,就是梅尔·罗宾斯播客,讲了一个特别棒的概念,叫“送鹅卵石”。

And he appeared on this podcast, the Mel Robbins podcast, and explained this beautiful concept called pebbling.

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我特别喜欢这个概念,也想让你了解一下,因为我知道你一定会记住它的。

And I love this concept, and I want you to learn about it because I know it's gonna stick with you.

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而且这个概念特别形象,下次你想到某个人的时候,它就会促使你主动做点什么,先迈出第一步,让对方感受到你的心意。

And because there's this visual thing, the next time you think of somebody, it'll motivate you to do something and go first and make them feel it.

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我超爱“送鹅卵石”这个概念。

I love pebbling.

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送鹅卵石……

Pebbling...

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这个词的起源是,有些企鹅在求偶的时候,会送上光滑闪亮的小石子,用这种方式来表明自己很适合做伴侣,可以一起筑巢。

The origin of the term is there are some penguins that, when they're courting mates, they will present smooth, shiny pebbles as a way of of showing, you know, basically, they're suitable for partnering and building a nest together.

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这是一个小小的举动,意思是说,嘿,我可能适合你。

It's a little gesture that says, hey, I might be for you.

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现代数字版的“送鹅卵石”就是给别人发表情包、链接、短视频和文章。

The modern digital equivalent of pebbling is sending other people memes, links, reels, and articles.

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“送鹅卵石”不是随便往别人那儿扔一堆网上的乱七八糟的东西。

Pebbling is not about spamming people with random junk from the Internet.

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而是精心挑选一小段你知道能引起对方共鸣的内容。

It's about carefully choosing a little bit of information that you know is gonna resonate with somebody else.

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它传达的是:我想到了你。

And it says, I thought of you.

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我懂你。

I know you.

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我看到了你。

I see you.

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每一颗“鹅卵石”都是一次连接彼此的尝试。

Every pebble is a bid for connection.

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现在已经有多项研究表明,当你认识一个新朋友后,如果一周或一个月后,你给他们发一个小石子,说:嘿,我看到一个表情包,是麦考利·卡尔金穿着一件印有瑞恩·高斯林头像的T恤,然后瑞恩·高斯林又穿了一件印着麦考利·卡尔金穿着那件瑞恩·高斯林T恤的T恤。

There have been now multiple studies which show that after you meet somebody new, if a week or a month later, you send them a little pebble and you say, hey, I saw this meme of Macaulay Culkin wearing a shirt with Ryan Gosling on it, and then Ryan Gosling wore a shirt of Macaulay Culkin wearing the Ryan Gosling shirt.

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然后我想说,我知道这是你的菜。

And I'd like, I know this is your jam.

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这就是你喜欢的幽默风格。

This is your kind of humor.

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这让我立刻就想到了你。

It just reminded me of you instantly.

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那个人会觉得和你更亲近,因为你懂他。

That person will feel closer to you because you got them.

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你记得他独特的幽默感。

You remember their unique sense of humor.

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我觉得这是加强关系的好方法。

And I think that that's a great way to strengthen a bond.

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这也是重新联系某人的好办法。

It's also a great way to get back in touch with someone.

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你联系了一个所谓的“休眠关系”,就是那种你两年、五年,甚至十年以上都没联系过的人。

You reach out to somebody who's called a dormant tie, somebody you haven't talked to in two years, five years, maybe a decade or more.

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我刚看完《足球教练》的新一季,里面有一集简直就像为你量身定做的。

I just finished the new season of Ted Lasso, and there is an episode that has you written all over it.

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那个人真的会觉得,哇。

And that person really feels like, wow.

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首先,我简直不敢相信你还记得我喜欢看什么剧。

First of all, I can't believe you remembered my taste in TV.

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所以你这是秀了一把记忆力。

So you've done a memory flex.

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你等于是在说,嘿。

You you have said, hey.

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你猜怎么着?

Guess what?

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就是,我足够在乎你,才会去关注你。

Like, I cared enough about you to pay attention to you.

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但你也因此创造了一个重新联系的理由。

But you've also now created a reason to reconnect.

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我很喜欢格兰特医生刚才说的话。

I love what doctor Grant just said.

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我给你举个例子,说说我生活中的‘小石子’行为。

I'll give you an example of pebbling in my life.

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当我丈夫给我买超市里最便宜的那束花时。

When my husband buys me the cheapest bouquet of grocery store flowers.

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我说的是那种五美元的花束,小小的,看起来不起眼,没人会注意的那种。

I'm talking like the $5 bouquet, the little, like, tiny looking thing that everybody's ignoring.

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他带回家,把它放在厨房台面上的一个梅森罐里,我看到了。

And he brings it home and puts it just in a mason jar on the island in the kitchen, and I see it.

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因为我知道,他在外面办事的时候,心里想着我,在乎我。

Because what I know is that he cared enough about me and was thinking about me while he was out running an errand.

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他记得我喜欢花,不管是什么样的花。

And he remembered that I love flowers no matter what they are.

