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什么更让人头疼？
What's more intimidating?
是告诉你的婆婆她的炖肉其实很干，还是自己一个人去买根飞钓竿？
Having to tell your mother-in-law that her pot roast is actually pretty dry or buying a fly rod all on your own?
不管你是去渔具店还是网上逛，你可能都遇到过我们都会遇到的问题。
Whether you're at the fly shop or browsing online, you've probably run to the same problem we all do.
墙上挂着一排排的竿子，但几乎没有信息说明为什么有些要一千美元，哪一根真正适合你的需求。
There's a million rods lined up on the wall with little to no information about why some of them are a thousand dollars and which one is actually going to meet your specific needs.
今天在《Untangled》节目里，你会了解到所有关于飞钓竿的必备知识，这样你就能在需要买新竿子时做出明智的选择。
Today on Untangled, you're gonna get all the need to know information about fly rods so you can make a great decision when you gotta go pick up a new one.
从了解长度和线重之间的所有区别，到我个人推荐的竿子，听完这期节目，你只需要应付你婆婆的炖肉了。
From learning about all the differences between length and line weights to the rods that I personally recommend, you're gonna end this episode with only your mother in law's pot roast to deal with.
这里是《Untangled》，为所有人准备的飞钓节目，由Ventures Fly Co.呈现。
This is Untangled, fly fishing for everyone, presented by Ventures Fly Co.
大家好。
Hey, everybody.
欢迎收听。
Welcome to it.
这里是Untangled，我是主持人Spencer Durant。
This is Untangled, and I am your host, Spencer Durant.
我现在比昨晚在Rocky Mountain Wing Shack还要兴奋。
I am more excited to be here right now than I was to be at Rocky Mountain Wing Shack last night.
长期收听我们节目的听众都知道，我爱吃鸡翅，但我更爱飞钓竿。
And those of you who are longtime listeners of the show know that I love wings, but I love fly rods even more.
所以今天能和大家聊聊钓竿，我真的很开心。
So I'm really excited that I get to spend the time with y'all chatting rods today.
要是不注意的话，我能聊上好几个小时。
And if I'm not careful, I'd go on for hours and hours and hours.
所以希望我不会那样。
So hopefully, I don't do that.
别让大家听得耳朵起茧。
Don't talk y'all's ear off too much.
而且我真的希望，听完这些之后，你会觉得自己掌握了足够的知识，可以去挑选一根适合自己需求的飞钓竿。
And I do hope that by the end of this, you feel like you've got the knowledge you need to go out and pick a fly rod that is going to meet your needs.
因为归根结底，这些信息的目的就是这个。
Because at the end of the day, that's what all this information should do.
它应该让飞钓竿的世界看起来是触手可及的，而不是那种神秘莫测、被守护着的东西——我本来想说被巫师和斗篷守护，但其实也就是飞钓店里的员工而已。
It should make the world of fly rods seem like something that's accessible instead of something that's arcane and mystic and guarded by, I was gonna say, wizards and cloaks, but it's just fly shop employees.
所以咱们试着把这层神秘感揭开一点。
So let's try and peel that back a little bit.
我会先从飞钓竿的总体概述开始，然后随着我们深入，再聊到那些细节。
And I'm gonna start with just some general overview of fly rods, and then we'll get into the nitty gritty details as we move into this thing.
我觉得咱们先聊聊大多数市面上的飞钓竿——不管是在飞钓店还是网上买的——它们通常都是按照一个个小系列来生产的。
So I think let's start with talking about how most fly rods that are released and that you're gonna find for sale, whether it's at the fly shop or online, they are built in these little rod families.
这就像同一个型号的完整产品线。
And that's just like an entire lineup of the same model.
就像你去车行，看到一排Tacoma，有基础款，有TRD越野版，有TRD运动版，还有那个 fancy 的混动版，一直到最高配的Limited版。
Kinda like when you go to the car dealer and you've got that lineup of Tacomas right there, and there's the base model and then the TRD off road and the TRD sport and then the fancy hybrid one and then all the way up to I think it's the limited is the high end trim.
它们都是塔科马，但每款都有点不同，飞钓竿也是一样的道理。
They're all Tacomas, but they all got something that's a little bit different about them, and fly rods are the same thing.
但就像你去卡车市场看车一样，除了价格，你很难一眼看出这些车之间有什么区别。
But just like when you go to the the truck lot and you're looking at trucks, it's really not immediately clear what the differences are between all of these things except the price.
而且，你知道，可能其中一辆的轮子更高级一些。
And, you know, maybe one of them's got fancier wheels.
另一辆，你能看到一些区别，但并不是那么明显。
The other, you can see some of that stuff, but it's not immediately obvious.
好的。
Okay.
那这些到底有什么区别呢？
What is what's the difference between all of these?
它们都只是卡车而已。
They're they're all just a truck.
它们都只是飞钓竿而已。
They're all just fly rods.
而且就算你玩这个有一阵子了，对吧，你走过去看，会发现同一系列、同一品牌的九英尺五号线和八英尺半四号线就并排挂在墙上。
And even if you've been doing this for a while, right, you you go up and you look and you find a nine foot five weight and an eight and a half foot four weight from the same rod family, same rod maker on the wall next to each other.
但除了一个短一点、线号轻一点这种明显的区别之外，你还是不太清楚，比如，嗯。
But beyond the obvious difference that one's shorter and a lighter line weight, you still don't really know, like, k.
这根是干嘛用的？
What's this one designed for?
那根又是干嘛用的？
What's this one designed for?
这根能符合我作为一个在落基山脉、或者德利夫特莱斯、或者东部某地生活和钓鱼的钓者的需求吗？
Is this going to meet my needs as an angler who lives and fishes in the Rockies or somewhere in the Driftless or somewhere out East?
我们对渔场的需求各不相同。
We all have different needs for our fisheries.
所以，真正理解并解读这些信息的关键，其实在于定义几个不同的术语，并确保你知道它们会如何影响你在水上的体验。
So the key to actually understanding this and decoding all this information really comes down to defining a few different terms and making sure that you know how they impact the experience you're gonna have on the water.
这些术语就是竿长、竿的动作，还有线号。
And those terms are gonna be rod length, rod action, and then line weight.
那我们先从竿长说起。
So we'll start off with rod length.
大多数飞钓竿都是九英尺长，这基本上被定为最佳长度，能在抛投距离和精准度之间取得很好的平衡。
Most fly rods are nine feet long, and that's just been settled on as sort of the best length that gives you a good combination between reach and accuracy.
因为竿子越短，实际上会越精准。
Because the shorter a rod is, they're actually gonna be a bit more accurate.
所以七英尺、七英尺半、八英尺、八英尺半的竿子，天生就比九英尺、九英尺半或十英尺的竿子更精准，因为竿子材料更少，左右摆动的幅度也就更小。
So your seven, seven and a half foot, eight foot, eight and a half foot rods, those are inherently gonna be more accurate than a nine, nine and a half, or a 10 footer because there's less material in the rod, so there's less that the rod can move side to side.
我们称之为抗扭稳定性。
We call this torsional stability.
当你抛投飞蝇时，如果竿胚左右晃动得厉害，那就会影响你抛投的精准度。
And when you're making a fly cast, if that rod blank is moving side to side, it wobbles a lot, that is gonna throw off the accuracy of your fly cast.
所以，没错，精准度很大程度上取决于你作为钓鱼人，抛投动作是否正确，技巧是否到位。
So, yes, accuracy depends a lot on you as the angler, whether you're casting correctly and and using the the right mechanics.
但也取决于竿子本身是否足够稳定，是否具备良好的抗扭稳定性，不会左右晃动。
But it also depends on whether the rod is actually stable enough, has that good torsional stability, it doesn't wobble side to side.
而且竿子越长，左右晃动的幅度就越大。
And the longer a rod is, the more it's gonna move side to side.
就算是最好的、最新款、最高端的竿子，也还是会有点左右晃动。
Even the nicest, fanciest, latest, and greatest, they're still gonna move a little bit side to side.
这是天生的。
Just inherent.
竿子越短，左右晃动就越少，抛投的精准度也就越高。
Shorter the rod is, the less side to side movement you're gonna get, the more accurate cast you're gonna end up with.
所以，我们才把九英尺定为一个全能长度，因为它能给你一定的抛投距离。
And that's why, again, we settle on nine feet as sort of the do it all length because it gives you some reach.
你可以把线提起来。
You can pick the line up.
你可以做线迹修正。
You can mend it.
你可以高举竿子。
You can high stick.
你可以做死漂。
You can dead drift.
你可以越过水流的分界线，但在需要远距离抛投时，你仍然能保持精准。
You can reach over seams, but then you're still accurate when you need to punch out to longer distances.
你看那些短竿，比如八英尺或八英尺半的。
You look at shorter rods like an eight, eight and a half loader.
那些竿会限制你的抛投距离，但会提高你的精准度。
Those are gonna limit your reach, but they're gonna increase your accuracy.
所以那是我在钓干蝇时会选择的。
So that's something that I would pick up for more of the dry fly fishing.
如果你真的需要精准，你其实不太担心，你知道，把每个水坑都翻个遍。
If you you really need to be accurate, you're not really worried about, you know, picking pockets apart.
你是在一条大的泉水溪或大的自由石溪上，或者你在向那些有节奏地浮起的鱼抛投。
You're you're on a big spring creek or a big freestone or you're casting to fish that are they're rising in rhythm.
也许短竿在那个时候会帮到你。
Maybe a shorter rod's gonna help you out at that point.
所以这就是鱼竿长度的意义所在。
So that's what rod length is all about.
鱼竿越长，抛投距离越远，但准确性会有所牺牲。
The longer the rod, the more reach you get, but you trade off the accuracy.
鱼竿越短，准确性越高，但会损失一些抛投距离。
The shorter the rod, more accurate it is, but you gain or you lose some of the reach.
明白了吗？
K?
接下来要讲的是鱼竿的调性。
Next thing to talk about is going to be rod action.
