第18周回顾：史上最钢人队式比赛、西雅图统治力、MVP之争、季后赛名单确定、迈尔斯·加勒特创纪录、麦当娜属于我们的时代之前

是的。

Yeah.

但DK，我很好奇你的看法，不过我同意格雷格的观点。

But DK, I'm I'm curious what you I I I agree with Greg, though.

我认为这可能是罗杰斯自第一周大胜喷气机以来为钢人队打过的最好的比赛。

I think this was probably the the best game Rodgers has played for the Steelers since week one when he throttled the Jets.

是的。

Yeah.

我的意思是，他看起来状态很好。

I mean, he looked sharp.

他确实表现得很出色，看起来一点也不像他的年龄。

He did he it didn't look he didn't look his age.

甚至有一次他冲跑并抢下了一些码数，还试图撞倒一名球员。

There was even a point where he, like, scrambled and kinda picked up some yards and and tried to, like, truck a guy.

好吧，现在正是提出这个数据的好时机：本赛季亚伦·罗杰斯的20码以上冲跑次数比拉马尔·杰克逊还多。

Well, I mean, here's the perfect time to drop the stat that Aaron Rodgers has more 20 yard runs this season than Lamar Jackson.

这太好笑了。

Which is hilarious.

是啊。

That is Yeah.

你知道吗，我们得在节目最后做个分类。

You know, we we we're gonna have to do a category at the end of the show.

就一次。

Which is one.

他只有一次。

He has one.

但我们做过重看经典。

But we did the rewatchables

这个数据是今年的。

stat is year.

我们做过

We did the

这可能是今年最惊人的数据。

that might be the stat of the year.

罗杰斯的20码和1码冲球次数比拉马尔还多。

Rogers has more twenty and one yard runs than Lamar.

老兄，拉马尔，是啊，我的意思是，他现在明显不在状态。

Dude, Lamar, yeah, Lamar I mean, he's clearly not himself right now.

比如，当他在外线移动时，有几次他跑出了口袋。

Like, just when he's moving around outside the pocket, there's a couple times he got outside and ran.

我的意思是，他确实制造了一些机会，但完全不像他自己。

And, I mean, he definitely made some things happen, but he did not look like himself whatsoever.

不过，是场精彩的比赛。

But, yeah, fun game.

像往常一样，比赛最后靠踢球决定胜负，结果那个年轻的新秀踢球手居然直接踢丢了。

It sucks that it came down to kicks as usual, and then the the the young new kicker just fucking missed it.

但我

But I

我确实告诉过莉兹。

did I did tell Liz.

我当时就想，这家伙是新秀，刚为球队输掉了比赛，还葬送了他们的季后赛机会。

I was like, oh, that guy's a rookie, and he just lost the game for his team to knock on his playoffs.

她就说，天哪。

And she was like, oh my god.

我感觉太糟糕了。

I feel so bad.

是啊。

Yeah.

说到踢球手啊。

That's Talk about kickers.

这是世界上最糟糕的感觉。

It's the worst feeling in the world.

就像你知道的，阿特拉斯得骗赫拉克勒斯扛起整个世界的重量，然后他又骗他把这担子接回去。

It's like, you know, Atlas, like, they Atlas has to trick Hercules to hold the weight of the world at his shoulders, and then, like, he tricks him to take it back.

而且我觉得这就像博斯韦尔。

And it's like, that is I feel like that is Boswell.

就像博斯韦尔背负着整个生命都将因此改变的重担。

Like, Boswell just has the weight of, like, oh, my entire life will just be different now.

是的。

Yeah.

然后，两分钟过去了，该死的泰勒·卢普直接从他手里把球抢走了。

And then, like, two minutes go by and fucking Tyler Loop just takes it from him.

博斯韦尔心想：天哪。

Boswell's like, oh my god.

我在想

I wonder

卢普有没有因为博斯韦尔错失的射门而感到恐慌。

if Loop was freaked out by by Boswell's missed kick.

外面到底发生了什么？

Like, what's going on out there?

如果他没踢进，这到底是怎么做到的？

What kind of wizardry is taking place on If he missed it.

嗯。

Yeah.

他是从25码外没踢进的吗？

He missed it from '25?

嗯。

Yeah.

我得说，我觉得老鹰队在最后那波进攻中的计时管理和战术安排非常有意思，比如，拉马尔在那次滚翻进攻中没有把球传给德安德烈·霍普金斯。

I gotta say, I thought the Ravens I thought it was very interesting clock management and play calling down that down the stretch of that final that final series where, one, Lamar didn't pass it to DeAndre Hopkins on that rollout.

我知道他想让德安德烈冲向端区，但那看起来是个他本可以传中并至少推进10码的机会。

And I know he wanted DeAndre to run up the field, but that looked like a guy he could have hit and gotten at least 10 yards out of that.

他们当时就在讨论这一点。

And they were discussing that.

然后他们逐步分析到这个情况，我认为这应该是泰勒·卢普的一次42码射门。

And then they worked their way down to where this was, I think it was a 42 yard field goal for Tyler Loop.

你们知道吗，当时还剩十二秒，他们还有一次暂停，却决定只是把球摆好位置。

What did you guys it was they had twelve seconds left and a timeout, and they decided to just, like, position the ball Right.

叫个暂停，让卢普上来踢球。

Call the timeout, and have Loop come in and kick it.

而不是尝试再推进一段，你们本可以再推进五到七码，然后再叫暂停。

Rather than try and ruin a play, you could have probably gotten another five, seven yards and then called a timeout.

然后你们就得在球被接住的地方踢球，这显然是当然的。

And then you would have had to kick it wherever they caught the ball, obviously.

但我认为42码并不算很近。

But I thought that was 42 is not that close.

球队经常这么做。

Teams do this all the time.

这很奇怪。

It's weird.

是啊。

Yeah.

44码射门。

44 yard field goal.

