《龙腾世纪：面纱守卫》前瞻：BIOWARE回来了！ - 第384集

今天节目预告，我玩了七小时的《龙腾世纪：审判》，显然还有回流喷射机，

Coming up on today's show, I played seven hours of dragon age of Vaildgard, apparently, refluid jets,

以及这个，

and this,

女士们先生们，男孩女孩们，这是我们最后一期常规节目。大家好呀！欢迎收听新一期的《What's Good Games》播客。这里是每周五为您带来的游戏新闻、评论、分析和趣事大杂烩——当然下周五就是最后一期了。我是主持人之一布兰妮·布朗巴克，身边坐着这位美艳动人、可爱性感到爆炸的安德莉亚·蕾妮。

ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, is our last regular episode. What's good, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the What's Good Games podcast. You're a source for video game news, commentary, analysis, and funny stuff every Friday except for next Friday is the last one. I am one of your hosts, Britney Braunbacker joined by the gorgeous, lovely, oh so bangable Andrea Renee.

噢，我还以为你肯定会说丹尼呢。

Oh, I I thought you were gonna say Danny for sure.

哦，这个嘛，我是说那可能

Oh, well, I mean that would

会

be It

有点尴尬，毕竟他老婆就在这儿。大家好呀。

would be a little awkward when His we're wife is here. Hi, everybody.

嗨，我可爱性感的小红发宝贝。还有这位光彩照人、惊艳全场的瑞安娜·伊曼纽尔·佩纳。

Hi, my lovely, bangable red headed wonder. And we got the gorgeous, stunning, Rihanna Emmanuel Pena.

大家好。大家好。

Hello. Hello.

然后我们还有

And then we have

丹尼。我

Danny. I

本来想做个漂亮的开场白来着。我算是压轴嘉宾吗？

thought I was gonna give a nice intro, you know. Am I technically the last guest?

你就是。不用算。不。不。

You are. Not technically. No. No.

谢谢。

Thank you.

为终场准备了位特别嘉宾。

Have a special guest for the finale.

好吧。好吧。

Okay. Okay.

但你是出场最多的嘉宾，最最频繁的嘉宾

But you are the most guested guest, the most The most guested guest

嘉宾中的

with the guest

出场次数之王。

with the most appearances.

哇哦。希望我有帮上忙。

Oh, snap. I hope I helped out.

丹尼，大家都知道你。你就是那个娶了蕾哈娜的家伙。你知道的，你就是那个传奇。我们爱你，多年来你一直是节目了不起的朋友，也是我私人的好友。

Danny, everyone knows you. You're that guy that married Rihanna. You know, you're just that dude. We love You've been an amazing friend of the show for so many years. And just a personal friend as well.

很高兴你能回来，因为你还在玩《龙腾世纪：审判》。哇，我们有很多话题要聊。但朋友们，这感觉有点超现实。另外完全坦白，今早我的狗得了尿道感染，我只睡了两个半小时。所以这期节目可能会很诡异，但这就是你在这儿的原因。

And glad to have you back because you also play Dragon Age of the Vailgard. And wow, we have a lot to talk about. But this is kind of surreal, friends. Also, full disclaimer, my dog got a UTI this morning and I got two and a half hours of sleep. So this is gonna be a weird fucking episode, but that's why you're here.

这也是你七年来一直支持我们的原因。我说得对吧？

And that's why you've been here for seven years. Am I right?

没错。完全正确。我确实觉得上期节目很有趣，特别是YouTube视频下的几条评论。很多人都在问：等等，节目要结束了？我就想，难道你们过去都没在听吗

I'm right. Exactly. I did think it was interesting in last week's episode in several of the comments on the YouTube video specifically. A lot of people were were like, wait, the show's ending? And I'm like, does that mean you haven't been listening

过去差不多六周都没听节目吗？因为我们

to the show for the last like six weeks? Because we

我感觉我们讨论过这事。

I feel like we've talked about it.

我们讨论过很多次。是啊。我注意到那个视频获得了很多关注。就像

We talked about it a lot. Yeah. I thought about that was interest that video got a lot of traction. Got like

没错。

Yeah.

确实如此。我在想是因为人们觉得我们对PS5 Pro的价格感到愤怒，还是他们自己很愤怒，只是想找个发泄对象。

It sure did. I wonder if it's because people thought we were angry about the PS five Pro's price or if they're angry and they just were looking for someone to be angry with.

可能单纯就是愤怒。愤怒大概是唯一的共同点。

Probably just anger. Anger is probably the common denominator there.

感觉这正是最近在网上引起热议的话题，也是我们节目即将收官的众多原因之一。很多人也问过，他们有没有说明播客为何结束？我们其实已经隐晦提到过，但计划在下周的收官集中深入探讨这个问题。非常深入。极其深入。

It feels like that's what's getting a lot of traction on the Internet these days, which is one of the many reasons why our show is ending. A lot of people have also asked, did they say why the podcast is ending? And we we sort of have, you know, alluded to it, but we plan on diving deep into that answer in the finale episode next week. So deep. Very deep.

她是这么说的吗？

Is that what she said?

她确实是这么说的。在这个非常应景的节点上，特别感谢我们的超级制作人Farrah Sinthia、Pumpkified、Joshua Franklin，本期《What's Good Games》由Shopify赞助播出。不过关于这个我们稍后再详聊，因为本周的重磅新闻是——《龙腾世纪：维尔的守卫》中所有角色都能免费攻略了。这就是新闻。这就是我们要聊的内容。

That is what she said. And on that very appropriate note, huge thank you to our super producers, Farrah Sinthia, Pumpkified, Joshua Franklin, and this episode of What's Good Games is brought to you by Shopify. But we will tell you more about that later because the news this week, friends, is everyone in Dragon Age of Vail Guard can hit it for free. That is the news. That is what we are talking about.

我猜我们现在要做的就是立刻马上讨论《龙腾世纪》对吧

And I'm assuming that is what we're doing right here, right now, talking about Dragon Age

维尔的——在进入正题前，布兰妮（显然丹妮也要和你聊这个），今天其实还真有个新闻和我们女神蕾哈娜有关。蕾哈娜开通了个频道。

of Vail Well, before we get to that, Britney, which is obviously what Dani is going to be chatting with you about as well, there was some actual news that came out today in fact and it has to do with our gal Rihanna. Rihanna launched a channel.

恭喜啊朋友。能详细说说Rihanna MP吗？当然可以。关注我比较久的朋友都知道我所有社交账号都有这种命名规则——

Congratulations, friend. Could you please tell us all about Rihanna MP? Yeah. Absolutely. So folks who've been following me for a while know that I had this sort of naming convention for all my socials.

蕾哈娜现在在Twitter/X上发推，在Instagram上是Rihanna Graham's，在Twitch上是Rihanna twitches...总之各种'twitches'。管理起来实在太麻烦了。

Rihanna tweets now on Twitter slash x. Rihanna Graham's now on Instagram. Rihanna twitches now, whatever. Twitches. That got to be a lot to manage.

我最初想，如果统一简化名字会不会很酷？但后来又觉得，我积累了这么多幕后花絮——作为CEO参加工作会议，作为创作者参与各种试玩预览活动等等。不如把所有内容归到一个地方，统一用一个名字，让大家更方便。所以现在全网都叫therianamp（还是r i a n a这个拼写）。

And I initially thought, hey, wouldn't it be cool if I just simplified my name everywhere? But then I also thought, I have all of this like BTS footage I keep collecting from these experiences as a CEO going to work conferences, and as a creator going to different hands on preview events and things like that. So I figured, let me just put it all in one place and all under one name and make it a little bit easier for everybody. So I am now at the rianna m p everywhere. That's still r I a n a.

你们可以在那里看到《飞行模拟器》体验的全部内容（这个我们今天稍后会聊），还有我最后一次随《What's Good Games》参加PAX West的全程影像，以及我们和《奇异人生》团队等朋友举办的告别派对等等。欢迎全网关注therianamp，来围观这种奇葩生活的日常。

And yeah, you can catch all of the stuff about flight simulator experience, which we'll be talking about later today. I'll be putting all of my footage from going to PAX West with What's Good Games for the last time and the party that we had to say farewell along with our friends at Life is Strange and so on and so forth. So you can follow me everywhere at t h e r I a n a m p and, yeah, catch a little bit of what it's like to live this weird ass life.

看看你这可爱的小频道。嘿。

Look at this cute little channel you got going on. Hey.

这就是凌晨两点的品牌设计，太棒了。真漂亮。谢谢。给Canva点个赞。

That's a that's some 2AM branding right there. Hell yeah. It's beautiful. Thanks. Shout out to Canva.

是啊，我根本没时间用Canva做点什么。

Yeah. I didn't have any any time to get something Canva.

不，她昨晚熬夜处理所有事情，睡得很晚。

No. She she was very she slept late last night working on on everything.

但你做得太棒了，Rion，你的TikTok内容也是。我真的很喜欢你发布的那种内容，非常有趣。

But you've crushing it, Rion, your TikTok stuff too. I really like the type of content you've been putting over there. It's very fun.

你

You're

非常擅长这个。

very good at it.

不过让我告诉大家该怎么做。提醒一下，你需要点击这边这个小按钮。

Let me show everyone what they should do though. So just as a reminder, you wanna come over to this little button here.

嗯。

Mhmm.

那个小小的订阅按钮。你得按——哦，看这个。

The little subscribe button. You wanna hit Oh. Look at that.

特效啊，特效。

The special effect. The special effect.

订阅吧。那段真美。

Subscribe. That was pretty.

是啊，美极了。已订阅。下周我们还有个激动人心的直播，就在9月24日星期二。

Yeah. So pretty. Subscribed. We also have an exciting stream next week. That is Tuesday, September 24.

