莱昂纳多·迪卡普里奥抢走了你的女孩

那个星球叫什么来着？

planet called?

某种……

Some...

雾或者糖，甜的东西。

Mist or sugar, sweetness.

香料。

Spice.

香料。

Spice.

对，就是那个。

That's what it is.

香料。

Spice.

香料是燃料。

Spice is fuel.

香料就是光。

Spice is light.

所以香料基本上可以当很多东西用。

So the spice basically doubles as, like, a lot of things.

它还能用来做时间旅行。

It can be used for time travel.

就像……

It's like...

那就是它作为燃料的部分。

And that's like the fuel portion of it.

就是……

It's just...

它的价值非常高。

It has a ton of value.

基本上人人都想要，而且只有那颗星球上才能采集到。

Everyone wants it, basically, and it can only be collected on that planet.

所以那个星球上的原住民就特别讨厌那些外来的人，你知道的，各种不同的人跑进来抢他们的东西，杀他们的人，还想控制一切。

And so the indigenous people of that planet hate all the, you know, these different, you know, people coming in and taking it from them and killing them all and trying to be in control of it.

所以从这个角度看，感觉就像是美国和中东的翻版，或者类似的情况。

So in that way, it felt like a direct one to one of, like, America and The Middle East or some shit.

我明白了。

I see.

所以……

So...

阿拉基斯。

Arakis.

阿拉基斯。

Arakis.

但那是之前写的，所以并不是这样。

But it was written before that, so it's not.

哦，对。

Oh, yeah.

说得对。

Good point.

所以他们当时并不知道。

So they didn't know that.

不过话说回来……

But anyway...

不过那电影真烂。

Shitty movie though.

说实话，真的挺糟糕的。

Shit honestly kinda sucked, to be honest.

哎呀。

Oh, man.

它……

It it...

那是因为我在智能冰箱上看的。

That's because I washed on my smart fridge.

你一直打断电影去拿冰块，而不是用制冰机。

You kept interrupting the movie to get ice instead of using the dispenser.

而且我全程都在做饭。

And I was cooking the whole time too.

我试着回想电影里有没有特别疯狂的部分，但是……

I'm trying to remember any specific part of the film that was, like, really crazy, but...

大家都去用iPod touch看吧。

Everyone go watch it on your iPod touch.

这真的是一部好电影。

It's a really good movie.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我我认识一些人……

I I had some people...

我跟几个人聊过，他们说，对，哥们儿。

I talked to a couple people that were like, yeah, dude.

它只是为第二部做铺垫，就像你看完每部《哈利·波特》或《指环王》后听到的评价一样。

It was just a setup for the second one, which is like, I know the exact same thing that you'd hear after every Harry Potter movie or Lord of the Rings.

不。

No.

但你怎么就不能把它当作一部独立的电影来享受呢？

But how do you how do you not just enjoy that as a standalone thing?

我……

I...

我觉得它太棒了。

I thought it was amazing.

我觉得它简直不可思议。

I thought it was incredible.

我从来没有觉得无聊过。

I never once was like, I'm bored.

那个世界

The the world

除了那整段时间，其他都挺好。

Besides the whole fucking time.

我觉得最棒的部分是

I think the best part of

电影结束我起身离开的时候。

the movie was when I got up to leave.

知道终于结束了，那感觉真好。

That felt great to know that it was finally over.

不是吧。

No.

不过我得说，在电影院看的时候，在家看的好处就是有暂停键。

I will say, watching in the theater, this is the one benefit you have at home is the pause button.

因为在外面……

Because at out...

到了两小时二十分钟的时候，我的膀胱已经

At two hours twenty minutes, my bladder was

哦，对。

Oh, yeah.

快憋不住了。

To the brim.

然后我……

And I...

我差不多是单膝跪着看完电影的。

I'm like, I was finishing the movie, like, on one knee.

我就想，行吧。

I just, like, alright.

而且每次在电影院，你要是还吃个热狗，那更是……

And, like, every time at theaters, when you're crushing a theater dog too, I'll get...

我会……

I'll...

我通常……

I usually...

我会干掉一大杯健怡可乐。

I'll f up like a large Diet Coke.

所以你会，我会完全放开，嗯。

So you Like, I'll go full, like Mhmm.