我觉得，如果今年不是有这么多长距离射门成功的年份，这种情况会显得更奇怪。

I think it it would feel even stranger if this wasn't a year where, so many long kicks have been made.

迈克·蒂里科，这位大师级人物，总是出现在解说席上，我认为他是最好的实况解说员，他提到了泰勒·卢普。

Mike Tirico, who is the man and always on just Mike Tirico is the, I think, the best play by play, and he made the point of Tyler Loop.

他所有的失误都来自52码以上，所以我认为重点就是这44码一再出现。

All his misses being from 52 plus, so I think that that's the point is the 44 yards over and over.

我认为，坦白说，原因在于约翰·哈伯，他对结束进攻的多次持球犯规感到非常愤怒。

I think the reason frankly is John Harbaugh, I think was really pissed about all the holdings that ended the drive.

在上半场，乌鸦队多次被罚，我认为约翰因此受到了处罚。

In the first half of the Ravens, the Ravens had all these flags, and I think John penalized.

我觉得他们只是觉得：我们已经走得太远了。

I think they were just like we've come too far.

如果三个月前有人告诉我，我们能靠一记44码射门晋级季后赛，我会不惜一切代价做到。

We're gonna like if you told me we can make a 44 yard field goal to make the playoffs three months ago, I would have done anything for that.

而且我觉得

And I think

那时候

the time

你本可以跑球的。

you could have even run the ball.

但没错，没错。

But yeah, Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

他们本可以跑球的。

They could have run the ball.

而且说实话，你是个钢人队球迷。

And imagine honestly, you're a Steelers fan.

正如DK所指出的，所有数据分析其实都在试图弄清楚对方球迷想要什么。

As DK has noted, all analytics are just trying to figure out what the opposing fans want.

当然。

Sure.

你难道不希望再有一次机会让德里克·亨利掉球吗？

Didn't you want one more chance to make Derrick Henry fumble?

你难道不宁愿用那个机会换德里克·亨利多推进四码吗？

Wouldn't you have rather that traded that opportunity for, like, Derrick Henry getting four more yards?

我不知道。

I don't know.

我不这么认为。

I don't think so.

给我

Give me

有机会完成一次擒抱之类的。

the opportunity to get, like, a sack or something.

是的。

Yeah.

我觉得，像这种由新秀踢出的44码射门。

I think I think, like, a 44 yard field goal with a with a rookie.

我宁愿要这个，也不愿他们试图再推进五码之类的。

I I wanted that over them trying to get five yards closer or something.

DK，如果野马队再打一回合，让德里克·亨利尝试靠近一点，你作为钢人队球迷，

DK, if so if the Ravens had ran one more play with Derrick Henry at to to try to get closer, you're you were a Steelers fan.

你肯定会为此感到兴奋吧。

Would you be you would have been, like, excited for that.

对吧？

Right?

我跟你说，我不会觉得兴奋。

I'm telling you, I would not have been.

我很高兴他们决定后退两码，摆好球然后射门。

I I was I was happy that they decided to lose two yards by placing the ball and kick it.

我觉得他们离得太远了。

I thought they were too far away.

他跪地时后退得太远了。

I well, the more he went too far backward on the kneel.

这让我很不爽。

That bothered me.

他因此倒退了两码。

He lost how he lost two yards on it.

我就想，直接往边上走就行了。

I'm like, just go the side.

在25码线处尝试42码射门，然后变成了

42 yarder there on the 25, and then it became a

四十四码。

twenty forty four.

对。

Yeah.

热情地往后退。

Enthusiastically backward.

我不知道。

I don't know.

那场球真是又紧张又刺激，情感上的消耗简直难以置信。

That was the most snip snap, like, the emotional toll game I can that was unbelievable.

我认为这并不是我见过的最好的第18周收官战之一。

I don't think that's one of the better week 18 final games I've ever seen.

别管这是不是今年的最后一场比赛了。

Don't if that's the last game of the year.

天哪。

Dude.

是啊。

Yeah.

我觉得任何比赛都再也无法超越第18周充电者队对突袭者队的那场了，当时布兰登·斯泰利和赫伯特在所有第四档进攻中都表现得淋漓尽致。

I don't think anything will ever top that Chargers Raiders game in week 18, whereas Brandon Staley versus Herbert did all the fourth downs.

赛前大家还一直开玩笑说，哦，如果他们打平，两队都能晋级。

And everyone kept joking going into that game like, oh, if they tie, they both make it.

你能想象吗？

Can you imagine?

而且，整整一周大家都在这么说。

And, like, everyone just said that for a week.

然后突然间，我们进入了加时赛，天哪。

And then suddenly, like, we're in overtime, and it's like, oh my god.

他们就要打平了，两人互相看了一眼场边，布兰·斯泰利却搞砸了。

They're gonna tie, and they kinda looked across the sidelines, and Bran Staley just fucked it up.

但这场比赛 honestly 可能是我见过的最好的第18周比赛之一，排名第二

But this game honestly might be second in terms of, like, one of the best week 18 games I can

永远不可能有比这更好的了。

ever have.

这是突袭者对钢人队的比赛，而且是在匹兹堡进行的。

It being Ravens Steelers, and it's, like, in Pittsburgh.

没错。

Right.

现在是一月。

It's January.

就像，这两支球队的历史让这场比赛更加精彩。

Like, the just the history of these two teams made it that much better.

就连柯林斯沃思的解说也让这场比赛更加出色。

Even having Collinsworth on the call made it that much better.

阿隆·罗杰斯和拉马尔有，

Aaron Rodgers and Lamar have,

什么？

like, what?

他们加起来有六个MVP吗？

Six MVPs between them?

老天，看这场比赛我感觉像是在看2008年的比赛。

Dude, I felt like it was 2,008 watching this game.

这场比赛在各个方面都太棒了。

It was fantastic in every single way.

太棒了。

That's awesome.