四点到五点会是欢乐问答时间，完全对外开放。有问题可以发到whatsgoodgames.com/dearwgg，或在聊天区提问。发邮件也行，派信鸽也行，我无所谓。

Four to five is going to be a happy hour q and a stream, but that's gonna be open to absolutely everyone. So if you have questions for us, you can send those to what's good games dot com slash dear w g g, or you can hit us up with your questions in the chat. Send us an email. Send us a courier pigeon. I don't really care.

大家随意就好。从五点开始，准确说是四点到七点我们都会直播。重点就是来玩，我们会和特别嘉宾小酌几杯，应该会是个既欢乐又感性的时刻。

You do you do you, friends. And then from five to seven, we're gonna just be doing essentially from four to seven, we're streaming. That's all you need to know. Just show up, hang out, we'll have some drinks with a very special guest. It's gonna be a very, very fun, emotional time, I think.

感性且肯定的。

Emotional and Yes.

绝对精彩。原本我们不确定是否做告别直播，毕竟开幕夜同步观影就像最后一次了。但总觉得不正式告别差点意思，所以决定加场。

It's gonna be wonderful. We originally didn't know if we were going to do one final stream because we said that our opening night live watch along was kind of like our last one. But then, you know, we were like, it doesn't feel doesn't feel right to not do one last live thing. Right. So that's what we're gonna do.

我们会先录播客保持清醒，直播时可能会放飞自我——提前预警，真的会嗨起来。

We're recording the podcast first to try to keep it not sloppy. And then the stream will probably get sloppy. Just like full warning. It'll probably get sloppy.

不然我们还能怎样？

Mean, what do we have to do?

为离别流泪呗。

Sheds and tears for leaving.

赞助商？老兄我们早丢光了。

Sponsors? We already lost our sponsors, man.

不过关于这件事，我能说一句吗？关于你们的节目？因为我知道我们要聊《龙腾世纪》那些内容。但说实话，如果不是因为这个好节目，我根本不会认识Ree。

Can I say one thing, though, about about that? Of About your show? Because I know we're gonna be talking about Dragon Age and all those stuff. But Yeah. Honestly, if it wasn't for what's good, I would've not met Ree.

所以我想说非常感谢，因为这简直改变了我的人生。说不定这就是你们女孩们做这个节目的初衷——就为了让我们相遇。谁知道呢？

So I just wanna say thank you so much because it was like life changing. Maybe that maybe that was the reason you you girls created the show just for us to meet. I mean, who knows?

我们当时就说，Danny你需要些朋友。真的。除了Paris，他不能是你唯一的朋友。

We were like, Danny, you need, yes, some friends in your life. Yeah. Besides Paris, he just he just can't be the only one.

Paris真的算朋友吗？我是说真的。他那个样子你懂的...

Is Paris even a friend though? I mean, really. He just you know what I mean? Like, I

听着，我之前为Gamertag录节目时也不得不把他们分开。所以你们看到或听到的内容会分成两部分，一部分是Paris，另一部分是Britney。

don't Look. I did a recording for for Gamertag, and I had to separate them too. So you when you see the content or hear the content, you see one section is Paris, and then the other section is is Britney.

Danny我真不懂你为什么要和这种小丑来往，但你就是喜欢。Andrea，我们是在Twitch和YouTube同步直播吗？

I don't know why you associate with such clowns, Danny, but you do. Andrea, are we streaming on Twitch and YouTube?

是不是...

Is that

两个平台都在直播，没错。

We are streaming on both. That's correct.

那就锁定twitch.tv/whatsgoodgames和youtube.com/whatsgoodgames。不来就是土包子，姐妹们。绝对精彩。

So twitch.tv/whatsgoodgames, youtube.com/whatsgoodgames. Be there or be a square, bitches. It's gonna be great.

说不定能遇见未来另一半哦。

Maybe you'll meet your future spouse.

重要提示：我们将为我们优秀的朋友组织Take This进行筹款。如果你在社交媒体上关注他们，可能已经看到他们今年因捐款不足而面临团队解散的危险。过去两年在经济低迷的背景下，许多慈善机构都举步维艰，尤其是在美国。我认识的所有在501(c)(3)非营利组织（美国慈善机构的税收分类）工作的人都说，他们今年筹款非常困难。而Take This一直是What's Good Games旅程中不可或缺的重要部分。

And important note, we will be fundraising for our wonderful friends at Take This. If you follow them on social media, you may have seen that they are in danger of losing their team due to lack of donations this year. A lot of charities have been struggling over the last two years in the face of an economic downturn that's been happening, particularly here in The United States. Everyone I know that works at 5013 c's, which is a tax classification for charities here in United States, has said that they've been struggling with fundraising this year. And Take This has been such a huge part of What's Good Games journey.

他们在我们首次开播时就赞助了我们的节目。我们一直是他们工作的坚定支持者，他们是一群以心理健康为使命、做着重要工作的杰出人士。我们希望能帮助他们。所以如果你有一美元、五美元或更多可以捐赠，下周的直播中我们会提供详细信息。如果你是已取消订阅的Patreon或Supercast用户，但愿意将下个月的费用转为捐款，那也再好不过。

They sponsored our show when we first launched. We've been a huge supporter of their work and they're just generally really wonderful people doing important things in the name of mental health. And we want to help support them. So if you have a dollar to give, if you have $5 or more to give, we'll have lots of information about that in the streams next week. If you are a patron or a Supercast subscriber who has already canceled and you are interested in maybe using your next month's fees that you would paid towards donation, that's awesome too.

重申一次，我们很快会提供所有捐赠细节和渠道。或者你也可以直接访问他们的官网takethis.org立即捐款。

Again, we'll have all of those details and where you can donate very soon. Or just go to their page, tick this at org and donate now.

没错。好了，现在大家都知道我们为何而来了——不是来聊What's Good Games，也不是来讨论其他任何事情的。

Yeah. Okay. Now let's we all know why we're here. Not here to talk about what's good games. We're not here to talk about any anything else.

我们是来讨论《龙腾世纪：影障守护者》的，这对我来说意义非凡。另外感谢EA花钱请我飞来，管吃管喝还让我玩得超他妈开心。Danny San Prio。

We are here to talk about Dragon Age, the Veil Guard, and this is really special for me. Also, thank you EA for flying my ass out and feeding me and showing me a lovely fucking time. Danny San Prio.

这太疯狂了因为这是

This is crazy because this is the

自从节目开播以来，我第一次有机会以实质性内容预览或讨论《龙腾世纪》。而这次将是我为节目做的最后一次预览，对象恰巧是我有生以来最爱的游戏之一《龙腾世纪》，这感觉特别圆满。先说些《影障守护者》的基本信息：故事发生在《龙腾世纪：审判》结局的8到10年后（具体取决于你是否计入DLC《 trespasser》的时间）。

first time I've been able to preview or talk about Dragon Age in any real capacity since we launched the show. And I think it's just really fitting and kind of cool that this is gonna be my final preview for the show is Dragon Age, which is obviously, like, one of my all time favorite games. So a little bit of housekeep on Dragon Age, the Veil Guard. It is it takes place about eight to ten years depending on when you count the DLC, the Trespasser, or if you count from the end of the actual game. So eight to ten years after Dragon Age the Inquisition.

游戏将于10月31日（就是下个月）登陆PS5、Xbox、PC和Steam Deck平台（我知道Reeves有Steam Deck）。本作是《审判》的直接续作，Solas又回来搞他的老把戏了。

It is coming out October 31, which is next month. It's coming out on PS five, Xbox, PC, Steam Deck. I know Reeves all have a Steam Deck. It is a direct sequel to Dragon Age Inquisition. Solas is back to his usual antics.

关于剧情我就点到为止。我们会全力避免剧透，因为官方对可透露内容有严格限制。接下来主要会谈游戏玩法、我们看到的亮点、令人印象深刻和惊喜的元素。

And I think I'm just going to leave it at that. We're going to keep this very, very spoiler free. We also have some pretty strict instructions on what we can and cannot say. So we're going to do our very, very best to keep this absolutely as spoiler free as possible. We're going be talking more about the gameplay, the things that we saw, things that we love, that impress us, that surprised us.

我对《龙腾世纪》系列可谓如数家珍，从《起源》到《审判》都通关多次。Danny，你对这个系列了解多少？

I obviously am very familiar with Dragon Age. I love origins to Inquisition, played them multiple times. Danny, what's your familiarity with Dragon Age?

我以前玩过《龙腾世纪》，但没你那么深入。我只是因为喜欢RPG才玩来享受乐趣。我知道上一作是开放世界，这一作没那么开放，但玩起来感觉依然很棒。

I played Dragon Age in the past. I'm not as deep as you. I just play just to enjoy the because I love RPG. I know the last game, it was open world. This one, not so much, but it still feels pretty good to to play it.

我认为这款游戏会吸引很多新人加入《龙腾世纪》系列，甚至从未玩过RPG的玩家。我觉得我们会看到很多初次尝试这个游戏的新玩家。布兰妮，你同意吗？

I think this is the game that's gonna help out get a lot of new people get into the Dragon Age series and also people that never played an RPG. I think I think we're gonna get to see a lot of new people trying this game for the first time, I think. Do you agree, Britney, not?

没错，我完全同意。很高兴你提到这点，因为我也想说不必玩过前作也能享受这款游戏。开发团队明确表示，玩过前作的玩家会发现许多有趣的细节和信息碎片，可能会让你像女学生一样尖叫。

Yeah. No. I totally agree. I'm glad you brought that up because that's something I wanted to say too is you do not have to have played any of the other Dragon Age games in order to enjoy this game. The team, you know, very explicitly said that if you have played the other games, you're definitely gonna get a lot of fun little, like, bits and pieces and morsels of information that's gonna probably gonna make you, like, squeal like a schoolgirl.

这是我的形容，不是他们的原话。游戏确实有非常详实的百科系统，而且我头一次在《龙腾世纪》里见到术语表（除非我完全忘了）。如果对话中有人提到'帷幕'或'精灵神'之类时你一脸懵——

My words, not theirs. The game does have a really in-depth codex. And for the first time that I've seen in Dragon Age, unless I completely forgot it, a glossary. So if you're you know, if someone in conversation is like, yo, blah blah blah, the veil or da da da, the elven gods. And you're like, what does that mean?

