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投资者的关注点转向利率和人工智能

Investors’ Focus Shifts to Rates and AI

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在欧洲和亚洲多地会晤后,我们的全球跨资产策略研究主管邓淑仪探讨了投资者最关注的两大主题:美国货币政策的不确定性,以及尽管人工智能长期潜力巨大,但市场对其日益谨慎的态度。 邓淑仪:欢迎收听《市场观点》。我是摩根士丹利全球跨资产策略研究主管邓淑仪。 今天,我将与大家分享我近期在欧洲和亚洲与投资者会面后的总结,重点讨论人工智能和美联储的争议焦点。 纽约时间7月2日星期四上午10点。 过去两周,我走访了欧洲和亚洲,与投资者交流摩根士丹利的最新观点。我所到的每个会场,几乎都围绕两大主题展开讨论。 第一个是美联储和美国的货币政策路径。许多投资者将主席凯文·沃什在六月FOMC会议——他上任后的首次会议——解读为明确的鹰派立场。但我在会晤中发现,市场投资者指出,美联储的经济预测摘要(简称SEP,详细列出了政策制定者对GDP增长、通胀和联邦基金利率等宏观指标的预测)增加了2026年的加息预期,并推迟了降息时间,暗示政策将更加紧缩。 如今,摩根士丹利的经济学家认为,应谨慎解读6月FOMC会议点阵图所暗示的加息路径。这些预测似乎基于近期高通胀的假设,可能未充分反映全面重新开放带来的通缩效应。我们实际上预期核心通胀路径将更低,原因在于旅游相关通胀的逆转和关税回吐的共同作用,这使我们预测美联储将在2026年前保持利率不变。 在与各地区投资者的会面中,第二个反复出现的主题毫不意外地是人工智能。尽管每次会议中投资者都坚定相信人工智能资本支出周期的长期趋势,但也存在一些担忧——尤其是因为人工智能如今在宏观层面正演变为通胀议题,在微观层面也成为融资议题。 “芯片通胀”(Chipflation)成为一个新词,市场仍在争论它是否会成为拖累人工智能资本支出周期的因素之一。在我们的经济学家和行业分析师看来,情况更为复杂。尽管过去一年内存价格已上涨六倍,但我们认为芯片通胀更可能促使人工智能基础设施重新定价和配给,而非中断整个周期。 AI需求正同时在三个层面扩张:每颗芯片需要更多内存、每个系统需要更多芯片、每个集群需要更多系统,而超大规模厂商仍优先获得资源分配。当前的主要风险在于资本支出效率。内存在AI系统成本中的占比正在上升,但我们认为这一周期依然稳固。 关于AI融资需求,与投资者的争论焦点在于其增长还能加速多少?值得注意的是,今年迄今大部分企业债券发行都与数据中心建设融资相关。 超大规模厂商正通过非美元发行扩大投资者基础。今年5月,它们合计发行了约250亿美元以欧元、瑞士法郎和日元计价的债务。 我们的信用策略团队预测,2026年全球与AI相关的债券发行规模将接近6000亿美元;仅美国投资级企业债券一项,我们预计净发行量将达到1万亿美元,这也是我们认为该资产类别今年可能表现逊色的原因。结合我们的股票团队预测,超大规模厂商的现金资本支出将在2027年突破1万亿美元,我们预计发行规模将进一步加速。 综合来看,全球投资者都在应对美联储和人工智能资本支出所带来的相同不确定性,这些议题很可能继续成为未来的关键讨论点。但摩根士丹利的基本假设是,通胀下降将促使美联储维持利率不变,而强劲的人工智能资本支出周期依然持续,因此我们建议投资者仍应保持对风险资产的积极态度。 感谢收听。欢迎通过留下评论告诉我们您的看法。如果您喜欢本播客,请今天与朋友或同事分享《市场观点》。

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欢迎收听《市场观点》。

Welcome to thoughts on the market.

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我是摩根士丹利全球跨资产策略研究主管唐塞拉。

I'm Serena Tang, global head of cross asset strategy research at Morgan Stanley.

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今天,我将和大家分享我最近在欧洲和亚洲与投资者会面的总结,重点聊聊人工智能和美联储的最新讨论。

And today, I'm bringing you a debrief from my investor meetings across Europe and Asia and the key debates around AI and the Fed.

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现在是纽约时间7月2日,星期四上午10点。

It's Thursday, July 2 at 10AM in New York.

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过去两周,我一直在欧洲和亚洲各地走访,与投资者交流摩根士丹利的最新观点。

The last two weeks, I have been traveling in Europe and Asia to meet with investors to discuss Morgan Stanley's latest views.

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我走到的每一个会场,几乎都围绕着两个话题展开。

Two themes dominated nearly every room I walked into.

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第一个是美联储以及美国的货币政策走向。

The first is the Federal Reserve and monetary policy path in The US.

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许多投资者把凯文·沃什主席在六月FOMC会议上的首次表态,解读为明确的鹰派立场。

Many investors had interpreted Chair Kevin Warsh's June FOMC meeting, his first at the helm, as unambiguously hawkish.