这指的是抛投时鱼竿弯曲的程度，以及这根鱼竿真正适合做什么。
And this just tells you how much of the rod bends during the cast and what that rod is really designed to do.
快调鱼竿通常设计用来搭配较重的线和较重的飞蝇。
So fast action rods, they are generally designed to excel with heavier lines, heavier flies.
那才是它们真正发挥主要作用的地方。
That's really where they do a lot of the heavy lifting.
慢调性的竿子最适合配轻一些的线和小的飞蝇。
Slower action rods, they are going to do best with lighter lines and smaller flies.
为了说清楚，快调性的竿子在抛投时，弯曲的部分大概在竿子的上三分之一。
And then just to define that as well, a fast action rod is going to bend in, like, the top third of the rod.
也就是说，从竿尖到大约上三分之一的位置，抛投时会弯曲。
So from the tip down to about the top third, that's gonna bend during the cast.
中调性的竿子从竿尖弯到竿子中间，而慢调性的竿子则从竿尖一直弯到软木握把。
Medium action's gonna bend from the tip down to the middle of the rod, and then slow action's gonna bend from the tip all the way down to the cork.
快调性的竿子更有力量。
And fast action rods have got a bit more power.
它们的腰力更足，但很多快调性的竿子，你会感觉灵敏度稍微差一点。
They've got a bit more backbone to them, but a lot of those fast action sticks, you kinda lose a little bit of the sensitivity.
手感上会差一些。
You lose a little bit of the feel.
所以更难，我见过很多我带过的初学者都有这个问题。
So it's harder and I I've seen this with a lot of the beginners that I've had the chance to guide.
所以在VFC这里，我们推荐大家一开始都买中调性九英尺五号竿，因为中调性让你能感受到抛投的节奏，让你学会当感觉对了的时候，哦，该把后抛往前带了。
And then folks here at VFC, that's why the rod we recommend everyone get is a medium action nine foot five weight to start because that medium action lets you feel the casting rhythm and lets you learn what it feels like when, oh, it's time to move my back cast forward.
该把前抛往后带了。
It's time to move my forward cast backward.
因为，没错，你可以站在那里看着你的线环展开拉直，但很大程度上还是要靠手感，要培养时机感，学会感受竿子的负荷和释放。
Because, yes, you can sit there and watch your loops unfurl and straighten out, but a lot of it comes down to feel and developing the timing and learning what the load and unload of the rod feels like.
一根足够灵敏、能给你这些反馈的竿子，真的能让初学飞钓时的学习曲线不那么陡峭。
And a rod that's sensitive enough to give you that information really helps that learning curve just be be less steep at the at the at the beginning with the fly rod.
所以这就是为什么我们推荐中调性的抛投竿，因为如果你用更快的竿子，一开始不一定能练出最好的抛投技巧。
So that's why we recommend, you know, medium casting action because you go up to a faster rod, and you're not necessarily going to be able to develop the best casting mechanics right out of the bat.
那会有点难。
It's a little bit tougher.
对吧？
Okay?
然后如果你用更慢的竿子，也会有点难，因为慢竿的时机感需要一点时间去适应。
And then you go to a slower rod, and it's also kinda tougher because the timing on a slower rod is a little bit challenging to get used to.
这种中等调性的竿子，对学习来说是个很好的中间选择，既能应付一些大点的东西，也能处理一些小的干蝇。
That medium action, a really good middle ground for learning, and then it will do still some of the bigger stuff, but it will also do some of the smaller dry flies as well.
这些都是泛泛而谈。
And this is all general.
我们会用更快的竿子来抛大点的假蝇，比如大的 nymph 组合、streamer、大的 hopper dropper 组合，而慢一点的竿子则适合抛单个干蝇和小型的干蝇加 dropper 组合。
We talk faster rods for bigger flies like big nymph rigs, streamers, big hopper dropper setups, slower rods for single dry flies and small dry dropper rigs.
不过有些人其实更喜欢用慢竿来抛大假蝇。
Some folks actually prefer a slower rod for bigger flies, though.
所以这真的取决于你最喜欢什么，你喜欢什么样的抛投感觉。
So it really does come down to what you like the most, what you enjoy casting.
但一般来说，这就是竿子调性的含义，以及它如何影响你最终选择哪根竿子。
But generally, that's what rod action means and how it's gonna inform which rod you end up picking.
最后我们要谈的是线的重量。
And then the last thing that we gotta talk about is line weight.
这就是你的飞蝇竿设计用来抛投的线的粗细。
And this is just the size of line that your fly rod is built to cast.
这个范围从零号，也就是最轻的，到十四号，也就是最重的。
And this ranges from zero weight, which is the lightest, to 14 weight, which is the heaviest.
线号越轻，那款飞线设计用来抛投的飞蝇就越小。
And the lighter the line weight, the smaller the fly that design that fly line is designed to cast.
越往上越重，那款线能处理的飞蝇就越大。
The heavier and heavier you go up, the bigger and bigger flies that line will handle.
五号线，我们卖得最多，我说的我们是指整个飞钓竿行业。
Five weights, we sell and by we, I mean the whole fly rod industry.
我在哪里读到过，大概70%卖出的飞钓竿都是某种五号线，因为它就是个全能的好选择。
I read somewhere, like, 70% of fly rods sold are some kind of five weight because it's just a good do it all weight.
它能应对各种各样的飞蝇。
It can handle a wide variety of flies.
它能抛小型的溪流饵。
It can do small streamers.
它能抛很多干蝇和若虫。
It can do a lot of dry flies and nymphs.
它也能应付一些较重的 nymph 钓组。
It can do some heavier nymph rigs.
这确实是个全能型的线号，能应对很多情况。
It's just a good do it all line size that can handle a lot of that.
但如果你想专门针对干蝇钓组，那可能要考虑四号线。
But if you wanna really dial in a dry fly rig, you're gonna look at maybe going to a four weight.
它稍微轻一点。
It's a little bit lighter.
它主要是为了对付那些更小的干蝇设计的。
It's designed really to handle those smaller dry flies.
如果你想专门玩 streamer，那就升级到七号或八号线。
You wanna do a dedicated streamer rig, bump up to a seven or an eight weight.
那才能真正对付那些更大的假饵。
It's something that's really gonna handle those bigger flies.
然后，显然，随着线号增大，你会得到更硬的竿子，最终是为了对付更大的鱼。
And then, obviously, as you go up higher in line weight, you're gonna end up with rods that are a little bit stiffer, designed for for bigger fish at the end of the day.
所以，这就是所有这些如何配合在一起的。
So that that's all part of how this meshes together.
现在我们有了所有这些信息。
So we got all this information.
我们怎么才能真正理解这些信息呢？
How do we actually make sense out of it?
当我们挑选新的飞钓竿时，怎么利用这些信息来帮助我们呢？
How do we use this to be helpful when we're picking out a new fly rod?
因为我们还在飞钓用品店里，还是有点不知所措。
Because we're still in the fly shop, still a little overwhelmed.
我们懂了一些，但这些信息结合起来会是什么样子呢？
We know a bit, but what does it look like when this comes together?
我们来看几个场景，这样你就能看到这些信息是如何应用到实际生活中的。
Let's run through a couple of scenarios so you can see how this info starts to get applied to actual real life situations.
如果你主要是在中等大小的河流里钓鳟鱼，想用标准尺寸的鱼饵，比如干蝇、若虫、干蝇加若虫的组合，可能还有一些小型的流饵，尺寸大概在十号到八号之间，而且你还想要那种既能钓干蝇又能钓若虫的灵活性，那么根据我们目前所知道的，你可能会想要一根九英尺长的钓竿。
If you are primarily fishing medium sized rivers for trout and you wanna be able to fish your standard sized flies, dry flies, nymphs, dry droppers, maybe some small streamers, like in the size ten, maybe down to an eight range, and you wanna be able, again, to have that versatility to do dry flies and nymphs, then based on everything we know, you're probably gonna want a nine foot rod.
对吧？
K?
它既能给你足够的抛投距离，又能保持精准度。
It's gonna give you the good amount of reach, but you're still gonna have accuracy.
你可能还需要五号或六号线的重量，但我个人倾向于五号，因为对较小的干蝇来说更合适。
You're also gonna probably want a five, maybe a six weight line, but I would probably air on five because it's a little bit better for those smaller dry flies.
因为记住，线号越小，竿子对干蝇的效果就越好，因为线更轻。
Because again, remember, the smaller your line weight goes, the more effective, excuse me, the more effective that rod's gonna be for dry flies because that line has less mass.
它落水时会更轻柔。
It's gonna hit the water more softly.
它展开前导线时也会更轻柔。
It's gonna roll your leaders out more softly.
它能尽可能轻柔、逼真地呈现干蝇。
It's gonna help present those dry flies as delicately and as lifelike as possible.
所以我总是倾向于选轻一点的。
So I always kinda air a little bit lighter.
我特别喜欢钓干蝇，所以我自己就是这么选的。
I love dry fly fishing, so that's why I personally do that.
如果你不打算钓特别小的干蝇，觉得你可能会用到的最小干蝇大概是14号的那种蜉蝣之类的，那六号线可能是个不错的升级选择。
If you don't plan on fishing really tiny dry flies and you think your smallest dry that you're gonna get into is maybe a size fourteen caddies or something like that, a six weight might be a really good step up.
它能帮你更好地应对风。
It'll help you, you know, fight the wind better.
用它也能翻动一些更大的苍蝇和流蝇。
You can turn over some bigger flies and streamers with it.
你甚至可以用六号线去钓钓鲈鱼。
You can even mess around with some bass on a six weight.
我个人如果要经常钓鲈鱼的话，会喜欢升到七号线，但六号线也能搞定。
I personally like bumping up to a seven if I'm gonna do a lot of bass fishing, but you can you can get it done on a six.
所以这些都是你需要权衡的小取舍。
So there's all those little trade offs you gotta make.