你可以暂停游戏，按字母顺序查阅这些术语的含义。因为《龙腾世纪》的设定极其深邃，除了游戏本体，还有漫画、目前很棒的音频剧《千种复仇》、大量书籍、

You can, you know, at some point pause the game and then it's in alphabetical order. You can look and see what the hell because this game and the lore in Dragon Age is it goes very, very deep. Besides just the games, there's comics. There's a really great audio podcast out right now called Thousand Vengeance, I believe. There's tons of books.

短篇小说等等。通过其他媒介获取的设定知识都会丰富《龙腾世纪》的世界观，而且全是正史。所以我很高兴他们加入了百科和术语表，可探索的内容实在太多了。

There's short stories. There's just so much in everything that you can read and the lore you can gain from engaging in that other medium does add to the world of Dragon Age, and it's all canon. So there's, like, a lot there. So I'm glad that they included the codex and the glossary. So, I mean, there's just so much to dive in.

我们体验了约七小时内容，全部发生在第一章。试玩版引导我们跳过了不同段落：先是角色创建器，然后跳过几个章节。有些内容我们可以讨论，但必须含糊其辞，有些画面甚至不能录制。

Again, we got about seven hours and everything that we played did take place throughout the first act. The way the demo set up is they kind of ushered us through different sections. So the first thing we got was the character creator, and then they would skip us ahead to another section and skip us ahead to another section. Some of them we can talk about. We have to be pretty vague with what we say, and obviously some of the other footage we couldn't even capture.

所以得谨慎处理。话说回来，丹尼，你在角色创建器上花了很多时间吗？当我问团队最期待什么时，台上四人里有三个都提到了角色创建器。

So we'll just have to kind of be careful about that. But anyway, the character creator. Danny, did you spend a lot of time with this character creator? Because this is something when I asked the team, what's one of things you're the most excited about with this game? And I think three out of four of the people on stage said the character creator.

说出来你可能不信，《龙腾世纪》和待会要聊的《飞行模拟器》，拥有我见过最棒的角色创建系统，真的精细到这种程度。

You know what? This is crazy. I'm about to say this. Both Dragon Age and Fly Simulator, we're gonna be talking about later on, has the best character creator I ever seen, I think. Like, it's it's that deep.

没错，确实非常出色。

Yeah. Yeah. It's really, really good.

哇，太棒了。这非常令人兴奋。

Wow. The best. That's very hype.

确实相当不错，Rhee稍后会详细讨论。但从《龙腾世纪》的角度来看，确实很棒。我慢慢来的，注意到有人创建角色时花了至少三、四十分钟慢慢调整。那个人是你吗？

It's pretty it's pretty up there, and Rhee will talk more about that later. But from the Dragon Age side, yeah, it was pretty good. I took my time. Like, I noticed there was people that were creating their character and they were there for, like, at least thirty to forty minutes just taking their time. That was you?

是你吗？慢慢创建角色。而我当时想的是，好吧，圆头造型在哪？你知道的，我没找到，不过算了。

That you? Were taking their time creating a character. For me, I was like, okay. Where are the the ones with the ball head? You know, I couldn't really find but but no.

总的来说，我确实花时间了，但比你少，Britt。嗯。之后我还选了法师职业，不知道你选的是什么，Britt。

Overall, yeah, I took my time doing it. I I spent less time than than than you, Britt. Mhmm. But after that, I also selected my class as a mage. I don't know which one was yours, Britt.

哦，天哪。

Oh, boy.

你每天都这样，老兄。很明显。

You're all day, every day, man. Obviously.

当然。她就是要么硬扛要么完蛋。硬扛

Of course. She's she's face tank or bust. Face tank

要么完蛋。是的。团队说过他们在第一部分预留了约30分钟给角色创建。所以你知道我的，我肯定把所有时间都花在打造我那普通的金发女孩上了。不过，

or bust. Yeah. I the team had said that they had allotted about thirty minutes for character creator in this first section. So you know me, I definitely spent all my time making my basic ass bitch blonde girl. But no,

效果真的非常非常好

it was really, really good

而且令人印象深刻。显然我们不需要逐一展示所有选项，但我确实能按照自己喜欢的方式让她看起来漂亮。我可能还能再花一小时调整。但最让我印象深刻的是创建角色后的部分——我稍后会详细讲派系之类的。Danny你可能没体验到这个，因为，你知道的，光头。

and really impressive. Obviously, we don't need to go through all of the options there, but I was definitely able to make her look pretty in the way I liked. I could have spent probably another hour doing that. But the thing that impressed me the most about once you create your character, and I'll go in more into, the factions and stuff in a second, though. And Danny, you probably didn't experience this because, you know, bald.

当你把角色放进游戏里时，那头发飘动的样子，简直令人印象深刻。然后我看到网上有很多人在讨论这个头发，有些人觉得它看起来很棒。

When you put your character in the game, the hair, the way the hair like was billowing and flowing, it was so impressive. And then I saw there was a bunch of discourse online from people talking about the hair and some people thought it looked great.

你

Did you

们都看到了吗？那是没有。

all see that? It was No.

不，不。我有，我有它。

No. No. I have I have it.

对你来说是好事。

Good for you.

还有，就像但我有胡子。

Have Also, like But I had beard.

头发看起来总是很奇怪。

Hair is always gonna look weird.

我是说，事情就是这样。

I mean, it's just the way it is.

但是动画制作头发真的很困难。

But that's Animating hair is really difficult.

但这就是问题所在。

But that's the thing.

看起来真的很不错。

It looks really good.

我本来觉得它很美，但人们总是愚不可及。总之，那个龙属性的瞬间有点病毒式传播的效果，看起来棒极了。我的车（rook）也特别好看。她的面部表情一直都很到位。

I thought it looked beautiful, but then people are dumb and stupid. Anyway, it was a little, like, viral moment with the dragon nature. It looked phenomenal. And my rook looked so good too. Her facial expressions always looked good.

完全符合我的预期。她从未显得像被附身，或是打了过量肉毒杆菌或填充剂的样子。单凭这点就已经是满分改进了。不过当你创建角色时，就像丹尼之前说的，你可以选择血统——人类、精灵、金丝雀族或矮人。显然每种选择都会对剧情产生重大影响。

They were, like, what I would expect. She never looked possessed or, like, she had too much Botox or filler or something in her face. So 10 out of 10 improvement already on that alone. But as you're care you're creating your character, you're also gonna have the option, like Danny was saying earlier, you're gonna pick your lineage that's human, elf, canary, or dwarf. Obviously, each one of those have a very significant lore implication depending on who you pick.

你的游戏风格和世界对待你的方式会稍有不同。然后是职业选择：战士、盗贼和法师。我一直玩的战士。丹尼，你全程都玩法师吗？

Your gameplay style and the way the world treats you is gonna be a little bit different. And then you had your class, which is warrior, rogue, and mage. I played warrior the whole time. Danny, did you play mage the whole time?

我没有全程玩法师。好吧，整个流程都是。行，不错。

I don't mage the whole time. Okay. The whole set. Okay. Cool.

因为我通常都会选战士，但这次想尝试些不同的。结果玩法师玩得很开心。

Because I typically I typically I will pick as warrior, but I was like, let me try something different. And I really enjoyed playing mage.

哇，厉害。真希望我有这种意志力。另外我们要选择阵营，这个让我特别兴奋——因为这是首次能真正与这些特定阵营的角色互动。

Yeah. Impressive. I wish I had that kind of willpower. And then the other thing we get to pick were your factions. And this is something that I'm incredibly excited about because for the first time we're going to actually be able to interact with characters from these particular factions.

这些阵营以前只能在文本里读到。比如暗影巨龙、晨昏守望者、命运领主什么的...又是些硬核设定。丹尼你选哪个？龙族？

And these are factions that we only ever got to read about. So I'm talking about the shadow dragons, the Morn Watch, the Lords of Fortune. Anyway, again, like real nerdy lore shit. Danny, you picked which one? Dragons.

好吧。

Okay.

我站在人民这边。我也心系民众。

I'm for the people. I'm also about the people.

是的。没错。就是这样。那真是个有趣的事实。

Yes. Yeah. That's it. That was a really interesting fact.

老实说，这就是我接电话的唯一原因。嘿，你知道的，我最在乎的就是人。

That's the honestly, that's the only reason why I picked up. Like, hey, know, I'm all about the people.

我就想，好吧。没错。那些人在泰文特工作，他们试图解放奴隶。对吧？

I'm like, alright. Correct. Those people work in Tevinter and they try to liberate slaves. Right?

是的。

Yes.

那就是他们做的事。好的。

That that's their thing. Okay.

对。

Yeah.

然后我当然选了灰袍守卫者，因为我对《龙腾世纪：起源》的情怀。我想在杀死大恶魔的同时牺牲自己。这不酷吗？总之，你会选择你的阵营，并得到一小段背景故事。在每个背景故事里，你会发现有个迫使你与阵营分离的原因。

And then I, course, did the Grey Warden because of my Dragon Age origins throwback. I wanna kill the arch demon and sacrifice myself while doing it. Isn't that neat? But anyway, so yeah, you'll pick your faction and you'll get a little bit of a backstory. In every one of these backstories, you're going to find out there's a reason why you've kind of been forced to separate yourself from your faction.

这与游戏世界观和叙事相契合，我猜这也是瓦里克招募你的原因。游戏有六个难度选项，我觉得这很棒。我选了普通难度。丹尼，我猜你也是。而且

And that plays into the lore and the narrative, and I'm assuming why Varric has recruited you. There's six options for difficulty, which I thought that was really great. I played on the normal difficulty. Danny, I'm assuming you did too. And

我能问下——我必须说点看法。最后一个难度应该是噩梦模式。嗯。问题是，你玩游戏时可以随时调整难度，你知道的，调简单或调难。

Can I ask can I I have to say something about that? So the last the last difficulty, I think, is nightmare. Mhmm. So here's the thing. When you play the game, you could change the difficulty if you want, you know, make it easier, harder.

