55. 神之世界杯 - 预览

早上好，欢迎收听《余下皆成历史》，今天可能是夏季最令人期待的一天。

Good morning, and welcome to the rest is history on this probably the most anticipated day of the summer.

当然，今天就是众神世界杯开幕的日子。

It is, of course, the day when the World Cup of Gods kicks off.

人群已经聚集了，我从窗户外面都能看到。

The crowds are already I can see them now out the window, actually.

人们举着横幅和呜呜祖拉，戴着滑稽的帽子等等。

People with banners and vuvuzelas, people with silly hats and stuff.

还有小贩在兜售门票。

There's touts selling tickets.

这真是热闹非凡的场面，汤姆·霍兰德。

It's great scenes, Tom Holland.

是的。

Yeah.

壮观的景象。

Fantastic scene.

我的意思是，我们所有人都期待的时刻。

I mean, what we've all been looking forward to.

而且我认为，随着我们走出封锁，这确实是一件能让所有人振奋的事情。

And I think as we come out of lockdown, it's it's something really to to cheer everybody up.

体育的最高境界。

Sport at its best.

当然，我知道可能有些人完全不了解我们在说什么。

Now I'm aware, of course, that there may be, people out there who know absolutely nothing about what we're talking about.

所以我们应该试着解释一下我们在做什么。

So we should try and explain what we're doing.

所以几周前，那些经常收听我们播客的听众应该记得，我们举办过一场英国首相世界杯。

So we, a few weeks back, those of you who who are regular listeners to the podcast will know that we staged a World Cup of British prime ministers.

现在我们对众神也做同样的事情。

We are now doing the same with gods.

多米尼克，这有一些非常具体的规则。

And, Dominic, there's some very specific rules on this,

对吧？

aren't there?

我们 agreed 不要包括任何在世的神，也就是说，不能是目前被超过十个人崇拜的神。

Well, we agreed that no no living gods, as it were, so no gods that are currently worshiped, or at least no gods that are currently worshiped by more than 10 people.

我们的意思是，每个有资格参加这次世界杯的神，在历史上都曾有人停止崇拜他们。

Well, what we're saying is that every god who qualifies for this World Cup, at some point in history, people have stopped worshiping them.

是的。

Yeah.

他们必须是已死的神，基本上就是死神。

They must be They're dead they're dead gods, basically.

他们是死神。

They're dead gods.

所以奥丁符合条件，即使现在还有人崇拜奥丁。

So that would so Odin qualifies even though there are Odin worshipers.

据说他们在冰岛刚建了一座新的奥丁神庙。

So they've just set up a new temple to Odin in, in Iceland, I believe.

是吗？

Is that so?

但这就是所谓的复活

But that's the that's the resurrection of

是的。

Yes.

我认为如果你

I think if you're

被崇拜的话，我认为如果你

being worshipped I think if you're

被稍微以讽刺的方式崇拜，并不会让你失去参赛资格。

being worshipped slightly ironically, that doesn't that doesn't despair you from the tournament.

当然不是，多米尼克，你是在说奥丁的崇拜者是讽刺的吗？

Of not, of course, Dominic, that you're saying that Odin worshippers are ironic.

完全不是。

Not at all.

我们不想

We don't want

试图做任何改变。

to try make any changes.

我绝不会这么说。

I would never dream of saying that.

不。

No.

所以，汤姆，这些比赛真是太棒了。

So, Tom, it's great great tournaments.

实际上，我对桑布鲁克家有人不满感到有些惊讶。

Some surprise I'm I'm surprised there was some discontent in the Sambrook household, actually.

关于荷鲁斯被淘汰的消息。

The news that Horus had been knocked out.

所以一共有16个。

So so there are 16.

是的

Yeah.

我们可以按字母顺序先列出所有未种子选手，然后再按序号依次列出种子选手。

And we we could go through those who are unseeded in alphabetical order, and then do the seeds in ascending order.