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他通过行动向我表达了这一点。

And he took an action to show me that.

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我们很多人去超市时都会想着买花。

A lot of us go to the grocery store and think about buying the flowers.

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光想不算数。

That doesn't count.

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如果你只是想着自己能做什么,那并不是在实践同理心。

You are not practicing empathy if you're just thinking about what you could do.

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你需要把它变成实际行动。

You need to make it physical.

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你需要有那个小石子,因为石子本身就是证据。

You need to have that little pebble because the pebble itself is evidence.

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这是一个行动,表明你足够关心对方,愿意去关注他们,哪怕只是一个无聊的梗图。

It's an action that you cared enough to pay attention to the other person, even if it's a dumb meme.

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我记得你喜欢这个东西。

I remembered that you liked this thing.

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我记得两年前我们为这事笑过。

I remembered that we laughed about this two years ago.

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我们之所以不常做这种小举动,不主动迈出第一步,最大的原因之一就是——信不信由你——很多人觉得这种举动不会得到温暖的回应,也不会被感激。

And one of the biggest reasons why we don't do more pebbling, why we don't go first, is because believe it or not, a lot of you think that that gesture is not going to be met with warmth and with, like, appreciation.

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如果你这么想,觉得主动送个小礼物、发条消息或者先迈出第一步有点别扭,我想分享斯坦福大学的一项研究,它会告诉你,你错了。

And if you're thinking that, that you're feeling a little weird about pebbling or sending that text or, you know, making the first gesture going first, I wanna share some research out of Stanford that tells you you're wrong.

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研究人员调查了五千多名本科生,发现了一种他们称之为“共情感知差距”的现象。

Researchers studied more than 5,000 undergraduate students, and they found something they call the empathy perception gap.

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简单来说,就是我们很多人平时都低估了别人会多么关心、支持我们,以及会多么感激我们。

Basically, that a lot of us walk around and we underestimate how caring, supportive, and appreciative everybody else is gonna be.

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我举个例子。

I'm gonna give you an example.

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学生们猜测,大概有87%的同学会帮助遇到困难的人。

Students guessed that about maybe 87% of their peers would help somebody who was having a hard time.

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但当问他们自己会不会帮忙时,96%的人都说会。

But when students were asked whether or not they themselves would help, 96% of people said yes.

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那么,如果你开始相信,像你一样,96%的人都是温暖、关心他人、有同理心、善解人意的,而且很乐意和你聊天,会发生什么呢?

So what happens if you start to believe that like you, 96% of people are warm, caring, empathetic, and understanding, and would love to talk to you?

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结果,学生们开始更主动地去联系别人。

Well, the students started reaching out more.

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他们开始先迈出第一步。

They began to go first.

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你猜怎么着?

And guess what happened?

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几个月后,他们的社交圈扩大了。

Months later, their social networks had expanded.

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他们更受欢迎了,就像我们说的所有那些好处一样。

They were more likeable, like all of the things that we're talking about.

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所以,我们来总结一下这项研究。

So let's bottom line this research.

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阻碍你获得更多人际关系、更受欢迎的东西,并不是别人不关心你。

The thing standing between you and more connection in your life, more likability, is not that people don't care about you.

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问题是大家都在等别人先迈出第一步。

It's that everybody is waiting for someone else to do it first.

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那就做那个先行动的人吧。

Be that somebody.

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这就是为什么我说同理心是给赢家的。

This is why I say empathy is for winners.

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同理心是给强者的。

Empathy is for the strong.

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同理心是给有影响力的人的。

Empathy is for people who are influential.

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同理心意味着你先行动。

Empathy means you go first.

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下次当你想起某个人时,给他们发个消息吧。

And the next time somebody pops into your mind, send them a pebble.

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你知道该怎么做的。

You know what to do.

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如果有人告诉你,周四有件重要的事,就在日历上记一笔,周四那天祝他们好运。

And if somebody tells you something important that's happening on Thursday, put a little something in your calendar and wish them luck on Thursday.

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如果他们下周二要做手术,设个提醒,发条短信给他们。

If they have a surgery next week on Tuesday, set a reminder and text them.

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如果你看到有人看起来需要友好的面孔,就打个招呼,笑一笑。

If you see somebody who looks like they could use a friendly face, just say hello, smile.

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如果你听到关于某人的好消息,告诉他们你为他们高兴。

If you hear good news about somebody, tell them you're happy for them.

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当你开始练习同理心的第二个方面,也就是行动中的同理心时,我希望你注意一些事情。

And I want you, as you start to practice the second aspect of the skill of empathy, empathy in action, I want you to notice something.

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注意当你开始这样生活时会发生什么,因为这会改变一切。

Notice what happens when you start living this way because it changes everything.

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首先,这会改变你自己,因为你现在在实践同理心和行动。

First of all, it changes you because now you're practicing empathy and action.

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你是那个送出小石头的人,但这也会改变别人对你的看法。

You're the one giving the pebbles, but it also changes how people feel about you.