但如果你从一开始就选噩梦难度，那就只能硬着头皮玩到底。完全不能更改。是的。我问过开发者，他们说没错，选了就改不了。

But once you play from the start, nightmare, you're stuck with nightmare. You can't change it at all. Yeah. I talked to the developer about that, and they were like, yeah. That's you stuck if you played it.

但这更像是一种挑战，你知道的，如果你想，想让游戏对你来说更难一点。明白吗？

But it's more of like a challenge, you know, if you wanna, you know, wanna make it a game more difficult for you. You know?

是啊是啊。难度选项很棒，因为我玩的是普通难度，战斗部分我们稍后再聊。整体刚刚好。

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the difficulty options were great because I played on normal difficulty, and we'll talk about the combat later. It was just good enough.

简直完美。不会太难，我一次都没死过。等等不对，游戏里确实死过一次，但那种心跳加速的感觉很棒。

It was perfect. It wasn't too difficult. I never died. Actually, no. I did die at one part in the game, but got the blood pumping.

体验太棒了。当然你可以自定义角色，还有些关于要塞的选项我们不能细说。Bioware之前提过要塞，所以不算新内容，但具体操作不能透露。这个话题先放一放。丹尼，我想听听这个demo里最让你印象深刻的是什么？

It was wonderful. Obviously, you customize your character, and then you have some other options which we cannot talk about that have something to do with the keep. Obviously, Bioware has mentioned the keep before, so this isn't something new, but we cannot talk about the specific things that you can do within the keep. So we'll just pin that and then just move on. So, Danny, I guess, like, what I'd like to hear about from you is what stood out to you from this demo?

哪个部分最打动你？

Like, what was the thing that impressed you the most?

除了角色创建，我觉得最惊艳的是环境世界构建。背景里有很多动态事件，我跟帕里斯说过，这让我第一次看到《光环2》demo时的感觉，背景里的爆炸特效什么的，就像早期Xbox时代。

Yeah. Besides the the character creation, I think what stood out to me the most is also the surrounding, like, the world. A lot of things are just happening in the background. You I was telling Paris, it reminded me the first time seeing Halo two, like the demo that you get to see, like explosions and all this stuff in the back. And this is like the early Xbox days.

对吧？让我想起那个再加上次世代的感觉。这部分非常棒，还有同伴系统，我喜欢和敌人战斗，首领战也超级过瘾。demo里有几个首领战让我卡关了，布里特。

Right? Mhmm. It reminded me of that plus next gen, you know? That part was really good, and also my companions, I love battling that with enemies, and also the boss battles, I really, really enjoyed. There was a couple of boss battles in the demo, Britt, that I was stuck.

我当时想天啊这有点难了，因为我们从1级开始玩，回来时都15级了。结束时候大概30多级？应该是的，布里特。

I'm like, oh man, this is getting a little tough, because we started first level one, and then we came back, it was like level 15. And I think when we ended, it was like either level 30 something, I think it was, Brit. Yeah.

角色成长得很强悍啊。

Got a beefy character.

没错没错，特别强悍。而且每次重玩demo都会发现很多新技能新内容，而这还只是第一幕。

Yeah. Yeah. It was very beefy, but I noticed every time we go back to the demo, we had, like, a lot a lot of new abilities, like, a lot of new things. And this is the first act. The first act.

首先，这又是一个需要强调的重点。就像，你所经历的一切

The first That's, again, another point to drive home. Like, everything you

最初看到的。我清晰记得《审判》刚发售时的报道，所有人都在说你会觉得荒野地区就是整个游戏，但实际上那只是游戏的开篇区域，你可能不小心在那里耗费三四十个小时。所以别那么做。要继续推进，因为部分内容显然会受主线进度限制。

saw first. I vividly remember from Inquisition, the coverage when it first came out about everyone's saying you're gonna feel like the hinterlands is just the game but in reality it's just the opening area of the game that you could accidentally spend like thirty or forty hours in. So don't do that. Like keep going because some of the game will obviously be blocked behind main story progression.

没错。这确实是个很好的提醒，回到丹尼提到的地点问题。这不是开放世界游戏对吧？

Yeah. No. And that's that's a great thing to bring up because going back to what Danny said about the location. So this is not an open world game. Right?

取而代之的是这些类似地图的区域——我们现在叫它们沙盒吗？现在流行怎么称呼？

And so what you have instead are these pretty like map are we calling them sandbox? What are we calling them these days?

我称之为实例区域。就是独立场景。对。

I call them like Instances. They're instances. Yeah.

我觉得更像是分区块设计，但依然有开放感。要知道里面有很多支线任务。我记得游玩时我们跳过了大量支线，因为我只专注主线战役。但这是可选项，他们告诉我们：想做支线就做，没时间也可以不做。

I see it also like you're like in sections, but it's like it it still feels open. You know, there's still a lot of like side quests. Because I remember when we were playing, there was a lot of side quests that we just passed through because I was just focused on the campaign, you know. But it was an option. You could they they told us, look, if you want, you could do the side quest if you want, but if not, not gonna have time to finish it.

我当时就想，好吧。你懂的。

I'm like, alright. Know what?

完全同意。我们去的某些地点——再次强调，这些地方之前只存在于文本描述中。比如古精灵圣地阿勒斯森林，安提瓦的港口城市特雷维索，灰卫总部维斯霍普要塞，还有米纳拉西斯等等绝美区域。

Absolutely. So, yeah, some of the locations we got to go to, again, locations we've only really ever read about. You have the Arlethan Forest, which is, you know, this ancient Elven area. You have Treviso, which is this port city in Antiva. You have Weisshop Fortress, which is the headquarters of the Grey Wardens, Minrathis, like all of these beautiful areas.

回到你说的丹尼，这些区域多么美丽且充满乐趣。我几乎震撼到恍惚，握着控制器心想：我真的正在这里漫步吗？啊。

And going back to what you're saying, Danny, like how beautiful the areas looked and how fun they were to be in. For me, it was almost shell I was almost shell shocked. I had the controller in my hand. I'm like, am I really walking through here right now? Ah.

我能偷听路人对话，看到不同商贩和法典条目，这些都在拓展我熟知且热爱的世界观。单凭这点就令人兴奋，更别提能亲历这些自《龙腾世纪：起源》起就只闻其名的地方。现在身临其境真是激动人心的时刻。比如在森林里时，你完全不会觉得这是线性区域对吧？

And I was, and I got to listen to people's conversations and eavesdrop, and there were different vendors and codex entries, and it's expanding on the lore that I've come to know and love so much. And it's very exciting for that reason alone and being able to see these historical places that again, like since Dragon Age Origins, we've only ever heard about. Now we're actually in there. That was just a really big, exciting moment. And also when you're in places like the forest, for example, it does not feel again like you're in this linear area, right?

这里有瀑布、溪流，还有需要跨越的原木。总有值得一看的景致。在我的试玩体验中，探索往往能带来回报——可能发现金币、更好的装备、法典条目、隐藏谜题，或是不同的首领战与敌人遭遇。这让我非常兴奋，因为我个人可不想再经历一次‘Hinterland’式的地图设计。

There's waterfalls, there's creeks, there's logs to cross over. There's always something to kind of look at. And I found in my gameplay demo that exploration was often rewarded. So maybe you would find gold or better gear or a Codex entry or maybe like a hidden puzzle or a different like bossing or enemy encounter or something. So I'm really thrilled with that because I personally did not want another Hinterland situation.

那是BioWare对《龙腾世纪2》问题的过度修正，他们当初做得太过头了。现在《Vilegard》能收住这种倾向让我很欣慰，整体体验更加友好。我预感我们会反复回到这些场景，随着游戏进程它们很可能产生动态变化。

That was an overcorrection on their end from what happened with Dragon Age two, and they went a little too above and beyond, and I'm kind of glad they've reined it back in with the Vilegard, and it's something that feels much more accessible. And I have a feeling we're gonna be returning to these locations many times over and over again, and they're probably gonna be changing and shifting as the game progresses. Yeah. So

必须说参加活动时，我能感受到BioWare展现出的强烈自信。EA对这款游戏也信心十足——我们在现场停留了异常长的时间。通常试玩活动就两小时左右，接着采访完就结束了，但这次完全不同。

I have to say that going to the event, I felt like Bioware, they're very they feel very confident. EA feels very confident about the game too, because we were there for so long. I was like, I've never been to an event to have hands off for that long. Because usually it's like, you play for a couple hours, and then you you do your interviews, and you move on.

我该开场就说的：这游戏他妈太棒了！我本该第一句话就甩出这个结论。

Should've started off with it. The game's fucking incredible. Like, I should've just, like, led it with that.

天啊...我们默认你是喜欢的，否则早该听到吐槽了。我这边有Danny的实机片段，可以趁你们聊天时同步播放。

This is this is jeez. I think we assume that you liked it because otherwise, we would've heard about it maybe earlier. And I do have some of Danny's gameplay here that I can Okay. Put up as well while you guys are chatting.

没错，这段很精彩。这是Weisshop要塞——灰袍守卫者的总部，也是我们试玩中会反复造访的场景之一。

Yeah. So this is exciting. So this is, again, one of those locations. This is Weisshop Fortress. This is the headquarter of the Grey Wardens.

Danny，对我来说在这里所有战斗经验突然融会贯通。我化身成所向披靡的猛兽——以战士职业为例（不深入机制），攻击敌人积累怒气值来释放技能。底部快捷栏的UI设计比较复杂：四个主角技能槽，每个队友三个槽位，冷却结束就能实时发动。

And this was for me, Danny, I think when all the combat experience we had gained throughout the entire demo really clicked in. And I was just I felt like a badass. I felt like an unstoppable beast. So with the warrior, I won't go too much in the weeds with this, but essentially you gain rage by attacking enemies and you need rage to use abilities. So the UI is kind of complicated to describe, but on the bottom you have a bunch of quick slots.

