如何购买飞钓涉水裤和靴子 | 第184集

涉水装备的世界可不是那么容易搞懂的。

The world of wading gear isn't exactly easy to navigate.

从各种涉水裤的选择，到市面上数不清的靴子，再到它们之间离谱的价格差异，你很难知道自己买的东西是否真的能达到你的要求。

Between all the waiter options, the billion pairs of boots on the market, and the insane price differences between all of them, it's tough to know if you're actually gonna get something that performs the way you need it to.

我飞钓已经二十多年了，过去十年一直在为飞钓杂志评测装备，对于这个难题，我有一些自己的看法。

Now, I've been fly fishing for over twenty years and I've spent the last decade reviewing gear for fly fishing magazines and here's my 2¢ on this dilemma.

选购涉水装备时，根据你希望它做什么来选，远比只看价格重要得多。

It is way more important to shop for your wading gear based on what you want that gear to do than it is to just base it all on price.

今天在Untangled节目里，我会详细解释这个理念。

And today on Untangled, I'm gonna explain that concept in more detail.

我会推荐一些我们VFC喜欢并信赖的装备，但最重要的是，我会教你如何挑选适合你的装备。

I'll give you some recommendations of the gear that we love and trust here at VFC, But most importantly, I'm gonna give you the tools you need to pick the gear that is going to work for you.

这里是Untangled，为每个人准备的飞钓节目，由Ventures FlyCo呈现。

This is untangled, fly fishing for everyone, presented by Ventures FlyCo.

大家好。

Hey, everybody.

欢迎来到节目。

Welcome to it.

这里是Untangled，我是主持人Spencer Durant。

This is untangled, and I am your host, Spencer Durant.

如果你今天在看视频播客，恭喜你，不仅仅是因为你能看到我英俊的脸。

If you are watching the video podcast today, congratulations and not just because you get to see my beautiful face.

不是。

No.

你将抢先看到全新的工作室。

You're getting a sneak peek of the brand new studio.

过去一个月，我们在VFC这里一直很忙。

We have been pretty busy here at VFC for the last month.

我们一直在搬仓库，建这个新工作室。

We've been moving warehouses and building this new studio.

今天本来是我们揭幕它的日子，我对此非常兴奋。

And today was supposed to be the day that we got to unveil it, and I was really excited about that.

不过大家也看到了，我身后的墙上没什么装饰。

But as you can tell if you're watching, there is not a whole lot of decoration on the walls behind me.

显得有点空荡荡的。

It's a little barren.

这可不是我们故意这么弄的。

And we didn't do that on purpose.

也不是为了让我这张丑脸成为节目的焦点。

It's not just because we wanted to make my ugly mug the center of the video show.

不是。

No.

我们本来订好了所有漂亮的装饰品，都准备好运过来了，结果 FedEx 那帮人真是厉害，明明知道该送到哪儿却送错了，把东西全弄丢了。

We we had all this beautiful decor ordered, ready to get here, and then FedEx in their infinite ability to not get things where it needs to go, messed up the delivery, lost all of it.

所以这周看着有点空荡荡的，不过下周就会漂亮多了。

So a little barren this week, but next week, it's gonna look beautiful.

到时候所有东西都会到位，准备就绪。

Everything will be in here and ready to go.

所以下周一定要来看我们的节目，这样我们就能展示一下，你们也能看到我们最近在忙什么。

So definitely tune in for next week's show so we can show it off, and you guys can see what we've been up to.

如果你们好奇还有什么，我们会做一个小仓库参观和工作室参观，然后我们很快会有一些新产品推出。

And if you're curious to see what else, we we're gonna do a little warehouse tour and a studio tour, and then we do have some new products coming out soon.

我们会分享很多关于那方面的幕后内容。

We'll be sharing a lot of behind the scenes stuff about that.

如果你们想看那些内容，有兴趣加入我们，你们可以去加入我们的学校群，它就像Facebook，但没那么糟糕，而且完全免费。

If you wanna see that stuff, you're interested in joining us for that, you want to go join our school group, which it's like Facebook, but it doesn't suck, and it's completely free.

在节目说明里有一个加入链接，但我们会继续在学校群里分享所有这些内容。

There's a link to join that down in the show notes, but we will share all of that stuff in the school group as we keep plugging along.

那里有很多有趣的东西，但那不是我们今天要讨论的。

So fun stuff there, but that's not what we're here to talk about today.

我们今天要讨论的是涉水装备。

We're here to talk about wading gear.

我在这里先简单说一下，然后随着节目的进行，我们会继续深入剖析，挖掘细节。

And I'm just gonna give you the short of it right here, and then we're gonna continue to dissect it and and dig into the meat as the show progresses.

首先我想说的是，再次强调，这只是个概要。

And first thing I wanna say, again, this is this is the the the short of it.

没有一套绝对正确、完美或最好的防水裤和靴子适合所有人。

There is no right or perfect or best set of waders and boots for everybody.

我不会坐在这里告诉你们，嘿，这就是我用的，所以它肯定适合你，不管你在落基山脉钓鱼生活，还是在无漂区，还是在阿巴拉契亚山脉。

I'm not gonna sit here and tell you guys, well, hey, this is what I use, so it's gonna be perfect for you whether you fish and live in the Rockies or you're in the Driftless or you're in the Appalachians.

不是那样的，这三个地方情况不同，环境也不同。

It's just not those are three different different locations, different circumstances.

它们对装备的要求都不一样。

They all demand different things.