罗杰斯是...我的意思是，我有点喜欢罗杰斯还在坚持老派风格。

Rodgers was was I mean, I kinda love Roger still doing the old school.

感觉像是他是唯一一个还在用老派四分卫方式打球的球员，他就那样在场边大喊大叫，比如‘MBS，过来’。

It feels like he's the only quarterback left still playing football the way old quarterbacks do, where he's just, like, out there, like, yelling at he's like, MBS, come here.

他还在手上画路线图。

He's, like, drawing routes on his hand.

我就是爱死它了，老兄。

And I just I love it, man.

就像是绿18战术一样。

It's like it's like Green 18.

我们所处的这个世界。

The world we're living in.

绿18。

Green 18.

绿18。

Green 18.

这太难了。

It's so tricky.

是的。

Yeah.

他就像

He's like

试图在场上同时盯住12个人。

trying to catch 12 men on the field at all times.

没人其他人在这么做。

Like, no one else is doing that.

我太喜欢了。

I love it.

天啊。

Oh my god.

他就只会说这个吗？

Is that the only thing he says?

是绿色18。

It's green 18.

对吧？

Right?

他不是总说这个吗？

Isn't that what he says?

对。

Yeah.

绿色18。

Green 18.

我不知道他这么说多久了。

I wonder how long he's been saying that.

你们觉得我想聊这个是不是有点疯？

Do you guys think I'm crazy for I wanna talk about this.

当钢人队对卡尔文·奥斯汀完成那次糟糕的防守，从而领先两分的时候。

The moment when the Steelers, when the Steelers scored that that kind of blown coverage or whatever that was to Calvin Austin that put them up two.

当时还剩五十五秒。

There was fifty five seconds.

我当时觉得他们应该去拼两分。

I thought they should have gone for two.

我立刻发了短信，因为我想：还剩五十五秒，乌鸦队还有三个暂停，加上新的开球规则和如今踢球手的出色表现。

I immediately texted it before anything because I was like, fifty five seconds and the Ravens have three timeouts with the new kickoff rules and how good kickers are.

我当时就觉得，他们肯定能推进到射门范围内。

And I was like, they are obviously going to get into field goal range.

如果我们现在就去拼两分，我认为他们早就锁定胜局了。

And if we just go for two now, I think they they would have secured the win.

当然，巴asil最后还是没踢进，所以我们依然处于生死攸关的领先局面。

And, of course, Basil ends up missing it anyway, so we're still in this do or die situation up too.

但我认为他们当时就应该去拼两分。

But I thought they should have went for two.

是的。

Yeah.

事后看来，百分之百应该如此。

In hindsight, a 100%.

是的。

Yeah.

完全正确。

Totally.

我当时觉得，就该直接拿一分，让比分变成三分差距，然后迫使对方真正执行进攻。

I thought in the moment in the moment, it was like, just get get the point, like, know, and then make it three point game and then, like, force them to actually execute.

你懂我的意思吗？

You know what I mean?

但他们没执行好。

And they didn't execute.

你知道，一旦博斯韦尔踢丢了一球，局势就变了，但我认为他们还是应该选择拿一分，然后迫使巴尔的摩队再次进攻并成功踢进任意球。

They obviously, like, once once Boswell missed a kick, like, the the equation changed, but I think they still probably just you just take the odds of hitting hitting the, extra point and then going back and forcing the Ravens to execute and actually get a field goal.

嗯。

Yeah.

我的意思是，不管怎样，如果你错过了射门，你就赢了。

I mean, either way, if you missed the field goal, you win.

即使你尝试两分但没成功。

Even if you go for two and don't get it.

所以我当时有点想，我不知道。

So I was kinda like, I don't know.

我觉得这样能赢下比赛。

I think this wins the game.

如果你尝试两分并成功，那就赢了。

If you go for two and get anything, that wins the game.

也许你可以叫个暂停好好想想。

Maybe you take a time out and think about it.

你的意思是，即使在他们那次进攻失败后，比如盖恩韦尔的传球战术搞砸了，你还是希望他们

You're saying that even after their fork down, like, the pitch play at Gainwell where they fucked it up, like, they you want them

我觉得去拼两分会有点疯狂。

to I don't think I think going for two would have been a little crazy.

这会让人担心。

It would have been a worry.

这本会

It would have

最后会在端区变成一个失败的传球。

been a fade to fucking MVS in the end zone.

我们会想，我们为什么要这么做？

It would have been, why the fuck did we do that?

我也很喜欢头盔一直往外飞的那个画面。

Also, I loved when the helmet kept going out.

克里斯·柯林斯沃思说，那为什么埃拉不直接叫个战术呢？

Chris Collinsworth was like, so why doesn't Era just call a play?

什么？

What?

他其他时候都是这么做的。

It's what he does all the other times.

就好像这个家伙唯一想做的就是指挥进攻。

It's like all this guy wants is to run the offense.

他就像说，嘿，亚伦。

He's like, hey, Aaron.

你根本听不到教练的指令。

You can't even hear your coaches.

这不正是你的梦想吗？

Isn't this kind of your dream?

这才是最好的。

This is best.

钢人队取得了10胜7负的战绩。

The Steelers went ten and seven.

我想要罗杰斯回来。

I I I I want Rogers back.

我确实想。

I do.

我想要他明年回来。

I I want him back next year.

我觉得我们可以

I think we can

明年继续。

go next year.

我真心发现自己在那段时间里，这真的很搞笑，因为过去几年我一直有点反感罗杰斯，就因为他的一些言论。

I legitimately found myself during and this is, like, so funny because I I have always just kind of been, you know, anti Rogers the last couple of years just because of, like, some of the shit he says.

但当他们排好阵型准备踢球时，乌鸦队那边，我以为钢人队要输了。

But when they were when they were lining up to do the kick, the Ravens were, and I thought that the Steelers were gonna lose.

