时光飞逝：飞蛾播客

欢迎收听《飞蛾》播客。

Welcome to the Moth Podcast.

本周的主持人是我，各位讲述者。

I'm your host for this week, Tellers.

这期节目的主题是育儿，根据《韦氏词典》，育儿是个名词，但我坚决认为它是个动词。

This week's episode is about parenting, a word that according to Merriam Webster is a noun, but I would certainly argue is a verb.

我14岁那年夏天，我父母正在离婚。

During the summer that I was 14, my parents were getting divorced.

我姨妈玛丽察觉到我们都需要换个环境，便邀请我爸爸、我妹妹和我去她在佛蒙特州的度假屋住几天。

My aunt Mary, who sensed that we could use a getaway, invited my dad, my sister, and I to stay with her in her timeshare in Vermont.

那地方在一座山顶上，是特拉普家族的木屋。

It was at the top of a mountain in the Trapp family lodge.

对，就是《音乐之声》里的那座。

Yes, Of the sound of music.

我们从匹兹堡开了半天车，到了山脚下，我爸把车停到路边，盯着我，又看看我妹妹，然后说：把车窗摇下来。

We drove for a half day from Pittsburgh, and when we finally got to the base of the mountain, my father pulled the car over, locked eyes with me and then my sister, and said, roll down your windows.

然后他把提前选好的磁带塞进播放器，跟着唱了起来

Then he shoved the tape he'd queued up into the deck and sang along with

朱莉·安德鲁斯的歌声被调到了最大音量。

the voice of Julie Andrews dialed up to eleven.

山丘上歌声飞扬

The hills are alive

我们一路向上行驶。

as we made our upward climb.

多年来，这一直是大家公认的‘我爸真典型’的名场面。

For years, this was our go to dad is such a dad story.

但现在回想起来，我才明白，那个夏天他有多努力，只为让两个女儿开心。

But now that story reminds me of how hard my father was trying to keep his two girls happy during a really tough summer.

致所有充满热情的父亲们，我看见了你们，谢谢你们。

To the exuberant dads everywhere, I see you, and thank you.

说到这儿，本周的第一个故事来自卡罗琳·康诺利。

On that note, our first story this week is from Caroline Connolly.

卡罗琳是在波士顿一场以‘道路’为主题的故事会上讲这个故事的。

Caroline told this story at a story slam in Boston where the theme of the night was roads.

以下是卡罗琳·康诺利在莫思故事会的现场实录。

Here's Caroline Connolly live at the Moth.

从我家乡马萨诸塞州的纽伯里波特到纽约市，大概有两百五十英里。

So the distance between my hometown of Newburyport, Massachusetts and New York City is about two fifty miles.

当你十一岁，被塞在一辆沃尔沃旅行车的后排座位上，和姐妹们挤在一起，这段路程足够让你被兄弟姐妹欺负，然后跟信奉天主教的父母宣布：我不信上帝了。

When you're 11 years old and strapped in the way back seat of a Volvo station wagon with your sisters, that is enough time to be assaulted by a sibling and to declare to your conservative Catholic parents that you no longer believe in God.

说实话，我觉得沃尔沃设计后排座可能就是这个用意——它就在车尾的行李厢里，还背对着车里其他所有人。

I And honestly feel like that might be why Volvo made a way back seat because it is in the literal trunk of a car and faces away from everybody else inside the car.

这地方简直像绑匪会把人关的地方，可郊区的妈妈们却说：快上来吧。

And it's like where a kidnapper might put a victim except suburban moms were like, jump in.

肯定特别好玩。

It's gonna be so fun.

说实话，我爸妈这么做，也算是有理由的。

And honestly, my parents had kind of earned this right to do that to us.

这次，我妈妈特意把她的生日让出来，带我们全家去看露西·劳勒斯在百老汇首演的《油脂》。

On this particular occasion, my mom had sacrificed her birthday to take us all to see Lucy Lawless debut in Grease on Broadway.

她就是演《战士公主西娜》的那位演员。

She was the actress who played Xena the Warrior Princess.

我和姐妹们既是西娜的铁粉，也是《油脂》的狂热粉丝，所以这简直是她能送我们的最棒的礼物。

And my sisters and I were huge Xena fans and Grease fans, so this was like the greatest gift she could ever give us.