接着我们可以说明，大家如何参与进来，贡献自己的意见，并影响这些激动人心时刻的走向。

And then we could we could explain, how you can join in and contribute and influence the course of these electrifying moments.

获胜者将成为众神的世界冠军。

The the winner will be the world champion of gods.

我的意思是，这顶王冠确实值得争夺。

I mean, that is a the crown worth having.

所以

So

好吧，主办方提出的宣传标语是

Well, the shout line that the the organizers of

这个赛事的主办方已经想好了

the tournament have come up

只有一个能存在。

with is there can be only one.

是的。

Yeah.

世界各地的单一神论者。

Monotheists everywhere.

我同意这一点。

I would agree with that.

是的。

Yeah.

好的。

Okay.

所以是未排名的。

So unseated.

未排名者的入场。

The unseated entrance.

所以我们第一个要讲的是阿努比斯。

So the first one we have is Anubis.

伟大的神。

Great god.

非常了不起的神。

So Very good god.

我六岁的时候打扮成阿努比斯。

I dressed up as Anubis when I was about six.

好的。

Okay.

我做了一个阿努比斯豺狼头饰。

Well I made a made an Anubis jackal headdress.

他是埃及的冥界之神，对吧？

So he's the Egyptian god of the underworld, isn't he?

木乃伊化。

Mummification.

木乃伊化。

Mummification.

在整个古埃及文明的历史长河中都被崇拜，甚至可以追溯到三千年前。

Worshiped across the entire span of of Egyptian civilization right the way back to Three thousand years.

我

I

我的意思是，他确实有深厚的背景。

mean, he's got a pedigree.

实际上，是三千五百年左右。

Well, more, actually, into into three and a half thousand years.

所以他的历史渊源确实很悠久。

So a a real track record there.

事实上，内心深处，我希望他能走得更远，因为我自己和他有很深的联系。

I actually deep down, I want him to go a long way because of my own association with him.

我真的很想看到

I really wanna see

他，好吧。

him Okay.

嗯，这是

Well, it's

这是我所期待的。

it's it's else I'm hoping.

是的。

Yeah.

这很合理。

That's that's reasonable.

然后我们有奥古斯都·凯撒。

Then then we have, Augustus Caesar.

罗马的，显然，第一位

Roman, obviously, the first

有些人会说他不是神。

Some would say not a god.

我的意思是，显然他是一个凡人。

I mean, clearly a man.

好吧，多米尼克，我们这不是一个神学播客。

Well, Dominic, we're we're not a theology podcast.

我们不是

We're not

我们不会讨论神是否真实存在

we're not getting into whether the gods actually exist

或者一个讨论他们是否真实的播客。

or podcast about whether or not they're real.

我的意思是，我认为我们没人觉得他们是真实的。

I mean, I don't think anyone we think are real.

是的。

Yeah.

我认为君主制绝对是真实的。

I think monarch is definitely real.

总之，你继续说。

Anyway, go on.

是的。

Yeah.

所以奥古斯都·凯撒去世后被奉为神明。

So Augustus Caesar, after his death, became a god.

对。

Yeah.

他生于公元前63年，卒于公元14年，死后被奉为神，可能是公元一世纪发展最快的崇拜。

He lived sixty three BC to AD fourteen, worshiped as a god, probably the fastest growing cult in the first century AD.

但我们不会对此做更详细的探讨。

But we're we're not we're gonna do this in much greater detail.

所以我们只是在这里给你一个非常简略的人物速写。

So we're just giving you a very brief character sketch here.

我觉得他其实不会走太远，汤姆。

I don't think he'll go far, actually, Tom.

我不觉得他会走得很远，实际上，汤姆。

I don't wanna I I think he'll get knocked out early.

好的。

Okay.

嗯，没错。

Well, yep.

这就是体育的魅力，不是吗？

That's the that's the fascination of sport, isn't it?

接下来我们谈谈布里吉特。

Then we have Bridget.

有争议的晋级者。

Controversial qualifier.

非常有争议的晋级者。

Very controversial qualifier.