我当时想，天啊。

I was like, damn.

这可能就是他离开的方式。

This might be the way he goes out.

那太糟糕了。

That would suck.

嗯，我其实希望他能回来。

Like, I I kind of want him to come back.

我觉得现在是的。

And I think now Yeah.

是的。

Yeah.

无论季后赛结果如何，他大概都会回来。

Regardless of what happens in the playoffs, he'll probably come back.

他必须回来。

He has to.

老兄，我也得说一句，对不起。

Dude, I have also, I'm sorry.

我们得提一下那个疯传的帖子，有人说，如果是一对一的单打，亚伦·罗杰斯会把我的祖母扔向我祖母的骨灰，用一个后肩传球。

We have to mention this this viral post that was going around that someone said, Aaron Rodgers would throw my grandmother at my grandmother's ashes a back shoulder route if it was a one on one one one cut.

我是说，嗯。

I I mean Yeah.

是啊，老兄。

Yeah, man.

明年，会有更多这样的情况，但会有真正的休赛期来训练。

Next year, it will be a lot of that with but an actual offseason to practice.

我得说，我觉得罗杰斯今年整体表现不错。

I have to say, I thought generally Rogers is pretty good this year.

我很喜欢看他打球。

I enjoyed watching him play.

我觉得，不管他在乔·罗根播客上说的那些蠢话，球场上的球员们都很喜欢罗杰斯。

I think regardless of the dumbass shit he says on Joe Rogan's podcast, like, the field, the players like Rogers.

我觉得罗杰斯看球太棒了。

I think Rogers is awesome to watch.

大家都喜欢他。

Everybody seems to like him.

我觉得他今年在媒体上的表现非常出色，比如在新闻发布会上，谈论他的队友、对匹兹堡的热爱，以及迈克·汤林的领导力，还有在球队体系中的感受。

I thought he did a great job in the media this year with, like, in his pressers, talking about his teammates, talking about his love for Pittsburgh, and Mike Tomlin and the leadership, what and it was like being in the organization.

我觉得一个42岁、刚经历过跟腱撕裂的球员能打出这样的表现太棒了，我认为亚伦·罗杰斯今年为钢人队效力的表现，已经达到了我们能期待的极致。

I thought he played great for a fucking forty two year old who's had an Achilles tear in his like, I I thought he was as good as you could have ex have ever wanted from Aaron Rodgers coming to play for the Steelers this year.

接下来，我们来看看一些季后赛的对阵情况。

Well, going forward, so looking at some of these playoff matchups.

现在钢人队将主场迎战休斯顿 Texans。

So the Steelers now are gonna host the Texans.

对吧？

Right?

周一晚上。

Monday night.

这很有趣，因为一方面，Texans的防守和巴尔的摩乌鸦队的防守会非常不同。

Which is wild because on one hand, the Texans defense is gonna look very different than this Ravens defense.

当然。

Certainly.

这会一直紧逼他。

It's gonna hound him.

还有另一点。

That's the other thing.

DK，你刚才说罗杰斯今晚看起来像年轻人什么的。

DK, you talking about how Rogers looked young tonight and whatever.

我的意思是，乌鸦队根本没有传球压力。

I mean, the the Ravens had zero pass rush.

嗯。

Mhmm.

这正是罗杰斯能发挥出如此表现的重要原因。

That And is a big reason why Rogers was able to do what he did.

但面对丹尼尔·亨特和威尔·安德森的冲击，情况就不会这样了。

I that's not gonna be the case with Daniil Hunter and Will Anderson coming after.

没错。

Right.

不过我要说，从比赛风格和对位角度来看，我觉得这对钢人队来说是个不错的对阵，相比其他一些对手。

I will say, though, like, terms of play in terms of matchup styles makes fights or whatever, I think this is a good matchup for the Steelers relative to some the other ones.

没错。

Yeah.

钢人队完全有可能赢下这场比赛，

Steelers could absolutely win this game,

这简直太搞笑了。

which is hilarious.

我的意思是，

I mean,

我不信任CJ·斯特鲁德。

I don't I I don't trust CJ Stroud.

我不信任CJ·斯特鲁德。

I don't trust CJ Stroud.

有人泄密了。

Somebody leaked.

我不确定这是不是假的。

I I don't know if this was fake or not.

现在谁知道呢。

Who knows it these days.

我们说话时应该对每一件事都加上免责声明。

We should just caveat that with literally everything we say.

我看到的是，好像是FanDuel或者DraftKings。

I saw it like, I saw that it was FanDuel or DraftKings.

我不知道是谁。

I don't know who.

提前道歉。

Apologies in advance.

我们就说是DraftKings吧，因为他们搞错了。

We'll say it's DraftKings because they did it wrong.

但他们确实早早地开出了赔率。

But they, they put up an early line.

当时是休斯顿对匹兹堡，匹兹堡被让分1.5分，就在今晚比赛的第一节。

It was Houston, Pittsburgh minus Pittsburgh was favored by minus one and a half, like, in the first quarter of tonight's game.

大家都说，哦，剧本早就写好了。

And everyone's like, oh, script has been written.

NFL早就知道了。

Like, the NFL knows.

钢人队本该赢的。

The Steelers is supposed to win.

所以我很好奇最终的盘口会是多少。

And so I'm curious what the the line ends up being.

盘口出来了吗？

Is it out yet?

是多少？

What is it?

现在我看到的是 Texans 让2.5分。

Right now, I'm seeing Texans minus two and a half.

哦，好的。

Oh, okay.

所以，让我来读一下整个季后赛赛程。

So here, let me read this full playoff schedule.

好吧。

Alright.

关于钢人队和乌鸦队，你们还有什么别的看法吗？

Any anything else for you guys on Steelers Ravens specifically?

这简直难以置信。

That was unbelievable.