当战况激烈时，可以调出指令轮盘——他们官方怎么称呼这个来着？

You have four for you. You have three for each of your companions, and you can use those real time as you would like, as you you know, as the skills cool down and you gain enough rage, go ahead, go on with your bad self. But if things get a little too intense, you can bring up the build the command wheel. What are they actually calling it? It has a name they're calling it.

具体名称我不确定，但我知道有两种操作方式：一种是调出完整角色/队友控制界面，另一种更快捷的方式是我在试玩尾声才发现的——无需展开轮盘就能操作。

Yeah. So I don't know the name of, but I know there was two options where I could bring it bring up the that option or, like, the whole screen for for my controls for my character and also for my companions. But I know there is another way where it's like a quicker way, but I just found that out at the end of the demo that you could actually do it without bringing that wheel up.

不会吧Danny？真的假的？

Oh, Danny. No. Really?

是啊。我之前不知道。完全没意识到。直到快结束的时候才发现，哦，

Yeah. I didn't know. I had no idea. I just found this out like towards the end of the Oh,

天真的孩子。不。是的。你可以长按LT或LB键。就是顶部那些可以长按的按钮之一，这样就能调出那些快捷指令。

sweet summer child. No. Yes. You hold think it's LT or it's LB. It's it's one of the the buttons on the top that you can hold, and then that allows you to access those quick those quick buttons.

你有选择权是好事。没错。选择让你感到舒适的方式就行。

You have options. That's a good thing. You have options. Yeah. The way whatever makes you feel comfortable, go with that.

那个指令轮盘——我就这么叫它——我也超爱调出来用，尤其在激烈战斗中，因为这时你能暂停整个战局，一眼看清局势。队友们还会根据组合不同使出酷炫连招，对吧？嗯哼。

And the command wheel, that's just what I'm gonna call it. I I love pulling that up too, especially if you're in intense situation because that's when you can really kinda at a glance look and see what's going on because it pauses the entire battle. And your party members, and this is really fun too, depending on who you have, they have different combos. Right? So Mhmm.

比如我最爱带达文和哈丁。达文是灰卫战士，哈丁是弓箭手盗贼。他俩有个超帅的组合技，能眩晕敌人造成大量硬直，在YouTube上看到那个区域后期难缠的战斗中特别管用。

For example, my favorite two party members to bring with me were Davern and Harding. Davern's the Grey Warden warrior. Harding is the archer. Rogue and I love her, but she and him had this really cool beefy combo attack that would stun enemies and create a lot of stagger. So that was really helpful, especially as those fights got a little hairy there towards the end of that that area that we're looking at on on YouTube.

战斗系统实在太棒了。作为战士我能投掷回旋盾、从高处跳劈、把敌人踹下悬崖，那种血脉偾张的感觉让我爱不释手，是我玩过最爽的战士体验。听说丹尼也盛赞法师职业很有趣。

But that was really great. I loved the combat so so much. It was so visceral and engaging and the things I could do as a warrior, I could throw my shield and it would come back to me. I could jump off ledges and stab shit from above. I could kick dudes off ledges.

真的又刺激又痛快。虽然我通常喜欢近战，但后来发现法师玩着也很顺手。不过有件事忘了说——我精心创建的角色因为存档覆盖被重置了，每次回来都变成不同人，但始终都是法师。

Like, it was so good and so heart pounding and I loved it. It's some of my favorite warrior gameplay. I've heard also Danny, really good things about mage. I heard mage was really fun.

对。虽然我通常喜欢近身战斗，但后来法师也玩得挺顺手。而且忘了说，我创建角色花了好久，结果存档被覆盖了，每次回来角色都变样。

Yeah. I usually I like to fight close combat, but yeah, I really got comfortable playing mage after a while. And here's the thing, and I forgot to mention this, you know, I created my character, took my time, but then they already have like save files, so they had to like change it for like different sections. My character got erased. I'm like, no.

不过始终都是法师。始终都是法师。始终都是法师。

So every time I'll come back, I had a totally different character. Yeah. But anyway, was still it was still mage. It was still mage. It was still mage.

但远程攻击确实很酷。有个技能能把敌人吸到一块儿再集体打击，这个能力帮我突破了好几个卡关的BOSS战。

But, yeah, I I it was pretty cool finding from, like, from, like, you know, a little bit far away from from the enemies. There's one where there's one power, one ability where you could suck all the enemies into like one section, and from there, I I could also do it like an attack. That was a very helpful ability for me to to like continue the game. Because there were some parts I was like stuck playing, like, some against some, like, some bosses and stuff. Yeah.

因为游戏里有时候真的会变得特别混乱，老兄。布瑞特，我不知道你有没有几次被卡住，就是在使用你的——

Because it was like it could get really chaotic in there, man, in the game. I don't know if you got stuck a couple times, Britt, with with using your

你的职业。该死的专业，丹尼。

your class. Damn professional, Danny.

我...哦，好吧，抱歉。对不起。我只是——

I Oh, well, sorry. Sorry. Was just

我没事。别担心我。

I was fine. Don't worry about me.

好吧。其实我有几次被卡住了。

Okay. Well, I got I got stuck a couple times.

不。确实有...我确实遇到过，不过这没关系。谢谢你这么说。关键在于你无法直接操控队友角色。你可以给他们下达指令，比如使用这个技能、那个技能或连招，但不像其他游戏那样能完全控制他们。

No. There were I I did have and this is okay. Thank you for saying that. So here's the kind of the catch is you can't control your party members. You can issue them commands like use this skill, use that skill, use that combo, but you can't control them in the way that you could in other games.

所以实际情况是...说实话我不知道他们有多大帮助。虽然他们确实有连招什么的，但他们基本上无限血量，就在战场上到处跑着打打杀杀，随心所欲地活着。这就是我被卡住的地方——当时我去做了个支线任务，要打一个超级超级难的boss。

And so what happens is, I mean, I don't know honestly how helpful they are. Obviously, have combos and whatnot, but they just kind of have infinite health and they just kind of like run around and do stuff and whatever. They live their best life. And this is where I did get stuck. I went off and did a side mission and I had to fight a very, very difficult, difficult, difficult boss.

我根本不可能活着离开那场战斗。重点是——

And there's no way I was getting out of the encounter alive. The point

是在森林里吗？是那片森林？

Was that to the forest? Was that the forest?

不是。那是我们后来再次回到另一座城市时的事。

No. This was when we returned to another city another time.

好的。嗯。嗯。

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

是啊，而且太残酷了。我当时觉得自己要死了，要变成蠕虫的饲料了。所以我举了手，必须有人把我救出去，带到下一个区域。

Yeah. And it was brutal. I was I was gonna die. I was gonna become worm fodder. So I had, like, raised my hand and someone had to get me out of there and get me to the next section.

总之，关键是我很固执。我坚持了二十分钟，心想：我得停下，血条都快见底了。但我耍了个小聪明——像个疯女人一样绕圈跑，让队友吸引BOSS仇恨。

Anyway, the point being, I mean, I I was stubborn. I was I was on it for, twenty minutes. I'm like, I need to stop. The health bar has knocked on down. But what I did, and this is, you know, kind of how I cheese it, is I just ran around like a mad woman in circles while my party members just kinda drew aggro on the boss.

然后我就等着技能冷却恢复，能力充能完毕。用个技能就立刻像怂包一样逃跑，这样反复搞了二十分钟。所以这种取巧打法也行，就是苦了队友——他们成了替罪羊，不过反正没事。

And then I would just wait for my specials to refill and get my abilities to recharge. And then I would go use my ability, and then I would run away like a little bitch, and I would just do that for, like, twenty minutes. So, I mean, I guess that is one thing you can do is you can cheese. You you can cheese that way with your poor party members. They are your sacrificial lambs, but it was fine.

其实不操控他们反而省心，战斗实在太激烈太混乱了。自己都顾不过来，根本没法想象还要完全操控另一个队友。

I mean, I didn't mind I didn't mind not controlling them because as we saw the combat is so intense and so hectic and so hands on. I cannot imagine trying to control another party member fully while you're trying to manage your own shit.

嗯。

Yeah.

但《审判》里那个战术模式...就是那种上帝视角，可以稍微拉远镜头...

But what what they had in Inquisition was that more tactical tactical mode, mode, that that kind kind of of god god mode mode where where you you could could kind of zoom everything back a little bit.

唔。

Mhmm.

所以你是说这作连这个选项都没有？

So you're saying that that's not even an option here either?

对，不能拉远镜头搞战术操作。只能调出战斗轮盘，在队友可行时下达指令，告诉他们连招或攻击目标。这就是进化...呃...

No. You can't zoom out and do that kind of tactical stuff. All you can do is pull up your little combat wheel, whatnot, and then you can issue commands to your companions when they're when they can or tell them what combos to do. Tell them which enemies to attack, but that's the evolution Yeah. Of

是啊。好吧。但你知道吗？

Yeah. Okay. But you know what?

其实我对此挺接受的，因为尽管我很喜欢在《最终幻想7重生》这类游戏中切换队友的设定，但我并不常这么做，除非某个角色倒下或需要特定技能。实际上我更倾向于不需要管理太多东西。当然肯定会有人不满意，但有时候必须做出取舍。没错。

I'm actually okay with that because as much as I loved the idea of being able to switch between party members in a game like Final Fantasy seven Rebirth, I didn't do it that often unless one of my, you know, characters went got downed or needed a specific ability. But I would actually prefer to not have that many things to manage. And I'm sure that there's going to be people who are not happy about that, but sometimes you gotta make sacrifices. Yeah.

我觉得确实存在这种情况。是的。

I think there are. Yeah.