你并没有在资格赛中击败杰里米·科尔宾。

Beat you didn't beat Jeremy Corbyn in the qualifying rounds.

是的。

Yeah.

你并不认为她应该，或者她配得上进入十六强，对吧？

You didn't think that she should, she deserved a position in the last 16, did you?

我不觉得。

I I I didn't think

她不是神。

she was god.

我没觉得她是个

Didn't think she was a

嗯，她确实是。

Well, she is.

她是爱尔兰的诗歌、智慧与春天女神。

She's the Irish goddess of poetry, wisdom, and spring.

在我看来，她就是那个丹麦队在南斯拉夫因内战被禁赛、未能晋级的情况下，意外赢得1992年欧洲杯的球队。

To me, she's the do did you so Denmark won Euro ninety two after not qualifying when Yugoslavia were barred because of their own war.

对我来说，她是本届赛事的丹麦队，因为我认为她本不该晋级，但同时我觉得她可能成为一匹黑马。

And I to me, she's the Denmark of this competition because I a, I don't think she should be there, and b, I think she could be a dark horse.

我觉得会有很多爱尔兰粉丝支持她。

I think there's a lot of Irish fans who'll be rooting for her.

好的。

Alright.

我们继续吧。

Let's move on.

基布勒。

Kibbele.

这名字可真不寻常。

Now that's an unusual one.

很多人

A lot

对这位神祇都不太熟悉。

of people won't be familiar with this god or goddess.

但她绝对是世界杯体育界的一个极其重要的人物，可能是被崇拜时间最长的女神。

But absolutely huge figure in, in in the world of, the World Cup sports because, probably the, the goddess who has been worshipped longer than than any other deity.

哇。

Wow.

这是一件非常

It's a very

大事。

big thing.

她是安纳托利亚人，也就是现在的土耳其地区。

She's she's, Anatolian, so Anatolia, what what's now Turkey.

她本质上是一位母神，她的崇拜很可能可以追溯到公元前六千年。

She's essentially a kind of mother goddess, and it's probable that she her worship goes back all the way to the sixth millennium BC.

所以她很有经验？

So she's experienced?

她非常有经验。

She's very experienced.

一直持续到大约公元500年。

All the way up to kind of, you know, 500 AD.

所以是的。

So Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

她就像亚历克斯·弗格森，曼联队那样经验丰富。

Experienced, but she's like sort of Alex Ferguson, Manchester United.

她拥有丰富的经验，但也跟上了现代时代。

She's got a lot of experience, but she's updated to the modern age.

是的。

Yes.

她在基督教兴起后依然持续存在。

She's got kept going post Christianity.

是的。

Yes.

反正都是耶稣之后的事了。

Post post Jesus anyway.

是的。

Yes.

所以我挺喜欢她的。

So I I quite fancy her.

然后你需要一个限定词。

I I I then you need qualifier.

要么是阿里亚，甚至都不是一个限定词，而是真正的皇家马德里，有着悠久的历史，伊什塔尔。

Either Aliyah, not even a a qualifier, a real Real Madrid, a lot of history, Ishtar.

是的。

Yes.

我的意思是，这里有着丰富的历史。

I mean, tons of history here.

阿卡伊南纳是什么？

What is AKA Inanna.

伊南娜。

Inanna.

美索不达米亚的天后。

The queen of heaven, in in Mesopotamia.

是的。

Yep.

性与爱的女神，是的。

The goddess of sex, of love Yep.

美的女神。

Of beauty.

所以基本上，她是巴比伦版的阿佛洛狄忒和维纳斯，只不过没达到那个标准。

So the the kind of basically, the Babylonian equivalent of of Aphrodite and Venus who who didn't qualify.

但对啊。

But Yeah.

基本上，伊什塔尔在为爱之女神们撑起大旗。

Basically, Ishtar is there flying the flag for the goddesses of love.

所以我认为基于这个原因，你会获得很多支持。

So I think you'll get a lot of support for that reason.

现在，我自己的一个最爱是摩洛，迦南人的儿童献祭之神。

Now my one of my own personal favorites, Moloch, Canaanite, child sacrifice god.