我就是忍不住一直笑 Steelers 的接球手阵容现状。

I just I I continually just crack up at the state of the Steelers receiving core.

天啊，亚当·希伦，他逼着球队释放他，好让他去争冠球队打球，结果就在过去两周才加入。

Fucking Adam Thielen who forced his team to to release him so he could go play for a contender and came in, like, came in, like, the last two weeks.

还有MVS，他们几周前才从街头捡回来的。

Got MVS who they picked up off the off the couch a couple weeks ago.

现在我觉得，有了DK·梅茨尔夫，简直是所向披靡。

Now I'm like, dude, with DK Metcalf were unstoppable.

卡爾文·奧斯汀看起來就像救世主一樣。

Calvin Austin looked like a like salvation.

他回來了，真是謝天謝地。

He like, thank god he was back.

我知道。

I know.

真搞笑，一支如此高水平的NFL球隊，尤其是歷史上曾擁有過史上最偉大接球手之一的球隊。

It's just so funny that an NFL team of that caliber in this history, especially of a history of having some of the best receivers of all time.

這本來是他們的強項。

Like, this was their thing.

他們擁有最頂尖的接球手。

They got the best receivers.

這一定是今年最令人難忘的比賽。

That has to be the most memorable game of the year.

这真的非常有趣。

It was really fun.

我的意思是，也许是公羊队对海鹰队的比赛。

I mean, maybe the Rams Seahawks game.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

我还想指出，MVS 和 亚当·希伦今年都效力过三支不同的球队。

I also think it's worth noting that both MVS and Adam Thielen were both of three different teams this season.

他们居然在赛季收官战中派出了这些球员，真是让人无语。

That's the guys that they're trotting out there in the in the gay like, the clinching game of the season.

太搞笑了。

Hilarious.

公羊队、海鹰队、钢人队、乌鸦队，也许还有包装工队对熊队的比赛，或者凯勒布投出的那个达阵。

Rams, Seahawks, Steelers, Ravens, maybe that Packers, Bears game, or Caleb threw that touchdown.

我正想着那个

I'm trying to think of the

年底的那场。

That that end of the year.

嗯。

Yeah.

那里

There

不过，那场球可能最让人难忘。

it that one, though, is probably gonna linger the most.

季后赛的赛程，我们这里有，会逐一讨论很多场比赛。

So the playoff schedule, so we have it here, and we'll go through a lot these games.

季后赛这么快就到了，真让人惊讶，通过

Wild that the playoffs are here, by the

方式。

way.

我太期待季后赛了，等不及了。

I'm so hyped for I can't wait for the playoffs.

这感觉是我记忆中最不可预测的季后赛。

This feels like the most unpredictable playoffs, and I that I can remember.

确实如此。

It it does.

确实有这种感觉。

It it it does feel that way.

所以周六，就像比尔和萨尔说的，那场颤抖的比赛。

So Saturday, the as Bill and Sal would call it the shakies game.

所以公羊队对阵美洲豹队，这很有趣，尤其是因为美洲豹队是季后赛中最差的球队，但他们确实赢了公羊队。

So the Rams are at the Panthers, and which is just funny, especially since the Panthers are the worst team in the playoffs, but they actually beat the Rams.

我知道。

I know.

太疯狂了。

It's wild.

是啊。

Yeah.

这个

The

绿湾包装工队对阵芝加哥熊队，

Packers are at the Bears,

我想和你们聊聊这个，

which I wanna talk to

非常想。

you guys about very much.

我觉得该选他们。

I believe that's a pick them.

周日有三场比赛。

Sunday, there's three games.

比尔队客场对阵美洲虎队。

Bills are at the Jaguars.

49人队客场对阵费城队。

The Niners are at Philadelphia.

充电器队客场对阵新英格兰队，而周一晚上将是休斯顿德州人队对阵匹兹堡钢人队，这太精彩了。

The Chargers are at New England, and then Monday night is going to be the Texans at the Pittsburgh Steelers, which is incredible.

所以，说到这里，

So with that said,

我，你觉得

I What do you

你觉得周一晚上的比赛怎么样，克雷格？

how do you feel about the Monday night game, the getting the Monday night game, Craig?

我非常喜欢，这给了罗杰斯多一天休息时间，这位老将。

I absolutely love it, and it gives Rogers an extra day to rest, that old man.

你需要我

You need to I

我觉得这

think that's

我觉得这很重要。

think that's a big deal.

如果他们在周六对阵周一，这对一个42岁的身体来说是个巨大的变化。

If they played Saturday versus Monday, that's a big swing for 42 year old body.

是的。

Yeah.

但我们必须谈谈那个不在名单上的球队，那就是西雅图海鹰队。

But we we we have to talk about one of the teams, though, that is not on that list, which is the the Seattle Seahawks.

NFC首轮的头号种子，DK的西雅图海鹰队，他们

The first round buy in the NFC, the number one seed, DK goes to your Seattle Seahawks, who

我简直不敢相信。

I can't believe this.

周六晚上完胜了49人队。

Kinda spanked the 49ers on Saturday night.

有点？

Kinda?

他们

They

我的意思是，除了比分以外的一切。

I mean, the everything but the scoreboard.

说清楚点。

Let's be clear.

比分是13比3，但那场比赛本该是26比3，海鹰队。

It was 13 to three, but that game very much should have been 26 to three, seahawks.

迪肯，你感觉怎么样？

Deacon, how do you feel?

你的球队可是国联头号种子。

Your team is literally the number one seed in the NFC.

说实话，感觉非常奇怪，因为今年一开始，我就没觉得海鹰队有头号种子的实力。

It feels very strange, to be totally honest, because at no point did I feel like the seahawks were a number one seed type of team coming into the year.

我一直觉得被冒犯了。

I thought I I I was always offended.

年初我就跟你们说过，真希望我们能回头找找这段话。

I told you guys at the beginning of the year that and I want I'd love that if we could go back and find this at some point.