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因为当你给别人那颗小石子、那朵花或者那个表情包时,他们会觉得自己被记住了。

Because when you give somebody that pebble or that flowers or that meme, they feel remembered.

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他们会觉得自己被接纳了。

They feel included.

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他们会觉得自己被重视了。

They feel celebrated.

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他们会觉得自己不那么孤单了。

They feel less alone.

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你有没有给朋友发过短信,说,嘿。

Have you ever texted somebody who's like, hey.

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记得今天是那个什么日子。

Remember today's such and such.

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是你的重要面试。

It's your big job interview.

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然后对方说,真的吗?

And they're like, really?

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谢谢你。

Thank you.

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你还记得?

You remembered?

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哇。

Wow.

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如果你曾经有人这样对你,你会觉得,哇,你居然在想我?

And if you've ever had somebody do that for you, you're like, woah, you were thinking of me?

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我们总是觉得别人不在乎我们,这难道不让人难过吗?

Isn't it sad that we all walk around thinking people don't care about us?

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我们总是觉得别人不温暖、不善良、不感激,这难道不让人难过吗?

Isn't it sad that we walk around thinking other people are not warm and kind and appreciative?

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而我们都孤立无援,却渴望同样的东西。

And here we all are isolated wanting the same thing.

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我们想要被理解、被看见、被庆祝。

We wanna feel understood and seen and celebrated.

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所以这就是你每天练习同理心的第二种方法。

So that's the second way you're gonna practice empathy every single day.

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第三种方法,你一定会喜欢的。

And the third way, you're gonna love this.

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我把它叫做纸盘子。

I call this paper plates.

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送纸盘子。

Drop off paper plates.

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我来解释一下这是什么意思。

Let me explain what I mean by that.

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几年前,我们播客请来了一位非常厉害的专家。

So there was this extraordinary expert that we had on the podcast a few years ago.

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你可能还记得她。

You may remember her.

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她是一位持证临床治疗师,也是畅销书作家,她的名字叫凯西·戴维斯。

She's a licensed clinical therapist and a bestselling author, and her name is Casey Davis.

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她来分享了一些能改善生活的小妙招。

And she came on to share simple little things that improve your life.

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她分享的最好的建议之一,就是如何帮助正在挣扎的朋友。

And one of the best pieces of advice that she shared was what to do to help a struggling friend.

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这个建议让我深受启发。

And this advice inspired me so much.

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它改变了我对待生活中那些正在挣扎的人的方式。

It has changed the way that I show up for people in my life who are struggling.

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所以,我先说说在凯西·戴维斯教我纸盘技巧之前,我以前是怎么做的。

So let me tell you first what I used to do before Casey Davis taught me this paper plate trick.

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以前,当有人遇到困难或者经历艰难时期,或者他们告诉我他们正在经历一些艰难的事情时,我会说,天哪,真的很抱歉发生这种事。

What I used to do when somebody was struggling or going through a hard time or they were telling me that they were going through something hard is I would be like, oh my gosh, you know, I'm really sorry that that's happening.

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那真的很糟糕。

That that really is awful.

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我能怎么帮你呢?

How can I support you?

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或者你给别人发条短信。

Or you send somebody a text.

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我听说发生了那件事。

I heard about, you know, this thing that happened.

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你需要什么?

What do you need?

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而凯西·戴维斯教我的这个方法,我希望你也能用上。

And what Casey Davis taught me is something I want you to steal.

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当你爱的人遇到困难时,不要问他们需要什么。

When somebody that you love is struggling, do not ask them what they need.

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对。

Yes.

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你可以问他们感觉怎么样。

You can ask them questions about how they're feeling.

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多跟我讲讲那件事。

Tell me more about that.

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帮我了解一下现在的情况。

Help me understand what's going on.

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当你问一个正在挣扎的人,嗯,你需要什么?

When you ask somebody who's struggling, well, what do you need?

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直接告诉我我能做什么来支持你。

You know, just tell me what I can do to support you.

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大多数人会说,我连今天星期几都不知道。

Most people are like, I don't even know what day it is.

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凯西·戴维斯是这么说的。

And here's what Casey Davis says.

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纸盘子。

Paper plates.

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就送纸盘子、塑料杯、塑料餐具,因为你知道吗?

Just drop off paper plates, plastic cups, plastic utensils because you know what?

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一个人在最难的时候,最不需要的就是一水池的碗要洗。

The last thing a person needs is a sink full of dishes when they're going through a hard time.

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那些纸盘子、一次性杯子和一次性餐具,如果你打开门看到门廊上放着这些,还附着一张温馨的便条,你知道那意味着什么吗?

And those paper plates and those disposable cups and those disposable utensils, you know what that says if you open up your door and you see that on a porch with a lovely note?

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那可不是小石子。

It's not even a pebble.

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那简直是一块巨大的爱的巨石。

It's kind of like a giant boulder of love.

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它明明白白地告诉你:我在乎你。

It literally says, I care about you.

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我不知道该怎么做,所以我做了这个。

I don't know what to do, so I'm doing this.

