常春藤学位真的重要吗？还有，何时租房 vs. 购房

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Instead of wrestling with rigid schemas or translating data formats, MongoDB's native data model mirrors the language LLMs already speak.

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It ships at the speed of AI, is ACID compliant, and scales to handle massive Fortune 500 workloads.

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It's a great database.

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And I'm Jake Sullivan, and we're the hosts of The Long Game, a weekly national security podcast.

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This week, Polish deputy prime minister Radek Sikorsky joins the show to break down the shifting transatlantic alliance and what comes next in Ukraine.

中国和我们不同，它其实有能力迫使俄罗斯结束这场战争。

China, unlike us, actually could force Russia to end the war.

但我猜，这场战争对中国的现状来说正合适。

But my guess is that, the war suits China just fine.

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This is the part of the show where we answer your questions about business, big tech entrepreneurship, and whatever else is on your mind.

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Again, that's officehoursprovgmedia dot com or post your question on the Scott Galloway subreddit and we just might feature it in our next episode.

第一个问题。

Question number one.

你好。

Hi.

我叫泰。

My name is Ty.

我住在波士顿附近。

I live in the Boston area.

我是节目的老听众，这是第一次打电话进来。

Longtime listener, first time caller here.

你那个职业建议的视频，其实直接促使我搬到了波士顿。

Your career advice video actually led me to move to Boston.

四年过去了，我现在感情稳定，职业生涯也起步得不错。

Four years later, I have a great relationship and a financially rewarding start to my career.

所以我总觉得，自己欠教授一份很大的人情。

So I feel like I owe profg a significant debt.

谢谢您。

Thank you.

我的问题是关于如何找到顶尖人才。

My question focuses on finding top tier talent.

我现在所在的团队，招聘几乎只盯着常春藤毕业生。

I currently work at a business and on a team that sources almost exclusively Ivy League talent.

我是唯一的例外，但为了能进来，我不得不读了工程学位，还上了研究生。

I'm the lone exception, but I did have to get an engineering degree and go to grad school to break through.

我在想，怎么才能让我们的战略团队有更多元的视角，因为我发现，我们这群常春藤背景的人，看商业问题和消费者时，思路太相似了。

I'm trying to think about how we can build a richer set of perspectives on our strategic planning team, because I've noticed that there are some common ways we look at business challenges and consumers as a group of people from only Ivy League backgrounds.

我觉得我们在某种程度上忽略了真正消费者的实际体验，尤其是当我们试图用高端定价吸引那些根本负担不起这种消费的年轻群体时。

I think we're losing sight of what the true consumer may actually be experiencing in some ways, especially as we're trying to target premium price tiers with our business and a younger consumer demographic that can't realistically support that spending.

当没有名校背景作为参考线索时，你们是怎么找到非常春藤盟校的顶尖人才的？

How have you gone about finding top talent outside of Ivy Leagues when there's no brand name to give you a heuristic?

谢谢你的问题。

Thanks for the question.

我是在商学院二年级时创办了一家战略咨询公司，发展得很快，急需快速招人。

So I started I started a strategy firm in second year business school, and it grew fast, and we needed to hire people fast.

我特别青睐大牌名校，尤其是那些顶尖学府。

And I was very fond of big brand names, specifically branded elite universities.

对吧？

Right?

我特别想招斯坦福、麻省理工、哈佛、伯克利这类学校的毕业生。

I was really excited to hire someone from Stanford or MIT or Harvard or Berkeley or whatever you.

一般来说，小公司会发现——虽然现在可能有点变化——但哈佛、麻省理工和斯坦福最优秀的人才，通常都会去对冲基金或者快速扩张的科技公司。

And generally speaking, you find with small firms is that, and this has probably changed a little bit, but the best people at Harvard, MIT, and Stanford are going to work for hedge funds, tech companies that are scaling.

他们根本不会考虑来我们这样的小公司。

They weren't going to work for small companies like mine.

我能吸引到的，大多是这些学校里的二流人才，而哈佛的二流人才，本质上还是二流。

And the ones I was able to attract, generally speaking, were the b players from those schools, and the b player from Harvard is just a b player.

我们总喜欢神化这些名校，觉得里面每个人都是天才。

And we have a tendency to fetishize these universities and think that everybody there is amazing.

常春藤盟校吸引的主要是两类人：天赋异禀的孩子，和富人家的孩子。

The Ivy League generally attracts two cohorts, Freakishly Remarkable Kids and the Children of Rich People.