那差不多有一升半，对。

That's like a liter and a half Yeah.

或者差不多。

Or whatever.

你懂吧？

You know?

就是一磅阿斯巴甜在飘着。

Just a fucking pound of aspartame floating

在你身体里。

in your system.

哦，我会把它干掉。

Oh, I'll fuck that up.

我太喜欢了。

I love it.

所以，对，我通常……

So, yeah, I usually...

对我来说，通常电影看到四十五分钟左右的时候。

For me, it's like forty five minutes into a movie usually.

你就得撤了。

You gotta bail.

哥们，最好笑的是，当时有两个出口，我一直在盯着其中一个。

Dude, the funniest part was there there were two exits and I was eyeing one.

我就想，我得赶在所有人之前冲到洗手间。

I'm like, I'm a get to the bathroom before everybody.

我跑下楼梯。

I run down the stairs.

我一路跑下去。

I run down it.

那是个紧急出口。

It's like emergency exit.

除非紧急情况，否则不要按。

Do not press unless emergency.

它好像是通向外面的。

It was, like, to the outside.

我不知道为什么，就是想象到你从楼梯上摔下来。

I was like I don't know why just pictured you falling down the stairs.

对。

Yes.

借过。

Excuse me.

借过。

Excuse me.

我得去上厕所。

I have to pee.

摔下去

Fall down

从楼梯上摔下去，然后你尿裤子了。

the stairs and you're peeing yourself.

不。

No.

不。

No.

我没尿裤子。

I'm not peeing myself.

我他妈是头先着地，然后第二次翻滚的时候，肚子直接撞到那个台阶上。

I fucking go head first, and then on the second tumble when I roll over, and then my stomach just hits that stare.

然后我就跟个两升的瓶子似的。

Then I'm just like a fucking two liter

不好意思。

Excuse me.

两升的瓶子

Two liter bottle

可乐在台面上转

of Coke spinning on the

台面上。

counter.

没错。

Exactly.

大家都在踢我。

Everyone's kicking me.

把他弄出去。

Get him out of here.

把他弄出去

Get him out

出去。

of here.

打扰一下。

Excuse me.

打扰一下。

Excuse me.

打扰一下。

Excuse me.

也许现在不是开玩笑说被一群人踩来踩去的好时机。

Maybe now is not a good time to joke about being walked all over by a crowd of people.

那不太好。

That was bad.

那是个烂笑话。

That was a bad joke.

那不算笑话。

That wasn't a joke.

那是个陈述。

It's a statement.

我……

I...

确实是这样。

That is true.

你知道吗？

You know?

而且我不是……

And I'm not...

我觉得，我觉得Live Nation真的给办伍德斯托克99的那个人打了电话，他们问，你是怎么做到的？

I I think I think Live Nation actually called the guy who did Woodstock ninety nine, and they were like, how did you do that?

我们想做得一模一样

We would like to do the exact same

的事情。

thing.

对。

Yep.

百分之百。

100%.

我们有五万人，想把他们置于最大的危险之中。

We have 50,000 people we'd like to put in the most danger possible.

我觉得他们就是这么策划那场活动的。

I think that's how they set up that event.

那玩意儿简直就是，我是说，如果

That shit is just I mean, if

你还没听说过的话，显然我们说的是Astroworld那场悲剧。

you haven't already heard, obviously, we're talking about the astroworld tragedy.

太不可思议了，Woodstock 99和这件事有那么多相似之处。

Incredible how, like, many parallels there are between Woodstock ninety nine and this.

你知道，所有的事情……

You know, everything...

就像，这……

Like, it's

就像……

just like...

就是……

It's just...

我也不知道。

I don't know.

就是有那种负能量。

There's, like, all this negative energy.

显然，就像……

Obviously, it's like...

事后想想，这也说得通。

In hindsight, that makes sense.

但我也说不清。

But I don't know.

就是那些撒旦之类的玩意儿……

All, like, this satanic shit and...

显然，我不是一个信教的人。

Obviously, I'm not a religious person.

对。

No.

就是有那种

It just has

但是，那些关于演唱会的恶魔、撒旦主题，就是让人觉得毛骨悚然。

But, like, all of that demonic, like, satanic themes about the concert Just makes it creepy.

之后就更让人害怕了。

After makes it so fucking creepy.