一路上前半段倒还平平无奇。

And the first part of the ride was relatively unremarkable.

我妈妈会给我们一小把茶苯海明，她到现在还坚持说这药不犯困。

My mom would give us little fistfuls of Dramamine that to this day she swears we're non drowsy.

我在这儿可不敢说我妈撒谎或者当毒贩，但小时候我们坐车确实经常晕乎乎的。

And I'm not gonna call my mother a liar or a drug dealer on this stage, but we had some very foggy car rides as kids.

但这次特别清楚，因为开了大概两小时，我爸爸一边开车一边找麦当劳，想买杯他最爱的大杯香草奶昔。

But this one was pretty clear because about two hours into it, my dad is driving down the highway and he's looking for a Mc McDonald's so that he can get a large vanilla milkshake as he always liked to do.

我妈妈突然问他：‘票呢？’

And my mom says to him, hey, where are the tickets?

他却一脸茫然地问：什么票？

And he responds with this benign, what tickets?

好像完全不记得我们为啥一大早就开着沃尔沃往纽约开似的。

As if he has like no idea why we're all in the Volvo heading to New York City.

她重复道：票啊！

And she's like, the tickets.

其实没人拿着票，毕竟那是1997年。

Well, no one had the tickets because this was like 1997.

莫名其妙的是，大家想出的唯一办法就是掉头，一路开回纽伯里波特，去取当晚演出的票。

Inexplicably, the only solution to this problem was to turn around and drive all the way back to Newburyport to get the tickets for the show that night.

等我们第二次启程前往纽约时，晕车药的药效已经快过去了。

So by the time we start our second trip to New York City, the Dramamine has started to wear off.

后座上简直像突然闯进了三只发疯的野猫。

And it was as if like three feral cats had come alive in the back seat of my parents Volvo.

我小妹突然大哭起来，说她饿得不行了。

So my little sister suddenly bursts into tears because she's starving.

我姐姐突然想起来我还在这儿。

And my older sister suddenly remembers that I exist.

结果我的腿不知怎么伸到了她那边的座位上，这可是要挨一记耳光的重罪。

And apparently my leg had shifted to her side of the way back seat, which was a crime punishable by a swift punch to the side of my head.

我个子小，但脾气一点不怂，只好抢过她的任天堂掌机，举起来威胁说要舔遍所有按键——虽然恶心，但特别管用，她当场尖叫起来，我妈立刻猛转过身，扔出她那时候最爱说的那句老话：‘姑娘们，上帝在看着你们。’

And because I was smaller but no less insane, my only recourse was to take her Nintendo Game Boy and hold it up and threaten to lick all of the buttons on the surface, which is gross but super effective because she let out this blood curdling scream, which prompted my mother to whip around and issue a threat that she loved to give us at this time in our lives, which was, girls, God is watching you.

因为我坐在后排，跟妈妈隔了一整排，我就转过身说：‘那正好，我根本不信上帝。’

And because I was in the way back seat and separated from my mom by like an entire row, I turned around and I was like, well, good thing I don't believe in God.

这话一出口，车立马就停了。

Well, we pulled over really quickly after that.

亚当·麦克唐纳和我爸直接跳下车，他压根不想管这摊事儿。

Adam McDonald's and my dad jumps out of the car because he had no interest in this portion of parenting.

我妈绕到后排，脸凑到我跟前，压低声音说：‘你要是不道歉，我就告诉露丝你刚才说的话。’

And so my mom comes around to the back seat where I was and it gets really close to my face and she says, you better apologize for that or I am telling sister Ruth what you said.

如果你在天主教学校上过学，你就懂了——姐妹的威胁，比妈妈或上帝的惩罚可怕多了。

And if you have ever been a kid since a Catholic school, you know the threat of a sister is way worse than like whatever your mother or God could ever do to you.

所以我赶紧说：对不起对不起，我可喜欢上帝和耶稣了，还有天上所有的人。

So I was like, I am so sorry, I love God and Jesus and like everybody up there with them.