而且我们钓鱼的方式也不会都一样。

And then we're not all gonna be fishing the same way either.

明白吗？

K?

所以你的钓鱼方式、钓鱼地点，这些因素比单纯的推荐更能决定你应该买什么样的涉水装备。

So the way that you fish, where you're fishing, all that factors into what wading gear you should buy way more than just recommendations.

现在，那些和你钓鱼方式相似的人给出的推荐会很有帮助，我确实建议你去找找这类推荐。

Now recommendations from people who fish similarly to you can be very helpful, and I do recommend looking for those kind of recommendations.

之后在节目里我也会给出我自己的推荐，比如，我是怎么做的，适合什么样的人。

And I'll make my own recommendations later on in the show based on, you know, here's what I do, here's the kind of people it would work for.

但真正买靴子和涉水裤时，你需要关注的是它们合不合身，以及设计用途是什么。

But really what you need to be focused on when you're buying boots and waders is you need to focus on how they fit you and what they were designed to do.

这两点应该放在你考虑的首位，因为几乎在每个价位上，你都能找到合身且符合你需求的产品。

Those should be at the absolute top of your list because you can find stuff that's gonna fit you well and that's designed for what you're trying to do at almost every price point.

特别便宜的东西可能不太好找，但市场上有很多价格实惠的涉水裤选择，几乎任何价位都有适合你的。

The really bargain stuff, it might be kinda hard to find, but there's a lot of affordable waiter options on the market, and there's gonna be stuff that fits what you need at just about any price point.

我不是让你完全不管价格，但我觉得现在不用太担心价格。

I'm not trying to tell you to throw price completely out the window, but I I wouldn't worry so much about price right now.

我会更注重合身度和设计用途。

I would focus way more on fit and what they were designed to do.

因为如果你只根据价格来挑选涉水装备，我觉得你最终可能会在某些方面失望，因为你可能会买太便宜的，然后想，好吧。

Because if you if you base your entire wading gear search just on price, I I think you're gonna end up be dis being disappointed in some way because you're either gonna go too cheap, say, okay.

好吧，我就买最便宜的，然后你会失望的，因为它很快就会磨损。

Well, I'm just gonna get the cheapest stuff, and then you're gonna be disappointed because it's gonna wear out quickly.

它会散架的。

It's gonna fall apart.

可能也不太合脚。

It's not gonna fit well maybe.

或者你会说，好吧。

Or you're gonna say, okay.

这是市面上最贵的，所以肯定是最好的。

This is the most expensive stuff on the market, so it has to be the best.

我买了。

I'm gonna buy it.

然后你又会有点失望，因为可能它并不完全符合你对装备的期望或需求。

And then you're gonna be kinda disappointed because maybe it doesn't live up to exactly what you want or what you need out of your gear.

所以这就是为什么我说，价格其实很重要，因为我知道这些东西不便宜，不幸的是，但它不应该排在首位。

So that's why I say, you know, price really it's gonna come in because I I know this stuff's not cheap, unfortunately, but it shouldn't be at the top of your list.

好吗？

K?

先关注合身程度以及装备的功能，然后再看自己能负担得起什么，接着再做决定。

Focus on the fit and the what the gear is meant to do, then figure out what you can afford and go from there.

所以接下来节目的主要内容，就是把这些工具和信息都提供给你，帮你选到最适合你的钓鱼裤和靴子。

So really, that's what the the rest of the show is gonna be about, is just giving you all those tools, all the info you need to pick the right pair of waders and boots for you.

因为再说一遍，我喜欢的、经常用的那些装备，不一定就最适合你。

Because again, the waders and boots that I love, stuff that I use all the time, may not necessarily be what's best for you.

我是说，好吧。

I mean, shoot.

Alex，就是跟我一起在VFC拍视频的那位哥们儿，我们经常在同一个水域、同一时间一起钓鱼，但我们穿的防水裤不一样，因为我们各自对防水裤的需求不同。

Alex, the the other guy in the videos here at VFC with me, we fish the same waters together and the same areas at the same time, and we don't wear the same kinds of waders because we both like different things out of our waders.

而且通常连靴子我们都穿的不一样。

And I don't we don't usually don't even wear the same boots either.

所以即便这样，我们的钓鱼方式其实挺相似的。

So even within that, we fish similarly.

我们在同一片水域。

We're on the same water.

我们的喜好不同。

We have different tastes.

所以你会看到这一点。

So you'll you'll even see that.

首先，我们来谈谈合身度，因为这非常重要，而且我觉得很多人没有意识到调整好涉水裤合身度的重要性。

So first things first, let's talk about fit because this is really important, and I don't think a lot of folks understand just how important it is to dial in the fit of their waders.

因为如果涉水裤不合身，穿起来会很不舒服，而且磨损得也更快。

Because if your waders don't fit well, they're gonna be a lot less comfortable and they're gonna wear out way more quickly.

对吧？

Okay?

涉水裤太紧的话，弯腰系鞋带、捞鱼、捡起掉在地上的飞钓饵都会很困难。

Waders that are too tight means that it's gonna be really tough to bend over and and tie your boots up, to net a fish, to pick up the flies that you dropped on the ground.

而涉水裤太松的话，你一整天都会像泡在多余的材料里一样。

And then waders that are too loose, you're gonna be kinda drowning in extra material all day long.

你会觉得自己好像快在一个垃圾袋里游泳了。

You're gonna feel like you're almost swimming in a trash bag kind of a thing.