那个 那个

That that

只是我认为这是个明智之举。真的，特别是如果你想吸引新玩家首次尝试《龙腾世纪》。我觉得这是正确方向。因为像那样复杂的操作，安德烈娅，我认为会让事情变得复杂，让人不知所措。

just I think this is a great move. Yeah. Honestly, especially especially if you wanna bring a new a new audience that they're gonna try out Dragon Age for the first time. I think this was the the right move. Because like that, Andrea, I think that will complicate things and people will get overwhelmed.

就像，那样会显得太过头了。我特别喜欢不需要操控队友的设定。你可以给他们分配技能之类的，但AI表现很棒。不像有些游戏里队友会卡在原地发呆。

Like, this will be, like, too just too much. And I just love that you don't have to control your companions. You you know, you could give them, like, the powers and all that stuff. But, yeah, I think the AI was great. Like, it wasn't it wasn't like sometimes you have, like, some companions who just stay there and stuck.

在这款游戏里我完全没感受到那种情况。

I didn't get that vibe at all playing this game.

我也没有。而且玩试玩版时，你会忍不住想尽快上手。如果我停下来仔细研究那个技能轮盘，可能会发现更多可操作内容。不过说实话，我就用基础操作也玩得很顺畅，纯粹是在大杀四方啊朋友们。

I didn't either. And also, you know, when you're playing these demos, you kinda feel compelled to just get good enough to where you can just play it. I'm sure, you know, if I were to stop and really look at that ability wheel, there might be even other things that I've I missed that you can do. But, yeah, I mean, I was able to get by just fine doing what I was doing. It was just kicking ass and taking names, friends.

战斗系统太棒了。满分十分。这大概是——

It was I love the combat. 10 out of 10. I think this is probably

最大的改进点。我在《龙腾世纪》官方YouTube的战斗视频里看到有引信和引爆器的设定，这是生软在《质量效应》系列和前作《龙腾世纪》中的标志性设计。实际玩起来感觉如何？因为那曾是我在《质量效应》中最喜欢的团队配合部分。

its biggest improvement. I saw in the combat video from the Dragon Age YouTube that I was playing that there's primers and detonators, which is a hallmark of Bioware combat that we've seen in the Mass Effect series and of course in Dragon Age before. How was it playing with those? Because that was one of my favorite parts about playing with my teammates in Mass Effect combat.

那很酷。是的。后来就变成那样了，我甚至不知道我是怎么做到的，说实话。但我知道的就是我会

It was cool. Yeah. There would become and I don't even know how I did them, I mean, totally honest. But I all I knew is I would

会有一个社区共享表格

there will be a community spreadsheet

哦，是的。

Oh, yeah.

游戏发布时肯定会有，里面包含了所有起爆器和引爆器的说明，以及它们如何协同工作。

On launch of the game, I'm sure, that has all of the primers and all of the detonators on how they work together.

最开始几次我完全搞不懂队友在干嘛。我还以为他们嗨大了还是怎么的，因为他们会说，好了，我控制住他了，看你的了。而我还在像个无头苍蝇一样乱转，分不清东南西北

It was the first couple times I didn't know what the fuck my party members were on. I thought they were tripping balls or something because they're like, okay. I got him. It's up to you. And I'm just running around still trying to figure out my ass from a hole and

他们接着说

they go

哦，因为那意味着他们已经帮你把目标控制住了。

Oh, because that means that they've primed him for you.

对吧？等我搞明白后，敌人会被短暂眩晕，这时你可以走过去按个键，使出超帅的引爆连招。然后显然会造成巨额伤害。虽然我不确定具体怎么触发的，但我确实做到了。而且成功了好几次，每次都很兴奋。

Right? Then once I figured it out, you know, the enemies are briefly stunned, then you can walk over to them, push a button, and do a really cool amazing detonator move. And then obviously, like, amazing damage is dealt. But, yeah, like, I don't know how I did it necessarily, but I did it. And I did it a few times, and it was very exciting when I did.

布里特，我正想问你，你觉得对话系统怎么样？我觉得还挺不错的。

Britt, I was gonna ask you what what are your thoughts about the the dialogue? I think it was it was pretty pretty good.

什么对话啊丹尼？天哪。

What kind of dialogue, Danny? Mean, god.

不。只是就像同伴之间以及同伴与你角色之间的互动那样。就在场面变得混乱时，

No. Just just like the interaction between the companions and the companions and your character. Just when it gets chaotic,

像是你让哦哦，你是指在战斗中吗？

like You're let oh oh, you mean in combat?

在战斗中。对。战斗或者或甚至是战斗时我

In combat. Yeah. Combat or or or combat or even I

当时就觉得，这要往某个方向发展了，我不确定自己是否准备好迎接这个走向

was like, this is gonna go somewhere, and I'm not sure if I'm prepared for where this is

的发展。

gonna go.

你要带我去卧室了。我啊，宝贝。

You're gonna take me in the bedroom. Me, baby.

或者是我。哦，对。在卧室里。

Or me. Oh, yeah. In the bedroom.

好吧。这没问题。是的。我爱战斗。我喜欢那些拌嘴。

Okay. This is okay. Yeah. Love the combat. I love the banter.

它从未困扰过我。挺好的。就像，我甚至没想过战斗中的那些对话。你知道，有时候会提到像是，哦不。她无敌了之类的，而且感觉并不做作或重复过度。

It never bothered me. It was fine. Like, I didn't even think about the the dialogue during the combat. You know, sometimes there'll be mentions of like, oh, no. She's invulnerable or and it's it doesn't feel overdone or over repeated.

不像在某些JRPG里，你会听到有人不停地说，哦，暴击。哦，暴击，一遍又一遍，让你想抓狂。我从未有过那种感觉。但其他对话，这正是我非常喜爱的一点，而且我希望能看到更多，就是那些闲谈。我感觉这次有更多的闲谈，这是BioWare游戏和《龙腾世纪》系列的标志性特色之一，显然，当你四处走动时，你会看到一些东西，比如地上有辆破马车。

It's not like in, you know, JRPGs where you get someone saying like, oh, critical hit. Oh, critical hit over and over again, and you wanna pull your hair out. I never got that. But the other dialogue, and this is something I just loved so much, and I hope we see more of it, is there's just banter. There's a lot more banter, I feel like, this time around, and it's one of the staples of Bioware games and and Dragon Age games too as well, obviously, where you'll just be walking around and you'll see something, maybe a broken wagon on the ground.

但根据你携带的队友不同，他们之间会产生有趣的斗嘴。带那些相处不太融洽或化学反应奇特的队友同行总是充满乐趣，看着他们争执或讨论某些事情。所以我特别高兴看到游戏中存在大量这类互动，因为从不会让人觉得空洞或冷场。这一点我简直爱死了。再说一次，我们真得好好聊聊这些该死的同伴们。

But depending on who you have with you, there's going to be banter between them. And it's always fun to bring party members along who maybe don't get along so well or maybe have some interesting chemistry and kind of watch them bicker or talk about something. So I thought that that made me really happy to see that there's a lot of that banter because it never really felt empty or quiet. Loved that so, so much. Again, like, we need to talk about the fucking companions.

我太爱这些同伴了。显然，鲁克不可能独自拯救世界。你身边会聚集形形色色的角色——有库纳里人，有精灵，

I love the companions. Obviously, Rook is not saving this world on their own. You have a whole bunch of gaggle of different characters with you. You have Kunari. You have elves.

有矮人，应有尽有。所有人都想成为你的朋友，帮你拯救帷幔，因为你是帷幔之神。同伴系统的精妙之处在于，就像《审判庭》和《起源》那样，你拥有一个总部。这次的总部叫做灯塔。

You have dwarves. You have everybody. Everyone wants to be your friend and help you save the Veil because you are the Veil god. So what's interesting about the companions is, as with the Inquisition and Origins and everywhere, you have an HQ. And this time the HQ is called the Lighthouse.

这个神秘而强大的场所与帷幔之地及你的使命息息相关。你会在任务间隙回到这里，或是需要处理某些事务——因为这里有大量可互动内容。再次声明我尽量不剧透。你会在宿舍区找到同伴们，随着游戏进程推进，你会看到他们逐渐装饰自己的房间。

And this is a mysterious and powerful place, and it's very, very integral to the Vilegard and your mission. And this is where you're going to go between missions or between objectives or if you just need to do something there because there's a bunch of stuff you can do while you're there. Again, trying to keep this very vague. You're going to find your companions in their quarters. And as you play the game, the game progresses, you're going to see them decorate their quarters more.

整座灯塔会变得越来越精致。你能目睹同伴们私下交谈，可以偷听对话，甚至通过交谈触发支线任务。本作中与同伴的互动内容异常丰富，真的非常有趣。

Entire lighthouse is going become more decorated. You're going to see companions having one on one conversations. You're gonna be able to eavesdrop on them. You're gonna be able to actually, like, initiate side missions by talking to your companions. So there's just a lot that you can do with them this time around, and this is really fun.

如果你不和某个同伴发展恋情...他们可能会自己搞在一起。我不是说那种自我安慰，我是说他们真的会...

If you don't romance a certain companion or whatever, they're gonna romance themselves. Like, I mean, not like not like whack their pack. I mean, they're gonna, like, literally, like,

比如其中一个会...其中一个

one of them's gonna like, one of them's

主动追求另一个。虽然不确定具体配对，但确实能看到同伴们擦出火花。这让我想起《审判》里的多瑞安和铁牛。这种设定太棒了，我超爱。感觉就像'哦豁，现在有竞争对手了'。

gonna seek out another one. I don't know what the pairing is, but, yeah, you're gonna see your companions hook up. Kinda reminds me of Dorian and Iron Bull in Inquisition. But that's just, you know, that's so cool, and I love that. So it's just kinda like, oh, there's some competition here.

谁敢碰我的男人我就揍扁谁。我确实问过能否破坏游戏中的其他角色关系——毕竟我很好奇这点。比如说贝拉娜正在和达文谈恋爱，而我想得到达文，能不能拆散他们？得到的答复是：有时角色会来征求建议，但你不必总是给出最佳建议。

Don't you try to touch my man and kick your ass, people. I did ask you if you can sabotage other character relationships in the game because I'm very curious about that. So let's say, like, Belara is, you know, romancing Davern and I want Davern. Can I, like, split them up? And the answer I got was, you know, sometimes people will come to you for advice but you don't always have to give them the best advice.