事情一解决，我们就进了麦当劳，终于找到我爸，他正点他的大杯香草奶昔。

And once that was settled, we went inside the McDonald's and we found my dad finally ordering his large vanilla milkshake.

他给我们买了几个开心乐园餐，然后大家又回到车上坐好。

And he gets us some Happy Meals, and we all go out to the car and get back in.

他把奶昔放在驾驶座上，绕到后座来。

And he places his shake down in the driver's seat and comes around to the back.

他还是那副平静的样子，对我们说：你们能不能别闹了，剩下的路好好相处？

Very calmly, as he always is, says to us, look, could you guys please just get along for the remainder of this ride?

今天可是你妈的生日啊。

It's your mother's birthday after all.

他坐回前座，一屁股直接压在那杯大杯香草奶昔上，结果奶昔瞬间炸开，全溅到了方向盘、挡风玻璃，还有我妈身上。

And he gets back in the front and he sits down right on top of that large vanilla milkshake, which causes this, like, explosion of dairy on the steering wheel and the windshield and my mom.

那时候我虽然知道哪些是脏话，但还从来没听过有人说得这么到位。

And I was at an age where like I knew what swear words were, but I had never heard one delivered super well just yet.

于是他一下子爆了一连串脏话。

And so he dropped with force a slew of expletives.

我记得我和姐妹们对视了一眼，心想：我们是不是把爸惹毛了？

And I remember my sisters and I looked at each other like, did we just break dad?

之后一路我们都沉默不语，谁也不敢招惹他。

And so we drove the rest of the way in silence because nobody wanted to cross him.

到了纽约，我们住进了妈妈订的高档酒店，去看露西·劳勒斯，她太棒了，回来后又回到酒店，那天晚上对我们全家来说真是特别美好。

And we get to New York City, and we check into this fancy hotel my mom had booked, and we go see Lucy Lawless, and she's amazing, and we go back to the fancy hotel, and it's actually a pretty fabulous night in New York City for our family.

第二天早上，我们又挤进沃尔沃，所有人都特别乖。

The next morning, we all pile into the Volvo again and everybody is on their best behavior today.

我和姐妹们唯一抱怨的是，酒店的床单有点扎人，一整天都在抓痒。

The only thing my sisters and I were complaining about was that we thought the beds at the fancy hotel were kind of itchy and we're like scratching ourselves all morning.

过了几个小时，开了几百英里后，妈妈才意识到我们仨都在酒店染上了头虱。

It would be a few hours and a couple 100 miles later before my mother realized we had all contracted lice at the hotel.

你可能会想，经过妈妈和爸爸带着三个女孩连续洗了好几次冰凉的去虱洗发水后。

And you would think that after like several freezing cold lice shampoo baths with a mom and dad and these three girls.

谁还愿意再开长途车啊。

No one would want to take a road trip ever again.

可我们后来又开了几十次，到现在还在开。

But, we've actually got on dozens more and we still go on them today.

我爸爸现在七十多岁了，每次去还是非得要一路喝香草奶昔，回来也一样。

And, my dad is in his seventies now and he still demands a vanilla shake on the way there and on the way back.

不知怎么的，我们一家人到现在还是坐那辆沃尔沃旅行车。

And for whatever reason we are all still in a Volvo station wagon.

但说实话，我们真的一点都不想换别的车。

But truthfully we would would have it no other way.

谢谢。

Thanks.

这是卡罗琳·康诺利。

That was Caroline Connolly.

卡罗琳·康诺利是一位住在波士顿的记者。

Caroline Connolly is a reporter who lives and works in Boston.

她也喜欢恐怖片，还爱看浪漫喜剧的混剪片段。

She enjoys horror films as well as a good romantic comedy montage.

不讲故事的时候，她喜欢跑步，也对下厨有点兴趣。

When she's not telling stories, she loves to run and likes the idea of cooking.

我们后来联系了卡罗琳，她说，我们上一次全家出游是几年前去的伯克希尔地区。

When we followed up with Caroline, she said, our last family trip was a visit to the Berkshires a few years ago.

虽然我和姐妹们现在都成年了，住在不同的城市，但妈妈还是坚持让我们一起开车去。

Even though my sisters and I are now adults living in different cities, our mom insisted we all drive together.