但如果你做的是那种我们很多人玩的普通鳟鱼钓法，那九英尺五号线就非常合理了。
But if that's what you are doing, that kind of general trout fishing that a lot of us do in this sport, then nine foot five weight makes a ton of sense.
这真的是基于我们所知道的一切。
That that really is based on everything we know.
那就是适合我们的钓竿。
That's the rod that's gonna work for us.
但如果我们打算去钓鲈鱼，而且主要是在湖里钓鲈鱼呢？
But what if we're gonna go after bass, and we're gonna fish primarily bass in lakes?
也许我们还有一条河，里面有些小口鲈。
Maybe we even got a river that there's some smallmouth in.
我们可以在水流中用波扒钓到一些小口鲈，我还没试过呢。
We can we get some smallies on poppers in the current, which I haven't ever done that.
那是我想去尝试的旅行清单上的项目，因为在大河里看到小口鲈猛咬飞蝇看起来太有趣了。
That's on my bucket list of trips I wanna do because it looks like so much fun to have smallies just crushing flies in a big river like that.
所以假设那是你计划的一部分。
So let's say that's part of your plan.
也许你会想，是的。
And maybe you think, yeah.
我还会用一些下沉线。
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw some sync tip line as well.
我想让这些假饵沉到深处，你知道的，在结构附近钓一些流线饵，试着把那条大嘴鲈鱼引出来。
I wanna get these flies down deep, you know, fish some streamers near some structure, try and lure that big largemouth out.
那时候，五号竿真的不太合适了。
At that point, five weight's really not a good choice anymore.
对吧？
K?
你可能得用六号或七号竿，甚至更大。
You're probably looking at a six or a seven weight, maybe bumping up even more.
那长度呢？
But what about length?
调性呢？
What about action?
什么对你真正有帮助？
What's really gonna help you there?
为了帮你解答这个问题，并且真正应对那些更复杂的情况——不是那种普通的钓鱼，而是更专业一些的——你真的想把装备调好、搭配好，我们特意做了一个免费的飞钓竿选择工具。
Well, to help answer that and to really take those more complex situations where you're not doing stuff that's that's just the average, you're getting a little bit more specialized, you really wanna dial your rig and get that put together, we've actually created this free fly rod finder.
就是一个小问卷，你填一下就行。
It's a little questionnaire that you fill out.
你告诉它你在哪里钓鱼、钓什么鱼、想怎么钓，它就会根据你的具体需求，帮你匹配出最合适的竿子，包括长度、线号和调性。
You tell it where you fish, what you're fishing for, how you wanna fish, and it's gonna match you with the exact right style of rod from length, line weight, and action to your exact fishing needs.
完全免费。
It's completely free.
这只是我们想出来的一个小工具，就是为了简化这个过程，让你选竿的时候不那么纠结。
It's just a little tool we came up with to really simplify this situation and help you help you not feel so overwhelmed at picking a rod.
因为你填完这个工具，你就大概知道自己想要什么了。
Because then you fill this finder out and you know a little bit of what you want.
你懂的东西足够回答那些问题，然后一下子。
You know enough to answer the questions, and then boom.
它就会告诉你，嘿。
It says, hey.
这就是你应该买的。
This is what you should get.
这会最符合你的钓鱼风格。
This is gonna match your style of fishing the best.
所以如果你想看看那个飞钓竿选择工具，节目笔记里有链接，或者如果你在看视频播客，我也会在屏幕上放一个二维码。
So if you wanna take a look at that fly rod finder, there's a link down in the show notes, or I will throw a QR code here on the screen if you're watching the video podcast as well.
你可以去看看。
You wanna take a look at it.
这个工具真的很有用。
It's been a really helpful tool.
很多人都很喜欢用。
A lot of folks have really enjoyed using it.
所以这就是关于飞钓竿的大部分细节，以及它们之间的区别。
So that's that's the bulk of the actual details about fly rods, kinda what separates them from one another.
但现在我们得谈谈我最不想谈的一件事，那就是飞钓竿的价格，因为我觉得没人会同意别人的看法，因为价格太主观了。
But now we gotta talk about the one thing that I hate talking about this, and that's the price of fly rods because no one's ever gonna agree with somebody else's take on it, I think, because price is so subjective.
对吧？
K?
有些人，花一千美元买一根飞钓竿，眼睛都不眨一下。
Some people, they aren't going to bat an eye at dropping a thousand dollars on a fly rod.
对他们来说，这就是做这行的成本。
It's just that's cost to do a business.
而另一些人，就算有钱，也永远不会花一千美元买一根飞钓竿。
Other people wouldn't spend a thousand dollars on a fly rod ever even if they had the money.
这有点像是原则问题。
It's kind of a principle thing.
他们就是不会这么干。
They're they're not gonna do it.
谁的做法都没错。
Nobody's approach is wrong.
这里没有谁对谁错。
Nobody's right or wrong here.
这一点我想一开始就说明白。
I want that right out of the gate.
我唯一想做的就是给你一些背景信息，让你对价格有个大概的了解。
The only thing I'm gonna do is is try and give you some some context so you understand the pricing a little bit.
明白吗？
K?
而且这也是基于我过去十多年的经验。
And this is also coming from I've had the opportunity over the last it's been more than a decade now.
我评测过很多飞钓竿，现在大概快60根了。
I've reviewed a lot of fly rods, probably probably pushing 60 now.
我觉得我评测的飞钓竿比我去过的鸡翅店还多，不过那是另一个话题，我们以后再说。
I I think I've reviewed more fly rods than I have buffalo wing joints, which, you know, that's a whole other venture we'll talk about later.
但我有机会钓过一些非常贵的竿子，那些是我自己根本买不起的。
But I've had the opportunity to fish really expensive rods that I'd never would have been able to buy myself.
你知道，我和一些人一起钓鱼，去的地方远远超出我的收入水平，简直遥不可及。
They're you know, I've fished with people and in places that are so far out of my tax bracket that you you can't even see it from there.
能有这些机会，我真的很幸运，也很感恩，而且那些特别好的飞钓竿确实很棒。
Been very lucky, very blessed to have those opportunities, and some of those really nice fly rods were really nice.
它们都特别高端。
They were all sorts of bougie.
用它们钓鱼的时候，我几乎觉得自己很时髦。
They I almost felt fancy fishing them.
说实话，有些其实挺一般的，我不太喜欢。
Some of them honestly kinda sucked, and I didn't like them.
有些挺让人失望的。
Some of them were pretty underwhelming.
说到底，当你完全诚实的时候，关键就在这里——一个既钓过贵的也钓过便宜的人。
And really what it comes down to when you're completely honest, k, here's someone who's fished expensive and cheap stuff.
它们之间最大的区别是什么？
What's the big difference between them?
首先，最重要的就是品牌。
Well, first and foremost, it's gonna be branding.
对吧？
K?
有些公司会因为品牌而收更高的价格。这就是我们生活的世界。
Some companies are gonna charge more because of who they That's the world we live in.
不管你喜不喜欢，这就是现实。
Like it or not, that's reality.
你可以不参与，但现实就是这样。
You don't have to participate in it, but it's reality.
对吧？
K?
他们还会因为制造这些飞钓竿所用的材料和科技而收更高的价格。
They're also gonna charge more because of the materials and the technology used to make those fly rods.
所以那些非常贵的竿子，是由那些收入很高的竿子工程师打造的，他们花大量心思研究如何让竿子尽可能抗扭，如何利用这种新型石墨和树脂，做出一支既快又有手感的竿子。
So the really expensive ones, these are the rods that are built by rod engineers making significant amount of money to figure out how to make a rod as torsionally stable as possible, how to use this new graphite and this new resin to make a rod that's fast but has some feel to it.
他们做了很多很酷的事情，而且这些人很多都在创新，不断突破极限。
They're doing a lot of really cool stuff, and a lot of these guys are are innovating and pushing the envelope.
这对我们来说挺好的，因为最终这些技术会下放到平价竿上，这就是为什么现在平价竿是史上最好的，因为过去二三十年里创新太多了，那些好技术现在也买得起了。
And that works out well for us because eventually that tech trickles down to the budget rods, And that's why the rods that are in the budget category right now, the best budget rods ever, because we've had so much innovation in the last twenty or thirty years that that really good tech is affordable now.
但这也是其中的一部分。
But that that's part of it.
技术，那是要花钱的。
The tech, that's gonna cost you some money.
然后他们还会用那种特别高级的软木、稀有的木材来做轮座镶嵌。
And then they're gonna use, you know, really fancy cork, exotic wood for the real seat inserts.
他们还会用超轻的配件，所有那些花哨的东西，把竿子打扮得漂漂亮亮的，看起来越高级越好。
They're gonna use ultralight hardware, all that fancy stuff to really dress the rod up, make it look as bougie as possible.
你得为这些多花钱，就像买卡车要选高级内饰一样。
And you're gonna pay a premium for that just like you would for premium trim on a truck.
对吧？
K?
回到我们节目早些时候提到的塔科马例子。
Go back to our Tacoma example from earlier in the show.
塔科马和那个限量版之间真的有那么大差别吗？那个限量版大概七万美元，而基础版是SR5？
Is there really that much of a difference between the Tacoma and the limited trim that's, like, $70 versus the base model s r five?
它们都是卡车。
They're both trucks.
它们都有四轮驱动。
They both got four wheel drive.
而且在某些情况下，那个基础版的后轴齿轮比反而更好，这让它在爬陡峭的越野路时更厉害。
And in some cases, that base model's actually got a better rear axle gear ratio that makes it way more adept climbing really steep off road tracks.
我知道这个是因为我有一辆基础版，齿轮比是4.12，而其他的都是3.93或者3.83的后轴。
And I know that because I had a base model, the four twelve, and all the others had three ninety threes or three eighty threes in the rears.
所以如果你是懂车的人，你会明白这个。
So if you're a car person, you'll understand that.
但重点是，有时候那些便宜的东西在某些方面确实比贵的竿子做得更好。
But point being, sometimes those cheaper stuff do certain things better than the expensive rods.