我说：好吧。所以我

I said, okay. So I

可以算是个暗示。

can be That's a hint.

我能

I can

很混乱。

be messy.

是啊。我就想混乱点。反正我现在满脑子都是《爱情岛》和《龙腾世纪》。

Yeah. I I wanna be messy. Anyway, I'm just Love Island and Dragon Age.

对，基本上就是这样。

Yeah. Basically. Yeah.

没错。我是说，但这就是人们对BioWare游戏的期待，对吧？我觉得大家认为这是工作室的招牌特色。

Yes. Yeah. I mean, but that's what people want from a Bioware game. Right? That I think people feel like that's what the studio is known for.

而我们在《圣歌》里并没有真正得到这些，对吧？

And we didn't really get that in Anthem. Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

所以

So

他们其实没真正理解《圣歌》。

They didn't really get Anthem.

我正在回想我们上次遇到的真实案例。嗯。我想那应该是

I'm trying to think of the last real example that we got. Mhmm. And I guess it would

《审判》？

be Inquisition?

但你不能...《仙女座》不算。我记不清那游戏里

But you can't you couldn't really Andromeda. I can't remember what happened

发生了什么。是啊，太久远了。我不记得了。不过布拉德，我正想问你，你知道和角色对话时，根据选项不同，同伴会显示「赞同」或「反对」。

in that game. Yeah. It's been so long. I don't remember. But, Brad, was gonna ask you, like, I know when you have conversation with people depending on what you select, you notice too, like, companion will say approve approve this or disapprove this.

很奇怪对吧？你遇到很多这种情况吗？比如同伴会对你某些言行表示反对？

So strange. Was that a that a lot happening for you? Like, your companion did disapprove with, like, certain things that you were, like, saying or answering about?

没错。这正是其精妙之处。不是所有人都会认同每件事，对吧？每个角色都有自己的目标、动机，甚至参与你行动的隐秘理由。

Yeah. And I mean, that's the that's the beauty. Right? Beauty is not everyone is going to agree with everything, right? Every character has their own goals and motivations and probably their own secret reasons for being involved in what you're doing.

所以没有能让所有人满意的决定。比如在威斯霍普要塞，你和第一守望者对话时有两个选择：和平解决或武力镇压。不同选择会引发大量「强烈反对」或「热烈赞同」。这就是游戏常态。

And so there's no decision you can make that's gonna please everybody. So an example of this is we are at Weisshopped Fortress and you have the first warden and you're talking to him and there's one of two decisions you can make. You can either do things nicely or you can do things physically. And depending on what you get, you're gonna get a lot of greatly disapproves or greatly approves. And I mean, and that's just kind of par for the course.

我更感兴趣的是如何安抚反对者。感觉以前从没这样过——不可能让所有人都喜欢你，虽然我想走万人迷路线。我猜应该有些支线任务能做，或者像前作那样通过送礼提升好感度...

Right? I guess where I would be more interested in is what can you do to alleviate those who disapproves or you and I I feel like it's never been like this. I can't imagine there's just no way everyone's gonna love you because I wanna play in a way that everyone's gonna love me. So I'm imagining there's probably some side stuff you can do or maybe in the last prior games we've seen that you can give companions gifts to raise their affection towards you because you know,

就像现实生活。送人

just like real life. Give a

一盒巧克力就能赢得芳心。这就是游戏的一部分。真正让我兴奋的是见证选择与后果如何展开——毕竟《质量效应》的结局已经证明这些决策的分量有多重。

person a box of chocolates and I love you. So yeah, so I mean, that's just part of it, right? And that's the thing that I'm really excited about is seeing the choice and the consequence and how is that really going to play out? Obviously, you know, there's a lot riding on this. We've seen what happened with mass effect when it came to choice and consequence and what the ultimate resolution was for some of those decisions.

显然，人们对这一点非常、非常不满意。我们确实看到了一些相当令人印象深刻的选择或情境，其中选择和后果得到了体现。比如游戏开始时，瓦里克试图与索拉斯交谈的场景，对吧？到了某个节点，你可以选择带哈丁或内芙同行。

Obviously, people weren't very, very happy with that. We did get to see a few pretty impressive options or situations where choice and consequence played out. So the one thing we've all seen is in the beginning of the game where Varic is trying to talk to Solas. Right? And there comes a point where you can either bring Harding or Nev with you.

根据你带谁同行，那个人的脸最终很可能会变得淤青、肿胀、开裂、血迹斑斑——天知道要持续多久。但当我带着内芙同行后去和她交谈时，发现她的脸被打得稀巴烂，我简直惊呆了。我心想：你这是怎么了？然后才反应过来：哦，是我带你去的。正因如此，你现在痛苦不堪。

Depending on who you bring with you, that person's face is probably ultimately going to end up bruised, beaten, split, bloody for I don't know how long. But imagine my surprise when I went to go and talk to Neve because I brought her along with me and her face is all fucking beat to shit. And I'm like, what happened to you? And I'm like, oh, I brought you with me. And because of that, you are in pain.

你看起来就像刚被卡车碾过一样。在后续的过场动画里，她疼得直咧嘴，状态差到我不得不命令她留在后方执行任务。这只是选择与后果的一个小例子。而重大案例——我们必须说得很模糊——是有个时刻（这个我们没能录到）需要你在两座城市中拯救其一。

You look like you just got run over by a truck. And in future cut scenes, you know, she was wincing in pain and she wasn't, you know, she wasn't up to snuff to the point where I actually told her she needed to stay back on a on a mission. So that's just kind of a minor example of the the choice and consequence. A major example, and we have to be very vague about this, is there was an option. There was a time, and this is something we couldn't capture, where you had to save one of two cities.

有两座主要城市，由于正在遭受某种袭击，你只能拯救其中一座。这两座城市分别与两位不同的同伴紧密关联。懂了吧？所以就像：好吧，我有两个选择。

There's two major cities and you can only save one of them because of a certain attack that's going on. And these cities are both closely tied with two different companions. Right? So you can see where this is going. So it's like, okay, I have two options.

我该选哪个？我准备好面对另一个角色的怒火了吗？因为我知道他们绝对会气疯的。丹尼，对你来说可能简单些，毕竟你不像我这样对《龙腾世纪》的设定了如指掌。

Which one am I gonna pick? And do I wanna face the wrath of this other character? Because I know they're gonna be freaking pissed at me. So I don't know, Danny, it was probably a little easier for you because I know you you're not an an you know, you don't know Dragon Age lore like the back of your hand. I do.

我这个死宅在试玩台前真的列了个表格，写下拯救每座城市的利弊——这两座城市都有极其丰富的背景设定，让我压力山大，到现在还耿耿于怀。选择之后，你还能返回去亲眼目睹因你决策而造成的彻底毁灭。没错，就是这种体验。

Big fucking nerd over here. But I sat at my demo station and I literally wrote down reasons, pros and cons to saving either city because both cities have such a fucking extensive lore and both of them it was very stressful. I'm still stressed out about it. And then after you choose your city or your whatever city, you have the opportunity to go back and see the utter destruction of what happened because of your decision. And it's it's gonna Yep.

整个游戏过程都会是这样。

It's gonna be like that throughout your game.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以，该死的，这就是大家期待的。没错。这就是——

So, like, damn, this is what people came for. Yes. This is what

人们想要的。就是这样。这就是他们

people want. It is. This is it. This is what they

想要。我知道。

want. I know.

听起来他们像是火力全开。

So it sounds like they're, like, they're firing on all cylinders.

我打赌那些角色对你的决定很不满。

And the characters, I bet, wasn't happy about your decision.

噢不。我很难过。我共情能力太强了，这简直是我最大的诅咒，连他妈的游戏里都这样。我玩的时候全程龇牙咧嘴。

Oh, no. And I I feel bad. Like, I'm such an empath. Like, even in fucking video games, this is my biggest curse. So I'm, like, playing this and I'm just wincing.

我都不敢看。没错，我被训了。但你说得对，安德莉亚，这就是观众想要的。

I can't even look. And, yeah, I got scolded. But no. Like, you're right, Andrea. This is what people want.

而且这还只是第一幕刚开始，我甚至觉得第一幕高潮都没到。如果现在就要面对这种抉择，我根本不敢想象结局时的选择会有多残酷。懂吗？我感觉他们准备用我们的...

And this is just, again, like, the first act. This isn't I don't even think this was, like, towards the end of the first act. So it just goes to show you if this is what we're facing already, don't I even wanna know what those decisions are gonna get like towards the end. You know? I have a feeling they're gonna just kill us with our

会...

it's gonna

抉择来虐我们。

be decision. Back, baby.

我知道。这就是我的预感。BioWare的《龙腾世纪》团队现在处境艰难。毕竟《审判》都快十年了。

I know. And that's kind of the the vibe I got. And Bioware's in a very, like, tough decision, the Dragon Age team. Right? It's been almost ten years since Inquisition.

游戏市场变了，这个系列从《起源》到《2》再到《审判》经历了巨大演变。每个喜爱《龙腾世纪》的人都有不同理由，它对不同群体意义非凡。要怎么满足所有玩家？怎么做出一款人见人爱的游戏？

The game has changed the the series has changed and evolved so much from Origins to two to Inquisition. And I feel like everyone who loves Dragon Age loves it because of different reasons, because it can mean so much to so many different people. So how do you appease that audience? Right? How do you make a game that everyone's gonna love?

就像剧透一样，你不会知道。你知道，原版中有些东西可能会被玩家怀念，比如战术轮盘或者开放世界元素。但根据我试玩的体验，他们保留了《龙腾世纪》最精华的部分。让《龙腾世纪》之所以成为《龙腾世纪》的核心要素都在这里，他们还恰到好处地加入了现代元素。我第一个想到的就是战斗系统。

And like spoilers, you don't. You know, there's gonna be stuff that people miss from the original, like the tactical wheel or maybe the open world stuff. But I feel like just from what I've played, they're keeping the best parts of Dragon Age in this game. What makes Dragon Age feel like Dragon Age is here, they're adding the right modern touches. I think the first one that comes to mind is the combat.