我在后座坐了四个小时，听着爸爸打呼噜，妈妈还问我们几个有没有打算尽快结婚。

I spent four hours in the back seat listening to my father snore, and my mother asked if any of us thought we would be married soon.

当然，我们坐的还是那辆沃尔沃旅行车。

We were, of course, in a Volvo station wagon.

好吧。

Okay.

瞒不住了。

The jig is up.

我说这档播客是讲育儿的，其实它更像一档特别小众的节目，讲的是我老爸如何让我对百老汇着了迷。

I said this was a podcast themed on parenting, and it's really a very niche podcast about my family obsession with Broadway as nurtured by my dad.

我们的下一位讲述者也登上了百老汇的舞台。

Our next storyteller also made it to Broadway.

克里斯托弗·蒙卡约-托雷斯是在纽约一场名为‘家’的The Moth故事会上讲的这个故事。

Christopher Moncayo-Torres told this at a Moth Story Slam in New York City where the theme of the night was home.

这是克里斯托弗在The Moth现场的实录。

Here's Christopher live at the Moth.

2004年8月，我19岁，站在即将成为我卧室的门口，我要和我爸一起住，而我从两岁起就没见过他。

August 2004, I'm 19, I'm at the doorway of what's going to be my new bedroom, which I'm sharing with my dad who I haven't seen since I was two.

卧室左边收拾得干干净净。

Left side of the bedroom is super clean.

上面那张床垫，是他从我这儿搬走的。

It's got a mattress that he stole from me.

右边是他那一边，满地都是西联汇款单、撕碎的刮刮乐彩票，还有到处乱放的DVD。

On the right side is his side, that's mostly Western Union receipts, ripped up scratch off lottery cards, lots of movies all over the ground.

但每天晚上，他都只看同一部电影，不是《终结者》，也不是《虎胆龙威》，而是《屋顶上的小提琴手》。

But every night, he always watched the same movie, not Terminator, not Die Hard, but Fiddler on the Roof.

我说不清楚这个厄瓜多尔男人为什么这么喜欢《屋顶上的小提琴手》，但他每晚都看，还总会叫我——他多年未见的儿子——陪他一起看。

I can't tell you why this Ecuadorian man loved Fiddler on the Roof, but he watched it every night and he would ask me, his estranged son, Come watch Fiddler on the Roof with me.

我就说：不去。

And I was like, No.

除了这部电影长达三个半小时，甚至更久之外，那时候我根本不想待在这么小的房间里。

Besides the fact that it's like a three and a half hour or however many hour saga, I at that time just didn't feel comfortable being in this very small room.

我说的小，就是那种U-Haul小货车的后厢，就是那种你可能租得起的最小型号。

When I say small, you know like the back of a U Haul, like the tiny truck that you could probably afford?

就是那种大小。

Like small in that.

所以我通常都待在客厅，干脆就在客厅睡了。

So I would usually be in the living room and I would actually sleep in the living room of this apartment.

他其实是从一个他认识的女房东那儿租了这间房。

So he was renting a room from this lady friend that he knew.

其实离这儿不远，就在39街和皇后大道交叉口，走几个街区就到了。

It's actually not too far from here, like 39th Place and Queens Boulevard, so a couple blocks away.

我一直拒绝他，后来心里挺过意不去的，结果同年十月，《屋顶上的小提琴手》居然在百老汇上演了。

And I kind of felt bad after just always saying no that serendipitously in October, same year, Fiddler on the Roof was on Broadway.

阿尔法·莫利纳主演，我想着，不如给他个惊喜，买两张票吧。

Alfa Molina was playing the lead and I was like, I'll surprise him, I'll get tickets.

我和我爸之间有点语言障碍，你知道的，父子之间的那种，我的西班牙语嘛，大概就那么回事吧。

Now here's the thing, I have kind of a language barrier, like yes, father son language barrier, but my espanol is very if you catch my drift.

我就跟我爸说：‘走，咱们出去吧。’

So I told dad, Hey, outside, let's go.

我带了本翻译小册子，但根本没用，他倒直接说：‘你待会儿听到的西班牙语，都是我背好的。’

And I have a little translation book that's not working for me, and he's just like And whatever Spanish you're about to hear right now is very rehearsed.