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当你生了孩子后,有人送来一锅炖菜,那又意味着什么呢?

When somebody drops off a casserole after you've had a baby, what does it say?

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天哪。

Oh my gosh.

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哇。

Wow.

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他们想着我呢。

They're thinking of me.

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就这么简单。

That's it.

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当你特别困难的时候,有人来帮你打扫厨房或者洗衣服。

When somebody shows up if you're really struggling and they just clean your kitchen or they do your laundry.

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今年夏天我病得很重,我丈夫和我每年都有个惯例,就是他的大学朋友们会来城里,我特别喜欢他们。

You know, I was really, really sick this summer, and my husband and I, have this annual thing where lots of, his college friends who I just love come into town.

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我们家里有14个人,而我整个周末都躺在床上。

And I was in bed all weekend while we had 14 people here.

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都是成双成对的,人特别好,其中很多人三十年前还参加过我们的婚礼,而我却病倒在床上。

All couples, amazing people, many of whom were in our wedding thirty years ago, and I was in bed sick.

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我跟你说。

And let me tell you something.

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没有一个人进卧室来问我,我能帮你做点什么?

Not once did anyone come into the bedroom and go, what can I do to support you?

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相反,他们把房子打扫干净了。

Instead, they cleaned the house.

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他们做了所有的饭菜。

They cooked all the meals.

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他们遛了狗。

They walked the dogs.

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那简直是你生病时能遇到的最好的周末,因为他们把所有事情都照顾好了。

It was like the best weekend you could possibly be sick because they just took care of everything.

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而且,在照顾一切的过程中,我根本不用开口。

And in taking care of everything, I didn't have to ask.

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我感觉被深深关爱着。

I felt so cared for.

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虽然我错过了所有乐趣,但看到床边放着一盘食物,而我刚打了个盹,天哪,走出卧室看到厨房干干净净,天哪。

And, I missed out on all the fun, but having just a plate of food show up next to the bed where I had taken a nap, oh my gosh, walking into the kitchen when I came out of the bedroom and seeing it clean, oh my gosh.

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他们只是做了该做的事,而没有问我需要什么。

They just did what needed to be done without asking me what I needed.

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这就是为什么第三种实践同理心、展现同理心的方式,也就是通过行动表达同理心,是把自己放在类似的情境中,想一想:我能做些什么来展示支持,而不需要问他们需要什么?

And that's why the third way you can practice empathy, you can display it, it's empathy through action, Is put yourself in a similar situation and think, what could I do that would demonstrate support without asking them what they need?

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也许那只是出现在他们身边,陪他们坐一会儿。

And maybe that just looks like showing up and sitting with them.

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我之所以喜欢纸盘子这个例子,是因为它让你做一些不同于平常的事情。

The other thing I love about paper plates is it asks you to do something different than you normally do.

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你张开双臂走向那个人,给予你面前的人真正看见他们、帮助他们回应或支持,而不求任何回报。

You're coming to the person with open arms and you're giving the person in front of you the response or the support that truly sees and helps them without asking them for anything in return.

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我听过最好的例子之一,来自已故的法官弗兰克·卡普里奥。

One of the best examples of this I have ever heard came from the late judge Frank Caprio.

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你可能记得他是美国最友善的法官,他在罗德岛法庭上的善意让他成为网络红人,全世界有数百万人关注他。

Now you might remember him as America's nicest judge, and his kindness in his Rhode Island courtroom made him a viral sensation with millions of people following him from around the world.

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我感到非常荣幸,能在卡普里奥法官88岁去世前几个月和他坐下来交谈。

And I feel so honored that I got to sit down with Judge Caprio just a few months before he passed away at 88 years old.

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在我们的对话中,我问他作为市政法院法官的第一天是什么样的,在那里,大多数来到他面前的人处理的都是日常琐事,比如停车罚单、交通违规。

And during our conversation, I asked him about his very first day as a judge in municipal court, where most of the people coming in before him are dealing with everyday things like parking fines, traffic violations.

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就在他上任的第一天,发生了一件事,彻底改变了他接下来三十年对待人的方式。

And something happened on that very first day on the bench that totally changed the way that judge Caprio treated people for the next thirty years.

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接下来是弗兰克·卡普里奥法官在梅尔·罗宾斯播客上的分享。

Here is judge Frank Caprio on the Mel Robbins Podcast.

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大家听一听。

Take a listen.

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我收到一堆……

I get a bunch of...

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不。

No.

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我,我是法官。

I'm I'm a judge.

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我穿着法袍呢。

I got the robe.

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我这就去。

I'm gonna go.

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我现在是老大。

I'm I'm the boss.

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我要坐上法官席了,就是现在。

I'm gonna sit on the bench, And this is it now.

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我到了。

I have arrived.

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所以我跟我爸说,我说,爸,我今天第一天坐堂。

So I said to my father, I said, dad, my first day on the bench.

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他说,我会下来走走。

He said, I'll come down on walks.

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我说,好。

I said, good.

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下来吧。

Come down.

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我希望你下来。

For I'd you to come down.