我当时很生气，因为我觉得有一本书预测海鹰队的胜场数和红雀队一模一样。

Like, I was pissed because I I wanna say one of the books had the Seahawks win total exactly the same as the Cardinals.

我当时就觉得，这简直是在侮辱人。

And I was like, that is just insulting.

滚吧。

Get out of here.

你是在开玩笑吗？

Are you fucking kidding me?

他们去年赢了10场比赛，现在每个人又都跑去支持红雀队了，不管怎样。

They won 10 games last year, and now now everyone's all on the the cardinals jock or whatever.

所以我就真的被这件事深深冒犯了。

So I was just, like, really offended by that.

顺便说一下，红雀队赢了三场比赛。

The cardinals, by the way, won three games.

这还挺酷的。

So that's cool.

你怎么结束的？

How do you finish?

垫底吗？

Dead last?

是的。

Yeah.

他们最终排名多少？

What did they finish?

垫底吗？

Dead last?

他们赢了三场比赛。

They won three games.

海鹰队赢了14分。

The Seahawks won 14.

闭嘴吧。

Suck it.

选秀第三顺位。

Third pick in the draft.

等等。

Wait.

我得查一下。

I'm I have to look this up.

我刚刚才想起来，我差点忘了。

You just I just I forgot until right now.

我其实押了海鹰队赢得超级碗，赔率是70比1。

I actually have the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl at 70 to one.

是吗？

Do you?

这说明他们的赔率是70比1

Which is the fact that they were 70

。

to one.

你下注了吗？

Did you put on it?

说实话。

Be honest.

他妈的还不够。

Fucking not enough.

多少？

How much?

告诉我。

Tell me.

我正拼命想

I'm trying to desperately trying

去找那个赌注，但我得弄清楚当时的情况是什么。

to find the bet, but I have to figure out what state it was at.

如果你要打赌，你觉得会是多少？

What do think it was if you had to bet?

二十吗？

At 20?

十美元？

$10?

嗯。

Yeah.

大概是二十五美元。

Probably $25.

关于海鹰队，我来说一下我的看法。

Here's here's what I'll say about the seahawks.

在这场对阵49人队的比赛前，我觉得这会是一场非常接近的比赛。

Coming into this game against the forty niners, I kind of I felt like it would be a really close game.

我觉得这会是那种打完之后让我特别难受的比赛，但海鹰队在旧金山彻底碾压了49人队，而这场比赛对双方都至关重要。

I felt like it would be one of those games where I feel really miserable afterwards, but the seahawks fucking dominated in San Francisco in a game that was really important to both teams.

他们总共推进了361码，而49人队只有173码；跑球方面，海鹰队180码对49人队53码，完全压制了对手。

They they they outgained the forty niners, 361 yards, 173, outrushed them a 180 to 53.

这是凯尔·沙纳汉时代49人队最糟糕的一场进攻表现。

This was the worst offensive game in the Kyle Shanahan era.

49人队球迷会提出各种借口，我觉得这些理由确实有道理。

There's all these caveats that forty niners fans would throw out, and I and I think it's valid.

比如，特伦特·威廉姆斯没有上场。

Like, Trent Williams was not in there.

你可以说基特尔可能还没完全康复，但即便如此，这仍然是一场关键比赛。

You could argue Kittle's probably not fully healthy, but still, this was, like, a make or break game.

不是生死战，但绝对是一场非常重要的比赛。

Not make or break, but, like, a very important game.

特伦特·威廉姆斯已经缺席了过去一两周的比赛，而布洛克·帕迪已经在这几场比赛中完成了10次达阵。

Trent Williams hasn't played, what, the last week or two, and Brock Purdy has, like, 10 touchdowns in those games.

我不在乎特伦特·威廉姆斯没打这场比赛。

I don't care Trent Williams missed the game.

他们只得了三分。

They scored three fucking points.

他们根本动不起来。

They couldn't move.

我试图公平一点。

I'm trying to be fair.

我试图公平一点。

I'm trying to be fair.

你没必要非得公平。

You you don't have to try to be fair.

这完全是压倒性的胜利。

It was absolutely dominant.

你知道你为什么没必要公平吗？

You know why you don't have to be fair?

因为49人队有尼克·穆伦斯和吉米·加波洛，还有这一时期49人队轮番上场的那些四分卫。

Because the Niners had Nick Mullens and Jimmy Garoppolo and, like, the like, the quarterbacks, the Niners have trotted out over the course of this era.

就像，49人队，我感觉我从一周前对阵熊队的比赛里，看到了49人队进攻的整个谱系，那场比赛仿佛已是很久以前的事了。

Like, it was the the Niners the the the I felt like I watched the entire spectrum of the Niners offense between the Bears game a week ago that felt like eons ago.

而这场对阵海鹰队的比赛，才过去六天左右。

And this Seahawks it was six days or whatever.

一周之内，49人队的表现差异简直难以置信。

It was unbelievable the difference between the niners, in in one week.

布罗克·帕迪的传球图表，你知道NG Nextgen统计数据是怎么做传球图表的吗？

The Brock Purdy passing chart, you know how NG Nextgen stats does their passing charts.

我的意思是，看起来就像布莱斯·杨会打出的那种表现。

Mean, it looked like something Bryce Young would put out.

基本上所有传球都不到10码，都是往侧面传，基本上就是在硬生生地拼出进攻。

It it was like nothing past 10 yards, a bunch of stuff to the side, you know, basically just trying to manufacture offense.

海鹰队完全封锁了对手，这让我对海鹰队充满信心。

The Seahawks absolutely put the clamps on, and that makes me really confident, obviously, for the Seahawks.

我们之前说过，这届季后赛真奇怪。

This is a like we said it before, this is a weird playoffs.

感觉谁都有可能赢。

Feels like anybody can win.