然后在这两种极端情况下，无论是太紧还是太松，你都会对所有的接缝和缝线造成更多的磨损，这是它们设计时无法承受的，这会让它们更快地坏掉。

And then at either end of that spectrum, whether they're too tight or they're too loose, you're gonna be putting more wear and tear on all of the seams and all the stitching and the waders in ways that they weren't designed to handle, and that is going to make them wear out that much more quickly.

根据我的经验，我认为接缝可能是渔裤最常见的故障点，所以那里最容易漏水，出现小针孔。

And I would say, in my experience, I think seams are probably the most common failure point in waders, so that's where you're most prone to get leaks, little pinhole holes.

所以真的重要的是选一条合身、不限制活动，但也不会让你感觉像穿着宇航服之类的裤子。

So it really is important to get a pair that fits well and and that doesn't restrict your movement, but doesn't make you feel like you're wearing a space suit or anything like that.

理想情况下，你穿着这身涉水裤应该能自由活动，不会觉得受限。

Ideally, you should be able to move around in these waders without feeling restricted.

你知道的，你得能把腿抬得足够高，好跨过一根倒木或者爬过一块大石头之类的，然后还得能弯腰、下蹲和坐下。

You know, you wanna be able to lift your legs high enough to climb over a log or scramble over a boulder or something, and then you wanna be able to bend over and squat and sit down.

只要有可能，你在涉水裤里做这些日常动作时都应该自如才行。

You you need to be able to make all of those normal movements in your waders if you possibly can.

这里稍微岔开一下话题。

And just a little little tangent here.

这大概是七八年前的事了。

This was probably seven or eight years ago now.

我从当时的一家厂商那儿买了一副涉水裤，特别兴奋，因为是前拉链款式的，而且赶上打折，大概打了对折之类的。

I got a pair of waders from one of the companies that was making them at the time, and I was really excited because they were ZipFront waders, and I got them on sale, so they were, like, half off or something.

真是个好价。

Really good deal.

我当时高兴坏了。

Was so stoked.

我想着大概撑过了两次行程，直到当天结束才把它们脱下来，结果发现裆部有一大块湿痕，那里正在漏水。

And I think I made it through, like, two trips before I took them off at the end of the day, and I had a huge wet spot right in the crotch where it was leaking.

那样子看起来就像是我自己尿湿了裤子，特别尴尬。整天在水里泡着，最后走进加油站想买点吃的喝的，结果裤裆那儿全是湿的。

It looked like I just peed myself, which was really embarrassing to walk into the gas station after being on the water all day and, you know, get something to eat and drink, and my pants are all wet right there.

所以我当时一直在琢磨是怎么回事，因为就像我说的，那是我才用的第二次或者第三次。

So I was trying to figure it out because like I said, it was the second or third time I'd used them.

我仔细看了看，果然没错，那个位置的接缝正好裂开了。

And I'm looking at them and sure enough, the seam had just kinda split open right there at the crotch.

所以我就给那家涉水裤公司打了电话，他们态度特别好。

So I called the waiter company and they were great.

他们让我寄回去了。

They took them back.

然后给我寄了一条新的过来。

They sent me a new pair.

结果同样的毛病又来了一遍。

Same thing happened.

又寄回去了。

Sent them back.

他们又给我补寄了一条。

They sent me a new pair.

这已经是第三双出同样的问题了。

Same thing happened on the third pair.

最后客服就跟我说，好的，您稍等。

And finally, the customer service guy's like, okay, hold on.

你的尺寸是多少？

What are your measurements?

我把尺寸告诉他，他说好的。

And I I gave him the measurements, and he's like, yeah.

所以你买了一个大得离谱的尺码，不管你是蹲下、站起来、走路，或者做其他任何动作，只要一动，缝线那里就会承受巨大的额外压力，最后直接崩开。

So you ordered a size that's way too big, and every time that you are squatting or stand or walking or just about anything, just the way that you're moving, you're putting so much extra stress on that seam right there that it's just popping it.

后来他帮我换成了合适的尺码，不过也没穿特别久，因为我后来不小心挂到了带刺的铁丝网。

So he got me into the right size, and then they ended up lasting not terribly longer because I did have a run-in with a barbed wire fence.

不过裆部的接缝没裂，这点还算不错。

But the the crotch seam didn't split, so that was helpful.

但这正好说明为什么一定要仔细挑选和试穿，因为这类问题随时可能发生。

But that's just an illustration of how important it is to dial and fit because that kind of stuff will happen.

然后你就会想，哎，这防水裤真是垃圾。

And then you think, oh, well, these waders are crap.

好像根本没人能造出完全不漏水的防水裤。

They just no one could build a wader that doesn't leak.

好吧。

Well, k.

确实如此。

That's true.

每条涉水裤最终都会漏水。

Every wader is going to leak eventually.

但很多时候，出问题是因为尺码不太合适。

But usually, a lot of the times, the failure points are because the sizing's not quite right.

所以如果你能在买之前试穿一下防水裤，我强烈建议这么做，因为这能帮你找到最合适的尺码。

So if you can try waders on before you buy them, that is what I recommend because that's really gonna help you dial that fit in.

但如果没法试穿，比如只是在网上购买的话，大多数知名大牌的防水裤厂商都有很详细的尺码表。

But if you can't, if you're just buying online, most of the big reputable wader makers, they have great sizing charts.

