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That's wildnutrition.com/motherkind so you can nourish your body and build a strong foundation for conception.
具体条款请见官网。
Ts and Cs apply.
直觉不是一种天赋。
Intuition is not a gift.
而是一种能调准频率的能力。
It is an ability to tune into frequency.
你生活中有没有什么难题，总在你脑子里转个不停？
Do you have a challenge in your life that gets you spinning in your head?
我害怕把答案说出口。
I'm afraid of Answer out loud.
把手放在心口上。
Hand on heart.
我的内心在说
And my spirit says
天啊，这让我起了一身鸡皮疙瘩。
Oh, that gave me goosebumps.
索尼娅·肖奎特是一位世界知名的灵性导师和直觉引导者。
Sonia Choquette is a world renowned spiritual teacher and intuitive guide.
你会感觉更踏实、更自信，重新与你的直觉建立连接。
You're going to feel more grounded, more confident, and connected back to your intuition.
我教过我的孩子这种内在的关联。
I taught my kids this interconnection.
我们需要呼吸，需要空间，我们管这叫能量暂停。
We need breath, we need space, we call it energy time out.
你能让孩子学会信任自己。
But you empower your children to trust themselves.
对孩子来说，另一件重要的事是，我们天生就具备这种能力。
And the other important thing to do with your kids is we all inherently are hardwired to do that.
但我们都已经被外界磨掉了这种本能。
We've been conditioned out.
你也经历了很多。
You've also been through so much.
我曾在六周内接连失去了哥哥、父亲和丈夫。
I lost brother, father, husband in about six weeks.
我曾经为过去的身份感到难过，但我并不留恋那种状态。
I was grieving an identity, but I wasn't missing it.
人生总有意外发生，所以我给你分享一个好用的方法。
Life happens, So here's a good tool.
索尼娅，我一直特别期待和你聊一聊。
Sonia, I've been looking forward to this chat.
非常感谢
Thank you so
真的经历了很多。
much.
能来到这里我特别开心。
I'm very excited to be here.
我刚在说，对你来说这种感觉肯定很奇妙吧，毕竟有那么多人早就在生活中熟悉了你、依赖着你。
I was saying it must be strange for you because you must meet so many people for whom you've been in their lives for a long time.
我也一样，你早就出现在我的生活里了。
And yet the same with me, you've been in my life for a long time
听着，我真的很开心。
listening I'm so and glad.
但你一开口，我就觉得特别自在。
And yet you've just I feel at home.
我在这里感到非常放松，也特别愉快。
I feel completely comfortable and happy to be here.
因为这一切都关乎能量和频率。
Because it's all a matter of vibration and frequency.
只要连接对了，就像插上电灯一样。
So if the connection is there, it's like plugging a light in.
瞬间就通了。
It's instantly connected.
我接触的很多社区里的妈妈们，都有年幼的孩子，很容易就陷在那种忙碌的节奏里，对吧？
So many people right now that I speak to in my community, they're moms, they've got young kids, and it's so easy to get on that treadmill, right?
就是
Of
只是在忙活着。
just doing.
很多人对我说，我感觉很脱节。
And a lot of people say to me, I feel disconnected.
说实话，我现在也有点这种感觉。
If I'm honest, I feel a bit like that at the moment.
你得把生活安排得能让你保持连接。
Well, you have to set your life up in a way that keeps you connected.
关键是要清楚什么能让你保持连接。
And the way to do it is to know what keeps you connected.
因为只要你连接着，你的孩子也会跟着连接。
Because if you're connected, your kids are connected.
只需要一点点空间，一点点心理上的余地。
And it's a little bit of space, Just a little bit of mental space.
我们需要喘口气。
We need breath.
我们需要空间。
We need space.
我们需要不被打扰。
We need no input.
你得把手机收起来，放下那些电子设备。
You have to put your phone away, your technology down.
回到你的身体里，深呼吸，开始倾听内在的能量和直觉。
You get back in your body and you breathe and you begin to listen to your inner energy, your inner senses.
这其实非常自然。
And it's so natural.
重新建立连接最简单的方法，我有个特别简单的工具。
Easiest way to get reconnected, I actually have a tool that is so easy.
抬头看看外面，留意眼前正对着你的某样东西。
You look up and look out, notice something eyes open right in front of you.
这样做能让你回到身体里，回到当下。
What that does is it brings you back to your body, back to the moment.
吸气之后，停一下，别收紧，就只是停住。
So once you inhale, I want you to pause, Don't contract, just pause.
然后用腹部把气送到脊背，收腹贴向脊背，呼气时轻轻‘呼’一声，同时心里想着放下一切。
And then with your belly, you breathe your belly to your spine, you pull your belly to your spine, you exhale with a whoosh, but you have in mind letting go of everything.
再来一次。
Do it again.
慢慢吸气，然后停住。
Breathe in slowly and pause.
看看别的东西。
Look at something else.
保持当下。
Stay present.
再做一次，腹部贴向脊背，把脑子里所有东西都放掉，就现在，轻轻‘呼’一声。
Again, belly to spine and let everything in your mind go, just for now, with a whoosh.
第三次呼吸时，想象气息从脚底往上，缓缓升到心口位置。
Then the third breath, imagine you're breathing from your feet up into your heart space.
停一下。
Pause.
再吸一口气，让气息升到头顶。
Take a second breath up to your crown.
现在张开下巴，直到你耳朵里感觉到一声轻响。
Now open your jaw until you feel a click in your ear.
感觉到了吗？
Do you feel it?
然后带着一声叹息，让感觉缓缓沉入心口。
And then slide with a sigh into your heart.
真舒服。
So nice.
而且
And
接着微笑。
then smile.
就笑笑吧。
Just smile.
让内心的光芒充满你。
And let the light of your spirit fill you up.
留意一下你脑子里在想什么。
And notice what's going on in your head.
好像什么都没有。
It's kind of nothing.
对。
Right.
真奇怪。
That's weird.
很安静。
It's quiet.
是的。
Yeah.
你已经重新连接上了。
You're reconnected.
你已经重新连接上了。
You're reconnected.