现在，后者越来越多，前者越来越少。

And disproportionately, increasingly more the latter than the former.

前者被当成润滑剂，用来掩盖收入不平等的现实——我们实际上让收入前1%家庭的孩子，进顶尖大学的概率高出77倍。

The former is used as Vaseline to smear over the lens of income inequality and the fact that we're letting in you know, that the kids from the top 1% income earning households are 77 times more likely to get into an elite university.

小公司就得这么干。

This is what you do as a small firm.

首先，研究发现，任何一所大学里，排名前10%的学生，水平其实都差不多。

One, there's a recognition in their studies that the the top 10% at any university are pretty similar.

所以你的任务是找一所你有关系的本地大学，挑出前10%的学生。

So your job is to find a local university where you have connections and identify the top 10%.

纽约市立大学布法罗分校的前10%，跟麻省理工、波士顿学院那些顶尖学校的前10%一样优秀。

The top 10% at at at CUNY Buffalo are as good as the top 10% at, you know, at an MIT or a Boston College or what have you.

话虽如此，顶尖大学的平均水平确实略高一点。

Now having said that, the elite schools, generally speaking, the median is a little bit better.

这中间还是有优势的。

There is a value.

这些名校在录取时，除了富家子弟，确实也会招进一批特别出色的学生。

There is a selection process where they get to they get to populate their student body with just incredibly impressive kids in addition to the rich kids.

说句公道话，大多数富家孩子其实也只够得着普通大学的门槛，除非你真是特别特别有钱。

And to be fair, most of the rich kids are at a certain level to get into most universities unless you're really, really rich.

但作为一家小公司，你的任务就是从本地大学里找出前10%的人。

But your job is to identify the top 10% at a local university as a small firm.

招聘时真正的杀手锏是背调推荐。

And then the secret weapon in hiring is the following, reference hiring.

当我觉得一个人不错的时候，第一件事就是找他聊聊，给他发奖金，好好激励他，让他帮忙在朋友和同学里找一群特别聪明的人。

The first thing I do when someone is good is I sit them down and I offer them a bonus and really incent them and ask them to identify amongst their friends and their classmates a group of really smart together people.

你一定能找出两三个真正靠谱、能力超强的男女，他们做事特别出色。

You you can identify two or three really solid men and women that you know who are just incredibly smart, incredibly good at what they do.

我现在几乎完全靠推荐来招人了。

I almost am entirely now reference hiring.

我常举的例子是埃德·埃里森，他是我在《地产市场》节目的搭档。

And that is if someone I always use the example of Ed Ellison, who's my cohost from property markets.

有个叫乔安娜·卡尔斯的女士给我打电话，说：‘你必须雇这个人。’

A woman named Joanna Calls called me and said, I have someone you have to hire.

我问：‘招什么职位？’

And I said, for what role?

她说：‘职位不重要。’

And she said, it doesn't matter.

那是我的英式口音。

That's my British accent.

所以，只要是我信任的人推荐我必须雇的人，我当场就会决定录用。

And so I will hire someone on the spot that someone I trust says I must hire.

因为面试的时候我很容易被误导。

Because I get fooled in interviewing.

要想找到最聪明的人，招聘真的很难。

I think recruiting is a difficult process to try and find the smartest people.

我经常被表面现象骗到。

I get fooled all the time.

所以，要找顶尖人才，别迷信常春藤名校。

So in terms of finding top talent, don't fetishize the Ivy League.

试着找找本地大学里排名前10%的学生，那些学校跟你们公司或当地有联系的更好。

Find the try to find the top 10% at a local college that has some connection to your company or to staying in the region.

但最重要的是，优秀的人能帮你找到其他优秀的人。

But more than anything, good people can help you find other good people.

靠推荐来招聘。

Reference hiring.

第二个问题来自Reddit。

Question number two comes from Reddit.

Zesty p o view two说：嘿，斯科特。

Zesty p o view two says, hey, Scott.

我最近听了《复合者》播客，说那些买不起房的年轻人，长远来看反而更划算，因为他们把钱投在股票上，而不是还三十年房贷。

Recently heard a compounders podcast claiming that young people who can't afford a home will actually be better off in the long run because they're buying stocks instead of paying off a thirty year mortgage.

你觉得这个说法有道理吗？

Does this make sense to you?

我们很想听听你对这个观点的看法。

We'd love to hear your take on the theory.

我先说点数据。

So just some data.