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所以我坐在那里,真的觉得自己很了不起。

So I'm there and I am really full of myself.

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我现在是法官了,看看我。

I'm a judge now, look at me.

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请全体起立。

All rise, please.

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所有人都站起来,诸如此类。

Everybody rises and so forth.

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真是太疯狂了。

It's so crazy.

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然后有个女人来到我面前,她的车被锁了。

So this woman comes before me, she had a boot on her car.

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我不知道她欠了多少,大概几百小时的罚单,她付不起。

I don't know what she owed, a couple hundred hours in tickets and she couldn't pay them.

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所以我说,如果你不付钱,我就不把锁从车上取下来。

So I said, well, if you don't pay it, I'm not gonna take the boot off the car.

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她说,我就是没钱。

And she says, I just don't have the money.

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我没钱,我还有四个孩子。

I don't have the money and I have four kids.

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这是我第一天当法官。

It's my first day on the bench.

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没人能欺负我,对吧?

No one's gonna bully me around, right?

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所以我说,那你欠了钱。

So I says, well, you owe the money.

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如果你不还,我们就不会把锁拆下来。

And if you don't, we're gonna leave the boot on the car.

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她说,我没钱。

She said, I don't have the money.

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我得送孩子去上学。

I have to get my kids to school.

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所以我就说,抱歉,案子延期吧。

So I said, I'm sorry, continue the case.

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我们给你几天时间,你再来处理。

We'll give you a couple of days to come in.

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当时我爸就在法庭上。

And my father's in the courtroom.

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庭审结束后,我爸走进我的办公室。

After court's over, my father comes into the chambers.

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我特别高兴。

I'm so happy.

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他说,爸,今天怎么样?

He said, dad, how did it go?

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他说,情况怎么样?

He said, how did it go?

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怎么样……

How how did...

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你怎么能那样做?

How could you do that?

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我做什么了?

How could I do what?

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他说,弗兰克,她有四个孩子。

He said, Frank, she had four kids.

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如果她交了那些罚单,今晚可能就没钱给孩子买吃的了。

Now suppose she can't feed the kids tonight if she paid those tickets.

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她没有车。

She has no, she doesn't have a car.

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她没法开车送他们上学。

She can't drive them to school.

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你在干什么?

What are you doing?

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你可不是被这样养大的。

You weren't brought up that way.

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我上任第一天在法庭上的经历,奠定了我三十多年法官生涯的基调。

My first day on the court set the tone of my judgeship of over thirty years.

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从那以后,我在量刑时都会考虑每个人的个人情况。

After that, I took everybody's personal situation into consideration in the imposition of a sentence.

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这个女人一开始确实很无礼,但你必须克服这一点。

This woman, she was insulting to begin with, but you have to overcome that.

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因为她害怕。

Cause she was scared.

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她当时怕得要死,对吧?

And she was scared to death, right?

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是的。

Yes.

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就像我父亲说的。

As my father said.

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我觉得她是上天给你的礼物,因为你在书的第一百一十页写到了这一点。

Well, I think she was a gift to you because you write in this book on page one ten.

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那次经历让我明白,做法官更重要的是关注眼前这个人,而不是法律条文本身。

The lesson was that being a judge is much more about the person in front of you than it is about the law.

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从那以后,我一直努力去了解这个人背后真正发生了什么。

Since then, I've always tried to find out what was really going on with the person.

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而且我总会考虑我的判决不仅会影响他们本人,还会影响他们整个家庭。

And I always considered how my ruling would impact not only them, but their whole family.

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这些话不是随便说说的。

Those aren't only words.

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我确实做到了。

I did that.

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这本身就是一堂课。

That right there is a lesson.

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我一直努力去了解这个人背后真正发生了什么。

I've always tried to find out what was really going on with the person.

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现在我想请你花点时间想一想,你能做些什么,真正向别人表明你关心他们。

And I want you to take a moment right now and think about what could you do that would really demonstrate to somebody that you care.

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比如说,想想你生活中的某个人。

Like, think about somebody in your life.

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也许是你担心的人。

Maybe it's somebody you're worried about.

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也许是正在经历困难的人。

Maybe it's somebody going through a hard time.

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也许是刚刚发生了很棒的事情,而你却没有在他们庆祝的帖子下留言的人。

Maybe it's somebody that just had something amazing happen happen, and you didn't comment on their post celebrating it.

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你能做些什么,让别人感到被理解、被支持、被看见?

What could you do that could make somebody else feel understood, supported, and seen?

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这就是行动中的同理心,而且不必复杂。

That's empathy in action, and it doesn't have to be complicated.

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如果有人手上拿满了东西,就帮他们扶一下门。

If somebody has their hands full, hold the door.

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如果你的同事忙得不可开交,就从他们的待办清单上分担一些事情。

If your coworker is buried, take something off their to do list.

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如果你的孩子因为没入选队伍而伤心,就陪着他坐一会儿。

If your kid is crushed because they didn't make the team, sit with them.

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坐下来。

Sit.