所以我管这叫两口气加一个滑动。
So, I call it two breaths and a slide.
你随时都可以做。
You can do it at any time.
我特别喜欢这一点，因为孩子闹腾的时候你也能做。
I love that because you can do it when the kids are going nuts.
你知道吗？
And you know what?
你还可以教他们这么做。
You can teach them to do it.
对。
Yes.
我们一起做。
We do it together.
我从小就开始教女儿们这么做。
I taught my daughters to do this when they were young.
我们管这叫‘能量暂停’，而不是像平时压力大时那样躲开或闹矛盾——通常我们一崩溃，要么躲起来，要么惹事，结果反而让大家都想让你冷静一下。
And it's just a way, we call it energy time out, rather than having to withdraw, which what we do when we get overwhelmed generally is we'll either withdraw or cause drama, which then makes us withdraw because everybody wants you in time out.
这种方式能让你抽离，又不会引发冲突。
And this is a way to be in a disconnect without causing drama.
只需回到当下。
Just come back to the moment.
啊。
Ah.
‘啊’能打开心扉。
Ah opens the heart.
这个声音加上微笑，就像拉开心门的窗帘，让你重新充满能量，不再钻牛角尖。
That sound and a smile pulls the curtains of your heart open, re energizes you and gets you out of your head.
这就是重新连接的意义。
And that's what a reconnection is.
太好了。
So good.
你从一开始就用这种方式带孩子吗？
Did you raise your children this way from the get go?
从一开始，我就是被这样带大的。
From the beginning, I was raised this way.
你小时候是怎么被这样带大的？
How were you raised this way?
因为那样
Because that
肯定很特别，真的很特别。
must have been unusual Unusual.
我们家算是怪异的一家，我一共有七个兄弟姐妹。
We were the weirdo family, I'm one of seven.
我妈妈是个极其特别的直觉型人物。
My mom was an incredible unicorn of an intuitive.
很多人都来找她寻求指引。
People came to her for guidance.
她很有灵气，也很有艺术气质。
She was magical, she was artistic.
但妈妈做过两件事，直到今天依然塑造着我的人生方向。
But the thing my mom did, there were two things she did that to this day have set the course of my life.
小时候我们兄弟姐妹多，不管什么事，从很小到青春期，我们都会跑去问她能不能做。
The first is when we were little, and there were a lot of us and we would go ask for permission or for this or that clear into when I was a teenager.
她总说：在回答你之前，先深呼吸，问问你的内心，这对你来说对不对。
She would say, Before I answer, take a breath and ask your spirit if it's right for you.
什么才是对你真正合适的？
What's right for you?
我记得从四五岁开始，我就这样做了。
I remember doing this when I was four, five, six, seven.
所以，她教我第一件事不是向外看，而是回到自己内心。
So rather than look outward, the first thing was to come back to self.
然后她会问：这个感觉对你来说对吗？
And then she'd say, Does that feel right for you?
这是你的内在在跟你说话吗？
Is that your spirit talking to you?
那我们就这么办。
Then we'll do that.
我就是这么被养大的，把内在的声音当作自己的指引。
And that was how I was raised, to connect to my spirit as my guide.
你能立刻做到吗？
Could you do that instantly?
我想象如果我现在问我女儿，她可没受过这种训练，她肯定会说：对，我的内在就想吃巧克力，谢谢！
Because I imagine if I asked my little girl now, because she's not been trained in that, she would say, Yes, my spirit wants me to have the chocolate, thank you very much.
那你就会问：这真的是你内心的真实想法吗？
And you would say, Is that really true?
是的。
Yeah.
那就让她吃吧。
And then let her have it.
当时就给她，因为最重要的是先去夸她内在的灵性有多美好。
In the moment, because eventually what you want to do first is talk about what a beautiful spirit she is.
不是说她‘拥有’灵性，而是说她‘就是’灵性。
Not that she has, that she is.
这个美好的灵性会一直照顾她，永远知道什么对她最好，永远陪伴她、保护她。
And this beautiful spirit will always take care of her, always know what's right for her, always is with her and protects her.
这样，她才能真正认识自己。
And that way she starts to recognize herself correctly.
她会开始明白：我是一个有力量、有创造力、能影响自己人生的存在，我不必害怕。
She starts to recognize that I am a spirit that has power, that is creative, that can influence my life, that I don't have to be afraid.
然后她可能会说：我是个五岁的小孙女，就是特别爱吃巧克力。
And then she might say, I a five year old granddaughter who loves a chocolate.
她会说，奶奶，我的灵告诉我可以吃巧克力。
And she'll say, Nana, my spirit says I can have a chocolate.
我会问，是吗？
And I'll say, Is that right?
你的灵真是这么说的？
Is that what your spirit says?
她会停一下，然后说，嗯，我得先吃蛋白质。
And she'll pause and she'll say, Well, I have my protein first.
我会说，那就好，你知道自己什么该吃。
And I'll say, Okay, then you know what's good for you.
她会自己掌握节奏。
And she'll pace herself.
这其实是最近才发生的事，因为当时是复活节彩蛋。
Now this was just a recent conversation because it was Easter eggs.
虽然说的是巧克力，但你要教会孩子信任自己，去内省，而不是把掌控权交出去。
It was chocolates are But you empower your children to trust themselves, to check-in instead of give their power away.
相信我，等孩子到了青春期，你就会特别希望他们有这种能力。
And believe me, by the time they become teenagers, you'll want that.
因为那时候他们容易被别人的情绪和想法牵着走，遭人欺负，而你教给他们的这种内在连接，能帮他们稳住自己。
Because that's when they start getting pulled off and into the vibrations and the agendas of others and get bullied and you have this inner connection.
我就是这么教我孩子的，让他们建立这种内在的连接。
I taught my kids this inner connection.
我们这一代人总被灌输一个观念——除非能用逻辑讲清楚，否则就不算数，不过幸好，这种想法正在改变。
And the other important thing to do with your kids is we've been trained, and this is changing, thank goodness, that unless our logic justify something, it's not real.
现在这种观念已经在转变了。
Now that is changing.