根据Zillow的数据，过去六年里，美国房屋的中位售价上涨了53%，而借贷成本在同一时期翻了一倍多。

According to Zillow, the median US home sale price has risen 53% over the last six years while borrowing costs have more than doubled over the same period.

去年，超过一半的美国房屋价值下跌，这是自2012年以来比例最高的一次。

More than half of US homes lost value last year, the highest share since 2012.

摩根大通全球研究预测，2026年美国房价将保持平稳，需求的轻微增长可能会抵消供应的增加。

JPMorgan Global Research projects US home prices remaining flat in 2026 with slight improvement in demand likely offsetting any increased supply.

固定利率房贷预计将继续高于6%，如果美联储开始降息——虽然我觉得不太可能——浮动利率房贷或许会下降，但根据最新的通胀报告，我觉得这根本不会发生。

Fixed mortgage rates are projected to remain above 6% and the Fed or if the Fed begins easing, which I don't see, adjustable rate mortgages could fall, but I don't think it's gonna happen anyways based on the latest the latest inflation report.

那反对买房的理由是什么呢？

So what's the case against homeownership?

根据LendingTree今年一月的分析，如今在美国每一个主要都市区，租房都比买房更划算。

According to a January LendingTree analysis, renting is now cheaper than owning in every large metro area in The US.

这要看具体情况，但大多数美国城市，只要你算一笔账，比较一下买房的总价和租房的月支出，结果都是租房更合算。

And, it's situational, but most US cities, when you do the math, and that is what you could buy the place for versus what it costs to rent, you're better off renting.

说白了，你得看投资回报率。

And, essentially, you look at the yield.

如果一套房子买下来要十万美金，或者更现实点是二十万，这都算低的了，月供一千块，那就是一年两万四，拿二十万除以两万四。

If something costs a $100,000 to buy or 200,000 is more realistic, that's not even realistic, and it costs a thousand dollars a month, that's 12,000 into 200.

这相当于多少？

What is that?

大约6%的收益率。

About a 6% yield.

有一个临界点，超过或低于这个点，租房比买房更划算，我会关注这个数字。

There's a number where if it's above or below, you wanna rent versus buy, and I would look at that.

买房迫使家庭把财富集中在单一、缺乏流动性且带有杠杆的地产资产上，而且只集中在某个地理区域，导致可用于多元化金融资产（如股票）的资金减少。而股票在长期来看，通常能提供比房产更高的风险调整后回报。

Homeownership forces households to concentrate their wealth in a single illiquid leveraged asset in one geographic market, leaving them with less capital for diversified financial assets, including equities, which have historically produced higher risk adjusted returns in housing over long periods.

那么，从长远来看，买房有什么优势呢？

Now why might homeownership be worth it over the long time?

还房贷是必须支付的，而且随着时间推移，房产净值会不断积累。《经济视角杂志》的研究发现，从长期看，对大多数家庭来说，买房在财务上优于租房。

Paying a mortgage is nonnegotiable and equity accumulates over time, and research from the Journal of Economic Perspectives found that over the long haul, owning has been financially superior to renting for most households.

根据美联储2022年消费者财务调查，55至64岁年龄段的房主，其净资产显著高于同龄的非房主，这得益于几十年来的强制储蓄和杠杆效应。

According to the Fed's 2022 survey of consumer finances among households aged 55 to 64, homeowners have significantly higher net worth than non homeowners in the same age range, a product of decades of forced savings and leverage.

那么，到底该怎么办？

So, okay, what to do?

我觉得你应该看看你所在地区租金与购房成本之间的比例关系。

I think you look at the ratios of that yield of the cost of rent to buy in your area.

如果看起来是这样，我觉得除非你手头特别宽裕，否则在纽约、洛杉矶或旧金山现在买房并不划算。

And if it seems I just think it makes unless you have a lot of money, I don't think it makes sense to buy right now in New York or LA or San Francisco.

我觉得租房更合适，这在大多数大城市大概都是如此。

I just think you're better off renting, and that's probably true at most metros.

话虽如此，如果你能以一个不过分离谱的倍数入手，或者理想情况下能拿到有吸引力的比率，比如在圣路易斯。

Having said that, if you can get in at what isn't an outrageous multiple or ideally an attract I bet the ratio in St.

圣路易斯或者埃尔帕索现在的比率就挺不错，拉斯维加斯也是。

Louis or El Paso is pretty good right now, or Las Vegas.

我觉得他们现在挺难的。

I think they're struggling right now.