这非常有争议，因为正如

Very controversial because, just as

你曾质疑奥古斯都大帝是否是神，是的。

you disputed whether Augustus Caesar was a god Yes.

有很多人质疑摩洛是否真的是神。

There are lots of people who dispute whether Moloch was a god.

他在《旧约》中被提及。

He's mentioned in the Old Testament.

但他究竟是以色列人想象的产物，还是真的存在过崇拜？

But was he actually a figment of the Israelite imagination, or did he, really have a cult?

我的意思是，这太引人入胜了。

I mean, fascinating.

这将会得到检验，不是吗？

And that will be tested, won't it?

我正想说，这就是考验。

I was about to say this is the test.

这就是考验。

That is the test.

这就是考验。

That's the test.

如果他在第一轮就出局了，我们就知道他根本不是真的，他只是个虚构的人物。

If he crashes out in the first round, we'll know that he doesn't he was all well, you he was a figment.

嗯，另一个

Well, another

在大舞台上

on on the big stage

是的。

Yeah.

在大舞台上，

On the big stage,

那里才能看出你真正的样子。

that's where you find out what you are.

他在友谊赛中已经做到了，但他能在正式比赛中做到吗？

He's done it in the friendlies, but can he do it?

是的。

Yeah.

你知道的。

You know?

所以他已经被神化了。

So he's kingdomized.

所以

So

他来自黎巴嫩那样的地区，还有迦太基。

he's And and and another Lebanon, that kind of area, and also Carthage.

所以还有另一位神，有些人说他是虚构的，那就是菲利普亲王。

So And another god who people say some people say as a figment, and that's prince Philip.

菲利普亲王，是个后来者。

Prince Philip, a late entrant.

所以直到几个月前

So until a couple of months ago

是的。

Yeah.

他一直都没能，他从未

He was never he was

你知道的，他一直不够格。

you know, he hadn't been qualified.

他还没订好自己的票。

He hadn't booked his his ticket.

而且没有。

And No.

再说一次，丹麦队参加1992年欧洲杯。

Again, Denmark in Euro ninety two.

所以，当然，他和丹麦有联系，对吧？

So And of course, he has Danish associations, doesn't he?

菲利普亲王？

Prince Philip?

是的。

Yeah.

不管怎样，他基本上好像来自各个地方。

Anyway Well, he seems to come from everywhere, basically.

嗯，他大概在世界各个角落都有粉丝。

Well, he's got fans from all all corners of the world, I suppose.

因此，是的，爱丁堡公爵菲利普亲王，就在几周前去世了，被瓦努阿图塔纳岛南部的雅奥纳部落奉为神明。

So, yes, HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, died just, what was it, a few weeks ago, was worshiped as a god by the Yaonan tribe on the southern island of Tanna in Venatu.

自他去世以来，他们已将崇拜对象转到了查尔斯王子身上。

And since his death, they have transferred their veneration to prince Charles.

这意味着菲利普亲王是后来加入的，而且他在预选赛中轻松击败了对手，

So that means that prince Philip is a late entrant, and, I mean, he swept the opposition away in the in the qualifiers,

不是吗？

didn't he?

正如你所料，因为他是一位杰出的运动员。

As you'd expect because he's a great sportsman.

他确实是。

He was.

我认为如果菲利普亲王表现优异，对女王来说会是件美好的事。

I think he'd be lovely for the queen if prince Philip did well.

我觉得

I think

这对整个国家来说都会是件好事。

it'd be wonderful for the whole nation.

是的。

Yeah.

我认为这会在一个

I think it would bring people together at a

艰难的时刻把人们凝聚在一起。

tough time.

我真的这么认为。

I really do.

你知道，他是一位非常出色的板球运动员，当然，也很擅长驾驭马车，不是吗？

You know, he's a very good cricketer and, of course, very good at, steering, carts, wasn't he?

那是什么来着？

What was it?

就是现代的赛车。

It's just modern terror race.