但直到今天，还是有客户跟我说：‘我不知道为什么，但我就是有这种感觉。’我会说：‘你其实知道为什么。’
But still to this day I have clients who say, I don't know why, but I feel, and I say, You do know why.
那就是你的直觉在告诉你。
It is your intuition.
原因就在这里。
That is why.
你不需要什么合理的理由。
You don't need a logical reason.
所以我对孩子们的做法，跟我妈妈带大我的方式一样：只要他们觉得哪里不对劲、不舒服，心里不踏实，根本不用解释清楚。
So with my kids, what I did with them, same as what my mom raised me, is if they ever had what I called an uncomfortable vibe, a bad vibe, they didn't feel good, They did not have to explain it.
他们只需要过来捏捏我的手就行。
All they had to do was come and squeeze my hand.
捏两下，我们就走。
Two squeezes, we're out.
捏两下。
Two squeezes.
直到现在，他们还是这样。
They do it to this day.
这等于在说：我会认可你的感受。
And that says, I will validate your experience.
因为直觉不是什么天赋。
Because intuition is not a gift.
这是一种感知频率的能力。
It is an ability to tune into frequency.
我们每个人都有，孩子天生就具备。
And we all have that and children have it naturally.
但他们长大后被慢慢磨掉了。
They are conditioned out of it.
他们什么时候开始被磨掉的？
When do they get conditioned out of it?
上学之后，不过这得看情况。
When they start school well first it depends.
第一道影响其实来自你，当妈妈的。
The first conditioning will be you, the mother.
如果你总是忽略直觉，孩子还是会信你，因为他们本来就跟你紧密相连。
If you're tuning out, they're going to trust you because they're inherently connected to you.
所以如果你不听从那种感觉，他们虽然能感受到，但还是会来向你确认。
So if you're not listening to the frequency, they'll feel the frequency but they'll check with you.
所以第一步，你要开始留意那种频率，并且允许自己说：我不需要理由。
So the first thing to do is you start paying attention to frequency and give yourself permission to say I don't need a reason.
只要我有感觉，那就有它的意义。
If I'm feeling something, it's something.
那一个人怎么
How does someone who
特别想要这种能力呢？我的意思是，这简直是世界上最厉害的超能力，对吧？
wants that so much, I mean it's just the best superpower in the world, right?
是的。
Yes.
有时候我觉得我得解释清楚，但其实那并不适合我。
Of when you can be like, I need to explain it but that's not right for me.
但要是说我自己，我以前其实特别有这种感觉。
But if I think about me, it's like I used to have that very strongly.
我以前练了很多昆达里尼瑜伽，但在这十多年带女儿的过程中，慢慢地有点儿失去了它。
Did lots of kundalini yoga and over ten years that I've been raising the girls, I've sort of lost that a little bit.
我发现自己在想，真的是这样吗？
I find myself going, Is it?
难道不是吗？
Isn't it?
我该怎么感知呢？
How do I read?
因为你抬头看这里。
Because you're looking up here.
你就是这样做的
You do that
然后你
And you to the
两次呼吸加一个滑动。
two breaths and a slide.
然后你把手实实在在地放在腹部和胸口上。
Then you put your hand literally, one hand on belly, one hand on chest.
你会说，我的内心在告诉我。
And you say, My spirit says.
那我们现在就试试。
So let's try that right now.
你生活中有没有什么事，让你在脑子里转个不停？
Do you have a challenge in your life that gets you spinning in your head?
真正让你困扰的事。
Legitimate challenge.
不一定是多大的事。
It doesn't have to even be a big deal.
是啊，工作上的事。
Yeah, work stuff.
明白了。
Okay.
所以
So
我想跟你分享另一个工具，特别管用。
it's another tool I want to share with you and it's a really good one.
让我们直觉变得模糊的，其实是恐惧。
What scrambles our eggs as far as getting our intuition clear is fear.
所以这是一个好方法。
So here's a good tool.
你不需要战胜恐惧，只要承认它的存在就行，真正让你脱节的是压抑它。
You don't have to get over fear, you just have to acknowledge it because it's hiding fear that disconnects you.
这就是这个方法。
So here's the tool.
我有工作上的事。
I have work stuff.
为了用这个工具，你有没有具体想聚焦的事情？
Anything specific you wanted to narrow into just for the sake of this tool?
有，就是该不该推出某个产品这个决定。
Yeah, a decision about whether to launch a certain product or not.
好的，非常好。
Okay, very good.
接下来跟着我一起做，不过你也可以自己单独完成。
Okay, so just follow along with me, but you can do this on your own.
我害怕的是——大声说出来。
I'm afraid of, answer out loud.
失败。
Failing.
我还害怕什么？
And I'm afraid of?
搞砸了。
Getting it wrong.
我还害怕什么？
And I'm afraid of?
出丑。
Looking stupid.
深吸一口气。
Take a breath.
你在看什么？
What are you looking at?
看看你正前方的东西，叫出它的名字。
Look at something right in front of you and name it.
我在看摄像头。
I'm looking at the camera.
好，笑一下。
Okay, smile.
我害怕的是。
I'm afraid of.
我的内心说，把手放在心口。
And my spirit says, hand on heart.
我的内心说，放手去做吧。
And my spirit says Go for it.
是的
Yeah.
有这种感觉吗？
That feel true?
对，确实有。
Yeah, it does actually.
你的表情变了。
Your face changed.
你整个脸都亮起来了。
Your whole face lit up.
这就是你分辨直觉在说话的方式，因为它是一股能量的迸发。
That's how you know intuition is speaking because it's an energy burst.
感受到了吗？
Feel it?
对。
Yeah.
你的身体感觉到了吗？
Your body feel it?
就三秒钟的事。
That was like three seconds.
我教这个，因为它很自然。
That's what I teach because it's natural.
我只是帮你重新连接内在的能力，去感知那些准确指引你的信号。
I'm just reconnecting you to an inner capacity to tune into frequency that informs you accurately.
去试试吧。
Go for it.
太棒了。
Phenomenal.
去试试吧。
Go for it.
你知道吗，如果是真正的直觉，你的身体会一下子亮起来。
And you know, if it's really intuition, your body lights up.