对吧？
K?
所以，价格差异的关键就在这里。
So that that's really what it comes down to with the price.
明白吗？
K?
如果你想要最新最好的，而且你是那种追求极致的人，那就去买吧。
If you want the latest and greatest and you're the kind of person who wants the absolute best, go ahead and buy it.
这种想法没什么不对。
Nothing wrong with that approach.
如果你不是那种人，那也没什么不对。
If you're the kind of person who doesn't, nothing wrong with that approach either.
你会看到性能上的差异。
There are performance differences you're gonna see.
你确实会看到。
You you will see that.
在我看来，便宜和贵的杆子最大的区别就是重量。
The biggest difference that I see between the cheap and the expensive rods is how light they are.
对吧？
K?
贵的鱼竿真的非常非常轻。
The the expensive rods are really, really light.
你几乎感觉不到手里拿着飞钓竿，而且它们非常有力。
You almost don't even feel like you got a fly rod in your hand, and they're very they're very powerful.
我还会说，它们确实很有劲，但不会让你觉得像是在挥扫帚柄。
I I would also say they they pack quite a bit of a punch, They don't do it in a way that feels like you're casting a broomstick.
所以它们确实有一些性能上的优势。
So so they do have they do have a little bit of performance going for them.
但另一方面，你买了那根贵的竿子，也不会突然变成更厉害的钓手或抛投高手。
But at the same same side of that coin is you aren't going to be a magically better angler, better caster if you buy that expensive stick.
你还是得知道怎么用它。
You still have to know how to use it.
对吧？
K?
这就像给一个16岁的孩子兰博基尼的钥匙，而不是凯美瑞的。
It's like giving a 16 year old keys to a Lamborghini instead of the Camry.
对吧？
K?
他知道怎么开兰博基尼吗？
Does he know how to drive the Lamborghini?
他知道怎么把它发挥到极致吗？
Does he know how to get the most out of it?
他开起来会看起来很酷。
He's gonna look really cool doing it.
对吧？
K?
学校里的每个人都想和他做朋友，而且他可能会因此惹上一些麻烦。
Everyone at school is gonna wanna be his friend, and he's probably gonna get in some trouble with it.
开凯美瑞的孩子，照样能从A点到B点，和开兰博基尼的孩子一样。
Kid in the Camry, still gonna get point a, point b, just the same as a kid in the Lamborghini.
其实，开凯美瑞的小孩可能不会出车祸，也不会吃罚单。
In fact, kid in the Camry is probably not gonna crash or get a ticket.
开兰博基尼的小孩，谁知道他会出什么事呢？
Kid in the Lamborghini, you know, who knows what's gonna happen to him?
所以，这确实就是看待这件事的同一个角度。
So it it really is that same sorta sorta way to look at it.
但说到底，就是搞清楚你想花多少钱，想在这根竿子上砸多少现金，然后就花那么多。
But, really, just figure out what budget you wanna spend, how much cash you wanna drop on a rod, and spend that.
对吧？
K?
我个人觉得，如果我现在要买一根竿子，而不是用我们VFC这里的竿子，我会考虑至少花200美元。
My personal two cents, if I was gonna buy a rod right now instead of using the rods that we have here at VFC, I would be looking to spend at least $200.
因为根据我的经验，低于200美元这个价位的竿子，有些确实很不错。
Because in my experience, the rods below that $200 price point, some of them can be really good.
我钓过的最喜欢的竿子里，有些才180美元。
Some of my favorite rods I've ever fished were a $180.
但我也钓过很多烂竿子，很多抗扭性不行，特别重，手感也不好，真的会影响你学抛投和享受飞钓。
But I've also fished a lot of clunkers, a lot that were not torsionally stable, that were really heavy, that didn't have feel, that really were an impediment to learning how to cast and to enjoying fly fishing.
对吧？
K?
200美元以下的竿子，好坏真的很难说，赌的成分很大。
There the gamble on whether it's a good rod or not below $200 is pretty high.
但一旦到了200美元，根据我的经验，情况就开始不一样了。
But once you hit 200, in my experience, that's where things really start to turn.
你会看到更好的竿子，而且 consistently 更好的竿子，还都很轻。
You see better rods and consistently better rods that are light.
它们抗扭性很好。
They're torsionally stable.
它们很灵敏，你能感觉到抛投的节奏。
They're sensitive so you can feel your casting.
它们会适合你的。
They're they're gonna work for you.
这又是我个人的经验。
That's, again, my experience.
我不是在告诉你必须这么做。
I'm not telling you that this is what you gotta do.
这只是我十多年评测和钓鱼竿的经验，如果我要花钱，我会从大约200美元这个价位开始往上选。
Just my experience over a decade plus of reviewing and fishing rods, I would be spending my cash at about that 200 price point and then up.
我可能会多花一点钱，因为我是那种喜欢一次买好、不再后悔的人，我想要一根能陪我成长、耐用、可以传给孩子的竿子，就像传家宝一样。
I'd probably be spending a little bit more than that because I'm I'm one of those people I like to buy once, cry once, and I want a rod that's gonna grow with me, that it's gonna last, kinda be an heirloom type thing I could pass down to my kids.
这只是我个人购买很多装备时的方式。
That that's just my how I approach a lot of the gear that I buy personally.
所以如果我要买竿子，我会考虑这些。
So that's what I'd be be looking at if I was buying rods.
说到我们这里的VFC竿子，其实就在几周前。
But speaking of those VFC rods, the rods we have here, we actually just it was a few weeks ago.
我们刚刚终于完成了组装。
We just finally finished up building.
我们最后一批管件到了，但我们在VFC这里有三根全新的飞钓竿。
We got our last shipment of the tubes in, but we've got three brand new fly rods here at VFC.
它们和其他装备遵循同样的理念，对吧，我们试图让钓竿让选竿过程更简单，这样你就能真正得到你需要的，以实现你在水上的目标。
And they're following the same ethos as all the other gear, right, where we tried to make rods that that made the rod selection process simpler so that you're actually getting what you need to to accomplish your goals on the water.
你不是只是去飞钓店，递上信用卡，然后希望一切顺利，因为我们都经历过，那是个有点可怕的情况。
You're not just going to the fly shop and handing over your credit card and hoping for the best because we've all been there, and it's a kind of a scary place to be.
你会花很多钱，而且你不确定，比如，这真的是我需要的吗，还是这家伙只是拿大提成？
You're gonna spend a lot of money, and you're you're not sure, like, is this really what I need, or is this guy just getting a big commission on it?
你知道吗？
You know?
所以我们真的仔细思考了如何简化它？
So we really thought through how do we simplify it?
我们怎么让它，你知道，像我们的入门套装、飞行系列或三件套那样？
How do we make this, you know, like our starter packs or our flight collections or our three packs?
我们怎么让这个容易搞清楚，简单，然后仍然非常实用，仍然适合任何水平的钓鱼者？
How do we make this easy to figure out and and simple and then still really functional and and still really usable for for any level of angler?
最后我们设计出来的竿子都是围绕单一用途来打造的，这样你一旦决定，比如想组建一套干蝇钓的装备，或者你心里想，你知道吗？
And we ended up just designing rods that are built around a single purpose so that you once you decide, yeah, I wanna build out my drive fly setup, or you know what?
是时候升级一下了，可能想要更快的竿子。
It's time for a more upgraded maybe a little faster.
也许我想要一根五号竿，更有劲一些，或者我想要一根专门钓溪流鱼的竿子。
Maybe I want a a five way that's got a bit more oomph to it, or maybe I want a streamer stick.
这就是我们设计这些竿子的核心理念。
That that's that's what we really tried to to build these around.
我举个例子吧。
So I'll just give you an example.
我们的Riser，是八英尺半的四号竿。
Our riser, it's our eight and a half foot four weight.
一听就知道，竿子短一些，所以抛投会更精准。
So automatically, you can tell that's shorter, so it's gonna be a bit more accurate.
四号线，线更轻，这就是我们的干蝇竿。
Four weight, lighter line, So that's our dry fly rod.
这根竿子就是我们为了让你有好的干蝇体验而做的。
That's the stick we built to give you a good dry fly experience.
适合一些小型的干蝇加沉蝇组合，但主要还是针对鱼和干蝇调校的。
Some smaller dry dropper stuff, but really tuned in for fish and dry flies.
然后就是Fly Flinger Pro，我们把它做成了Fly Flinger的快动作升级版。我最近一直在用Pro钓鱼，它现在可能是我第二喜欢的竿子。
And then you go to the Fly Flinger Pro, and we put this one together as the sort of fast action upgraded version of the Fly Flinger, which we've really I I've been fishing the Pro a ton, and it's probably my second favorite rod right now.
我一会儿告诉你我最喜欢的是哪根。
I'll tell you my first favorite in a minute.
但它就是稍微快一点，所以抗风性更好。
But it it's just a little bit faster, so it's gonna handle the wind better.
扭转稳定性也更强，所以会更精准。
Bit more torsionally stable, so it's gonna be a bit more accurate.
不过我真的喜欢它，因为它有更强的提竿力量，需要的时候你能轻松转身拉鱼。
But I I really like it's got a bit more lifting power, so you can really turn and move fish when you need to.
而且因为它动作更快，所以处理大一点的钓组也会更好一些。
And then it does handle, you know, bigger rigs a little bit better because it's a little faster action rod.
所以这就是Fly Flinger Pro。
So that's the Fly Flinger Pro.
然后我们推出了Bug Bomber，这是我们的九英尺六号线。
And then we went with the Bug Bomber, which is our nine foot six weight.
那就是，你知道，九英尺。
And that's, you know, nine foot.
好。
K.
我们试图用六号线抛得更远，用更大的飞蝇。
We're we're trying to reach out there six weight, bigger flies.
沉头线、streamers、大号hopper dropper组合、大号 nymph 组合。
Sink tips, streamers, big hopper dropper rigs, big nymph rigs.
试着把所有这些结合起来。
Try to put all that together.