我觉得海鹰队拥有超级碗级别的防守，关键就看他们怎么处理萨姆·达诺尔德了，如果他能继续至少打得更稳一点的话。

I think the seahawks have a Super Bowl defense, and it just kinda depends on what they do with Sam Darnold if he can continue to, like, play at least a little bit more disciplined football.

他在这场比赛中没有出现任何失误。

He didn't have any turnovers in this game.

谢天谢地。

Thank god.

我觉得这会是个大问题，因为这场比赛实在太接近了。

I think, because that would have been a huge deal because this was such a close game.

真他妈搞砸了。

Sucks fucked it up.

他们的踢球手错过了两次简单的射门，而且有一次四档进攻也失败了。

Their kicker missed two easy kicks, and they had a fourth down conversion that went awry.

他们只是尝试了各种方法来保持比赛的悬念，但我认为，凭借他们现有的球员阵容和迈克·麦克唐纳德教练的出色指挥，这支防守确实非同凡响。

It was just like they they tried a lot of ways to, like, keep this game close, but I do think with this defense, with the the personnel that they have, the coaching from Mike McDonald's incredible.

德文·威瑟斯彭和尼克·埃穆瓦里是两位非常独特的球员，他们特别擅长应对跑球为主的球队、攻守平衡的球队，以及喜欢身体对抗的球队。

Devin Witherspoon and Nick Emunwari are two very unique players, and it really helps that they can match up with run heavy teams, teams that are balanced, teams that wanna be physical.

他们能在镍包和 dime 防守中做到这一点，因为他们拥有这些能像线卫一样防守跑球的角卫。

And they can do that in, like, nickel and dime defenses because they have these DBs that can basically play the run like they're linebackers.

所以我认为，海鹰队的防守是一种独特的类型。

So the Seahawks defensively have I I think, like, it's a type of defense.

我确实没怎么见过西雅图队有过这种防守体系，甚至自 LOB 时代以来，几乎任何球队都没见过这样的防守。

I haven't really seen this type of defense for Seattle in particular, but for really any team since, like, the the LOB era.

真的就是这种感觉。

That's really how it feels.

这太惊人了。

I it's it's it's so amazing.

有趣的是，如果要极度简化海鹰队当年在军团之怒时代和皮特·卡罗尔（愿他安息，你知道的，就在今天之后）所做的事情。

And it's funny because to deeply oversimplify what the SEALKS did with the Legion of Boom and Pete Carroll who RIP, you know, after today.

但他没死，你知道的？

But what the He's not dead, but you know?

我知道。

I know.

但这种感觉就是这样。

But what this it feels that way.

但六年前，海鹰队的‘突袭者防线’，简单来说，是这样做的。

But what the six did, like, thirteen years ago with the Legion of Boom was to oversimplify it.

联盟修改了关于接球手接触规则。

The league changed the rules with how receivers and you could contact them.

而进攻方每个人都追求速度，所有人都变得更快。

And the and everyone on offense, it was about speed, and everyone's getting faster.

防守方也感觉必须变得更快。

And there was a feeling on defense you had to go faster.

但海鹰队却反其道而行之，他们说：我们要更凶悍，要更猛烈地冲撞你。

And the Seahawks went the other way, and they're like, we're actually gonna get more physical, and we're gonna hit you more.

于是他们采用了这种完全可预测的防守，你知道接下来会发生什么，但他们比你更强壮，你无能为力。

And so they played this defense that was totally predictable, and you knew it was gonna happen, but they were bigger than you, and there was nothing you could do.

他们将通过执行和更强硬的对抗来取胜。

And they were gonna execute and out physical.

如今，海鹰队的防守是我们自那支传奇防线以来见过的最出色的防守之一。

And now the Seahawks defense is one of the best defenses we've seen since that Legion of Boom Seahawks defense.

嗯。

Mhmm.

但不同于以往每回合都可预测，现在的防守完全不可预测，虽然看起来都一样，但你无法

Except instead of being predictable play to play, it is completely unpredictable, and it it all looks the same, but you don't

知道它究竟有多复杂。

know what it's gonna of complexity.

是的。

Yeah.

没错。

Yeah.

他们总是在开球前和开球后一次次地试图迷惑你。

And it's all just like, they're trying to confuse you before the play and then again after the play every single time.

但他们做的其实是一样的事，而现在每个人都在变得更强壮，场上也都会安排更多近端锋。

But they've done the same thing, whereas everyone's getting bigger, and everyone's gonna have more tight ends on the field.

每个人都在试图用身体优势压制对手。

And everyone's trying out physically.

匹兹堡钢人队干脆不管了。

The Steelers are really, fuck it.

我们要打得更轻盈一些。

We're gonna go smaller.

我们根本不会去对位你们的边路。

We're not even gonna match your side.

他们做的是另一回事，但本质上还是同样的东西。

Like, they're they're they're doing a different thing, doing the same thing.

因为他们觉得：我们没必要去对位你们的边路。

Because they're like, we're not gonna match your side.

在某些方面，我们追求速度。

We're going, in some ways, speed.

他们追求速度和速度，而不是对位体型，这非常有趣。

They're going speed and speed as opposed to to matching the size, which is, it's fascinating.

所以迈克·麦克唐纳，我的意思是，我们非常喜欢的格雷格·罗森塔尔说，他会投票给迈克·麦克唐纳当选年度最佳教练，我认为这完全合理。

So Mike McDonald I mean, Greg Rosenthal, who we love, he said he's gonna vote for Mike McDonald's coach of the year, which I think is totally valid.

因为如果你想想，他执教的是联盟最佳防守，而且球队还取得了14场胜利，这太了不起了。

Because if you think about the fact that he's calling the best defense in the league and they also went and had the 14 games, that's amazing.

但那是14场胜利。

But 14 wins.

他们的净胜分远超NFL其他球队。

They they had the best point differential in the NFL by far.

他们的8场胜利都是两位数分差。

Eight of their wins have been double digits.