你能在很多事情上看到这一点。
You can see that in things.
在朋友身上也能看到。
Can see that in friends.
我会跟朋友这么说。
I say that to friends.
你只是发生了改变。
You just change.
你只要去设定，改变就会发生：你的心打开了，能量涌进来，你的脸上、笑容里，还有你的气场，都亮了起来。
You just set And the change is this, your heart opened, the energy floods, there's light in your face, in your smile, and your aura.
你真的会焕然一新，而且别人看得出来。
You literally light up and it's visible.
我再强调一次，直觉并不是某些人的专属天赋。
Again, want to say intuition is not a gift for certain people.
它是一种能力，一种与内在频率连接并获得准确指引的自然能力。
It is the ability, the natural ability, to tune into frequency, which informs you.
我们天生就具备这种能力。
We all inherently are hardwired to do that.
我们被社会磨掉了这种本能，但如今世界正逼着我们重新找回它。
We've been conditioned out, but the world now is insisting we do this, we tune these back in.
这对你来说一定特别有认同感吧。
It must be so validating for you.
你也有这种感觉吗？
Do you feel that way?
我一直很耐心，现在兴奋了整整十五年。
I feel like I've been patient and I'm so excited for fifteen years.
我这么兴奋，原因之一就是人工智能。
I am excited because, well, one of the obvious things is AI.
AI确实在取代很多东西，但直觉是它永远替代不了的，因为它感受不到能量。
Okay, AI is replacing a lot of things, but this intuition is the one thing it cannot replace because it cannot sense energy.
而如今，对人类来说，培养直觉是最有力量的技能，因为它能实时捕捉当下的能量流动。
And it is the most empowering skill for humans to develop right now because it picks up energy in present time, in motion, now.
能量正在推动我们向前发展。
The energy is creating going forward.
任何数据或人工智能，都不过是过去事物的反映。
Any data or any AI is a mirror of what was behind us.
所以这里就是它掉链子的地方。
So that's where it drops the ball.
它能帮我们分析和整理信息，但没法感知并引导我们以富有创造力的能量方式向前走。
So it can inform us and organize us, but it cannot tune in and direct us in a creative energetic way going forward.
我们正处在一个太有意思的时代。
What a fascinating time we're in.
我太喜欢这样了。
I love it.
我等这一天等了很久，因为过去人家说我玄乎，现在倒好，等等看。
I've been waiting for this because where I used to be dismissed as woo woo is now, wait a minute.
那些首席执行官们将会
Those chief execs are going be
他们确实如此。
calling They do.
他们确实如此。
They do.
我现在正在教一位顶尖的首席执行官，就是负责Navidea的那位先生。
I am now teaching, in fact, one of the biggest chief execs is the man who's in charge of Navidea.
有人问他：‘房间里最聪明的人是谁？’他回答说……
He just said, when he was asked, What's the most important Who's the smartest person in the room?
这就是那个问题。
That was the question.
我在Instagram上看到的。
I saw this on Instagram.
他说：
He said.
不是数据，而是能感知能量、预见未来的人。
It's not data, it's a person who can read the energy and see around the corners.
那就是我们的直觉。
That's our intuition.
每个人都有。
And we all have it.
我一直致力于传授这一点，尤其是对孩子来说，他们天生就具备这种能力。
It's been my mission to teach this, but for children especially, they have it naturally.
我们首先要通过以身作则来保护它。
We need to preserve it primarily by our own modeling.
有一件事
One thing
我一直以来的做法是，总是认可他们的感受。
that I have done is I've always validated how they felt.
比如我女儿跑来跟我说，这件事感觉不对劲。
So if my little girl's come to me and said, This hasn't felt right.
我从不会像那种父母一样说：别胡思乱想了。
I've never been that parent that's gone, Don't be silly.
你已经给了她一生信任自我的力量。
You've just given her the power of trusting herself for life.
哦，但愿如此。
Oh, I hope So
作为父母，你能做的最好的事，就是先认可孩子的感觉，然后引导他们倾听内心的指引。
the best thing you can do as is a to give them the superpower of following, first validating and then listening to that inner compass.
因为这种感觉是在捕捉真实的东西。
Because it is picking up on something real.
它超越了三维世界的范畴。
It's just not third dimension.
做得很好。
Good job.
但愿如此吧。
Let's hope.
不，别指望希望。
No, no hope.
她已经做到了。
She's already there.
你看着她就行。
Just watch her.
孩子如果表现得自然随性，说明他们在相信自己的直觉。
You can tell kids are trusting their vibes if they're spontaneous.
只要他们能自由表达，不压抑自己，而且行为自然，那就是跟内心一致了。
If they express themselves without shutting down and they're spontaneous, then they're aligned.
他们处于顺流状态，感觉轻松，也感到被支持。
They're in their flow, they feel at ease and they feel supported.
如果发现他们开始退缩，作为父母，你要留意这一点。
And if something starts to shut down, notice this as a parent.
如果感觉不对劲，别直接去质问他们，因为他们自己可能也说不清哪里不对。
If something is not right, don't confront them because they might be a little unclear about what's not right.
比如，他们可能还没法用语言表达出来。
They may not have the language, for example.
但你可以每天安排一段讲故事、放松的时间，问问他们今天过得怎么样，晚上邀请他们分享内心的想法。
But you just kind of have story time and unwind time and ask them how things are and invite them at the end of the day to share their inner world.
他们会说的。
And they will.
一定会的。
They will.
只要他们觉得安全、不会被评判，而且你也不急着去解决问题，他们就会跟你倾诉。
And they'll share with you if they feel safe and unjudged and don't jump on it to fix it.
我教过我女儿们，现在也教孙女们，总会有办法的，关键是我们一起动脑筋去找出来。
But to say, one of the things I've taught my daughters and now my granddaughters is there's always a solution and it's our creative game to find one.
这样能让他们保持开放的思维，而不是非黑即白、非对即错，鼓励他们去尝试、去探索。
And so it keeps them in creative mind instead of all or nothing, right or wrong, black or white, invites them to be experimental.
记住，办法总比困难多。
Know, it's always a solution.
你们得像试鞋子一样，多试试看。
You guys got to try it on like your shoes.