你还是别去了。

Just stay home.

咱们就在家看《屋顶上的小提琴手》吧。

Let's watch Fiddler on Roof.

我们看了《屋顶上的提琴手》。

Vimos Fiddler on the Roof.

我当时就说：别了，咱们走吧。

And I'm like, No, let's go.

我请客，全部我来付。

I'll pay for everything.

他立马说：太好了，走吧。

He's like, Great, let's go.

去那路上，我紧张得不行。

The trip there, super anxious.

我爸喜欢在7号地铁车厢连接处抽烟，还老爱停下来，不急着走，非得给你讲个故事。

My father likes to smoke in between the train carts of the seven train, and he also likes to stop, not walk a talk, he likes to stop and tell you a story.

你想想，要在时代广场这么干。

Imagine doing that in Times Square.

我们最后到了，虽然迟了，但刚好赶上了开场曲《传统》，懂的都懂。

So we finally get there, but we're super late, but just enough to hear the opening song, Tradition, for those who know.

这是重头戏，道出了整个小镇和这个犹太家庭的故事。

That's the big number, and it gives the whole story of the town and this Jewish family.

我一看，心想：天啊，他肯定激动坏了。

And I look, and I'm like, Oh man, he's probably gonna be super excited.

他一定会被深深打动。

He's gonna be moved.

他一定会觉得太棒了。

He's gonna be amazing.

自从进来之后，他一句话都没说。

He hasn't been saying anything since we got in.

我怀疑他根本没搞清楚我们在哪儿。

I don't really think he understood where we are.

一点动静都没有。

Dead.

他睡着了。

He's asleep.

我那颗被遗弃的小小心灵，简直心碎了。

I, my little abandoned child heartbroken.

我推了他一下，他却完全没反应，整场演出都在睡。

I nudge him and he's just like, Rest of the show, sleeping.

他真正醒过来，是在唱《假如我是富人》的时候，他特别喜欢这首歌。

He really woke up for like, If I Were a Rich Man, he loved that song.

还有一首歌，我不知道有没有人听过，叫《如果你爱我》。

And there is this one song, I think maybe if anybody knows it, but If You Love Me.

丈夫问妻子：如果你爱我……

Husband's asking the wife, If You Love Me.

她直接回他：你真是个傻瓜，差不多就是这意思。

And she's just like, You're an idiot, more or less.

我都跟你过了二十多年了，你干嘛还问这种问题？

Because I've been with you for twenty some odd years, why are gonna ask me that question?

他还在那儿不停地问。

He keeps asking.

梅莉娜，阿尔弗雷德·梅莉娜，演到这儿的时候，他问这个问题停了特别久的停顿。

Melina, Alfred Melina, when he was doing this, he just took these really long beats in asking this question.

就在其中一个特别长的停顿里，我们坐在楼座——那会儿我只能负担得起纽约市立大学的票价。

In one of those really long beats mind you, we're in the balcony because it's all I could afford, like in a CUNY tuition.

全场安静得不得了。

And it's super quiet.

突然，我听见有人问：‘那你爱我吗？’

And suddenly I hear, But do you love me?

我爸爸说的这句台词。

And my dad says the line.

我当时就想：哦，这还挺棒。

I And was like, Oh, that's cool.

周围的人开始笑，但这是在剧院里，大家都屏着呼吸，笑声反而特别响。

And people around us started laughing, but like in a really quiet theater, like how everyone's quiet right now, like it's really loud when you laugh.

于是梅莉娜就朝我们这边看了过来。

And so Aphromalina like looked in our direction.

我父亲对我来说就像拉丁版的保罗·班扬，可那一刻，他整个人都缩了下去。

And like my father, who like for me was like the Latin Paul Bunyan of my life, like shrunk.

梅利纳继续唱着歌。

Melina just continues with the song.

演出结束了。

The show's over.

我得说，我们在唱《远离我爱的家》时都哭了，那首歌真的特别打动人。

I will say this much, we did cry both at that Far From the Home I Love, I think is one of those songs.