哦，你看到那些TikTok上那些孩子，就是提前放音乐的那些视频了吗？

Oh, you did you see those TikToks of those kids, like, with the music beforehand?

就是那种奇怪的，像Mike Dean那种电子乐，你知道的，实验性的东西。

It was, like, weird, like, Mike Dean electro, you know, experimental stuff.

没有。

No.

就是那种……

It was this...

没有。

No.

是不是……

Wasn't it...

他们当时在放那种音效，就是好多声音叠在一起的那种，这是他们常用的……

They were, like, playing this sound effect that was a bunch of voices, like, layered on top of each other, and it's like a common thing that they...

恐怖片里用来让人感到不安的手法。

A method that they use in horror movies to create unease in people.

哦。

Oh.

他们就在主舞台一直放这个，放了一整天。

They were just playing that at the main stage, like, all day.

在特拉维斯上场之前。

Before Travis went on.

哦。

Oh.

大概就是为了让人感觉不舒服吧。

Just to make people feel weird, I guess.

哦，也许我就是这个意思。

Oh, maybe that's what I'm saying.

就是，我不太认同这些，我不知道，那些……

Like, I'm not about all of this, I don't know, the...

比如撒旦教之类的，还有人们……

Like, Satanism or whatever and people...

我觉得，那些特别虔诚的人肯定会说，很明显，他就是个魔鬼崇拜者。

I think, like, really religious people are like, obviously, he's like a devil worshipper.

这肯定会发生的。

This is gonna happen.

但我觉得再往上一层，就是，对，如果你只是用这些负面的东西填满这个地方，对。

But I think there's like a layer above that where it's just like, yeah, if you're if you're just filling this area with just negative shit Yeah.

就像某些东西……

Like something...

就像，整个氛围很糟糕，大家彼此也不友善。对。

Like, the energy is just bad and the people are not kind to each other Mhmm.

然后事情就变成那样了。

And then that's what happens.

我不知道。

I don't know.

不。

No.

表面印象而已，但就像其中一个……

Surface level impression, but it's just like one of one of the...

有些粉丝账号，我看到有人在互相针对，故意搞垮别人之类的。

Some of the fan accounts were like, I I was seeing people targeting each other, like taking people down on purpose and stuff like that.

哦，天哪。

Oh, bro.

这种情况会发生是因为……

It's like that happens because...

我不知道。

I don't know.

我想，是因为你助长了那种环境吧。

Because you foster that environment, I guess.

你懂吗？

You know?

我不知道。

I don't know.

我猜我……

I I guess I...

抱歉打断你。

Sorry to interrupt you.

不。

No.

我觉得这跟人们谈论他过去的表现以及他如何鼓励那种氛围是相辅相成的。

You're I I guess it goes hand in hand with everything people are talking about about his past performances and how he just, like, kind of encourages that?

我仍然认为Travis是艺术家，而且我觉得Live Nation同样负有责任。

I still I still think that Travis is the artist, and I would say that there's just as much responsibility on Live Nation.

这就是那个部分——哦，是的。

And that's the part where Oh, yeah.

我对此有点困扰，因为他们似乎只是在试图为他洗白。

I'm a little bit bugged out by this because it seems like they're just trying to astroturf him.

就像，这……

Like, it it...

当我……

When I was...

看起来如果你在网上公开抨击Travis，就会感觉有机器人账号在……

It seems like if you trash Travis, like, publicly online, it just feels like there's, like, bot accounts that, like...

或者，不。

Or or no.

如果你，比如说……

If you, like...

如果你在网上骂Live Nation，好像就会有机器人账号涌过来，然后说，对，就是这样。

If you talk shit about Live Nation, it just seems like there's bot accounts that just, like, swarm to being, like, yeah.

嗯，Travis应该阻止这件事的。

Well, Travis should have stopped it.

Travis应该站出来说点什么。

Travis should have said something.

我觉得，如果你是活动组织者，看到有五万人，就不应该只设两个饮水站。

It's like, I think if you're, like, a, you know, an events organizer and you see 50,000, it should be more than, like, two water stations.

你应该准备更多，比如……

You should probably have more than, like

哦，什么？

Oh, what?

百分之百。

A 100%.

不是...

There's not...

这根本不是个简单的问题。

This is not a simple issue at all.

对。

No.