合脚吗？
Do they fit?
这样合适吗？
Does that fit?
他们懂的。
They get it.
我想跟你聊聊恐惧，因为你刚才对我的做法太……太特别了。
I want to ask you about fear because what you just did to me was so So
因为你只是把它轻轻放到了一边。
it's just because what you did is you moved it aside.
对。
Yes.
但现在有太多人感到不安，你提到人工智能，我每天看到的新闻标题都让我特别害怕。
And But then so so many people right now feel, you you mentioned AI, I'm seeing every day these headlines which are honestly really scaring me.
说有七万个岗位要消失，我虽然不为自己担心，但真的为别人揪心。
Intended to 70,000 jobs that go, I'm like, oh, I feel so worried for, not for me, but for others.
如果人们正为自身、为孩子感到恐惧，我们该怎么应对？我们现在活在一个充满未知的世界里，对吧？
How do we, if people are feeling that fear for themselves, for their kids, because we're in this world of, I don't know, is it unknown?
我真的说不准。
I don't know.
你是怎么面对这一切的？
How are you navigating this?
我们要怎么应对呢？因为人类是无法被取代的，我们是有灵性的存在。
How How can can we navigate it is that human beings cannot be replaced because we are spiritual beings.
我们确实可以被编程、被操控，如果任由的话，也能像机器一样低水平运作。
We are not we can be programmed and operate and function at a lower level if we allow it.
但每个人内心深处的灵性，终究会显现出来。
But the spirit in all humans makes itself felt eventually, in all humans.
只要我们持续保持创造力，就能适应并找到新的才能、新的技能、新的联结方式，以及新的贡献途径。
And if we continue to be creative, we will adapt to find new talents, new skills, new ways to connect, new things to contribute.
我们不会被困在昨天的框架里。
But we are not stuck in what was yesterday.
说到底，不还是跟以前一样吗？
In many ways, just as we always have, right?
我们一直都在经历这样的巨大冲击。
We've gone through these huge ripples.
当年电脑刚普及的时候，人们也是这么说的。
Honestly, they said the same thing when computers came online.
我记得那时候……
I remember remember the
千禧年交替那会儿我十七岁，当时闹得沸沸扬扬的千年虫问题。
so I was 17 at the turn of the millennium and there was this big thing, the millennium bug.
Y2K。
Y2K.
就是Y2K！
Y2K!
我妹妹当时紧张得不得了，囤了一堆东西，说世界要完蛋了。我就跟她说：别瞎操心，顺其自然，别去招惹它。
My own sister was all hunkered down with that and we are going And I said, you know, okay, trust the universe, don't tempt it.
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但另一方面，我们人类的命运绝不是被自己创造的东西毁灭。
But on the other hand, that is not our soul destiny, to annihilate ourselves by our own creations.
真的不是。
It just isn't.
不管别人怎么说，我都这么认为。
I don't care what anybody says.
人类的灵魂是热爱生命的。
The human spirit loves life.
作为灵媒，我知道你能感知能量，也能捕捉到个人的能量。
As a medium, I know you can tune into energies and you can pick up on individual energy.
你能对整个群体的能量也这么做吗？
Can you do that on
当然可以。
a collective scale as Absolutely.
那你现在感受到的是什么？
And what are you picking up at the moment?
这是个很有趣的问题，因为我们正处在一个关键的历史时刻。
Well, it's an interesting question because we are at a pivotal moment in time.
所有行星都排成一线，我们正进入一个新时代，就像从黑暗时代迈向文艺复兴那样。
Are We all the planets are lined up, we're entering this new era, sort of like when we went from the dark ages to the Renaissance.
现在媒体上到处都是末日论调，但我觉得真没必要太当真。
So there is a bit of a doom and gloom conversation dominating the airwaves that I don't think anybody should give a lot of importance to.
不如问问自己：我一直在否认或忽视的是什么？
But instead ask yourself, what in me have I been denying or ignoring?
为什么？
And why?
如果我停下来，会怎么样呢？
And what would happen, I wonder if I stopped?
如果我放下犹豫，任由那种想写作、创作、开启新事物的冲动去行动，会怎样？
And let that urge, that impulse to write or create or start something new, create a new product.
想想看，这不仅会改变我的生活，还可能给他人带来积极的影响。
Wonder how that would positively affect not just my life, but others.
我还在想，如果我让这种冲动主导一切，会不会真的改变每个人的命运。
And I wonder if I would let that take over, that I would actually change the equation for everyone.
这正是我们现在该问自己的问题。
And that's how I feel we should be asking ourselves right now.
我觉得现在很多人身上都藏着未被发掘的天赋，正被逼着要释放出来。
I think what we're in is a lot of people have lives and unleashed gifts that are being forced to be released.
人类不就是这样吗？穷则思变，对吧？
And that's just how humans do things, know, when necessity is the mother of invention, isn't it?
为了保障我们的生存和福祉，我们一定会涌现出各种新的发明。
So because it's going to be necessary to assure our continuity and our well-being, we're going to come up with all kinds of new inventions.
我相信人类的精神力量，虽然看着这一切崩塌确实令人心痛。
I believe in the human spirit and I am, for one, the meltdown is hard to watch.
但我不确定我们会不会真的怀念它。
But I don't know that we'll miss it.
那些正在崩塌的东西，其实从来就不是为了大家的共同利益而存在的。
The things that are collapsing haven't really been for the greater collective good.
而那些真正重要的，终将存续下去。
And the ones that are will prevail.
所以别总盯着世界新闻了，去种个花园，写本书，陪孩子玩玩吧。
So instead of watching the world or the news, grow a garden, write a book, play with your kids.
因为这才是能延续下去、让人类持续蓬勃发展的力量。
Because that's what will continue on and will continue to keep humanity going strong.
真心相信这一点。
Believe that so wholeheartedly.
我们并不是无能为力的。
We're not powerless.
你每天所做的事，都会在集体中激起回响。
And what you do every day sends a vibration into the collective.
我的老师很早就教过我这个道理。
My teacher taught me this very early in life.