是这样吗？

Is that true?

总之，我会选择买房，站在买房这一边。

Anyways, I would buy, and I would on the side of buying.

为什么呢？

Why?

这是一种强制储蓄。

It's forced savings.

积累财富的关键之一，就是让钱不在你手上，像是自动存入ETF或公司股票，这种机制本质上就是强制储蓄。

One of the keys to building wealth is that money isn't in your hands, and it's almost like forced savings automatic deposit into ETFs or your company's equity, whatever it might be.

一旦你买了房，就得按时还贷，这是没法回避的。

And the thing about once you commit to a home is that you make that payment.

当然，你也不希望因为房贷压得喘不过气，搞得生活品质大打折扣，那就不值得了。

Now granted, you don't wanna be house poor and get over levered and not be able to enjoy your life because you're making a housing payment.

但买房带来的很多附加好处，其实都在帮你慢慢积累财富。

But a bunch of the ancillary benefits of housing help you accrete wealth.

第一，它相当于一个强制储蓄计划。

One, it's a forced savings plan.

第二，买房更容易让人安定下来，谈恋爱、结婚，而这些往往有助于提升经济实力。

Two, it lends itself towards mating and pairing and marrying, and those things tend to be good for building economic power.

所以总的来说，我是支持买房的。

So generally speaking, I'm a favor I'm in favor of homeownership.

我觉得心理上的好处是实实在在的。

I think the psychic benefits are real.

自己装修 owned 的房子确实更有趣，但一开始一定要算清楚账。

It's more fun to fix up a home you own, but you absolutely wanna do the math initially.

如果你连房贷都压力很大，把所有积蓄都押进去，还处在房价虚高的市场里，租金回报率只有2%——也就是说，买房价格是年租金的50倍，那我建议你先租着。

And if you're struggling to make that mortgage payment and you're gonna put everything you have into it and you're in in a market that's frothy and it's a yield of 2%, in other words, it's 50 times the annual rent to to to buy the place, then I would think about renting for a while.

所以我觉得，第一点，可以这样。

And so I think one okay.

第一，算清楚账。

One, do the math.

看看现在是不是周期高点，或者单纯租房是不是更划算。

Find out if it's if it's at a cyclical high or if the yield if just renting just makes a lot more choice a lot more sense.

但只要一算下来觉得经济上说得通，那就选买房。

But when you get close to it making some sort of financial sense, opt on the side of buying.

心理上的回报确实好。

It's good psychic return.

这相当于强制储蓄。

It's forced savings.

它悄悄地积累资产，还能顺便建立起我认为很有价值的人际关系。

It builds equity quietly, and it has the ancillary benefit of establishing what I think are good relationships.

房价上涨其实是一种隐形的生育控制——房价每上涨10%，生育率就会下降1%。

It ends up that an increase in housing prices is a form of birth control, that for every 10% housing prices have gone up, birth rates have gone down 1%.

拥有自己的房子让我觉得特别有成就感，这确实有心理上的回报。

I find it tremendously rewarding to own a home, so there is some psychic benefit there.

总之，谢谢你的提问。

Anyways, thanks for the question.

稍后回来，我们先插播一段广告。

We'll be right back after a quick break.

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AI辅助和智能编码能让你的开发速度比以往更快。

AI assisted and agentic coding can help you build faster than ever.

但如果你的数据层成了瓶颈，那还有什么意义呢？

But if your data layer is a bottleneck, what's the point?

MongoDB 能让你轻松上手，不会拖你后腿。

MongoDB actually gets out of your way.

MongoDB 是一个统一的、为 AI 优化的数据平台，帮你轻松构建可扩展的生成式 AI 应用。

MongoDB is a unified AI ready data platform that empowers you to build scalable generative AI applications.

它把灵活的文档模型和语义向量搜索、全文搜索以及实时业务数据原生整合在一起，不再需要单独的专用向量数据库。

It eliminates the need for separate specialized vector databases by combining a flexible document model natively with semantic vector search, full text search, and real time operational data.

你不用再跟死板的结构或数据格式转换较劲，MongoDB 的原生数据模型正好契合大语言模型的表达方式。

Instead of wrestling with rigid schemas or translating data formats, MongoDB's native data model mirrors the language LLMs already speak.

而且，MongoDB 让你能跟上 AI 的节奏，快速上线新功能。

Plus, MongoDB gives you the flexibility to ship at the speed of AI.