我实在太爱这个战斗系统了。是的，我非常非常乐观，也满怀希望——这就是我们一直期待的游戏，就是我们梦寐以求的作品。尽管这些年来我们听到了各种传言，开发过程起起落落，人员变动等等。我简直想大喊：天啊他们真的成功了吗？当然，七个小时的《龙腾世纪》体验只是浅尝辄止。

I love the combat so, so much. Yeah, I'm very, very optimistic and I'm very hopeful that this is the game that we've been wanting and this is the game that we've been hoping for. Despite all of the rumors we've heard over the years, the turbulent starts and stops and the hires and everything. I wanna be like, oh my God, did they actually pull it off? Obviously seven hours in a Dragon Age game, you're just scratching the surface.

但就我目前所见，这次可能真的成了。

But from what I've seen, this could be it.

我们都希望不会重蹈覆辙。不，你懂的，希望最终不会陷入那些争议中

Which we all hope is not the case No. That, you know, that this isn't going to be in those discussions at the end

通过与开发团队成员交流得知，游戏其实早已完成。所以最后这几个月都是在打磨、修复漏洞，因为他们显然不想重演上次的悲剧。我在试玩中没遇到任何错误。

of From talking to members of the team too, the game has been done for a while. So these final, like, months have just been polishing and bug squishing and everything because they don't want what happened, obviously, last time. Didn't come across any errors in my game.

我也是。

Same.

我也是。这是个非常好的兆头。

So Same. That bodes very well.

而且通过了Steam Deck验证。哟。别错过这个。太棒了。特别是特别是现在，你知道的，我们忙着照顾宝宝。

And also also Steam Deck verified. Yo. Don't get that. Let's go. Especially especially when, you know, we're busy with Baby.

我可以随时用手持设备玩《龙腾世纪》了。

I could just play Dragon Edge on the side, you know, with a little handheld.

我等不及了。我想和游戏里每个角色都来一发。这太糟糕了。我是说，该死。

I can't wait. And I wanna fuck everyone in the game. It's so bad. Mean, like Damn.

丹尼，我已经选好我的了。是谁？那个老家伙。

Danny, like I already have mine picked out. Who is it? The old dude.

哦，埃默里奇。埃默里奇？对吧？

Oh, Emmerich. Emmerich? Right?

那个死灵法师？哦，对。

The necromancer? Oh, yeah.

老兄，他有他的小骷髅朋友。他叫曼弗雷德。他叫什么名字？是威尔弗雷德之类的吗？不对。

Dude, he has his little skeleton friend. His name's Manfred. What's his name? It's it's something Wilfred? No.

是个很有趣的名字。曼弗雷德？曼弗雷德？我得去谷歌一下。总之你可以和他玩石头剪刀布。

It's something really fun. Manfred? Manfred? I I'll have to Google it. Anyway, you can play rock paper scissors with him.

他是个骷髅朋友。我玩了大概五分钟还赢了，感觉超棒。但就是这些小细节，既有严肃又有搞笑。这就是主题所在。对了安德鲁，接着说你的观点，完全可能是高迪。

He was a skeleton friend. And I did for like five minutes and I won and it was great. But like little things like little touches like that where you have the serious and you have the silly. Again, it's that that theme and, yeah, Andrew, go back to what you're saying. Totally could be Godey.

我想先完整玩一遍确保不会出问题。虽然我觉得不太可能，但我要在《无限财富》和《龙腾世纪》之间做选择，这人生啊！懂我意思吗？我也不知道。该死。

You know, I wanna play the whole thing first and make sure, like, something just doesn't go wrong. Not that I imagine it will, but, like, I'm gonna be should look in between infinite wealth and Dragon Age and, like, what is my life? You know? I don't know. Damn.

这样的人生很美好。再说一次，今年我是天选之子。我也没办法，这就是

It's a good life to live. Again, I am God's chosen this year. I just can't help it. It's just the way

命。接受吧。非常感谢这次精彩的深度探讨，我现在超期待玩这个游戏。

it is. Embrace. Embrace it. Well, thank you very much for the incredible deep dive. I am hyped to play this game.

等不及了。我其实有点嫉妒没能参加预览活动，但也很庆幸能第一次体验最终版本——这是评测面临的几个挑战之一，不过这种烦恼多奢侈啊，能在游戏发售前抢先体验。虽然不想显得矫情，但当你需要评估游戏时确实很困难。之后还得重玩所有剧情内容，试图用新鲜视角看待，这真的...挺不容易的。

I can't wait. I was secretly a little jealous that I didn't go to the preview event, but also secretly very glad that I get to play it all for first time once the final build is out because that's the one of I guess several challenges, but like oh what a problem to have, I got to play a game I'm excited about before it came out. I don't want this to sound like that kind of but it's challenging when you have to evaluate a game Yes. And then you have to play all of that narrative content again and try to, you know, see it with fresh eyes. It's it's it can be it can be difficult.

所以是的，双刃剑，可以这么说。

So Yes. Double edged sword, so to

没错。你可以纯粹享受它。只管玩，享受游戏本身，这真的很棒。而我呢，我他妈记了整整12页笔记。

speak. Yeah. And you get to just enjoy it. You just get to play it and enjoy it for what it is, and that's really cool too. Me, I have 12 fucking pages of notes.

我一直...天啊。我爱死它了。显然我很爱，但我也在想，老天，真高兴终于搞定了，现在我可以期待好好玩游戏了。

I have been oh my god. I love it. I love it, obviously, but I'm like, man, I'm glad that this is done, and now I can just look forward to playing the game.

好吧，布里特，最后一个问题。你打算在PC还是主机上玩？主机。绝对是主机。主机？

Well, Britt, my last question for you. Are you gonna play this PC, consoles? Console. Definitely console. Console?

绝对是主机。虽然我喜欢在PC上玩《龙腾世纪》系列——其实我前段时间刚在PC上重启了《起源》的流程。总之我是匕首党。

Definitely console. Yeah. It's I mean, I love playing Dragon Age games on my PC. That's just actually like, I restarted my Origins run on PC a while ago. Anyway, I'm Dagger.

对。丹尼，主机。主机。主机。主机。

Yes. Danny, console. Console. Console. Console.

主机。这样我就能瘫在我的舒适椅子上，裹着暖和的毯子彻底摆烂。我想烂在那儿。想让我的表皮和沙发皮革融为一体。

Console. So I can sit on my ass and my comfy ass chair with my comfy cozy blanket and just fester. I wanna fester. I want my epidermis to meld to the leather of my couch.

顺便提醒大家，我们玩的是PC版。

And I wanna mention to everybody, we we're playing the PC version.

用手柄玩的。

With controllers.

噢对。用手柄玩的。没错。

Of yeah. With controllers. Yep.

是啊。天哪。这还挺标准的。

Yeah. Oh my god. That's pretty standard.

我不能谈论这个也不会谈，但去他的背景故事和那些剧情发展。我的天。

And I can't talk about it and I won't, but fuck the lore and some of the story shit that goes down. Oh my god.

看来现在是插播广告的绝佳时机，各位。就

And that seems like a great time to say we're gonna take a quick break, everybody. That's

说到这儿吧。

all I can say.

广告回来后，会听到蕾哈娜开喷气机？什么？问号？别走开，马上回来。

When we come back, gonna hear Rihanna flying a jet? What? Question mark? Stick with us. We'll see you in a minute.

本期《What's Good Games》由Shopify赞助播出。当你想到那些销量爆表的品牌——比如Alo、Allbirds或Skims时，你当然会想到优质产品和病毒式营销。但常被忽视的成功秘诀，是那些让销售变简单的幕后商业平台。对数百万企业而言，这秘诀就是Shopify。没人比Shopify更懂销售。

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欢迎回到《What's Good Games》播客。接下来我们要聊更多精彩游戏内容——因为蕾哈娜不仅...她居然开了架喷气机！这到底怎么回事？我超想听这个故事。不过在此之前，我们要先感谢超级会员朋友们。我来开个头...

Welcome back to the What's Good Games podcast. This is where we talk about more cool things we've been playing because Rhea not only something, she actually flew a freaking jet, which is like, how the hell I'm very excited to hear that story. But before we do that, we have to give our final shout out to our supercast friends. And I'm gonna kick us off Yeah.

没错。感谢Tripsie Anne、Wall of Bill、Corinne Bensinger和David Stretchon。

We do. With Tripsie Anne. Wall of Bill. Corinne Bensinger. David Stretchon.

墨西哥卷饼。特伦特·彭宁顿。

Burrito. Trent Pennington.

我喜欢结尾的停顿，那很棒。

I like the pause at the end, that was good.

丹尼尔·赫尔。妮可·汉弗莱。詹姆斯·布拉沃。

Daniel Hull. Nicole Humphrey. James Bravo.

疯狂老鼠。Punktified。

Maniacal Mouse. Punktified.

格雷戈里·须贺野。

Gregory Sugano.

帕特里克，去洗你的衣服。

Patrick, do your laundry.

诺埃尔·纳瓦雷斯。欧米茄破坏者。杜威·里斯。罗伯特·弗莱默林。史蒂夫·弗伦奇。

Noel Navarrez. Omega Buster. Dewey Reese. Robert Freimering. Steve French.

加里·佩克。贾斯汀·福希。凯尔西·伯吉斯。约书亚·富兰克林。

Gary Peck. Justin Foshee. Kelsey Burgess. Joshua Franklin.

加布里埃尔·FL·奥利维亚。还有

Gabrielle FL Olivia. And

安德鲁·科顿。抱歉，瑞亚。我刚接管了你。

Andrew Cotton. Sorry, Rhea. I just took you over.