他说：如果你想帮助这个世界上受苦的人，就别让自己也成为其中之一。
He said, If you ever want to help the miserable of the world, don't be one of them.
你知道吗？
And you know what?
我把这话记在心里了。
I took that to heart.
这真是句好建议。
And it has been good advice.
但你也经历了不少事。
But you've also been through so much.
我确实经历了。
I have.
日子并不容易。
It's not been easy.
我可不是那种盲目乐观的人。
So I'm not a Pollyanna by any means.
我只是更坚韧，也更有创造力。
I'm more resilient and creative.
跟我说说吧，你人生中曾经有一段特别痛苦的时期。
Tell me, because there was a time in your life when you had huge grief.
巨大的失去。
Tremendous loss.
非常沉重的失去。
Huge loss.
其实那是十二年前，差不多就是现在。
It was actually twelve years ago, just about now.
我前面说过，我家里有七个孩子，我那个大一岁的哥哥，突然在睡梦中走了。
First, I'm one of seven, as I mentioned, my one year older brother suddenly died in his sleep.
他去世带来的打击和悲痛还没缓过来，我爸爸六周后也去世了。
The grief or the shock of it, my dad died six weeks later.
那时候我还在一段婚姻里，但我丈夫其实并不够稳定。
And I was in a marriage where my husband wasn't really that secure.
我那时候特别需要他，可他从来没经历过这样的依赖——毕竟我一直比较坚强，最后他选择了离开。
And so me needing him in a way he had never experienced, because I was kind of the confident one, he left.
所以，我在短短六周内失去了弟弟、父亲，还有丈夫。
So I lost brother, father, husband, in about six weeks.
就像保龄球一路滚过去，所有球瓶全倒了。
And it was like a bowling ball down the aisle and all the pins went.
在灵魂深处，我知道自己注定要走一条不一样的路。
And on a soul level, I knew that I had a different destiny than the one I was on.
但在人性层面，
But on a human level,
我本来想说，
was going say,
花了我很久很久才缓过来。
It how long did it take you took me a long time.
我第一件事是听从指引去走圣地亚哥朝圣之路，可我连家门口三条街外的超市都不愿意去徒步。
My first effort was I got guidance to walk the Camino De Santiago, and I don't even hike to the store three blocks away.
我当时
I was
我特别喜欢那本书。
I loved that book.
我真该去试试。
I'll loved go for it.
在三十天的徒步中，我感受到很多治愈，也看清了自己长期积累的那些微小的自我背叛。
And it healed a lot and showed me as I walked over thirty days, how I had been having these micro self betrayals that accumulated.
如果我真的想活出作为变革型导师的命运，就必须把那些漏洞补上。
And that if I was really going to live my destiny as transformational teacher, I had to plug the holes.
天啊，这让我起了一身鸡皮疙瘩。
Oh, that gave me goosebumps.
我觉得很多女性都有过这种经历。
I think so many women experience that.
并不是我们突然就活成了那种让人窒息的生活，而是慢慢被千刀万剐的。
It's not that we suddenly, we arrive in these lives that don't feel like through death by a thousand cuts.
没错。
Exactly,
这些细微的背叛让我终于明白，为什么事情会变成这样。
these micro betrayals So for I realized that that was why this happened.
而且这些都是来自父权体系的影响。
And that they were patriarchal inputs.
我觉得挺有意思，父亲、哥哥、丈夫，全都是这样。
I thought that's interesting, father, brother, husband.
这其实是父权社会在塑造我该成为怎样的女人。
This was patriarchal shaping of who I was to be as a woman.
我早就对这些不以为然了。
And I was sort of over that.
他们自己就慢慢退出了我的生活。
They self selected out.
那好吧，我就顺其自然吧。
So okay, I'll go with it.
后来我女儿突然提出一个绝妙的主意——搬去巴黎。
Then my daughter had the brilliant idea to move to Paris.
她说：‘你要么崩溃，要么我们就搬去巴黎，重新开始。’
She said, You could have a nervous breakdown or we can move to Paris and start over.
我们真的搬了。
And we moved.
六十天内，我们收拾好行李，直接搬过去，重新开始了。
Like in sixty days, we just packed up and moved and started over.
我正在哀悼过去的自我，但其实并不怀念它。
The grief and the identity I had I was grieving an identity, but I wasn't missing it.
这听起来很矛盾。
And it's a paradox.
我的街区去哪儿了？
Where's my neighborhood?
我的家在哪儿？
Where's my home?
我丈夫在哪儿？
Where's my husband?
但我并不怀念它。
But I wasn't missing it.
那只是我本来的样子。
It was just who I was.
花了好几年时间，我才真正理清了这一切。
So it took a couple of years to really sort that out.
我在写完《朝圣之路》那本书之后，写了《在巴黎醒来》，因为我想弄清楚：从今以后，我该成为怎样的人？
I wrote Waking Up in Paris after my book, the Camino book, because I was trying to sort out, okay, well who am I going to be now?
我还想说一点我后来明白的事。
And I do want to say one thing I discovered about that.
这个世界对悲伤毫无耐心。
The world has no patience for grief.
我觉得这很遗憾，因为真正的疗愈，往往来自比表面损失更深的伤痛。
I think that's a shame because it is how we heal more than superficial or surface loss.
正是在这样的过程中，我们找到了内心的力量。
It's how we find a strength of spirit.
作为灵性导师，周围的人都对我沉浸在悲伤里感到不耐烦，但我就觉得，事情本来就是这样。
There was a lot of impatience around me as a spiritual teacher to be in grief, but it was like, it's just what it is.
我没有震惊，也没有瘫痪，我只是很难过。
I'm not stunned, I'm not paralyzed, but I am sad.
我正在这片废墟中慢慢找到自己的路。
And I am finding my way through this rubble.
有意思的是，
It's so interesting that
你这么说，因为我经常谈论和讲授‘母性觉醒’这个过程。
you say that because I talk and teach a lot about Matrescence, which is this process.
这其实也是一种哀悼。
And it's like, that's a grief.
这确实是一种
That's a
巨大的变化，但人们总期待能迅速恢复过来。
huge And yet there's this bounce back.
快，回来。
Quick, back.