ACID 事务保障让你晚上睡得安稳，还能轻松应对大型五百强企业的海量负载。

The ACID compliance lets you sleep soundly at night and scales to handle massive fortune 500 workloads.

开发者管这种可靠性叫一个词。

Developers have a word for that kind of reliability.

其实是四个字。

Actually, four words.

这真是个出色的数据库。

It's a great database.

马上去 mongodb.com/ai 开始构建吧。

Start building at mongodb.com/ai.

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对很多人来说，选银行可能是年轻时随随便便选的，之后就再没管过。

For a lot of you, picking a bank was probably something you did at a young age and never looked back.

但自从那时起，银行业已经发生了很大变化。

But banking has evolved since then.

就像生活中的大多数事情一样，它变得越来越好。

And like most things in life, it's gotten better over time.

这时候，Chime 就出现了。

Enter Chime.

Chime 和传统银行完全不一样。

Chime is not like a traditional bank.

Chime 提供回报最高的免手续费银行服务，核心就是那个‘不’字。

Chime offers the most rewarding fee free banking with the power of the word no.

不收透支费，不收月费，也不收最低余额费。

No overdraft fees, no monthly fees, and no minimum balance fees.

用 Chime 卡加油或买菜，能拿 5% 的现金返还，同时还能通过日常消费积累信用。

You can get 5% cash back with Chime cards s on things like gas or groceries, all while building credit through regular everyday spending.

你的存款还能以高出全国平均水平九倍的利率快速增值。

You can also grow your money faster with a savings rate that is nine times the national average.

万一手头紧，SpotMe 功能允许你免手续费透支最多 200 美元。

And if you're ever in a pinch, SpotMe lets you overdraft up to $200 fee free.

已经有数百万人加入了 Chime，成为美国最受欢迎的免手续费银行选择。

Join the millions who are already banking fee free with America's number one choice for banking.

马上去 chime.com/profg 注册吧。

Head to chime.com/profg.

就是 chime.com/profg。

That's chime.com/profg.

现在就注册吧。

Sign up now.

几分钟就能搞定。

It only takes a few minutes.

Chime 是金融科技公司，不是银行。

Chime is a fintech, not a bank.

银行服务和 Chime 卡由 Chime 的合作银行提供。

Banking services and Chime card provided by Chime's bank partners.

需满足直接存款条件，具体条款和限额适用。

Qualifying direct deposits required terms and limits apply.

详情请访问 chime.com/disclosures。

Go to chime.com/disclosures for details.

唐纳德·特朗普能想出办法摆脱伊朗战争吗？

Can Donald Trump find a way out of the war in Iran?

伊朗战争无疑是特朗普政策上最大的失败。

The Iran war has been, by a long margin, Trump's biggest policy failure.

他之所以无法结束这场战争，部分原因是他无法接受这会意味着他战争目标的失败。

Part of the reason that he has been unable to end the war is because he can't accept the loss that it would imply from his war goals.

我是普里特·巴拉拉。

I'm Preet Bharara.

本周，全球知名风险咨询公司欧亚集团的创始人兼总裁伊恩·布雷默来到节目中，和我一起分析伊朗战争的最新进展。

And this week, Ian Bremmer, the founder and president of the leading global risk firm Eurasia Group, joins me to break down the latest in the war in Iran.

这一期已经上线了。

The episode is out now.

在你常用的播客平台搜索并关注《Stay Tuned with Preet》。

Search and follow Stay Tuned with Preet wherever you get your podcasts.

欢迎回来。

Welcome back.

第三个问题来自杰米，他给我们发了邮件。

Question number three comes from Jamie who emailed us.

嘿，G教授。

Hey, professor G.

我马上就要去斯坦福开始我的STEM方向博士研究了。

I'm about to start my PhD at Stanford in a STEM field.

我很向往创办一家中小型公司，自己做研究，然后把成果做成出色的产品。

I love the idea of running a small to midsize firm that conducts its own research and builds great products from it.

我投身研究是因为我喜欢学习，但有时候也得在信息很不完整的情况下做决定。

I got into research because I love learning, but there are times when I need to make decisions from highly incomplete information.

这让我很不安，尤其是当身边都是专家盯着我做事的时候。

This worries me a lot, especially when I'm working under the watch of experts.

你怎么学会在还没觉得自己够格的时候就果断行动？尤其是在你周围的人都比你懂很多的情况下？

How do you learn to act decisively before you feel fully qualified, especially when surrounded by people who know more than you do?