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在你开始说话、指导、建议和安慰之前,先问问他们感觉怎么样。

And before you start talking and coaching and advising and consoling, ask them how they're doing.

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不要等他们主动来寻求支持。

Don't wait for them to reach out for support.

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主动出现。

Show up.

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带上纸盘子。

Bring the paper plates.

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就这么简单。

That's it.

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当你觉得有人需要支持时,就提供支持。

When you feel that somebody could use support, provide the support.

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这就引出了第四种让你更讨人喜欢的简单方法,那就是展现同理心。

And that brings me to the fourth simple way that you will become more likable and you are demonstrating empathy.

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顺便说一句,这是我最喜欢的一个。

And by the way, this one's my favorite.

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继续挥手。

Keep on waving.

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让我解释一下。

Let me explain.

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你付出的能量,就是你收获的能量。

The energy you put out is the energy you get back.

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你展现的同理心,就是你得到的同理心、理解和支持。

And the empathy that you display is the empathy and understanding support that you get back.

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你向邻居挥出的手,也会得到同样的回应。

The wave that you extend to the neighbor is the wave that you receive in return.

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是不是很有趣?

And isn't it funny?

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总得有人先挥手。

Someone has to wave first.

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但只要你一挥手,大多数人都会回应你。

But once you wave, most people wave back.

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我得跟你讲讲CBS新闻的史蒂夫·哈特曼报道过的一个故事。

And I have to tell you this story that was reported on by Steve Hartman at CBS News.

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如果你不认识史蒂夫,他主持的那些节目片段特别精彩。

Now, if you don't know Steve, he hosts these incredible segments.

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我特别喜欢这些片段。

I love these segments.

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它们叫《在路上》。

They're called On the Road.

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在这些片段里,史蒂夫走遍全国,讲述普通人做非凡事的故事。

And in the segment, Steve travels around the country telling stories just about ordinary people doing extraordinary things.

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而且往往是最简单的事情才显得非凡。

And oftentimes it's the simplest things that are extraordinary.

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这些故事会让你想起人性中最美好的一面。

They're the kinds of stories that remind you of the best in people.

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我特别喜欢这个故事,我把它分享给了很多人。

Now, this particular story that I fell in love with, I sent this to so many people.

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它真的太美了。

It was so beautiful.

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故事讲的是北卡罗来纳州康科德市一个四岁的小男孩,名叫罗曼。

It's about a four year old boy in Concord, North Carolina named Roman.

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罗曼特别喜欢和人打交道。

Roman loves people.

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实际上,罗曼有个习惯,就是站在自家前院里,向邻居们挥手。

In fact, Roman had this habit of standing outside all, you know, in his front yard waving to his neighbors.

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他向路过的人挥手。

He waves to people walking by.

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他会打招呼。

He says hello.

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他总是先主动打招呼。

He just keeps going first.

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他一遍又一遍地挥手。

He just keeps waving over and over.

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我看到你了。

I see you.

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我在向你挥手。

I'm waving at you.

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我在对你微笑。

I'm smiling at you.

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而他之所以这么在意向人挥手,是有原因的。

And there's a reason why waving at people mattered so much to him.

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四岁的罗曼很孤独。

Four year old Roman was lonely.

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他的父母已经分开了。

His parents had separated.

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爸爸搬到了佛罗里达。

Dad had moved to Florida.

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爷爷奶奶住在外州。

His grandparents lived out of state.

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但罗曼还是一直挥手,最后,他的一个邻居,一位叫韦德的老人,注意到了街对面这个总是挥手的小男孩。

But Roman Roman just kept on waving, and eventually, one of his neighbors, a senior citizen named Wade, noticed this little boy across the street who was always waving.

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有一天,你知道韦德做了什么吗?

And one day, you know what Wade did?

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韦德走过来,做了自我介绍。

Wade walked over and introduced himself.

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接下来故事就变得美好了。

And here's where the story gets beautiful.

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罗曼继续挥手。

Roman kept waving.

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而韦德,顺便说一句,长得有点像圣诞老人,也一直穿过马路来看他,他们开始一起相处。

And Wade, who, by the way, kinda looks like Santa Claus, kept crossing the street and visiting, and they started spending time together.

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然后你猜怎么着?

And then guess what happened?

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随着罗曼一直挥手,街上其他一些老年居民,也就是其他邻居,也开始挥手回应,然后他们开始出现在罗曼家门口。

As Roman kept waving, other senior citizens that lived on the street, other neighbors started waving back, and then they started showing up at Roman's house.

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然后你知道罗曼做了什么吗?

And then you know what Roman did?

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他开始邀请他们去看他的足球比赛。

He started inviting him to his soccer games.

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你知道他们做了什么吗?

And you know what they did?

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他们来了,还去看了他的游泳课,参加了他学校的开放日和他的生日派对。

They came, and they came to his swimming lessons and to his open house at school and his birthday party.

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然后你突然就明白了发生了什么。

And suddenly you see what's happening.