休斯顿警局总共才1500人。

The the Houston the Houston PD staff, it was, 1,500 people total.

就像...

It's like...

五万人的活动，不应该至少翻三倍、翻四倍吗？

Shouldn't it be, like, triple that, quadruple that for, like, 50,000 people?

太离谱了。

That's crazy.

这从很多方面来说都是一团糟。

This is a fuck up in many, many ways.

但是话说回来，我没法体会在五万人面前站在舞台上的感觉，但你得想象一下，他至少看到了那些……

But also, I don't know what it feels like to be on a stage in front of 50,000 people, but you have to imagine, like, he at least saw the...

我，我也不清楚。

I I don't know.

这太……

It's so...

就像，人们……

Like, people...

有些人就说，对。

Some people were like, yeah.

他作弊了。

He's cheated.

什么意思？

What do mean?

他的唯一任务就是继续表演，而另一半人就说，但他看到了警笛。

It's his only job to keep performing, and the other half of the people were like, but he sees the sirens.

比如，很多其他人在那个时候都会停下演出，然后说，帮帮这个人。

Like, many other people have stopped the show at that point and been like, help this person.

我觉得，作为一个人，这很容易，你知道，我不是说对或错，但我是说作为一个人，我觉得很容易被身后几百万美元的制作所吸引，然后你不得不，好吧。

I I think I think it'd be easy to, you know, as a human, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I'm saying as a human, I think it'd be easy to get caught up in the fact that you have, like, millions of dollars in production standing behind you, and you're compelled to, like, alright.

他们得处理那个，因为我得做这个，因为我们马上要放价值50万美元的烟花，而且我得踩准我的点位。

They gotta handle that because I gotta do this because we're about to launch, like, 500 k worth of fireworks, and, like, I need to hit my marks.

我能理解，作为一个人，你怎么会完全……

Like, I could see as a person how you could get Totally.

被那个冲昏头脑。

Carried away with that.

是的。

Yes.

但这就是我说的。

But that's what I'm saying.

对，他身边的人欠他的，还有所有那些乱七八糟的……

Like, yeah, the the people around him owed it to him and all all the fuck...

比他还多，真是的，那些观众。

More than him, like, fucking visitors.

这对我来说太不可思议了……

That is so wild to me that...

他们处理事情的方式就是这样。

Just how they approach everything.

我几年前去看Rage Against the Machine的时候，哥们，前面三个乐队表演的时候，就有警察在人群周围布置好了，还带着那种……

When I went to see Rage Against the Machine however many years ago, dude, three acts before, like, there were sheriffs, like, staged all around the crowd with, like, fucking...

Rage他们唱的那些东西，他们准备了橡皮子弹枪、催泪瓦斯枪。

Like, all the shit that Rage talks about is, they had, like, rubber bullet guns, tear gas guns.

他们穿着全套防暴装备。

They were in, like, full riot gear.

他们准备好了，就等着事情真的闹大。

Like, they were prepared for the shit to, like, really go off.

我也不知道。

And I don't know.

你会觉得总会有人站出来说，嘿。

You would just think that someone would be like, hey.

他的粉丝有点疯狂，所以我们得多做点准备。

His fans are kinda crazy, so we need to do a little bit more.

也许我错了，但我总觉得高层有人。

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I kinda feel like there's someone at the top.

也许在沟通的某个环节，有人会说，喂，兄弟，我们需要更多人。

Maybe somewhere in communication there was like, yo, dude, we need more personnel.

然后那人就说，是啊，那会影响到我的奖金。

And the dude's like, yeah, that's gonna eat into my bonus.

所以……

So...

我

I

觉得这说得通。

think that makes sense.

我不得不……

I'm gonna have to...

只能想办法让它运转起来。

Just gonna have to make it work.

没关系。

It's fine.

没关系。

It's fine.

对。

Yep.

在很多情况下，可能都有偷工减料的情况，是的。

There was probably some corner cutting in a lot of instances Yeah.

在组织这件事上。

In the organization of this.

这真是个悲剧，兄弟。

It's a fucking tragedy, man.

太惨了。

Super.

八个人。

Eight people.

你知道，上面有些变态的人会觉得，就八个而已。

You know some sick person up there is like, it's just eight.

我是说，没人应该死在演唱会上。

I mean, it's just nobody should die at a concert.