他们几乎一直在统治比赛。

They've been pretty much dominating it.

在我们离开迈克·麦克唐纳之前，我想再提一点，我真的非常欣赏他作为一名教练，因为他经常在新闻发布会上提到，他注重的是球员的努力。

And the other thing that I wanna point out about Mike McDonald before we move off of him, I I just I do think I really appreciate him as a coach because and he talks about this in lot of his press conferences is he coaches effort.

如果你没有足够的拼劲，不积极冲撞，每回合都不积极向球跑去，他就会说：‘我会回看录像，看看球员的努力程度如何’，然后针对性地指导他们提升努力程度，诸如此类的话。

And, you know, if you don't have a ton of effort and you don't hit and you don't get like, rally to the football on every play and all that, he's like, you know, even when a guy makes a bad play or when he's, like, plays not very well in the game, you hear McDonald talking about, like, well, I'm gonna go back and watch the tape and see what the effort was like, and, know, coach him up on the effort, blah blah blah.

海鹰队真的总是积极向球跑去。

And, man, the seahawks just rally to the football.

这场比赛的一个巨大差异就是，49人队漏掉了

That was one of the big differences in this game was the 49ers missed

漏得一塌糊涂。

like crazy.

没错。

Yeah.

49人队在这场比赛中漏掉了大约十五到二十次擒抱，而海鹰队只漏掉了三到四次。

The 49ers missed, like, fifteen, twenty tackles in this game, and the Seahawks missed almost it it was, like, three or four tackles in this game that they missed.

作为球迷，看到这样的表现真的让我感到无比满足。

And so that to me is just so satisfying to watch as a fan.

天啊，他们防守擒抱得太好了。

It's like, man, they just tackle so well.

这感觉就是，你知道的，简直像一种原始的冲动。

It's it's just so, you know, it's like almost like a primal feeling.

我的天，咱们的防守真的能他妈的擒抱住人。

It's like, man, our defense can fucking tackle.

我就是喜欢看这种场面。

I I just love watching that

这种防守。

type of defense.

DK完全炸毛了。

DK's all horned up.

我太喜欢了。

I love it.

克雷格，你也有点炸毛了，所以让我先说会儿。

Craig, you you got a little horned up too, so just let me have my time.

哦，我真的很为你高兴。

Oh, I'm I'm I'm very happy for you.

海鹰队配得上这一切。

Seahawks deserve it.

我觉得现在 NFC 的核心就在西雅图，这太棒了。

I think it's awesome that the NFC runs through Seattle now.

说实话，我觉得这场胜利固然重要，但我觉得这对萨姆·达诺尔德的自信心意义重大。

I honest I thought I thought while the win was very important, obviously, I just thought this was huge for Sam Darnold's confidence.

哦，没错。

Oh, yeah.

去年第18周在明尼苏达，达诺尔德41次传球只完成18次。

Week 18 last year in Minnesota, Darnold goes 18 for 41.

他们被狮子队血洗，之后在季后赛外卡赛对阵公羊队的结局就可想而知了。

They get killed by the lions, and then the rest is history against the rams in the wild card.

我觉得这对萨姆·达诺尔德在进入季后赛前获得心理上的安定至关重要。

Like, I just thought that was massively important for kind of just, like, peace of mind going into the playoffs with Sam Darnold.

我觉得他完成了很多关键的进攻。

I thought he made a lot of huge plays.

我真的很喜欢他们一直选择传球。

I I really like that they kept throwing the ball.

比如到了第三节和第四节，他们仍然依赖他。

Like, into the third and fourth quarter, they still relied on him.

他在移动中表现得很出色。

He was great on the move.

他们持续传球。

They kept throwing.

他用跑动完成了关键的进攻。

He made big plays with his legs.

我觉得这整体上是一场非常令人安心的萨姆·达诺尔德表现。

I I I thought that was, like, a very assure reassuring Sam Darnold performance across the board.

是的。

Yeah.

完全同意。

Totally.

说实话，我认为凯莱布·威廉姆斯在对阵49人防守时打出了他今年最好的比赛，而我觉得萨姆·达诺德的表现甚至比数据所显示的还要出色，我很好奇老鹰队会如何应对。

I honestly I mean, Caleb Williams played his best game of the year against the niners defense, and then I thought Sam Darnold played better than the number show against the niners d, and I I'm curious to see how the eagles do.

但在我们离开49人话题之前，我必须得给你读一下这个。

But before we leave the niners, I do have to say I have to read you this.

这听起来简直像是粉丝虚构的情节。

Just one of those that sounds like fan fiction.

连续两年赢得14场比赛的四分卫，汤姆·布雷迪，萨姆·达诺德。

Quarterbacks who have won 14 games two years in a row, Tom Brady, Sam Darnold.

是的。

Yeah.

我不敢相信这有点不同，因为那是16场比赛的赛程。

I can't believe that's that kind of is a little different because of the 16 game schedules.

改成17场后更容易做到这一点，因为我当时想，天啊，罗杰斯、该死的布雷迪、马霍姆斯和佩顿·曼宁，没人做到过，但14胜两连冠。

The switch to 17 makes it a lot easier to do that because I was like, man, Rogers and fucking Brady and Mahomes and Peyton Manning, no one's ever done that, but 14 to two.

克雷格，即使你把它缩短到13场，并且稍作调整，这也简直全是名人堂球员和萨姆·达诺尔德了。

Craig, even if you, like, shorten it to 13 and and kind of account for it, it's it's like all hall of famers and Sam Darnold.

完全没错。

Totally.

是啊。

Yeah.

太疯狂了。

It's crazy.

难以置信。

Unbelievable.

达诺尔德过去两个赛季的胜场数，比喷气机队过去六年全队的胜场还多。

Darnold has as many wins the last two seasons as the Jets as a team do the past six years.

天啊。

God.

天啊。

God.