你现在是谁？
Who are you now?
快，转变。
Quick, change.
回到原来的你。
Get back to who you were.
这简直不可能。
It's like, it's impossible
说到悲伤，它就是一团乱。
to It's say about grief is messy.
情绪本来就很混乱，但现在正是这些在浮现。
Feelings are messy, but that's what's emerging now.
我们怎么才能对自己有耐心呢？
How do we give ourselves the patience?
要学会从内心深处感激和同情自己的灵魂，而不是依赖别人来给你这种感受。
To find deep appreciation and compassion for your spirit, instead of look to others to find it for you.
这真的能改变一切，因为我们的价值观总说，我们得从别人那儿得到一切所需。
That's a real game changer because our value system says we have to get everything we need from others.
如果我们得不到，就觉得自己不配。
And if we don't, we don't deserve I
我知道。
know that.
我真的觉得，你可以先假装自己已经做到了，直到真的做到为止。
And I do believe you should fake it till you make it.
明白了。
Okay.
是的。
Yeah.
现在这样苛责自己，真的好吗？
Like, is it really nice for me to beat myself up right now?
或者，我干脆就不这么做呢？
Or could I just not?
也许我不用对自己说好听的话，但这里有个确实管用的办法。
Maybe I don't go into a nice self talk, but here is a tool that does work.
当你需要这份慈悲时，用第三人称大声对自己说。
When you need that compassion, talk out loud in third person.
索尼亚，你放松一下没关系的。
Like Sonia, it's okay that you relax.
一切都会好起来的。
Everything's going to be okay.
深呼吸一下吧。
Just take a breath.
你没事的。
You're okay.
但要用你自己的声音，手放在心口，叫出你的名字。
But use your own voice, hand on the heart and say your name.
这样很有效。
That works.
这能打破旧有的模式。
That breaks up the old pattern.
对。
Yeah.
我老是跟自己说话。
I talk to myself constantly.
很好。
Good.
用温和的话语。
With like kind words.
真的能带来改变。
And it makes just the difference.
是不是？
Doesn't it?
哦。
Oh.
你知道还有什么管用吗？
You know what else works?
幽默。
Humor.
对。
Yes.
我建议你每天让自己笑一笑。
I would say make yourself laugh every day.
因为你不可能一边笑，一边又害怕或焦虑。
Because you can't really be laughing and afraid and anxious at the same time.
我女儿跟我说，她有个十四岁的孩子。
Was telling My daughter was telling me she has a 14 old baby.
昨晚她睡在床上，从床上摔下来，头卡在床和床头柜之间，脚却翘到了头上。
She was sleeping in her bed last night, fell out of the bed, head between the bed and the nightstand, feet up in the head.
那可太吓人了。
It was awful.
结果我们俩突然笑出来了。
And then we both burst out laughing.
我的意思是，她没受伤，这就够了。
I mean, she wasn't hurt and that was that.
我们把她重新抱回床上，就那么一小会儿，但真的挺逗的。
And we got to get her back in and it was just a moment, but it was funny.
那一刻的恐惧一下子就没了，就像说，生活就是这样。
And it took away the horror of that And it was like, life happens.
相信你自己。
Trust yourself.
有三点值得记住。
Three things to take away.
相信你的直觉。
Trust your spirit.
相信你的灵性，也去唤醒他人内心的灵性。
Trust the spirit and speak to the spirit in others.
别去纠缠别人的故事。
Don't speak to the story.
别去评判别人的表象。
Don't speak to the performance.
去跟灵性对话，相信宇宙的灵性，因为它就是爱。
Speak to the Spirit and trust the Spirit of the universe because it's love.
而这一切，自会照顾好我们。
And that will take care of us.
哦，太美了。
Oh, so beautiful.
我想问你几个问题，做个收尾。
Let me ask you some questions to wrap up.
第一个问题是，什么是母性？母性教会了你什么？
The first one is, what is motherhood and has motherhood taught you?
这是一种馈赠。
It's a gift.
它让我明白，生命仍在继续，我灵魂深处的朋友又回来了。
It taught me that life continues and my soul friends came back.
能成为他们的守护者，支持他们活出自己充满灵性的生命，是一种荣耀。
And that it is an honor to be their caretakers and to liberate them to live their own spirited lives.
它教会了我随性、专注、耐心和慷慨。
It's taught me spontaneity, presence, patience and generosity.
我本来就很慷慨，但现在我才真正明白，这就是无条件的爱。
Way beyond what I and I'm naturally generous, but I realize this is what unconditional love is.
这就是母职教会我的事。
So that's what motherhood has taught me.
别抗拒它。
Don't fight it.
别牺牲自己，也别过度付出，但要明白，这种给予和爱是一种力量，能让你走过任何难关。
Don't sacrifice, don't over give, but know that this kind of giving and love is a strength that will get you through anything.
我活了这么久，知道事情终究会好起来的。
I've lived long enough to know that it will.
如果你跟刚当妈妈时的自己说话，想象她就坐在这里，怀里抱着你的小女儿。
If you were talking to your first time mother self, like imagine she's sat here with your little daughter.
是的。
Yeah.
大概只有几个月大。
Maybe a couple of months old.
你会对她说些什么？
Would you say something?
我会说，别为那么多别的事操心了。
I would say don't worry about so much other stuff.
你总担心这担心那，生怕她出事，反而错过了和她在一起的时光。
All the other stuff you're constantly worrying about to keep her safe takes you away from her.
就陪在她身边吧。
Just be with her.
一切都会好起来的。
It'll work out.
真希望当初有人告诉我这句话。
I wish someone had told me that.
我生下大女儿的时候，我们正在翻新房子。
When I had my first daughter, we were renovating a house.
为什么大家都这么做？
Why does everyone do that?
我们当时也是这样。
We did the I
我不知道。
don't know.
为什么呢？
Why?
这完全说不通。
It makes no sense.
就是搞砸了的 nesting，彻底搞砸了。
Just nesting gone wrong, really wrong.
但当时我想为她把一切都安排得完美，其实更该做的，是安安静静地多陪陪她。
But I wish in trying to make it all nice for her, I would have just been quietly more with her.