而且再说一遍，如果你买的裤子不合身，就像我刚才故事里说的那样，他们也会尽力帮你解决。

And again, if you buy a pair that doesn't fit right, just like I illustrated with that story, they're gonna do what they can to make it right.

不过你可能没法从一条裤子上得到三条的使用寿命。

Now you might not get three pairs out of them.

我也不知道他们怎么那么好，一下给我寄了这么多。不过你放心，他们会把你照顾好的。

I don't know why they were so nice to send me that many, but, you know, you you will get taken care of.

他们会帮你把尺码调整到合身。

They will help you dial it in.

如果你不确定尺码合不合适，一定要给他们打个电话。

And if you're not sure of the fit, always call them.

我在那些大公司买涉水裤的时候，客服体验从来没差过。

I've never had a bad customer experience customer service experience with any of the big companies when I'm trying to buy waders from them.

所以他们会帮你找到合适的装备。

So they will get you into the right gear.

所以我绝对推荐这么做。

So I rec definitely recommend that.

说到靴子，尺码最重要的还是舒适度，对磨损的影响反而小一些。

Now as far as boots go, when we talk about fit, fit's really important mostly for comfort here, a little bit less so on the wear and tear.

但从舒适的角度来说，你就要确保尺码是刚刚好的。

But from a comfort perspective, you just gotta make sure that you've got the size dialed in.

然后，如果你不能亲自去试穿，就利用你要购买的那家公司的网站上的信息来选择合适的尺码。

And then again, use the info on whatever company's website that you go to to buy them, to size it if you're not buying the boots in person, can't try them on.

刚才说的是关于合身的问题，为什么合身这么重要。

Now that's the stuff about fit, why fit matters so much.

现在还有另一个极端，就是这些防水裤到底能用来做什么？

Now there's also the other end of the spectrum here, which is what are those waders built to do?

我觉得这一点甚至比合身问题更容易被忽视，因为大家总觉得，嗯，防水裤不就是防水裤嘛。

And this is a I think even more than fit, this gets overlooked a lot because folks just think, well, you know, waders are waiters.

对吧？

Right?

我就直接买一双。

I just go buy a pair.

还不行。

Not quite.

知道吗？

K?

因为说实话，当你看看路亚钓鱼市场的时候，我们得稍微深入一点来看这个问题。

Because honestly, when when you look at the fly fishing market and and we kinda gotta get a little meta here.

你看路亚钓鱼市场，它主要由两类钓友主导。

When you look at the fly fishing market, it's really dominated by two types of anglers.

一类是每个月出去钓几次的钓友，另一类是每周出去钓几次的钓友。

You've got the the anglers who get out a few times a month, and then the anglers who get out a few times a week.

对吧。

K.

那些天天在水上，或者一年大概能去两百次的人，在飞钓爱好者里其实只占很小一部分。

The folks who are out there every day or, you know, 200 a year on the water, that's a very small minority of fly anglers.

大多数人一个月也就去个一两次，要是运气好，可能一周能去一两次。

A lot of them, you know, once or twice a month, maybe once or twice a week if they're really lucky.

所以中间这个群体其实没多少人。

So there's really not a lot in that middle ground.

因此大多数防水裤都是为这两类人中的某一类设计的。

So most waders are designed for one of those groups of people.

那些偶尔出去钓鱼的人，还有那些半定期出去的人。

The folks who are out there, you know, occasionally and the folks who are out there semi regularly.

大部分参与度都来自这些人，所以这些公司会说，嘿，我们要造出能满足大多数人的涉水裤，这样就能卖给最多的人。

That's where most of your most of your participation comes, so that's where these companies gonna say, hey, we're gonna build waders that meet the needs of the most people so we can sell to the most folks.

对吧？

K?

再说一遍，用数字来说明，很多涉水裤和靴子是为那些一年最多在水上待十到二十天的钓鱼人设计的，而不是那些一年待三十到四十天甚至更多的人。

Again, just to put that into numbers, you know, a lot of waders and boots are made for anglers who are spending, you know, ten to twenty days a year on the water at most versus thirty to forty or more days a year on the water.

对吧？

K?

所以这就是你看到的实际情况。

So that's really what what you're looking at.

一年在水上待十到二十天的钓鱼人，和那些当向导或者整天钓鱼的鳟鱼爱好者，他们的需求差别很大。

And the angler that's on the water ten to twenty days a year, they've got a vastly different set of needs from the angler who is a guide or who's the trout bum who just fishes all the time.

那是他们唯一做的事。

That's the only thing that they do.

那些一年只在水上待个十到二十天的钓友，根本不需要那种号称坚不可摧、超级耐用、用各种高端尼龙复合材料做的装备，别整那些听起来很贵的科学名词。

Those anglers who are out there ten to twenty days a year, they don't need a bomb proof, ultra durable, super fancy nylon composite, whatever, throw fancy science words around so it sounds expensive.

他们也不需要那种特别奢华的高端防水裤。

They don't need that super bougie high end wader.

他们的装备并不会长时间处于极端恶劣的环境中。

Their gear just isn't going to be in demanding conditions for huge lengths of time.

所以没必要买那么高级的。

They don't need that.

我不是说如果你想要的话就别买，你想买就买。

Now I'm not saying don't buy it if that's what you want, go get it.

但如果你属于那种一年只在水上待十到二十天的人，它其实并不能帮你实现钓鱼的目标。

But it's not really what you need to accomplish your fishing goals if you fall into that, you know, ten to twenty days a year on the water bucket.