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罗曼一直挥手,韦德一直回来,罗曼一直邀请人们进来,邻居们一直出现。

Roman kept waving and Wade kept coming back and Roman kept inviting people in and the neighbors kept showing up.

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现在罗曼不再孤单了,因为他有一群认来的爷爷奶奶,都是邻居,之前大家互相都不认识。

And now Roman isn't lonely because he has this posse of adopted grandparents that were all neighbors that nobody knew each other.

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有意思的是什么呢?

And here's the thing that's interesting about this.

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没有人做了什么惊天动地的大英雄事迹。

Nobody did some big, enormous, heroic thing.

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什么都没有。

Nothing.

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一切就是从一次简单的挥手开始的。

It all started with a simple wave.

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而罗曼,这个一直感到孤单的小男孩,突然有了一个自己创造出来的大家庭。

And Roman, this little boy who'd been feeling lonely, suddenly had an entire family he had created.

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罗曼的妈妈说,他的孤独感消失了。

Roman's mom said his loneliness was gone.

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但重要的是什么呢?

But here's the important thing.

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罗曼是唯一一个生活被改变的人吗?

Was Roman the only person whose life was changed?

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不是。

No.

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仅仅通过挥手,通过表达同理心,我看到你在那边。

Simply by waving, by demonstrating empathy, I see you over there.

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我想跟你打个招呼。

I want to say hello to you.

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你对我来说很重要。

You matter to me.

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仅仅通过这样做,他最终把十几个邻居聚在了一起,这些邻居都说,如果不是这样,他们彼此几乎不会认识。

By simply doing that, he wound up bringing together a dozen neighbors who have all said they would have barely known one another otherwise.

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你不觉得这很棒吗?

Don't you love that?

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那个需要社区的小男孩,帮助创造了一个社区。

The little boy who needed a community helped create one.

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现在罗曼身边有了一群像他选的祖父母一样的人,这些人彼此理解,这就是我们所说的力量。

And now Roman's got all these, like, chosen grandparents in his life, and these people get each other, that's the power of what we're talking about.

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而这一切都始于最微小的事情,一个挥手。

And it starts with the smallest thing, a wave.

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因为联系就是这样建立起来的。

Because that's how connection is built.

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不是通过你一直等着去做的那些大事。

It's not through some of these big things that you're sitting around waiting to do.

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而是通过你眼前所有的小瞬间,在这些瞬间里你向别人展示:我看见你了。

It's through all the little moments right in front of you where you demonstrate to someone else, I see you.

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我记得。

I remember.

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你在乎的事情,我也在乎。

What matters to you matters to me.

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我想让你想想,你生活中有谁为你做过这样的事。

And I want you to think about the person in your life who's done that for you.

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那个记得你三周前提过的约会的朋友,那个总是问你孩子情况、还能记住他们名字的咖啡师,那个知道今年纪念日会很难熬的兄弟姐妹。

The friend who remembers the appointment you mentioned three weeks ago, the barista who always asks you about your kids and they remember them by name, the sibling who knows an anniversary is gonna be hard this year.

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那个人让你感觉怎么样?

How does that person make you feel?

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你喜欢那个人,对吧?

You like that person, don't you?

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你信任他们。

You trust them.

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你觉得自己跟他们挺亲近的。

You feel kinda close to them.

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甚至可能会跟他们说一些心里话。

Maybe even tell them things.

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你喜欢他们出现在你的生活里,因为有他们,你的日子变得更好了。

You like that they're in your life, and your day is better because of them.

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而你日子变好、喜欢他们的原因,就是他们对你展现了同理心。

And the reason why your day is better and the reason why you like them is because they are demonstrating empathy to you.

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现在你知道你也可以对他们表现出同理心了。

And now you know that you can demonstrate empathy to them.

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事实上,你可以对任何人这样做。

In fact, you can do it to anyone.

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如果你在生活中练习这四种简单的方法来培养和展现同理心,我向你保证,你会在各处看到变化。

If you practice these four simple ways to build the skill and demonstrate the skill of empathy in your life, I promise you, you are going to see a difference everywhere.

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我觉得很明显为什么人们会喜欢你。

I think it's pretty clear why people are going to like you.

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因为当你以这种方式出现在生活中,不再猜测,而是直接问别人发生了什么事、他们过得怎么样,当你主动迈出第一步,当你带着纸盘子、不用别人开口就主动提供支持,当你一直挥手致意,人们喜欢你,是因为他们喜欢和你在一起的感觉,这就是为什么这招管用。

Because when you show up in life this way and you stop guessing and you ask people what's going on and how they're doing, when you're the one that's going first, when you bring the paper plates and show up with the support without being asked, when you keep on waving, people like you because they like how you make them feel, and that's why this works.

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不要低估你在这些微小瞬间里拥有的力量。

Do not underestimate how much power you have in these tiny moments.

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记住那些研究。

And remember the research.

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研究表明,你和我每天大约有九次这样的机会。

The research says that you and I get about nine of these every single day.

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九次机会让别人觉得自己很重要。

Nine chances to make someone else feel like they matter.