这真的太可怕了。

It's fucking horrible.

据说上周有个ABBA的演唱会，也有两个人死了。

Supposedly, there's an ABBA concert last week and two people died at that.

在ABBA的演唱会上？

At an ABBA show?

但他们可是铁杆粉丝。

But they're hardcore.

我开玩笑的。

I'm kidding.

《跳舞皇后》，兄弟。

Dancing Queen, bro.

你听过那首歌吗？

You ever heard that shit?

等等。

Hold up.

这是什么？

What is this?

那首歌太炸了。

That goes insane.

瑞典一场ABBA致敬演唱会上，两人死亡，一人受伤，都是因为摔倒。

Two dead, one injured after a fall at ABBA tribute concert in Sweden.

致敬演唱会？

Tribute concert?

所以也许他们是表演的一部分？

So maybe they were part of the act?

警方称，一名八十多岁……

A man who police say was in his high 80...

或者说他八十多岁，从七层楼摔下来死了？

Or his eighties fell seven stories and died?

谁？

Who?

哦。

Oh.

你看那个……

See that...

我落在……对。

I landing onto Yeah.

哇。

Woah.

我提这个只是想说明，有大量证据表明，你不能指望五万人自己就能组织好。

I only bring this up to say, like, there's ample evidence that you can't you can't expect 50,000 people to just sort of self organize.

我觉得那想法简直蠢透了。

That shit is so stupid to me.

我们打算让五万个该死的青少年进来，然后他们都会乖乖站在原地？

We're gonna let 50,000 fucking teenagers in here, yeah, they're all gonna stand in place.

对，没错。

And Yep.

他们肯定会很守规矩。

They're gonna be cool.

天哪，我的天。

Dude, oh my god.

听别人讲在人群里的经历，再看那些视频，真是吓人。

Hearing people talk about what it was like in the crowd and also watching those videos Horrifying.

老天爷。

God.

太吓人了。

Horrifying.

那简直就是地狱，真的。

That is straight from hell, seriously.

就像受刑一样。

Like torture.

对。

Yep.

简直不敢想象，那么害怕，还被困住，因为什么都做不了。

Can't even imagine being that scared and just being trapped because you can't do shit.

对。

Yep.

五万人的力量都在挤压你。

You have the power of 50,000 people squishing you.

天哪，这……

Dog, it it...

而且这事儿特别残酷，因为所有在场亲眼目睹那些惨状的人，肯定都得去看心理医生。

It's also brutal in that, like, everyone who was there and saw the shit, they definitely need to go to some therapy.

你懂吧？

You know?

那些孩子肯定会留下心理阴影的。

Like, kids are gonna have PTSD from that.

就是

Like

肯定会有

There's gonna be a

这一代人里会有很大一部分人，以后再也不去音乐节了。

whole, like, patch of, like, of this generation that's like, I'm never going to a festival again.

去他妈的。

Fuck that.

就是，就是，就是……

It it it it just...

后果真的太严重了，我简直无法理解这些人……

Like, the repercussions are so wild, and it it just blows my mind that these people who...

他们之前明明掌握了所有数据。

They had all the data going into it.

怎么就没人说一句，哦，好吧。

Like, how does no one fucking go, oh, alright.

也许我们该放弃几百万，好好把这事儿做对。

Maybe we should give up a few million and just, like, do this right.

对。

Yep.

因为你知道去音乐节是什么情况。

Because you know how it is when you go to a festival.

在那儿工作的人，根本不在乎。

Like, the people that work there, they don't give a fuck.

对。

Yep.

就连我去奥斯汀比赛的时候，那个……

Even when I went to the Austin race, the...

比如我们离开停车场的时候，他们只有四五个人，我知道他们给的工资低得可怜，却要管理成千上万辆车从一条路上出去。

Like, when we were all leaving the parking lot, they had, like, four or five guys that I know they're paying them dog shit to, like, manage literally, like, thousands of cars exiting on one fucking road.

然后有些人就……

And then some of them just...

他们就是有点……

They're just kinda like...

就像，他们干脆放弃了。

Like, they just kinda gave up.

简直就像一支庞大的车流大军。

It's just like this fucking army of cars.

我当时就想，那现在怎么办？

I was like, well, now what?