再说一遍，整个目标就是，你想做什么？
And again, the whole goal was, what are you trying to do?
那么，这就是你想要的解决方案。
Well, here's the solution to what you're trying to do.
而且，这大大简化了整个过程。
And, that that simplifies the process quite a bit.
我们确实会赠送所有这些鱼竿。
We do give all these rods away.
它们有两个竿梢。
They've got two tips.
嗯，我们不是赠送的。
Well, we don't give them.
我们是卖的。
We sell them.
但我们确实会给你两个竿梢。
But we we give you two tip sections.
所以如果你弄断了一个竿梢，你也不用停止钓鱼。
So if you break a tip section, you don't have to quit fishing.
而且它们都带有我们的VFC保修，如果存在制造缺陷，我们会帮你处理好。
And then they do come with our VFC warranty, which is if there's a manufacturing defect, we will get you taken care of.
不会让你花一分钱。
It's not gonna cost you anything.
我们会尽快给你换一根新竿，让你满意。
We will get you a new rod and get you squared away as soon as we can.
如果你把竿弄断了，比如夹在车门里，或者你气急了把它扔到湖中央，或者你和朋友拿它当剑玩，或者你的孩子也这么干，不管什么原因弄断了竿，我们都会收取固定费用来更换损坏的那一节，而且我们尽量在一到两个工作日内发货，这样你就不用等太久了。
If you break the rod, if you slam in a car door, if you get really mad and you chuck it out into the middle of the lake, if you try to play, like, swords with it or something with your buddies or if your kids try to do that, whatever it is that happens, if you break the rod, we'll replace that broken section for a flat fee, and we try to ship those broken sections out within, like, one to two business days so you're not waiting forever.
你不需要把它寄给我们。
Don't You have to send it to us.
只要告诉我们一声就行。
Just gotta let us know, hey.
比如我弄断了竿的第三节。
I broke the third section of the rod.
我们会帮你搞定的。
We'll get you taken care of.
这就是我们鱼竿的VFC保修。
But that's the VFC warranty that we've got with the rods as well.
我会把鱼竿链接放在节目说明里，或者屏幕上的二维码里。
So I will link the rods down in the show notes or here on the screen in the QR code.
如果你想看看我们做了什么，再说一次，我们的目标就是让飞钓竿的选择过程更简单，这样你就不会感到不知所措。
If you wanna take a look at what we've done and, again, the whole goal was how can we we make the fly rod selection process easier so you don't feel overwhelmed?
你掌握了所有这些信息，现在你知道，对，这就是我想要的。
You've got all this information, and now you know, yeah, this is what I want.
搞定。
Boom.
这里有一根匹配的鱼竿。
Here's a rod that matches it.
你不需要在一系列里挑18根不同的鱼竿。
You're not picking through 18 different rods in one family.
你只需要决定。
You're trying to decide it.
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就是这样，干脆利落。
It's just boom.
这是你的干蝇竿。
Here's your dry fly rod.
这是你的毛钩竿。
Here's your streamer rod.
希望这样简单明了。
Hopefully, it's simple.
我之前说过，Fly Flinger Pro 是我目前第二喜欢的竿子。
Then I know I said, Fly Flinger Pro is my second favorite rod right now.
我最喜欢的，其实我和 Alex 刚结束了一次小旅行。
My first favorite, Alex and I actually just got back from a little trip.
我们去了加拿大钓湖鳟和狗鱼，还带了一些样品竿。
We went up to Canada to fish for lake trout and pike, and we took some prototypes with us.
我们带了一根七号和一根八号的。
We took a seven weight and an eight weight.
我们带的那根八号竿，天哪。
And the eight weight that we took with us, oh, boy.
我很喜欢，虽然我不会像用Fly Flinger Pro那样频繁用它，但那根竿真的超好玩。
I love I I'm not gonna use it as much as the Fly Flinger Pro, but that thing was so much fun.
我简直不敢相信我有多享受用那根竿钓鱼。
I couldn't believe how much I enjoyed fishing that rod.
我其实带了我一根旧八号竿，那是我几年前评测过的一根一千美元的飞钓竿，我拿它跟这根原型八号竿一起钓。
I actually took one of my older eight weights that was thousand dollar fly rod that I got to review years ago, and I fished that next to this prototype eight weight.
我觉得我更喜欢新竿一点。
I think I like the new one a little bit better.
说实话。
I'm not gonna lie.
真的挺有意思的。
It was pretty fun.
所以那些竿子，我们希望能很快推出。
So those will be we'll hopefully be dropping those soon.
具体什么时候我也不太确定。
I'm not sure sure when.
不过，还是希望这些对你们有帮助。
But, again, hopefully, this is helpful for you guys.
希望我们解答了很多关于飞钓竿的问题。
Hopefully, we answered a lot of fly rod questions.
如果你们还有更多问题，别犹豫。
If you've got any more, don't hesitate.
在评论区留言吧。
Drop those down in the comments.
告诉我们。
Let us know.
我很乐意继续帮你们。
I'd love to help you out even more.
那接下来，我们进入本周节目的问答环节，因为在Untangled，我们每周都会花一半的时间直接回答你们的问题。
But with that, we are gonna move on to the q and a portion of this week's episode because every week here at Untangled, we spend half the show directly answering your questions.
所以，如果你有飞钓的问题想得到解答，可以在节目说明里找到提交问题的链接，或者如果你在看视频播客的话，也可以直接点击屏幕上的链接。
So if you've got a fly fishing question that you would like answered, there's a link to send those in down in the show notes or right here on the screen if you're watching the video podcast.
来自南卡罗来纳的Ron提出了我们的第一个问题，他写道：Spencer，我非常喜欢Ventures Fly Co的一切。
Ron from South Carolina has our first question, writes in and says, Spencer, I love everything about Ventures Fly Co.
感谢你们让我如此精彩地进入了飞钓的世界。
Thank you all for an awesome entry into fly fishing.
我喜欢你们的产品、教程和播客。
Love your products, tutorials, and podcasts.
这是我的问题。
Here's my question.
你们最近支持Trout Routes这个应用，我觉得挺有意思的。
I was amused by your recent support of Trout Routes, the app.
我也在用这个应用，觉得它非常有用。
I use it and think it is very useful.
说到这个，你们有没有用过像ChatGPT这样的人工智能平台来研究钓鱼的机会呢？
That being said, have you used AI platforms such as ChatGPT to research fishing opportunities?
你对人工智能和鳟鱼钓鱼有什么看法？
What are your thoughts on AI and trout fishing?
罗恩，谢谢你的美言。
Ron, thanks for the kind words.
非常感谢，兄弟。
Appreciate it, man.
这个问题挺有意思的。
This is a pretty interesting question.
如果有人想知道我们为什么支持罗恩提到的Trout Routes应用，我在一个半月前的节目里说过，我之前对飞钓应用的态度是错的，我以前很讨厌它们。
For anyone wondering about the Trout Routes app that Ron was mentioning our support of it, I did a show month month and a half ago now talking about how I was wrong about fly fishing apps, how I I used to hate them.
我以前就是反对应用。
I used to just be anti app.
今年早些时候，我有机会见到了TROUTROUTES的几位成员，并使用了他们的应用，我之前从没用过。
And earlier this year, had the chance to actually meet some of the TROUTROUTES guys and use their app, which I'd never used it.
我一直对它嗤之以鼻，却从没用过它。
I hated on it forever, and I never used it.
其实我用了，而且它跟社交媒体一点关系都没有。
Actually used it, and there was no social media component to it.
我没法一边用一边告诉所有人我在哪里钓鱼。
I couldn't hotspot and tell everybody where I was fishing.
它真的就是告诉你船坡道在哪、公共和私人土地在哪、河流流量数据，还有这条河段里有什么鱼。
It was literally just, here's the boat ramps, here's the public and private land, here is the stream flow data, and then here is what fish are in this stretch of the river.
这些信息其实网上早就都有了。
It was just information that all that information's already online.
对，就是这样。
It's there.
你只是需要在五六个应用或网站之间来回切换才能找到所有信息。
You just have to bounce between, like, five or six apps to find it or five or six websites to find it all.
所以没什么秘密。
So there's nothing secret.
里面没什么新鲜东西。
There's nothing new in there.
其实就是已经存在的信息，只是集中在一个地方而已。
It's just stuff that already exists, but it's in one place.
尤其是那个公共和私人土地的地图，对我帮助特别大，特别是在怀俄明州生活的时候，我必须清楚自己在哪里，因为这是我的责任，而且地主不需要挂牌标明他们的土地。
And especially the public and private land map, that was really helpful for me, especially living in Wyoming where I've got an I've gotta know where I am because it's my responsibility, and landowners don't have to post their land.
所以我必须确保自己一直在公共土地上，或者已经得到许可。
So I've gotta make sure I'm always on public land or I've got permission.
所以从这个角度来看，它真的很有用。
So it was really helpful from that perspective.
我对它的看法也改变了一些。
And I kinda changed my tune about it.
我说，对。
I said, yeah.
你知道，它并没有我想象的那么糟糕。
You know, it's it's not the evil I thought it was.
我仍然不觉得我之前对钓鱼应用的看法是错的。
I'm still not like I I was wrong about fly fishing apps.
我还是不确定它们对行业是不是净好处，因为我觉得我不想让我们失去那种自己出去探索、发现和冒险的精神。
I still don't know if they're a net positive for the industry because I think I I don't want us to lose the adventure spirit of going out and finding and exploring on our own.
我不想让我们变得依赖这些应用，因为我觉得那样总的来说不好，当我们失去探索和冒险的欲望时。
I don't want us to become dependent on apps for that because I think that I think that's just bad in general when we lose that desire to explore into adventure.
但如果它是补充性的、有帮助的，那你就去看看吧。
But if it's something that's supplemental and helpful, then, you know, go ahead and take a look at it.