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九次机会去放大别人的快乐。

Nine chances to expand the joy that somebody feels.

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九次机会去提供支持,帮助那些感到孤独的人。

Nine chances to offer support and give support to somebody who's feeling alone.

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同理心是你给予别人的东西,而作为回报,你会自我感觉更好,人际关系也更融洽。

Empathy is something you give to another person, and in return, you feel better about yourself and you have better relationships.

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因为每次你让别人感到被看见、被理解、被支持、被庆祝、被记住,天哪,你也会得到同样的回报。

Because every time you make somebody else feel seen, understood, supported, celebrated, remembered, oh my gosh, you will get that back.

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因为重要的不是你做了什么,而是你让别人有什么感受。

Because it's not about what you're doing, it's how you make people feel.

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而同理心就是让你能让他人自我感觉良好的技能。

And empathy is the skill that helps you make other people feel good about themselves.

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当别人因为你的缘故而自我感觉良好时,他们会非常喜欢你。

And when other people feel good about themselves because of you, they like you a lot.

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所以从今天开始,每天练习那四件简单的事情吧。

So start practicing those four simple things every single day.

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因为我学到的关于同理心这个技能,不仅仅是它对别人有什么好处。

Because what I've learned about the skill of empathy is it's not just about what it does for the other person.

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它也会以百倍的方式回报给你。

It will come back a hundredfold to you as well.

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而且你越擅长这个,越练习这四件简单的事情,你就会越喜欢自己,别人也会越喜欢你。

And the better you get at this, the more that you practice these four simple things, the more you're gonna like yourself and the more other people are gonna like you too.

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如果今天没有人以朋友的身份告诉你这些,我想确保告诉你,我爱你,我相信你,我相信你有能力创造更好的生活。

In case no one else tells you this today as your friend, I wanted to be sure to tell you that I love you and I believe in you, and I believe in your ability to create a better life.

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而创造更好生活的最简单方法之一,就是开始和已经在生活中的人创造更好的时刻。

And one of the simplest ways to create a better life is to start creating better moments with the people who are already in it.

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好了。

Alrighty.

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我们下集见。

I'll see you in the very next episode.

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你一按下播放键,我就欢迎你。

I'm gonna welcome you in the moment you hit play.

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好的。

Alright.

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准备好了吗?

Are you ready?

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好。

Okay.

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我们开始吧。

Here we go.

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那是克里斯吗?

Is that Chris?

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进来吧。

Come on in.

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法克森,进来吧。

Faxon, come in.

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他一直在听,回答问题,还帮她……

He was listening, answering questions, and helping her...

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稍等一下。

Hold on a sec.

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抱歉。

Sorry.

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是咖啡的问题。

It's the coffee.

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我的鼻子开始……

My nose is starting to be...

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我没有变得通红。

I'm not bright red.

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我觉得里面没什么东西。

I don't think I have anything in there.

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感觉就像我……

It's like I feel like I'm...

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我的过敏在这个上面越来越严重了。

My allergies are getting worse and worse on this.

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它们是那种让你想起……的故事。

They're the kinds of story that remind you of the...

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抱歉。

Sorry.

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等一下。

A second.

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因为牢固的关系不是偶然发生的。

Because strong relationships don't happen by accident.

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它们是有意为之的。

They happen on purpose.

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而且很多……

And so much...

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好的。

Okay.

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让我看看结尾,看看我们能不能……

Let me just look at the end and see if we can...

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我们就是这么做的。

That's how we do this.

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就在那里。

Right there.

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好的。

Okay.

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我还想感谢今天这期关于同理心节目的赞助商,Amica。

I also wanna thank the sponsor of today's episode about empathy, Amica.

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Amica自1907年以来一直与投保人建立信任关系。

Amica has been building trusted relationships with policyholders since nineteen o seven.

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你想知道他们的客户说是什么让这一切与众不同吗?

And do you wanna know what their customers say makes the difference?

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是人。

It's the people.

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Amica的代表会花时间倾听,回答你的问题,并帮助你对自己的保险方案感到放心。

Amica representatives take the time to listen, answer your questions, and help you feel confident in your coverage.

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这种贴心的个人关怀正是Amica的核心所在。

That kind of personal care is what Amica is all about.

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今天就访问amica.com吧。

Visit amica.com today.

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正如Amica所说,同理心是我们最好的政策。

As they say at Amica, empathy is our best policy.

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哦,还有一件事。

Oh, and one more thing.

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不,这不是花絮。

And no, this is not a blooper.

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这是法律条文。

This is the legal language.

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是律师写的,我需要念给你听。

You know, what the lawyers write and what I need to read to you.

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这个播客仅供教育和娱乐目的。

This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes.

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我只是你的朋友。

I'm just your friend.

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我不是持证治疗师。

I am not a licensed therapist.

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这个播客不能替代医生、专业教练、心理治疗师或其他合格专业人士的建议。

And this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional.

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明白了吗?

Got it?

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好的。

Good.

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我们下期再见。

I'll see you in the next episode.

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