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我所接触的投资者指出,美联储的经济预测摘要(简称SEP),也就是对GDP增长、通胀和联邦基金利率等宏观指标的预测,显示2026年可能还会加息,并推迟降息,意味着政策将保持更紧的状态。

What market investors at my meetings pointed out is that Fed's Summary of Economic Projections, commonly shortened to SEP, which details policymakers' forecasts for macro metrics like GDP growth, inflation and the federal funds rate at a hike in 2026 and pushed out rate cuts, implying more restrictive policy.

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不过,摩根士丹利的经济学家认为,六月FOMC会议SEP中暗示的加息,需要谨慎解读。

Now Morgan Stanley's economists think that hikes implied by SEP at the June FOMC meeting should be interpreted with caution.

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这些预测基于近期通胀居高不下的前提,可能没充分考虑到经济全面重启后通胀自然回落的趋势。

The projections appeared conditioned on elevated near term inflation and may not capture the disinflation from a straight reopening.

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我们预计核心通胀会走低,因为旅游相关通胀回落加上关税带来的价格回调共同作用,所以我们认为美联储到2026年都会维持利率不变。

We actually anticipate a lower path for core inflation, given a combination of a reversal in travel related inflation and tariff payback, which lead to our call that the Fed remains on hold through 2026.

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另一个在各地投资者会议中反复出现的主题,不出意外,就是人工智能。

The second recurring theme in meetings with investors across regions is unsurprisingly AI.

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虽然每次会议投资者都坚定看好AI资本开支的持续周期,但也有人感到不安,因为AI现在不仅在宏观层面成了通胀因素,在微观层面也成了融资问题。

While in every single meetings, investors believe firmly in the cycle of story of ongoing AI CapEx cycle, there was some unease, especially since AI is now also becoming an inflation story on the macro side and a funding story on the micro side.

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‘芯片通胀’成了新词,市场还在争论它是否会成为拖累AI资本开支周期的因素之一。

Chipflation is a new word in town with markets still debating whether it can be one of the things that derail the AI CapEx cycle.

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在我们的经济学家和行业分析师看来,情况要复杂得多。

In our economist and sector analyst views, it's more nuanced.

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虽然过去一年内存价格涨了六倍,但我们认为芯片涨价更可能带来AI基础设施的重新定价和配给,而不是打断整个周期。

While memory prices is up six fold over the past year, we think Chipflation is more likely to reprice and ration AI infrastructure than derail the cycle.

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AI的需求正在三个层面同时扩张。

AI demand is scaling across three layers at once.

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每块芯片需要更多内存,每个系统需要更多芯片,每个集群需要更多系统,而超大规模云服务商始终优先获得供应。

More memory per chip, more chips per system, and more systems per cluster, while hyperscalers remain first in the allocation queue.

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现在,关键风险在于资本支出的效率。

Now, the key risk is CapEx efficiency.

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内存在AI系统总成本中的占比正在上升。

Memory is becoming a larger share of the AI system cost.

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但我们认为这个周期依然稳固。

But the cycle we think remains intact.

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至于AI的资金需求,投资者一直在讨论它还能加速到什么程度。

As for AI funding needs, the debate with investors has been how much more can it accelerate.

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值得注意的是,今年至今企业发行的债券中,大部分都是用于数据中心建设的融资。

It's worth noting that the majority of corporate bond issuance quarter to date has been related to funding construction of data centers.

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大型云服务商一直在通过非美元债券来扩大投资者基础。

Hyperscalers have been broadening their investor base through non dollar issuances.

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今年五月,它们合计发行了约250亿美元的欧元、瑞士法郎和日元债务。

They have collectively issued around 25,000,000,000 of debt in other currencies like euro, Swiss franc, and the JPY in May.

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我们的信贷策略团队预测,2026年全球与AI相关的债券发行量将再增加近6000亿美元。

Our credit strategy colleagues forecast nearly another 600,000,000,000 of AI related global issuance in 2026.

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这意味着对美国来说。

Meaning for U.

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对美国而言。

S.

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仅美国投资级企业债一项,我们预计今年净发行量将达到1万亿美元,这也是我们看淡这一资产类别今年表现的原因。

IG corporate bonds alone, we expect 1,000,000,000,000 of net issuance, a reason for our view that the asset class can underperform this year.

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结合我们股票团队的估算,到2027年,大型云服务商的现金资本支出将突破1万亿美元,我们预计发债速度还会加快。

With our equity colleagues estimating hyperscalers cash CapEx to surpass 1,000,000,000,000 in 2027, we expect issuance to accelerate.

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总的来说,全球投资者都在应对美联储政策和AI资本支出带来的相同不确定性,这些议题在未来仍将是核心讨论焦点。

Bringing it all together, investors globally are all grappling with the same uncertainties around the Fed and AI CapEx, which will likely continue to be key debates to come.

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但摩根士丹利的基准预测认为,通胀下行将促使美联储维持利率不变,同时AI资本开支周期依然强劲,因此我们建议投资者继续对风险资产保持积极态度。

But Morgan Stanley's base case view of lower inflation driving the Fed to stay on hold and a strong AI CapEx cycle that remains intact means we recommend investors should still stay constructive on risk assets.

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Thanks for listening.

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Let us know what you think by leaving a review.

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And if you enjoyed the podcast, please share thoughts on the market with a friend or colleague today.

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It is not an offer or solicitation nor is it tax or legal advice.

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It does not consider your financial circumstances and objectives and may not be suitable for you.

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