我明白。
I do.
我懂。
I do.
现在我有时会告诉她，真希望当年能多花点时间陪你，那时候你那么乖、那么小，总逗我笑。
Sometimes I tell her today, wish I had spent more time with you when you were just so sweet and little and made me laugh.
我会对任何妈妈说，只要不是现实里真正扎根的事，最终都会好起来的。
I would say that to any mother, whatever in the physical world isn't grounded, it'll work out.
这真的很难，对吧？
It's so hard, isn't it?
因为感觉就像
Because it feels like
其他事情其实也很重要，对吧？
the other stuff is so important, right?
这会扰乱你的心神。
Well, disturbs your spirit.
至少整理出一个角落，让它干净、清爽、安稳，然后告诉自己，谁都不能进来打扰。
So at least clear one corner and make that corner nice and clear and grounded and call it, you know, nobody can come in here.
没错。
Yes.
找一个让你感到平静的地方就行。
Just find one space that's peaceful.
如果家里乱七八糟，你就没法放松，因为气场太杂乱了。
Because if the house isn't all up in order, you can't relax because the energy is so ungrounded.
创造属于你的空间，然后好好享受它。
But create your space and take your space.
你最想送给所有人的一个礼物是什么
What's one gift that you would want to give to all
世界上所有的母亲，为什么呢？
the mothers in the world and why?
给她们一个大大的拥抱，告诉她们：无论多糟糕的一天，都不要低估你所做事情的力量和意义。
Give them a big hug and say, Don't ever underestimate the power and the importance of what you're doing, even on the worst day.
因为你正在维系着人类的延续。
Because you are keeping humanity going.
你正在传递人类最珍贵的东西。
And you are sharing what is so important about humans.
我们彼此需要，彼此相爱，每一个灵魂都至关重要。
That we need each other, we love each other, and every soul matters.
你对孩子的养育，正是这宏大图景中的一部分。
And your mothering your little ones is your part of that equation.
你参与其中，不可或缺。
You're part of that participation.
你做得到的。
You got this.
我觉得，别太逼自己了。
I would say, take it easy.
你已经做得很好了。
You're doing okay.
如果你觉得没那么好，那就改掉那些让你不舒服的事，因为你心里其实很想做好。
And if you're not doing okay, change whatever is not allowing you to do okay, because it's in your heart to want to.
这话说得太美了，谢谢你。
That's beautiful, thank you.
是的。
Yes.
我想很多人听了之后，都会想多听点你的分享，索尼亚。
I should think lots of people are going to want to get more, Sonia, in their ears.
哦，我真的很愿意，我
Oh, I would love, I
你的YouTube太棒了，简直了。
love Your YouTube's my amazing, by way.
我特别喜欢
I love
这个说法
that.
谢谢
Thank
你，我
you, I
太开心了。
love that.
这就是我每周坚持做这件事的原因，也是我能为大家出一份力的方式。
That is my way of contributing weekly.
我真的特别喜欢做这件事。
I love it.
我还专门为妈妈们写了一本书，叫《直觉的火花》。
For mothers, I wrote a book called The Intuitive Spark.
我就是这么被养大的。
That was how I was raised.
所以如果你想找些有趣的方式来做这件事，这就是一个办法。
So if you want to find fun ways to do that, that's a way to do it.
这都不是什么大事。
It's not big deals.
真正起作用的是那些细微的小事。
It's little deals that make a big difference.
你已经在做了。
You're doing it.
每次孩子跑来跟你说话，哪怕只是开口跟你聊，本身就是一种肯定。
Every time your little ones come and say, first that they even talk to you is an affirmation.
鼓励他们跟你说话，认真听，别打断。
Encourage them to talk to you and listen, don't interrupt.
别急着给答案，引导他们自己去解决。
Don't solve, invite them to solve.
我再跟你分享一个游戏吧。
I'll leave you with one more game.
这是我最喜欢的一个游戏。
It's my favorite game.
叫作‘有十九种解法’。
It's called There are 19 Solutions.
当有人带着问题来找你时，你可以对孩子说：‘嘿，我遇到个难题。’
So when someone comes with a problem, can go to your kids and say, Guys, I have a problem.
我需要你们帮帮忙。
I need your help.
这样你们就站在同一阵线上了，可以说：‘这是我的问题。’
So you're on the same playing field, say, Here's my problem.
我得想个解决办法。
I need to come up with a solution.
咱们一起想出十九个天马行空的点子，其中最好的那个自然就会冒出来。
So let's come up with 19 crazy solutions, and in that 19, the best one will come out.
总会的。
It always does.
要尽量想出最疯狂的点子，但得让每个人都参与进来。
And come up with the craziest solutions, but let everybody participate.
这真的让人很有力量。
It's so empowering.
它能激发创造力。
It creates creativity.
它会调动你的直觉。
It involves your intuition.
最好的办法自然就会冒出来。
That solution will show up.
这真是个很棒的家庭游戏。
It's a great family game.
我觉得我们工作时也该这么干。
I think we should do that at work as well.
我能搞定。
I can do it.
本来想说，这就像你的大脑在自由发散，完全不受过去经验的束缚。
Was gonna say, that sounds This is your brain, brainstorming and open so it's not going through the ledgers of the past.
是的。
Yeah.
你会开始接触到一些以前根本想不到的想法。
You start opening up to something you never thought before.
真的特别有意思。
It's really fun.
而且真的管用。
And it works.
我太喜欢这个了，以至于我
I've loved this so much that I
我觉得你刚刚让我们所有人都重新连接上了，太好了。
I'm feel like you've just plugged us all back so glad.
这就是我的使命。
That's my purpose.
只要你连接上了，这种能量就会自然感染他人，大家也会不自觉地调到同一个频率。
And if you're plugged in, it radiates in others and train to that frequency automatically.
太美了。
Beautiful.
谢谢。
Thank
不，真的非常感谢你邀请我。
you No, so much for inviting
这真是一场愉快的交流。
what a joy.
我特别享受。
I loved it.
谢谢你。
Thank you.
我太喜欢了。
I loved it.
谢谢你。
Thank you.
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