所以这是其中一个方面，也就是你实际花多少时间在水上，这会影响到你对渔具的选择。

So there's that that side of it, which is how much time are you actually spending on the water that's gonna factor into your waiter decision.

还有另一方面，就是你在水上时具体在进行哪种类型的钓鱼活动。

And then there's also what kind of fishing are you doing when you're out there on the water.

你是不是花很多时间沿着溪流边走？

Are you spending a lot of time, you know, walking stream side?

你是不是从一个钓点走到另一个钓点？

Are you hiking from spot to spot?

你每次出钓的时候，脚上要走多少英里路？

Are you putting a lot of miles on your feet on the days that you're out there?

你主要是从漂流艇上钓鱼吗？

Are you fishing mostly from a drift boat?

好的。

Okay.

所以其实你下水的时间并不多。

So you're really not in the water a whole ton.

也许你只是偶尔需要下网捕鱼，或者去走走看看那些看起来不错的河段。

Maybe you gotta get out a net of fish or maybe you get out to walk and wade a stretch that looks really good.

还是说你所在的地方，一年里能有五个月左右可以湿穿涉水，所以你只需要在初秋到晚春这段时间穿防水裤，熬过最冷的几个月就行了？

Or are you in an area where, you know, you're lucky that you can wet wade for, you know, maybe five ish months out of the year and you only really need waders from early fall through late spring just to get you through the coldest months of the year.

这些因素在你买钓鱼裤的时候都得考虑进去。

All of those things need to factor into the decision that you make when you buy a pair of waders.

因为如果你经常徒步，在河岸上攀爬，或者是在太平洋西北地区钓虹鳟，那在那些河里涉水行走确实挺费体力的。

Because if you're doing a lot of hiking, you're doing a lot of scrambling around on the banks, if you fish, you know, maybe Pacific Northwest area, you're doing steelhead, that can be pretty demanding walking and wading up some of those rivers.

有时候在那种地形里移动真的挺费劲的。

It's just it it's really tough getting around sometimes.

如果你经常遇到这种情况，那你可能需要一条更耐磨的钓鱼裤，能扛得住灌木丛的刮擦、在岩石上滑倒摔碰之类的磨损，最好还有点运动风格的剪裁，穿起来更灵活。

If you're doing a lot of that, you you probably want a wader that's more abrasion resistant, something that's going to stand up better to busting through the brush, slipping and falling on a rock, stuff that's, you know, just gonna hold up to a bit more abuse, something that has maybe a bit more athletic inspired fit to it.

它的腿部活动范围挺大的。

It's got a good range of motion in the legs.

这对你来说非常理想，因为跟你的使用场景很匹配。

That's gonna be pretty ideal for you because that fits what you're doing.

如果你大部分时间都坐在漂流船上，就不需要那么高的性能。

If you're in a drift boat most of the time, you don't need that same level of performance.

两种做法都没问题。

And there's nothing wrong with either approach.

说实话而已。

It's just being honest.

嘿。

Hey.

我大部分时间是怎么钓鱼的？

How am I fishing most of the time?

什么样的涉水裤才适合我这种情况？

What waders are gonna match that situation I find myself in?

涉水靴也是一样的道理。

And the exact same thing goes for wading boots.

我的脚踝特别脆弱，就像玻璃做的。

I've got really delicate ankles like they were made from glass.

很糟糕。

It's bad.

我甚至能在人行道的小裂缝里扭到脚踝。

I I can turn them on just, you know, the little cracks in the sidewalk in between the concrete.

对。

Yeah.

我经常在那上面崴脚。

I'll roll my ankle on that all the time.

你把一便士硬币面朝下放着。

You lay a penny face down.

我都会在那上面崴脚。

I'll roll my ankle on that.

太糟糕了。

It's so bad.

所以我需要高帮支撑的涉水靴，所以我总是选择更硬、更重的靴子，因为那正是我需要的。

So I need a lot of high ankle support in my wading boots, so I always opt for a stiffer, heavier boot because that's just what I need.

不过，在我湿涉水时，它们不太适合长途徒步，因为它们有点重。

Now they're not the best for really long hikes when I'm wet wading because they're a little heavier.

它们只是不太适合走更远的路，但这正是我需要的。

They're just not as comfortable to hike longer distances in, but it's it's what I need.

所以这就是我用的靴子。

So that's the boot that I use.

另一方面，亚历克斯，他喜欢那种超轻便的靴子，因为他钓鱼的时候经常要走很多路，蹚很多水，还要徒步很久。

On the other hand, Alex, he likes the really lightweight style boots because he tends to do a lot of walking, a lot of wading, a lot of hiking when he's fishing.

所以他想要更灵活、更轻便的，这样他就能少费点劲到处走动。

So he wants stuff that's more nimble, a bit lighter, so he can just move around with a little bit less effort.

明白吗？

K?

而且，我真的需要强调一下。

And again, just really need to drive home.

所有这些都比仅仅根据价格做决定重要得多。

All of this is so much more important than just making a decision based on price.

明白吗？

K?

说实话，那样做是买任何装备最糟糕的方式。

Doing that honestly, it's the worst way to buy any piece of gear.

我在这儿把话撂这儿。

I'm gonna stake my claim on that.

不只是飞钓装备，而是所有装备都适用。

Not not just fly fishing gear, but any gear in general.

因为如果只盯着价格看，很可能最后买到的东西你并不怎么喜欢。

Because if you base it only on price, you know, there's a chance you're gonna you're gonna end up with something you're not a huge fan of.