我们走到外面，他正跟那张巨大的海报合影，特维耶双臂高高举起，这时我听见后台杰西卡的门那边传来一阵骚动，我转过头，心想：这可是百老汇啊，我从小没接触过戏剧，但我知道，观众通常会找演员要签名。

So we're outside, he's taking a photo with the big poster, Tevye's arms are big up in the air, and then I hear from the backstage, Jessica's door, some ruckus, I turn around, and I'm going go to Broadway, I didn't grow up with theater, but I'm like, Oh, I think people get signatures from these people.

我当时就说：爸，咱们也去要个签名吧。

I was like, Dad, let's go do this.

我父亲却摆摆手：不，mi hou, hace la casa。

And my dad's just like, No, mi hou, hace la casa.

我说：咱们回家吧。

I was Let's go home.

我当时就想，为什么啊？

I was like, Why?

我想啊，也许他是害怕，或者觉得不好意思。

And I figured, Oh, maybe he's scared, maybe he's embarrassed.

我一把拽住他的袖子，就像管自家孩子一样。

I grabbed him by his sleeve like he's my kid.

我就说，先生，

And I'm like, Hey, Mr.

莫利纳，我们特别喜欢您的演出。

Molina, we love your show.

我说，对吧，爸？

I'm like, Right, dad?

我爸可喜欢看电影了。

My dad loves the movies.

这还是他头一回看现场演出。

It's the first time he's seeing this live.

我爸爸当时直摇头。

And my dad's like shaking his head.

梅丽娜说：哦，这太动人了。

And Melina is like, oh, that's beautiful.

接着我跟他说了发生在楼座的事。

And then I recount what happened in the balcony.

他一点都没笑。

And he didn't laugh.

但他眉毛特别浓密，我就觉得

But then he like he's got big thick eyebrows, so I feel like

他用眉毛一动，就盯着我爸爸看。

he just moved me with them, and he just looks at my father.

他问：真有这事儿？

He's like, is that true?

你真说了我的那句台词？

Did you say my line?

我爸爸点头表示同意。

And my dad's like shakes his head, yes.

他伸出粗壮的手臂，搭在我爸爸肩上，一把搂住他。

And he takes his huge arm and he puts it on his shoulder, and he grabs my dad.

梅莉娜个子可真高。

And Melina's a tall dude.

他跟我说：干得漂亮，你完成百老汇首秀了，恭喜你，太棒了！

He's like, Good job, you made your Broadway debut, congratulations, way to go.

我爸爸连声说：是啊是啊是啊是啊。

And my dad's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

他拉着人说：托蒙·福尔塔，快拍张照。

Grabs him, he's like, Tomun Folta, take a photo.

我当时就说：好啊，没问题。

And I'm like, Okay, cool.

赶紧拍张照。

Take the photo.

我们正往家走，我爸一直盯着那张照片看个不停，我慢慢明白了，原来你就是故事里那个主角。

We're on our way home and my dad's just enamored with this photo He just keeps just looking at it and I kind of figure it out in my own interpretation, Oh, you're this dude in this story.

这是我第一次看到这张照片。

This is the first time I had ever seen it.

这位移民老人，远离家人，却还在努力撑着。

This immigrant man, far away from his family, and he's trying to hold it together.

那时候，我和我爸都在摸索我们之间到底是什么关系，我就把心里的想法全告诉他了。

At this point, me and my dad are trying to figure out who we are to each other, and I tell him all this.

他一句都没听懂，但只是说：‘美穗，晚安。’

He doesn't understand a word of it, but he just says, Miho, good night.

那真是个不错的夜晚。

This was a good night.

他穿过车厢连接处，又点了一支烟，影子映在暗处，活像《屋顶上的小提琴手》，正往皇后区广场方向回去。

He goes in between the train cars, he's smoking another cigarette, he looks like the Phil on the Roof because it's in the shadows, he's returning to Queensborough Plaza.

回到家后，那天晚上，我第一次和他睡在同一个房间里。

And then when we get home, I actually that night was the first time I slept in the room with him together.

谢谢。

Thank you.

这是克里斯托弗·蒙卡约-托雷斯。

That was Christopher Moncayo-Torres.

克里斯托弗是来自纽约皇后区的厄瓜多尔裔美国剧作家、教学艺术家和现场故事讲述者。

Christopher is an Ecuadorian American playwright, teaching artist, and live storyteller born and bred in Queens, New York.