不管是什么，是的。

Whatever it Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

所以我觉得他可能会表现得很好。

So I think I think he he might do well.

那么，最后一位未入围的参赛者是我们老朋友奇皮·托特克。

Then the the last of the unseated entrants is our old friend, Chippy Totek.

你非常期待看到奇皮·托特克参加这次比赛。

You were very keen on seeing Chippy Totek in this.

我的意思是

I mean

嗯，奇皮·托特克是我的老朋友。

Well, Chippy Totek's an old friend.

关于他究竟该怎么扮演阿兹特克人，你们激烈地争论过吧？

Heated discussions about whether, you know, how was he gonna be the Aztec?

我的意思是，他通过了阿兹特克赛区的选拔。

I mean, he came through the Aztec qualifiers.

是的。

Yes.

他不是吗？

Didn't he?

所以是阿兹特克神。

So Aztec god.

对。

Yeah.

我们在关于阿兹特克人的那一集里和卡米拉·汤森讨论过他。

We talked about him with Camilla Townsend in the the the episode on the Aztecs.

那些已经听过阿兹特克人那一集的听众会记得，他是阿兹特克的植被与丰收之神，他的独特之处在于会剥下自己的皮。

And those who, listeners who've who've already heard the Aztec episode will remember that he's the Aztec god of vegetation and harvest, and, his distinctive trick is to flay himself.

但他不是剥别人的皮，只是剥自己的皮。

But he doesn't flay other people, just himself.

对吗？

Is that right?

还是他只是剥自己的皮？

Or does he flay

嗯，他要求在人们被献祭给他时，其他人也要被剥皮。

Well, he demands that his he he he demands that other people be flayed in when they get sacrificed to him.

我们该看看这种说法在人群中反响如何。

We should see how how that how well that goes down with the crowds.

关于这项宣布，你知道，世界杯即将举行以及参赛队伍的消息已经在推特上公布了。

The the announcement of this is, you know, the announcement that the World Cup is going ahead and and who's playing has already gone out on Twitter.

很多粉丝对此乐在其中，说他会剥对手的皮，我很喜欢这个说法。

And, a lot of lot of fans having fun with this and have said that he he he will flay the opposition, which I like.

我敢肯定解说员们会用这句话。

I'm sure the commentators will be using that.

我的意思是，菲利普亲王穿着他的理发师夹克出现了。

I mean, Prince Philip turns up in his barber jacket.

这就是体育的魅力所在，不是吗？

That's gonna be that is what sport's about, isn't it?

这就是一切的意义所在。

That's what it's all about.

就是看到来自……的人。

It's seeing people from yeah.

炫酷的风格。

Flashing style.

来自世界各个角落、来自不同历史时期的人们相互碰撞。

People from different corners of the world, people from different corners of history coming up against each other.

我的意思是，我简直等不及了。

That I mean, I just can't wait for this.

等不及了。

Can't wait.

现在我们进入种子选手阶段了。

So now we're into the seeds.

这些才是真正的强队。

So these are the big guns.

这些是那些已经亲身经历过、取得成就的人，或是正在崛起的行业新星。

These are people who've been there and done it or who are rising forces in the game.

是的。

Yeah.

比如密特拉神，他在整个罗马帝国范围内都曾是强大的新兴力量，却始终未能最终成为主流。

So Mithras, you know, a a great rising force through so much of the Roman empire, never quite broke through to become No.

你

You

知道吗。

know No.

famously 被基督教击败

Beaten by Christianity famously

是的。

Yeah.

在三到五世纪期间，之后便逐渐衰落了。

In what the sort of third, fourth, fifth century, and then fell away afterwards.

是的。

Yeah.

看到密特拉重回主流领域真是太好了。

And it's great to see Mithras back in the big league.

确实如此。

It really is.

而且他为伊朗发声，毕竟……是的。

And flying the flag for, for Iran because ultimately Yeah.

这很令人遗憾。

It's sad.

不过，我相信我们稍后会讨论这一点。

Although, I'm sure we'll discuss this in in due course.