我不是说你们可以没有预算、不负责任，当然，该省还是要省。

Now I'm not telling you don't have a budget, don't be responsible, you know, don't don't well, okay.

这不是财务建议，但别为了买涉水裤去动你的罗斯个人养老金账户或者孩子的教育基金之类的钱。

This isn't financial advice, but don't pull from your Roth IRA or your kid's college fund or whatever it is to go buy your waders.

我不是这个意思，但别把价格当成买装备时最重要、最核心的决定因素，因为不然的话，你最后很可能买到一个不太满意的东西。

I'm not saying that, but don't make that the biggest, most important decision in this process of buying gear because again, you're probably gonna end up with something that you're not a huge fan of.

对吧？

K?

现在咱们也聊聊价格这块吧，毕竟这确实是大家最关心的那个问题。

Now, let let's just get into the price aspect of it too because that that kinda is the elephant in the room.

我知道现在有些涉水裤挺坑人的。

I I know waiters are stupid right now.

市面上确实有卖一千美元的涉水裤。

I know there's waiters on the market for like a thousand bucks.

甚至可能还有更贵的，这简直离谱。

There might even be some for more than that now, which is crazy.

对吧？

Right?

我记得大概是十年前买的。

You know, I bought a I think it was probably probably about ten years ago now.

我买了一套顶级的防水裤，当时大概六百美元。我不是说六百块不算多，但毕竟不是整整一千块。

I bought a top of the line pair of waders, and at the time they were like $600, which I'm not saying that $600 isn't a lot of money, but it's not a thousand.

放在十年前，花六百块比花一千块容易接受多了。

It was a lot easier to swallow ten years ago than a thousand bucks.

关于价格这块，确实有很多值得细说的地方。

And there is there's a lot to dissect here about price.

一般来说，你花在防水裤和靴子上的钱越多，产品背后的保修支持就越好，而且根据我的经验，你得到的产品更有可能用得更久。

So generally speaking, the more that you pay for your waders and boots, the better warranty support you're gonna get behind the product, and you are going to get a product that in my experience is going has a better chance of lasting longer.

我觉得这是最好的说法。

I think it's probably the best way to put it.

如果你花更多的钱，你会得到更好的保修支持，而且比便宜货更有可能用得久。

You're gonna get better warranty support with that product if you spend more on it, and you are going to have a better chance of that lasting longer than the cheaper stuff.

但是，你的满意度、你对质量的感知，并不一定因为你花了多少钱就得到保证。

Now, your satisfaction, your perception of quality, they absolutely are not guaranteed if you spend a lot of money.

我不是让你花大钱。

And I'm not telling you to spend a lot of money.

那不是获得好装备的唯一途径。

That's not the only way to get good gear.

我完全不是那个意思。

Not saying that at all.

明白吗？

K?

但我有机会穿过几乎所有主要制造商生产的涉水裤和靴子，而且我对它们的保修体验都非常好。

But I have had the the chance to use waders boots from almost every major manufacturer out there, and I have had really good warranty experiences with all of them.

所以我认为，选择一家信誉良好的公司来购买这些产品是有道理的，因为当产品出问题时，你会得到很好的支持。

So I do think there's something to be said for going with a reputable company who makes this stuff, and that's what they do because I think you're gonna get good support when those products fail.

因为最终，你的靴子会磨损，涉水裤会漏水，而且会坏到无法修复的地步。

Because eventually, your boots are gonna wear out, your waders are gonna leak, and they're gonna get to the point they can't be repaired.

所以，你购买的产品背后的保修支持非常重要，因为它能减少你无法使用所需装备的时间。

So the warranty support behind the stuff you're buying is really important because it's gonna decrease the amount of time that you don't have the gear that you want.

然后如果有问题，他们会照顾你。

And then if there is a problem, they're gonna take care of you.

他们会修好它。

They're gonna fix it.

而且这不仅仅是，你知道，他们对每个人都这样。

And it's not just, you know, they do that for everybody.

他们不只是为播客里的那个人这样做。

It's not just the guy on the podcast that they do it for.

不是。

No.

他们对每个人都这样。

They do that for everybody.

对吧？

Okay?

这些公司能经营下去，靠的就是照顾好他们的客户。

That's how these companies stay in business is taking care of their their customers.

对吧？

Okay?

所以保修和支持真的很重要，如果你觉得这些重要的话，对我来说它们很重要，我的建议是不要只在大卖场或亚马逊上的随便一个卖家那里买涉水裤和靴子。

So warranty and support are really, if those are really important to you and they are to me, my advice is to buy waders and boots somewhere other than just a big box store or random seller on Amazon.

明白吗？

K?

如果那种体验对你来说值得，你想要好的保修支持，你想要更有可能用得久的东西，那就不要只从当地的大卖场或亚马逊买。

If that experience is worth it to you, you want good warranty support, and you want stuff that has a better chance of lasting for a while, don't just buy from, you know, the local big box or an Amazon.

去那些真正生产涉水裤的公司买，这才是他们的专长。

Go to a company that actually builds waders and that's what they do.

这就是我的个人建议。

That's, you know, that's my 2¢ on it.

我知道价格确实是个问题。

So I I know price can be tough.

而且再说一遍，花更多的钱并不保证你能买到更好的产品。

And again, spending more does not guarantee you a better product.

不管预算多少，你总能找到适合自己的产品。

You are going to find stuff at every price point that you are going to be able to enjoy in some level.