所以我也搞不懂，兄弟。

So I don't know, bro.

所以你的意思是，解决办法就是更多人，还有更多……

So you're saying the answer is more people and more...

还有，比如橡皮子弹，对。

And, like, rubber bullets and Yeah.

枪。

Guns.

不。

No.

不。

No.

绝对，咱们别走那条路。

Definitely, let's not go that route.

催泪瓦斯，而且每场演唱会都应该有。

Gas, and we should have that at every single concert.

我……

I...

那场演唱会真是疯了，因为人们都在爬那个……

Well, that concert was crazy because people were, like, climbing the...

那些灯架什么的。

All the, like, light fixtures.

那玩意儿，老兄。

That shit, dude.

规模小得多，但地点是在圣贝纳迪诺的NOS中心。

So much smaller scale, but it was at the NOS Center in San Bernardino.

而且我觉得……

And I I think...

我确定我以前讲过这个故事。

I'm pretty sure I've told this story before.

基本上，就在Rage要上台的时候，我身边的几个人……

Basically, right as rage was, like, getting to go on stage, a couple of people I was with...

所以我的很多朋友都在下面的坑里。

So a bunch of my friends were down in the pit.

我看着那个坑，看到它被挤得越来越紧。

I was looking at the pit, and I was seeing it, like, sandwiched more and more.

而且那是NOS中心的设计。

And it was in the design of the NOS centers.

有点像万神殿，就是一个在地下的混凝土区域，人们要下楼梯进去。

It's kinda like a pantheon, so it's like a concrete area that's, like, in the ground that people, like, go downstairs into.

所以就像那种角斗场一样。

So it's like it's like some Colosseum shit.

好的。

Okay.

我看着越来越多的人往里面走。

And I'm watching more and more people, like, go in there.

我就觉得，这看起来不太妙。

I'm like, that just doesn't seem like it's gonna be a good idea.

然后和我一起的那两个人，他们...

And so the two guys I was with, they were

不，不行。

like, no.

我们应该下去。

We should go down.

我们应该下去。

We should go down.

然后随着越来越多的人开始下去，他们就说，算了，别去了。

And then as more people started going, they're like, nah.

还是待在上面比较好。

Like, up here is probably a good idea.

然后，防暴警察就开始在我们旁边的那个平台上站成一排。

And then, like, the, like, the the riot police kinda, like, start standing up on this platform next to us.

那是我第一次见到那种场面。

That's the first time I've seen that.

我记得我当时大概18岁。

I think I was, like, 18.

我当时就想，什么情况？

And I'm like, what?

这里怎么会有防暴警察？

Why'd there be riot police here?

太疯狂了。

That's crazy.

我们旁边那两个家伙光着膀子，喝得烂醉，就在那儿猛灌啤酒。

And these two guys next to us were shirtless, drunk as fuck, just like pounding beer.

他们说，哥们，等Rage一上台，我们就要大闹一场。

They're like, when rage gets out there, dude, we're gonna fuck shit up.

我当时就，哦。

I'm like, oh.

这真的能说明当时有多疯狂、多激烈，因为每天都有演出，全场都是人撞人的那种大乱斗。

I mean, that that really goes to show how crazy this was and how intense it was because, I mean, every day there's shows where there's a full on mosh pit with people running head first into each other.

但你从来没听说过有人出事。对。

And you don't hear about people dying No.

像在这里那样大规模地。

En masse like they did here.

不。

No.

你懂我的意思吗？

You know what I mean?

不。

No.

确实是真的。

It's it's true.

这正好说明当时有多疯狂，真的五万人开始挤在一起，不管发生了什么。

Just goes to show how fucking crazy it was that truly 50,000 people started just mushing together whatever happened.

就像

Like

什么？

What?

是涌过来的吗？

Surging?

我的意思是，那天Rage上台的时候，那个……

I mean, when Rage got on that day, the...

我旁边有个围栏，结果它被挤坏了。

There's, like, a barrier next to me, and it broke.

然后就像一股人流一样，大家拼命往里挤。

And it was just like this stream of people just, like, going into it.

我记得我当时看着那个场面，心里想，算了算了。

And I remember looking at that going like, yeah, nah.

然后我三首歌没听完就走了，因为场面实在太疯狂了。

And then I I left three songs in because it just got so crazy.