如果你对Trout Routes感到好奇，他们确实为Untangled的听众提供了一个优惠，你可以免费获得一个月的专业版访问权限。
And if if you're just curious about Trout Routes at all, they actually do have a deal going for Untangled listeners where you get a free month of the pro access on the app.
你可以看到所有功能。
You get to see all the features.
所以如果你想看看并试用那个免费月，节目说明里有个链接，或者我会在屏幕上放一个二维码。
So if you want to give that a look and try out that free month, there's a link down in the show notes, or I'll throw a QR code here on the screen.
如果你想看看，也许你会像我一样改变想法，也许不会。
If you wanna take a look at it and see maybe you'll change your mind as well like I did or maybe you won't.
那也没关系。
That's fine.
但如果你想看看，它就在那里。
But if you wanna take a look at it, it's there.
至于这个问题中关于AI的部分，你知道，我现在挺反AI的，因为我确实担心它会活过来然后统治世界。
Now as far as the AI part of this question, you know, I'm pretty anti AI these days because I do worry about it coming to life and taking over the world.
我看过那部纪录片《终结者》。
I've seen that documentary Terminator.
我知道会发生什么。
I know what can happen.
对AI保持警惕是有正当理由的，尤其是在环境方面，比如水资源消耗、土地占用，还有那些不断建起来的数据中心。
There there's legitimate reasons to be leery of AI, especially on the environmental side, the water consumption, the land consumption, all these data centers going up.
感觉像是先建了再说，问题以后才问。
Seems like there's building first and asking questions later.
这是一个非常令人担忧的发展。
That's a very troubling development.
所以有很多正当理由去审视它，不喜欢它，也不信任它。
So there's a lot of legitimate reasons to look at it and to not like it and not trust it.
话虽这么说，我平时用得也不多，一般就是用来整理整理、总结一下那些以前要花不少时间的琐碎活儿。
You know, with all that being said, I do use it in a very limited capacity day to day, usually just for, you know, organizing, summarizing some of that busy work that used to take a while.
我把一部分活儿交给它了。
I I I've offloaded some of that onto it.
当然不是那些创意性的东西，就是一些杂事。
Not any of the creative stuff, obviously, but just some of the busy work.
而且我用的频率比我那些哥们儿低多了。
And, you know, I use it a lot less than some of my buddies do.
其实我也从来没想过用它来规划旅行，因为我知道它给的信息也可能不准。
And I've actually never thought about using it to plan a trip either because I know that the information it gets can still be wrong.
我觉得等我写好提示词，告诉它我想知道什么，我自己早就找到答案了。
And I feel like by the time I put a prompt together that tells me what I want to know, I could have just gone and found the information myself.
所以我还是自己来，我这人挺固执的。
So I I still do that, and I'm I'm still pretty stuck in my ways too.
我是说，我当初接受短信也花了老长时间。
I'm I mean, it took me forever to to adopt texting too.
就是，我挺固执己见的。
Like, I I'm pretty stuck in my ways.
你可以问亚历克斯。
You can even ask Alex.
他快被他逼疯了。
He drives him nuts.
他讨厌打电话，而我总是给他打电话，因为我讨厌发短信。
He hates phone calls, and I call him all the time because I hate texting.
所以，你知道，我还是那样。
So, you know, I'm I'm still kinda that way.
但是，你知道，我只是想确定我能信任这些信息，不用自己再去核实、翻找。
But, you know, I I just I wanna know that I can trust the information, don't have to really verify to go through and dig through things on my own.
你知道，如果我让ChatGPT给我一个我在的河边的钓鱼点，它找到了一个，但那是十年前的，还告诉我是最新的。
You know, if if I ask Chad GPT to give me a a fishermen port for a river that I'm on, and it goes and it find one, but it's from ten years ago and tells me that it's current.
你知道，我怎么知道该信它，而不是自己去查呢？
You know, how do I know how do I trust that versus if I go and find it myself?
我就是觉得，它还是不够可靠，所以我不会完全用它来做这些事。
I I just there's still enough that I'm not trustworthy on it that I'm not necessarily gonna use it that way.
但亚历克斯确实用了。
But Alex actually did.
他和妻子去冰岛庆祝结婚十周年，在那儿钓了会儿鱼，他确实用它来帮忙规划了。
He and his wife went to Iceland for their tenth anniversary, did a little fishing while they were there, and he actually used it to help him plan.
我这里还有他留的笔记。
And I've got a note here from him.
他说他稍微规划了一下行程。
He said he planned the trip a little bit.
他说从后勤角度看，它很有帮助，比如住哪儿、怎么到水边、备用计划，但最后还是得自己去探索，它不会帮你抛竿。
He said it was very helpful from a logistics perspective on where to stay, how to get to the water, backup plans, but then I still had to go out there and explore, and it didn't cast.
它也不会帮我选鱼饵。
It didn't pick my flies for me.
所以从这个角度来说，他觉得它很有用，就是能说，我要去这个区域。
So in that sense, he found it really helpful to just sort of say, I'm gonna be in this region.
我会有一定的时间去钓鱼。
I'm gonna have x amount of time to fish.
我有哪些选择？
What are my options?
这就是我想做的。
This is what I wanna do.
而且显然对他来说效果很好。
And it apparently worked out well for him.
而且他以前有过一次非常好的旅行。
And and he used to had a really good trip.
所以，你知道，我个人不认为我会用那么多AI，尤其是不会用它来计划钓鱼之旅。
So, you know, I personally I don't think I'm ever gonna use AI that much, especially not to plan a fishing trip.
这不是我的风格。
It's just not not what I do.
我不认为这有什么本质上的问题。
I I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with it.
我只想说，从它那里得到的信息最好再核实一下，确保准确，特别是涉及土地所有权的时候。
I would just say double check the info you get from it to make sure it's correct, especially where land ownership is concerned.
那总是个模糊地带。
It's always a murky area.
所以这就是我的一点小看法。
So that's just my 2¢ on it.
不过问得好。
But good question.
谢谢你的来信。
Thanks for sending it in.
很感激。
Appreciate it.
来自挪威的马格努斯提出了下一个问题，他写道：我能用干蝇、流蝇甚至大老鼠图案钓到褐鳟，但不知为何，用若虫钓就特别费劲。
Magnus from Norway has our next question, writes in and says, I can catch brown trout on dry fly streamers and even big mouse patterns, but for some reason, I really struggle to catch them on nymphs.
我觉得我把若虫放到了水柱的正确位置，选了合理的图案，而且看起来也像是很好的自然漂流，但就是几乎没鱼咬钩。
I believe I'm getting my nymphs into the right part of the water column, choosing reasonable patterns, and getting what looks to me like a good dead drift, but I still get almost no takes.
你觉得我可能漏掉了什么？
What do you think I might be missing?
是不是有什么新手在钓 nymph 时常犯的错误，我自己都没意识到？或者是我在 nymph 还没到鱼跟前之前就把鱼吓跑了？
Is there a common beginner mistake in nymphing that I may not even realize I'm making, or could I be spooking the fish before my nymph ever reaches them?
好，Magnus，其实很简单。
Well, Magnus, real simple.
关键就在于深度。
It's all about depth.
你说你觉得你把 nymph 放到了水柱的正确位置。
You said that you think you're getting to the right part of the water column.
如果你钓不到鱼，那就很明显说明你很可能放得不够深。
If you're not catching fish, that is a dead giveaway that you're probably not deep enough.
对吧？
K?
这绝对是我在带钓时看到的问题，也是我们在这里 VFC 有机会聊到的所有新钓友都会遇到的问题，还有我们亲自教过钓鱼的新手，最大的绊脚石就是你的 flies 放得不够深。
That that is far and away the issue that I saw when I was guiding that we hear from all the new anglers that we have the opportunity to chat with and get to know here at VFC, the new people that we've taught to fish personally, the biggest stumbling block with nymphing is you're not getting those flies deep enough.
如果它们不够深，就不会出现在鱼面前。
And if they're not deep enough, they're not in front of fish.
如果你不把鱼饵放到鱼面前，让它们看起来很真实，那你真的很难钓到鱼。
And if you don't put your flies in front of fish and make them look real, you're gonna have a really hard time catching fish.
这有点像去鸡翅大会，却一直点无骨鸡翅。
It's kinda like going to a a wing convention and asking for boneless wings the whole time.
这样是行不通的。
It's not gonna work out.
大家会用奇怪的眼神看你。
People are gonna look at you funny.
就像，这个家伙在这儿搞什么鬼？
Like, what's this what's this clown doing here?
要么带骨，要么拉倒，兄弟。
It's bone in or bust, buddy.
所以这其实是同一个道理，虽然不完全一样。
So it's the same same not really the same concept.
我就是想再讲一个鸡翅的笑话。
I just needed another wing joke.
我有指标要完成，所以得把它塞进去。
I've got a quota I have to hit, so I I had to squeeze it in there.
对不起。
I'm sorry.
我道歉。
I I apologize.
但让我举个例子，把这一点说得更清楚。
But let me give you an example just to illustrate this point even more.
我在外面钓鱼。
I'm out fishing.
我记得是今年二月。
I think it was February this year.
我和我的哥们吉恩、斯科特在外面钓鱼。
I'm out fishing my buddy, Gene, and my buddy, Scott.
斯科特是个玩 nymphing 的高手。
And Scott's a nymphing machine.
那家伙把这一套玩得特别溜。
Dude dude has that stuff dialed.
他完全摸透了。
He's got it figured out.
我们当时在漂流船上。
And we're in the drift boat.
吉恩在划船。
Gene's rowing.
斯科特在船尾。
Scott's in the back.
我在船头。
I'm in the front.
斯科特一开始就钓到了大鱼。
And Scott starts catching big fish right out of the gate.
他先捞了一条大概21英寸的虹鳟，然后又捞了一条20英寸的。
Puts like a 21 inch rainbow in the net, and then he puts like a 20 inch rainbow in the net.
接着他又钓到了一条。
And then he catches another one.
那条虽然没那么长，但很肥。
It wasn't as long, but it was fat.