对吧？

K?

不过花更多的钱，通常就能买到我刚才说的那两样东西。

But when you spend more money, that's generally what you're gonna get are those two things that I outlined.

但这也不是百分之百保证的。

It's not a guarantee.

而且没有什么是一定的，但一般来说，你遇到的情况就会是这样。

And nothing's a guarantee, but generally speaking, that's what's gonna happen for you.

那些低端的东西，我有过非常糟糕的经历。

The lower end stuff, I've had really bad experiences with.

我的意思是，天哪，我还在上高中的时候，去当地的大卖场买了一双防水裤。

I mean, shoot, there was a point it I was still in high school and I went and bought a pair of waders from the local big box store.

没什么特别的。

Nothing fancy.

我记得当时大概80美元，我特别兴奋。

I think they were like $80 at the time and I was so excited.

那是我第一双防水裤，我穿上它们就出去了。

It was my first pair of waders and I went out, I was wearing them.

大概两个小时之后，它们就开始漏水了。

Like two two hours in, they started leaking.

我当时特别沮丧。

It was I was so crestfallen.

我

I

我觉得我快哭了。

I I think I cried.

所以第二天我就把它拿回去，他们二话不说就给我换了，但结果还是漏水。

So I I took it back the next day and they exchanged them the questions asked, but the same thing happened again where they leaked.

这次没那么快，但最后还是很快就漏了。

It wasn't that quickly this time, but they did end up leaking pretty quickly.

大概几个星期内吧。

Within a couple weeks, I think.

最后我发现，是因为我走路的时候，尺码不对，你知道，又说到合身的问题了，我尺码不对，所以腿内侧的接缝互相摩擦，就磨坏了。

And what ended up happening, I found when I was walking, because I had the wrong size, another, you know, speaking to fit again here, but I had the wrong size so the seams on the insides of the legs are rubbing against each other and just wearing out.

但材料真的很薄，质量不好，所以很快就磨损了。

But the material was really thin, it wasn't high quality, and it just wore out very quickly.

对吧？

K?

不是所有人对便宜防水裤都有这种体验。

That's not everybody's experience with cheap waders.

我明白。

I understand that.

有些人买了便宜的防水裤，用得挺好的，但我的经历就是这样，而且这也不是我第一次遇到便宜防水裤出这种问题。

There's some folks who have them and and get great use out of them, but that was mine and that's not the only cheap wader experience that I've had where something like that's happened.

通常我穿贵一点的防水裤就没遇到过这种情况。

I usually haven't had things like that with the more expensive waiters.

再说一次，我不是说你非得花那个钱。

Again, not saying you need to spend the money.

我只是分享我的经历和我的看法。

I'm giving you my experience and my 2¢.

为了帮你更清楚地了解，我把要点都整理出来了，方便你参考。

And just to help distill all this even further, so it's it's right there for you to look.

你不用再听我唠叨一遍来做决定。

You don't have to listen to me yammer again to help make up your decision.

我们其实有一份完整的购买指南，涵盖了涉水裤和靴子。

We actually have a complete buying guide for both waders and boots.

里面包含了我们今天聊的所有内容，还有一些其他细节。

It includes everything that we've talked about today, a few other details as well.

我会把链接放在节目说明里，或者如果你在看视频播客，屏幕上也会有二维码，你可以直接点击查看那些购买指南。

I'll actually throw links for those down in the show notes, or there's gonna be QR codes here on the screen if you're watching the video podcast, and you can you can just click on those and check out those buying guides as well.

在节目正式开始之前，我要先给大家一些装备推荐，因为我在开头答应过你们，而且我们经常被问到这个问题。

And then before we wrap up the open of the show, I'm gonna go ahead and give out some recommendations on gear because I told you guys I would at the beginning, and we do get asked this a lot.

大家都想知道我们用的是什么，推荐什么。

Folks wanna know what we use and what we recommend.

基于我们今天讨论的所有内容，比如合身、设计、产品用途，还有良好的保修支持，我们个人用的装备都是Skwala的。

Based on everything we've talked about today, so buying for fit, buying for the design, the use of the product, getting something with good warranty support, our our stuff that we use personally is everything from Skwala.

对吧？

K?

他们的靴子和涉水裤都很棒，而且我在加入VFC团队之前就已经在用他们的产品了。

Their boots, their waders are excellent, and we've been using them since well before I even joined the team at VFC.

我觉得在他们还没开始之前，我就已经在用他们的产品了。

I've been using their stuff since before they even started, I think.

我记得他们给我寄了一些东西让我试用，如果我没记错的话。

They sent me some stuff to test out, I I think if I remember correctly.

但我们太喜欢他们的装备了，所以干脆就正式合作了。

But we enjoy their gear so much that we actually went ahead and and made it official.

他们是我们官方的涉水装备合作伙伴。

They're our official wading gear partner.

所以，你知道，支持他们就是支持我们，这些有趣的事情。

So, you know, supporting them supports us, all that all that fun stuff.

但我们真的想让合作正式化，因为我们喜欢他们的装备。

But we really wanted to make the partnership official because we love their gear.

我们相信它。

We believe in it.

这些装备在水里对我们帮助很大。

It's stuff that served us extremely well on the water.

不过我得说，Skwala 的东西不便宜。

Now the caveat is I understand Skwala is not cheap.

我也不是说每个人都必须买。

And I'm not telling you guys that everybody needs it.

明白吗？

K?