我们后面的山坡上全是火。

The hill behind us was, like, covered in fire.

我当时就想，我得赶紧离开这儿。

Like, I'm getting the fuck out of here.

天哪。

Jesus.

然后我就开车走了，结果我几个朋友打电话给我。

And so I'm, like, driving away, and some of my friends, like, call me.

我一点都没夸张。

I'm not exaggerating.

大概四五个小时之后吧，他们还在那儿……

I think, like, four or five hours later, and they're like...

我大概半夜走的，结果都凌晨四五点了。

I left at, like, midnight, and it's, like, four or five in the morning.

他们又是发短信又是打电话，说：哥们，我们还在停车场呢。

They're texting and calling me being like, dude, we're still in the parking lot.

根本出不去。

We can't get out.

我当时就想，这也太夸张了。

And I'm like, that's wild.

然后他们跟我讲那个坑的事，说……

And then they're telling me about the pit and how...

我提这个是因为那场演出，我朋友说，哥们儿，那是我最后一次进那个坑了。

I bring this up to say because at that show, my friends were like, dude, that's the last pit I'm going into.

一开始还挺好玩的，后来就彻底疯了。

Like, it started out kinda fun, and then it just got nuts.

然后还有人从那些架子上往人群里跳。

And then people were jumping off the fixtures, like, into the crowd.

然后我朋友就说，对。

And, like, my buddy was like, yeah.

有那么一刻，我真的觉得自己可能出不来了。

There was a point where I just kinda felt like I didn't know if I was getting out of this.

所以我就想，那场观众少多了，我完全能理解那种处境下的每个人。

And so I think about that with how much smaller that audience was, and I just felt fully empathize with everyone in that scenario.

就像你说的，你身处五万人的海洋里。

Like you're saying, like, you're in a sea of 50,000 people.

想象一下，坐在第七排。

Imagine being, Row 7.

你会想，我要去前面看Travis和Drake，

You're like, I wanna go to the front to see Travis and Drake,

然后你回头一看，发现，

and then you just look behind you and it's like,

就这？

that's it?

现在你只能硬着头皮撑过去了。

Now you just gotta survive that shit.

挺吓人的。

Scary.

所以，你知道，我……

So, you know, I...

这不禁让人想问，会不会有什么改变呢？

It just makes you wonder, will anything change?

我是说，是的。

I mean, yeah.

可能吧。

Probably.

你当然希望如此。

You would hope.

对吧？

Right?

对，没错。

Like Yeah.

或者也许不会。

Or maybe not.

我不知道。

I don't know.

我是说，我只是希望看到更好的组织，还有人群管控之类的。

I mean, I would like to just see better organization, I guess, and crowd control and stuff.

但是……

But...

我不是说，比如……

And I'm not saying, like...

我不知道，是不是每场演唱会都得搞得像幸福和彩虹那样。不是的。

I don't know, every concert needs to be, like, happiness and rainbows No.

但是……

But...

还有那些乱七八糟的。

And shit.

比如说，你当然还是可以在演唱会上搞一些黑暗的主题。

Like, you obviously can still have, like, dark themes to your concerts.

但是，我觉得，如果你在演出前八个小时就故意播放让人不舒服的声音。

But, I mean, I I think when you're, like, purposely playing sounds that make people uneasy, like, eight hours before the show.

那就像是在为不好的事情做铺垫。

Like, you're setting up for something bad.

你知道吗？

You know?

就是别学弗雷德·德斯特那一套。

Just don't do the Fred Durst.

没错。

Exactly.

别，别上台就……

Don't And don't go on stage and

然后说，

be like,

咱们他妈的互相干起来吧。

let's fucking kill each other.

咱们把东西砸了吧。

Let's break stuff.

我是说，兄弟，我觉得五万人的场子，你……

I mean, dog, the thing I think is with 50,000 people, you...

我觉得应该有一定的分隔。

I think there should be some degree of separation.

比如，你应该划分出一些区域。

Like, you should be creating, like, sections.

你懂我的意思吗？

You know what I mean?

就像……

Like...

就像他们为前台之类的地方开辟通道一样，那种东西在这么多人聚集的时候也应该有。

And and the same way they carve out walkways for, like, front of house and stuff, that shit should be in a crowd en masse like that.