他是一位被罗马人采纳的波斯神祇。

He he's a a Persian god taken up by the Romans.

因此，这对意大利人有意义，对伊朗人也有意义。

So something there for the Italians, something there for the Iranians.

我认为他会获得很多支持。

I think he's gonna get a lot of support.

看到公牛队总是很好。

It's always good to see a bull.

在体育联赛的后期轮次中看到公牛队总是很棒。

Always good to see a bull in the later rounds of a sports conference.

公牛队，谈话

Bulls, Talking

下一轮种子，第

the next seed, number

七号种子。

seven seed.

现在这被 controversially 地排得太低了，是的。

Now this has gone controversially low Yeah.

宙斯，当然

Is Zeus, who, of course

加里·莱因克尔，回到宙斯。

Gary Lineker, back in Zeus.

加里·莱因克尔。

Gary Lineker.

是的。

Yes.

是的。

Yes.

众神的辛德桑塞丹。

Zindersan Sedan of gods.

喜欢把自己伪装成一头公牛。

Loves to disguise himself as a bull.

可以说他的排名应该更高，不是吗？

It could be argued that he should be higher, couldn't it?

这全是宙斯的雷霆怒火带来的风暴与激情。

It's all Sturm und Drang with, Zeus' net thunder.

但显然，这位希腊众神之神、奥林匹斯之主，根本不需要任何介绍。

But obviously, the the Greek god the the Greek king of the gods, lord of Olympus, really needs no introduction.

然后我们还有另一位，众神之父。

And then we've got another, father of the gods.

第六号种子是奥丁。

Number six seed is Odin.

是的。

Yes.

我一直很好奇，你知道，宙斯和奥丁谁会赢呢？

Well, this is I've always wondered, you know, who would win between Zeus

我们可能会知道答案。

and Odin as that We may find out.

我们可能会知道答案。

We may find out.

我的意思是，这就像巴西对德国，不是吗？

I mean, that would be that would be that's kind of Brazil, Germany, isn't it?

宙斯，那将是一场巨大的对决。

Zeus It's a massive would be a massive match.

确实如此。

Mass it is.

就像新西兰和南非的橄榄球比赛一样。

New Zealand, South Africa in rugby or something.

这简直是一场史诗级的对决，是的。

So just a colossal encounter Yeah.

在两个人之间

Between two people

他们某种程度上是

who kind of are

在我心目中是相似的，但也许

the same in my mind, but maybe

但奥丁只有一只眼睛。

Except that Odin's only got one eye.

而这是否会限制他，是的。

And whether that would inhibit him Yeah.

你知道的，帮帮他。

You know, help him.

我说不出这会如何帮助你。

I can't say how it help you.

这会怎样呢，当我们看到

How would it well, when we're seeing

嗯，这赋予了他更大的智慧。

Well, it gives him greater wisdom.

好吧。

Okay.

是的。

Yeah.

说得有道理。

Fair fair enough.

说得通。

Fair enough.

ISIS是什么？ISIS是啥？

ISIS is the what's ISIS?

第五号种子，是她吗？

The fifth seed, is she?

是的。

Yes.

对。

Yeah.

第五号种子。

Fifth seed.

是的。

Yeah.

所以我认为ISIS是埃及的。

So I think ISIS is the Egyptian.

是的。

Yeah.

所以

So

不是那个不是那个

Not the not the

逊尼派哈里发国。

the Sindor Caliphate.

不。

No.

我们在谈一个埃及组织。

We're talking Egyptian group.

不。

No.

不。

No.

那是未来的世界杯。

That's a future World Cup.

我认为ISIS也有持久性。

We'll I think ISIS so Isis has longevity as well.

对吧？

Right?

因为ISIS在晚期罗马帝国非常流行。

Because Isis continue Isis was very popular in the later Roman empire.

是

Am

我对吗？

I right?

大对手，克里斯蒂亚诺，

Big rival, Christiano,

显然，埃及得到了巨大的支持。

obviously, huge support for Egypt.