他当初为了假装在准备法医心理学学位，才开始写创意文字。

He first practiced creative writing while pretending to study for his forensic psychology degree.

后来他创办了‘Fail Better NYC’，一个以BIPOC群体为核心的艺术家社群，定期举办并主持名为‘Fail Better Storytime’的月度故事分享会。

He's since founded Fail Better NYC, a BIPOC centered artist community where he produces and hosts a monthly storytelling workshop show, Fail Better Storytime.

我们后来问了克里斯托弗，他现在和父亲的关系怎么样。

We followed up with Christopher about his relationship with his father now.

这是克里斯托弗的原话。

Here's Christopher.

我多希望告诉你，后来我们又有了很多那样的夜晚，我们一直保持着联系，我真的希望是这样。

I wish I could tell you the follow-up is that we had more nights like that, that we remain connected, and I really wish we did.

但要是这么收尾，感觉太假了，也不符合讲故事的本意

But it feels insincere and not what storytelling is for

我

me

如果我在结尾塞个甜美的结局的话。

if I gave some sweet button at the end.

你瞧，我和他已经一年没说话了。

You see him and I haven't spoken in a year.

要说一个更真实的后续，我觉得我和父亲的关系，就像屋顶塌了一角——至少托比是这么形容的。

The most I can say that feels like a realistic follow-up is that my relationship with my father is in itself like a fell on the roof, at least to how Toby explains it.

当父亲不容易。

Fathers are hard.

当儿子也一样难。

I figure sons are just as difficult.

我和父亲之间这种疏离的关系，对我来说就像一座高得吓人的屋顶。

Relationships between strange fathers and son has felt like a pretty high roof to me.

直到现在我也不确定我们俩是否知道该怎么维持平衡，但我们试过了，现在我们从那屋顶上摔了下来。

I'm not sure even till now if him and I know how to keep our balance, But we tried, and now we've fallen off that roof.

听到The Moth讲起那个晚上我表达爱意的举动，尤其是最近我一直在想他，这感觉像是一种暗示——我向来很看重这些暗示。

So hearing from the Moth about my gesture of love from that night, especially when I've been thinking a lot about him these days, feels like a sign, and I am very big on signs.

这么久没和他说话，我一直不知道该怎么开口，但也许我可以把这份心意重新包装一下，告诉他：我们第一次共同讲述的故事，即将公之于众，也许这样能帮我们重新开始，找回那份平衡。

I haven't been sure how to start the conversation with him after not talking with him for this long, but maybe I can present this gesture to him repackaged that our first story together is gonna be shared with the world, and maybe that can help us try again and keep that balance.

那

That

这是克里斯托弗·蒙卡约-托雷斯。

was Christopher Moncayo-Torres.

为人父母没有唯一正确的方式。

There is no one way to parent.

向父母表达爱意也没有唯一正确的方式。

There is no one way to show love to a parent.

爱任何人，都没有唯一正确的方式。

There is no one way to love anyone.

不过在我家，经常是一起唱歌。

In my family though, it often includes a sing along.

好的。

Okay.

好了，孩子们。

Alright, kiddos.

我们一起来，一、二、三。

We're gonna say it one two three.

咱们一起说好吗？

Can we say it together?

讲个故事，过个有故事的一周。

A story Have a story worthy week.

我们再试一次。

Let's try again.

准备好了吗？

Ready?

祝你这一周充满精彩的故事。

Have a story worthy week.

这是凯特·泰勒斯和她的孩子们。

That was Kate Tellers and her children.

凯特·泰勒斯是一位故事讲述者、主持人，也是The Moth的MothWorks总监。

Kate Tellers is a storyteller, host, and director of MothWorks at the Moth.

她的故事《但别忘了带奶酪》收录在The Moth的《这一切奇迹：直面未知的真实故事》中，她的文章还刊登过《McSweeney's》和《纽约客》。

Her story, but also bring cheese, is featured in the Moth's All These Wonders, True Stories About Facing the Unknown, and her writing has appeared on McSweeney's and The New Yorker.

本播客由朱莉娅·珀塞尔制作。

Podcast production by Julia Pursell.