就像军队组织那样，划分成一块块的方阵，你得进入那些方阵。

Like, it should be like some military organized, like, square patches that you have to get into.

这样一来，也许人们就不会冲破围栏了。

And that way, like, I don't know, maybe people break down the barricades.

谁知道呢？

Who knows?

但大家都应该待在家里，在元宇宙里看这些演唱会。

But everyone should just stay at home and and watch these concerts in the metaverse.

这就是……

That's what...

在《堡垒之夜》里。

In Fortnite.

在《堡垒之夜》里。

In Fortnite.

那他的道歉是什么样的？

So what was his apology like?

我没看到。

I didn't see it.

很差吗？

Is it bad?

很差。

It's bad.

你可以稍微玩一下。

You can play a little bit.

我只想为昨晚失去的人们祈祷。

I just want I just wanna send out prayers to the to the ones that was lost last night.

我们现在正在努力确认他们的家人，以便在这个艰难时刻帮助他们。

We're actually working right now to identify the families so we can help assist them through this tough time.

你知道，我的粉丝对我来说真的非常重要，我一直想给他们留下积极的体验。

You know, my fans my fans, like, my fans really mean the world to me, and I always just really wanna leave them with a positive experience.

每当我能处理任何事情的时候，

And anytime I can make out, you know, anything that's going on

我觉得就是这样。

I mean, it's just kinda like that.

我不知道，兄弟。

I I don't know, man.

什么？

What?

我讨厌他给那个加了滤镜。

I hate the fact that he put a filter on it.

所以……

So...

就是，像……

So, like

连那个黑白的也是。

Even even the black and white one.

他还得划两下才能找到那个。

He had to swipe over twice to, like, get to that.

就像……

It's like...

所以就像……

So like...

很明显，你……

Clearly, you're...

真是讨厌。

Hate that.

我……

I...

所以，就像……

So like, that's where...

有人提到，哥们，我在想是不是因为他整晚没睡，看起来状态很差。

Someone someone brought up there, dude, I wonder if it was because, like, he was just, like, up all night and he looked like shit.

所以他就像……

So he, like...

谁在乎呢？

Who gives a fuck?

我不知道，我真的不知道。

I don't I don't know.

反而想着自己看起来状态很差。

Thinking about I look like shit instead

对。

of Yeah.

那些孩子就这么死了，真他妈惨。

Fucking kids just died.

我讨厌这样，因为我觉得……

I I hate this because I'm like...

我真的觉得他压力山大，因为那件事真的很难消化。

I I genuinely think he stressed the fuck out because I think that's a crazy thing to process.

嘿，哥们。

Hey, dude.

你的演出上刚死了八个人。

Like, eight people just died at your show.

哦，对。

Oh, yeah.

百分之百。

100%.

你知道吗？

You know?

为什么没人提醒这家伙，说别……

Why is no one looking out for this dude being like, don't get...

就，坐下来。

Just, like, sit down.

想想你接下来要说什么。

Like, think about what you're gonna say next.

别他妈上Instagram搞这种事。

Like, don't fucking get on Instagram and do this.

你懂我

You know what

说的意思吗？

I'm saying?

就是……

It just...

这整件事就是一团糟。

It's just bad all around.

管理太差了。

The bad management.

他们不应该……

They they shouldn't be...

八个人刚死，他们就不该让他随便发个一分半钟的道歉。

They shouldn't let him run wild for a minute and a half apology after eight people just died.

但是，我也不太确定。

But I I don't know.

同时，我总觉得，如果他真的有心，那样道歉会更真诚一些。

At the same time, it kinda feels like I would I would feel like that's more sincere if he actually meant it.

立刻，这感觉就像那种糟糕的YouTube道歉视频，给我的印象就是这样。

Right away, it has the same vibes as, a bad YouTube apology in my in my impression.

我确实看到一个笑话，不得不承认真的很好笑。

I I did see one joke that I have to admit was really funny.

是什么笑话？

What was it?

他当时在努力从额头挤出眼泪来。

He was trying to squeeze the tears out of his forehead.

天哪。

Damn.

看起来确实有点像那样。

It does kinda seem like that.

天哪。

Damn.

所以，你知道，如果你去音乐节，注意安全，兄弟。

So, you know, if you go to a festival, be safe, man.

我不……

I don't...

我……

I...