形状像橄榄球一样，而我却一条都没钓到。
It was shaped like a football, and I'm getting nothing.
同样的水域，同样的鱼饵，我却一无所获。
Drifting same water, same flies, nothing.
钓了三四条鱼之后，我看了看他的钓组。
And I look at his rig for a sec after, like, the third or fourth fish.
他的钓组上有两个小铅坠。
It he had two small split shot on his rig.
我一个都没放。
I didn't have any.
我当时只是用重一点的飞蝇，以为这样就能沉到足够深的地方。
I was just fishing heavy flies, thinking that would get me down deep enough.
所以我在钓组上加了两颗小咬铅。
So I put two small split shot on my rig.
我们漂到下一个深潭。
We drift to the next hole.
砰。
Boom.
我开始上鱼了。
I start catching fish.
那天剩下的时间，我们开始轮流上鱼。
And the rest of the day, we started trading fish off.
就那一点点调整，稍微加深一点，砰。
That tiny little adjustment of just a little bit more depth, boom.
那就是我需要的全部，我就开始上鱼了，因为它们不会往上游。
That was all I needed, and I was into the fish because they weren't gonna move up.
它们不会移动，也不会费劲去抓或吃那些苍蝇。
They weren't going to move and to make the effort to catch or to to eat those flies.
所以，让苍蝇沉到它们面前，真的带来了很大的不同。
So it was really something that getting them down in front of them made all the difference.
所以，如果你钓不到鱼，几乎可以肯定是因为你钓得不够深。
So if you're not catching fish, it's almost certainly because you're not deep enough.
明白吗？
K?
然后亚历克斯，他关于这个有比我更多的故事。
And then Alex, he's got more stories than I do about this.
他是，你知道，我经常说把苍蝇放在鱼面前，让它们看起来真实。
He's this is his you know, I'm on that I I talk a lot about put flies in front of fish, make them look real.
就像，那是我的重点。
Like, that's my big thing.
亚历克斯会说，深度才是王道。
Alex is like, depth is king.
那是他的主打理念。
That's his big thing.
我记得那是两年前的冬天。
And we were out I think it was two winters ago now.
我们一起出去钓鱼。
We're out fishing together.
玩得很开心。
Great time.
我们钓到了一些不错的鱼，但没钓到大的。
And we caught some nice fish, but we hadn't caught anything big.
快到一天结束的时候了。
And it's getting towards the end of the day.
又是二月。
It was February again.
天开始有点冷了。
It was starting to get kinda cold.
我们知道很快就得走了。
We knew we were gonna have to leave soon.
亚历克斯在那片小水域钓鱼。
And Alex is fishing this little bit of water.
那地方看起来特别有鱼。
It looked really fishy.
中间有个缝隙，里面有块石头。
It's this kinda slot out in the middle where there's this rock.
石头后面形成了一个水窝，然后水流冲下去，形成了一段二三十码长的急流。
It creates kind of a bucket behind it that dumps off into this this run that was, like, 20 or 30 yards long.
他就在那儿钓。
And he was fishing it.
你一眼就能看出里面肯定有鱼。
You could just tell there had to be fish in it.
那地方看着特别好，但他一直没咬钩。
It looked so good, but he wasn't getting any bites.
他加了咬铅。
And he had split shot on.
他用了大飞蝇，但还是觉得不够深。
He had big flies on, but he still didn't feel like he was getting down deep enough.
所以他就把线抛得更远，超过那段水流，然后在上游做了很多次线弧调整。
So what he did is he throws a cast even further above this run and then throws a whole bunch of upstream mends into it.
这样一来，钓组就慢下来了，飞蝇有时间下沉，正好在进入那段水流时达到那个深度。
And what that did is it slowed the rig down and gave time for those flies to drop and be at that depth right as they hit the run.
他刚做了这个小调整，让飞蝇尽可能深，马上就钓到了一条两英尺长的正宗棕鳟。
And as soon as he does that, he makes that tiny little change, gets those flies as deep as he possibly can, he hooks into a legitimate two foot brown trout.
二月中旬，二十四英寸的金色黄油。
24 inches of golden butter in the middle of February.
我见过的最漂亮的鱼之一。
One of the prettiest fish I've ever seen.
我见过的最好看的棕鳟之一。
One of the nicest looking brown trout I've ever seen.
全都是因为他做了一个微小的深度调整。
All because he made a tiny depth adjustment.
我们说的可能就一英寸，就这点差别，然后那条鱼就咬钩了。
We're we're talking maybe an inch, and that's all it took, and then that fish ate.
顺便问一下，他是不是用了一个十六号的沃尔特蠕虫？
Did he eat a walt's worm, by the way, like a size sixteen?
所以我们甚至都没在钓大毛钩或者什么的。
So what we weren't even fishing big streamers or anything.
用了一个十六号的沃尔特蠕虫。
Heat a walt's worm, size sixteen.
所以深度很重要。
So depth matters.
明白吗？
K?
别忽视这一点。
Do not overlook that.
要潜得深。
Get down deep.
先一直沉到底。
Get all the way to the bottom first.
加配重。
Put weight on.
加长你的钓组。
Lengthen your rig.
不管用什么办法。
Whatever you gotta do.
如果你每次漂流都挂底，那就是太深了。
And if you're consistently snagging on every single drift, you're too deep.
你应该让饵贴着水底弹跳。
You wanna be kinda bouncing along the bottom.
你应该看到浮漂在轻轻点动。
You wanna see your indicator ticking.
你可能每漂个六七次就会挂一次底。
You wanna catch bottom maybe every six or seven drifts or so.
这说明你的深度正好，已经够深了。
That tells you you're right down as deep as you need to be.
如果从来没挂过底，那就是不够深。
If you're not ever catching bottom, you're not deep enough.
所以这就是我会做的。
So that's what I would do.
这是我的建议，希望能帮到你。
That's my recommendation, and hopefully it helps.
非常感谢。
Thanks a bunch.
很感激。
Appreciate it.
来自加拿大的下一位提问者写道：自从改用无倒刺钩后，我发现很多鱼在刚中钩后的那个尴尬阶段跑掉了，那时候因为漂钓时收线，卷线器外面有一大截线。
From Canada has our next question, writes in and says, since switching to barbless hooks, I've noticed I lose a lot of fish during that awkward stage right after the hook set when I have a bunch of line outside the reel that I stripped in during the drift.
当一条更大的鱼在那个时候跑掉时，我总是不确定正确的技巧是什么。
When a bigger fish takes off at that point, I'm never sure what the correct technique is.
如果我用手按住线，我担心会把鱼弄断。
If I clamp down on the line with my finger, I worry about breaking the fish off.
但如果我让鱼跑，所有那些松散的线似乎会立即产生松弛，我还是会失去它。
But if I let the fish run, all that loose stripped line seems to create immediate slack, and I lose it anyway.
一旦我把鱼弄到卷线器上，我成功钓上它的几率就会大大增加。
Once I get a fish onto the reel, my odds of landing it increase dramatically.
问题是我在达到那个点之前就失去了绝大多数更大的鱼。
The problem is that I lose the vast majority of bigger fish before I ever reach that point.
当卷线器外有很多线时，保持持续压力的正确方法是什么？
What's the proper way to maintain constant pressure when you have a bunch of line outside the reel?
你有没有推荐一种技巧来更平稳地管理这个过渡？
Is there a technique you'd recommend for managing that transition more smoothly?
再次感谢你所做的一切。
Thanks again for everything you do.
我从播客和学校社区里学到了很多，也很期待继续这段旅程。
I've learned a lot from both the podcast and the school community, and I'm looking forward to continuing the journey.
这个问题问得真好，兄弟。
Really good question, man.
谢谢你发来这个问题。
Thank you for sending this one in.
我真的很喜欢你描述这个问题时的那种清晰，因为这是很多人都遇到的问题。
I I really love the the clarity that you use to describe this problem because it is a problem that a lot of folks have.
简单来说，你可能有点太担心鱼会跑掉，当你用手指把线压在软木上时。
So short of it is you are probably worrying a little bit too much about losing fish when you have your finger clamped down on the line against the cork.
因为如果你用的是四倍细的线，钓的是普通大小的鳟鱼，除非你把线死死压在软木上，不让线从指间滑走，完全不让它动，而鱼只是在剧烈甩头，它们很可能不会把线弄断。
Because if you're fishing four x tippet and you're fishing and catching average sized trout, unless you are clamping that line down on the cork and not letting any line slide through your finger, you're not letting it move at all, and that fish is just violently head shaking, they're probably not gonna break the line.
明白吗？
K?
即使用到五倍细的线，它们也还是不太可能把线弄断。
Even down to five x, they're still probably not gonna break the line.
如果你把线死死地夹住，一点都放不出去，那鱼就容易脱钩。
Where you run into fish breaking off when you clamp down tight is if you're not letting the line go through your fingers at all.
明白吗？
K?
如果你只是轻轻压住线，让它从指间滑出去，但还保持一点阻力，那你基本上又起到了卷线器的作用。
If you just put a little bit of pressure on that line and let it slip through your fingers but still provide some resistance, you're basically functioning as a reel again.
因为卷线器的全部工作就是把线收好，在竿子上看起来漂亮，然后当鱼上钩时提供阻力。
Because the reel's whole job is to hold your line there and look pretty on the rod and then give resistance when you have a fish on.
明白吗？
K?
给它那种阻力。
Give it that drag.
所以你要试着用手指模拟出同样的压力。
So you wanna try and mimic that same sort of pressure with your finger.
你不想死死地握住竿子，一点线都不放出去，因为那样百分之百会跑掉很多鱼。
You don't want a death grip on the rod where you're not letting any line out because a 100%, you're gonna break a lot of fish off doing that.
你也不能太松，因为那样的话，就像你说的，你会跑掉很多鱼，因为线松了，然后啪的一下，鱼钩就脱了。
You also don't want it to be too loose because then, like you said, you do lose a lot of fish because you get slack and boom, hook pops out.