我觉得你自己已经给出答案了。

Well, I think you answered your own question.

我觉得你其实不需要等到完全准备好。

I don't think you need to.

我觉得你是在表达自己的看法。

I think you provide your opinion.

群体的智慧真是令人惊叹。

I the wisdom of crowds is staggering.

我像你这么大的时候犯过一个大错，以为领导力和男子气概就是快速判断形势后立刻做决定，然后说服所有人接受你的想法；其实正确的做法是追求正确的结论，哪怕这意味着承认自己错了。

A huge mistake I made at your age was believing that leadership and masculinity was to do a quick assessment of the landscape and then make a decision, and that the right thing was to talk everyone into my decision as opposed to the right thing being to get to the right conclusion or decision even if a man acknowledging I was wrong.

如果你在学术界，peer review 研究机制的力量就在于，有一群聪明人会不断挑你的毛病。

So if you're blessed in academia, the whole basis of a peer reviewed a peer reviewed research, which is incredibly powerful, is that a bunch of other smart people start poking holes in it.

我觉得你该做的，是带着数据驱动的研究和观点出现，别带情绪，愿意接受反馈，也敢于承认自己错了。

But I don't think I think what you wanna do is show up with data driven research and opinions, not be emotional about it, be willing to accept feedback, be willing to say when you're wrong.

但如果你身边都是顶尖聪明的人——像你去斯坦福读博士时那样——天啊，你应该主动向他们请教，好好利用这个同行网络。

But if you're surrounded by super smart people, as you will be pursuing a PhD at Stanford, Jesus Christ, you should be giving me advice, I think you take advantage of that peer network.

哪怕你将来想创业，也去商学院转转，或者找些校友聊聊，听听他们的建议。

And even if you're thinking about starting a business, roll over to the business school or talk to some alumni and get their advice.

我对这个问题的看法已经彻底反转了。

I have totally gone one eighty on this.

以前我觉得，领导力就是在信息不足的情况下做决定。

Whereas I used to think leadership was making decisions in absence of information.

现在我做任何决定前，都会先找好几个人问问他们的意见。

I now don't make any decision without calling several people and asking their advice.

如果你像你一样，有幸拥有斯坦福同行们顶尖的头脑、判断力和研究资源，还能接触到其他领域的专家，我觉得问题根本不是该什么时候做决定。

And if you're blessed with the incredible brainpower and judgment and research of being you know, of your colleagues at Stanford pursuing a similar field and access to people from different fields at Stanford, I think I think the problem isn't knowing when to decide.

问题在于你决定得太快了。

The problem is deciding too quickly.

当然，最后你还是得表达自己的观点，做出决定。

At some point, you have to provide your view and make a decision.

明白了。

Okay.

我懂了。

I get it.

但如果你不充分利用身边的环境、同事，多提问、多倾听，再自己做决定，那才是亏待了自己。

But you would be cheating yourself if you didn't take advantage of the environment you're in and your colleagues and ask them just a lot of questions and listen and then make your own decisions.

但在研究决策方面，你当然得先表达自己的观点，然后才可能听从专家的意见。

But in terms of decisions around research, obviously, you have to put forward your opinion and then maybe defer to the experts.

老天，兄弟，你能在斯坦福读博士，真让人羡慕。

But gosh, brother, it's good to be you pursuing your PhD at Stanford.

天哪。

Jesus Christ.

干得漂亮。

Well done.

本期就到这里。

That's all for this episode.

如果你想提问，请把语音留言发送到 officehours@prop2media.com。

If you'd like to submit a question, please email a voice recording to officehours@prop2media.com.

再次提醒，邮箱是 officehours@prop2media.com。

Again, that's officehours@prop2media.com.

如果你更喜欢在 Reddit 上提问，就去 Scott Galloway 的子版块发帖，我们可能会在下一期节目中选用你的问题。

Or if you prefer to ask on Reddit, just post your question on the Scott Galloway subreddit, and we might feature it in an upcoming episode.

本集由珍妮弗·桑切斯和劳拉·詹纳制作。

This episode was produced by Jennifer Sanchez and Laura Jenner.

卡米·里卡负责社交媒体，布拉德·威廉姆斯担任剪辑，德鲁·伯罗斯是技术总监。

Cami Rica is our social producer, Brad Williams is our editor, and Drew Burrows is our technical director.

感谢收听Prophecy Media出品的《Prophecy Pod》。

Thank you for listening to the Prophecy Pod from Prophecy Media.