但我想说的是，如果你钓鱼的方式跟我差不多，一周出去几天，经常在小溪边徒步，也会从漂流船上钓鱼，还会在大河上钓鱼，而且一出去就是一整天，那我觉得很难找到比 Skwala 更好的了。

But I'm telling you, if you do fishing similar to what I'm doing, you're out couple days a week, you do a lot of hiking around on smaller streams, you do a good mix from fishing from a drift boat, you do a lot on some bigger rivers, and when you're out, you're out for, you know, a whole day at a time.

在我看来，真的很难有比 Skwala 更好的选择。

It's really hard in my opinion to beat what we're getting from Skwala.

所以这就是我们推荐他们产品的原因。

So that's why we recommend their stuff.

我很喜欢 RS 涉水裤和 RS 靴子。

I love the RS waders and the RS boots.

Alex 很喜欢碳纤维那套。

Alex loves the carbon setup.

他们家的东西真的不会让你失望。

You really just can't go wrong with what they offer.

所以如果你钓鱼的方式跟我和Alex在视频里展示的差不多，那一定要去看看他们的产品。

So if you do fishing similar to what you see Alex and I doing in these videos, definitely go give them a look.

如果预算允许的话，我强烈推荐你去了解一下。

If they're in your budget, I would highly recommend checking them out.

这就是我的推荐。

So that's the recommendation.

通常呢，我们会在节目的后半段安排一个问答环节，但今天我想把整个问答时间都用来专门回答关于涉水裤的问题，这样我们就能把涉水裤和靴子的事聊得透透的，让你们听完这期节目后觉得，嗯，我明白该怎么做了。

And now in place, we usually do a q and a section to for the last half of the show, but what I wanted to do today was actually to dedicate the entire q and a portion to questions specifically about waiters just so we can really I I wanna leave no stone unturned with waiters and boots so that you guys leave this show feeling like, okay.

我知道我需要做什么，而且很清楚。

I know what I need to do, and it's clear.

这个大的障碍算是解决了。

And this big stumbling block is kinda removed.

因为我知道大家在买涉水裤和靴子的时候，确实会遇到很多困扰。

Because I know this really does cause a lot of grief for folks when they're trying to buy waders and boots.

现在你明白我们VFC是怎么看待装备的，以及我们为什么推荐这些，我想你就有背景知识来理解我为什么这样回答这些问题了。

And now that you you understand how we think about gear here at VFC and why we recommend what we do, I think you're gonna have the context that you need to understand why I'm answering these questions the way that I am.

我们最常听到的一个问题，尤其是在视频里，如果我们做关于涉水裤的视频，通常会听到类似这样的评论。

So one of the most common things we hear, and especially on videos, if we ever do a video about waders, we usually hear some variation of this comment.

他们会说，涉水裤是飞钓中最大的骗局。

They'll say, waders are the biggest scam in fly fishing.

即使是贵的涉水裤，也是设计成很快就穿坏的。

Even the expensive ones are designed to wear out fast.

你每两三年就得买一条新的。

You gotta buy a new pair every two to three years.

他们说这话的时候通常都很生气。

And they're usually very grumpy when they say it.

从语法和表情符号就能看出来，他们非常生气。

You can tell from the grammar and the emojis, they're very grumpy.

我完全理解为什么大家会有这种感觉。

Now, I understand completely why folks feel this way.

但你也要记住，你买一条涉水裤，到底买的是什么？

But you also do have to remember, what are you buying with a pair of waders?

你买的装备，设计上就是要百分之百时间泡在水里用的，然后它还得承受走路、涉水，甚至可能跑步带来的所有压力和拉伸——比如追一条大鱼，结果它把你拖进急流里。

You're buying gear that is designed to be wet a 100% of the time that it's used, and then it needs to withstand all the stress and stretching of walking, of wading, maybe running, if you gotta chase after a big fish that takes you down into the rapids.

对吧？

Okay?

还有穿过灌木丛、树枝，在去河边的路上摔在石头上的所有磨损。

All the abrasion of walking through brush and trees falling on rocks as you're getting to the river.

它得承受所有这些，同时还得保持防水。

It's gotta withstand all of that and then still be waterproof at the same time.

明白吗？

K?

你对装备的要求其实挺高的。

You're you're asking quite a bit out of your gear.

我觉得大家一般都没意识到，也不理解这一点。

I don't think people generally realize and understand that.

而且防水裤真的很有意思，因为它们通常不是被一次大的撞击弄坏的。

And waders are really interesting because they usually don't fail from one big impact.

它们通常——我是说，是的，一块非常锋利的石头确实会划破它们。

They usually I mean, yes, a a really sharp rock is gonna rip them.

几个月前亚历克斯就遇到了这种情况。

That happened to Alex a couple months ago.

他摔在石头上，角度不对，就划了一个大洞，然后就没用了。

He ripped a huge hole in his, just fell on a rock at the wrong angle, and that was all she wrote.

带刺的铁丝网会很快弄坏它们，但通常不是一块石头或一根树枝就弄坏的。

A barbed wire fence is gonna end them really quickly, but it's usually not just one rock or one tree branch that ends it.

通常，那是随着时间积累的，你知道，布料变弱，所有东西开始分解，然后漏水就慢慢开始了。

Usually, that just builds up over time and, you know, the the fabric weakens, everything kinda starts to break down, and then the leaks start to happen just slowly.

它们最终就是穿坏了。

They eventually just wear out.

这就是防水裤的本质。

And that's just the nature of waders.