但我喜欢做的是，把线紧紧压在竿子上，让线从手指间滑过，但不是那么容易滑过。
But what I like to do is I just press that line tight against the rod, and I let the line slide through my fingers, but not easily.
明白吗？
K?
而且很多时候，你知道，它们会先冲一下。
And and a lot of times, you know, they'll they'll take that initial run.
如果你能让线从手指间滑过，保持竿子弯曲，保持线有好的张力，然后在手指和软木握把之间保持一点张力，那就足够帮你把鱼慢下来了。
And if you can just sorta let the line go through your fingers, keep the rod, you know, bent, keep good tension on the line, and then keep a little bit of tension on the line between your finger and the cork, that's gonna be enough to kinda slow that fish down for you.
然后你就可以开始考虑要不要把鱼放到卷线器上。
And then you could start to look at whether you wanna put it on the reel.
因为我和亚历克斯，我们也不会立刻把鱼放到卷线器上。
Because we also me and Alex, we don't try to go and put the fish on the reel immediately.
我觉得一个很有价值的技能是学会几乎不用卷线器来遛鱼，明白吗，就是通过你手上的线来控制压力，让线从手中放出去。
One thing that I think is a pretty valuable skill to learn is how to fight fish almost without the reel, k, by, you know, managing the pressure that's on that fly line as you let it go out through your hands.
其实，我提到我们最近去了加拿大，我们很幸运地钓到了一些个头很大的鱼。
In fact, I I mentioned we were just in Canada recently, and we had we had the luck to get into some really nice sized fish.
其中有几条，我是说，我最后钓到的那条，最后一天，大概有20英寸长。
And there were a few of them that were, I mean, the last one I caught was like a 20 inch fish the last day.
这绝对不容小觑。
Not nothing to sneeze at at all.
而且我根本没把它放到卷线器上。
And I didn't put him on the reel at all.
我全程都是用手拉线，因为我的拉力刚刚好。
I I just stripped it in the whole time because I just had the right amount of tension.
我当时也放出了很多线，所以我不想费劲去把它弄到卷线器上。
I had a lot of slack out too, so I didn't wanna deal with getting them on the reel.
但我的拉力刚刚好，当它冲出去的时候，我就让它跑，然后我再把线拉回来。
But I had the right amount of tension, and when he'd make his runs, I'd just let him run, and then I'd just strip line back in.
所以这是一项值得学习的技能。
So it's a valuable skill worth learning.
但有时候你确实需要把它们绕上线轮，特别是当它们特别大，或者它们进入急流时，线轮会帮上大忙。
But sometimes you do need to put them on the reel, especially when they're really big, or if they get into that heavy current, the the reel is gonna help out a ton.
所以不要觉得你必须立刻把它们绕上线轮。
So don't feel like you have to immediately get them on the reel.
那必须是首要任务。
That's gotta be priority number one.
好吗？
K?
你要确保钩子挂得牢固。
You wanna make sure you get that hook set good.
线要保持适当的张力。
You've got good tension on the line.
然后，一旦鱼不再猛冲，或者你不需要费力把它从障碍物、断树或水里的其他东西旁边弄开，那时候你就可以开始收线了。
And then once you're in a position where the fish is not making a giant run or you're not trying to finagle it away from a snag or, you know, a a broken down tree or whatever in the water, that's when you can start reeling that slack in.
好吗？
K?
对我来说，具体操作就是，还是保持线有张力。
What this looks like for me is, again, I keep tension on the line.
让鱼跑。
I let that fish run.
然后鱼在跑的时候，如果你真想的话，可以一边让鱼跑一边收线，因为你是用拿杆的手握着线的。
And then as the fish is running, if you really want to, you can just start reeling in the slack while the fish is running because you're holding the line in your rock hand.
空出来的手就可以开始收线。
You've got your free hand to start reeling that slack in.
但如果鱼想往我下游跑，想躲进障碍物里，我就不碰卷线器。
But, if that fish is trying to get downstream of me, it's trying to bury itself in a snag, I don't mess with the reel.
我就继续用手拉线，保持很大的张力，尽量把鱼从障碍物旁边引开。
I just go back to stripping line in, keeping a lot of tension, and trying to steer that fish away away from the snags.
明白吗？
K?
再说一遍，这时候你的手指就像另一个刹车一样。
Again, you want your finger to kinda function like another drag at that point.
你不想完全阻止鱼的游动。
You don't wanna stop the fish's progress entirely.
你只是想让它慢下来，把它累垮，然后，砰，你就可以继续，要么把它收上线轮，要么把它弄到浅水里用网捞起来。
You just want to slow it down and tire it out because then, boom, you can go ahead, either get it on the reel or get it into shallow water and get it netted.
所以希望这能解释清楚，也回答了那个问题。
So hopefully, that clears that up, and that actually answered the question.
再说一次，我不会太担心。
Again, I wouldn't worry too much.
只是别把线抓得太紧。
Just don't have a death grip on the line.
尽量让鱼费点劲，但别到那种程度，比如你的竿尖抖得厉害，线出来的时候一顿一顿的，不顺畅，那可能说明你施加的张力太大了。
Just try and, you know, make the fish work for it, but not to the point where if your rod tip's, like, bouncing a ton and the the line's coming out and kinda, like, fits and starts not moving smoothly, that's probably a sign you've got a little too much tension on it.
我会稍微放松一点。
I'd loosen it just a little bit.
所以希望这能帮到你，兄弟。
So hopefully, that helps, man.
谢谢你的提问。
Appreciate the question.
好了，各位，是时候进入我们真实的现场时刻了，因为每周在Untangled，我们都会在节目最后分享一位VFC听众的故事和照片，他们正在过着真实的生活。
And with that, folks, it is time to get into the live real life moment because every week here at Untangled, we end the show by sharing a story and a picture from someone in the VFC audience who is out there living real life.
我们很喜欢了解你们所有人的冒险经历。
We love to be kept up to date on all y'all's adventures.
所以，如果你有一个LIVEREELLIFE时刻想和我们分享，节目说明里有个链接可以发送，或者如果你在看视频播客，屏幕上也有。
So if you've got a LIVEREELLIFE moment that you would like to share with us, there's a link to send that in down in the show notes or right here on the screen if you're watching the video podcast.
这周的LIVEREELLIFE时刻来自Jesse。
And this week's LIVEREELLIFE moment is from Jesse.
他写信来说，你好。
Writes in and says, howdy.
我只是想感谢你那个关于如何飞钓的视频，就是有岳母的那个。
I just wanted to tell you thank you for the video on how to fly fish, the one with the mother-in-law.
我最近从老板那里得到了飞钓装备，第一次尝试了。
I was recently gifted fly fishing gear from my boss and tried it for the first time.
刚开始上手的时候，就像第一次打到鹿一样兴奋，头几次鱼咬钩的时候，我激动得不行。
To get into the thick of it, it was like a buck fever when you get those first couple of strikes.
我抖得像筛糠一样。
I was shaking like a cane brick rattler.
最后我钓到了三条可以吃的鱼。
I ended up catching three eaters.
这次经历对我来说特别触动，因为今年早些时候我失去了爷爷和爸爸。
This adventure was emotional for me with the loss of my grandpa and father earlier this year.
他们教会了我用普通鱼竿和卷线器钓鳟鱼的所有知识。
They taught me everything I know for trout on a regular rod and reel.
很久以前，他们经常飞钓，我真希望当时能和他们一起体验。
Ages ago, they did a lot of fly fishing, and I just wish I had the experience with them.
看着他们长大，看着他们自己绑鱼饵，那真是难忘的回忆。
Growing up and watching them tie their own flies was a memory for the books.
他们要是看到我钓到这些鱼，肯定会特别高兴。
They would be stoked on this catch.
我说远了。
I digress.
再次感谢。
Thank you again.
杰西，没有比这更好的了，对吧？
Jesse, it doesn't get better than that, does it?
太棒了，兄弟。
That's awesome, man.
恭喜。
Congrats.
真的很高兴听到你有这个机会，而且还有家庭联系。
Really stoked to hear that you had that opportunity and had the the family connection with it.
所以那太棒了。
So that's awesome.
也恭喜你进入这一行。
And congrats on getting into it.
欢迎来到这个深坑。
Welcome to the rabbit hole.
你永远逃不出去，你的钱包也再也回不到从前了，因为总有新的好东西等着你买。
You will never escape, and your wallet is never gonna be the same again because there's always cool new stuff to get.
太棒了。
So awesome.
好了，朋友们，希望你们喜欢今天的节目。
Well, folks, I hope you enjoyed the show today.
非常感谢大家一直以来的收看和收听。
I really appreciate y'all being here, watching, and listening to the show as much as you do.
如果你们能帮个忙，请把我们的节目推荐给所有认识的人。
And if you could do us a favor, please tell everybody you know about the show.
我知道我每周都这么说，但VFC的存在就是为了帮助你们过好真实的生活。
I I know I say that every week, but VFC exists to help you live real life.
这就是我们的目标。
That's our goal.
我们希望你在水上有美好的体验。
We want you to have great experiences on the water.
而且，越多的人能看播客、看视频，得到这些帮助，就会有越多的人过上真实的生活。
And the more folks who can watch the podcast and see the videos and, you know, get this help, the more people are gonna live real life.
我觉得，参与的人越多，世界就会变得越好。
And I think the more people we have doing that, the better the world's gonna be.
所以这不只是为了帮我。
So this isn't even just like help me out.
这是为了改善你生活的这个世界。
This is improve the world that you're living in.
这是公共服务。
It is public service.
至少我希望如此。
So at least I hope it is.
总之，告诉你认识的每个人关于这个节目。
But anyways, tell everybody you know about the show.
非常感谢。
Thanks a bunch.
无论你在哪里收听，都请评分并订阅。
Rate and subscribe wherever you're listening to it.
下次再见，各位，去水上享受生活，活出真实的人生。
And until next time everybody, get out on the water, enjoy yourselves, and live real life.
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